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[@seeker6514]

"We don't think it's worth owning, but for a beginner or most people, it's worth it" this right here folks - if someone says your bike isn't worth it because something is better, just ask yourself "am I enjoying it/does it make me happy" if you can say yes, then hello, my two wheeled friend, ride on and ride safe!

[@ericrolland9092]

I smile every time I ride my 300🤷‍♂️

[@revmatchproductions]

Amen dude, love my 390 Duke to death! I laugh when i see people riding liter bikes to Walmart

[@josephlilley9249]

​@@ericrolland9092right, people act like a 300cc or 400cc bike isn't fast but in all reality, they are actually pretty damn fast wether people want to admit it or not

[@friktionrc]

The same applies to cars. A lot of my circle of family/friends know I’m into cars and bikes and know how much I hate SUVs and most modern cars which focus too much in iPad style entertainment and not enough on driver input like cars from ‘yester-year’. Thing is they always seem to seek my approval when looking to get a new car to which point I always say…listen just because I don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t meet what you want/need/like. I happily advise on features to look out for and what the acronyms mean etc..but then remind them it’s their cash, they’re the ones buying it and will be using it on a daily basis…so my opinion counts for sh*t …..you should see their faces 😂…but it’s true. Why copy /live someone else’s dream 🤷‍♂️

[@karlreinke]

Adding a couple things for Spite's bulletpoints: An ADV bike is better for urban commuting for 2 additional reasons: 1. Suspension travel. With our "crumbling infrastructure" the size of potholes, construction zones, speed bumps, and sunken manholes make potential bent rims a possibility and that long suspension travel more of a need-to-have rather than nice-to-have. 2. Visibility. That taller bike gives you a warhorse-like view of the battlefield which is more beneficial than you realize in heavy traffic. On cruisers and most nekkid bikes you pretty much just see the car in front of you. But on ADVs sitting tall and proud you can see over several cars. The flip side is also true. Being able to pull up along side Kyle or Chad and look them in the eye in their clapped out rolling-coal Dodge Cummins cranking 5FDP means they're more likely to see YOU as well. Basically, urban landscapes ARE the very definition of ADV riding these days.

[@joshmanwaring3848]

Roads fall into disrepair, every soccer mom out there needs an SUV or pickup truck, motorcyclists must adapt

[@evanwilcox82]

Solid arguments there.

[@SkylerB17]

as someone who has been thinking about moving up from my beginner bike to either a naked or an ADV bike, i can say that this video did not help me decide between the two. i guess ill just have to get both.

[@bassistoftheyear]

I feel like this is the inevitable conclusion for anyone who actually likes bikes and riding

[@MrJxKnight]

I'm between a naked that love the look or a versys 650 that I really like too and are very practical. I also love the XR650l but that's a lot modding and I don't have time to do all of it right now.

[@TeamGeezer]

I watched the video and Yammie's arguments were weak sauce. Wheelies? Track days? 99.9% of people riding will never or rarely do either. I switched from Sport/Naked bikes to Adv bikes years ago. When you get a little older and knees/ backs and other injuries start rearing their ugly head, Adv start making a ton of sense if you don't want to go the land yacht route on a GoldWing. I still have a naked bike in the garage but, it rarely gets ridden. I've been riding over 50 years and the ADV bikes beats the other bikes hands down. KTM is releasing a 490 ADV at some point in the future, Covid slowed that down but, it'll be a game changer.

[@bassistoftheyear]

@@MrJxKnight if you decide to try ADVs do yourself a favor and ride a Vstrom. It's the versys competition and imo more comfortable. They are pretty comparable in most aspects.

[@giga0524]

right here with ya bud im thinking cfmoto adventura (please do a video on this bike) and an 890 duke

[@joseph9556]

More than likely, most people who are deciding between a naked vs adv are probably not too concerned if it can wheelie or can hit 180mph

[@mrhands2757]

I'm with Spite on this one, I'm proof, just have a bike, no car!! CB500X!! 😃💪❤

[@Prince-yw4lk]

Do u still have the cbx how did u find it ?

