Kawasaki Z650 Comprehensive Review (Detailed Breakdown)

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Yammie Noob

Yammie Noob

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@yammienoob
@yammienoob 3 жыл бұрын
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@justinyoface911
@justinyoface911 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you were against phone mounts on bikes?
@nicjames91
@nicjames91 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a ZZR600. I dont even have a licence yet. Its your fault.
@luiz576
@luiz576 3 жыл бұрын
Does not matter what you YAMMIES say, I m in love with my Z650 2020.
@jon123marshall
@jon123marshall 3 жыл бұрын
2020 z650 gang, what color scheme?
@intervention7306
@intervention7306 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 2019 z650 in stormcloud blue. And i love it.
@alexduey7868
@alexduey7868 3 жыл бұрын
The fact you enjoy the bike you ride no matter what it is means you've done right!
@luiz576
@luiz576 3 жыл бұрын
Red and metallic spark black (account picture)! And I cant agree about sound complaint. Actually, in higher revs sounds good and has some Z900 whistle when downshifting... Underrated bike, for sure!!
@DaBudaa1
@DaBudaa1 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I have a 2019 Z650 ABS, Blue-grey in color, and I love it.
@slowmotionradio6015
@slowmotionradio6015 Жыл бұрын
I love my Z650 precisely because it's so well behaved. I commute on it daily with no surprises. It's not emotionally demanding to get on it at 5 am to go to work or 10 pm coming back from a late shift. It's always nice to me, and more importantly, to my wife, who is a new rider. But it still has enough power to wake me up when I crack the throttle. It cruises at 80 mph all day, every day. Even with a passenger. And for me personally, it is the most comfortable bike I've ridden... by a significant margin. I've ridden nearly every naked bike in the class, and the narrow seat the Z has feels really well settled. It's nimble and light as well, it really feels at home navigating traffic in town and on the freeway. The Z650's greatest strength is that is predictable 24/7. It's the golden retriever of motorcycles, and that's just fine. That said, yes, the throttle totally sucks.
@TheParaxore
@TheParaxore Жыл бұрын
I feel the same about my Versys 650 which I believe has the same engine.
@digvijaysabharwal
@digvijaysabharwal Жыл бұрын
Would you be kind enough to answer something for me? I didn't get a chance to take it our for a test ride, but a lot of individuals are complaining about a drastic lift off, almost like an unplanned wheelie, if you aren't careful with the start/launch. That could be a make or break for me because of the safety issue. Would appreciate any input, thanks!
@slowmotionradio6015
@slowmotionradio6015 Жыл бұрын
@@digvijaysabharwal I've never experienced any unexpected liftoff. It would only be possible through revving very high in a low gear and launching, which should never be "surprising".
@mathll337
@mathll337 6 ай бұрын
​@@digvijaysabharwal quizás sea tarde pero tengo la moto y es dócil en el despegue a menos que lo aceleres mucho
@TheCandycanedp99
@TheCandycanedp99 3 жыл бұрын
Heres the thing. often times If you talk to someone as experienced as Yammie about a beginner bike theyre going to have a lot of seemingly negative things to say. That isn't because the bike is actually inherently BAD or anything.... its just that a more versed rider notices the quirks on a bike far more easily, they've ridden enough bikes to know what they do and do not want. I own a 2020 Ninja 650 KRT (the full fairings version, not naked) and it's my first bike minus dirt bikes as a kid. I Watched tons of reviews on it before purchasing and I wasn't paying too much attention when people said "First gear is twitchy below 5k rpm" or "it just needs this... or that" and thats because I knew every SINGLE bike i wanted would have some caveat. Talk to 20 peope and each of them will tell you something different that they did or did not like about the same bike. Because it all comes down to preference. Thats why I cant stand the "10 reasons i HATE my (insert bike here)". It shapes a specific bike in a bad light and its not fair to impressionable buyers. Take EVERYTHING a reviewer says with a grain of salt. Fact is, most bikes are awesome. The Ninja 650 is no different . Find what works for you, what you do and dont like and Fuck what the reviews say because at the end of the day its YOU purchasing it with YOUR likes and dislikes. So dont let any review tell you what is and is not a good bike. Thats your choice to make. Many riders tell a beginner you need to look for this... or that in a first motorcycle. Other than controllable power and reliability every single other characteristic about a beginner motorcycle is up to preference . Don't be too picky on a first bike. Dont be stupid either. Do research. I feel like in typing this i've probably said the same thing a couple different ways and thats because I cant stress these points enough. Ride your ride. and remember : you look a lot cooler with skin. so wear your gear. ATGAT
@Nasosdag
@Nasosdag 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree.
@uglyjihad
@uglyjihad 3 жыл бұрын
I really want the 650 but at the same time I want the z650 or mt07 due to insurance costs, I may go with the z650 due to lower MSRP and tbh I like the look of it a lot more
@TheCandycanedp99
@TheCandycanedp99 3 жыл бұрын
@@uglyjihad as someone who owns the 650.... go with the mt07. unless you want to upgrade in a year. main reason being the sound. the mt07 is a beast of its class in every way, though i like the 650's looks more, the mt07 sounds better and performs better. (that goes for the z650 too, same engine. BAD SOUND. and an expensive exhaust only turns it from lawnmower to loud lawnmower.) honestly i cant say enough good things about the 650. but thats its only flaw in my opinion and its a big one.
@darthkarroto2183
@darthkarroto2183 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCandycanedp99 is the exhaust really that bad
@darthkarroto2183
@darthkarroto2183 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCandycanedp99 the mto7 just seems like a lot for a first bike
@lilgee9159
@lilgee9159 3 жыл бұрын
A bike actually being plain, efficient and nothing special. Reeeeally sounds good to me
@shah9394
@shah9394 3 жыл бұрын
No its not...a bike needs to have soul or you will not ride....trust me
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted something plain, efficient, and nothing special I’d get a Toyota Carolla.
@Pusfilth
@Pusfilth 3 жыл бұрын
Lame guy
@leynadIX
@leynadIX 3 жыл бұрын
If It is plain and eficient, its good, the special is the looks. But the jerky acceleration makes not plain
@philippwalder4328
@philippwalder4328 3 жыл бұрын
puristic*
@borisrz3080
@borisrz3080 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from a 2007 R6 and 2020 MT03, I really enjoy my 2020 Z650. Butter smooth transmission. Light and nimble on city roads. Plenty of power for the highway. Comfortable ergonomics for me.
