XPeng X2: Australia's 1st flying car? It's pie in the sky. | Auto Expert John Cadogan

[@AutoExpertJC]

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[@jolly1039]

When you think ev fire in the carpark is as bad as this goes.. imagine ev fire right on top of your house, crashing into your house at terminal velocity while putting out a firework show!!

[@johndoe-el5fi]

People can’t drive on land, imagine in the sky, it’ll be carnage

[@theairstig9164]

Autonomous vehicle traffic management systems already exist. It’s integrated with the air traffic management system that human carrying aircraft already use. On top of that human pilots have to go through a flight review every two years unlike tradies in utes

[@maifantasia3650]

Dash Cam Owners Australia would be receiving enough footage to release a daily 3 hour programme.

[@AnthonyQ730]

@@theairstig9164 not in any airspace I’ve ever flown in…US, Europe or Australia (Class A to G)….yes, ATC have software that predicts potential conflicts and can issue instructions, but it’s definitely not automatic…. But, I take your point, the technology exists for autonomous collision avoidance and interactive routing…and it will come.

[@DenisKz]

@@AnthonyQ730 AI take care of that, until it decides not to.

[@anrit5972]

How many times a day do you have to turn some piece of tech off and on again ?

[@ColinMill1]

Free-ranging blenders like that would give a whole new meaning to "mixing with other people" but not in a good way.

[@danielnak2634]

I am as keen to get into this thing as visiting the Titanic in a Titan submarine.

[@discodan2265]

The levels of insanity these days are mindblowing. Why oh why did we close down the asylums?

[@AnthonyQ730]

@@discodan2265 apparently they were closed down so all the patients could gather at the US southern border to “seek asylum” 🤪 That’s evidently the level of idiocy perpetuated by some (apparently the majority) when they believe asylum seekers come from asylums 🙄

[@TheInvoice123]

@@discodan2265 cost cutting

[@billytoohey8887]

So I could have somewhere nice to exercise the dogs. Although I do miss the loonies. They were great fun.

[@EZ-df1cm]

@@billytoohey8887 Adelaide resident I see

[@Rabsallawah]

Land was worth too much😂

[@petermapstone9684]

I reckon I can fix that permanently with my 30 inch shifter spanner. Cheers John. Very entertaining.

[@allanriches9381]

Parking at Westfield undercover car parks will be fun to watch.😅

[@TheMFrelly]

I can see lots of decapitated family members standing around watching Dad take off to work in the morning....

[@arthurtreibs4174]

You are in a league of your own, Johnny boy

[@-EC002-]

The XPeng X2, AKA, The Icarus project! 🚁

[@sheerluckholmes5468]

Is there a soopa doopa kind of hover trailer thingy that I can tow to Dingo Piss Creek for the weekend?

[@NoelyBob]

Can't wait till they are all in the sky ,more room on the road for me.

[@MichaelSuter-s9k]

Ah yes but the junk falling out the sky will be epic.

[@davidhancock91]

They will be falling on you. Body parts splattering on your windscreen.

[@davidhancock91]

Sounds like an Elon type thing. Complete BS. Pro tip. We are never going to Mars, in any of our lifetimes, or our kids, or our grandchildren’s.

[@NoelyBob]

@@davidhancock91 have to get stronger wipers.

[@davidhancock91]

Nothing like common sense explained. Not much of that these days. Ie. all those idiots turning up to Elons piss up the other day, and just believing all that nonsense he blurted out. And the next day they experts explained, it is all nonsense. How about that?

[@MickB235]

For the price they're charging for one of these you may as well go out and purchase a low time Robinson R44 or Schweitzer 300 cbi or if you really can afford it, a Bell 206 would fit the bill nicely, it's the closest helo equivalent to the family car and as a bonus, they can autorotate, not so sure the Xpeng is blessed with such capability and there's a very good reason why the flying car concept has been around since the 1930's and hasn't yet been realized as an everyday thing...oh by the way, a BRS has been tested in a helicopter, it was an unmanned unit but technically speaking the helicopter already has a parachute of sorts, its called the main rotor

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

Its 400,000 trips on QLD bus and train routes, which should last a worker about 200,000 years give or take some weekends off.

