YAMAMOTO'S DOWNFALL - How the Captain-Commander's Leadership Fell Apart | Bleach TYBW Discussion

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@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 жыл бұрын
What did you guys think of the Captain-Commander's rapid turn and character development in the final arc? Let me know!
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 жыл бұрын
It was certainly him coming to terms with the death of his longtime friend and his past failure to slay Yhwach with all the related implications.
@Rhekon
@Rhekon 3 жыл бұрын
He was old hat and was being written out intentionally. It wasn't terribly jarring for me though.
@ludasrayjin1158
@ludasrayjin1158 3 жыл бұрын
It was really a great character development for him I fuckin love everything about it His death was poetic especially with the mini flashback we got for him and shunsui prior his brutal death Sasakibe's death really made him more interesting for me And one of my favorite moments is yhwach monolgue after he kills yama Him describing yama for what used to be a long time ago to the point he describes and talk about how he changed now is fuckin amazing I can't wait to see it animated
@mjl167
@mjl167 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if he was really distraught.. I think he was internally conflicted.. he felt he could have prevented it. It gave him an extra amount of anger towards exacting vengeance. Maybe another definition of distraught? Hard to tell
@mjl167
@mjl167 3 жыл бұрын
this gives me another angle I never thought of before. thank you :)
@TheBigExclusive
@TheBigExclusive 3 жыл бұрын
Younger Yamamoto was ruthless and enjoyed conquering, killing, and defeating his enemies. But once he conquered all of Soul Society, Yamamoto realized that defense is A LOT harder than offense. It's much easier to burn your enemies to ash than to protect your city from damage. Especially if your abilities could kill everyone around you. It's probably how Superman feels in American Comics.
@rekhaverma8967
@rekhaverma8967 2 жыл бұрын
I think Yhawch said that Yamamoto found things to protect and care that's what made him weak
@Thelitletrainthtcud
@Thelitletrainthtcud 2 жыл бұрын
@@rekhaverma8967 yeah, can't just turn all things to ash when you actually enjoy the things you've surrounded yourself with lol
@DeBean970
@DeBean970 Жыл бұрын
DCAU Superman said he felt like he lived in a world of cardboard
@jaredmn8580
@jaredmn8580 3 жыл бұрын
The panel where Shunsui screams "Yamaji!" is so haunting
@IchigosBestFriend
@IchigosBestFriend 3 жыл бұрын
Shit, lost his Dad
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they are going to use a new sad ost for that moment or choose the complete silence treatment
@isabeligbar
@isabeligbar 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was Heartbreaking 😥
@andrewgan557
@andrewgan557 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Even more haunting is the way how they show that he's dead first the close up of his face with the dead eyes and next panel we saw his upper body just fell down.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgan557 I was kind expecting him to show that exact panel of just his face right before Kubo shows his torso falling. Kubo is really good showcasing the emotions behind Yamamoto's death
@mynameisjeff2571
@mynameisjeff2571 3 жыл бұрын
The panels of Yamamoto in this arc are some of the best manga panels I've ever seen. Kubo really does a good job of bringing out an emotional response every time I see them.
@TiddyTwyster
@TiddyTwyster 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing them now for the first time had me tears They broke the unbreakable
@Y_dz1
@Y_dz1 2 жыл бұрын
That face off he had with ywach when he arrives is some of the best panels I’ve ever seen
@monstermichaeltoad5705
@monstermichaeltoad5705 3 жыл бұрын
He had to be written as arrogant and short sighted in order to counter his godlike powers. Simply put, Kubo was never going to draw him as weaker than his opponent. In order to keep the inferno god like symbolism going, Yamamoto had to lose only by being outsmarted.
@BleachBtch
@BleachBtch 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@kentanderson2071
@kentanderson2071 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. I hated the whole bankai stealing thing, as a tactic it was brilliant but, as a fan I was expecting a head to head battle between 2 long time enemies. After 1000 years yuha was still afraid of yamma.
@monstermichaeltoad5705
@monstermichaeltoad5705 3 жыл бұрын
@@kentanderson2071 In the end, Yama was scared of Yhwach too. I remember he shouted "What type of monster are you" when he heard the dying fake one apologize to Yhwach. The way he stood still and gave up after realizing he was facing a demi God was so well drawn
@kentanderson2071
@kentanderson2071 3 жыл бұрын
@@monstermichaeltoad5705 well he stole his bankai at that point given up was all he could do. I cant wait to see it all animated tho
@liecretsev
@liecretsev 3 жыл бұрын
@@kentanderson2071 I mean, if im the enemy, i would most probably do the same.
@MrShadow1995.
@MrShadow1995. 3 жыл бұрын
People might think he went out in a shitty way, but think of it this way. Yamamoto was so powerful that he never once lost in a fair 1 vs 1 fight. Without stealing or sealing his power, he was practically unbeatable.
@calebj8134
@calebj8134 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Both of his major opponents(Aizen and Yuha Bach) had to both use other people in order to trick Yamamoto. Neither of them fought him head-on
@kikima258
@kikima258 3 жыл бұрын
I actually liked it kubo showed what a monster yama is while at the same time humainizing him like everyone else he's flawed his enemy outsmarted him and took atvantage of his weakneses
@calebj8134
@calebj8134 3 жыл бұрын
@tom gu He could NOT activate the almighty till the second invasion sir. Go back and re-read the story. If he had used the Almighty against Yama he would've stripped the sternritter of their powers. He only used the Almighty against Ichibe and Ichigo at the END of the story
@residentevil2928
@residentevil2928 3 жыл бұрын
Ywach knew even with his almighty that he would be powerless against Zanka No Tachi.