[@DadsDomain]

My 450l is my "toy", my vstrom 650 is my two wheeled car and I love it and don't care what people think. Best memory was throwing the luggage on to run errands and I see a yard sale at a farm. Walked away with a $25 framing nailer, three boxes of nails and it was enough to frame my entire basement for $25. Yay for nerdy ADV luggage capacity!

[@sethlozeau2962]

This series literally proves the idea of “different strokes for different folks.” I like the way it turned out with nobody ever being completely correct. Ha! This proves a point for us Vulcan S riders too. Got ‘em!!!

[@christopherandersch1299]

People come in different sizes, and flavors, so why not bikes?

[@Kelly-rq4po]

Love my Vulcan S. Especially as I mod bits and pieces here and there. But at 6'3 and 230# it does feel small under me. But to that end it's still very peppy and can haul me around at 85 on the highway no issues. It is my commuter. My commute being 35 miles of 2 lane state highway @55mph or interstate @75mph one way.

[@CGR89]

I think it’s important to be honest with yourself. I got an Africa Twin in 2017 with all sorts of plans of taking it off road and really adventure riding with it. 5 years of owning it and it never saw dirt. Ended up trading it in for a cruiser, still wanted a comfy bike but I was much more honest with where I was actually riding it.

[@pezpengy9308]

i got a tw200 because if the roads are stopped i can just pop off into the pineapple fields and happily pass all the traffic. which ive done, on occasion. its also my daily errand bike because its easy and uses less fuel than my farm truck.

[@danielrobey1759]

I don't own one but tw's are awesome!!

[@MusicmanStephan]

Yam, have your production crew turn on a high pass filter (low cut) on your mics of around 80-100hz and that will control the breath plosives that windscreen isn’t quite getting.

[@earthlyng_official4599]

accurate

[@CaptainFeathersword]

To each their own, however 1 point I will make is that right now ADV bikes are all the rage and as such are disproportionately overpriced relative to nakeds.

[@manuelestacio1836]

Adventure bikes are also less of a heat score from police. Slap on panniers and a top rack and you become invisible lol. Naked bikes have a 'hooligan' look that attracts cops.

[@AOTEAROAsam]

I can't believe Spite didn't also say that it's ADV is far less restrictive in terms of the the surfaces you can ride on - even in the city there can be all sorts of odd terrain. Plus you can take way better sneaky shortcuts. That's the whole reason I got a light ADV.

[@GerhardCombrink]

If you’re older and taller, there are VERY few naked options you’d want to ride across the state, unfortunately and yes, that pisses me off.

[@jeremyclutterbuck4665]

I ride a KTM 1190 adventure. Some days I have just my locking tail trunk, some days locking hard side bags, some days a small soft tail bag, some days even a bike rack for hauling my mountain bike. It has tons of performance and piles of practical options. It is the ultimate motorcycle.

[@vaportrail226]

You have a bike rack to put a bike on your bike? Man, you really love being on two's

[@glimpseofcambodia]

It’s a loss for ADV. Street bike (naked bike 🏍), is meant for daily rides for work, for school… But between ADV and Naked, it’s down to riders favorites and usage purposes

[@222wheelsdown]

wow this video was made for me 😂 my very first bike was the ktm 390 adv and I loved it. perfect bike to learn how to ride on and plenty capable. it did on road and off road good but not great. I traded it in for my current bike a brand new mt 07 and love it! significant increase in HP and street performance. I want to now save up and get a cheap used dirt bike or dual sport. IMO having a dedicated on road bike and dedicated off road bike or atv makes more sense than getting into the ADV game. Just my 2c! obviously depends a lot too on where you live, riding style, etc.

[@andrewpiercy8418]

Yam, I needed this 2 weeks ago lol. Had my heart set on a multistrada. looked at a few of them and they all seemed to have some problem or another so I ended up with a cb1000r. Extremely happy with my decision coming from a super sport. Will probably be adding a adv to the stable next!