@luiz576
@luiz576 3 жыл бұрын
The same! Agree!
@intervention7306
@intervention7306 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the torque no matter where the rpms are. Has gotten me out of the way plenty of times when idiots switch lanes without looking.
@Soh90
@Soh90 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. Current owner of a 2014 ZX6R with a full TBR exhaust and Power Commander. Yet ive been scouring the inter webs for a cheap Z650 or Ninja 650. I don’t need an exhaust, power blah blah blah, all I want is a fender eliminator, some good tires, good weather, and some friends.
@jwayne347
@jwayne347 3 жыл бұрын
hey, I'm thinking about changing my MT03 for Z650! can you please tell a bit more about your experience? I like MT03, it's light and comfortable, and ergos fit me well but I want more low- and mid-end power and torque (not a fan of revving the engine to 10k rpm), and I don't like the "buzzines" of MT03 on 6500 rpm and above) how is Z650 in that regard?
@wokeevoke
@wokeevoke 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwayne347 If you want a nice torque in low-mid rpms just get yourself an MT07, it's really fun although the exhaust sound is absolute trash until you change it. And it's one of the cheapest bikes out there, if not the most in his category.
@fisiosaiter
@fisiosaiter 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a motorcycle that does it all. And the Jack of all trades will lack something here and there but on the other hand you have something that will always be useful. When you understand the concept this is an excellent bike.
@cfed95
@cfed95 3 жыл бұрын
Yammie now: The Z650 is fine. It's uninspiring. Yammie 3 months ago: Shockingly good!
@howiethehowitzer7398
@howiethehowitzer7398 3 жыл бұрын
Lol this guy is so inconsistent.
@christopherjones5700
@christopherjones5700 3 жыл бұрын
@@howiethehowitzer7398 as a beginner who hasn't made up my mind on what bike to get, this guy is entertaining but confuses the absolute shit out of me. Basically just a reminder to think for yourself at the end of the day.
@howiethehowitzer7398
@howiethehowitzer7398 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjones5700 you are absolutely correct. With a grain of salt.
@xelnjare3945
@xelnjare3945 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjones5700 - don't ever buy a bike solely on what a YT "personality" thinks (or anyone for that matter).
@ChrisJones-yt8zp
@ChrisJones-yt8zp 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjones5700 This is one case where you are me and I am you.
@bethanydylan4402
@bethanydylan4402 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE my Z650 it is an amazing bike I’m a relatively beginner rider and I’m a 5’3 female it’s not that heavy and the seat height is not unreasonably tall
@TheFerwing
@TheFerwing 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put both feet down at the same time?
@bethanydylan4402
@bethanydylan4402 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFerwing yes and I added a custom seat that that even raised the seat hight about half an inch
@nina.bum24
@nina.bum24 3 жыл бұрын
Omg finally someone my height and a girl, this give me good hope that I can ride a taller bike lmao
@michylmagdaleno6421
@michylmagdaleno6421 3 жыл бұрын
Im stuck between getting a 650 and a 900 literally just because of the engine sounds. But im curious, in person does the 650 sound good or is it a lost cause compared to the inline 4 z900
@byrek8975
@byrek8975 3 жыл бұрын
are u hot?
@peterwilson8039
@peterwilson8039 3 жыл бұрын
This video bothered me because the 650 class has always been a sweet spot for me, all the way back to the days of the 650 Bonneville. You get highway capability and way more than adequate performance in a lightweight, nimble, relatively inexpensive and comfortably upright package. So even if the Z650 is "worst in class", it's the worst of a group of motorcycles that for many riders are spot on - and that would have to include the air-cooled Enfield Interceptor.
@conradlobo421
@conradlobo421 3 жыл бұрын
Give me a z650 on the street with traffic and I will show you how much character it has and you can bring any bike however powerful it is and I will smoke you out because the z650 is damn easy to ride and control on the street. A very practical bike.
@cypher6258
@cypher6258 2 жыл бұрын
This video confirms that everyone has different opinions about certain bikes, I’m 5’11 and started off on a duke 390 and then went for a 2018 z650. I loved the z650 and would recommend it. For those wondering I now ride an aprillia RSV4
@Dosk515
@Dosk515 Жыл бұрын
How was the difference from duke? That's where I'm at now lol looking at 650 or gsxs
@TJP23
@TJP23 3 жыл бұрын
I had an Z650 for a year and half and it was an excelent bike! With an akrapovic was a blast! The bike was realy fun if you know how to ride it! Now i have an Z900 and some times i miss the little Z650!
@michylmagdaleno6421
@michylmagdaleno6421 3 жыл бұрын
Is the sound of the z650 good? Ive watched plenty of videos and im skeptical to get the z650 just because i hear the sound isnt all that good. And the z900 with an austin racing exhaust sounds like a monster.
@TJP23
@TJP23 3 жыл бұрын
@@michylmagdaleno6421 the z650 in real live sounds much better! I had one with the akrapovic titanium and it sound like a beast! My nighbours always complained!
@stephensniff
@stephensniff 3 жыл бұрын
How do you like the Z900 compared to the z650? I have a 2017 z650 which I love but I am also ready for more power. Thinking about buying a new bike in the near future.
@TJP23
@TJP23 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephensniff the Z900 is a much better bike than the Z650! You will like!
@andrelebel8566
@andrelebel8566 2 жыл бұрын
@@TJP23 as much as I love the look and sound of the z900 I can’t suggest it over the Z650 because to me it feels like a waste. The 650 has more than enough power to keep me entertained but if I was to get the 900 I’d be concerned I wouldn’t even really get to use the extra power without constantly getting pulled over. I mean having a 700hp car is nice but what’s the point if you can only use 250 due to speed limits and what not. They say it’s better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow and I totally agree
@marknolan8052
@marknolan8052 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you want, at 66 years old, I love my 2017 Z650. Being retired, it's a fun bike for backroads & secondary highways. I have owned everything from 125's to 1100's, I enjoy this bike more than any I have owned. It's not the fastest, but it's not slow either. I'm short, the low seat height is a plus. Any other bike in its class has at least another inch of seat height. Not into cruisers.
