Benny's Plan Would Have Never Worked

The instigator of the entire events of Fallout New Vegas rests in the hands of Benny. After shooting the Courier to obtain the Platinum Chip, Benny undertakes his master plan to usurp control of Vegas into his hands. Through our actions, his plan can be foiled or made into our own. But could Benny have ever succeeded in his bid to lay claim to the Mojave?
The answer is no. Let's found out why.
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[@hallamhal]

The Courier can complete the Yes Man ending because they're a wildcard, whereas House is aware of Benny's motives. Even if Benny infiltrates Caesars Legion and gets the platinum chip online, House knows he wants to usurp him and can easily stop him

[@RyuusanFT86]

He also knows he's dogshit in a fight

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodgr1234]

The joys of being an computer i suppose

[@docsorrows1088]

He could just open the security door and send out the sentry bots and protectrons

[@spiritorange8325]

@@docsorrows1088 But he would never do that for the exact same reasons why he didn’t do that to the omertas

[@CrashHeadroom]

And that's why the house always wins... well atleast until a glorified mailman comes past with lead in his head >_

[@coleblack8577]

Deceitful people rarely have the ability to trust others. In Benny's case he had so many ways to succeed, working with House long enough to access the Lucky 38, aligning with other factions like the NCR temporarily to fight against House, even employing the courier. He failed and would have always failed because he backstabs everyone that could have been useful to him.

[@mediocremenace4566]

I heard that he was partially based on Bugsy Siegel a gangster that was killed for his lack of loyalty (aka not paying his off his loans)

[@usgatlas2085]

He reminds me of Dimitri Rascalov, who constantly betrays anyone who he's been in contact with since he cares so much about survival of the fittest.

[@dragonfell5078]

Literally House says he woulda made Benny his protege, he wouldn't even have needed to betray House to take control of the Strip

[@lostbutfreesoul]

The cut content really would have hammered that point home too: Even if you had freed him, he still can't comprehend being a partner in a greater scheme....

[@ntfoperative9432]

Sort of like the Chinese warrior Lu Bu, his passion was swearing loyalty to someone, then backstabbing them, until his reputation finally caught up with him, and was executed while trying to offer his loyalty again

[@TheatreStyle]

Very interesting analysis of Benny's chances, and I have to agree that there was probably no likely scenario of him coming out on top. But I also think there's a point that gets glossed over - the Courier screwed up Benny's time-table by confronting him. We don't actually know how or when he intended on using the platinum chip, and it seems likely that his failed attempt at infiltrating the Legion's basecamp was a very half-baked Plan B. One possible theory; Benny was waiting for the battle of Hoover Dam to make his move, when he would have the best chance of catching House off-guard and assassinating him, and that the Legion basecamp would be cleared out with Cesar either dead (from his brain tumor) or moved somewhere else. Then it wouldn't matter who won at Hooveer Dam, as the upgraded Securitons would mop up the victors.

[@momino9024]

9:30 I think game always strongly implied that Yes-Man ending is an anarchist ending. Especially negative karma version, it basically say's: "Courier is a giant dick and he wants to see world burn".

[@dont259]

And how would Benny know of the brain tumor? Really coping here.

[@egilsilfvenius6926]

@@dont259 i dont think the comment said he knew about the tumor

[@flamesofchaos13]

@@momino9024 It's definitely an Anarchistic ending to things. How badly and what form it takes however are up to the player's choices and morality. Another factor in play is Yes Man becoming more assertive can be interpreted to mean more independent and perhaps dictatorial. It has more ambiguity then the other endings which makes sense it's literally called the Wild Card questline and No Gods No Masters ending. But it also has just as much room to degrade or improve as the other three endings. We see both the pros and cons of Mr House and NCR endings. Then the Legion has two forms of oppression to choose from and whether or not they'll actually be able to take the West. The Brotherhood has multiple fates within the region and without. The whole point is seemingly to leave the player with multiple interpretations and keep some mystery alive. Anyways even in worst case scenario of full scale anarchy of the entire Mojave area being fragmented and conflict rising...I have to ask is that inherently wrong? That seems to be the Natural state of the Wasteland. The series provides multiple examples of Humanity trying to build civilization only to make things worse not better. The entire reason the Wasteland even exists is the end result and radical extremism of the American Way of Life. Capitalism and Hierarchy that Mr House and the NCR support...Failed. Communism and Totalitarianism that the Legion has...Failed. Anarchy or Machine Rule might in fact be the legitimate progression of the Fallout world. It's something to consider at least.

[@swiftspooner66]

If Mr House already knew that Benny was plotting against them I couldn't imagine a better time for him to think that Benny would make his move then during the chaos of the second Battle of Hoover dam no way it would work at least not smoothly

[@briand5170]

I love the fact that Benny was discovered in the fort simply because he didn’t (or refused to) mess up his hair, a funny way to show a fatal flaw he had

[@BlakeFerret]

Is that actual canon or just assumed because his character model can't change?

[@ricksang31]

@@BlakeFerret Its in the canon, Caesar himself states that's the one reason why they caught him.

[@christianweibrecht6555]

Vanity

[@PewTheToaster]

Now I wish we got the option to tell Benny at the fort: "Well well well, Looks like the game was rigged from the start." Maybe even make it a unique option if you have his pistol.

