Yamaha MT-09 SP | The Best Motorcycle of 2024?

[@The.JZA.]

I thought about getting an MT09 SP when I got my full licence but given that I was upgrading from a Duke 390, I thought the MT09 would be too much of a handful so I decided to go for the CB650R and managed to get a deal on a brand new 2022 model that had been sitting in the shop for a while. Done a few upgrades including the most recent, an Akrapovic exhaust. Sounds amazing! A mate of mine got the XSR900 GP recently. Definitely a faster bike but the CB650R is no slouch, just gotta rev it harder but it rewards when you do and still plenty of mid-range punch. One day I might look at getting an MT09 but I think I still have a lot of learning and developing skills to do before I get a machine like that. Even in your video you were getting the wheel up just by touching the throttle. That's too much for an intermediate rider I think.

[@morri03]

SP = Sports Production. Dates back to the formula 3 bikes from Japan in the late 80s and early 90s. They were 250 2 strokes and 400 four strokes and the Sports Production variants included changes useful for racing like a close ratio gearbox, more adjustable suspension etc..

[@Englishbikerdan]

I think Sexy Peregrine sounds better. :D

[@chriswest2290]

I have a gen 3. the engine is a masterpiece. handling is bit goofy. its no focused race bike. but amazing fun.

[@ianmason3040]

SP - Smelly Pants 👍

[@Englishbikerdan]

Love it.

[@majordelays4909]

Shit (my) Pants

[@matemarijan3795]

This bike is amazing with Akrapovič exhaust

[@AfaqDraw]

A nice morning for an English Biker Dan vid

[@rustworks2588]

💯

[@devilmaycry383]

I currently have the 2024 SP i like the silver paint work, and it rides nicely. I am considering moving to the R9, but i hope they do an R1-M style paint job down the line.

[@nigeldean3315]

MT09SP brakes are much softer despite Brembo Stylemar calipers fitted they persist putting cheap rubber brake pipes on where as STRS has steel braided pipes fitted possibly why there is a difference in performance

[@Juuul89]

The Street triple's stylemas have different pads and it has a different master cylinder with a different piston ratio. The initial bite is 100% due to those 2 factors. Braking feel is more difficult story, brake lines, ABS system, pads, MC, MC to caliper piston ratio etc etc. Japanese brands almost always choose a less agressive pad, probably for safety reasons. Caliper pistons on both the SP and regular MT are both 30mm :).

[@Englishbikerdan]

Interesting, and thanks for the info. Can you provide your sources, would love to know more.

[@shanebuttress6274]

Triumph probably has bigger discs too.

[@DB-sd3cw]

Daaaaang he said site yo sources or pipe down

[@Jacob99174]

Steel braided hoses?

[@wernerxldata]

@@shanebuttress6274yup, 310 vs 298

[@mikeharris7905]

Nice review EBD, brother has the R1. He also has a bit more exhaustable income than I have. I think this bike would be a great bike for my pocketbook. Good review!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thanks Mike, R1 is crackers!

[@Ni3K]

I test rode the base model and the brakes are very good, I would get it over the SP with a wilbers shock, have more color options and no stupid keyless BS for less money.

[@zalujevi]

sp-special project

[@pistolpete6321]

Great review!

[@zyghom]

I have this engine in my Tracer 9 GT - I am shocked how nice it is

[@Englishbikerdan]

It's great eh!

[@dougalmanzar]

Have a 24SP ( previously had 22SP). Bike is near perfect 🤩. Your review spot on good and not so good items. Above all really is magically FUN. And as owner of the Triumph and Yammi , I would agree it’s the best in class all things considered. My Street triple RS is sportier overall, more serious and but not necessarily playful . SP= Sneaky Pecker! 😉

[@markstevens7442]

Hi, I'm thinking of getting this latest mt09 sp next year. I like sporting riding with a couple of track days thrown in. I'm concerned about the mt09 handling under hard acceleration as the videos I've watched all show this light front end I know it's one of the bikes characteristics but just wondering if you thought the xsr900 2025 would be more stable? Cheers 😊

[@dougalmanzar]

@@markstevens7442 Okay, a few things: Adjusting suspension to get proper sag and rebound/compression is definitely a worthwhile step in terms of ensuring the chassis is balanced as the overall stance of bike places more weight rearward as delivered. Less so than the 21-23 model though). That's a step missing in every review. Once set up well, the bike can be ridden really hard( fast mountain rd/track day) with total confidence. Now is the front end it as planted feeling as a Street triple RS ? Not quite. Though the tradeoff is greater agility and ease of use. Its a really good compromise. As far as XRS9, that does have a longer wheelbase and lower more forward handlebars which taken together make it stable feeling than an mt09 though the suspension/brakes are inferior now compared to a 24 SP and even a std 24 MT. cheers mate!

[@markstevens7442]

Hi Dougal, i just wanted to say thanks for replying to my question. Im deciding between the xsr900 2025, xsr900 gp and the mt09 sp. Hopefully I like the mt09 as it's probably the best value here in NewZealand. Thanks again for the info, cheers Mark@dougalmanzar

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

The new CB1000Hornet SP edition will put a dent in the sales of this bike at £9,999. Much simpler electronics granted but tempting for buyers still.