@blackronin848
@blackronin848 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebj8134 your completely right and let's remember he had the power of the almighty in there first confrontation and lost which is why he sent a fake this go round
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto's death was a milestone that showed how things will never be the same and change will be coming to Soul Society. Now Shunsui and Nayura are passing never before seen reforms that never would've happened under Yamamoto's watch especially the outreach to the common people of the Rukon.
@GundamShinobi00
@GundamShinobi00 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda like how an old regime finally falls and gives way to the new generation. Good stuff 👍🏾
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 жыл бұрын
@@GundamShinobi00 Truth. No doubt many in the aristocracy are nervous about these reforms even if they won't admit it openly for obvious reasons. The fact that many are starting to question the old status quo by Renji and Rukia's wedding undoubtedly makes them sweat a little more.
@c731-enfi
@c731-enfi 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the only reason the Gotei 13 couldn't actively help Rukongai is because the Central 46 wouldn't allow it, and after the events of TYBW, Shunsui, being the Captain Commander, and the death of the current memebers of the Central 46,he was able to gain arbitrary control over the Seireitei
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 жыл бұрын
@@c731-enfi True. He also certainly decided to initiate this help as an emergency measure, Nayura's altruistic view that they need to do and be better than before made them permanent.
@krissjames7276
@krissjames7276 3 жыл бұрын
I really didn't like Yamamoto initially, he seemed like a thoroughly two-dimensional character without depth or sympathetic traits. The Fake Karakura Town arc really changed my opinion of him for the better, showcasing both his core virtues (unshakable sense of duty, and a willingness to sacrifice himself for the greater good without hesitation) and his surprising merciful side (having some pity for the likes of Wonderweiss and Ayon, sparing the Tres Bestias, telling Ichigo to save himself and escape before Yama's suicide attack). Oh, and he also truly proved what an absolute badass he was. The Thousand Year Blood War Arc really just accelerated Yamamoto's character development and humanization, showing so many new sides to him, making him so much more sympathetic and relatable even as he became more flawed and erratic. In the end, Yamamoto very surprisingly became one of my favorite captains, and his death was one of the saddest and most shocking moments in the series for me.
@vistatrista7
@vistatrista7 3 жыл бұрын
I had a very similar experience, although I'd say that I found him intriguing since his introduction based solely on his power. I really appreciate this video, because I never really paid that much attention to Yamamoto's subtle character development in the earlier parts of the story. He seemed like a stubborn, stern old badass with genuine honor and, deep down, a heart of gold from the beginning to me, but he actually does change and it is so interesting and compelling that his mellowing is actually what causes his demise. The usual story convention is that the softening of the rigid authority figure ends up leading to a happy outcome, but this is actually pretty relatable and realistic in that, by becoming more humanized and not such an idealized embodiment of supposed perfection, he simultaneously becomes more relatable and flawed. All of this together makes Yamamoto in retrospect such a well-written character, and while I'm deeply moved by his death, it truly does make the story so much richer. No other character death in Bleach thus is more profound and impactful, making Yamamoto one of my favorite Bleach characters.
@zurakuraworks
@zurakuraworks 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Reigai arc where he initially sought to destroy Nozomi the moment their eyes met "for the greater good", but then decided to show his merciful side by taking a bullet (by "bullet" I mean "Ryujin Jakka's fire that Kageroza copied") for her & states that despite everything that she was, she's still just a girl who needs protection, even went as far as tagging-up with Ichigo & Nozomi just to take down Kageroza (despite the 3 of them ultimately losing). Also the part in the Reigai arc, where he said he was proud of Kyoraku & Ukitake when they rebelled against him during the Soul Society arc, and that he was disappointed at seeing their Reigai counterparts being voluntarily shackled by Kageroza's command, also says alot for Yamamoto's character. Even tho this is just a filler arc, it really helps in developing Yamamoto's character, & the fact that Reigai arc can fit into canon story makes it alot better.
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 3 жыл бұрын
well I always saw him as this respectable teacher character .yeah he is that military head but i already liked him in the soul society arc. His two students messed up the execution of a criminal and first he wants to hear their motive, when Rukia is executed he lies to her and says Ichigo and co will be save to put her mind at ease. He didn't need to do that. In Karakura he spares the Tres Bestia and even says, he is glad Wonderweiss doesn#t look like a child anymore and is furious for Wonderweiss, you know a hollow, a being he killed thousands of because of what Aizen did to him .he did have redeemable qualities but they kind of were always just the second layer of his character beneath his stern leader facade and for that I actually liked him.
@torniketsirekidze1525
@torniketsirekidze1525 3 жыл бұрын
"You think you can kill me that easily, just by neutralizing my Ryūjin Jakka? How naïve! I am astounded by your complete lack of insight. How do you think I remained Captain-Commander of the Gotei 13 for over a thousand years? No Shinigami born in that entire time has been stronger than I."
@MrShadow1995.
@MrShadow1995. 3 жыл бұрын
His quote was so badass that he had byakuyas bankai theme playing for him instead during that segment.
@gammafrost
@gammafrost 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrShadow1995. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@residentevil2928
@residentevil2928 3 жыл бұрын
He was calling out the zero division too.
@blackronin848
@blackronin848 3 жыл бұрын
@@residentevil2928 zero division zaraki and everyone and there momma
@Jay9966
@Jay9966 3 жыл бұрын
@@residentevil2928 How would he win against the fat man with a brush though?
