Yakuza Side Activities That Are FRUSTRATING

[@seanfooch6475]

Best Mahjong strategy: Quit

[@natsuko_mikan]

so true😢

[@bootlegspinjutsu9966]

Better one: Don't

[@BroGuy-yf5be]

Slots from yakuza 5 made me insane not mahjong 💀

[@sipsco01]

Or walk past it

[@Koalalover70]

Get the Nine Gates Tile

[@kalogio]

I'd have less anxiety resitting one of my childhood exams than play another game of Pool in Yakuza 3 again.

[@Bloobz]

In Yakuza 5, I was doing Shinada Side Story and then the guy is like "How if you want improve your stat, you have to play Pool and win". I tried once and said fuck that and never touched Shinada Side Story again.

[@alexeyeliseev6322]

​@@Bloobz Hahaha, I do remember that part! But to be fair I recall the difficulty is not set to highest, or you can select it yourself

[@SonnyFRST]

Were you playing in the remasters? I'm told they kinda scuffed analog sensitivy for Pool and Darts some in those so that could be why.

[@kalogio]

@@SonnyFRST yes, I'm not the type to play the original versions, not right now

[@SonnyFRST]

@@kalogio Then look up a tutorial, cause you'll need that shit.

[@stefanavious]

No, Devilleon7, you are wrong! I love Mahjong! I love being able to brute force through a game I don't know the rules of.

[@devilleon7]

That makes two of us brother

[@yaboi8940]

true, i just try to get 3/4 of same piece or 3 pieces in numerical order and managed to win with tsumo

[@greybigfoot1722]

Baseball before the Dragon Engine is pretty hard sometimes. You can use a mouse if you're on PC and it's easier, but I use the sticks on a controller because I'm a real yakuza 😎

[@aaron2927]

The JCC is the only minigame here that got me gamer mad. Learning that it's pure RNG made it worse, even the button mashes scale with yours so you could have a turbo button and still lose if you get unlucky sucks. For completionist sake at least Shogi has the puzzles that count toward completion that you can grind out quickly and later games just give you an item that gives you a bot to play for you (even though it takes like 2 minutes per turn.) I think Mahjong has circled around for me where it was the most frustrating thing ever but after doing it for so long I enjoy it now (except for the times you have to go out with a specific hand.) Shout out to CyricZ for making the 100% achievements a lot easier.

[@mrflithyslug9891]

I personally never understood the complaint of "Too much Side-content." Just don't do if you don't want to. I can understand being a little annoyed at Side-content when it's introduced into the main story, i.e., Dondoko Island, when replaying, but it's usually not very long when skipping cutscenes. I really don't understand this complaint with games like Infinite Wealth cuz you you don't even need to play all the minigames to get the Platinum Trophy.

[@arahman56]

The complaint is more from people trying to go for the 100% completion, and getting walled on some bs (like the Cat Fight RNG Hell).

[@Eugene_TEC]

Problem is Amon is sometimes gated behind some of the worst or most tedious of these (looking at you Judgment).

[@arahman56]

@@Eugene_TEC IIRC, Until 7, Amon required "all substories" completion...before he got shoved to DLC, welp. Win some, lose some.

[@DaniZeAlmighty]

​@@arahman56except for y6 where you have to do 2 specific substories instead of all of them

[@shellshock10]

@@arahman56cat fight is easy tbh.

[@5persondude]

Yakuza 5 still has the same fishing minigame from 3 and 4, but it’s a separate minigame from the “QTE”-type you see in Ishin and Zero. I remember this because one of Shinada’s Master/Trainer challenges is to catch a specific large fish to learn a new move. I legit spent at least 90 minutes with an elevated blood pressure trying to catch this particular fish. Don’t remember what fish it was or what move you got, I just remember it being one of those >100m fish and being relieved that it was over. In retrospect, I’m starting to understand Leon’s grievances with Y5 (because the 1h+ video wasn’t _quite_ enough to surpass my unconditional love for Shinader)

[@shizuwolf]

For me, it's not the activity itself that gets on my nerves but trying to progress through it. I'm referring to the coliseums. Especially in 0. The amount of grinding needed to unlock the later matches is ridiculous

[@5persondude]

Yup, Zero was my first game (like a lot of others’), and I immediately lost interest in the Coliseum after realizing how much I’d have to grind in order to play the other events. I think that also contributed to my general lack of interest in the Coliseum for every game aside from Gaiden; I totally ignored it in every other game too

[@shizuwolf]

@@5persondude Kiwami 1 wasn't that bad from what I remember. It had some grind to it, but not as bad as 0

[@CordeliaAurora]

Oh yeah unfortunately it's what put me off them for the rest of the games... Didn't bother trying because I knew they're tedious Except now I'm playing Ishin and I finally completed an arena because there are not many stages

[@sonoda944]

Zero's Coliseum is the 2nd worst in the series (1st is Yakuza 5)

[@bootlegspinjutsu9966]

Mahjong is the reason why any Yakuza game platinum was a bastard.

