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@hellcat5music10 ай бұрын
There's a reason I got the Izotope everything pack. IMO the best toolset available, hands down.
@croay10 ай бұрын
bold of you to assume that I need compressors to ruin my songs
@Cult_of_the_Mantis10 ай бұрын
This sounds familiar 🤣🤣
@MrFizzyhouse10 ай бұрын
I didn’t hear her mention your name once 🤔
@Cult_of_the_Mantis10 ай бұрын
It was a joke mate, he means his music isn't the best anyway :)@@MrFizzyhouse
@croay10 ай бұрын
@@MrFizzyhouse me neither, crazy right?
@Kunibert_Knatter10 ай бұрын
Meme! 🤣
@3rdStoreyChemist10 ай бұрын
You've made an error here. The "colour" can come from the compressor working, so having a steady tone going into a compressor is not the best demonstration of that. In fact your example with the drums highlights it perfectly. When the attack & decay are too fast, it'll create a click and harmonics as a result, no different to doing the same with ADSR's on a synth and also a result of fast decay so the compressor has returned to normal and therefore reacts to each transient. The curve from how the compressor reacts will dictate how it sounds. Also if you use already heavily processed samples, that's always going to end up over compressed with more compression. Compressors are for a different type of audio, like an acoustic drum kit with some microphones on it. Snares & kicks don't sound anything like heavily processed samples. Take a snare recording, throw on a SSL 4k emulation and set the compressor to fast attack and you'll recognise the sound immediately. For certain genres and how they are produced, I do agree compressors are unnecessary. But its incorrect to claim its snake oil when you're using them in the wrong scenario or in ways that isn't them working.
@bigboss-qv7pe10 ай бұрын
Exactly, this guy is dumb!
@acikacika9 ай бұрын
Very accurate counterargument!! Flat undinamic source isn't considered a candidate for compressor application ever rather than dynamically rich ones.
@panorama_mastering10 ай бұрын
Haha tricky ~ I heard the filters envelope open up on example 1, so that when example 2 starts your ears were adjusted to the open/brighter envelope... they're the same ;) Smart move using the transient shaper; a lot of people think to use transient shapers ONLY for more PUNCH; RE: OTT ~ Complete phase inversions at the cross overs and at default the linear response is whack! Not a great choice IMO; Great video!
@dennis580610 ай бұрын
what other good uses do transient shapers have ?
@WalkinonSunshyne10 ай бұрын
I think OTT was used because it’s a popular too among beginner producers.
@amigazo397210 ай бұрын
I literally love how much I learn with you. Especially from a scientist way to a translated, easy way to digest. I like the way you show the example with audio and graphics. This is how one understand what you are talking about. Your channel is just gold in this overpopulated KZbin full of many people pretending to know a lot and confusing beginners.
@iamwissu10 ай бұрын
Very good video! I think it's important to discuss how overrated compressors can be. However, it's also important to point out that it is essential in various ways. (Aint sure if you already made a video about how to properly use compressors) but I think it's significant to think about it. Concerning the Master, I think using a multiband compressor is good! Working on Lows/mids/highs seperated will have positive outcomes
@t0x0n1x10 ай бұрын
I used to slam the compressor to create a pumping/ducking effect on tracks, but that was a terrible mistake. The second mistake was using the limiter to make mixes sound loud. I bet the engineers cutting vinyl back then were getting tired of trying to make a record sound good with such terrible source material. I wish they had sent the master back and said "Stop using so much compression/limiting and just do a better mix" - but they didn't, and we did not send the test pressing back asking questions about how we can make the record sound better/what we're doing wrong. We just thought we did our best/they did their best and we're stuck with a whole lot of terrible sounding records. I mean they were playable, but they didn't sound like we wanted them to. Playing them on broadcast radio stations was the worst - the additional broadcast compression makes over-compressed/limited tracks sound even more squashed and distorted. For vinyl, don't squish the dynamics out of the tracks. And verify the test pressing before you do a production run. If the test pressing sounds bad, talk to the engineer or get someone who knows how to mix for vinyl to have a listen. I agree - OTT = Over The Top compression. They will ruin everything if you lean on them too hard/too often.