@guesswhothisis4969
@guesswhothisis4969 3 жыл бұрын
Yuha Bach: "The future is now, old man"
@lordkars3971
@lordkars3971 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao you're bad for that
@NJ-ss5bc
@NJ-ss5bc 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one lmho
@bubblines
@bubblines 3 жыл бұрын
Its ironically funny because YH is probably older than Yama
@nicodemusedwards6931
@nicodemusedwards6931 3 жыл бұрын
*Yhwach cuts Yamamoto in half and rides away on a skateboard*
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 3 жыл бұрын
@@bubblines Naw I don’t think so, 1000yrs ago he looked fairly young but then again Unohana is about 1000yrs old too and she still looks about the same including few in the zero division. Tho I’m positive that Yama is 1000+ because he looked like a middle aged soul reaper back then so he’s gotta very very old. Tho the only one I could say is older than him for sure is Ichibe, and maybe Oetsu? He created the zanpaktou so he’s gotta be old af too..
@dhaamd.slayer5025
@dhaamd.slayer5025 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to add on the haori symbolism. He once scold the three captains for losing it as it seems to represent honor or something of the sort. After he kills Driscol, he loses it. This may be a representation to how he is now pursuing his personal vendetta more than fighting for honor/duty for the gotei 13, which relates to his downfall in this video.
@sageaizen6837
@sageaizen6837 2 жыл бұрын
Wow never thought about that you re a genius
@dhaamd.slayer5025
@dhaamd.slayer5025 2 жыл бұрын
@@sageaizen6837 thanks :)
@SphearosGaming
@SphearosGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I think the mix of losing his lieutenant and the ghosts of his past coming back both equally affect Yamamoto. Given how much pride Yamamoto has even despite his massive character development, I can imagine he would think he was to blame for his lieutenant’s death as his failure to kill Yhwach 1000 years ago created this situation. It’s not just that he lost his best friend, but that he also believed he was to blame for this.
@Davidmaldonado9173
@Davidmaldonado9173 3 жыл бұрын
“parting is all we know of heaven and all we need of hell” love is the strongest emotion it can cause such joy and at the same time the greatest pain. I think you’re right I also think for the first time he truly feels alone which can also take a great toll on you. In a way his death was like a flame, at first it’s strong and over time it dwindles down and dies if there is nothing to keep the fire going. His death was truly sad and tragic to put everything he had into his attack to make amends for his mistakes only to fail and die. I had no clue his death would have such a impact the way it did on all of us. RIP old man Yama you truly were the best of all the head captains.
@CloudTribe
@CloudTribe 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day you have to admire his strength for building a society around him. He might have been stern and stubborn but thats the foundations of a strong society. I think he's a real life representation of old people who don't know how to change because how they've always done things is all they know that works.
@Davidmaldonado9173
@Davidmaldonado9173 3 жыл бұрын
He had to be that way as a leader if he shows weakness then it would effect his team so he was this man of stone to make his squads stronger. It’s as they say you’re only as strong as your leader. You grew to love him and I never expected him to die atleast not as easy as he did which leaves an empty hole now that he is gone but he is now with his vice captain his best friend and can now Rest In Peace knowing that he did his job great and left behind a squad he can be proud of.
@koobertohumperdink8702
@koobertohumperdink8702 3 жыл бұрын
He did change though. He clung so tight to his old ways but then when Ichigo needed help he approved of restoring Ichigo's powers which the yamamoto at the start of the series wouldn't have ever thought of doing.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 2 жыл бұрын
@@koobertohumperdink8702 that and he acknowledged ichigo for his feats like when rukia was sentenced to the death he literally changed the laws and fought against said laws because of how wrong it was. On top of that Yama acknowledged a human no tie to soul society helping against Aizen. All this lead to giving ichigo back his powers. He held high regards toward Ichigo to the point imo he was pleased where the future was heading in a positive direction due to all those changes Ichigo brought.
@no_activity
@no_activity 3 жыл бұрын
My hopes is that the anime expands the final arc and reveals the things Kubo wasn't given time to finish
@sajohnson09
@sajohnson09 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same thing I'm hoping for, I didn't really care much for the arc after Yamamoto died, but when I heard the anime was coming back to wrap it up, I immediately gained interest again.
@no_activity
@no_activity 3 жыл бұрын
@John Cena it wouldn't come back if they didn't think there was money to be made. It isn't about effort, it's about a property making consistent money. Especially if the Hell chapter wasn't actually a one shot, the Bleach anime could return as a seasonal show, and make money for a while.
@benjiago6800
@benjiago6800 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what I think Kubo wants as well
@supermegadong7597
@supermegadong7597 2 жыл бұрын
@John Cena I know this comments is months old so you didn’t see the new trailer but yeah you can tell they are putting a good effort into it. If they didn’t give a fuck it would look like dragon ball super just a quick cash grab with what they had maybe one good animator? Bleach looks amazing so I’m sure they will expand the series on how it’s suppose to be
@animanco6833
@animanco6833 2 жыл бұрын
He’s actually doing that right now I think. Or am I wrong
@michaelmoon622
@michaelmoon622 3 жыл бұрын
Kubo’s drawing was at it’s peak when he drew Yama in the TYBW
@dragon_ninja_2186
@dragon_ninja_2186 3 жыл бұрын
I think Yamamoto’s greatest weakness was making things too personal. When that happened he became blinded by emotions and exhausted himself and left an opening to be exploited.
@jamesw2831
@jamesw2831 3 жыл бұрын
The scene between Mayuri and Yamamoto was one of the best panels in the manga. That just showed you where both characters were at that point. Mayuri was his usual himself. Yamamoto was clearly conflicted. It let me know that the arc was going in a good direction. It was one hell of a dialogue
@Zorkii
@Zorkii 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame we didn't get to see Yhwach get humbled like Yamamoto. We only get like one panel then he gets cut down.
@sajohnson09
@sajohnson09 3 жыл бұрын
It's for reasons like this I'm looking forward to the anime coming back, it seems like Kubo was rushed when finishing the manga, but since it's been so long between hopefully we can get things expanded a bit in the final arc adaptation.