[@juanpablogonzalezs.v.8319]

That was Halerious!! Thank u for cutting up the pod cast! It also kinda makes the pod cast a bit more tempting to watch (I don't usually like podcasts)

[@vader5454]

Man, I could listen to you guys talk motorcycles forever 🤙 I have a 2014 Street Triple. I’m 5’8, 160 lbs (small bro), so this bike is perfect for me. ADVs are awesome, but too big for me IMO. Keep up the great work guys!

[@matthatter93]

Spite! You forgot wind protection! Not gonna lie after three long trips on my naked and early morning chilly commutes led me to owning my Adv bike

[@JCrozier1]

Fantastic conversation. Tons of good thoughts on both sides. I very much appreciate that the V-Strom was mentioned. People forget that it's the best bike ever created. 😁🤓🤟

[@ether7118]

F**k yea!!!

[@softgunruler]

Great series idea, can't wait for the next one!

[@matthewgarland8516]

I own a adventure bike have had it since new I bought it in 2019 the Suzuki 650 vstrom I have done over 35000ks so far and absolutely love it I do a fifo job and have to ride 460ks to get to work it’s really comfortable for long distance and I can put all my clothes and luggage I need for work for 2 weeks the v twin motor has enough power to still have fun on and handles really well in the twisties and I do a fair bit of off-road to with obviously not as capable as a full on dirt bike but the vstrom is definitely good enough for what I want to do and just explore some different tracks i feel it’s a jack of all trades kind of bike

[@matthewdemello]

I travel 70 miles to work each way in new England.. I'm not using no naked bike on the highway at 75 mph threw rain and cold.. hell no.

[@davidsondan7471]

THANK YOU! I have been trying to decide between the Aprilia Tuono and the Triumph Tiger. This has helped me.

[@bassistoftheyear]

this truly is a why not both situation imo. I've had my Vstrom 650 for a couple years now and I love it. Panniers, heated grips, Corbin heated seat, etc make it the perfect commuter capable of going long distance. It's not fast though and since I'm not getting younger instead of a new zx6r I picked up a z900. I'd say though even after more than doubling the cost of the vstrom with accessories it's still cheaper than the z900 but not by much. After exhaust and sliders and such for the z900 it's probably 1-2k more. If I could only have one though ADV is the best all rounder.

[@cruze86]

This is exactly what i needed. I was so much confused between these two. Couldn’t decide a bit until this.

[@maverick-carsbikesracingma8686]

Same here

[@joeljeffcoat6241]

My starter bike was a nicely modded ‘86 450 Nighthawk. It was perfect to learn on, being smooth at low rpms, and manageable. However, it was miserable on the gnarly logging roads in my area and ran out of breath above 60 mph. My second bike is an NX650. The 21” front wheel made it tricky on low speed maneuvers at first, and being a single means it requires better clutch management from a standstill, but the clearance and softer suspension eats up the logging roads and it’ll cruise at 70 all day long. It’s more comfortable on pavement, too. For me, it’s a better choice for a daily rider.

[@lostwithasmile485]

I am so happy to have both a Tuono 660 and an Africa Twin in my garage! Perfect combo!

[@lordflash7160]

Made the switch to an ADV because where Im at the roads are absolutely terrible

[@AKlover]

Naked, for me. ADVs are A compromise and I have little desire to "Off-Road" nor do I wish to have to keep and change A set of tires for better performance every time I do go from street to dirt.

[@codygoetsch]

Great points on both sides! I just swapped my Hypermotard for a Multistrada enduro because it’s a better fit for the riding I do on the straight, flat (read: boring) roads we have in south Mississippi. I do miss the hyper, but I’m loving the comfort of the multi-and I still have to check my pants every time I open up the throttle getting on the highway because this baby is FAST

[@love4boost]

In one week I had people that don’t know about bikes think my bike was a BMW, and another thought it was a Ducati. I have a 2021 MT-09 so yeah it depends on the person. I find it great looking. I actually liked it at launch and now that it has a Puig screen on it I think it really stepped up the looks.