@LETTMusic10 ай бұрын
It's taken me 10+ years to really feel comfortable with compressors, understanding the differences between most digital stock, and analog variants like Opto (LA-2A), FET (1176), VCA (SSL, buss compressors), and Vari-Mu. I think to the point of compressors adding character, there's a lot of snake oil, but there's also a lot of truth. Some companies like Plugin Alliance/Brainworx have a great selection of analog modeled compressors. It's not uncommon in the industry for some engineers to add some analog compressors with no actual gain reduction being applied as 'tone boxes', basically pass-through plugins just to add some character of analog circuitry/transistors. I did a test of my own on some various compressors on a sine wave, and some that I tested gave a lot more noticeable harmonics than the example in your video. It's worth pointing out that most sounds will be a lot more timbrally rich than a pure sine tone, so the harmonics generated will be more interesting across the spectrum and more noticeable to the ear on a more interesting source, such as a drum break or vocals or electric guitar. As for a compressor on a master bus, SSL-style VCA buss compressors are very common, typically slow attack, fast release, 2:1 or 4:1 ratio, only doing like 2-5dB of gain reduction. Using this style of compression on the master will not lead to a pumping sound, and instead often enhances the groove of the track. If you have pumping because of compression, that tends to imply too slow a release time. A release time of like 0.1ms or 0.3ms sounds great. I recommend for anyone interested in learning about the different types of analog compressors and where to generally use them to check the 'Choosing the right compressor' YT series with Justin Colletti from Plugin Alliance. I found them highly educational. As to OTT, I don't love the sound myself, probably to your points on phase crossovers. It's worth pointing out OTT doesn't only do downwards compression, it does upwards compression too. So for people who don't know what they are doing, on something like recorded vocals or drums, it will increase the noise floor so background sound like air conditioning or a CPU fan may really come out thanks to OTT.
@CinemaDubz10 ай бұрын
after many long years of learning digital music production, I have learned enough to know I'm pretty bad lol. I enjoy your tutorials, they reveal how I am used to bad practice. It's like learning for a new time.
@GoldToni-z2t9 ай бұрын
Superbly explained tips as always ! Even if one does it another way, there a lot of hints to think over or think new.
@EnricoDeianamusic10 ай бұрын
I'm finding your contents very helpful! Thank you! Also in this video your personal research emerges and you made me think about how even from a Mix point of view we remain faithful to standards that are sometimes obsolete. Certainly, compressors remain cornerstones of studio Outboard but as you point out, there are tools that can preserve dynamics and still achieve the desired result! Great videos! Glad to have discovered you!
@AutPen3810 ай бұрын
One of the problems for beginners is that we're constantly told that "Compressors reduce the dynamic range and this will enable you to have more headroom and louder mixes", but - depending on the attack and release settings - the exact opposite can be true. A compressor can actually make a (drum) loop more "spiky", as it lets the initial transient through, and then reduces the volume of the body of the kick or snare. After the make-up gain is applied to bring up the average volume, the peaks can actually be higher than before, meaning you have less headroom. In many cases, a drum loop is improved better with some soft-clipping rather than a compressor, as when the latter is used with the "wrong" settings it will turn up the bits that you want to be quieter and turn down the bits you want to be louder. To reiterate, Compressors DON'T always reduce dynamic range. Depending on the settings, they can do the opposite. For beginners, it's very hard to dial in the "correct" settings to make 'fat' drums, so you should either practice a lot and use visual scopes to see what happens to the peaks and troughs, and/or use a clipper instead if you just want to reduce the peaks and increase the perceived average volume.
@TehAwesomer8 ай бұрын
Great comment.