@extonjonas6820
@extonjonas6820 3 жыл бұрын
@@sajohnson09 I hopes so. If I am being honest, the thousand year blood war is pretty disappointing even without the rushed ending. If the anime does come back I hope it strengthens the arc as a whole
@Fireitup3222
@Fireitup3222 3 жыл бұрын
@@sajohnson09 Dont get your hopes up.
@ExtraVictory
@ExtraVictory 2 жыл бұрын
Considering Yhwach is now the soul king it's poetic justice. That the "torment" he wanted to free his father from ended up becoming his own fate in the process. So if you consider the situation that the god of the bleach world gets put in to be humbled then that counts. But you could also just look at is as "well they're the god of the verse" so that's kinda also the opposite of being humbled lol. Different perspectives
@Zorkii
@Zorkii 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExtraVictory does the Soul King even have thoughts? Idk much about Soul King stuff, I haven't read the novels or if there's a data book that goes further into it. I knew Yhwach turned into the Soul King because of MrTommo but I don't think he ever said if the Soul King was awake this whole time or not. I always thought that the Soul King is just a comatose torso. It would be pretty cool knowing that Yhwach still had his thought process and was forever awake, kinda like the ending of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream.
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 3 жыл бұрын
I think Yamato wasn't as strong as he was when he had 2 arm. He was too proud to ask Inoue to restore his arm
@pertricehuggins8771
@pertricehuggins8771 3 жыл бұрын
He would’ve still got his heart torn out of his chest vs Bach
@lolok1099
@lolok1099 3 жыл бұрын
@@pertricehuggins8771 no he wouldn’t well if he had his bankai
@pertricehuggins8771
@pertricehuggins8771 3 жыл бұрын
@@lolok1099 Bach would’ve snatched that if he had 2 or 3 hands, doesn’t matter lad.
@8BitGamer4life
@8BitGamer4life 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto was too arrogant and prideful.
@justinfrazier9555
@justinfrazier9555 3 жыл бұрын
@@pertricehuggins8771 Yamamato beat him once. He was capable of defeating him. And his bankai was feared enough that they went out of their way to ensure it wouldn't be used against him.
@dinolover
@dinolover 2 жыл бұрын
"Just because you lived a long life, doesn't mean it cant come to a short end old man"- Thugnificent.
@Edgelordfosho
@Edgelordfosho 3 жыл бұрын
The panel of yamamoto at chojiro’s funeral gives me so many feelings particularly of the ‘I should be dead, not them’ vibes. I honestly feel like he may have felt he wrongfully outlived his vice captain
@BlueInferno95
@BlueInferno95 3 жыл бұрын
One scene that comes to mind is that of a young Kyoraku finding a picture of Yamamoto (presumably in Bankai) and Yama calles it a Demon of the soul society and that should this Demon ever come return Yama probably wont be coming back. He knew this fight against Ywach was gonna be his last (hence why he left the note that Kyoraku should be new Head Captain). Yama was aware of his own downfall and yet he went to battle anyway.
@MrSub132
@MrSub132 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he said "the demon almost destroyed everything in the past but it wont come back" Cause his bankai basicly destroys what he loves, and the note was just in case of his death (I assume)
@BlueInferno95
@BlueInferno95 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSub132 Yes thats true he did say that but I think Kyoraku asked what if something like that were to return to which Yama said "I probably won't be coming back". Merely conjecture on my part but I believe Yama knew he was gonna die.
@MrSub132
@MrSub132 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlueInferno95 I have to disagree, yama isn't the type of character to admit someone to be stronger than him. I think it's more likely he thought ywach couldnt steal his bankai in my opinion.
@oneworld9903
@oneworld9903 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto's descent and Kenpachi's rise will be two of the most amazing moments to see animated that's currently in the manga in my opinion. TYBW I think is the Arc that highlights best what Kubo does as a mangaka.
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ 3 жыл бұрын
This was an old comment of mine on another video about his ost, and i think it still fits so i wanna share. "because of what he was, because of who he was, the old lion stood, it was not a necessity, and yet he stood, his blackened blade full of wrath and his heart full of cinder, he brought forth all his might against the black conqueror, the old lion fell that day, his flame, however, was forever etched into the hearts of those he nourished"
@torniketsirekidze1525
@torniketsirekidze1525 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto's character is not only criminally underrated but is also one of the most important characters in story. We saw the glimpse of his demon he had in him and was in slumber. Sadly it was too late for him... Kyoraku has keen intellect? Now think how Yamamoto was able to convince Nobles that he is about to gather criminals and found military organization..
@skyrogue1977
@skyrogue1977 3 жыл бұрын
Does the Quincy battle 1000 years ago deserve to be its own movie? Why as a question with an obvious answer.
@juliandavidhoffer2022
@juliandavidhoffer2022 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck that it should be it’s own arc
@thesun7205
@thesun7205 3 жыл бұрын
They're already making an arc for it. And also, usually anything that happens in the movies never apply to the anime
@zhcultivator
@zhcultivator 2 жыл бұрын
That could be awesome
@SpookyStu
@SpookyStu 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content, and hope you reach 100,000 soon.
@Colechamdiceman
@Colechamdiceman 3 жыл бұрын
'Grandpa fell again... Maybe it's time we put him in a home'
@andrewgan557
@andrewgan557 3 жыл бұрын
In case of Yamamoto they put him on permanent retirement home by yuhach
@absolutelynotgriffith1954
@absolutelynotgriffith1954 3 жыл бұрын
Time to put the Old Man in a home. A FUNERAL HOME! -Vegeta
@Colechamdiceman
@Colechamdiceman 3 жыл бұрын
@@absolutelynotgriffith1954 Random thought: In another universe Vegeta should have a British 'football' hooligan accent...
