Yamaha virago starter clutch issue, how to check your starter clutch. Part 1.

[@dboyyarris4811]

After 6 weeks of rebuilding my bandit 600 I had it running today for the first time bought as non runner still needs loads doing but she sounds mint.👍

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Oh really, that's great. I like a bandit. Super reliable. I've had plenty 600s and 1 1200.

[@dboyyarris4811]

@@motorcyclerescuer I've wanted one since they came out😆 bargain at £400. Yeh I seen a couple on this channel sultan had a 400 at one point I think, been following you for a while now bud. Told my miss it's your fault I got the bike she's not a happy bunny. It's in the dinning room 🤣

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Ha ha ha that's brilliant. I'll be sure not to bump into her anytime soon then.

[@tomcrozier8727]

Sounds exactly what,s happened to mine. Thanks for sharing

[@motorcyclerescuer]

The starter clutch? It's a common fault in these. Repair kits are responsibly priced now days which is great.

[@Kyeelki2006]

Amazing channel first place I come to when I have an issue with my bike 😂

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Lol I've had my fair share of bike issues

[@robertadams4415]

You are doing the right thing Charlie it's the only thing to go

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Thursdays vid will show the progression, if there is any lol. Cheers Robert

[@oldman8638]

Hi mate it's been a long time since I've watched any videos think the last time I watched you had a white bandit nice to see your still doing your thing makes me smile to see good people helping others

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Thanks old man. Honestly I'm just doing my thing at my garage anyway so throw up the vids for fun. Some people enjoy them and some dislike them. Cheers mate

[@oldman8638]

I think people who dislike just don't get what you're doing and why you do it please don't lose heart with people who don't understand your channel

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Appreciate your support. Thanks for the advice.

[@mestep511]

Like this channel. This is how most of work. No 100,000 lumen 1 acre shop.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Hi Mike. Yes sadly no shop for me mate. No power at all actually lol. I would love just one power socket. But yes I like to work loose and on the floor ect to show people that the stuff can be done at home with basic tools. Thanks for watching and commenting mate. Appreciate it. Charlie

[@Rollie961]

Thanks for sharing you will get it sorted. I guess the starter clutch must be a common fault hence the upgrade

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Yes definitely common. They didn't use lock tight on the bolts from factory which leads to this issue

[@springy-2112]

Ha, I broke you tube! it mixed up the order. ( I am just trying to boost the comments for the algorithm)🤗

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Lol, great job springy

[@1greenkeeper]

Great video Charlie good bit of detective work buddy hope you can locate the missing bolt's fingers crossed Charlie.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Cheers Colin. Tomorrows vid will show the conclusion I believe

[@ry491]

Normally just fitting new springs and rollers in the starter clutch cures it for quite a while . I have only done Hondas but I guess the yammy is similar . It's a cheap fix but usually works .

[@motorcyclerescuer]

New springs weren't needed in the end. The fix will be shown on Thursday. Cheers

[@TheAdrianNightingale]

Good to see some mechanical resolutions Charlie, congrats on the find

[@motorcyclerescuer]

I've never done a starter clutch but once in there it's fairly self explanatory. Cheers

[@anthonydavies3684]

Hi Charlie I've done loads of those ,,,I was shouting at the beginning,when your saying it looks fine🤔,,,,,,its behind the flywheel 🤣🤣🤣🤣lol

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Lol I was shouting at myself while editing. I've never seen this fault before to be fair. But like everything else it was fairly self explanatory.

[@susanmcmaster7894]

Ive been looking at a virago 750 to race my ailing kawasaki zl400 they look hellish complicated hope you can get this fixed I've got to go into my zl400 clutch as it's not working properly 😯

[@motorcyclerescuer]

The virago isn't to complicated and were very lucky to have so many helpful videos on KZbin now days. I always find v twins more complex then inlines though. I'm terrible with clutch plates, I always get something wrong lol, hopefully your better then me. Good luck with it

[@jeffrichardson54]

Just a note on the commutator surface, color. It looked like the brush path was a bluish color. This is perfect meaning the brush spring tension is perfect. Too weak brush spring tension will ultimately create pitting on the commutator segments . Too strong tension will cause the copper to remain bare and raw with even grooving into the segments. There is no real need to remove the bluing except cleaning excess oil, debris. The uneven commutator brush path around the circumference can indicate non drive bush wear if a bearing is not there, which means the rotor also needs to be inspected for internal POLING. polling will make an abrasive noise during starting. Check the brushes Too as some have a worn indicator line on them so the copper leads inside the brush don't hit the commutator and damage the comm.The commutator can be measured in low ohm values across every adjacent segment and check they are all the same value. Hope this is a little informative. Good luck

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Thanks Jeff, that's brilliant advice mate

[@memybikeni9931]