@Alkocen
@Alkocen Жыл бұрын
I guess people are different and I'm glad that everybody has a choice on the matter. As a beginner, I bought myself 390 duke, mostly due to all the reviews. I've ridden it around 20km and I put it on sale. The bike just didn't click for me. But my bike school just got a new z650 and I absolutely love riding with that. It's lightweight, nimble and effortless to ride. I'm not looking for pushing donuts in a parking lot and to be honest riding a bike on it's own is already exciting enough for me.
@thatd15bej82
@thatd15bej82 3 ай бұрын
Height?
@carolyneakili1
@carolyneakili1 3 жыл бұрын
I love my z650 especially for commuting in Los Angeles traffic. I’m 5’3” and this bike is light, nimble and fun. It is quiet but my neighbors appreciate when I start it up early in the morning as opposed to my Harley. Yes, another bike you’re probably not a fan of but I love you anyway!
@rogersalomegonzalez5594
@rogersalomegonzalez5594 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to get a Harley someday
@keithanderson6358
@keithanderson6358 2 жыл бұрын
My wife is 5’6” and is probably going to get one for the reasons you just mentioned: It feels lighter than it actually is, is nimble, and had a low seat (so she feels comfortable and can get both feet down). I was surprised to see Yammie pan it here.
@carolyneakili1
@carolyneakili1 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithanderson6358 I was surprised also. Your wife will love it! Ride safe!
@andrelebel8566
@andrelebel8566 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithanderson6358 I’m 6’1 and ride this bike fairly comfortably as well. The odd time I’ll get what feels like a cramp in my hip but I just adjust my feet on the pegs or sometimes I’ll even sit on the passenger seat while I ride just to stretch out a bit more. This bike is great for all sizes
@keithanderson6358
@keithanderson6358 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrelebel8566 Actually riding on the passenger seat is a good idea. I have an MT-07 and it’s not too much bigger than the z650 and only slightly heavier. Although I prefer the MT-07 for myself, I’m still perplexed why the z650 gets a bad wrap. I love riding my wifes’ z650 when I get a chance. It’s a great bike!
@MoeOthman
@MoeOthman 3 жыл бұрын
I like Yamaha, but I hate how they refuse to “update” the tech on their my-07 line.
@lunoirxx
@lunoirxx 3 жыл бұрын
Other than the suspension, I think the bike is perfect. It's a simple fun bike and doesn't need fancy electronics.
@bernielomax4859
@bernielomax4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@lunoirxx I’ve been suspecting that’s (lack of electronics) really just seen as a shortcoming thru competition feature comparison bias(and not really an issue - in the vein of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”) Your note about the suspension being its only downfall seems to confirm the mass data I’ve come across when zeroing in on a next purchase. Also seems like a pretty straightforward mod for anyone decent with a wrench, and not expensive. I’ve only ridden a TTR-230 (lots of other various motorsports experience however) - and After a lot of online research I’m thinking an MT-07 likely my perfect first road bike once I get my license
@lunoirxx
@lunoirxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernielomax4859 It really is. I've been riding bikes for 3 years now and I love my MT-07.
@BmxDieseldude
@BmxDieseldude 3 жыл бұрын
What tech does it really need though? On a 70hp bike id much rather a smooth throttle on one tune that just works rather than multiple maps that respond in a jerky manor. TC would never kick in anyways unless you're acting like a total fool on painted wet pavement. Aside from maybe cruise control im not sure what electronics would actually benefit the bike. Sometimes simple is just better.
@MoeOthman
@MoeOthman 3 жыл бұрын
@@BmxDieseldude tft display was a big difference for me.
@jesparon
@jesparon 3 жыл бұрын
Yammie did a lot of vlogs about Z650 and had to bag it how bad and how good and how bad and how good it is. How many vlogs are there on the MT07, not many. Subconsciencely he loves the Z650.
@mdf2mdf287
@mdf2mdf287 2 жыл бұрын
Low seat height, great for short leg inseam riders. I did some riding on one of these, and whilst it may not stack up to you guys I found it a good experience. As I am only five foot four with a very short twenty six inch inseam, with its light weight and low seat height it inspired confidence in all areas of riding. It handled well, was a great commuter, frugal, cheap to insure, had enough grunt to get you out of trouble and cruised at 70mph all day....it did exactly what it said it would do on the tin... I would recommend any short rider to try one of these, if only to sharpen your slow speed skills where you can safely get both feet down in the event of a wobble, rather than having to pick up your taller bike because your ballerina tip too act was too unstable.
@HengkySuryadi
@HengkySuryadi 3 жыл бұрын
Slap on "Triumph" logo and he'll tell a different story.
@leonoberti8248
@leonoberti8248 3 жыл бұрын
Fax
@h3llb3nt
@h3llb3nt 3 жыл бұрын
He did have negative things to say about the trident
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. 2 жыл бұрын
Slap a Yamaha logo on it
@christianmccall4542
@christianmccall4542 3 жыл бұрын
I had a z650 last summer for all of a month before I got stolen. It was the first new motorcycle I ever bought and I miss it every day.
@Truthosaurus
@Truthosaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Special place in hell for a motorcycle thief. I know your pain.
@BmxDieseldude
@BmxDieseldude 3 жыл бұрын
This bike excels at one thing - fitting smaller riders. He's right that it doesn't have as much character as the competition but if you're the sort that is worried about tip toeing your bike at stops the z650 will give you that sure footed easy reach to the ground. Id say its the most ideal 650 for new riders under 5'6". The seat height might only be a hair shorter but its much narrower meaning your limited leg length can be spent going down to the ground instead of out to the sides. Remember a first bike doesn't have to be your last - so once you get use to balancing the weight you can move over to something with a little more zest later. The lil z has its merits.
@The_MadFatter
@The_MadFatter 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m 6tf and on the normal ninja 650 it feels small it’s fun don’t get me wrong. Would be nice if it had a little bit more hight
@kreigmonch
@kreigmonch 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. My wife, 5'3", absolutely loves her ninja 650. I, 6'1", tried it out and really hated it. I'm currently on an mt07 and she hates how tall it is for her lol
@zedz445
@zedz445 3 жыл бұрын
A 5'5" here, planning to get this bike as a daily suburb commuter filtering city traffic n motorway riding. This review actually convinces me even more.
@The_MadFatter
@The_MadFatter 3 жыл бұрын
@@zedz445 you would love it homie and can’t really go wrong with the price. Only down side it likes to heat op fast if ur not doing a constraint 60km/h but once u get going it cools down fast.