[@StereotypedFilms]

Not really.. The MT is a much more fun ride, with the 3 cylinder engine. inline fours are so boring on the road.

[@TheMicroricky]

Its a great upgrade indeed, but it wont be better than an mt 09 . This new mt 09 is just absurdly good in everything..

[@fyorbane]

@@StereotypedFilmsYou cannot make that asumption yet. The new Hornet has a whopping 150 hp plus. It looks much nicer than the Marmite MT 09. So try again.

[@wernerxldata]

@@fyorbaneFun is not measured in hp 😊 It’s the sweet spot of all combined properties that creates fun factor. The MT09 SP is quite hard to beat at the moment.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I think it will too. I still think the CP3 engine is more engaging than the lump Honda are using which will be really similar to the older CB1000R. Still, it's good to have more choice!

[@carlbaumfield1549]

Great video im tempted to buy this but im torn between 3 bikes being the mt09 the 990 duke (ive got the 2024 790 duke now), and the z900 kawasski which i seen at the nec bikeshow. Last week. Great vidro and review

[@didaddy]

Cracking review Dan. Would the XSR 900 with the longer swingarm be less flighty and planted than the MT 09?

[@cloudcata8300]

Well it's a good thing it's 2024 because Honda just brought the Hornet 1000 for less money with more power and an extra cyl. Can't wait to try both and see whats' the winner as my second bike in the summer of 2025

[@Englishbikerdan]

The Honda should be good. More choice is great for consumers!

[@xB0RNFR0MPAINx]

"Kitchen apliance" LOL!

[@Alan-cg8gx]

Special Price or Small Prick.

[@Jacob99174]

Didn’t you already make an SP vs RS comparison, 3 months ago?

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah. This was filmed before that vid.

[@jasonwood6100]

SP = Sport Production

[@majordelays4909]

Serious Person

[@SomewhereInside]

Sarcastic Person😊

[@samuelgillard2196]

SP = Shiny Paint 😊

[@abdulhbaw]

Dan will you be riding the Hornet 1000 sp next? Would love to hear your comparison for both.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I hope so, not sure when though and I'm sure a million other journo's/youtubers will also want a go!

[@adiohead]

Just needs a new exhaust. Wish they'd do an XSR900 version of the SP.

[@Jacob99174]

This

[@sambagogo777]

SP evidently stands for Singular Paintjob! A boneheaded decision if ever there was. As for the same brakes not feeling as good as they do on the ST765RS then Michael Neeves has previously commented that a common shortcoming of Japanese bikes persisting to this day is the software implementation of ABS systems relative to how well the established European manufacturers commonly do it.

[@SirMountainpass]

Will upgrade my 2026 SP with braided steel brake lines and track / road brake pads in the way I did with my current 2020 SP - perfect on the track as well as up and down some serious mountain passes 😎✌️🏁

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah seems to be the case.

[@clarklimbaugh822]

I've had a deposit down on one of these bad boys for several months now, they are pretty much impossible to come by here in the states as of right now. My dealership still doesn't even have an estimated arrival date for one 😢

[@Maverick-moto]

I REALLY feel for you buddy. Here in the UK, I ordered mine in early September with an estimated delivery of mid to late October… Within 7 days, they phoned to say it had arrived 😳 I’m not sure whether the situation has changed, but our biggest problem here right now is the wholesale closure of dealerships - even my supplying dealer ! It’s happening with a variety of manufacturers, generally NOT Yamaha. Hang on in there, it’s WELL worth the wait

[@1974leszek]

Hi Dan , can I ask you what exactly is your shark helmet name? Is any good?

[@Englishbikerdan]

D-Skwal 2. It's okay, but there's now much safer lids out there with EC 22.06.

[@rustworks2588]

Yesss Dan!!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@tonykordakis5814]

I traded my 22 T9GT for a standard MT09 cause I thought my bike was too dang big. I really miss all that wind and weather protection. What would you think of moving onto a 750 transalp?

[@Mike_P646]

Stock brake pads aren't the best, changing them will improve the feel

[@gmbmedia28]

Choosing between the MT09SP or the ZH2 as my next bike

[@clubstyleridahd4695]

ZH2 would be insane!

[@StereotypedFilms]

Not really the same type of bike... Or price for that matter. If you can afford the ZH2.. go for it. Insane piece of kit.