[@Kaimax61]

until GAIDEN and INFINITE WEALTH.... My first Platinums in my whole yakuza collection

[@fajnu20]

Playing mahjong soul and watching a few guides on it really helped

[@amberhernandez]

@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 LAD/7 didn't require mahjong for the platinum, and both Judgments could be exploited with infinite cheat items. Unfortunately for the Judgments, there were more annoying things for the platinum...

[@niko67780]

@@amberhernandez like puyo puyo 💀 although if you got the remastered version its replaced with another minigame along with pinball so if you have ps4 version of the game your pretty fucked ngl drone racing was awful if u didn't buy the dlc that gets you the bird which tbh I feel is a bit greedy other then that everything was pretty easy including mahjong because you can buy cheat items yea they cost a lot of exp but there's an exploit that gives you a lot of money and you can just buy the exp bottles from poppo until you reach the exp you want also doe shogi there's a book where it solves it for you

[@amberhernandez]

@@niko67780 I liked the drone races, especially without the DLC. Having an auto-win button for a test of skill (as opposed to RNG) never really made me happy, tbh. The grind for time attack and drone league final championship was actually pretty damned fun! But yes, it's Puyo-Puyo keeping me from the platinum 🤮

[@Froobs]

You knew you were baiting me with the Mahjong in the thumbnail LMAO It's still wild that OG 2 required you to play Shogi. At *least* you could pay that Yakuza dude to cheat, but you still had to play Shogi!!! Absolutely diabolical

[@devilleon7]

I was thinking of you when I put the Mahjong segment in Mahjong is 100% more fun for me than at least several mini-games I can think of.

[@Froobs]

@@devilleon7 Yee! I love it, but I understand why people don't. It's very nice that Yakuza 4 offers an out. Imagine if a future RGG game forced people to play Mahjong for progression lmao

[@whydoistillusethissite8626]

hearing the 13th District OST made me think this was a new VOD from the Trails through Daybreak stream for a moment lol great work Leon!

[@devilleon7]

The 13th district theme is so chill! Couldn't help it And thank you for watching!

[@MahoganyBlack]

It’s crazy to think that the original Yakuza 3 US release had stuff taken out like the majong and hostess club mini game because they thought people wouldn’t like it and to save money

[@SonnyFRST]

Seeing the amount of whinning over mahjong we get now, I don't blame them.

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

I don’t. Was honestly fuming when it was mandatory, even for only a section.

[@hiagustres]

If the hostess maker actually allowed you to be creative and do whatever outfit you want it would be fun, but basically it has only one right answer per requirement, which ruins the whole thing, pushing you to just follow a guide.

[@NeonIceyy]

I wanna mention the Haruka Comedy minigame from Yakuza 5. While it's literally no issue if you just pause and use a guide, without those methods the minigame is literal trial and error until you got every single response memorized to complete it. (And winning the 1st one is required for the substory I believe) I have no idea how anyone could beat that minigame on their first try in the intentional way the game wants you to..

[@zeroskaterz92]

They fixed it with the remastered. Only the original PS3 version was crap because there's no prompt when to press.

[@NeonIceyy]

@@zeroskaterz92 I didn't even know that it was even worse on the PS3 version, yikes..

[@RoffleHB]

The fact that the Riichi Mahjong tutorial in 51 Worldwide Games helped me understand it in 5 minutes, compared to the 3 hours I spent trying to figure it out in Judgment, shows how much the Mahjong user experience needs to be updated for the western audience. The game can be a lot of fun once you fully understand the basics. EDIT: Also the Mahjong AI in Yakuza is absolutely insane on all difficulties. Why does the easy table declare riichi within 3 turns!?

[@TovarishTony]

I could tell what tiles the AI often use as a winning tile but not as common as actual players in Mahjong Soul like not all players use their non seat wind(any other wind but East) as the winning tile either a triplet or a pair. Sometimes the AI in any Like a Dragon game is just bullshit level of lucky like either they defend like crazy or gets extremely lucky by suddenly pull off a Riichi Ippatsu aftter you or someone else called riichi a couple of turns prior. If only RGG learns from other mahjong platforms like Mahjong Soul in terms of teaching new players how to play.

[@RoffleHB]

@@TovarishTony Is Mahjong Soul worth playing if you don't like gacha games? I've heard that it's pretty beginner friendly but I don't really care for gacha stuff.