@xelnjare3945
@xelnjare3945 3 жыл бұрын
Lil Z? The 400 would like a word...
@joshperotti4050
@joshperotti4050 3 жыл бұрын
I like my z650. TFT is great. I'm a short rider and it fits me great.
@jangrewe
@jangrewe 3 жыл бұрын
If the one thing you mention about your Z650 being great is the TFT, that tells a lot about the whole motorcycle. ;-)
@domenicofoti9887
@domenicofoti9887 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 2020 z650 🤷‍♂️ For a beginner bike, you cant beat the price. I get plenty of compliments, especially now with an exhaust. In my opinion it is the best looking 650, and I would be hard pressed to find a more nimble bike going in and out of traffic.
@xM4XvPA1Nx
@xM4XvPA1Nx 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of exhaust do you have on it?
@domenicofoti9887
@domenicofoti9887 2 жыл бұрын
@@xM4XvPA1Nx Two Brothers S1R Exhaust System
@jdfpjdisddhlrudueieo
@jdfpjdisddhlrudueieo 7 ай бұрын
I own my first bike 2023 z650 it’s been one year now I have learned a lot she’s really good on the back roads I love it 💚
@matthewsnook2774
@matthewsnook2774 3 жыл бұрын
Still want one, I'm a sucker for that green
@seanfletter9098
@seanfletter9098 3 жыл бұрын
I have a z400 as my begginer bike and I love it. I live in a small coastal town surrounded by forest and mountains. No speed limits in town above 40mph and 55 on hwy. I love the small motorcycle for small town riding.
@Soh90
@Soh90 3 жыл бұрын
The Z400 is a solid bike 💪🏾. My friend has a Ninja 400 and we do group rides all the time. I have a ZX6 and I always love riding his bike. It is proper fun lol. I still kinda wish I hadn’t sold my bike. Super sports have no place on the streets. Never sell her mate!
@terpdx
@terpdx 3 жыл бұрын
Z400 is a fantastic bike. It competes in its class much better than the Z650. Still, as a shorter rider, the Z650 is my first choice for my next bike. The MT-07 was just too tall for me, and the SV650 felt a little heavy, although it's a really close choice for me between the Z and the SV.
@matthilgers9987
@matthilgers9987 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get this video. You had two other videos where the footage from this video comes from actually critiquing the z650 while you're riding it and you had a lot of good things to say about it. Another video did a naked bike middleweight comparison with the z650 placing pretty well. So why the change in tone?
@Surferarno97
@Surferarno97 3 жыл бұрын
For the views 😂
@beansman2010
@beansman2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@Surferarno97 This is the second video he did with this same bike, doing the same thing. One video says it's great the next says it's the "best of the worst" I thought this was an old video
@lokaj1474
@lokaj1474 3 жыл бұрын
Because loving then hating is good content. It just sucks because you won't be able to get an honest review
@AvenHealz
@AvenHealz 3 жыл бұрын
@@lokaj1474 Honest review from a z650 owner 2 years now: as kawasaki stated themselves: FIRST BIG BIKE, with that said, indeed doesnt excell in anything and its not too bad in anything, and, its cheaper than all other 650s.
@Fearless154
@Fearless154 3 жыл бұрын
The z650 on itself is a good bike. The problem is mt07 and sv650 got more character and fun factors in the engine. Just because someone saying the bike is boring doesn't mean it's a bad bike. It's a very subjective matter and can be changed from one rider to another one.
@cedricparkinson3635
@cedricparkinson3635 3 жыл бұрын
2021 Kawi Ninja 650. I have had 73 motorcycles of all kinds and the Ninja 650 is one of the best if not the best that I have had. Goldilocks, would choose this bike as it is just right for all occasions. Newbee's, experienced riders and old timers and returning riders will love it.
@andrelebel8566
@andrelebel8566 2 жыл бұрын
73 bikes!! That’s awesome!! 👍🏼
@hotflywheel01
@hotflywheel01 Жыл бұрын
You are a comedian, motorcycling isnt the same for all riders, I've had R1 to Pan European. The Z650 is a very capable bike and has features you chose not to mention.
@7oyful
@7oyful 3 жыл бұрын
- best look in the class - best brakes in the class - best transmission in the class - best riding comfort in the class - best fuel economy in the class
@alexduey7868
@alexduey7868 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but it doesnt have trash suspension and a cross plane for 3 more hp like a mt07....
@the_hippykiller22
@the_hippykiller22 3 жыл бұрын
Best look is arguable, I think it's very bland and prefer my SV650 100 times more. For the rest maybe, but the transmission on most of the others is great too, a seat can be replaced and fuel economy is very close between each bike.
@Soh90
@Soh90 3 жыл бұрын
100x the best looking bike in the class in my opinion. Kawi always makes pretty bikes. That was the main reason why I got a previous gen ZX6. The ONLY ONLY reason why I didn’t buy a Z650 over my MT-07 was the freaking sound of that bike. The MT-07 is ugly as sin, but dammit that thing is a riot on the streets.
@lokaj1474
@lokaj1474 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's just that the parallel twin of the Kawasaki gets a lot of hate but do not touch on the positives of the bike. I own one and I'm ready to upgrade to a liter bike but I had zero regrets on getting one
@Soh90
@Soh90 3 жыл бұрын
@@lokaj1474 the ZX6 is more than the sum of its parts. I think the issue is that people put exhausts on them. DO NOT put an exhaust on a Z650. It will sound terrible. Keep the stock exhaust and just have fun with the thing. Bikes like the MT-07 DESERVE and exhaust. But the Z650? Nah, keep your money for gas lol
@seliaquinn8451
@seliaquinn8451 3 жыл бұрын
I got z650 used for my first bike. I absolutely love it as a female rider, especially since I have the beautiful pearl color. It's a great bike for a smaller rider, I'm 5'5". Does it sound like a moped? Yes. But other than that it's a great bike to learn on with enough power to do what I want. You definitely will not yeet yourself to oblivion on this bike. I mostly commute, do a little touring, and cruise the twisty NH back roads on it. I do not want a full on crotch rocket sport bike. There was absolutely nothing on the market last summer for used bikes, of course I would have gotten an sv650 or mt07 given the option but I didn't have one! This bike was the only naked I could find north of Boston used but not a POS and it was mint with the best sport touring tires on it already. Definitely feels like I will outgrow it in a few years but for my first bike I absolutely cannot complain and definitely recommend it.