[@shadowcween7890]

From where you're kneeling, it looks like you've hit an 18 karat streak of bad luck. Truth is the game was rigged from the start.

[@ArsonRaboot]

I'm more sad about the actual cut line: "Hey Benny, special delivery! "

[@barkbuck5521]

Benny is definitely the most ballsy NPC in the game. Honestly he probably could have won if he could just get into House's doors, even if only for a little bit before a different power knocked him down. Shame to hear about that cut content, you spend the first half of the game wondering who the hell this man is only to kill him shortly after then never thinking of him again for the rest.

[@DeadManSinging1]

The Cut Content wasn't really much, the files are still in the game. It was basicly just a karma ambush from Fallout 3, but with Benny and some hitmen, and he says something like "You ruined everything you fink bastard!"

[@inurokuwarz]

Benny's biggest problem is that when a lady courior shows up and wants to get it on and *not* murder him, he's like "I'm going to go to the fort by myself" instead of "I should ask this crazy dame to go to the fort for me".

[@Reipilled29]

what?

[@wt4629]

Yeah the courier could’ve done Benny’s dirty work for him just like how the courier does everyone else’s dirty work.

[@GamingKeenBeaner]

@@wt4629 A "Courier helps Benny become king" ending would have been funny

[@chrisriley2321]

@@Reipilled29 if you play as a female character you can have sex with Benny. The original comment is saying that he could've used the Courier to get into the fort with her Mark of Caesar which allowed the Courier free access coming and going to the fort AND free walking around. As the video points out until you get to the rank of Frumentarii (or however you.spell it) you're pretty much under other officers and don't really get too much freedom of movement. But even they have to answer to the boss and the Legates like Lannius

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@Reipilled29 , There is the possibility of forgiving Benny, it leads to the same 'captured by Caesar' outcome. Once more showing that the character of Benny will never form alliances, and that is what kills him.

[@defcon4215]

All he had to do was to cut his hair

[@slickbuster8346]

*Get rid of that ol' Finky Ass haircut

[@JimUK]

And get into the Lucky 38 which he couldn't do.

[@John-Doe-Yo]

Or wear a helmet

[@Mastervan86]

Or wear wig.

[@taxult]

I mean even if he did cut his hair, no one is allowed in. The weather monitoring station so I doubt he could've snuck in

[@PG-jc8bz]

Poor Benny. He just didn’t shoot too straight in life.

[@PG-jc8bz]

@Vermouth True lol

[@bichlasagna9860]

Next time he should aim for the middle though

[@oofcrafter8839]

he hit what he was aiming for, next time he should have brought a better caliber

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

My favorite gunfighter quote is "keep shooting until the target changes shape or catches fire." This mostly refers to fighter planes and tanks, but it still applies. It highlights the idea that even if you hit your target, it doesn't mean they're dead. But to be fair, Benny wasn't counting on a rogue robot scooping the couriers body out of the grave and taking them to the nearby doctor who just so happens to be a competent brain surgeon.

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Hey may not have killed people the same way the Khans did... but he was still a fink

[@chrisamon4551]

The return of the Courier from the grave is the monkey wrench in Benny’s plan. Benny had been planning to get Yes Man into the Lucky 38 probably by storming the place one day through the tunnel He was having dug between the Tops and the Lucky 38. The arrival of the Courier in the tops forces Benny out of desperation to try infiltrate the Fort prematurely. If the courier had stayed dead, Benny would have waited possibly for months till the tunnel was complete, stormed the lucky 38 via the basement, killed MrHouse, installed Yes Man, then gone to the Fort…….. where he probably would have gotten captured anyway because of the hair thing you mentioned. He wouldn’t have trusted anybody else to take the platinum chip and he was too dumb to pull the mission off by himself.

[@GamingKeenBeaner]

He probably would have used the cover of the Battle of Hoover Dam as a chance to strike at the camp using mercenaries. Once they and House were both dealt with there might have been a slim chance Benny could have at least gained control of the Securitrons. Its just hard to imagine him holding control for long.

[@chrisamon4551]

@@GamingKeenBeaner I don’t know what mercenaries Benny could trust? Fiends Vipers Powder Gangers? The Khans won’t work with him again. Benny didn’t even tell any of the other Chairmen about his plan. Trying to infiltrate the Camp, in a Legionary disguise with the platinum chip up his butt, after Yes-Man had been installed, and the El Dorado substation rerouted, while the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam is going on, probably would have been Benny’s best chance. Soooooo many what if’s there i just doubt Benny could have pulled it off…

[@GamingKeenBeaner]

@@chrisamon4551 He definitely would have had a hard time putting a crew together for sure. Benny doesn't have the personality of a real leader

[@jamatth52]

Umm he was also digging in the wrong direction lmao...if you use the free camera you can get down to his tunnel totally going the opposite direction...dumb unfortunate Benny

[@chrisamon4551]

@@jamatth52 huh! I didn’t know that! The poor fool…

[@tinaherr3856]

To be fair to Benny, the Courier showing up and confronting him messed up his plans. His timetable was cut short, and he had to make a last minute escape and plan. If he wasn't inturupted, things could have gone differently

[@Birkebeiner1066]

Things would have gone smooth, like smooth little babies...