[@TovarishTony]

@@RoffleHB the gacha elements of that is only cosmetics

[@darktitan3025]

Yeah the AI is pretty bullshit sometimes. I got the Kiwami 2 platinum so I kinda know how to play Mahjong, but I still lose on Easy in Judgement and Lost Judgement fairly regularly

[@nickpresley7027]

@@darktitan3025 same story here...

[@Beanzops]

8:05 For those wondering, the song used is Jake Marshall's theme from Ace Attorney

[@EmmaTheShark]

And 10:17 is cross-examination allegro from Apollo Justice

[@uselessknowledge-h9n]

For me, I done every Amon fight in Steam release games. And substories which required mini game completion with accuracy and timing skills with my not so fully functional hands was pain literally and not literally.

[@TSKyanite]

Disco becomes easier when you start to go with the beat rather than using the screen cues. When I was getting used to it, I would litterally count to 4 under my breath with the beat in order to get it down

[@-seijuro.k]

The most effective method of torture: play mahjong minigame

[@Classygamer1337]

Even though Mahjong gives most people trouble, I've fallen in love with it after trying to 100% all yakuza games in the series. Mahjong was frustrating at first, but I was able to learn about it and was eventually able to develop good strategies for building a good hand. Mind you, I'd still get my ass kicked if I played someone for real, but Mahjong is so much fun for me and it could be fun for others if you spend the time to learn to learn the ins and outs of it!

[@theabyssfarer]

I myself,am an avid Saejima hunting minigame despiser. Great vid Leon keep it up man. (i ended up making more RGG content due to you,Snowiest and Gokudoni so i am grateful)

[@EvilMightyTrash]

3:52 I literally just did easy, Friday Night, and won..

[@xkaosdark]

Yakuza 0 made me spend 13 hours doing Mahjong, but now i am so good at it.

[@sirdarkon4517]

Mahjong and Pool...omfg i swear Pool enemy AI has like 1000 IQ and accuracy

[@gokudoni]

Fellow mahjong enthusiasts know what's up! Great video, as always :D

[@devilleon7]

Thanks man

[@TovarishTony]

I only became better at mahjong because of Mahjong Soul. Ichihime does teach the fundamentals better considering theres so much stuff in mahjong thats not explained well in any Like a Dragon game such as basic tile efficiency, 5 block theory, tenpai, needing a yaku to win(some people ask why cant ron or tsumo despite 4 sequences/triplets and a pair due to no yaku), etc. Shogi being much harder than chess despite I do play the latter due to lack of queens while only 1 rook, 1 bishop plus the complex ranking system. Also pieces like lances and generals too.

[@Al-xl8pg]

The problem with mahjong is not really learning it, but the fact that the enemy AI seems to always have an advantage over you

[@marcelosoares7148]

Any activity that involves aiming with a controller as your main input device could fit on the topic as well, lol. A mouse makes them so easy that it's nearly impossible to go back to a controller.

[@dankdankeryetdanker2726]

@@marcelosoares7148 Real Yakuza Use a Gamepad.

[@arahman56]

@@dankdankeryetdanker2726 Now try going the LightGun segments in Y0/K1 with a gamepad.

[@dankdankeryetdanker2726]

@@arahman56 I did it on Legend for both. Kiwami's was not fair.

[@Joe-gq2kv]

Mahjong does seem hard when you're first learning it and it does get pretty grindy, but once you learn enough to bs your way through, I honestly find it's much easier than the other completion requirements. Even with Shogi, you can complete it easily by either repeating the same game 5 times or by keeping an advanced shogi bot open in another tab on your computer. What's REALLY hard is motherfucking Fantasy Zone. I would like to have words with the cruel bastard who decided that we need to get 100,000 points in that impossible ass game. I know that a retro roguelike bullet hell game SOUNDS fun, but it will have you crying and cursing your existence when trying to complete Yakuza 0.

[@Tybell702]

Listen... after getting all the achievement for 0, kiwami and kiwami 2... i've started to come around to mahjong...

[@dankdankeryetdanker2726]

Telephone minigame from 0 because of the 7/9 girls required for Substory completion and it's hard to pinpoint who's a repeat and who isn't. (If the Sakuras were removed it would be better) JCC you pretty much said it all but I will add the mashing is unwinnable sometimes. Dragon Engine physics with the UFO catcher...

[@HunterForHire422]

I kinda like treating all the activities like real life. I'm walking around town and I see the mahjong parlor. I walk in and look around but I say "nah I don't really play majong" and leave. Or I see the beach and wonder if I wanna fish or not... It's existence feels cool even when I don't engage with it.

