XPeng P7+ Driven - The First XPeng With Vision-only ADAS

[@lm3718]

I really like Inside China Auto (as well as Elliot Richard's channel) to find out what is happening in the Chinese EV scene - very enlightening.👏👏👏

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I very much appreciate having you here. Elliot is a good guy too, I like him, he's not prone to hyperbole.

[@MichelHenriTonneau]

Fully agree with you!

[@Thinkofwhat]

Me too. Reckon you can share his videos to your friends to help him grows his subscription numbers:)

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@Thinkofwhat That would be very kind of you. Thank you so much.

[@niklaswejedal463]

Unlike many other chinese saloon-cars (and their Tesla conuterparts) that look good but not that spectacular, this is actually really beautiful. Especially liking it from 3/4 view rear - very nice! And the interior looks equally good. I could not care less if it is a bit plastic-y - as long as it looks great, I'm happy. Having driven the P7 and found it to be one of the best and most fun to drive saloon-cars I've tried, I am very much looking forward to having a go in this one at some point in the future. Great video, despite the rush😉

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yeah, it's a good looking car this, feels very much like what the name suggests, a P7+, like a P7 but better.

[@BrianNedry]

Interesting car, seems like a good option for what you're getting overall, also like the ADAS light, should be on all vehicles driving autonomously. Love that it's a hatchback, enough interior space , massaging seats. The glass roof not having a motorized sunshade is a bit of a let down plus no HUD and frunk but I guess it's to keep cost of vehicle from being too high. Overall it's still impressive for that price, would like to see the charging curve for the battery's optioned with the P7+. Thanks for the review, whenever I see your notifications for new video's I always get so excited. 🥂

[@InsideChinaAuto]

So glad our new videos generate that reaction in some people. That put a smile on my face, thanks! And thanks for watching. As for the light, I fully agree, I think it's worth having, especially in these times where autonomous-capable cars make up only a small portion of the overall road fleet, but we do need to educate others on what the light means as many don't even notice or care.

[@EJFJ-Corporation]

There is no need of my 2 inventions, for the roof it does not need a sunshade as it is included inside the glass (99.8% UV protection) but no adaptation of color, no possibility to make it darker as others brands do. Users should request this to allow a certain percentage of Xpeng Motors being delivered with this option, which is just something luxury but not necessary. And my second unnecessary invention is the Head-Up Display which is not necessary as the Xpeng PM+ should be certified ADAS 4+, very soonly... HUD was invented by me and given to BMW Group and Philips and InFocus, through Christopher Edward Bangle in February 1994 and realized slowly from this date to appear in the early 1997 as far as I can remember... I am not good in reminding dates or names... But this is close to this ... Xpeng Motors cares of what is really benefitable, useful, and does not like to give too many informations to the users. Even good (correct) informations about the car are very difficult to get! These are the 2 models of the P7+ available now, but Xpeng Motors can create variants, very sporty if necessary, with soft 3.9 seconds from 0 to 100km/h and less plastics inside, for a much more correct price of around 40000 USD! This is a fantastic cheap car, which needs to be tested and rewarded by all...

[@enigmatum]

Great review. Just note that it’s a vision-centric not vision-only because it still has radars.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Sure, I probably should say vision-first.

[@ciybersal3499]

Good review. Your so lucky to experience all these developments in China. Car haven

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Very much so. I'd like more of the cars to be fun to drive, but certainly they're all super smart and well made and interesting in various ways.

[@Aomine_420]

Such an amazing car and this channel is amazing as well thanks for the updates

[@InsideChinaAuto]

So glad you like it. Thank you very much for being here, and for the comment.

[@STALLIAN-td2eg]

It's 4:26am 🇿🇦 just tuned in and I love this car from every angle❤

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Haha, I was up at 4:26am finishing the video. Not everything about being on KZbin is glamorous. Haha. Great to have you here.

[@vasm1807]

I love this design, very interesting and amazing boot space!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Ridiculous boot space. One of the biggest I've seen on a Chinese car, even an SUV and some MPVs.

[@nicholasriley3569]

Thx for the reviews. Always very interesting content.👏👏👏 As for the car - it looks great.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

You're welcome mate. Thanks for watching.