@chocomalk10 ай бұрын
The problem with listening comparisons and the thing that makes mixing tricky is that your ears get used to certain frequencies and turn them down while turning up others.
@glennfordsolinap860610 ай бұрын
agreed, basically the perceived loudness and it really depends on the goal of how you want the sound to be, assuming you like squashing the sound but then you are to put distortion afterwards
@Alice-Efe10 ай бұрын
Ear fatigue and ear bias are very unknown but detrimental problems. We can go a whole essay on it.
@R1PPA-C10 ай бұрын
Same goes for listening or producing at loud volumes, everything sounds great loud, I suffer from this chronically, I don't get a real feel for my music unless it's loud but this is self destructive. Also ear fatigue and mental fatigue messes with me. I've had to learn to take big breaks from projects and revisit them sometimes weeks down the line to really hear what's wrong and right with a track and it also stops me from over producing a track to the point where it becomes worse than it was a few versions prior
@Mefistofy10 ай бұрын
@@R1PPA-C Something flipped in me and I started to mix rather silent after setting setting levels roughly to sit nice in the spectrum. You really have to work to make the important elements pop as they should. Helped me a lot in de-muddying my mixes. Fatigue was also an issue for me. I know something was not right but could not figure out what, all changes sounded the same and I try not to change anything if I don't notice the difference.
@R1PPA-C10 ай бұрын
@@Mefistofy yeah same here, especially with over correcting a track to the point I make it worse. one issue I have is I live in an apartment and my downstairs neighbour is hell, I have two pairs of monitors and I can barely use them at all even on really low... so I have 5 very different pairs of headphones to try produce on, but this is where the issue is... I turn my headphones up.. Gradually louder over time to the point I'm hammering the gain,ear drums bleeding and coming back the next day to find a horriblly out of balance track
@HenningUhle10 ай бұрын
Nice video! TBH, I don't do much compressing. I use some side-chain compression to let the kick come through. And a tiny bit of Glue compression on the master - well, to glue all parts a bit together. But I think about removing the latter thing after watching this video. I've seen a video where the dude told: "Well, now we go to the multiband compression. This is a nice stage to completely ruin your mixes". And since I'm always afraid of ruining my work, I refuse to use multiband compression. In most cases, you can leave damn hard compression out of your production. The main aspects to avoid it are sound selection, giving each instrument its own pocket and treating the source before throwing random effects and compressors onto the tracks. This helped me a lot.
@liketobe274310 ай бұрын
I am producing with ableton since 12 Years. My main problem is: Right ear: 80% hearing, most decrease on the higher frequencies; Left ear: 12 % hearing, nearly deaf for everything below like 2000 Hz... don't know if this is causing my issue i have in production. Most of the time i used to just throw everything in which sounded good to me, not following any rules. Just started like 2 years ago of improving on my techniques. But compression is my biggest issue. I am usually only using side chain compression to duck whats needed to be ducked. But create a clean and not interfering sound which has its location in the "Room" of the Track is so hard for me. Also snappy crystal clear but not loud percussion are so incredibly hard to do for me. Idk. I can hear it. but i cant make it. I am not trying on my monitors so far, since my room isn't ideal at all. Going to build a studio, my new flat has a perfect room for it, so i will do, even if i end up not using it because with headphones it feels like i can make a way more true mix (for me) then with monitors, because i can trick my brain with headphones to believe to differentiate between left and right signal better on headphones so they sound the same left and right. But could be because my room was so shitty so far i was not able to use my HS8. But yeah I always noticed, if i compress my Elements in different ways so i can get more presents and better Isolated sounds, but overall my mix was worse and lost some depth. Yes I can hear some elements better, but its mostly because they grab my attention because of cliping transients.. If I use ableton stock compressor so my transients are not clipping i cant hear anymore that the elements are well defined. I think EQ-ing i am pretty good at it, its basically about boosting where the "charakter" of the Element is, while decreasing the same range in corresponding sound. But in the end, i am producing with an error, since my hearing is pretty bad, i sometimes use a references. in the end i just put some dynamic eqs (Fabfilter) on my mix and i have my standard EQ before the limiter to lower my "hear not so good" Region, which basically looks like an OTT.