[@caustictax6617]

Part of me wants to say that being bad at Disco Is a skill issue, but I kinda get it. I was awful at it, but the songs in there are such bangers I just kept playing and playing. I got so good a it to the point that in my last playthrough I beated the Disco King, Ogita and Ms. Isobe first try

[@devilleon7]

That's basically my story with it! Hell yeah :)

[@RoadlessCamelot]

I grew an appreciation for Mahjong when I wanted to get the platinum trophy for Kiwami 2. I still go out of my way to play it in most RGG games as a way to earn easy cash, and I even play it frequently in Final Fantasy XIV. That said, though, the AI absolutely cheats, and my luck can be abysmal with starting tiles or draws versus my opponents getting turn 2 or 3 riichi declarations with lol.

[@squidblue2998]

Honorable mention: chicken racing from ishin

[@nickywampole3306]

Dude your so close to 100 thousand subs and you definitely deserve it

[@nyxqueenofshadows]

i didn't do the hostess maker in 3 but did end up doing it in 4 cos i wanted to complete all the hostesses, and even with a guide it was the most mind-numbing experience. i did them all in one go which didn't help but still. same for the version of the hostess minigame in 6 (speaking as someone who likes doing that minigame). i think if the minigame is a learnable skill (mahjong, shogi, disco, etc.) then it's not so bad - *i* might not like doing them but that doesn't make them *bad* - but when there's no trick to it and it's just tedious and/or random, it sucks all the enjoyment out of it and isn't especially good game design.

[@MaisuBirb]

Mahjong is a lot easier than people think. I could easily teach anyone the basics and have them play on their own within 20 minutes. Really just not an issue to get started, it is however unfathomably complex and deep though.

[@Gouda992]

Ps2 yakuza claw machines. Those were pure pain, especially for substories

[@valentinoromeo4400]

That thing about Ogita in 0 is funny because how he is and sad knowing the kind of man he turned in Yakuza 5

[@Gingiro]

I literally skipped 3 and 4 cabaret mini-games, because I was like "Nah, it's not worth of my time". Catfights, yeah, while idea is somewhat fun, I don't think I need to tell how much I hated it when I was doing 10 bets in a row achievement, it was VERY frustrating

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

Unironically though after learning Mahjong, it's really fun. As someone who often likes playing combined luck/skill gambling minigames just for the fun factor, Mahjong is up there as one of my favourites. The learning curve is intense but even once you start grasping the basics you will start to realize why it's so popular

[@suppwessow7430]

Gambling king's challenge was the only one I beat on my 1st playthrough funnily enough because I looked at each girl's win graph and somehow managed to make gambling king look like a scrub after analyzing like crazy. It made me prouder than anything else throughout the series. The disco minigame on the other hand is only frustrating because of the substories attached to it because otherwise I love popping in for a few songs whenever I'm nearby

[@spookydonkey42]

The activity i hate the most is HUNTING! Something about the tracking & trapping in any game drive me absolutely to the cliff of boredom in record time i cant do it without grinding my teeth.

[@tigerdropfilms]

Great video, Patriarch Leon!

[@vermili0138]

That one quest in Judgement to win a in Mahjong with a MANGAN specifically and I got it by accident without using a peerless tile somehow

[@jaypoison]

I'm with you on pretty much everything here, though I really really really love mahjong and disco, haven't had major problems with any of the rhythm based mini games.

[@captainsupreme2323]

I can definitely relate to every single minigame on this list, I grinded the platinum for every game (I still have Lost Judgement, Gaiden and Infinite Wealth left) and most of those repetitive minigames are almost decent, if you only need to reach a certain point for a substory, but are far worse for completion 😂 mahjong in particular, I can now confidently say that I can play it well and I'm not sure if I should be proud of the several dozen hours it took me to reach that point 😅 but I loved the disco, probably because I just played it over and over I didn't really have trouble with the battles the worst thing in the end was the crafting in Ishin though and while not a minigame per se, it took me 60 hours to craft every single item 😢 (for reference: it also took me 60 hours to complete the game and all substories on the highest difficulty 😂) but great video, really made me laugh, keep it up 🎉

[@coreywilson7326]

Oh yea The 100m dollar grind in fist of the north star and the tailsmen ( currently working on)

[@NeonArcaneSaint]

Man if there's one minigame I never bothered playing in any yakuza game (other than mahjong) is fishing lol I see that stuff and just walk away to do something else.

[@1Raheem]

The mahjong thing started with the yakuza platinum and now I play mahjong soul on my free time

[@SnowiestAngeman]

As iconic as they are, I think the Hostess Chat minigames and the Pocket Circuit minigames are legit the worst minigames in the series. Like, there is no real interaction in them because the only way to win either of them is to follow a guide exactly how it's written. It's basically like watching a video at that point and in comparison to the minigames where you quite literally watch a video, at least those ones don't pretend that they're more than that lol

[@devilleon7]

Actually so true. I was tempted to throw in Pocket Circuit Racing in here because I personally dislike it a lot, though I know the community generally likes it (I think). Perhaps in the sequel to this video 🤣

[@rickykeim2005]

I actually just ignore the Mahjong and the Shogi because I don't know how to play these Games. oh yeah Taking Tests I have to Pay for isn't really that fun but at least it's Beneficial. that's why I suffered through that. I suck at Rhythm games so I only played the Disco when I had to but it was perfect for the time period the Game takes place in.