[@Dhips.]

He'd still need to somehow take out Mr. House. We really have no way of knowing how he'd do that. The doors never open for anyone into the Lucky 38 till the player shows up.

[@TheIrishRushin]

Benny isn't strong enough to take out House's internal security. It would be even worse if he upgraded the securitron army. He'd have to go in with dozens of pulse grenades to stand a remote chance.

[@Schregger]

IDK, as pointed out in the video, the two biggest hurdles were the Securitron upgrades and House himself, I dont know what his "perfect" timetable would have been, but I still cant see him completing the latter, and even then, the former would still go wrong, as mentioned in the video. Benny's biggest problem was that he was to confident in his plan, a plan that sounded workable, but required far more skill, guile, and subterfuge... and perhaps quite a bit of luck... then what he had.

[@left4twenty]

@@Dhips. it stands to reason, that if the player doesn't exist/show up, House would still want a man on the outside, and without the player around, Benny fits into that niche

[@SporkSlayer]

Essentially, Benny leads us to a treasure that he cannot posses.

[@sim.frischh9781]

Benny thought he can just sweettalk Caesar like he tried with everyone else, including the player when meeting him in The Tops. He dared a gamble he could not calculate the risk of and got himself killed in the process.

[@overlord5186]

He doesn't necessarily die though

[@sim.frischh9781]

@@overlord5186 But his gamble never goes off the way he hoped for, not even CLOSE to success.

[@EdgyShooter]

"Having to pay NCR taxes might be a lot worse" I mean, I've had some run ins with the tax authorities, but they've never attempted to literally crucify me...

[@thethirdsicily4802]

Not yet at least.

[@tonystank3091]

You just haven't gotten that far yet.

[@mado-wh4jv]

Try not paying them

[@iBullyDemons]

No theyll just throw you In a cell to rot if you don't pay them or shoot you if you try to resist.

[@Louis--]

If Benny thought to take bloody mess, the whole story would have gone very differently.

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

If he was gay the story would have gone differently too

[@nukesrus2663]

If he had gunrunner's arsenal installed it would've gone differently as well

[@tbotalpha8133]

I'm laughing at the idea of Doc Mitchell stitching together a horrific meat man, stuffing it in his old vault suit, and shoving it out the door to go meet the locals.

[@Stellar_Politics]

Benny could possibly use the platinum chip as a ransom demanding to enter the Lucky 38 to give Mr. House the chip himself. It'd be very risky for him though. Perhaps he could use a couple pulse grenades like his people used against a securitron to create Yes Man.

[@lucariolps277]

Hmm.. Yeah but even if house went for that, I would bet he would have benny searched for any weapon he might carry. And he would have a Ton of securitrons on site. So even if benny got in. I doubt he would be able to really get to house

[@zekun4741]

There's obviously a second entrance to the Securitron vault since there is a literal army of securitrons in there, and I don't think the bunker was designed for the securitrons to just roll up the stairs. So Benny would be easily able to make his exit without the Legion noticing.

[@kpmh2001]

Okay, there's one minor problem here, and that's Benny coming back to kill the Courier after being freed. This is likely cut content for a reason, as it doesn't make much sense for Benny to try and take on somebody who just solo'd Fortification Hill. Also, no cut-content is "canonical" no matter how well it may have fitted into the game.

[@ntfoperative9432]

And also someone who literally survived a bullet to the head

[@tylertheguy3160]

Honestly Benny was pretty damn stupid and narcissistic. I could totally buy that his ego would be big enough to think he actually at a shot at taking out the courier.

[@mado-wh4jv]

It's not rational, but losing everything would make anyone act irrationally even if it's out of jealousy for the Courier's success.

[@kpmh2001]

@@mado-wh4jv This is just about the only thing that I can think of to justify it really.

[@OnxGrid]

Ring a ding ding baby

[@riley5722]

-What's your name, sweetheart? -Chip. -Chip, how are you doing Chip? -Alright...

[@mandtcousins7121]

Benny has basically always been my favourite character in FNV and it's such a shame you only get to meet him a couple times. Adding some sort of route where the two of you manage to come to an agreement and you end up partially in control of the Tops would have been a pretty cool idea for the Yes Man route I think

[@TheForgetfulTimekeeper]

The House Always Wins.

[@terribleduelist4433]

Dude his plan is literally falling apart when you show up without courier intervention House is a Deadman counting down the days till the Legion or NCR forced their way into the Lucky 38

[@diffsnicker6570]

@@terribleduelist4433 but that's just it. He has a plan for the future. More than can be said for anyone else. Also I can tell you've never done a house playthrough because house specifically states that he provides the balance of power and that if the NCR or legion wastes troops attacking him/vegas the other will be able to easily swoop in and finish the other so what u described really wouldn't happen unless the NCR or legion fully won already in which case house would've been dead already so when you consider that ur argument really falls apart

[@terribleduelist4433]

@@diffsnicker6570 I don't trust a word house says to the player because he only trusts the player because he thinks they're dumber than and easier to manipulate than Benny and he's right

[@deevilknievel]

if only he had a stealth girl. they last three times longer.