@mauromantovani593710 ай бұрын
I agree about the OTT part. The rest is just trying to prove a point for a clickbait title by deliberately misusing one of the most valuable tools in music production. Not helpful for beginners, and can generate a lot of confusion about an already hard to grasp concept.
@boimesa819010 ай бұрын
beginners shouldnt be used by beginners
@mageprometheus10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Love and light 💜
@CarlyonProduction10 ай бұрын
Oh my god you always post what I’m thinking! And you look 🔥 with blonde hair!
@kuusteist10 ай бұрын
Such a bad take. Sure, learn to use compressors before you use them, otherwise you'll make stuff worse, especially as a beginner. Transient shapers can take on some duty from compressors. However first start with how there are different compressor types and you use different types for different roles. If you take loops from a pack then odds are that they are already compressed and shouldn't be compressed further. The right threshold level, attack and release are crucial for getting compressors to work, not to mention the skilled ear of hearing or rather feeling the effect. Also trying to squeeze harmonics out of a sine is a fools errant. Bus compression is great for gluing different elements together into a coherent and groovy loop. La-2a type compressor is great for adding warmth to a digital sounding synthesizer. Saturation is a form of compression in itself and if you need it use it however it can also muddy the mix if overused.
@xanjelx10 ай бұрын
compressors are best used to control the dynamic range by pushing sounds forward or backwards in the mix imo.
@xanjelx10 ай бұрын
@@focusdecorating3637 it's all about practice, innit
@focusdecorating363710 ай бұрын
Not in my experience. If you dont know what your doing then no amount of practice will help.@@xanjelx
@focusdecorating363710 ай бұрын
Seriously though mate, there is a 10-hour video on youtube about compression. Its the most complicated single subject I have come across in music by a million miles.@@xanjelx
@DJAdalaide10 ай бұрын
No need to compress a synth unless you want the reverb tail/delay tail in your face, apart from that its good for vocals since there is too much dynamics usually
@DJAdalaide10 ай бұрын
@@naughtyducky6325 So if its a saw wave, or a square wave, or whatever, what exactly is compression doing? Its not making it louder, the volume is constant so what is the point of compressing?
@subschnee457310 ай бұрын
If you do you own percussion with lots of noise coming from the OSC sections or you're using samples as a source a compressor is handy. Same goes for any synthlines with filter modulation going on, FM or such. ITB maybe not that obvious that with hardware TBF.
@francobuzzetti94249 ай бұрын
omg i loved the ott on the reverb!! i have a question for the audio nerds: everyone keeps giving ott hate for its phase related stuff, wouldn't that be an issue in all multiband processors like saturn or pro mb?
@wendellhomem748510 ай бұрын
Nice video Alice !! As always with usefull tips. Regards from a brazilian producer !!!
@TraxtasyMedia10 ай бұрын
what I figured out during my some years of doing music for myself is this: only using most important things like reverb, delay and compression on BUS channels. This knowledge really improved my skills by far. So having a compressor on the Master only makes sense, when the mixdown is not that good and you want to tickle the last bits out of your mix before you finally bounce it. And yes, I've come this far to reach the point, where I only imply compression very sublte, just in case the mix does not really match my expectations.
@sac560810 ай бұрын
yeah i felt kind of weird not using compressors i thought i just didnt know how to use them. i only use them to shape snares. i just use "parallel compression" with distortion, soft clippers, or maximus saturation which i know is a compressor and is compression but i dont use it as intended. also i use transient shaper because i don't understand what compressors are for lol but music sounds good too me
@misterphb218310 ай бұрын
Hi Alice, Really important content you give us. I am fan of arturia comp, so what you showed was really "in my zone" and yes how many times did I took off tracks from group in order to hear them as they were originally before I ruined them with tons of tools. Next step for my technical progression, check the effects of plugin in a span window! Thanks!