@AndréVilaFranca
@AndréVilaFranca 3 жыл бұрын
Best and strongest Bankai in the series. Also great character design, demeanor and great last fight. I love Yamamoto, especially in the last arc. Kubo should've killed more good characters like he did Yamamoto, (Byakuya cough-cough). xD Love your analysis videos such as these. Keep up the great work man.
@Blad3sofWaR
@Blad3sofWaR 3 жыл бұрын
Byakura should have died, but the bitching fan base caused him to be revived
@AndréVilaFranca
@AndréVilaFranca 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blad3sofWaR I know, it's a shame really...it was a waste of opportunity because his "death" was so well written and its impact would've been tremendous for the story and characters.
@infinitefannyml610
@infinitefannyml610 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blad3sofWaR I was one of them I simp for Byakuya. ☺️ I also love Yamamoto his character to me he always felt like gramps. Looking back on it yeah Byakuya should've died to AzNodt.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 2 жыл бұрын
Not just byakuya but other lieutenants . I honestly thought the zombies were dead and couldnt be reverted but nope they all lived. Considering Kubo cant handle what to do with some of his characters, it would have helped him alot cutting down his roster and present new ones with new ideas without a history tied to the current soul society members
@framedthunder6436
@framedthunder6436 2 жыл бұрын
@@SemekiIzuio Killing Toshiro would be unfair I think he only got the Spotlight in the final part of the quincy war Before it was Aizen toy
@sourensoukatsui
@sourensoukatsui 3 жыл бұрын
his fall was inevitable. when Shunsui took over, he already took necessary measures so that the Soul Society would adapt quickly to all the changes that's happened. He trained Kenpachi and even enlisted Aizen. If he acknowledged that Ichigo can use Hollowfication, then he should have supported the development of gaining that kind of power. imagine if all of the shinigami has hollowfication, the quincy would not stand a chance. he was aware of the vizard all this time who were hiding in the real world. same with kisuke. these are people that he should've tried to understand. not just completely ignore them forever after banishing them.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 2 жыл бұрын
Ichigo brought the change to Yamamoto of accepting the past and adapting to to change the future but it was a little too late. That's what being old is and Kubo represents Yama very well, clinging to his past ideals and refusing to accept the changes that where happening.
@joshgroban5291
@joshgroban5291 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think all of the shinigami should have hollowification due to the way hollowification can affect the user, but there should definitely be a Vizard Corps in the Gotei 13. Use one of the corps that don't have a specific job.
@lindapenttinen3382
@lindapenttinen3382 3 жыл бұрын
I have this theory that losing Choojiroo, his best friend and vice-captain made Yamamoto lose his will to live and making his decision to fight Juha was because his lust for revenge but also he wanted to die.
@ulitmatedangai4934
@ulitmatedangai4934 3 жыл бұрын
I love your content so much, can you make videos: 1-Unanswered Questions in Bleach. 2-Aizen's Bankai. 3-The negatives things in TYBW. This is not an order but a request from a fan of yours.
@ulitmatedangai4934
@ulitmatedangai4934 3 жыл бұрын
@@LucasFerreira-cq8qz Aizen has a Bankai but Kubo didn't show us. 2nd he used Shikai all the time.
@LucasFerreira-cq8qz
@LucasFerreira-cq8qz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulitmatedangai4934 So his bankai can probably be time control? like how he used with Ywhach?
@LucasFerreira-cq8qz
@LucasFerreira-cq8qz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulitmatedangai4934 Plus i believe he never stated Kyoka Suigetsu is his shikai. His illusions can easily being one of his bankai special abilites(among others), don't you think?
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy
@MichaelisBLee-nw8wy 3 жыл бұрын
@@LucasFerreira-cq8qz It needs to be something that speaks for his character, not necessarily just be an upgrade. Aizen's shikai is a representation of his will to challenge the status quo and all that is their world's reality.
@Flip4910
@Flip4910 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be tough to make #3 I would think I mean we really don't ever get any information to guess what it could be I don't think. The other points good in my opinion tho!!!
@rodneylane952
@rodneylane952 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto's behavior during the first invasion and especially during the fight with Ywhach is very much indicative of him calling himself a "monster" in the past. Such great parallels
@TheDonovanMcCormick
@TheDonovanMcCormick 3 жыл бұрын
I know Bleach from beginning to end but the things Tommo points out are quite often things I missed. A great video, was not expecting it to be so in depth and accurate. Yama was totally trying to make fake Yhwach feel despair in that fight, he didn’t just want to kill him, he wanted him to be afraid.
@theriddlemethispersongoldeneye
@theriddlemethispersongoldeneye 3 жыл бұрын
It is so interesting where you and DBZimran record video essays for us and what is even more interesting is to see how the both of you have your own opinions about each character.
@sirdarkskinj8
@sirdarkskinj8 3 жыл бұрын
bro good looks i can always rely on you for quality content. 12/10 would recommend!!!
@NoLimitSquad
@NoLimitSquad 2 жыл бұрын
0:08 “I am here. What better security is there?” Can’t wait for that line🔥
@ludasrayjin1158
@ludasrayjin1158 3 жыл бұрын
Mrtommo rocking that beard
@cloudali892
@cloudali892 3 жыл бұрын
i'd like to just say thank you so much for being in Bleach community, seriously we are very spoiled with you and so many other great Bleach KZbin channels that keep making fantastic content like this one. thank you again and have a good day pal.
@TheHoppySr
@TheHoppySr 3 жыл бұрын
Once bleach anime returns your channel will grow into the millions. Just keep doing what your doing.