You didn’t really need to pull the plugs out to do that, with no stator cover fitted there is no pulse to the TCI or plugs as the pulser coil is fitted inside the cover along side the stator and needs the rotor to power it. Good find, you could clearly see the 2nd idler gear spinning and failing to engage on the starter clutch while you were trying to turn it over. Hope a new kit doesn’t set you back too much. A good second had one should be ok.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

I knew the plugs didn't need pulling. In the end it only needed new bolts as the originals had rattled loose. The starter clutch itself was in good condition. So only cost £10 roughly to fix. Thanks for watching

[@memybikeni9931]

@@motorcyclerescuer HT leads I meant, but no harm either way. So if those bolts were stripped/sheared, is the rotor ok, have you got to drill remaining threads out ?

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Have you not watched the catch up vids? The vid or 2 after this shows the full fix? All original nuts were recovered, no damage had been done to the threads thankfully and the new nuts were secured in by tapping the end of the bolts as they do in the factory and extra locktight was added which they don't do in the factory.

[@memybikeni9931]

@@motorcyclerescuer ah my bad, no haven’t got there yet, I’ll put a sock in it 😂 Good cheap easy fix then.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Lol no no worries at all, I enjoy the conversation and learn from others experience's. Yes on this occasion I got lucky otherwise I would have needed the kit. It's running beautifully now. Up for sake at £1250 but no takers yet.

[@MaNNeRz91]

Wd40 is good but I've been seeing some things lately using candle wax and some heat on here. 👀 I might have to try that out soon lol If you haven't got one. A proper impact driver will save you a bunch of hassle with the case screws and any other screws for that matter. You mash it with a hammer and it turns itself. One of the best tools I own. The gun is good for bigger bolts but screws and case bolts there's not enough forward impact 👍

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Good point. I've got a basic one but not a decent one. I'll look into it.

[@MaNNeRz91]

@@motorcyclerescuer if you've already got one you might just be ok getting some decent quality bits for it instead 🤷🏻‍♂️ some impact sockets for the gun too 👌 I'll see what I've got in my randoms box before I come up next. I killed too many chrome sockets I had to buy loads of impact 😂😂

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Cheers dude. It's a good point. I'll get online and see what's about. Hopefully the Harley will sell soon to help me back on track. I turned down 4k today but offered it at 4250. The guy was taking the mic so I said good luck finding one and stopped responding lol

[@MaNNeRz91]

@@motorcyclerescuer haha well played mate

[@timparker9235]

I remember it did sound off before, so nice to get to the bottom of it - any idea what could cause it? faulty design with lower strength bolts than it needs? or ham fisted owner ?

[@motorcyclerescuer]

It's very common. The bolts that hold the starter clutch to the rear of the stator housing rattle loose. They didn't use lock tight in the factory which is silly. I always wondered why this engine sounded rough. I think this starter clutch has been loose for a while causing the rattle. Bike runs and looks stunning now I've finished with it. It will be a cheap bike for someone

[@Alex-ij9pb]

Had same problem with my one but was even worse was fun getting that nut off too 🤪 I'm sure you will fix it in no time!

[@motorcyclerescuer]

In the end I had to use the gun on full setting with a specific torque socket. There is actually notches in the middle to hold the housing with an adjustable and you can then use a breaker bar if needed. But I love this Ryobi impact gun

[@Alex-ij9pb]

@@motorcyclerescuer yes there is I used a scaffold pole and ratchet with adjustable holding it steady it was very tight!. I would love a impact gun but also love to struggle 🤠

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Best tool I've ever bought

[@Eana-of-Sussex]

Hello there. Did you ever get this bike fixed? I cant find a follow on video from this one...

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Oh really, one moment let me try to find you a link. Yes I fixed it and still know the new owner. It's still going strong.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4uyq4qDqb2iaJosi=jwi0mnn_MQRxRyld This is part 2

[@motorcyclerescuer]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/roXLlWmErbGApNksi=X42yldrSoUy_cicw And this is part 3. Thanks for watching

[@Eana-of-Sussex]

Thank you. I'm doing this very job right now so I'm gleaning every and all information possible. Many thanks. X

[@springy-2112]

It seems to be a thing with yammy Vtwins. I went to look at a bt1100 at a used bike dealership. They knew I was coming to buy it. When I got there he said the starter clutch was knackered just like all of them ! I ended up buying an xjr1300 from him. That day. So why didn't they fix the bt1100? They were waiting for a buyer before they invested time and parts !! Sounds backwards to me. Any way I think you'll get the little virago fixed up and ship shape. All in good time. Peace and love brother ✌️🤗❤️

[@motorcyclerescuer]

It's not overly complex to fix so I agree they should have. They may have noticed last minute. The xjr1300 is a great bike

[@TheDavey333]

Hope you find what’s left of the screws, hopefully they haven’t found there way into the engine, Obviously you don’t want to strip the motor 🥺 Good luck Charlie 👍

[@motorcyclerescuer]

I'll let the next video answer that David. If they aren't found then it's junk really. Also will explain the constant weird engines noises this has had.