@Alice-Efe10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! ❤
@mantax5510 ай бұрын
I love the overall logic in this video regarding dynamics but is the point not lost when post MEs master to -10 LUFS or more even?
@ggaabb_10 ай бұрын
11:42 No matter how many yucky faces you make I think that sounds better with compression xD
@MOSMASTERING10 ай бұрын
Hey, its me again! Big fan.. lol I have a techno track that I finished in December during a collab with a good friend of mine... I am seriously happy with all the ideas and sounds... but even after my near 20 years producing, mixing and mastering.... I feel like it needs a 3rd party "ear" to listen to it and polish it to be release ready.. would you care to take the stems and turn it into a step by step "fix-the-mix" episode?! I feel like I can't wait a few weeks until I get that 'refresh' effect, where you can hear all the mistakes after a while away from the project and knock it slowly into shape. It's a good track that just needs finishing. I'm sure you've got a lot of ideas lined up for the channel... But.... if you don't ask... Anyway... keep up the good work :)
@konstantinepope10 ай бұрын
Once again Alice is 100% on point, hats off!
@truthministry.10 ай бұрын
The amounts of really nice sounding tracks I have been disappointed with after coming back from a mastering session and it's loud but lost all of its dynamic range.
@spiritlevelstudios10 ай бұрын
Master it yourself, it takes 15 minutes.
@truthministry.10 ай бұрын
@@spiritlevelstudios I have a very bad room, you can't mix a cake in there, so mastering it there would be a waste of time. Mixes from that room don't translate well at all.
@PolymerJones9 ай бұрын
What is your method for clean and distinct sub bass so it hits hard and it’s not muddy
@erikbosgra177510 ай бұрын
It's an eye opening video for me 🧡🔥
@morgan010 ай бұрын
yeah that tiny amount of harmonics on the compressor reminds me of something i was thinking about yesterday, that a lot of times, analog modeling plugins are so focused on accuracy that they make something that's only subtly nonlinear, the original gear was designed to be high quality after all. whereas i prefer using and making stuff that can be a lot more obvious, and lets you dial in the right amount. and going after accuracy at all costs also feeds into magical gear syndrome, where people think its some magical gear that made good music good, not it being from a time where there were a lot more filters and having money was a lot more relevant. maybe they really knew that synth or effect really really well because they only had that one for anything of that kind, only one synth, limited effects, etc. or maybe they were good because they could pay for a thousand dollar piece of gear and music lessons and whatever. but it's not magical gear. sure the pultec boost and cut at the same time sounds good, but it's a nonlinear parallel second order lowpass (or reeaaaally close to one), and stuff that does vaguely the same thing will also sound good (check out surge's bonsai's bass boost, for my accidentally similar dsp). so why make something that emulates the original really accurately but still isn't as good as a paid competitor or isn't much better than a free one, when you could make something similar but different, with more control over the eq and nonlinearity, to make it as dirty and obvious as you want.
@KuraSourTakanHour10 ай бұрын
So the take-away is, use compression to bring out the unique point of your instruments or sounds and not just make every frequency come close together
@_BangDroid_10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Use compressors for what they were made for. Stop following post-apocalyptic loudness-war trends.
@bbbhuyan10 ай бұрын
A perfect video about compressor and the way to use it smartly!
@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole10 ай бұрын
I can't believe I've compressed my life away! Oh, well. Now that I've calmed down, I guess it's time to de-compress.
@blaizet760010 ай бұрын
Are you saying that potentially using transient shapers, and maybe volume automation might be better for louder mixes than compression ?
