Is the Triumph Trident 660 appropriate for Beginner Riders?

[@yammienoob]

This Triumph Trident 660 is a giveaway bike! Get entered to win at yammienoob.co - don't miss it!

[@PappaDroid]

Yo Yammi!!! Let's see that ninja7 hybrid on the track. They say it's as fast as a liter with the weight of a 250.

[@nj6484]

I've been battling cancer for the last 7 years and its been tough! Tomorrow i have a huge surgery, it will be hit or miss... I just want a couple of things to say! Be careful on your bike, try to enjoy everything from your bike (even the sounds it makes at low rpm). Stay together! This community alone helped me so much with questions and you supported me so much with the vids and the interactions! Never let the bound bikers have with eachother break! Always help a biker in need, if you dont know what to do, just offer to wait together! I want to tell ya'll so much, but it will end with: the Triumph Trident 660 is amazing! With an aftermarket exhaust, driving the Trident is the highlight of your day!😍

[@Dr._Nope]

Hopefully surgery went well and you're well on the road to recovery! :)

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

so did it go well

[@wata_laf]

U doing good bud?

[@_justnick]

@@wata_laf i think he ded, F

[@wata_laf]

@ that’s sad 😞

[@bobz1736]

I've been riding bikes for 45 years, and I'm now 60, and I absolutely love my Trident. It exceeded my expectations in almost every way - fast enough, great sharp handling, comfy, nice quality components, and to my eye good looking. It's not your typical UJM. Great vid fella 👍

[@azurecoast45]

I wish they offered it in Australia. We only get the learner restricted version. We need more full power middleweights!

[@rottweilerfun9520]

@azurecoast45, Is there a way to fix that ?

[@exexpat11]

@@rottweilerfun9520 Buy a Street Triple.

[@ForgetfulPaladin]

I’m 37 and I got this bike almost 2 years ago as my starter bike and I still love it

[@exexpat11]

Nice to have a bike you've grown into and not out of.

[@matelocaa]

I just bought this bike a couple months ago, my first bike with minimal experience riding. It’s been a wonderful bike to learn on from my experience, kept it in rain mode for a while until i got more comfortable and confident. The weight is not an issue at all being 5’10” 165lb (24y/o), easily able to flat foot the bike, but when you twist that throttle you better be ready. It’s very appropriate for a disciplined and responsible rider as a beginner bike in my experience.

[@samanthagregoryurich4167]

I just got my license and the Trident was on my short list but I fell in love with the RS 660 so I got that. If you have significant off-road riding experience and have enough discipline to ride within your limits you should be fine with a 660. I live in Sweden where the training is thorough and even included 4 hours on a track. I was really careful when I started out and continue to do slow speed and maneuver training. At the moment I only have 1000 km under my belt but I feel comfortable and confident on it now.

[@klausknudsen106]

Aprilia RS 660? i agree, that's a nice bike. Be safe out there.

[@rayman1230]

@@klausknudsen106the average American rider, as an American myself, starts on huge bikes with far less mandatory training/tests. Anyone NOT from the states is probably more than okay to step up to something bigger than they think. I picked up my first personal motorcycle not riding for years in between. 2023 Triumph 765 RS is what I got. Almost 3000 miles this year and she’s great! I’m happy you bought your 660RS and are enjoying it as well!

[@biggums3368]

I agree with yam. An older beginner who's had fast vehicle experience , absolutely....that fits me. Got a z400 and realized long hwy riding wasn't suited for it. Found the t660 and got a more comfortable , higher end bike that handled what I needed.

[@Aw32999]

I commented on the last trident video, but I started riding this year on this bike. I’m 24 and had little to no riding experience before taking a MSF class. I’ve never owned any particularly fast cars, but have been a habitual speeder since I got my license. I think overall it’s a very forgiving bike that lets you have a good amount of fun. Also has made me a triumph fan and a lover of triples forever

[@zacpdx]

All I have to say-having ridden my entire life-is this is not only great for beginners, but for an every day motorcycle for advanced riders. Triumph really is the cream of the crop. They just make quality machines. I love my Trident.

[@ugosivocci719]

You´re right, it´s a good biginner bike for the ones who are over 25yo and already drive a rwd car with more than 150hp just like me...i´m so glad whith my Trident!!! Perfect for my low skills!