[@n3rgal166]

i recently purchased this game and played it (i ran through the game years ago but wasn't really into the story because of lack of proper english understanding) but DAMN man this is hands down one of the best when it comes to story telling and NPC dialogue, i mean i could stand all day listening to what these NPCs trying to say or tell a story of their past, spectacular dialogue, voice acting and atmosphere even now for a 10+ years old game, great video by the way.

[@zekun4741]

"i could stand all day listening to what these NPCs trying to say" -patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@MrWert1978]

Its hard for me to play New Vegas, Freeside smells like shit.

[@Daddy_Dagoth]

@@zekun4741 we won't go without a fight. The legion can count on that

[@bigscarysoup8046]

The entire plot of the game revolves around the fact that 9mm is an inferior cartridge

[@Jay_76]

In the scenario where Benny, somehow, gains control of the Securitrons and uses them to wipe out the Legion in The Fort, you claim that the Second Battle for Hooover Dam probably wouldn't happen. Yet if the courier wipes out The Fort and kills Caesar, Lanius still attacks Hoover Dam and is unwilling to surrender without a maximum Speech check. I see no reason why the attack wouldn't happen if Benny and his new Securitron army are the ones to destroy The Fort instead. That is Benny's best chance for rule Vegas. The Legion under Lanius is going to attack Hoover Dam regardless. The NCR is going to take a great number of casualties and maybe even lose control of the dam. The NCR and Legion will be at each other's throats and in their weakened condition, Benny can either make a deal to secure Vegas's independence or, if both sides are weak enough wipe them both off the map and use the Securitrons to secure the Mojave. With a sufficient show of force and an army of military-grade robots, the other families will follow orders, at least for a while. The Brotherhood of Steel is doomed under the leadership of McNamara who seems to have a "Wait & See"" attitude and won't even send Knights to find air filters for the bunker. The Boomers _could_ be convinced to join Vegas under the right circumstances. You even say this in the video. The Great Khans aren't much of a factor, especially if they get wiped out helping Lanius during the battle for the dam. Like Benny himself says, it's a longshot. But it's not impossible.

[@AlexanderofGreatness95]

I think one point that's missing & I think it's a weak point in the writing too. Benny ultimately screwed up by ambushing the courier in the first place. Mr. House wanted to have the chip delivered so he can have the army upgraded, which was already Benny's goal. There was no need for him to intercept the courier & put himself in harms way by 1. Showing his hand to House 2. Trying to sneak into the fort to install it himself. He could've waited until House hired a spy to install the chip. After that he could've waited for the right time to spring on House. (Edit, I don't think he'd be successful in killing House though)

[@GamingKeenBeaner]

If House upgraded his securitrons and released the army of them from the fort, Benny may have felt too afraid to make a move. Even inside the casino, House himself is very well-guarded. His personal securitron guard force is formidable and Benny would have needed a serious attack force to take them down even if he snuck in to the casino itself. Benny isn't much of a leader or a warrior, so getting past all that would be tough. If they were already upgraded it would be even worse.

[@AlexanderofGreatness95]

@@GamingKeenBeaner I should've clarified that I don't think Benny would be successful in assassinating him, I was just saying him upgrading the army was a redundant part of his plan, since House was gonna do it anyways. Either way Benny is an idiot tbh. Even if he were the one to take the chip & upgrade the army, he would still have no control over them even if he somehow miraculously escaped from the fort. He would have to go into hiding from House. Sure, the robot army isn't activated until the battle of hoover dam. (House wants both NCR & Legion to weaken each other first). But the ones on the strip are still upgraded & mean. Realistically I don't see Benny succeeding in anyway. If he doesn't ambush the courier & House gets the chip + the army upgrade, all House has to do is close the Lucky 38 doors forever. If Benny does get through, House just shuts off the elevator power.. If Benny does ambush the courier, he shows his hand to House, & has to somehow sneak past Legion, upgrade the army, then sneak out...but then he still has no control over the army.

[@jeffumbach]

There's no indication that Benny knew just what the chip did until after he had obtained it and had Yes Man analyze it.

[@cadestockman5731]

The reason he ambushed the courier was to get the platinum chip. If Benny doesn’t have the platinum chip, he never gets into the lucky 38.

[@cadestockman5731]

Actually I forgot about the tunnel that Benny was having dug from the tops to the 38. In which case it IS kind of weird that he went after the chip. He’s too big brained for me

[@Valcuda]

And to add salt to the wound, Mr.House tells the Courier that had Benny not shot them, *he'd* have been the one doing all those tasks he asks the Courier to do. This would've let Benny do the Yes Man ending, by: Following houses plan till after the securitrons in the fort are active, (house would presumably have a different method for this that wouldn't lead to Benny's death), then kill house, and just follow the Yes Man ending. If Benny hadn't (tried to) killed the Courier, he would've succeeded in his goal.

[@Gamerguy826]

His defiance and greed sealed his fate.

[@TheAsaoirc]

To be fair to Benny, going to the Legion camp first was a panicked response to the courier. In this scenario he would have stayed at the tops and worked on getting into House's casino.