@joachimikuenobe599
@joachimikuenobe599 3 жыл бұрын
Damn... The way you spoke about these scenes brought the story to life on another level. I felt the tension of being in the same room with Yama in the captains' meeting 🙈
@ChristianMartinez-gb2wj
@ChristianMartinez-gb2wj 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto is just so badass. It’s too bad we didn’t get to see that flashback to Yamamoto and Ywatch’s first fight
@tensazangetsu465
@tensazangetsu465 3 жыл бұрын
We migth get flash back fillers
@pumkin610
@pumkin610 3 жыл бұрын
@@tensazangetsu465 or just filler fillers
@hitman3507
@hitman3507 3 жыл бұрын
For me Yamamoto is still the strongest
@Mugetsu2021
@Mugetsu2021 3 жыл бұрын
aint nobody want the smoke in a fair 1v1, that says it all.
@blackronin848
@blackronin848 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mugetsu2021 facts or they get smoked and become one with zanka no tachi south
@liecretsev
@liecretsev 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackronin848 His South ability reminded me of Solo levelling main character's "Arise"
@blackronin848
@blackronin848 3 жыл бұрын
@@liecretsev facts
@royalecrafts6252
@royalecrafts6252 3 жыл бұрын
Barragan as well, both kings didnt share a fight 1vs1
@joedonis7329
@joedonis7329 3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting and well developed character, his death had weight and influenced the urgency of ywachs’ invasion and the whole tone of the arc
@raymondyongho5757
@raymondyongho5757 3 жыл бұрын
It really sucks he we never got to see the flashback to Yuha’s first invasion on the Soul Society, and how Yamamoto nearly killed him. Maybe that’s one of the things the anime will add, should it return.
@animeprince204
@animeprince204 3 жыл бұрын
This also makes me wish that we had any kind of scene between Yamamoto and Unohana. I think she would've been an excellent confidant for Yama. The two eldest captains talking about how and why this is happening and where things may have went wrong.
@wayjay9701
@wayjay9701 3 жыл бұрын
Having never really cared a lot about Yamamoto, his downfall in the TYBW, subtle development, and relationship with Chojiro really helped me to see him as a whole new character
@mjl167
@mjl167 3 жыл бұрын
You have such a way with words, it's surprising to some extent that you choose to make bleach content with your expertise being what it is. I salute you. Do you know anything about the alternate final battle script yet? Seems interesting. Schrift P ftw
@syzorst
@syzorst 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually a good take on Yamamoto. He was blinded by rage and his need for revenge. He normally doesn't go onto the battlefield at the start. If Yamamoto had been composed like he normally does, he would've stayed behind and encountered the real Ywach Bach instead of fighting a fake and been smart enough not to use Bankai. Instead Yamamoto rushed onto the battlefield and exhausted his stamina fighting a fake Ywach Bach and have his Bankai stolen which led to his death.
@bennettmoseley2622
@bennettmoseley2622 3 жыл бұрын
I always like how Yamamoto's recruitment brochure says that "even I am still studying". Yes, he was the captain commander, but he learned to still value the input on those under him. Those that are the struts upon which the god of fire that leads soul society stands.
@djdrack4681
@djdrack4681 3 жыл бұрын
Yama was actually around for min of 2000yrs. circa 0AD: he creates the gotei 13, but apparently isn't the head captain at first. Instead is head of the Shinigami Academy. Unohana is captain of Squad 11 circa 1000AD: becomes captain commander 1000-1800AD: Kyoraku and Ukitake become captains
@hectoraliegbe9429
@hectoraliegbe9429 4 ай бұрын
Yamamoto created the Gotei 13 around 1000 years ago. That flashback with a young Sasakibe was 2000 years ago, which also should be noted to take place a century after Yamamoto founded "Shinoreijutsuin" (Spiritual Arts Academy).
@V.VIIIBeanman
@V.VIIIBeanman 3 жыл бұрын
You should make a video listing all the times a bleach character lost an arm from the beginning of the series to the end. It'd be nice to know all the instances of an arm being lost no matter how minor or significant.
@scottgrasser9737
@scottgrasser9737 3 жыл бұрын
i loved were mayuri back talked to yamamoto always love scenes of the big stoic intimidating bosses getting dragged down a peg
@drumma4lyfe06
@drumma4lyfe06 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish we can see the O.G 13 when Unohana was the Kenpachi. Shunsui even considered them the strongest Gotei 13 to ever exist.
@Intrepid_Explorer
@Intrepid_Explorer 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly given her tenured experience and character change from how she used to be 1000 years ago, I think there is an argument to be made for Unohana being made the Captain Commander after Yamamoto's death at the hands of Yhwach. I guess that then Kyoraku wouldn't have gotten his character arc as such then (which I very much like), though I also think it was something of a missed opportunity to not further give the most senior captain her chance to step up and fill the role of a leader.
@Rhekon
@Rhekon 3 жыл бұрын
She's unfit. Her way of fighting especially is unsuitable. She'd rather kill indefinitely than win.
@Flip4910
@Flip4910 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Unohana would have been a great Captain Commander
@CelVini
@CelVini 3 жыл бұрын
Unohana doesen't have the leadership and she would be conflicted, a leader and smart Retsu Unohana or a brutal and straight forward Yachiru Unohana?
@Intrepid_Explorer
@Intrepid_Explorer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rhekon ...Except she is no longer like that? It was strongly implied that both her and Yamamoto both changed from how they were 1000 years ago; neither are their former selves. Yamamoto was, as Yhwach described "a true sword demon who would do whatever it took to defeat his enemy". He did not care about his subordinates, and thus Yhwach feared him. Similarly Unohana was the strongest Captain of the 1st generation and was personally sought out by Yamamoto, given the title of Kenpachi to signify her strength. Yet in the story we clearly see that both change from how they once were; Yamamoto having aged and softened under the burden of maintaining peace, and Unohana having retired her sword to spend her life healing others. In the Thousand Year Blood War arc clearly both "dust off" their past selves so as to face the ghosts of their past; Yamamoto returning to his 'sword demon' self in an effort to slay Yhwach, and Unohana to put on the mask of Yachiru so that she can undo her wrong and return the power that Kenpachi once sealed away himself. Neither is the person they used to be; and Unohana certainly is not the bloodthirsty monster she once was - it was largely a memory that she used for Kenpachi's sake, not how she truly is anymore. I think Unohana would be an incredibly pragmatic and level-headed Head Captain (we even see her hoping that Yamamoto finishes his battle with the fake Yhwach quickly, so she is clearly not always in the favor of fighting endlessly for entertainment).