[@sunilmohite5776]

Seeing Yammie as a Triumph Simp for past 4 years and now as I bought myself a baby Triumph (Speed 400). I guess I realised why he is such a simp.😅 These are true examples of British craftsmanship. Even though Speed 400 is manufactured in India,it was designed in Britain...

[@JoseLopez-jj5te]

I'm in my 40s, already have screws and titanium in my body, so no dumb stuff like when in my 20s and as you said have experience with fast vehicles before but this is my first bike and believe it is perfect, it can be scary but it is a machine and it will do as you command ;so to every beginner please be safe and wise when riding.

[@nishiki7047]

Well said

[@rbattson7171]

Thanks

[@cr0p_dustin]

My wife is 5'4", weighs 120 lbs and this is her first bike 😅 but she loves it. She's definitely very timid on it (I out pace her everywhere and I'm on my Z400, which to be fair, she rode for a month before we got her bike). But all that to say, she handles it fine. She's able to put the balls of her feet on the ground confidently, and she loves it.

[@bradmccanna]

Bought mine as a step-down bike now that i'm older. Got tired of dealing with my Electra Glide, LOVING my new Trident.

[@spacezombe]

Someone needs to make a video on beginners starting in their 40s....

[@6amamoeba677]

Same rules apply...

[@SloPok3660]

Lol I bought a Trident 660 as my first bike at 40 early this year 😆

[@carlosvejar3938]

We are older than most of the vloggers and they have manners enough to not correct their elders. Same basic rules apply just instead of a liter bike, take baby steps before you get a GS or a full bagger HD. We can start on a 650 class cuz we are a bit more cautious

[@CodysGTO]

I bought a cb500x at 40

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Why, would that really change anything.. You're no less squishy just because you're 40.

[@christianburger25]

I started on the Ninja 400 but only had it 3 months and found it to be too uncomfortable at 6'3. Traded it in for the Trident and am really enjoying it. I find it easier to get along with and more forgiving. Less jerky throttle. I'm 45 so I can definitely see this being too much for someone under 25 as this bike has much more power and will get you to speed very quickly. But for me, I wish I got this bike to start with as I find slow speed so much easier on it due to balance and throttle. Self canceling indicators certainly help for us newbies too!

[@spittyrides]

As a gentleman at 6'4", this is good to know. I've been eyeing off the 660 as my first bike.

[@patrickmurray4084]

⁠@@spittyridesdid you end up getting one?

[@spittyrides]

@@patrickmurray4084 Nah, I've got my eyes on the Benelli 502c. The Trident felt good but I prefer the seating position of the 502.

[@enzo6sixty]

Owned my Trident for 2 years and I love it!

[@johncaceres0619]

I’m 31. This was my first bike and I love it but I’ve also had some go “quick” cars and respect what speed can do.

[@Xaia]

I am prepping to get the license soon in the spring. Got my car license for 15 years already. Here in Germany we have 12h of riding on 650ccm and Trident 🔱 will be my fiest bike right after I get the license.

[@jorgeavila5557]

I started on a Trident, I think Yam touched on something I think is a huge point for being a good beginner bike. For enthusiasts the throttle being “muted” or delayed pointed to be a good thing or a bandaid for my beginner skills. I haven’t moved onto a different bike yet so I don’t know if that’s negatively impacted my throttle skills but in the beginning it was a plus. Great first bike.

[@knomesaynmafk4789]

Even on the full power version I was surprised to actually see the maps and that when throttle is open x amount say 65% the throttle body was only opening to like 40%. Coming from a cable throttled bike I absolutely hated it so I changed it in the maps so the throttle body is opening within 10% of the throttle If that makes sense. It does make the throttle super touchy tho. Then I put the 53hp map on rain mode so I can switch between full power and restricted

[@Gunslinger-xp4mc]

I've been riding for many years and I've owned just about everything at this point, and I just picked up a 2025 trident 660 and I just fell in love with it. Coming from a heavy roadglide special, I enjoy a light bike that's easy to use in town or small commutes and the power feels just right for me.

[@brandongullion6353]

This has been my entry motorcycle for the last about year and a half. I've been really happy with it. I was both mildly concerned about the power but also concerned about outgrowing smaller bikes quickly. The Trident has been a great balance of enjoyable and usable power without being overwhelming in those crucial first few months of not knowing wtf you're doing lol. Throttle response is smooth and predictable. And it only gets more comfortable as you grow wit hit. Great video and love the insight of age in relation to responsibility with the power lol.