[@mado-wh4jv]

But there's a problem, Mr. House knows, it's a matter of time before he sent a killer squad to return the chip even if he has to kill everyone at the tops.

[@TheAsaoirc]

@@mado-wh4jv Oh absolutely, it would likely not have worked, just pointing out that his 'run to the legion' idea wasn't actually a part of his plan, just a reaction to circumstances.

[@sebastiaogaiolas9739]

He also didnt expect being cruxified either.

[@joshuagraham1800]

A game that is almost like 12 years old still has people talking about it it's just amazing

[@vandagylon2885]

But not really

[@joshuagraham1800]

@@vandagylon2885 oh yeah it is, there's so many other games that are as old as it that no one even mutters anymore

[@vandagylon2885]

@@joshuagraham1800 well. The age doesn't really matter.

[@joshuagraham1800]

@@vandagylon2885what was your goal even

[@ЧелТы-э1п]

Missed the opportunity to call the video "Benny's plan was rigged from the start"

[@artemisarrow179]

I love how New Vegas has new content +10 years after its release

[@ethanmiller631]

His intelligence stat is literally 3

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

Really? That explains a bit.

[@ЧелТы-э1п]

Whats his charisma?

[@ethanmiller631]

@@ЧелТы-э1п 3 as well but his strength is 7

[@ЧелТы-э1п]

@@ethanmiller631 I wonder how the developers assigned npc's stats. They don't make any sense

[@taxult]

@@ЧелТы-э1п It's not canon and players can't even check it most of the time so there's no point

[@HandyFox333]

Just about to go to sleep and I see you upload! How could you?

[@doggopoggo5552]

Lol same!

[@jack-exzolt9858]

Benny had a good plan going for him. But the problem was, he was too paranoid and too much of a coward to enact them. He was making enemies more than making friends. He ditched the Khans to save his skin, and threw the rest of his fellow Chairmen under the bus for his selfish delusions.

[@flakzuludeusex2365]

This guy is a gambler, so he made his moves are good but how he plays is bad by timing and his luck is always against him so The Gambler should have read people faces and knowing the cards first and he has no aces in his hand, and he should have drink his last swallow his drink and his deal is done, maybe he should have fold because the Courier 6 has a full House.

[@mastertadakatsu]

You could say; the game was rigged from the start.

[@tdgkt88]

Why does everyone put that shitty face mod on?? Makes all the characters look exactly the same....

[@boomslick2436]

I just feel like an independent New Vegas is doomed to fail ultimately. I mean it's the reincarnation of the city of sin and is already showing signs of cracks in the walls.

[@jacksonmanitoulinisland]

I mean. All the factions in new Vegas are doomed to fail at some point. No nation lasts forever just look at real history

[@boomslick2436]

Of course but I feel like New Vegas is gonnafall apart a lot sooner

[@GamingKeenBeaner]

I think it really depends on the leadership of either House or The Courier. The city and surrounding towns would definitely need to band together with some clear goals and a mobilized militia backing up the Securitron force. Then if they patched up relations with the NCR it would be possible to reopen trade to the West and be seen as an allied trade partner in order to avoid conflict. Expanding East of New Vegas would have a lot of downside for the NCR because its a lot of wasteland on the far side of the Hoover Dam. As long as they're getting economic benefit and Eastward security from New Vegas I think they could make it work. Playing the factions of The Boomers and The Khans correctly could provide them with new core missions and bring them into a strong alliance with New Vegas and thus keeping them and the NCR from getting into it. The Boomers have a lot of pre-war tech on their base that could be used to perhaps even reopen limited trade by airplane. Their artillery systems could be emplaced higher up and in better locations to cover the New Vegas area against invasion. The criminals and pimps would have to get right or get out though. Keeping Freeside and the nearby areas semi-autonomous would allow those who want to live a little more wildly a place to go.

[@diffsnicker6570]

@@GamingKeenBeaner have you played fallout 2? Even if Vegas can temporarily appease NCR their expansionist tendencies will arise again. They will have to be dealt with eventually. Probably nuked ironically enough

[@GamingKeenBeaner]

​@@diffsnicker6570 I actually missed out on the Fallout games back in the day despite being an avid gamer. I have followed the lore a lot though and I know what you are talking about. Its certainly possible they would become an issue but there's one very important thing to remember for The Courier-become-leader: the securitrons were designed and built by House in a facility that still exists near Freeside. There is also some sort of robotics place just South of New Vegas if I remember correctly. There is a lot of potential for greatly advancing the power of the New Vegas protectorate. With the various factions that The Courier has on his side and with military bot technology scavenged from various surrounding areas; The Courier could produce a significantly more advanced bot army. It could even include specialized bots for deep-desert operations. With weapons technology from The Boomers, the bot army could even have mobile artillery bots to provide support fire to their combat units. Throw in tech and bioweapons from the DLCs and The Courier has a truly epic arsenal at hand. Imagine reequipping some mobile spotter bots with guidance units for Helios strikes. The NCR would certainly not be helpless, but I think they might be the weaker part of the relationship.

[@MazeMaker4Life]

Of course it was rigged from the start, the player character survived a bullet to the head. 😂

[@GldnClaw]

2 rounds.