[@mikejung3908]

I’m so glad I watched this one, I was in fits of laughter just watching John trying not to laugh, yet again John this was another masterpiece.

[@b.g.tercero2351]

The skill required to manually fly an airplane or helicopter is at least an order of magnitude greater than driving. Same goes for the cost of maintenance as well as the consquences of neglecting it. Same goes for the attention to detail required, from pre-flight checks to awareness of weather conditions to monitoring aircraft performance to navigation. Anyone can safely drive a car around an empty track after 10 minutes of training (an hour if it's a manual transmission). Anyone will die if they try to fly after only an hour of training. Giving a car the ability to fly makes less sense than giving a cat scuba diving equipment.

[@JelloTypeR]

The xpeng has no controls, it uses AI.

[@TS-gg9dk]

@b.g.tercero2351: I agree. Funny example. Maybe the cat really likes fish… Scuba gear would be a game-changer! 😉

[@benchapman5247]

The Flutr (still to get to production) operates more like a drone, stability is managed by a control system, users fly it the same way. It isnt electric though due to weight. The biggest issue they are facing (apart from cash) is noise levels.

[@peeemm2032]

Yes, calling this a car is ridiculous - it doesn't appear to have wheels, and can't be operated on a road.... It's functionally a helicopter (just a severely limited one), and should be subject to all of the same restrictions and regulations. But it's electrically powered, so that somehow exempts it from having to deal with reality (just like electric cars)..... Maybe one day, helicopters will be electrically powered, and will be equipped with autonomous guidance systems, collision avoidance etc (if they don't already have elements of this, liked some fixed wing aircraft), but not before the technology has proven itself. Last time I checked FSD in cars was still illegal here.... I can't see it happening in the near future, so I'd be guessing that the possibility of getting this vehicle licenced for general use, and being able to operate it without a pilot's licence would be somewhere between zero, and nothing....

[@robames1293]

Jet powered flying cars have been around for Yonks. I remember seeing a documentary series about them, it was called "The Jetsons".

[@smiffyLevel6]

Hi John @9.22 you say an emergency Shute they say airbag! 😂

[@phoneticau]

Some mob had a static display at the Avalon Air show trade display EV AirTaxi concept, had very lukewarm reception I recalled

[@TheHappyflea]

Idiots in flying cars? Frightening enough when moving on wheels.

[@theairstig9164]

Not all pilots are idiots but some idiots can be pilots

[@rossappleton9758]

Love the little dip there at Car Expert. 😂😂🍻👍

[@UncleJoeLITE]

This is just what I need for when my superyacht is delivered. ⚓

[@stevenalexander403]

BRUTALLY HONEST AND NEVER AFRAID TO SPEAK THE TRUTH WHEN SO MANY OF US ARE THINKING EXACTLY THE SAME THING BUT AFRAID OF BEING PERSECUTED FOR BEING REAL AND HONEST BY ALL THE MISGUIDED, TREE-HUGGING, DO-GOODER, GREENIES. I've just signed up to Nord VPN!

[@harleydavo1099]

The tree huggers have stopped hugging trees. They now cheer as each wind turbine is erected.

[@royrodgers5359]

another great vid love your work

[@aitchpee5069]

The real range is half as I imagine you can't fly into a regular charging station

[@gwaeron8630]

Only one bot comment. Slipping on that ladder of popularity amongst the bots John.

[@Cloxxki]

To get range from that battery size, you make it a light plane with lift generating wings. Can have a short runway still.

[@theodavies8754]

It's right to explore the application of the technology. I'm not the target market either for sure.

[@garageblitztv3215]

It’s concerning how many of these lithium battery planes/drone startups are currently in Australia … all sucking on the Australian Taxpayer, and any investor who may be lacking in basic engineering knowledge.

[@TheInvoice123]

@@garageblitztv3215 you talking about albo bowen etc

[@abyssmanur3965]

Forget the car, wheres my hoverboard!