[@Bman1878]

My favourite car review channel. Thanks for another good video mate. Nice car too, the rear end sort of reminds me of a Renault Fuego GTA Max, which I quite like, my grandfather had a Fuego for a bit. First car I ever sat in with electric windows and air conditioning 😅

[@InsideChinaAuto]

So glad you like the channel mate. This is a lovely car, as was the Fuego. I got to meet one on a kind of Renault event with a former employer, they had an Alpine 310, Clio V6, R26 Megane, some others and a Fuego with the yellow spotlights they used to have. They have quite a passionate following it seems.

[@baltazarkosa29]

this version looks much better than the previous one, imho

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Much more lithe and dynamic this one. It's a bit of a looker.

[@deltajohnny]

Another really nice car and review!! 👏👏👏 It would be great if you could make a test of these new vision only ADAS vehicles in future videos, to see how they compare in the city to the more expensive systems 😉😉 We all would like to live in China as you do, as this is a unique moment in automotive history 😍😍😍

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I'm certainly lucky to live here with all these great cars and the advancements taking place. But yes, I'll certainly try to get an ADAS test with this model on the usual route.

[@deltajohnny]

​@@InsideChinaAuto 👏👏👏 I cannot believe that in the future we Europeans will be able to choose between these great vehicles, of course if prices do not go through the roof 🙈🙈🙈

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@deltajohnny Let's hope the EU sees sense sometime soon on tariffs.

[@deltajohnny]

​@@InsideChinaAuto Fingers crossed! 😅😅😁😁

[@Raymaster7482]

Interesting car... don't know if I like the design but what I like is the big boot - very practical!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It's bloody enormous that boot. Great if you've got a load of stuff to move.

[@johnharris4600]

Hi Mark. Yet another great car coming out of China, my goodness you're spoilt over there , if only I was 20 or 30 years younger , great car this have they got anything smaller, other than the Mona M03 ? So you're in Guangzhou ready for the big electric show. ? I'm not sure if it's possible because you do a long video on the electric car shows , I noticed your video on Chengdu was in 1080p not 4K is that because of data as 4k uses heaps of data? Regardless I can't wait for it. Regards John

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Hi John. Indeed, another lovely car this. They don't have any saloons smaller than the MONA, the smallest thing they have is the G3 but I don't know if they even sell any anymore, they certainly don't advertise it but it is available. Guangzhou Auto Show is coming up in November so less than two weeks and you'll get the video of that. 1080 is indeed because of data, in two ways actually. I accidentally recorded the first part of the Chengdu video in 4k and ran out of memory half way through and because I didn't have another empty card I had to do the rest in 1080 to fit on a used card. But also it takes all of time to upload a 4k file of that length to KZbin so i opt not to otherwise it might be too long after the event and I have to strike while it's hot. Ideally all my videos would be 4k because it looks nicer but not always possible sadly.

[@johnharris4600]

​@@InsideChinaAutoyes I thought because 4K uses heaps of data,. I'm so looking forward to your review of this show though, I wish I could have be there, I'm hoping I might be able to come to the Shanghai show in April, would love to catch up with you but we'll see. Regards John

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@johnharris4600 Definitely. I hope a bunch of my subscribers can come over to witness it for themselves. It's something else, really. I'd love to meet up with a bunch of you.

[@MichelHenriTonneau]

Good morning. Many thanks for this new video. A quiet interesting car Xpeng presents here. Wonder how these Chinese brands will be next in two , three years ahead. Most likely far more technology developments over engine and batteries. Won’t be at all surprised that the minimum range of 1000km and recharging in less than 10 minutes is waiting us all at the corner of 2027.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Very much so. I think charging is the real focus right now with impressive developments going on there. Can't imagine what three more years will bring, though i also expect at some point things will slow down once the rapid gains have dried up. Like with mobile phones.

[@MichelHenriTonneau]

@ agree. What an interesting world we live in, at least for those that have the ability to enjoy it. Again many thanks for your videos and inputs

[@Lost_Johnny]

Informative video -- I am going to test drive one this week.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Great. How did it go?

[@just4therecord]

So xngp can now run without lidars? Wonder if they can adapt this eagle eye thingy to the G6 with no lidars

[@EJFJ-Corporation]

Of course, this is planned, the Pro version will be highly improved, they were already with the Tianji XOS 5.0 version but they could not deploy it fully as they tried many things and need to warranty that only the best ones are used in each case! Xpeng Motors is not like Tesla or Li Auto to accept risks for their users... They do not sell, do not like, do not propose, they improve and warranty!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

The only issue with that is that this car uses lofic cameras that are much better than standard ones and they're not fitted to non-lidar versions of G6 and G9, so any update to their XNGP would be a little hamstrung for lack of those improved cameras.