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flip4910 Nah. Unohana was strong and brutal, but it seems Kyoraku is wiser and that's why he was chosen.
@deathshop2172
@deathshop2172 Жыл бұрын
it's important to remember that ywatch took the coward's road here, using a body double to exhaust yama as well as his second in command (presumably using his schrift to make ywatch's eventual surprise attack that much more effective) for someone who called himself a god, and degraded yamamoto to the point of purposefully excluding him from the special war forces, he sure was scared of an old man. makes ywatch's death all the more sweet, it's glorious to see such a coward be cut down at the peak of his power.
@valentinemcintosh6006
@valentinemcintosh6006 3 жыл бұрын
Would have to say this is one of my favorite character analysis, remember this first time seeing Yamamoto in soul society arc all the captains faced him made him seem so mysterious and above them all. The character was always so eerily calm just gave a don’t mess the captain commander vibe.
@jamiemcneil9682
@jamiemcneil9682 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video and so far my favourite video you have done. Your breakdown and analysis of Yamamoto, made reflect on his character throughout the first invasion in tybw and the shuttle path to self destruction.
@adamstriebich530
@adamstriebich530 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my favorite videos
@mra3076
@mra3076 3 жыл бұрын
Sasakibe is the most disrespected character in all of Bleach. He’s been Yama’s right hand man for over a millennia. He’s a member of the original Gotei and had the ability to be a captain as well. Definitely should have had some crowning moments in the series.
@sntreulfravn2321
@sntreulfravn2321 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Kubo should've given him something to do other than getting one shot by a barehanded ichigo
@mra3076
@mra3076 3 жыл бұрын
@@sntreulfravn2321 Personally I think he should've fought Wonderweiss seeing as he's the one who sealed Yama's flames an all but what about you?
@sntreulfravn2321
@sntreulfravn2321 3 жыл бұрын
@@mra3076 Yeah fighting wonderweiss would've been awesome, maybe giving him an emotional moment about losing to Ichigo like that. I would've loved to see him have a relationship with kyoraku and Ukitake. And showing his bankai against driskoll before he gets blasted away
@mra3076
@mra3076 3 жыл бұрын
@@sntreulfravn2321 couldn’t agree more
@idnt3
@idnt3 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered if Ichibe says Yamamoto’s name if he’ll ever come back to life. Rip Yama 🙏🏽💙
@dabiakatsuki232
@dabiakatsuki232 3 жыл бұрын
This was great. Really love your content. So glad you are still keeping bleach alive until the anime gets back, and hopefully after as well.
@cameochris
@cameochris 3 жыл бұрын
Unohana was the smart one who realised it was time for the new generation to take over hence letting Kenpachi do what he did
@jordanogle7405
@jordanogle7405 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel Bleach was what made me fall in love with anime
@TheArchfiendGuy
@TheArchfiendGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Yamamoto is one of my favourite characters and I'm glad we got to see more of him in this arc. Glimpses into Soul Society's past as well was pretty cool. Royd Lloyd is a bit stupid but it is what it is
@JanjoZone
@JanjoZone 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great dissection. I never realized the change of character. I do recall the Mayuri bit when it came out being really like "oh snap"
@screwaccountcreation
@screwaccountcreation 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis of Yamamoto and tribute to the head captain!
@nathangardner6423
@nathangardner6423 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was great to see what the real Yamamoto and Unohana were like, it makes sense how during the first blood war they managed to defeat the Quincy since all of the soul reapers back then were as violent and bloodthirsty.
@thecowgoesvroom672
@thecowgoesvroom672 3 жыл бұрын
I was genuinely thinking about the morality of Yamamoto in the segment where you outline his Bankai being stolen - especially as Juha says "How about I resurrect dead Shinigami now?", because it makes you wonder about the morality of his actions as a whole, was it really right for him to take so much sadistic pleasure in disposing of Juha (at least the impostor Juha). Riveting stuff really, and I hope you hit 100k soon.
@Hakeemthedr3am
@Hakeemthedr3am 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Yamamoto couldve lived a bit longer since i personally dont feel his rage after chojuros death was utilized enough but other than that i love how he was handled
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 2 жыл бұрын
Nah I think Yama dying this early set the tension of how deadly and fucked soul society is once the leader is taken down. It kills morality and direction, kills hope. Like if our strongest warrior is taken down how are we going to take down our enemy if he couldnt.
@vamokage4720
@vamokage4720 3 жыл бұрын
Even Aizen knew Yamaji had a weakness and that was his ego
@julianoliver5364
@julianoliver5364 3 жыл бұрын
Neat detail: the tides of the fight turned against Yamamoto AND Ichibee after the mentioned the shinigami Yhwach had killed
@joshley1320
@joshley1320 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video so happy to see that passion for bleach
@KuroRyoka
@KuroRyoka 3 жыл бұрын
the most humanizing aspect of his character is that after chojiro's death his emotions took over like how a normal peron would react and its ironic that the main reason yamamoto lost to yhwach is because his character changed
@richaragonzales1355
@richaragonzales1355 3 жыл бұрын
That you are still able to come up with quality bleach videos is impressive. No end in sight
@fer3glockboy167
@fer3glockboy167 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very thoughtful discussion
@ArchAngelKnights
@ArchAngelKnights 3 жыл бұрын
great video. you really bring out what the character themselves and kubo could have possibly been thinking during this whole incident. I mean I got the jist of it when reading it years back but you make me double take and think about it more in depth. Keep up the good work.