[@HyperViper94]

Gotta say i mostly agree with Spite, I've come from a Fireblade to a Africa Twin 1100 but also have a VFR800F .... still agree with Spite and yes i've owned naked's and will continue to own them... currently looking at a previous gen MT09 SP

[@Murad.bn2]

I plan to move to road-adventure bike from naked, for 3 reasons: 1) Suspension better suits our roads 2) Wind protection (we often have strong wind, very uncomfortable on naked even 40+ mph) 3) More relaxed riding positon, better seat, better road view.

[@dyryb]

Jammyboob I got a desert sled because of u. It’s sick. A total Frankenstein of a bike. I ducking love it

[@TheTriSec]

I just upgraded this winter - went with naked. Already a strike on me though, since Yammie doesn't like BMWs...but I bounced back and forth between an F900R and the F750GS. Wound up on the 900, primarily because I got super-lucky at the dealer and they had the exact bike I wanted to order in stock!

[@robertbecksey776]

I'm in the UK iv only ever owned naked bikes 125cc for a new rider I'm now getting the kawasaki er5 and absolutely love riding naked bikes when the wind hits you they feel so much faster 😀 it's so fun

[@PepsiDotMacOnInsta]

Luuurvin' the light hearted view on life......I grew up on an LC350 and had two Tuonos in the end...but...now 'live' on my 660 Tenere.........We all get fat 'n old in the end !

[@Paspa1801]

For me, as a 5'6 woman, most adv bikes I've sat on were not comfortable for me and I didn't feel confident. I can get shorter naked bikes more easily. I do like the looks and function of adv bikes but the height is an issue

[@tigre7951]

For more leg reach you can buy Daytona m star gtx which gives you 2-2.5 inches in height. Hope that will help you.

[@Supadupa335]

My f650cs is super low. Idk what type of bike it is. It's base off the f650gs which is a smaller adv bike

[@Stewyzf750]

I love how you guys can simply “agree to disagree”, exactly how good mates should be - give each other a bit of stick, but respect each other’s opinion either way. I’m with Yammie though - naked bikes rule! Keep it up guys, I’m enjoying the channel. 👍

[@taliesinangling3564]

Or try to convince them otherwise, if both of them value truth they’ll discover it together.

[@andrewinvests839]

the answer is get both. I love my V-Strom but it just doesn't quite scratch the sport bike itch. I'm looking for a GSX-S now to add! lol

[@markchalloner5883]

T-7 and an FTR...and soon a Tracer 9 GT!!! Also, did 785 miles in two days on the FTR just this week. It can be done.

[@michaelmarkofski4073]

I went for a year with my Aprilia Shiver 750 as my sole transportation and a large tail bag. Only time of the year was tough was thanksgiving and a 22 lb turkey

[@Connor_Streetmann]

Finally ive been waiting all week

[@joeplem5329]

Being on the shorter side I'll never feel confident on an ADV bike hence why I ride a 2020 z900. Fits me perfectly (I'm 5'6) looks amazing imo and more than capable of scaring the crap out of you!!!

[@rozzbourn3653]

for me it really comes down to what you will be driving on. if you are going to be on the street only, the naked bike is better suited for that. if you will have to go down a non-paved road, then an adventure bike can handle that better.

[@bajacore]

I’m the naked bike guy converted to ADV nerd. They both make excellent points about the both styles of bike and why I like both. Honestly, it’s where the N+1 formula comes in handy. Naked bike for those in-town trips and an ADV for touring/off-road.

[@danielrobey1759]

In all honesty it is really hard for one motorcycle to do it all... I have an '11 klr, 02 955i tiger and a '98 Honda valkyrie and they all compliment each other very well...

[@bajacore]

@@danielrobey1759 I’d love to be in a position to own two motorcycles for the reason you mentioned. If nothing else, it would keep things from getting stagnant with only having one bike.