[@ArdaTheCoffeeBean]

You dare insult kiryu's fan!? Look at that himbo lookin so goofy yet confident! How can you not love that!

[@K1LL3Rm0nkay]

Y3 & 4 is the best fishing in the games I've played so far. When starting Y5 I was quite dissapointed to learn it was the Y0 fishing again.

[@Arxyee]

The most frustrating experience I had with a side activity were Saigo's stupid training missions. I managed to do them all in yakuza 4, but gave up about halfway through in 5. I still don't understand why they gave those missions to Akiyama, the person who doesn't have an use for his teachings. Saejima would've made more sense. What was even more frustrating in 5 is that this was the only unique side activity Akiyama had, while everyone else got a plethora of other things to do. If I had to pick a minigame I had the most frustrating experience with, it'd be Toylets. I don't know how bad it is right now, but when it launched on PC it was impossible (or next to impossible?) to beat it. I was very close to 100%'ing the game, but this minigame killed my interest.

[@AngelCopout]

Mahjong is fun af but I play ranked in Riichi City and it's the most frustrating thing when my rank drops like 200 points after getting absolutely nuked. Bro I got Double Yakuman'd E1... Still though it is so fun.

[@tomaszbartkowiak157]

Very cool vid. I admit I was quite surprised seeing the disco on the list here, I'm fond of it myself, but yeah it can be tough. As for side activities I wasn't fond of, I would def. pick shogi since, for the life of mine I just can't figure it out, the hostess manager from Y3/4 given how tedious and obtuse it is and probably Saejima's Dojo in Y4 😉 Dodonko Island would be an honorary mention mainly because it's a bit imposed and it just feels overwhelming for a kind of side content I would not go out of my way if it wasn't included in IW. Welp, they can't all be winners I suppose 😉

[@lucigiovanna237]

Funnily enough, I played Mahjong Soul BEFORE playing Yakuza 0 onwards, so I already know which tenpai to reach for lmao

[@NoForksGiven]

Karoake and dancing are fun not because the minigame is fun, but because the music slaps. Darts is also alright. EZ to cheese with k/m and the substories are usually very short and easy, compared to some...

[@ZeR0W1]

yeah, I love Mahjong, but I would never really want to learn it in Yakuza. Now that I learned it elsewhere, I can go play it in Yakuza and have a blast. But then I also liked the Yakuza 3 and 4 Fishing, and also loved the disco, so I don't know how good of an example I can actually be.

[@USSJ2Otaku3084]

I like the Hostess Club one, but Mahjong is where it's at. Mahjong is like Gin Rummy and Poker combined. If you don't know what Rummy looks like, I can suggest checking out some videos and you may spot some similarities to mahjong. I do agree that the whole mahjong scoring system is huge.

[@RushValentine]

Funny enough that i started to like mahjong ever since i played Mahjong Soul. And that game actually made me understand mahjong better.

[@SirNile]

I learned Mahjong for a few of the platinums, and it only invigorated my dislike for it when I realized I'm just hoping for good hands the whole time.

[@DonVecta]

The only reason I like the hostess maker in Yakuza 4 is because I wanna keep listening to Elise background music. I love that track along with the customization track as well. Fishing in 3 and 4 was shit. I'm so glad it was simplified down in modern games. Never had an issue with dancing in Y0 but it wasn't a fun game, despite loving rhythm games. I think I preferred the versus battle dances in Y5 instead... or implementing something similar to Bust a Groove for instance. Now, THAT would keep me glued to that mini-game! I simply can't get into Shogi, but Majiang... man, I have spent entire hours in each and every game playing Majiang and winning the local tournament just for bragging rights. It's still too RNG'd as any gambling game, but yeah, if you learn how to make your hands, it's pretty awesome. Oh yeah, and for all the hostess club minigames I always get a guide. It's so random getting to guess the girl's responses I'm like fawk it, GameFAQs!