@sarthakmohapatra3738
@sarthakmohapatra3738 3 жыл бұрын
Wait !!! Ur first was a 650 ?
@Fearless154
@Fearless154 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarthakmohapatra3738 Well in the US and Europe it's considered to be a beginner bike.
@sarthakmohapatra3738
@sarthakmohapatra3738 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fearless154 yeah but it's outrageous. How can a newbie control a 60 hp machine all of a sudden ?!?! And not mention the lack of riding skills.
@Fearless154
@Fearless154 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarthakmohapatra3738 60HP it's not a big deal and perfectly suited for a newbie. Nothing is extreme or snappy on the z650 and it's a smooth and docile bike, You'll really need to poke it with the stick and purposely asking for it in order to get in trouble on the z650. It's hard for you to grasp because we are living in different motorcycle cultures in Asia something like z650 is considered to be a full-sized expert bike but in the US and Europe, it's something you get to learn or if you need an easy commuter bike.
@sarthakmohapatra3738
@sarthakmohapatra3738 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fearless154 I guess u r right
@jgcapers3860
@jgcapers3860 3 жыл бұрын
Props for saying the SV650 is a better ride than the Ducati Monster. Such truth.
@joslow9151
@joslow9151 3 жыл бұрын
Cap
@Motor_.MantraYT
@Motor_.MantraYT Жыл бұрын
From where I am even the Duke 390 is considered a big bike, most people start with a 100CC bike that makes 10Hp and going to a 650 Twin with 67 HP is a huge jump and here the 650's from Kawasaki is considered an entry level superbike, it's a dream for many. Even tho I ride an S1000RR and an ADV 390 I'm still considering buying a Versys 650 because of that 650 twin engine, so it depends on where you're from in the world
@weeleedood
@weeleedood 3 жыл бұрын
RECONSIDER ( All on Point but none the less I am a Full Time Rider on a 2019z650 and I’d say it’s a Great bike any day of the week)💯💯
@bastiaan19948
@bastiaan19948 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to keep filling half of the video with all kinds of advertisement i Will unsubscribe.
@richiez5756
@richiez5756 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha paid promotion. The other reviews always said that the Z is better than the MT, but you're the only one who can completely destroy it.
@Saielb
@Saielb 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally looking for reviews this morning. Yammie get out of my head bro!
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 3 жыл бұрын
Rando thought but I think they should change the 650 platform to a triple cylinder. Would keep it’s good low end power but increase top end potential. Than and I think it would be fun for each bike in the class to gain an cylinder as you go up in size 😂. Z400= twin, Z650= triple, Z900= I4. Kinda like the MT 07, 09, and 10
@richsuavetv7781
@richsuavetv7781 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly this guy is a hater of z650. With a price point like this and features, it is certainly one of the best middle weights out there.
@rocketrollsvlogs7625
@rocketrollsvlogs7625 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Yam used to talk smack about Ninja 400s???
@ali-5881
@ali-5881 3 жыл бұрын
Bro make your mind up, in your video “so you want an MT07” you literally said the z650 was the better choice and that was only 8 months ago... can you at least make a video comparing the two? If not then at least say one thing and stick to it because I’m confused af
@mircea5013
@mircea5013 7 ай бұрын
He's only making videos for money and to confuse you, and to make you watch more. This was the last video I watch from him. He is of no help, shameless clickbaiter as well. Skip him, mate.
@seangraves2039
@seangraves2039 3 жыл бұрын
2020 black and green. I have fun everytime I get on this bike :)
@elisauco8666
@elisauco8666 3 жыл бұрын
ER in Er-6 stands for essential riding I believe, every bike derived from it feels this way, Er-6n, Er-6f, Ninja 650, Versys and now Z650. I think they are great first/second bikes for this very reason, just a standard reliable motorcycle, nothing to fall in love with, but you'll learn to ride and know what you want from your next one.
@jamescross6476
@jamescross6476 Жыл бұрын
Everyone’s loving there Z650 But I’m in love with my ER6-N
@selfeffect
@selfeffect 3 жыл бұрын
The 2021 z650 is lovely, nice smile
@elcheekoful
@elcheekoful 4 ай бұрын
I rented the Kawasaki Z650. It was a great bike all around. Highway speeds, interstate, back roads, no problem. My issue was height.. im 5'10. My knees got cramped while riding. However my cousin is about a a inch or two shorter, it fot him amazing. Literally everything else was amazing. This bike does 100mph like nothing. I dont get why alot of people hate this bike?
@s.p.9582
@s.p.9582 3 жыл бұрын
Long term ownership makes a difference imo. Been riding a 2009 ER-6N rider for 7 years. Both road & track. Full suspension upgrade, steel braided brake lines & Dunlop Q3s make it a fun little weapon! Fwiw, compression ratio is slightly higher on my generation 650 too. The Z650's lower compression ratio (and lower redline) is definitely noticeable when riding spirited. The Z650 does however have better stock suspension (than previous gens) I've ridden all the other middleweight naked twins too. First pick goes to the SV650. Engine 'feels' the strongest of them all and the chassis really feels well planted. Can't really describe it. Excellent engine sound and exhaust note too! I just didn't want to deal v-twin valve maintenance. Much easier to do the valves on the Kawi 650s (imo). FZ/MT-07 has a really tight cockpit and pretty crude suspension but a devil of an engine! Great bike for a smaller person (I'm 5'11") I can only knock the Kawi 650 twins for ONE thing only; the 180° engine firing order. 270° sounds awesome. That's subjective though. Plus I'm often too busy having a blast on my ER-6N to care! 😁✌️
@boldstar69
@boldstar69 3 жыл бұрын
This guy constantly makes the worst motorcycle content on youtube
@Krotos1970
@Krotos1970 3 жыл бұрын
I test road a 2022 recently, I still have to compare it with the mt07 though but I did like the exhaust sound and the digital bluetooth instrument panel is great!
@miloregnix_vlogs293
@miloregnix_vlogs293 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2017 matt silver z650 as my first big bike in the UK and cant complain, working to get my dream bike s1000rr once insurance premium goes down lol
@PupsterFace
@PupsterFace 3 жыл бұрын
When I bought my first bike last summer I hesitated between the Z650 and the MT-07... I'm glad that I went for the Yam!