[@dashuntas.m4045]

My problem is that ADVs can cover both in-town trips and touring/off-road but the nakeds are also so much fun

[@MrBrown-br7sh]

I call shenanigans on Spite's naked bike luggage claims. I have luggage for my sport bike that's compatible with its naked sibling. I've got two 16-liter saddle bags that install in about 2 to 5 seconds each. I have a sport rack that pops in place of my rear seat allowing me to also mount my 37 liter top case. Even when taking my time, swapping out the rear seat and installing it takes less than 30 seconds. That's a total of 69 liters (nice) or about 18 gallons/2.4 cubic feet.

[@kkiwi54]

You forgot the weather protection that most adv bikes have - always an advantage compared to a naked

[@AntonioCarvalho-mx7sm]

"Get a little big bike" That's what I did: I bought a little mini big bike (sym nh-t 125cc eu spec) for my 1st bike. Cheaper than any mt125 or z125 (actually the cheaper of that niche segment too). 1 yr later I got my license and an NC750X

[@Mystic-Herbalist420]

Get both. My first two bikes are my 2020 tuono factory and my 2013 Honda xr650l. Got the tuono first and wanted to get off the road so got the xr like 8 months later. Both are amazing in their respected element. Plus when you ride one for a while then get back on the other you appreciate what it is more and their differences. Just my two cents but my answer is get the tuono factory. A fully built xr650, put an exhaust on it, rejet it, fix the carb, put a better intake on it and you can go over just about anything. its way faster then the klr or other similar sized Enduros. And the tuono speaks for it's self, if you know you know lol it will be right beside a s1000rr all the way to 170 mph which is all I really need but I'm comfortable with the handle bars. there's nothing I would change except it needs an exhaust and reflashed for the race ecu. Get those two bikes and never look back lol

[@WAZZUjohn03]

We need to get Yammie on a Triumph Tiger in rally trim and see if that will influence a change of position. The triple engine note we know he loves, ample power to get you to felony speeds, and serious off road capability if you are not too afraid to put a few scratches on it.

[@elingauer]

This is my daily monolog in my head for my next bike 🤣 1 bike garage; if you wanna go off road it's going to have to be an adv bike

[@izzy031096]

Or dual sport if you won’t be doing much highway riding and want more off-road capabilities

[@elingauer]

@@izzy031096 definitely a good choice too! I test rode a husky 701 enduro yesterday and i think I'm in love lol. Especially being up at such high altitude

[@BearikadeGames]

Speaking as a newly minted rider who just bought a MT-03 to learn on, I'm feeling very attacked early on in this video :P I will say that I'm kind of stuck between a mid-range naked or mid-range ADV as my next step up though so this video has been fantastic.

[@damonweaver3386]

I've gotten older and I'm torn between the lush comfort of an adv and my desire to still occasionally do stupid shit on a naked.

[@sosmotorcycles]

bought an mt10 and it was a game changer. im straight hooked. how dare you say the MT is ugly. its just unique which makes it polarizing.

[@SlabCityNews]

Both. I have a gen 1 KLR 650 a 2021 KTM Duke 390 also heresy I have a Honda Shadow 1100

[@mortenfransrud7676]

I rode a naked bike when i was learning to drive. It was good, fun, and lightweight. The thing is that adv bikes are so much more agile. For the size of these bikes, they're very responsive. I feel much more comfortable doing slow speeds, slipping through traffic and slaloming through the traffic jams. Turn radius is insanely good, and while many naked sportbikes can do the same, it does not "feel" right. You can feel it was not purposely built for these thight maneuvers. The adv bike, however, gives you this good feeling of "i can do this" mindset.. sometimes for good or worse. AND adv bikes are comfy for the long trips as well, and the price can be half of what those touring bikes go for. Well, if you dont buy BMW 1250gs or ducati multistrada v4, then.

[@Gmunder83]

In Greece and I believe most Mediterranean countries the most stolen bikes are SportTouring/ADV bikes by FAR.