@JZ_Strings10 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@adriengrosjean630010 ай бұрын
I agree on some of the things you said BUT jugding the quality of an audio processing by LOOKING at the waveform is like judging the quality of a painting by tasting the paint
@mauhu10 ай бұрын
with compression you should really take it on a case by case basis. What can destroy one sound may improve the other, so blindly using it without understanding what it does will probably make a track worse. On the other side, if you never use it you're definitely missing out, and decreasing the potential of your tracks.
@spiritlevelstudios10 ай бұрын
Ye. It's essential for placing the kick and bass consistently, just don't overdo it.
@notsure113510 ай бұрын
OTT on the bass only with me.
@nicoschmitt985710 ай бұрын
ever since i got my Bayerdynamics DT1990 Pros, i literally stopped using compression. Most drum sounds are pre compressed anyway. And i'm killing dynamic range with a hard clipper at the end of my mixing sessions
@onaucc989910 ай бұрын
Over-processing in general i feel like is really bad. I worked in FL Studio exclusively for 15 years, so only digital, and processed pretty much every sound i used. Recently though, i got the Novation Circuit Rhythm and due to it's nature as a sampler, i just draged and dropped in the samples and started working with them in there. Pretty much unprocessed. And the results sound so much better / more interesting. Way more organic, without really sacrificing the "modern" sound.
@Auran_JFmusic10 ай бұрын
Helpful as always, thank you Alice
@BFHPET10 ай бұрын
9:59 how to automate the knob to the macro
@JayVucci10 ай бұрын
Loved it ✌🏼
@JonasFasching10 ай бұрын
Very nice insight! Thank you 😊
@MG-gu3qx10 ай бұрын
something i always ask myself: kick, cymbals and bass in one group, compress each of them seperate + then bus compress them together? or only kick + cymbals in one group and bass seperate? and if bus compress why or how much cause each instrument is anyway compressed already (isnt it too much).. :D what is the correct way? can someone help? thanks a lot!
@Zrokool12310 ай бұрын
It seems apparent that it's not compressors that are ruining your songs, but the lack of understanding on how to set them up correctly and properly eq your tracks that's actually doing the damage. I find that using a visual compressor like neutron's compressor kinda helped fill the knowledge gap of how parameters actually work. I agree though, a transient shaper is sometimes more effective and way easier.
@DJamal180310 ай бұрын
I like this point of view Compressors nowdays helps in a rare and specific cases In most cases i use soft clipper or transient shappers or something more specific Audio enginnering like programming simple solutions better than complex one lIKE take VCA Com[re AND some WAVES RVOX etc It's simple marketing
@matthewjackson870910 ай бұрын
Impact from surreal machines for transient shaping and so much more.
@cryspimusic10 ай бұрын
Amazing advice!
@PolymerJones9 ай бұрын
All my mixes are over compressed and crowded
@EximiusDux10 ай бұрын
In 2004 i used a DAW capable of running VST, automatic ducking and a lot more. In 2007 i used a DAW capable of almost anything which people expect from a DAW in 2024. That DAW from 2007 even allowed me to load in complete videos to a track, cut up the video and use the cuts as vocal chops or samples which could be freely dragged around. 3 more years and that would be a thing from 20 years ago. 😉
@FlufLord10 ай бұрын
“if you don’t know how to use them” this is key
@0711RC10 ай бұрын
I love your advice! Thanks!
@rockerzattack10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much awesome work i am looking for leveling masterclass (NOT GAIN STAGE) MIXER leveling for dance music house and all 😊👍
@DJamal180310 ай бұрын
i have a one greate tool for me IF I DON"T know reason to use something i don't use it
@bidulgiinstrumentals10 ай бұрын
We are one. 💚
@naughtyducky632510 ай бұрын
I agree with the OTT I hardly ever use it, it’s very situational for me. not sure why a lot of people think it’s sounds so good, even considering the additional gain, on most things is just makes them sound really tinny and brittle, removes far too much midrange 🤮.