[@Vault_69]

I'm a completionist for this series so I'm well versed in the minigames. If I had to pick a least favorite I'd have to go with a lesser known one from Kenzan. It's a card game that requires knowing Kanji and Hiragana. I found a image that shows the answers but the AI is crazy fast in picking the right card making it almost impossible. Also I actually really like Mahjong and will play it for early in the game for money

[@Pathogenus]

yakuza is the reason i learned mahjong and im glad cause it becomes fun once you know what you're doing. but i understand how annoying it might feel having to learn whole game just for clearing the completion list. i still cant bother with shogi cause i suck even at chess and shogi has way too many options for each move. luckily in many games you can clear it from completion list by just grinding same shogi puzzle i wouldnt say hostess club is frustrating as its more tedious and boring for me fishing is the worst for how grindy and random it is, i just skip completion list if the game has fishing involved

[@synthiandrakon]

Yakuza 3s fishing feels great, it feels interactive and once you get the hang of it it's pretty easy

[@goodSuperman]

Only minigames i can think of that i think are frustrating mostly just because of in game 100% challenges that you didn't list would be stuff like Puyo Puyo because of the defeat all rivals challenge. The massage parlor in 3 & 4 because the challenges basically requires you to always be near the top and with how often the game fluctuates going up and down and with how easy it is to press mostly the button for it to go up too many times making it an instant game over and having to sit there until you can play again. The courtesan shootem up game in Ishin is another one most people wont complete mostly because of that final stage. Toylets in Kiwami 2 is annoying since some people find it hard to match their opponents stream and people on pc had to lower their fps to 30 to even have a chance at winning.

[@goodSuperman]

Forgot to mention SpikeOut from Infinite Wealth in game 100% list. The fact you have to do almost 2 full runs because you have to do all levels including the secret ones. The fact that you have to do that as both Ichiban and Kiryu for the full in game completion definitely makes it annoying.

[@Quantum722]

In some older engines (along with the dragon engine) of Mahjong in Yakuza allows you to get away with it due to the completion list being based on how much currency you won overtime simply by using cheat engine just to reduce the time you're wasting while the Kiwami engines of Mahjong has to make you win in certain ways and how much currency you won over. Fuck the pool minigame with the controller at least the darts minigame from the newer and older engines are so much better as it goes on and it's more manageable to complete for the completion list.

[@deathk3004]

In the disco minigame, I found the ogita substory to be way worse than isobe. I beat her easily, while ogita took me lots of attempts and requiring near perfection on easy mode( the other difficulties were way worse) + luck( ogita having a worse result than usual)

[@ryanp7546]

8:07 I hear Jake Marshall's theme. Do you play Ace Attorney Leon?

[@GodOfOrphans]

Maybe it's stocholm syndrom but I actually grew to really like Mahjong through Yakuza that said the completion requirements for it are still utter PITAs in every game. a lot of pure luck and heavy amounts of it are required even if you know the game like getting Riichi Ipatsu and a good enough hand for some of the score requirements, even knowledge and skill at the game can't do much to mitigate the luck required for those if it was just limited to getting a certain amount of winnings it wouldn't be so bad but the fact that they overstuff it with some of the most secondary goals of all the minigames is ridiculous. Even the most fleshed out minigames and side content frequently have less secondary goals compared to mahjong it's crazy

[@CathyDotUK]

I love everything about the Disco but the gameplay i just can't do it i literally just took the -10 share from the media king instead of trying to succeed i just can't do it

[@darktitan3025]

The bike racing from Lost Judgement. Its not very fun and there is SO MUCH of it.

[@sniper712]

this is why i have like one yakuza plat and it's from 6 grinding money in judgment was a pain and don't get me started on those drone racing... also puyo puyo can go suck an egg, leaving it at that

[@kaiserkreuz4155]

I join with you on every game, except the Clinic Minigame that I haven't experienced yet (but it looks really sick, so I wouldn't include it there.) I think the issue with Mahjong isn't really how to learn the moves, but more about how the AI randomly gets Ultra Instinct and can go as far as double riichi pretty frequently while you're still trying to do your hand. For anything hostess and catfight related, except the Cabaret Club Czar, I really hate this: I mean, CCC handled it much better, with actual life-like conversations with platinum hostesses and fun Overcooked-style gameplay, then Yakuza 6 and Gaiden came out and it's now a .MOV fest with pre-registered uninteresting dialogues. I mean, i'm not expecting hostesses to be as well-written as most of Xenogears or FFX's characters, but there's a world between writing a plank of wood and a life-like character, and the worst is that they're more than able to do the latter. TL;DR the hostess minigames are annoying because the girls are absolutely shallow and uninteresting for the most part, and investing hours for even one hostess while you could play Karaoke is a crime (I'm giving this opinion as someone who platinum'd every mainline game at least once.) The catfight too has been very badly handled: as you said, if you could fight as one of the girls with a subset of moves, it'd be actually good. It's just the Fighter Maker minigame but with even more RNG and "sexy" ladies. The trophy for winning 10 tournaments made me cringe so hard by the end of it I wished to never do this minigame again... then I remember I still have 3 versions of Y0 to platinum. Man, why is this minigame not like the coliseum... Also I love Y3-5 fishing, except when I fish concrete barrels instead of tunas. I'd rather fish from La Seine if I wanted to fish corpses.