[@Bunter1815]

SP - Seared Perineum

[@anneakhil1998]

Brother i am from india here the mt09 base or sp is sure to cost 30% to 40% more than the street triple r which i locked on so how different are the two i agree the yam have nicest dash but i dont need those gizmos nor do i want mental madness this is my first big bike so i want a smooth low end a midrange punch for fun and a linear delivery so is it ok of i buy the st3 r for now and later when yamaha did price the mt09 right i can use the st3 till when mt09 comes at a discount and buy both the mt09 and tenre 700 together and bag a good deal or the st3 is a good bike that i can just buy and buy a tenre 700 cause my indian roads def need a tenre for me to ride carelessly but at present i want a hughway and corner craver so decided on st3 but also word is mt09 will come to india soon too but will be priced sky high due to import charges

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

The Ducati multistrada V2 is a touring bike but the MT09 is completely different but the V2 engine has 115 bhp but the engine torque that the MT09 has but there’s a new Ducati street fighter V2 with 120 bhp and the same engine torque as before the bike Overall weight is 178 kg and that depends on which model you buy but the engine power doesn’t change unless you buy the street fighter V4 this being the brand new one which has 215 bhp the same as the new panigale V4 and there’s not much difference between them in price the question I am wondering if there’s any difference between them when you ride them and hopefully you might test them at some point and then I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on both bikes

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

I will be interested to see your review of the new Honda hornet 1000SP and the the standard version of the hornet 1000 they are different bikes

[@The.JZA.]

I think SP just means "special" but it's just a guess. ChatGPT thinks it stands for "Sport Performance".

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

You said that you tested the MT09 in Lanzarote earlier this year I live in Lanzarote and the roads are really very good until it rains because there’s not much rain so they are very slippy the roads for that reason but when the roads are dry they are very good did you go right to the north of Lanzarote the reason for asking is that there’s a very good coastal road that goes right to the end of Lanzarote and it’s a good road for motor bikes and there’s no speed cameras I have seen a lot of motor bikes on that road even on a week day but over the weekend there’s a lot of people with motor bikes here

[@The.JZA.]

I reckon Yamaha purposefully made the exhaust cheap because they know most people will put a better exhaust on it. No point spending too much on an exhaust that will find itself in the scrap metal pile.

[@choompa]

Inseam is important.

[@davidgreen4349]

I hope your able to get your hands on 2025 Z900 soon for comparison

[@Englishbikerdan]

Me too!

[@Halo00yingyang]

In my opinion, Street Triple RS 765 Still the best of the year.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I can see why people like that bike. It just lacks the hooligan factor for me.

[@1974leszek]

@@Englishbikerdan

[@thodoris3790]

I would go for the new hornet

[@davidmallia628]

Yes,but pending the reviews. The new hornet 1000 would have to be made for real road riding with strong low, and mid range, in line with how the MT09 rides.

[@thodoris3790]

Fuck the revieus.they are profesional youtubers.dont trust them

[@SirMountainpass]

@@davidmallia628 My agile and optimized 2020 SP (181,5 kgs wet, 118,6 whp) is able to give the MT10 SP a run for its money on any serious mountain pass. The new 1000 Hornet is a fine new Honda motorbike but not as much at ease in the Alps as a pro-tuned SP in experienced hands.

[@StereotypedFilms]

Such a boring engine, though.. You have to give it a lot of beans.

[@davidmallia628]

@@StereotypedFilms let us see when it is tested. They might have mapped it with low down torque, but it would be difficult to replicate the power delivery of the MT09 with a four cylinder engine.

[@damacknificent151]

Suspension performance

[@swedeinla]

pillion???

[@lamincamara8360]

Sp=special production

[@Englishbikerdan]

Silly Potato?

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

Very good video and review of the bike but the Honda hornet 1000SP is something that I am looking at or the triumph 765R two reasons both the triumph and the Honda have exhausts you can see and they sound better than the MT-09SP and they are better looking bikes

[@Englishbikerdan]

Subjective points there Fraser, but it's always good to have more choice! Thank you for watching.

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

You’re very welcome and I actually find your videos very interesting but to hear other peoples opinion on the other motor bikes because I have found not every gives the same opinion the same motor bike so I do a bit of research and then I make decision as to what works for me

[@allnighterist]

SP means Single Parent

[@peterturner830]

Yamaha just need to fix the front end as that is it’s weakest link.

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

Best bike of 2025 will without be the triumph tiger sport 800

[@spectralsoldier1239]

SP = sausage party.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yes! 😂

[@Moomoocowmeoww]

This is more expensive than the cb650r with e-clutch...yamaha totally lost the plot

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yes, as it's in a different class. CB650R competes with MT07.

[@roadrunner5555]

Sp = scandalous price. Compared to 1000 hornet ..not many be sold .stop ripping people of yamaha

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

You were saying that you’re Yamaha tracer 9 has the same engine as the MT09 what I would buy instead is the Ducati multistrada V2 which is a very good touring bike and I know a few people who have them and they are very pleased with them

[@Englishbikerdan]

I was disappointed with the Multi V2. Engine needed a LOT of revs to get going. CP3 engine feels so much more punchy.

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

There’s a brand new V2 engine for the Ducati motor bikes

[@thodoris3790]

I dont like the sound of cp3.i like the cp4,or a regular 4cylinder liter motor

[@SirMountainpass]

One of the odd few 😅✌️

[@davewestsk8]

I prefur a twin sound personaly

[@gsm_liv8980]

Thanks for sharing

[@Englishbikerdan]

I don't like pork. It's not the taste but how it affects my bowel movements. Yowzers.

[@thodoris3790]

@davewestsk8 surely an 890 or a t120 sounds much better