@BradyBeatsandTheTokenGirl8 ай бұрын
Compressors on compressors for the win
@giannipetrocelli4728 ай бұрын
Look at the wave before using a compressor in dance music often isn't needed
@alexursu56310 ай бұрын
compressors dont ruin songs, compressors are a wonderful tool, people who don't know how and when to use compressors ruin songs. Enjoyed the video though
@doomsdaytuther509510 ай бұрын
How do my ears make sound comparisons while you have that background music playing
@laurentiuionutvita10 ай бұрын
took me like 15 years to understand that I was overcompressing :D
@boseiyere67363 ай бұрын
Have always knew this ... But my twin brother will never listen to me when I tell him
@ClaudeYoung10 ай бұрын
Great video Alice!!!
@tKcs210 ай бұрын
Ott is really good for weird dubstep sound design
@Punk_Mayhem10 ай бұрын
sorry for just commenting just after listening the two examples,so, the second example of the piece literally sounds like the soul of those pieces of music has been cruelly crushed and demolished! lets see, what’s coming next. ❤❤❤❤
@jonnewman237210 ай бұрын
For me. Compression, is the only tool that I dont understand. I understand every other plugin and what they do and can use them (within my own capabilities) but Compression...........I just dont get it. I undertand what they are, but I dont know how and when to use them.
@TommyWashow10 ай бұрын
well id figure it out cause its the most useful. if you dont know how and when to use them then you dont understand what they are
@circles7910 ай бұрын
I agree. The whole sidechain compression fad is getting so tired, whenever I hear it in a track I skip it, because it's just such a lazy trick. Compression is often best used sparingly, if at all. When I hear a track that has dynamics intact, my ears perk up. please less click baity vids though. Obviously compression isn't the devil. It's just too much of a good thing that makes it suffer.
@OrionRahl10 ай бұрын
On the first example and with repeated listens with my eyes closed, I still hear a difference in punchiness. Nothing perceptible to me in the second example.
@justinhoffman111110 ай бұрын
its simple - compressors dont ruin your songs, you do..... no tools actually ruin your mix - you ruin your own mix because you dont know what your doing! lol
@mauhu10 ай бұрын
yeah I think that's what she means, but using a more provocative title gets more engagement
@JayVucci10 ай бұрын
I agree with her. I can’t imagine a man saying this!
@johnsuggs782810 ай бұрын
2nd one sounds slightly wider and fuller
@shari_841010 ай бұрын
Thats one of the Reasons , why Electronic Music sounds so flat , pressureles, and Earpained today .. In Production Process using heaps and heaps of Compression , Then in The Mastering once again pull down the Threshold of the Limiter ...and on Top of all that Destroyes the anwys sausage Wavefile into a ugly Mp3 File .. As Kai Tracid was saying in his Masterclass ..He never ever was used a single Compressor on his single Tracks ,exept for Mastering .
@xcelox121910 ай бұрын
Compressors dont ruin your mix, you do.
@smuram10 ай бұрын
I ruin my song just without compressors!I ruin them just like a man!
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew10 ай бұрын
compression should be used subtly, unless you are using it as an effect. it helps even out the audio. if you're using a compressor to get tone or color than you are using it as an effect and not really using it as a compressor. that's how i view compression in all genres and any instance. Parallel compression on drums is pretty commonly used in metal and rock music these days. almost on every single new release that comes out has it. OTT is evil. i don't use it, i find it very trashy
@makebaduploadanyway823310 ай бұрын
Nice
@Alice-Efe10 ай бұрын
Cheers
@cjgoeson10 ай бұрын
1:50. This is just wrong and misleading. 😢 The added harmonics are at their max when the amount of gain reduction is changing. You will not see it with a sine wave of constant amplitude.
@cjgoeson10 ай бұрын
Go ahead and pulse that same sine wave with an 8th note trance gate and look again.