[@carlosvejar3938]

Any issues with the bike?

[@brandongullion6353]

@@carlosvejar3938Nope! Has been a great experience the whole time. They do advertise "10,000 mile service intervals" which is technically true, but it is actually 10,000 miles OR 1 year, whichever comes first lol. For most people the 1 year will come long before the 10,000 miles I think. So I was surprised to get a wrench indicator in the way to work one day but it does a good job of telling you it is service related, not an actual issue lol.

[@carlosvejar3938]

@@brandongullion6353 I get concerned about the reliability of these bikes because all you hear is the negatives. And Ol Yammie here was on a test ride of a Rocket 3 a little while ago and it just died mid ride

[@brandongullion6353]

@@carlosvejar3938 Yeah I'm sure there are definitely some negative experiences out there. So far so good for me, luckily!

[@carlosvejar3938]

@@brandongullion6353 dude that is fucking rad. Glad to hear that, that is awesome

[@bradymcrae7351]

Been riding dirt bikes since I was little but just barely got into street this year and I started on a flashed MT09 and have had no issues. Just gotta be smart and see what you can tolerate

[@operator0]

I'm a new rider and have a Triumph Bonneville T120. It also has ~80 HP, but is 100lbs heavier. It also has considerably more torque than the Trident. I considered the T100 at ~65HP, but the 6th gear, and dual front disks on the bigger bike was the deciding factor for me. I'm in the beginner+ category and consider the T120 to be a good beginner bike for me. I'm happy that I went with the bigger option.

[@Win7ermu7e]

660 actually has pretty low torque to weight.

[@tayspeaks4596]

I started on it but previously owned a car that gapped a tuned r6 so speed is something I’ve been around and am used to. Still may not recommend to someone with 0 automotive experience. The bike is quick and you can get yourself into trouble fast if you don’t have any understanding of power management

[@nishiki7047]

Well said , at 55yrs old , this is my first bike and I’m very respectful of it

[@SmkinBarrel]

I’ve been eying the xsr700. I knew nothing about the triumph until now. I’m seriously considering this now. This thing sounds amazing with an exhaust.

[@DB-fw5dt]

My first bike was a street triple rs, a year later I bought a Yamaha R1 and now I’m riding a super duke gt. I’ve only been riding 4 years. Don’t ride like a dick, know your limitations and you’ll be fine.

[@rapierstorm213]

I bought a Trident as a first bike. I can't pick anything wrong with it. Great to ride, plenty of power but if you don't be silly, you'll be fine.

[@MCPerez]

Nice review, I have been looking in to get a triumph 660 and this gives me an idea what Im getting myself into

[@mrbutchee1]

Thinking of getting this bike. Im 45 years old. And been riding since i was 17.

[@scottnamo]

What about running the Trident in rain mode as a way to ease into the bike as a beginner?

[@Xavier-ci1ik]

The review I been waiting for!

[@g.donuts3551]

Late comment. Rode one of these for a couple days. Found the front end a bit jarring on anything less than glass smooth pavement. Was also a lot of engine buzz transmitted to grips. Was a fun smaller bike though.

[@williammichels1091]

Thank you for this video! Really informative 👍🏼

[@sacashi333]

I started on a BMW G310R and moved on to this the Trident 660. The G310R IMO is about as perfect as a starter bike as you can get.

[@USRadOrca]

My first motorcycle was a Honda VFR 750 with a single side swing arm. I'm pretty cautious so it took me a while, a year or two, to get comfortable with it. I have to agree with you, not everybody can start out on a motorcycle that has some power and is nimble as some will wreck themselves with it.

[@ErgonBill]

In Australia, and I think the UK as well, learner riders are restricted to 47hp machines - no ifs or buts. In order to ride the Trident, it would have to be detuned from 53hp to 47hp.

[@kwakazak]

its actualy 150kw per tonne in australia and the trident 660 is lams approved at 150kw per tonne

[@nishiki7047]

53 BHP ? My new UK spec 660 in 81BHP

[@connorharboldt6899]

Trident was my first bike and I personally think it’s a great option for someone who’s responsible. Price is great, power is great, ergos are great. Get yourself a trident.