[@peterlyall2848]

Great Scotts!!!...Marty your hoverbourd I nearly forgot about it? Don't worry I'm still working on it. Doc...doc...can you please hurry up?...I am Marty...these things take time.

[@samuelpatacas7751]

would it even reach the area, if it was bad weather?

[@alexgrant1979]

I got a flying conversion done on my Delorean early in the 21st century for only 39.999.95. Nice

[@pinkdispatcher]

Looking at the rotor placement, we can stop any discussion of ever using this in any place where any person might walk unsupervised at any time. It's not going to happen. So, you could only use this on airports, where there are spinning deadly propellers anyway, or maybe on a fenced-in private property. If, and that's a huge IF, if is ever mass-produced, I suggest that it will have a very different setup. Does anyone here remember the first concepts for the Eviation Alice? With wingtip-Props, in the mistaken assumption that this would reduce induced drag (hint: it doesn't)? The silliest position to put your propellers, for so many reasons. The flight test vehicle used a much more conventional layout.

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

But can it invert and trim my hedges, that’s what I want to know, my Yacht doesn’t need an another helicopter when three will do.

[@Inisfad]

Instead, can we not get those personalized jet packs that we were promised when we were kids? I’ve been patiently waiting……

[@TheInvoice123]

Does it auto rotate?

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

Yep, gravity is very consistent it will automatically rotate itself into a dirt dart.

[@Gigaloader]

I actually like the idea of the self-flying robo taxi before self-driving cars.They could be low flying to the ground with designated routes. In comparison to self-driving, self-flying could work considering much less variables to consider. But please put some rotor guards on it!

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

I do to, the kids will have millions of things to graffti, it will look like a KIA Tasman Madi Gras.

[@denisiwaszczuk1176]

I could see the pub carparks on a Friday arvo . After work pint.

[@oddworld9000]

I’m not sure if I’m stupid but surely it’s manned aviation and you would be required to have a PPL (Rotorcraft) or equivalent certification?

[@thewholls7176]

John - How would the comprehensive insurance work - every time one of these things crash you take out a building somewhere...... Most accidents with cars are rear-ended fender benders and the costs are bad enough... Imagine the premiums......??!! PS - there's another idea for the channel...... JC discount code for Auto Insurance......!!! - not bad at all I say.

[@johnwade1095]

Not every time. Sometimes it might be a playground.

[@caseyhopkins6299]

Welcome to Johnny cab!

[@Parawingdelta2]

Putting aside the medical concept, there could still be some potential, although I too struggle at this stage to see any immediate benefit over a mobility scooter. Advanced automated collision avoidance systems similar to driverless cars extended to function three dimensionally could work. In other words, the only input for 'pilots' would be to populate a 'destination' box, eg, the ' Trowel and Hammer' car park.

[@billytoohey8887]

I see great potential for this flying vehicle. It could be a highly effective cloud decapitator.

[@warrenpitt6205]

Have you driven the Shark 6 yet?

[@AbbStar1989]

Just add autonomous driving. Things will be golden!

[@AnthonyQ730]

The X2 I saw on display in Abu Dhabi the other day didn’t have a control wheel (yoke) or joystick….i think it’s basically pilotless….relying on GPS and in-built collision avoidance I suppose…. I didn’t see a Ballistic Recovery System (which are common on small aircraft these days)…..in any case, don’t think I’d be getting in one 😳 I think the GCAA has approved a multi-rotor electric drone/copter for a trial in an air taxi role in Dubai….via the Uber app….and it will have a pilot 😊

[@Cloxxki]

It's ultralight. Soft landings might be a huge challenge even if it's a great stunt craft already.. An ambulance interior isn't light.

[@mblake0420]

We already have flying cars called helicopters

[@AutoExpertJC]

Yep. And they're awesome.

[@kenlee5509]

7:11 The author of the article is Leaking.

[@tomparker5000]

Sounds as effective as Elon's submarine as a rescue device

[@CrimeVid]

Pie,PIE ? did somebody say pie ? so you can have a real floater !