[@NewDayStudios]

This is well done, brilliant work, well in depth, theirs no way Beni could rule for all the points you've raised, he just wouldn't be able to get the support even if by a miracle he makes it back to Vegas, and whats stopping house from just overriding Benis command? Delusional at best!

[@user-kc2fu8iw3v]

benny's plan was pretty much a "oh crap, i almost got killed by the guy i tried to kill! i gotta run to the fort to hand the securitron army to mr house on a silver platter. what could go wrong?" he should've waited with this plan until the player kills mr house, but that would require the quest to be reworked.

[@concept5631]

Its ironic that Benny says the odds are rigged against the Courier before shooting him, when in reality, putting those two bullets into the Courier rigged the odds against him.

[@TheFrogEnjoyer]

I've been looking forward to another one of your uploads

[@quint3ssent1a]

Idk, by the time you've show up in the casino, Benny already has hacked securitron running, so I'd say his chances of succeeding were pretty high. Botched infiltration aside, he had done everything right.

[@missingmochigumanofficial]

These New Vegas analyses videos are always comprehensive and well-researched. Keep up the good work.

[@Phoenixoflife56]

The thing is that the independent route either way leads to a hollow shell of a nation that spans a single city because unless the courier uses the production facilities at the big empty, there’s no way to produce more securitrons which would be a finite military and civilian assets. Let’s assume that House has a production facility under the lucky 38 then there’s the issue of material and logistics. Especially if their in game behavior is anything to go by they have a habit of damaging each other in the process of random civilians damage that would need to be repaired. Only two options would be viable, use them exclusively for military deployment or produce ones that only use the MK one system. With that the best case is that eventually once the NCR goes for expansion they suffer a Pyrrhic victory. Meaning that they will barely win but will almost be decimated.

[@cyber1ifeconnor]

its literally shows you that independence is the worst ending only second to ceasers leagion...

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

Benny's plan in theory was sound, but that's just it. In theory. Benny didn't know House was onto him. If he had, I doubt he would've shot the Courier. Additionally, Benny never would've gotten CLOSE to the Lucky 38, much less have the red carpet rolled out for him like we did. That's literally the only reason we can do the Yes Man ending.

[@nandoxus]

Benny's weakness is his big ego. Thinking he's smarter than everyone

[@Gamerguy826]

Maybe that's why the White Glove society gave him the heebie jeebies (cannibalism aside). They were a mirror into the dark nature of his own ego, narcissism and arrogance.

[@WaysideReborned]

Im doing another play through (with mods for once ever) and my god is this game amazing.

[@The_House_Always_Wins]

Lmao that’s the only reason I still play these old games I don’t care how good the story is if it hurts my eyes to look at I’m not going to play it for an extended period of time

[@HolbrookStark]

@@The_House_Always_Wins New Vegas is beautiful even without mods though

[@joseybryant7577]

I think the key takeaway, is that without the courier he'd be dead. The courier can free him, but without him, on his own, he's dead.

[@MissNulle2000]

He could have literaly just gotten a hold of their very common legionary helmets...almost seems like a big oversight on his end that he didnt. And the fact he made such a simple oversight should say even if he hadnt made that one he probably made plenty others..

[@thelostshadow5164]

My headcannon is that mr house was using benny and the courier. I mean the yesman reprograming himself i think is just mr house takimg control. They think the same way about factions and why wouldnt he juat become mr house since hes a robco ai surrounded by mr houses everything prettt much

[@MasterOfTheBrood]

Whay on earth is wrong with Benny's face in this video? I've killed Benny dozens of times and he has more of a baby face then that I know it, I'm not crazy XD.

[@juror9668]

The courier only has an in with House because he's the courier. Benny can only steal the chip. So house has no reason to hire him as a mercenary.

[@John-vw7wf]

One could argue the game was just rigged from the start

[@OldManMcLoyf]

Love the video, hope I can one day become a large lore-ish channel like you my man.

[@HandyFox333]

I wish I had both of you guy's voice talents. [And grammar apparently.]

[@Idazmi7]

One caveat: I *_highly_* doubt the demoralized NCR troops would be eager to take on an army of rocket firing robots that just obliterated Caesar and the Fort, winning the war for them in a day where they've been struggling for 5 years. I just can't see that at all.

[@Smasho8000]

Of course the snake would bite everyone he comes in contact with, therefore burning every bridge previously open to him. He's probably a sociopath.

[@courier.66]

Only if Benny used 10mm

[@Gamerguy826]

Gun is gun in this case.

[@Eliasmizuki]

Why is no one talking about how weird this “benny” looks

[@calumhenderson9404]

I wish there was an option to bring Benny into the fold in Wildcard.

[@fatman1288]

ugh this graphics mod is fucking awful looking!

[@lorelord2418]

You fail to understand something about military dictatorships with uncertain successors. Every single potential successor starts clambering for legitimacy. You can see it throughout history. Alexander the Great's generals started civil war immediately upon his death, Genghis Khan's Khanate shattered, and after Julius Caesar was assassinated every senator and general started fighting each other to catch his murderers. So, since Lanius isn't a stupid man, he's going to realize that his best bet to hold most of the legion together is to avenge Caesar, and kill as much of the competition as possible. And throwing disloyal legionnaires and Legates into the Strip and the NCR kills two birds with one stone. So, assuming Benny burns the Camp to the ground, it's almost guaranteed that Lanius or some other Legate is going to invade to legitimize their rule

[@cyber1ifeconnor]

yup thats actually been stated 100000000000000000000000000s of times in the game that even if Ceaser dies the legion will battle in his honor.