[@ياسرعليالعامري-ق7ه]

Wooow this is amazing 🤩

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Lovely car this.

[@alin5536]

Amaizing car, practical, sporty and affordable. Maybe an estate version would give it a cleaner back end, space and headroom for the rear seats in the detriment of efficiency.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Oh I'd love an estate version of this. That would be a classic.

[@aquinasua]

I think this car looks just gorgeous in black

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It would look mint in all black.

[@haoruchen4216]

My new favorite design 😂 great review

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Bit of a looker this. Not sure about the back but the front is very lithe and purposeful.

[@yome1562]

Looking forward for a comparison with the lidar autopilot systems of the G6 or G9

[@InsideChinaAuto]

That'll be tough but will see what I can do.

[@frias2287]

Nice job 👍

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They did a great job.

[@banethor]

Excited for this car to eventually hit Australian shores so I can give it a spin. Currently only just got the G6 premiering here.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I've heard on the grapevine there's one coming with the first batch of G6s to Australia so you might get a chance to see one in person very soon.

[@fyp1201]

China has come to its golden era of automotive with their EVs, sending big shockwave to traditional automotive industry. Affordable, looking good, packed with features, pretty good quality.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Indeed, and I feel there's more to come yet.

[@oa1145]

Are you going to cover the Guangzhou Auto show?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Of course. Video coming in the next 36 hours or so.

[@JianYZhong]

Hi, I understand the Xiaopeng G6 exported overseas do not have LiDAR. Will XPeng’s “hawk eye” system be rolled out to the G6 and all other models that don’t have LiDAR? Would be grateful if you could find out the answer! Something I appreciate about XPeng is that they don’t plan to charge extra for XNGP. Unlike Tesla! Am I right?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It's an interesting question on the Eagle Eye vision. I just wonder if they skimped on the Orin-X chips on those lidar-free models that went abroad or if it's still there. One thing they don't have though is the lofic cameras so even if they had the power, they might not have the extra ability the cameras offer, plus no 8-megapixel camera at the back, likely something with less resolution. I'm not sure on the XNGP cost. I certainly don't think they charge a monthly fee for it.

[@JianYZhong]

@@InsideChinaAuto Thanks. The specifications brochure for the XPeng G6 (here in Malaysia) says it has a NVIDIA-Orin-X. But it doesn't list the sensors, so probably no LOFIC cameras. Anyway, I hope Hawk Eye vision works without the LOFIC cameras, as I am thinking of getting the G6. The specifications brochure doesn't mention XNGP at all, but I assume it is because XPeng hasn't rolled it out internationally yet.

[@JianYZhong]

This Danish channel suggests Hawkeye vision will be launched in Denmark next March! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqOWhotuZqqmgJYsi=Cs1Q3iGOV1wXFsEE

[@alaasadek2908]

Hello from Egypt. Do you think that the vision only system will work in Egypt?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not immediately but I believe they're looking to open it in future. Could be a while off though so best to ask XPeng directly for official advice. There's probably quite a bit to do before that happens.

[@just4therecord]

I like the interior of this P7+ compared with the G6. Does it seats high like a SUV? And do you think they will do a RHD model for export? Thanks

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It's very much a saloon so not as high as a G6. I think very much they will be making a RHD version of this next year I'd guess.

[@blex5579]

i still remember how our german media was making fun of the "Brilliance crash test" over a decade ago....i told them then, this won`t end up well....well, it didn`t. If i was in the market, i`d go for a chinese car, but our govts put the screw on that...

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Indeed. Hubris and pride comes before a fall. I'm actually very surprised at just how bad the situation has gotten at VW, I knew it was struggling here but not quite that much.

[@blex5579]

@@InsideChinaAuto they were surfing that chinese success wave until they didn`t...mind you, VW is basically state run, highly political....labour costs out of this world, because politics and arrogance....and then there`s failure adapting to market-situations of course....cheers, keep it up!