[@anthropicandroid4494]

I'll bet that they need the parachute b/c power for the computer, control and drive power are unified; otherwise I'd favor autorotating the multi rotors would be the far more controllable emergency option

[@AvenEngineer]

John, any idea how many ultra light helicopters exist today in Australia, other than Gyro Captain's from Mad Max 2? Seems like a small market.

[@cccmmm1234]

Well it would make self driving easier. The hard part of vehicle self driving is dodging all the stuff on the ground. That is why there have been autopilots for aircraft for over 100 years.

[@JelloTypeR]

The Xpeng doesn’t have a flight controls. No chance I’m flying in something that’s controlled by AI. When it goes all skynet and decides you stand in the way of mechanical emancipation, that’ll be a real problem.

[@petewatson9866]

EJ can’t build his Mars base because he is non stop rimming his new boss

[@Tom-ce8ib]

Will it be as easy to work on as my 1977 fj45 Landcriuser Yota?

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

And they both come with free spinal injuries 😂

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

I personally think this is a good idea. My order is in the mail.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

Why the negative feedback on the FormerPeng Former2? It looks like a very efficient human tartar machine.

[@tedburnard841]

What’s next after the X2? Ejection seats for helicopters?

[@timh6845]

More accurate to call it the “Lawn Dart”

[@markwng]

I want a go.

[@rrrandommman]

I wonder what it's pedestrian crash safety rating is.

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

It will be about 1.2 on the Dirt Dart scale.

[@andyv6127]

A non problem finally solved

[@phoneticau]

Airservices CASA wil have a lot to say about that

[@theairstig9164]

Maybe they already said something. Just not to the public

[@AnthonyQ730]

CASA, yes…Airservices, probably not.

[@Inisfad]

ICE version already invented by Ian Fleming in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

[@vidfan1701]

Imagine the nightmare of thermal runaway at 2000 feet.

[@aron2199]

JC, you always get in the way a good story- #realitycheck

[@SirGregoryPageTurner]

Hey John, you're taking curmudgeonly to a new level.

[@sjbechet1111]

If JC was my kid I would have definitely given him Frank for a middle name.

[@Baerchenization]

Of course it has a parachute - because it CAN - unlike "all the other helicopters" you've ever been in. All small gliders, paragliders, PPGs powered or not etc carry a parachute because they CAN, unlike a 10 tonnes real fucking helicopter.

[@gerardwood4059]

A real helicopter with engine failure can actually glide and land far more safely than a small plane, all helicopter pilots are trained to do it.

[@Baerchenization]

@@gerardwood4059 I'm calling BS on that. A helicopter with power loss has the blades still spinning - and only if it is not too high - DUH !! - that will facilitate a maybe rough landing still. Any ultra-light, glider etc can completely fail and always land safely, well, in princple, thanks to the parachute, obviously.

[@gerardwood4059]

@Baerchenization you decend fast and the air flow keeps the rotor blades at full speed. The stored momentum in the blades gives you just enough lifting energy to make a controlled crash landing. Very hard to get right but possible .

[@robames1293]

Talking about companies with dubious practices, what happened about the off-roader KZbinr who was being sued for an adverse review on rechargeable portable battery packs.

[@RavenAutoPartsCo]

Image you just crashed your motorcycle at Victoria Motor Sport Park and they have that standing by to rush you to the RMH. By the time you are over Coburg the battery low warning light comes on and your still 7km to the hospital. 😮 Scary! 6 years ago when my son was in that situation a medivac chopper was at VMSP in 10 minutes and he was in the hands of a trauma team in less than an hour. Thank goodness we have helicopters and not BS electric crap.

[@channelsixtysix066]

Technology would have to operate like that in the movie _The 5th. Element_ to be viable.

[@phprofYT]

NORD commercial is the best.

[@michaelanderson3771]

2 seater EV runabout - look at the Renault Twizzy . Those little electric go cart things all over europe. Why not in Aus??

[@CM-lf9gk]

Missing sales opportunities, 4 blades, the perfect way to trim the front hedge sat on your arse.