[@jeffjr84]

Benny also wasn't that smart.. he is a tribal raider..

[@Yunoxz]

Very good video, however I disagree with one point, it is made clear in the game (i don't remember where, i could be wrong) that even with the death of ceasar (if the courrier wipe the camp) it won't change anything because lanius is the general, and that the legion still fight at the dam

[@NemFX]

Outside bet. There's a terminal in the bunker that you communicate with House through, right? So Benny could sue for peace. "I have your chip. Let's make a deal. You wipe out the Legion, I upload the chip, we do business together." Essentially, the same deal you get, but Benny is asking for it, while House offers you it. House would take Benny up on it, because that's how House would get what he wants.

[@Alex-cq1zr]

I doubt that having to pay NCR taxes is worse than being a slave. Like, taxes leave you with at least something. When you are a slave though, you are left with nothing. As for why taxes are needed - a functioning society needs resources. To be efficient at threat responses, it needs to be able to act fast and have resources at hand. So yeah, taxes work much better than individual wealth and charity in this case. Imo, Legion is bad not only cause it's a house of paper cards, but also because it's essentially plunging humanity into the darkness. Indulging in the very thing, which caused the apocalypse. House - authoritarian rule of CEO. It's like Cyberpunk, but when only one megacorp is left. Hell on Earth with an immortal ruler. Wild Card - depends on the courier, but! no matter how strong a single person is, a single person is still a single person. Wild Card ending could work with courier just giving the Mohave free reign, leaving it to self-govern, while the courier just tries to prevent outside forces from influencing Mohave... should a single person really be trusted with an army of securitrons? Maybe courier would bury that army, but won't NCR and other forces quickly return? Still, burying the robot army after taking over Mohave is one of the better scenarios, i suppose. NCR - while there is a lot of problems with NCR, it is at least trying to restore society. Yes, it's flawed and aspiring to rebuilt the society, which was one of the sides in great war, but... democracy claims, even as weak as that, can be the best choice. After all, while authoritarian society favors loyalism, democratic society favors expertise. Then again, NCR is a weak democracy, so it might just collapse into a modern style authoritarian state, but it's still one of the better choices - an attempt to create a democracy. NCR's problem is that in all of it's weak democracy and such stuff, it's basically trying to rope everyone under their control. So, it's like capitalist imperialism. Either you are part of the system, or expect a coup. Wild card and NCR are the best choices, as such. Legion - just the obvious worst choice. Apocalypse is not survived by LARPing as a twisted vision of an ancient society, while imitating all of that society's flaws. House - like NCR, but much more authoritarian. While House says he respects contracts, would he really have to breach any contracts to rule with an iron fist? I doubt so.

[@wrathin99]

"Turns out Benny really was a fink all along"

[@Surepeacooler]

It would make more sense to use the stealth boy ONCE HE ALREADY GOT TO THE FORT

[@christiannersinger7529]

My main theory for both the fallout and the elder scrolls games is that the main character doesn't exist, I think of the main character in each game as the same entity even though they're canonically separate, it's like Heracles having done so many things in his life even though there's a chance he never existed, the accomplishments of all are looped into one man because a person is easier to relate to than a large group of people, and to further my theory, each faction has someone who would logically take your place to if you hadn't shown up

[@squidlytv]

That's practically what ends up being made Canon anyways

[@blackknightz5036]

Everyone to Benny:"Can you please fuck off?" Everyone to Courier:"Can be please not kill us?"

[@Gamerguy826]

Night and day. Benny was about as oblivious as you can get to the difference and paid the ultimate price for it.

[@Thecommander248]

You make some good videos. Keep it up.

[@elkosins1686]

The simple reason is that he crossed the single dude with the power to quick load games

[@locomotivefaox]

Female courier and Benny working together instead of benny scampering off after their first date. Now that’d be a timeline.

[@patavinity1262]

*Would Never Have Worked

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

Let's just look at this from the Courier's POV before getting skull-fucked... Benny should have used 10mm, at least. He's been in the wasteland for ages, so doesn't it stand to reason that TWO OR THREE of the goons he blasted survived a headshot from his 9mm at "regular" combat distances? IRL headshots are plausibly survivable - 10%, if you don't count bleeding out or other means. Rookie move, Benny... the joke's on you.

[@Dhips.]

"two in the chest, the face get's the rest."

[@auraparty3335]

Ayyyyy forget about it

[@Michaelwasinasia]

"...and lieutenant to one of the most powerful men alive, Mr. House." "Alive's" a tricky word.

[@selfaware7617]

Okay so he could stealth boy the boat dock, blend in with a legion uniform, kill the guards in the bunker, confront house, upgrade the securitrons, disable the ones inside the bunker and make it out the door avoiding gunfire enough to make it back to the dock.. and then what? Swim back? No one is going to drive him back on the boat. Disrupting his timing has no significance in the end. His plan stops short so quickly.