@daghetto101
@daghetto101 7 ай бұрын
could not go wrong with both
@tylerwilliams1882
@tylerwilliams1882 3 ай бұрын
The Z650 is the swiss army knife of motorcycles. It does about everything, but at the end of the day, a stand-alone tool will always be better.
@pitahbread_
@pitahbread_ 2 жыл бұрын
As my first bike, the z650 in the 35 kw wariant might just be what im looking for.
@jamestorres5582
@jamestorres5582 Жыл бұрын
I like n respect your reviews n opinions . You're like a BOSS. Thank you
@Slip0824
@Slip0824 8 ай бұрын
My 2022 Z650 is great. It was an obvious pick for me.
@billwhite7015
@billwhite7015 6 ай бұрын
I've never thought much of Yammie's ill-considered, unknowledgeable opinions. This review merely reinforces that attitude.
@albass94
@albass94 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I am a noob and just got into motorcycling, Kawasaki Z650 is my first bike. I already love it, it is beautiful, i don't care about sound so much as it makes me feel wind in my face and speed gaining under the tires. This is my beginner bike, so it's not much to you, but I do love it... but damn, choosing November in the midwest to get into motorcycles was not the best choice.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 8 ай бұрын
I have the Dunlop D214 on my CB650R and I haven't had any issues with them yet. I've ridden in the wet and dry and ridden quite hard on them a few times in good conditions and they haven't given me any trouble yet. That said, I have heard a few people poo-poo these tyres so maybe I should be a bit more careful on them. Done 1,600km on mine so far and they have been fine so far.
@shawnbrooks1351
@shawnbrooks1351 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend that you don't pay to much attention to this and research for yourself.
@betahours9416
@betahours9416 7 ай бұрын
Its important that the z650 is a street bike. As you mention theres nothing thats particularly sporty about the bike. But nonetheless it is a good option for people who want to return to riding with out getting a bike that is purposed towards racing. Some people like putting around
@UrbanMoto
@UrbanMoto 3 жыл бұрын
I just sold my Z650 for a MT07. The engine is night and day better and the way the torque comes on is amazing. The Z650 to your point is just to vanilla...
@ragimundvonwallat8961
@ragimundvonwallat8961 2 жыл бұрын
suspension on those mt07 tho
@sunnibird
@sunnibird 7 ай бұрын
Did you forget you picked this over the SV650 in another video??
@Wales256
@Wales256 3 жыл бұрын
Think this video is overly critical of the 650, i got one summer 2020 and ive had fun riding this thing. Performs well. Takes corners easy. Agree with the dunlop tyre thing, however if your a fair weather rider who only likes to enjoy the sun (UK) then it shouldnt be an issue for you. I love me 650 👌
@armadilllo
@armadilllo 7 ай бұрын
One of the best bikes ever and I've owned a LOT! I sold my first one and am buying another.
@AntaresSQ01
@AntaresSQ01 3 жыл бұрын
First, this isn't a fair comparison, the new 650s are behind the crop true, but this bike has been out since 2006. The Fz07 was a decade from being born, the SV650 was a heavy and crappy handling whale, the Monster was blowing it's engines up left right and center. The ER6 platform at the time was the most powerful and most reliable. Sure it may not have the character but that's just cos you have a crappy exhaust on it, put a good one on there it will be just as lively as an SV650 or MT07. Problem with the platform is that as times moved on, they didn't, in fact they moved in the opposite direction. But an early 2010s ER6 still has vastly superior handling to the MT07. There were a lot of things that were missed out in this review that make this one of the best selling platforms for a reason, this bike has near 50 miles of range on an MT07, better brakes and suspension, better wind protection and top speed 11:30 is just straight up not true, The only singular reason the FZ07 feels spicier is because it has a shorter 1st and 2nd gear and a shorter wheelbase. Thats it. Off the line the Kawi 650s demolishes the FZ07, and sure it's not as much of a wheelie machine but is overall so much faster around the bends. I do have to say that most of the issues outlined are a cause of devolution. Honestly. The Z650, might be a bad and boring 650, but the previous models are different. Even stock the old models make 5bhp more, rev to 11,000 instead of 10,000 rpm, and I heavily disagree at 10:25, they are much easier to open up ECU flash for 300 bucks and you've fixed every throttle issue whilst gaining another 5bhp, It's just as much of a worthwhile upgrade as the new tyres, the old Tokico's are significantly better than the Nissins that are on the newer models, put a braided line on there and you got yourself some very competent brakes. The suspension is better, the bike is more stable, and used it's likely gonna be significantly cheaper. I genuinely don't think the upgrades are anything noteworthy on this platform, you exchange an already decent LCD dash for a TFT that's yea more colorful but shows the exact same things, hell the switchgear is unchanged since 2006. Honestly get yourself and older 650 and it will definitely beat out ALL the competition for fun/dollar. Now my fanboy rant is over. But honestly you're painting these bikes in such a bad light when in reality a 2009-2016 model er6 still spanks most of the modern offerings or is on an equal level for significantly cheaper.
@martymcfly6976
@martymcfly6976 3 жыл бұрын
Damn dude. Did a guy on a FZ07 steal your girl? Lol
@AntaresSQ01
@AntaresSQ01 3 жыл бұрын
@@martymcfly6976 Nah, I had all 3 of the mentioned bikes, that's why I'm saying. People paint the kawi 650 line as boring and soulless. And sure, I love me an FZ07 with a full akra, but the Kawis just outperform both the other bikes in so many areas. It's a bit like the BMW S1000RR, people say it's boring and soulless but everyone still agrees it's the "best" liter bike. The Kawi 650s are in the same boat but since the whole 650 market is built on a budget this is often forgotten. As I said there is a reason they are the best selling and a reason they keep winning in the supertwin category. I track my old 2011 ER6F regularly, I also tracked the 2015 MT07 and i thought I was going to die the brakes and suspension are THAT bad. Sure around town noone cares and wooooo it can wheeelieeee. Doesn't make the bike actually good. I just hate it when people are steered away from actually good and worthwhile bikes based on the fact that it had a meh sound with a shitty exhaust and that it has 7 less bhp on PAPER
@RussSchampers
@RussSchampers 2 жыл бұрын
Color me surprised. I suppose I should be happy this was my first bike as I have no frame of reference; I am completely happy with it. Perhaps ignorance truly is bliss. A part of me will always wonder what the fz-07 life would have been like, however I think the z650 still has a place. It was the perfect first bike for me being on the more responsible side. Has a nice low seat height for us more vertically challenged folk. Lastly and of course subjective, I preferred the look of the z650 when compared to the sv650 and the fz-07.