[@blex5579]

@@InsideChinaAuto i hate i always get my responses deleted using the bell-thingy....yeah you`re right, arrogance and politics....keeping it short lol - cheers.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@blex5579 You mean the system is deleting your responses?

[@blex5579]

@@InsideChinaAuto yep- i have to go to the actual site to reply...bummer.

[@RSCB]

Awesomesauce

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Clean car this one, I like it, and quite good to drive too.

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

What marque will bite the dust next?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yuanhang is next, you'll likely hear it next Monday. You heard it here first (Not that they've made any impact at all on the car industry).

[@felipecouto9726]

Being an interior designer myself, i can say it looks not bad. But gotta admit the steering wheel black colum and spokes, on the back, really annoys me. When seeing all that white around😅

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not sure I've ever seen a car with anything other than black stalks, but i would like to have seen maybe white plastics to go with the other soft materials.

[@user-ys4og2vv8k]

Beautiful car! It probably costs less than a VW Golf (IC) but unfortunately we probably won't see it (much) in the EU due to customs barriers. We, however, will be forced to buy unbearably expensive and outdated cars made in the EU...

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Quite possible, but I do think it will make it to Europe. The only question is on the price as you mentioned.

[@MrYamaha413]

ITS TIME WESTERN CAR MANUFACTURES TO START COPY CHINESE CARS 😂

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Sounds like a good strategy. They at least need to sort out their software.

[@anthonychibuenyimteazersmedia]

Hello 💞

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Hello.

[@EJFJ-Corporation]

No, the roof is as always by Xpeng Motors 99.8% protected against UV beams so no problem with temperature!.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

That hasn't stopped the cabin getting hot from my previous experience, it just stops your skin getting baked from direct sunlight.

[@use-oc4mj6n]

Do you know why Chinese manufacturers are not interested in participating in any high level motorsport events like F1, WEC or WRC ? China only has a single F1 race which is surprising for the world's biggest auto market. The middle eastern nations (obviously paying over the top money to Liberty media) have quite a few races even though they have no auto industry or any engineers. Chinese companies certainly have the R&D engineers for top level motorsport involvement. Also the cars from China maybe a bit more handling orientated.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

The only real motorsports brand is Lynk & Co which has won the WTCC a few times. Nio was (might still be) in Formula E too. It looks as though Xiaomi is also starting to look at the performance side of things, but historically racing hasn't had a huge following in China, it was always too far out of reach for ordinary people, but that's changing slowly, there are more and more motorsports fans here, Zhou Guanyu has inspired a lot of young people, and motor racing is steadily becoming a bigger thing, but it remains an expensive sport for most people, so give it a decade or so, maybe less, I think we'll see more brands looking at it. Bear in mind Geely now owns a chunk of Aston Martin and all of Lotus so there's potential there.

[@use-oc4mj6n]

@InsideChinaAuto 👍

[@whatnow9653]

Another nail for Teslas coffin.

[@Nunya-lz9ey]

😂

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not sure it's quite there yet but we'll certainly see in the course of time. Tesla aren't going anywhere for a while yet I think.

[@protonjicari5990]

More like nail in the coffin for the legacy auto maker

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@protonjicari5990 Definitely more accurate.

[@mounirjamaaoui9780]

@@InsideChinaAuto Musk has been sleeping for sure and toying around with his other gadgets.

[@Beta-c7t]

Xpeng P7+ only minus the lidars 😂 Really against this move by Chinese auto’s to copy Tesla on having lidarless cars.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I personally think lidar is the safest option. I'm not sure you'll get to zero takeovers with no lidar. On some routes, maybe, but I've seen people who regularly drive into the sun in the morning or the evening and their FSD shuts off at the same place every time because of it. Unless they can build some kind of ND filter into the camera that comes on when the sun gets too bright, or maybe a bit like that thing the F1 cameras used to have where there was a film they could move to get flies off the camera. Something like that could be interesting, a belt with various shades of 'ND' to allow the camera to work like sunglasses.

[@HermanWillems]

@@InsideChinaAuto I think it's all about what you get for your money. Without lidar you get almost the same as lidar but for way way way less money. Lidar systems are extremely expensive and need maintenance. This means a big bill later on... while the camera's don't need maintenance. It's the law of economics.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@HermanWillems I've never heard anything about a lidar needing maintenance and they're a lot cheaper now than they were. But by your economics, we don't need airbags either, or even seatbelts really.