[@alphax4785]

TBF, it's an open question about how fast Benny would've moved with the Courier actually dead since even if it's a female C6 with the weirdest fetish ever, Benny still has to move immediately because he knows House will find out sooner rather than later by mere fact of C6's survival. With C6 stone dead, Benny can afford to take some time before the Legion forces him no matter what, maybe come up with overrides and lockouts to make sure Yes Man is in control of the Fort and actually planning his infiltration of the Legion encampment rather than going in on an unprofessional gambler's odds. Which would lead to the scenario of Benny pulling it off. Of activating the Fort's army under Yes Man's control and slaughtering the Legion either while they're engaged with the NCR... or not... and then kicking Oliver off the dam through diplomacy... or just going Crazy Light Show Part 2 until finally making his way back to the Strip and forcing House to the bargaining table... or completing the Crazy Light Show Trilogy.

[@groovymckraut7179]

Always a good morning when Yaboiii posts first thing!

[@mactysonkarate]

What if Ulysses delivered the Chip? First how would Benny’s ambush go, even if he was successful. He definitely could track him down. But second part could House convince him into his service and if so could he complete that playthrough?

[@Deadsea_1993]

R.i.p. Matthew Perry. A huge Fallout fan and he will be missed by all. Thank you for this amazing performance and you have forever become part of Fallout now.

[@wiiu7640]

What if you just killed the legion and the house before Benny goes to stage 2? I mean I’m sure the game would break but if the game was coded to where Benny could win then what would happen?

[@jerm70]

Benny would just be executed by the Legion because he would just be outed.

[@neonmanatee1952]

I have a question. Why didn’t he just buy off the courier? He ran a bloody casino. Buy them off, and they get them away right away. He a fool!

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Considering that Benny is allegedly rich, he could've tried to just buy so many stealthboys to keep him invisible 24/7 including from House computer

[@neilprice513]

Plus the Yes Man AI program is extremely flawed and would in no way be an adequate replacement for the base securitron AI in securing the strip long term. New Vegas would just slowly devolve into chaos and infighting.

[@rayking7866]

He looked you in the eye ,dug you a grave(kinda lol) and hit you clean in the head…better then 98% of the rest of the wastlanders would do to you if you got caught by anyone else…the reason they cut him coming back is because he’s likeable compared to the rest of the wasteland and my cannon is we work together to take our house before we even go to visit baldy and when we get there we have the bots and the bear boys there to scramble his eggs and then we get the rest of the bots and either work with or push out ncr(depends on how invested I am into them that play through 😂)

[@HandFP-_-]

Wait I just thought of this, why did Benny not just shoot the courier and run? Nobody would have suspected a thing out in the wasteland. And it’s more trouble to bury him while doing so he makes himself a target to someone else

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

Plot armour and the script

[@seamusthatsthedog4819]

"Maybe Khans kill people without looking at 'em in the face. But I ain't a fink. Dig?" Probably the same sort of Chairmen code of honor was at play.

[@whitepeter619]

Stop saying 'luh-knee-us' there are multiple NPCs that say his name out loud, it's pronounced like the genius of bird. It's latin for butcher, and is a title, not his actual name.

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

Benny"hay...my plan would have worked...wouldn't it"? Me"..... yeaaaahhhhhhh...not really Benny....not really"

[@ryanmcwilliams8784]

I don’t think anyone but NCR could truly control the Mojave, with house and yes man or Benny or whoever is in control of the securitrons they could never. There is no new securitrons. They aren’t making more they might be upgraded but once they are gone they are gone so eventually they would have to give up control of new vegas

[@emilybanks5291]

The legion doesn't like flashy haircuts??? Bruh they literally walk around with spiky Mohawks

[@mr.pissedoff1903]

I listened to Benny my first playthrough, and pretty much knew he wasn’t gonna pull up to his room after he gave me 500 caps. I got like 30 bottles of liquor, too. Then I went to Caesar for the house mission, and had Benny crucified.

[@csldrsharkey7962]

I highly doubt the NCR would ever actually be able to run new vegas even if the curior chooses to side with them, thier troops are spread WAY too thin and were barely even able to keep up the dam, and not to mention, despite losing, the brotherhood of steel were able to cut down even more NCR troops

[@sebastiaogaiolas9739]

Yes Benny would need a outrageous string of luck to accomplish all of that and since he´s just a NPC he´d fail

[@GrimmFLawless]

Even though Benny wanted to use the platinum chip to rule Vegas I don’t see the Yes Man Ending as the Courier ruling Vegas. The courier just shapes the future of New Vegas based on which smaller factions he leaves alive. None of them rule Vegas but are free to do their own thing. New Vegas endings in a nutshell. Who should have absolute control over New Vegas? A. NCR B. Legion C. House D. No one

[@stax223]

Benny was not smart enough nor clever enough to pull anything clever off, that's obvious by his character. He was only meant to help push the story a bit.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Benny basically doing -kill- betray everyone wild card playthrough without any skills or perks to aid him

[@rusteshackleferd8115]

I typically side with the Brotherhood. Stupid autoincorrect turned side into dide! 😱😱😱