[@baconvicious3560]

Just about to dissasemble my virago starter clutch, though brought in advance still cost £81.00 plus new oil filter,£4.00 an fresh oil £9.00 for 4 litres,

[@motorcyclerescuer]

It's easy enough to do. Just be sure that all the bolts are still intact, otherwise one or 2 could be in the bottom end.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Good luck with it. Let me know how it goes. Thanks

[@brianelliott4720]

Mint

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Cheers Brian

[@LeeKirkman88]

Sounds like you need Rabjab to sweep up those leaves buy him a 10 pence mix for doing it lol.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

A 10p bag of sweets is now £1 lol

[@baconvicious3560]

Took off my crank case today, no nonsense, real easy, however came to centre bolt I got nut off with ring spanner an kept hitting the spanner hard, anti clock wise an nut came off, without hammer drill found out all 3 bolts had sheared off hence the weight balance was loose an spinning around.. just need to prise off the centre hub..for full access.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Oh no that sounds like a right pain. Hopefully you get it sorted

[@derekdingwall]

Its worth fixing ,i wonder where the other bolts are ,maybe a magnet might find them ?🤔👍

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Next vid on Thursday will answer that Derek. If they aren't found then it's junk really.

[@derekdingwall]

@@motorcyclerescuer i wouldnt call it junk Charlie ,just a total pain in the arse lol

[@motorcyclerescuer]

It would be a bottom end rebuild I believe Derek.

[@javierhumbertourbinamendez8995]

Buenas tardes amigo tengo una 535 y cuando el motor esta en marcha y preciono en croke y voy a meter primera suena como trabada y no entra que podrá ser gracias

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Hola, Parece que su embrague se ha ido y necesita cambiarse o ajustarse.

[@javierhumbertourbinamendez8995]

Ok voy a pedirlos y cambiarlos , saludos desde Venezuela ✌️

[@stephenwalsh8184]

🏍👍

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Cheers Stephen

[@jacqueslassalle6748]

On ne voit pas toute l.intervention.. dommage

[@motorcyclerescuer]

English?

[@jacqueslassalle6748]

Ok i truc .. we dont see all the opérations you done ..

[@jacqueslassalle6748]

I santé to say .. »ok i try « sorry

[@motorcyclerescuer]

It's hard to explain but you need to buy a starter clutch refurbishing kit.

[@laurahhead7422]

👍

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Thanks laurah.

[@motorcyclejunkie7564]

Is that you bike now Charlie? Thought it was Sultan's.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

I'm kinda selling it on commission for him. He wants £600, I've put £100 into it and will make a couple hundred on top. Someone will get a reasonably priced virago here. If it passes an mot this Saturday

[@motorcyclejunkie7564]

@@motorcyclerescuer Nice one, thats fair enough.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Yeh, he's rarely this fair lol

[@springy-2112]

😃👍

[@bertbog5088]

if its running hopefully they will be sleeping in the sump :)

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Without them it's not worth selling. Too risky.

[@springy-2112]

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[@springy-2112]

trying

[@pickwizard-aka-Stevie]

🤔

[@BlueHairPronouns]

.................jabbing a starter clutch gear with a screwdriver to try and apply pressure to hold it in place, not realizing it's actually held in the proper position by the dowel hole on the cover. what if you'd slipped, putting all that pressure point-on, and sent your screwdriver into the teeth while it was turning over? shadetree antics. Couldn't watch past that.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Well then....... goodbye. I will mourn my massive loss 🤣

[@springy-2112]

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[@springy-2112]

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[@springy-2112]

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[@PaulCTownsend]

You need to buy yourself an impact driver.

[@PaulCTownsend]

What's the make model and year you're working on.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

I've got a impact although I could do with a new decent one. Do you recommend any? I was working on 2, a 1991 and a 1988. One was a single fuel tank and one was a twin

[@PaulCTownsend]

I have a Snap-on it still works great after numeriuse years.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Cheers Paul. I'll look into it mate

[@springy-2112]

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[@springy-2112]

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[@jeffmosier3145]

I just bought a a 03 Yamaha V Star 1100 classic and my thoughts and conclusion is that Yamaha makes pieces of shit bikes. I'll get this 1100 going and get away from it and buy a Honda 1300cc Shadow. If I wouldn't have got that Yamajunk at a insane ridiculously low price I wouldn't have fkd with it

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Yeh yamaha during this time period wasn't great. At least this starter clutch was accessible, on the xj bikes you had to tear the engine down and get to it in the crank case.

[@springy-2112]

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