@JMang101
@JMang101 Ай бұрын
Was Contemplating between z650, triumph trident, or z900 (latter two have power modes for a beginner). I'm coming from a grom. Ultimately I couldn't justify spending over $7k for my first "bio bike" and just bought a used 2020 z650 that has 52 miles on it for $5000 USD. 9/10 condition. Test drove it for 2min felt fine. Let's see how it goes!
@robb7177
@robb7177 7 ай бұрын
Susuki café is forward leaning and heavy on arms and neck especially after 1 hour of riding. Forward leaning bike are uncomfortable as hell . just get a 600 four cylinder in-line if that’s your preference. V sports were created to compete in their exclusive competitions because v twins could never compete with i line 4 . I like V twins or L V’s but they aren’t as usable as a parallel twin for average person. Unless you get a standard and like the sound and looks like Ducati etc . I think kawi are trying the standard riding position on a modern platform. Pretty genius. Not to crazy on the power , good on gas , lots of torque and a good comfortable safe bike to ride . I like it
@Jurica-mtb
@Jurica-mtb 3 жыл бұрын
Subjective review. Z650 is a fine reliable bike. It is beginner friendly, comfortable, affordable. It's not a track beast but it doesn't mean it sucks. Another thing, I never liked that Yammie boy.
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. 2 жыл бұрын
Very subjective
@MisterSensitivity
@MisterSensitivity Жыл бұрын
I liked this review until the end when you compared the z650 to the triumph which you hadn't ridden yet 😂 you lost all credibility at that point.
@pb222221
@pb222221 3 жыл бұрын
Umm. a reflash costs $250 and is almost a requirement if you do a full exhaust (slip-ons aren't an option). The stock mappings are super lean and throwing an exhaust on it just makes it worse.
@MyWatchIsEnded
@MyWatchIsEnded 2 жыл бұрын
The part where he was driving on the bridge with the brown looking pillars is located in Austin, Texas specifically in the West Lake Hills area. I did some work for a millionaire there on his pool. 😁
@cyclonus01
@cyclonus01 Жыл бұрын
This dude has terrible takes.
@ami5975
@ami5975 Жыл бұрын
Damn. I sat on the MT-07 and the Z650 earlier today. I liked the Z650 more. Didn't ride it though. Now I have to go back and reconsider. Damn!
@lv2bplayn
@lv2bplayn 3 ай бұрын
I have a ‘14 Versys 650 and a ‘20 Z650. I ride the one that will suit the ride of the day. Highway, Versys. Back roads & twisties, I ride the Z. The only thing on the Z is the foot pegs are a little higher to the seat and my knees are a little more scrunched up. Not as comfortable as the Versys but still has its place. No complaints on either bike from me. Im a casual rider and could care less about this review or Snobby Noob’s opinion. Seems his opinion goes where the money goes. Flip flop much?
@critiqalerror
@critiqalerror 3 жыл бұрын
As long as its reliable and durable Im in.
@kevinfreitas3902
@kevinfreitas3902 2 жыл бұрын
Full respect and love Poppa ....700 miles and mostly smiles on my 21 z650. Gonna trade it on a z900 fo sho
@marcjuvinall9627
@marcjuvinall9627 3 жыл бұрын
@dnicholas8525
@dnicholas8525 3 жыл бұрын
The Yammie video for the 2020 Z650 a few months ago is almost a complete opposite of this 2021 one. Can a model year make that much difference? Two different Yammies doing the commentaries so maybe just a difference of opinion.
@xelnjare3945
@xelnjare3945 3 жыл бұрын
And he's not even riding a 2021. Early onset dementia or is he just low on content?
@L4ND.SH4RK
@L4ND.SH4RK 3 жыл бұрын
Not wrong... I was bored with mine after first riding season and had to put some super aggressive sprockets on it for more torque. Now is exciting.
@fxktone737
@fxktone737 2 жыл бұрын
Having the same issue had my 2022 for like 6 weeks 1600 miles and ready for more aggression, what sprocket set up you running?
@FERMBUDZZ
@FERMBUDZZ 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a 2022 and I like it for driving in my small town
@shah9394
@shah9394 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly....this is spot on..I got a 2019 for a great price after being away from riding for 5 years......and I use to have a pgz1100 and a few Honda vfrs back in the day....and well.....um....the 650 is well...its like you went to the club wearing crocks ....the engine is from a tuk tuk ? Suspension is a wooden pogo stick from the 90s? Throttle low end is from the 90s? Seat is ok? Lights are low end flash lights But? Tires are too skinny for riding on modern roads and better for India? But the full faring looks good.
@Soh90
@Soh90 3 жыл бұрын
The Z650 is all of $13 brand new. The smiles per dollar is at an all time high with that machine. Second only to the psychotic MT-07. You seem like you came from some proper machines and you sound like a very seasoned rider. If this is true then yes, the Z650 is NOT for you mate lol. Steer clear and pick up a Z900 or something. But for the rest of us noobs, it’s a solid bike. I’ve been riding for 6 years and I’ve had plenty of middle weight bikes including a MT-07, ZX6R, SV650, and even a bat shit crazy CB1000 (Honda steerings are freaking weird). But my favorite of them all was the MT-07 and Z650. Both bikes that people call “cheap” and poke fun at their suspensions. But like I said, the smiles per dollar is at an all time high with those two machines.
@shah9394
@shah9394 3 жыл бұрын
My issue is that it's a gorgeous bike with proper ST setup.....just wish it had a proper suspension and am engine with a soul to go with the nice looks!
@philippwalder4328
@philippwalder4328 3 жыл бұрын
Yammie: MT-07, SV 650, Trident 660, Z 650 Honda: Sad inline 4 noises
@joshuameeks9471
@joshuameeks9471 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Why didn’t the CB650 get any love here?
@terpdx
@terpdx 3 жыл бұрын
Honda is ~$1.5k USD more than the other 650's. It's not a direct competitor.