@Alice-Efe10 ай бұрын
Here you go: www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ttm2hu7n60t1njwhqpz8j/h?rlkey=prgn9gvehl2axundka04n53gz&dl=0 (Both FET and VCA because you are most likely using one of these on drums) The amount of harmonic saturation you get from compressors are insignificant most of the time. (The only case that really makes sense is newyork compression but even then, just use your stock compressor in your DAW and add a distortion/saturation on the chain and you will be still getting better harmonic saturation) The case even more insignificant if you are making electronic dance music because nobody is going to hear that -72 gb single harmonic in a busy mix. Obviously we need compressors for dynamics control and it has its place on mix. Nobody is arguing that. The rant here is about plugin companies' marketing trick to make producers believe that their compressor has a sauce that will make their songs much better. They use this trick over and over again and I'm sick and tired of it. I don't want beginner and intermediate producers in our community to spend tons of money on snake oil marketing terms. If you want audible warmth just use saturation and you are much better off.
@cjgoeson10 ай бұрын
I take your point that you can get more saturation and get it more directly by simply using a saturator. My point is orthogonal, which is that you don’t see the full saturation of a compressor by simply running through a sine wave. Thanks for the video!
@cjgoeson10 ай бұрын
Oh and by the way, transient chapters add harmonics also, and for the same reason.
@OversampledSecretLab10 ай бұрын
What are you smoking that you've typed these words in the title?
@giammy_nuraghe10 ай бұрын
Loving LOST cit at 2:40 =D
@markkilley268310 ай бұрын
Can suck the dynamics out of the music.
@digitalbeat66610 ай бұрын
I agree OTT makes every track sound crappier
@antondhondt985110 ай бұрын
Compressors can't ruin, only illiterate "prods" are culprits. Compressors are very demanding in education terms - one got to know what is FET, OPTO and so on. The fields of their appliance (snappy FET compressors for rock music, for example). It is the territory of audio engineers - an ordinary, badly educated prod with non-trained ears will just fail with proper tunings. The only way-out for prods with ticky-tacky hands/ears is to use PRESETS (yeah, I know that ordinary prods are very afraid of this word!) - nowadays even freeware compressors have excellent presets for gentle mixing, upward compression, drums squeeze and so on.
@PatrikČerný-n3u3 ай бұрын
Alice is Angel
@arnolddawson574710 ай бұрын
compressors amongst other things are for shaping. limiters are for shaving off wayward transients. Dont know where to start with this. Does seem like an excuse to make a video. Doesn't explain why you would do things.
@sawssman96510 ай бұрын
These thumbnails...
@deafalienzulu10 ай бұрын
⭐
@BukezFinezt10 ай бұрын
You're saying it yourself. "Put the focus on the wrong things!" Your title makes certain people assume exactly that and start to stay away from compressors. It is not the plugins. It clearly is misinformation from as you said brands and a TON of beginner youtubers (not talking about you though ;) ) who take about the magic tricks their idols use and bla blad ... it makes beginners think "YOU NEED THIS PLUGIN WITH THIS TECHNIQUE TO BE THE NEXT SKRILLEX, DIPLO, DISCLOSURE, IAN KIRKPATRICK or whoever. Why not leave the whole clickbait bullcrap out and focus on teaching people the right ways and techniques. Also I think you do not need a Transient Shaper if you take time to learn how to use a compressor right!!
@808chadda10 ай бұрын
I love the blonde look 😍
@AledesChica10 ай бұрын
Good video
@Alice-Efe10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@glennfordsolinap860610 ай бұрын
oh no... Virtual RioTT 😭
@Alice-Efe10 ай бұрын
Haha he can do anything and it will sound good! 😅
@Nebvla10 ай бұрын
But ott
@eroero83010 ай бұрын
reeeeee snake oil (b sounded better both times)
@joeydelmarsjr.64610 ай бұрын
i bet shes packing something extra :)
@jensschettler17326 ай бұрын
The tutorial are good. But your cuts are way too much. Every second something new. And your accent is really hard to follow. But thanks for your tips. They are really good.