[@miltonzinn8732]

Definitely making this a second bike. I currently have a Harley, which is great on the open road, but I miss having a fun sporty bike.

[@svanteforsberg5212]

Bro I’ve been waiting for someone to make exactly this video🙏🙏

[@jramps_7365]

I just got my trident 660 recently, i've spent years riding a 125cc scooter then switch to trident power and weight difference was my issue I even ride that bike strictly on rain mode for my first 6months but now I can finally ride my trident freely after riding it for couple of months luckly no drops. just close calls of me dropping the bike on slow speeds haha

[@nishiki7047]

Same here

[@rutwikkk]

Hey! Are you going to review scrambler 400x?

[@henriverbrugghen8715]

This bike was my second motorcycle and I liked it a lot, however I did not keep it long enough as my first bike because I felt that I wanted a little bit more power so I decided to get the street triple R. I put around 2k miles on it and loved it, I think this bike is a great second bike if you have some experience but don't want anything crazy, this bike can easily do 100 no problem and can get you killed, I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner rider but would to either an intermediate or a returning rider who hasn't ridden in a while.

[@cavemanproduction5663]

I was looking to this bike today. Are you listening my phone yammie? 😂

[@exexpat11]

My first bike was almost a Honda Sabre. The 80's version. At 16 I would have been dead. The Trident is a Mid Sized bike. Everyone says that it is narrow, short, and moves perfectly. More power and light weight maximizes that power. Short in the brakes dept but could they be worse than a Pre 2016 Evo Sportster?

[@Brabobiker.]

I realy like the looks of this bike! Little regret i bought a mt07 😅

[@klausknudsen106]

Yammie makes some good points, we are not all alike, talking about shapes and sizes, but the mentality also plays a big part, some would be fine to begin on a 1000cc bike (would not recommend), but others should not even be allowed to walk a public sidewalk. Talking about hp and displacement, when he talked about that, i thought to my self, yeah so true, you would not put a beginner on a Yamaha RD350, it only has bout 50hp but it would most likely kill a new rider. ;).. Great video, thanks.

[@GoodBalak]

I was torn between the Ninja 650 and the Trident 660, and went with the Ninja because the power felt immediate and peaky. I felt like it could ride it sedately or even get into some trouble or hooliganism. The Trident just felt very muted and controlled by the riding modes and Traction control.

[@Rockabillykid23]

Would you say this bike would be good for someone who's has been on a 125cc for a few years? Also it has rain mode so can't a new rider ride on rain mode for a few months first?

[@HolidayAtHome]

got mine as my very first bike. Since you have to rev to just only 4000 or so for the first 1000 kilometers it was a pretty good getting used to it phase before being really fast =)

[@dougkohnen]

Has Yams talked about how the Trident compares to his Desert Sled? Specs are similar and I’m interested in how they compare.

[@KarlBuckley-bw3vc]

I started 10 years ago on a Yamaha FZ09 and I was perfectly fine, then after 7 years I traded in the Yamaha for a Ducati Streetfighter V4S. I think it all comes down to maturity.

[@mytmousemalibu]

The 1st gen FZ09's definitely have some brutish nature and it is easily released! Loved mine, now a 23' MT-09SP. I like your style, I definitely want & can see having a Streetfighter V4S, drop dead gorgeous bike!

[@mrstos8553]

Thanx for the awsome content Sir. Im an beginner @43🤫

[@voxa1756]

Kawasaki z400/500 is a great beginner bike, and Honda CB500F is also great 👍

[@frankmericle7379]

Im a beginner rider and my first bike is a 2004 Harley Davidson Fatboy i also took the msf course

[@UnsungVisions]

Good timing! I just bought a trident as my first bike and have been loving it! Eager to track it, but I should probably wait a few weeks / months?

[@rottweilerfun9520]

I'm a Speed Twin 1200 guy , but I think that this is a good looking bike and it seems like it would be a lot of fun , beginner or not.

[@papadoc1090]

Hi yammie. If u have to choose between trident 660 and z900 what will u choose.? Pls help me choose what to buy😁

[@vaibhavsutar6857]

What camera You’re using ? it’s looking good

[@PappaDroid]

Yo Yammi!!! Let's see that ninja7 hybrid on the track. They say it's as fast as a liter with the weight of a 250.

[@anirbanghosh5066]

What after r3? For india couldn't decide...what z gonna be 2nd bike for indian roads?want a comfy inline3 or inline4? Cbr650r, ninja 1000sx or hayabusa or street triple?