@nickm.270
@nickm.270 3 жыл бұрын
This is my first bike, and as a first bike... What he is saying is wrong, I’ve put 6,000 miles on my z650 and I loved every mile. I understand where he is coming from now for the lifelessness but u feel that later, so don’t worry about that if you want this as a first bike
@jaimeignaciogutierrezcorre706
@jaimeignaciogutierrezcorre706 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best in ur opinion 1 suzuki sv650x 2 yamaha mt 07 3 kawasaki z650 🎌🌎
@gatorguida4483
@gatorguida4483 3 жыл бұрын
Cmon Yam! Do a Z900RS Cafe. I bought one in November and love it! It’s a blast to ride. It also had a very twitchy throttle. I had a PC5 put on it and a suspension adjust and it’s a whole new beast. I thought about a ECU flash, and it will remap all kinds of stuff, but Kawasaki told me it would void my warranty. Anything other than the Kawasaki map voids it. But the PC will not. So please get your hands on on one and let us know what you think. Again great video and keep em coming.👍
@basuo8378
@basuo8378 3 жыл бұрын
most of the points are invalid if you live in the UK or Australia as the power is restricted to the exact same on all bikes. and the 2020 Z is by far the best looking 650 in my opinion. i have ridden my uncles MT07 and other then cruising on the highway i prefer my Z 650 every day of the week.
@filipematos1821
@filipematos1821 3 жыл бұрын
Why is the MT 07 better for cruising on the highway?
@basuo8378
@basuo8378 3 жыл бұрын
@@filipematos1821 bit more comfy and its a bit taller which is annoying at stop lights for me being a shorter rider but on the highway its nice
@DaveXL495
@DaveXL495 2 жыл бұрын
Reviving a necro post but the Kawi 650s are a lot less work to derestrict than the CP2.
@Dr_Snickerz
@Dr_Snickerz 3 жыл бұрын
Have a z650. Spot on about the throttle. My biggest issue with it isn’t that though, I had to get new handlebars and I’m looking into different rear sets because the bike is wayyy too upright at freeway speeds with no windscreen, lol.
@rosesmith5135
@rosesmith5135 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the 1 minute commercial Mr Sell Out
@wwfww
@wwfww Жыл бұрын
Well i tested this bike’s predecessor - er6n - and a modern bmw xr1000 and honestly found the engine on the er6n more fun and spicy, so i bought myself one and saved a loaaad of $$$
@ziptrigga4126
@ziptrigga4126 3 жыл бұрын
Not even kidding I got one of these (first bike) a day before you uploaded this
@clementbaron7323
@clementbaron7323 3 жыл бұрын
Same! Congrats on the bike man!
@ziptrigga4126
@ziptrigga4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@clementbaron7323 you too man, I’m loving mine
@terpdx
@terpdx 3 жыл бұрын
All that matters is whether you like it or not. If so, then who cares that Yammie flip-flopped his opinion on this bike from has past reviews? His tastes run towards bikes that are easier to pull dank wheelies and plow into the front of other people's cars at high rates of speed. That's not the riding style for the majority of people out there.
@ziptrigga4126
@ziptrigga4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@terpdx I’m loving the bike. Been an excellent first bike so far. Unfortunately I got a flat a few days ago and I’m waiting for the tire to come in☹️
@millennialmalaise9386
@millennialmalaise9386 3 жыл бұрын
The person who wins the Z650 after Papa Yams roasts it for 15min 😬
@watts300
@watts300 2 жыл бұрын
Why does Yammy call everything that's not a liter bike a beginner bike?
@Yorcen
@Yorcen 3 жыл бұрын
Downsides: Still conventional forks (not UD) Shity swing arm (plain rectangular metal crap) No traction control. Honda’s 650’s are four cylinder. Upsides: Looks cool Nice dashboard Assist and slipper clutch Recap: Way behind of the competitors.
@Sozin91
@Sozin91 3 жыл бұрын
What is with some of the still images being pixelated? It looks like whoever was editing the video typed in bikes into google images and copy pasted the image that popped up in search results instead of opening up the full image in the link and copying that.
@alexanderi7332
@alexanderi7332 3 жыл бұрын
That’s his style ))
@aritradas7154
@aritradas7154 Жыл бұрын
it's the only one that's sensibly designed...narrow seat and reasonable seat height...it really has no competition
@wanashrafwanmat5005
@wanashrafwanmat5005 3 жыл бұрын
I have z650 and z900 and love them both equally... both are great in their own ways... sometimes love z650 more, the other times z900... can't say which one I would prefer more 😂
@farmoboy83
@farmoboy83 3 жыл бұрын
If you know how to ride you love almost all motorbikes. Some are better than others on different environments. A z650 is probably better around town and daily use and a z900 is better on highway and longer trips. Also, a 60hp sub 200kg motorbike is far from being boring or slow...
@wanashrafwanmat5005
@wanashrafwanmat5005 3 жыл бұрын
@@farmoboy83 well said brother... can fully enjoy z650 power on normal road, not bad too in highway... can use 90% of its capability on every ride, that somehow make me feel complete... z900 on the other hand, hmmm cant really squeeze that throttle on a normal road, so it feels underutilised... but in high speed road, you own it... plus that satisfaction when the 4inline sound can turns every head to you 😂
@lukeofearth1036
@lukeofearth1036 3 жыл бұрын
If you are actually breaking this bike in correctly, how the hell would you know about the bikes riding characteristics. Under 400 miles stay under 4000 rpms 400 to 600 go up to 6000 rpms. The bike redlines at 10 grand and loves to be there. So get back to me when you put in the miles or give away a poorly broken in bike.
@Fearless154
@Fearless154 3 жыл бұрын
There is no "correct" way to break-in the bike some experts will argue you should do a hard break-in going to the redline each gear and some will argue you should do genital break-in. It's a kinda controversial topic. Also, who said it's a brand new bike with 0 miles? It's clearly an older model the 2020+ z650 comes with the TFT dash so it's a 2019 or lesser model so it's a clearly used bike that was already broken in.
@lukeofearth1036
@lukeofearth1036 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fearless154 you're right I don't know that the bike is new. But I do know exactly what the owners manual says.
@Fearless154
@Fearless154 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukeofearth1036 What did you expect the owner's manual to tell people to redline the bike on the street? Surely there are no legality issues with that.
@lukeofearth1036
@lukeofearth1036 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fearless154 Cams have to be broke in. Its about when.
@sonkaldo
@sonkaldo 3 жыл бұрын
Yammie Dweeb. It's not fast, powerful, hi tech or cool. But it is Japanese and will do everything you kneed it to do. Nothing wrong with it.
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