[@manvslife271]

I feel like a lot of people's frustrations with Mahjong are actually caused by the game doing a shitty job at explaining how to win and letting players reach that point. (And also, the AI straight up cheating to have any chance against someone who knows what they are doing) And I think that a LOT of that frustration could be easily solved by simply having a prompt to go Riichi appear the moment you are actually able to do it, the same way prompts show up for Chi, Pon and Kan. I still don't understand why the option is behind an extra button press when most players barely know the controls of the minigame itself.

[@NullVoid-rm7jm]

I don't mind all the extra content. I just hate and despise that I have to do literally ALL of it for the platinum trophy on Playstation

[@apurpledragon]

I think the other reason was because back then Mahjong was REQUIRED for 100% which I think stopped at around 6 or Judge Eyes.

[@mihmo2663]

Both Judgement games have a lot of Mahjong, 6, 7, and 8 don't. At least I don't remember it in 8.

[@SilverBld]

Man it breaks my heart that infinite wealth is the only yakuza game I haven't finished because of how much bloated it is and just unnecessary filler just to drag things on and on I'm going back to it at some point but man it's brutal at times.

[@maru5235]

i beat IW in 50 hours across like 4 months because of how burnt out i was after playing a single session of it i love the game, it's still a fantastic yakuza game with a great, solid ending but holy shit it makes yakuza 5 look average-sized in comparison (also the pacing of the story is Wack, capital W Wack)

[@SilverBld]

@@maru5235 EXACTLY!

[@youtait]

this is EXACTLY how i feel, i feel so bogged down by how much content there is and i still havent finished the game after all this time - i think im at a point just before the finale, which makes the issue so much worse because you feel the need to delay the story in order to tie up loose ends with the side content… but theres just too much

[@ViperMegalodon]

I don't think you considered crafting a correct side activity for this video, but it's easily the most annoying and tedious part of every yakuza completion run I've had. Especially in 5, 0 and Ishin Kiwami. Oh, crafting in Ishin Kiwami, what a torture

[@petervanheerden2133]

The special ufo catcher from 5. The level or precision you need is a joke

[@TheHiddenOne690]

I will do every piece of side content in the yakuza franchise but I refuse to touch the mahong.

[@magnonymous01]

I have been playin riichi mahjong since 2011 so for me, that minigame is my favorite right off the bat. The one thing that irritates me is the disco in 0

[@InsertCreativeHandleHere09]

The sea fishing in 5 was very painful too. Catching that Marlin for Shinada’s training was torturous.

[@Flutterdark_]

i see the clinic footage. the only problem i can see is the spotlights cause the inputs themselves are fine (seriously if people struggle with that they should not touch project diva)

[@JacopoBerzeatti10]

Shogi is cool, I like it because the rules are similar to chess, aside from there being different pieces and no endgames. The mini game I hate is Pachinko mainly because I can’t understand anything about it

[@niko67780]

mine was definitely puyo puyo from judgment getting that queen to spawn and actually beating her was imo the worst thing I experienced in the entire series took me fucking months to beat that shit definitely the hardest platinum trophy i got and that's coming from the person who got the platinum trophy for gta 5💀

[@alfafranekpolak315]

I didn't like pocket circuit, because its pretty much hostess Club (not management) for boys. Its goofy seeing adults be so engaged in this seemingly childs game, but it doesnt change the fact that I had to use guide every single time.

[@renotv3860]

Skill Issue Seriously, though, you really were just bad or impatient. Pocket Circuit is all about understanding the track and then building a car for that track. It's basically a puzzle game.

[@Sarahm2261]

​@renotv3860 yea I understand not wanting to engage with the mini game if it not your type of thing, but there a reason people like it cause it fun to figure the puzzle piece of each car part to beat the races.

[@merigold3849]

Mr. Devilleon7, I really enjoy your Yakuza videos and style of that videos I rewatched your videos while gaming or trying to sleep. However, for the growth of your channel, I think branching out into other games like Resident Evil, Silent Hill, or any other games you're passionate about could be great. I know you're not just about Yakuza, so I'm looking forward to seeing something different from you.

[@devilleon7]

Thank you so much for saying all that! I've been wanting to make videos like this but for other game series, I might consider it even moreso after seeing a comment like yours. Thank you again

[@mihmo2663]

I've seen other channels that focus on one series try to branch out to others and no one watched those videos so the creators were stuck doing the same thing for eternity. The creators that do The Sims content are the ones most stuck.