[@cecilotto504]

I like it , it's the first time last time buy

[@zrn397]

I honestly was looking at the tiger. But I live in Europe so I would have to lower the power to the regulated 35kw you think thats a plan?

[@devanshsarangpani2083]

Can the trident 660 power wheelie. I have a RE super meteor 650 with 50 hp. So is this going to be a more powerful and fun upgrade, or I should go for a bigger bike.

[@williammendoza9849]

Papa yam, what do you think about old sport bikes?

[@davidleonard8369]

How can you possibly compare the power of an mt07 to the trident? Last time I looked the trident has rider modes so it can be electronically neutered for beginners . The mt07 has throttle cables, how much you twist is how much it goes.

[@CaptainFeathersword]

no clapped out R1 as a first bike....but a turbo 'Busa is fine!

[@ajakeasmanfan7880]

Could u review the speed 400

[@TheJerrydon575]

I'm 43 and started riding 2 years ago. I started on a BMW F900R. The ONLY reason i did was because im a complete idiot lol. I've worked the oilfield for almost 20 years, had a CDL for about that whole time, and drove some on the biggest/heaviest shit that can be driven on roads. Going on 2 wheels was not as easy as I thought it was going to be.

[@KindOldRaven]

These are literally the practise bikes where I did my lessons :p

[@nubbles162]

We only get the limp version here in Australia.

[@ethanbisker2478]

Couldn’t agree more 👌

[@irelandpierre9234]

I've heard that if you select RAIN mode, it cuts the power (HP that is, not much of the torque though) by 40%. If this is the case that would greatly help a disciplined beginner rider!?

[@SuperRider-RS]

rain mode puts the bike in sloppy throttle, power will come slowly, good for beginners, road mode gives some more power...sport mode, bike will be very aggressive acceleration.

[@BackpackandBlack]

I just bought one, and I will say I think it’s manageable. I came from a sport car background but no motorcycle experience and I feel very comfortable on it. That being said… the weight is something you have to get use to for parking and some slow maneuvers.

[@MarissaTheMuse]

What’s your height and weight?

[@jonobester5817]

You gotta have a faring. Can one be installed on this machine?

[@therz0n]

what camera are you using?

[@xionflores5799]

This is my very first big bike. During break-in it has limiter so it's not intimidating.

[@tristandowning5609]

When you talk about "beginner" riders, is it correct to assume you are talking about an American context? In the UK you wouldn't be able to go above a 125cc bike without a full licence and to get a licence you'd have to pass a machine control test and a separate road test on a 600cc motorbike. So when you talk about someone getting their first bike, is it safe to say you are talking about people who haven't done a course on a 600cc?

[@chaoshimura89]

Is it appropriate for trackday?

[@GentielioGaming]

There is a rain mode that holds the power back on this bike?? Then coming from a 125cc maybe one could skip a 400cc like the Triumph speed 400 and ride the first few months on "rain mode" on the 660 trident to get used to the bike. This might be a good idea financial to not upgrade every few months to reach what you want in the end.

[@TauShasla]

yes the rainmode does hold the power back adequatly. saved my stupid ass the other day. started on this machine 2 years ago, can recommend

[@m.rraghav817]

If your starting off riding better off getting a 400 but again depends on your skill level, obviously youll outgrow the 400 in a year or few but you'll learn a lot more

[@brianallen8752]

I see nothing wrong with someone starting on a Trident I own one i love it but i wasn't looking for something i could outrun cops on to old for that its really a fun bike very well balanced throws sude to side great and very smooth

[@danwatt5789]

125cc bikes are beginner bikes. You learn and get your first basic licence on them, then graduate to 500-600cc bikes for your full licence. I'd say that people should ride a 400-600cc bike as their first bike, heavily dependant upon how that bike is tuned and what type of rider it is aimed at. 600cc bikes are middleweight bikes really. American cruisers, like many things American, blow everything out of proportion.

[@logangodofcandy]

Started on a scrambler 1200. Americans are just made of tougher stuff

[@Charlie-Oooooo]

Clickbait. No fair Yammie! 😅 I saw "TOO Aggressive" and clicked immediately 😎😅 Although it turns out to true👍

[@123MRinvisible]

Or you could just buy this as a beginner. Keep it a year on rain mode and after a year you probably want more power. At this point put the bike into road mode.