[@robertgreen9614]

That Jason Clarke from Xepeng also said in a Driven article that 10,000km (yes 10 thousand) range EV batteries are "just around the corner". Snake oil anyone?

[@CulinaryCruiseClub]

Not even my Superman cousin, who is a surgical doctor, Anathtatist, and a doctor on careflight out of Toowoomba, could do this job,even if he had a pilots license.

[@mattigower1479]

Just two questions, 1: does it have a parachute? 2: Is the parachute fireproof? Thats it, all done. Bet they are lining up round the block to place their orders. 🤣

[@sidecarmisanthrope5927]

Imagine trying to squeeze a spinal injury patient into that flying cubby hole.

[@pauljenkins4232]

❤❤❤ Allways now how to make me laugh thanks from a pommy uk 😊😅😅😅

[@Mike-tf6sc]

The press release skipped over mentioning the AI autopilot with ground avoidance features

[@justinf1949]

It's not a car, it's a big drone or chopper... which should follow CASA rules. When we have very strict drone laws in Australia, how hard will people get their license to operate this big drone inside this "car"?😂

[@Cloxxki]

Usually companies promise self flying so no need to learn anything. They'll do the certification process for all countries, don't sweat it bro.

[@techjunkie68smusicandtech56]

Considering the reputation of self driving cars I'm not too confident about the abilities of self flying cars!

[@Cloxxki]

Noteworthy that Xpeng's self parking was world leading a few years ago.

[@rw-xf4cb]

Thought eLectric jEsus has announced a flying robo cyber truck available Mar 2025.

[@davidnobular9220]

I've said it before: People have enough problems driving in 2 dimensions on roads, let alone 3 dimensions in the air. Imagine the tailgating accidents that could happen.... It'll never happen, except maybe for an elite few....

[@Trevor_Austin]

I think these things will be fantastic. I also hope their operation will not be constrained by restrictive legislation and rules. They will be so expensive to operate that only silly rich people will fly in them. The reality is matter how good the marketing material says they are the software to fly them will not be up to the job. I therefore suggest that watching them crash with silly rich people inside will be a marvellous new spectator sport. I’m all for them.

[@MickDownUnder]

I can hear them laughing at CASA.

[@Cloxxki]

It's one thing to be allowed to fly it. Now you need heli ports you'd be interested to limit yourself to. If you have neighbours, there won't be one on your property.

[@Johnnybananass-_]

If they 50 miles then in the cold it’s good for 15 at best

[@DanWallis86]

How does the pilot fly the machine as well as administering first aid to the victim?

[@johncunningham4820]

I envision " Sky Rage " incidents . Both parties , plus 43 bystanders killed...........................

[@MrButtonpresser]

Flying Coffin. Depending on the density of the soil it hits, a self-burying coffin too!

[@hoyks1]

With liquid fuels you reach the vicious circle of diminishing returns where adding extra fuel doesn't get you extra range as the weight of the fuel and structure needed to contain it adds weight and drag that bites into the payload and you need to burn extra fuel to keep it in the air, so you pack more fuel... The upside is that as you burn fuel it all gets lighter and easier to move and if you're not after max range, then don't completely fill the tanks and save the weight. With batteries you're at max weight the whole way and there is no advantage of a 1/2 charge. I may help to remove some insufferable rich prats from the gene pool, so that's nice.

[@Johnnybananass-_]

I think it’s designed for outback farmers to get to their mailbox and back to the tea and scones

[@MrChriss000]

The most volatile options of rechargeable battery storage arent enough for these nutters, they want to add several million more joules of potential energy to the accident scenario by lifting the vehicle 100's of feet into the air.

[@garageblitztv3215]

Mr Chris Bowen might be the right person to get some Taxpayer funding, considering his understanding of engineering and his incredible intelligence…

[@randykelly5692]

Exposed rotor blades =disaster

[@BradKarthauser]

Was that a flaming meteor or an XPENG?

[@julianmetcalfe1070]

They have just invented a people shredder ,