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I've watched this video over three times. Arguably one of my favourites.
@ArrowRinehart
@ArrowRinehart 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think of how in hindsight, that it was brilliant, sad, and initially I felt he'd been cheated. But at the explanation you provide and my remembering how I felt? It truly is a rather impressively played out scene. Some hidden beauty in how he delivers on the fall of Yamamoto.
@augustmullins9552
@augustmullins9552 3 жыл бұрын
Every single one of your videos is so well crafted and phrased. Its amazing how you do it so regularly
@taranvirdhaliwal4602
@taranvirdhaliwal4602 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I seen
@rmeddy
@rmeddy 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, Yamji really couldn't keep a cool head no pun intended and it's an excellent character beat It's a shame we didn't get a better payoff and consequence of his downfall No fleshed out flashback and backstory and no proper use of his Bankai
@denno442
@denno442 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanne say watching all your TYBW vids to get hipped. Works relly wel so far. Thank you !
@lopaa9
@lopaa9 3 жыл бұрын
Great video my dude head captain is such a badass and you explored his character great. Can't wait for your next Juha bach analysis
@abbynormal7525
@abbynormal7525 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he was all old but when his robe came off he was all ripped and scared up. That was great.
@jamesmacharia1247
@jamesmacharia1247 3 жыл бұрын
His style of leadership was not the one which was adaptive he was rigid and very very arrogant.He did not accept ichigo as it was from the word go.
@damion19967
@damion19967 3 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone thought the big bad guy was gone. That seeing Uyru didn't instantly question the fact that the Quincy are still around, stronger then ever. But no he sat back after Aizen for 10 human years and didn't get stronger nor did his captains.
@Demaybe1661
@Demaybe1661 2 жыл бұрын
I always had a soft spot for old, wise men. Gandalf, Dumbledore, Whitebeard, Yamamato. I know it is a common archetype, but something makes them just so respectable and great
@DauthEldrvaria
@DauthEldrvaria 3 жыл бұрын
Feels like just yesterday we were talking about you being at 60K. Awesome the bleach fan base is rabid and hungry and your content is a perfect supplement haha.
@alexandercarder2281
@alexandercarder2281 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be the greatest video you have done so far for me. It horrified me tbh
@realistchristian
@realistchristian 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos
@bennefib
@bennefib 3 жыл бұрын
this is why i wished ichigo did the final getsuga tensho against yhwach, instead they went for soemthing in which they'd use the first bleach opening for if that makes sense? so much deep and dark segments come from the final arc but when it gets to ichigo it's like he's just there because he's the one to defeat yhwach, even when revealing about his evolvement with ichigos mother and past. i would of liked ichigo to arrive already in his mugetsu form considering the stakes were considerably higher, with yhwach basically a god and has stepped on his family and friends and they're loved ones to get there and threatens to end everything he knows, even the new form he had was lacking in weight compared to both his fully hollowed and mugetsu form, it really was this last " hoo rah " thanos nostalgia type of fight when it should have started with ichigo walking up and before yhwach uttered half a word he would of already been using the final getsuga tensho, weakening yhwach , revealing the new form and then continuing on with how the manga ended personally not knowing how powerful that form is at ichigo's current state of power seems like a undersite when everyone else gets to flex they're new forms as well, if they would of showed ichigo's power being so high at the moment that he could essentially weaken god , would of really cemented a more memorable moment for the finale bleach, even if it wasn't the final blow.
@94nat16
@94nat16 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Your the best! Befote watching your channel I didn't know "cant fear your own world" existed! Now I own them and reading through the full manga so I can read them in their entirety!
@salmaanmeerun4988
@salmaanmeerun4988 3 жыл бұрын
Man im not ready to watch this episode when Bleach anime comeback. RIP Old Man YAMA.
@catbuikhang6482
@catbuikhang6482 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos Tommo! Another small point I'd like to add is that during the Karakura Town fight, when he stepped in to fight Aion he did say that "You should be ashamed of yourself for forcing your Captain Commander on the Battlefield" and later on actually hide himself to set up the Ennetsu Jigoku to burn EVERYONE rather than fight himself. This point also showed his changes in the Ywach fight as not only he did not prepare like he did with Aizen but also actively engage in battle and that change caused him his life, had he been himself and setting things up, only show up when all of the other captains has fallen someone else might have been able to take out fake Ywach and his death would have been prevented
@prpldrgnfly6520
@prpldrgnfly6520 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda wonder how different it would have been if old man yama just went on a sternritter killing spree.
@porkadobo5160
@porkadobo5160 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the 15th video of yours that I have watched today - top tier as always 👍👍👍
@phelpsnodt5856
@phelpsnodt5856 3 жыл бұрын
4:57 - Yamamoto doesn't want Orihime to heal his arm because she's from the Living Realm yet Mayuri can casually regrow Kenpachi ripped arm after Pernida's battle.
@SatoshiSosuke
@SatoshiSosuke 3 жыл бұрын
An argument can be made that Mayuri was taking a while to research Orihime's battles and powers since he obviously couldn't kidnap her and experiment on her. He only happened to finish by the second invasion.
@kikima258
@kikima258 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie one of the things that i didn't like was mayuri and his "magical" drugs i bet if he've met the death dealer he would have pulled some needele and bam job done his bankai on the other hand was intresting and unique
@clutchceez1470
@clutchceez1470 3 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID, love going down memory lane like this thx bud
@Dissonant-Clash
@Dissonant-Clash 3 жыл бұрын
This is easily one of your best videos, bar none! Rip Yama-Jii
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