[@knomesaynmafk4789]

Im in the usa group on facebook for these and its scary the ammount of people that go yeah 1st time riding just bought one of these. I guess not all will hurt themselves obviously but i do wonder if i see it more on the american pages because theres no restrictions on learner or restricted licenses?

[@cirilothomasjrdonato3992]

Is it possible to remap the bike to have a more responsive throtle input?

[@travelwithprince-southafri8721]

2024 -Who won this bike? And how's the experience riding it?

[@Gabe731]

Stand-alone dealership in Brooklyn NY.

[@Mohammad-le4fz]

Bro how can buy that R6? I don't understand how all the process goes, please tell me..

[@johnnypoprock1]

Triumph Trident 660: Now with 15% more zest!

[@cruze86]

I would say it isn’t for immediate beginners but maybe with 2 years of riding experience.

[@imranbmn]

Would love some thoughts and comments on this if anybody is willing to give it. I'm currently on a 2018 MT07 and I'm planning to switch out within a year and the Trident 660 is on my list. I'm only 5'3 and riding around Malaysian traffic is such a headache when you have to tip toe to squeeze between cars. Don't get me wrong, I love my MT07 but the overall suspension feel is really lacking. Not planning to go closer to the liter bike market because well, it'll be too much for the kind of daily riding that I do. Any thoughts on whether the Trident would feel like an upgrade over the MT07?

[@alvhix]

First of all the Trident is in the same category as the MT-07. The suspension in the Trident is a little stiff, you will suffer a bit in unstable roads. The pros of the Trident you should expect are the power delivery, the triple engine which has an amazing sound, the motorcycle style and the overall quality. It really depends on what are you looking for, if you expect to do a lot of city riding with some weekend county roads then this is your bike. If you expect sporty performance, possibility to enter a circuit, then better go for a Triumph Street Triple 765RS or the MT-09 SP.

[@FoAmY99]

I thought about buying a Trident recently, since i totaled my 400. But my dealer had an '18 Street Triple RS for sale, and I fell in love after the test ride. I've had it for about a week, and the few days i've been able to ride (its getting real cold in PA already) i've loved every second of it. This is my only Triumph, but i can say that I'm a Triumph simp now.

[@kieransheehan3001]

Reasonably priced 😅I wish, it cost 10800 euros in Ireland (11800 dollars )😢😢

[@chirag4]

got the 2021 Trident 660 as my 2nd bike . . . might sell it now after 2.5 years & 7500 Kms. . . . may be replaced by the Aprilia RS 457 (could be my 7th bike purchase in 3 years) sold my 1st bike - 2020 KTM 390 Duke after 3 years & 6500 Kms. . . . will be replaced by Triumph Scrambler 400X (receiving delivery on Tuesday) 2022 Hayabusa Gen 3 is my 3rd Bike 2023 Ducati XDiavel is my 4th Bike 2023 Yamaha R15 (155cc only) is my 5th bike, which should've been the first, .... acquired it only because of the Brand, as MT09/MT10/YZF-R1 are not available in India. Loved the old school look of the 2024 XSR900-GP displayed at EICMA 2023 . . . . . I had a Yamaha RXG135 between 1997 & 2004 ... so technically, the R15 is my 2nd Yamaha

[@chirag4]

2024 KTM 990 Duke & 1390 Superduke & Ducati Hypermotard 659 SuperQuadro Mono are going to be most interesting new Launches

[@chirag4]

Bimota bikes have even more premium feel than Ducati / BMW / Triumph Honda failed to impress with CB1000 Hornet

[@chirag4]

Kawasaki confused us with their Z500 moniker , actually being only 450cc

[@FdJ96]

I'm not clumsy, I'm "ergonomically challenged" 🤣🤣

[@VrappStar]

As long as you can avoid the temptation to go full ham on the throttle.

[@johndoe-vm4ps]

Not really , I'll get the xsr900 !

[@RideFree317]

It's like an MT‐09 , too much power if it's your first bike and no experience.

[@johndoe-vm4ps]

Not really , you see , there is a catch ! You can limit the power on any newer motorcycle very easy . It's about 50-60 $ to restrict it and even less to go back to original settings ! I'll get an XSR900 and restrict it to 70-80 bhp , that's gonna be nice !