[@merigold3849]

@@mihmo2663 I understand that Yakuza is his main focus, but trying out new content could attract more people to the channel. After all, Yakuza isn’t going anywhere, but only making content about Yakuza seems a bit restrictive from my perspective. I'm not saying Devilleon7 should stop making Yakuza videos he has a great editing style, and his videos are always entertaining to watch. But creating content about other games could help him reach a broader audience and break away from the Yakuza-guy persona just a thought i'm just a normal person looking at it from a viewer's perspective, so maybe you're right.

[@SarmInTheHat7030]

I gave up on the tuna in yakuza 3 i don't remember if i even paid With alot of minigames the smaller ones anyways i checked once or twice then never again usually cause substory let me there or in the case it part story (such as 4&5) alot of them are a copy paste from previous games such darts and the gambling games or just dont hold my interest like the haruka idol game or the hunting village or the training dojo Theere are minigames that i did enjoy like y6 clan creator (hot take i know) the business mini game from 7 the i try the ramen shop in Ishin and karaoke of course Also a note on clinic i had break from for good bit it was getting so intense my hands really feeling the heat so to speak and the it was relieved the buttons promotes messed with my brain alot

[@Willhoo85]

As someone who completed almost all of RGGS games (except IW which i had not bought it) I definitely has some opinions about these mini games. Of course if i were to comment on ALL the minigames, it would need to print out a book. These mini games are ones that i ENJOYED mostly. Mahjong - I am fortunate enough to learn how to play this game WAY before playing the Yakuza games. The RNG on mahjong can be as vile. There was once the round just start and one of the AI declare richi. And there was once all 3 AI declare richii all at same time. So i can understand why some Yakuza fans hated mahjong with a passion. JCC - Hot sweaty ladies fighting in their lingeries?? What's not to love? I understand it is purely RNG. But mostly, i just choose the blonde or stewardess and that's it. Gambling games - win big and if you lose, just reload the game? One of my fav is Oicho Kabu using 10-10-1 item. Golf - Just gonna describe the remaster Y3-5. Somehow i felt the controls in Y3 is the best among Y3-5. But this is just my opinion. The later games such as 7, LJ are the best of course.

[@gameslayers2594]

It kinda upsets me to a small degree to see the disparity in minigame reception, but I can't claim to be perfect and love every minigame ever as I just dislike most of - if not every arcade game in every installment I've played thus far. But specifically mahjong which is the most brought up one, I have an assumption that people don't actually try to learn it properly because of the whole "rah I hate mahjong rah" take online. I got three of my buddies to launch up yakuza 0 so we could play mahjong against each other and it was genuinely very fun - AND they actually started learning how to play the game, two of them admitted that their understanding was leaning them towards enjoying the time. I learned mahjong in premium adventure of yakuza 0 (my first title) and have looked forward to dropping by a parlour in every game since, to either try to make some wacky hands or just rake in 6 digits worth yen. Though for pure money gain nothing beats Koi Koi.

[@ParrotMan01276]

Mahjong is a game made by psychopaths, for psychopaths, and enjoyed by...well you know.

[@KingNarukami45]

I will never ever understand Mahjong and Shogi. My brain just can’t comprehend 😅😅😅

[@reman4631]

As someone who spent 7 hours learning mojang to 100% kiwami 2, I can confirm it pisses me off with every fiber of my being after a loser bot gets Ron five times in a row.

[@E-Man_B-Boy]

I personally dislike the pocket circuit minigame, mainly due to the rng that is involved. You could spend hours trying to find the right combination, only for the game to screw you over anyway

[@renotv3860]

How are people so bad at Pocket Circuit?

[@marcelosoares7148]

Yeah, i feel like this is not talked about enough, probably because 99% of the people just use a guide. Although RNG can still bite you in the ass even if you follow the guide.

[@E-Man_B-Boy]

@@marcelosoares7148 The guide helps for sure but even then theres still rng involved. Even the lane that you start on can make a HUGE difference

[@aronsurakh1747]

if most people are just grabbing a guide to get through it that's probably a good sign it's not a good section​@@marcelosoares7148

[@Sarahm2261]

Meh at least there a fast forward feature that make it not much of a issue.

[@sandorbence2067]

The Paradive VR (both in Judgement and Lost Judegemt, probably worse in the latter) and the Roboitcs club in Lost Judgment. The first one makes me feel physically sick after some time, the 2nd one made me so angry that I just used a trainer to skip it. Disco is an odd one because the whole setting is great and the game seems easy on lower difficulty rivals, but it gets way too hard and the timing feels off. The old hostess ones are just rather boring than hard, same as the fighter trainer side activity in 4. Mahjong is mahjong, just give me cheat items or leave me alone with it.

[@Amatt0]

I don't really like the robotics club minigame because of the grinding required to build parts