[@monkmoto1887]

I love my z1000 and I can do big distances on it but man it took some building up to do it. I grew up a woods trail rider so wind was never a thing and it beat me up a bit until I got used to it

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

I started commuting on a CB500X (430lbs) and moved to an Africa Twin (498lbs) which goes over 130mph. I could go for commuting on a naked bike (MT-09 or CB1000). I actually prefer the tall seat when commuting in the city and i filter with no problem. All ADV are not the size of the BMW GS.

[@Aemalloy]

Both sides have great points for two very different commutes. If I had a city commute to an office job where I could show up with nothing but a coffee in hand, a naked bike would be ideal. Defining the commuter here is critical. I do archaeology fieldwork and my commute often turns into a dirt road down a poorly maintained powerline corridor, with overgrown sections and occasional sketchy water crossings. (My car looks like heck. ) I'm less concerned with fast corners and wheelies, and more concerned with how many snacks I can fit after I pack all my excavation gear. "How much sh*t do you need..?" A LOT. :( Great points on both sides; for now I need a robust and comfortable pack mule that doesn't mind getting a little banged around but can also hang tough on the highway, but once I'm back in an office all day I will definitely have a much nimbler racehorse of a bike to let out some energy on the way home.

[@iallso1]

I traded up from my Suzuki Inazuma 250 naked bike to a Vstrom 650 for my daily commute. The Vstrom is more than comfortable to hold its own on the motorway and has the ease of handling to filter between traffic on city streets, but it is more comfortable and provides better weather protection which is great for year round use. If I was to get the Suzuki SV650 it would only be 30lbs lighter without any other significant gains.

[@andrewdreyer7765]

This competitiveness was hilarious. Good chemistry

[@Majorbanjo]

I do all my grocery shopping on my ADV bike with hard bags couldn't accomplish this on the naked bike bags you described...without multiple trips...

[@richykong2930]

I love, adventure, bikes, however, also I love the naked bikes, but for the naked bikes for me, the look with the crash guards for the frame, the engine, and the one in the back that you could use to hook up bags easier to it gives the bike an adventure like look, however it will be nice if it could do a little bit of a adventure style riding

[@mikes.8305]

I have a Ducati Multistrada 950s and a KTM Duke 890R and if I have to run a short errand the naked bike is so much easier to ride around town and park. If I’m doing hour long rides the KTM is also my go to bike. If I’m doing long freeway stints or all day mountain rides I take the Multi. For me at 6’ 180lbs and handsome, naked bikes rule unless you do a bunch of freeway.

[@Mrbigmike311]

The reason why there is so many bike type is because there is so many type of riders! I owned three types, a sport touring, a cruiser and now an adventure bike, the adventure has been so far the best experience and the one I’ve been most comfortable with riding and testing my limitations. It’s heavier and taller, but I get to go anywhere I desire, and for me that is the purpose of a motorcycle, to be able to go places where you normally can’t with a regular car. If you are a beginner, I alway suggest going for a naked or a sport touring as these are great bike to learn from and to commute, get some experience on first, after the first season then you can think of something else.

[@mjordan812]

Riding since 1961. Reserved a BMW 650 single for a ride in Europe in 2002. The previous renter overestimated his ability and the rental agency gave me a free upgrade to a R1150GS. Wow! Bought a DL1000 VStrom in 2003, a Tiger Explorer in 2013, a BMW G310GS in 2018 and a Guzzi V85TT Adv in 2020. You may see a pattern. And I've got a 28" inseam (on a good day). Go figure. And a lot of my rides are multi-week - so luggage space that I can lock is critical. All that being said, I just bought a Triumph Speed 400. 😁

[@MKultra731]

I sold a mt10 sp and before that I had an R1 crossplane for a tenere 700 and I have a lot more fun with it for much less, the power is obviously not the same as on 190hp motorcycles but anyway on the road it is not usable. I love the relaxed riding position the wind protection and the effect of having a big WRF, I do a bit of off-roading especially for walking around and on paths that are not too complicated I feel more free than with fat roadster. I can go for a ride and drive at legal speeds without necessarily getting bored and at the same time driving fast on trails where I'm sure my license won't be taken away.

[@bamills6771]

Got rid of all my sport naked bikes in the last 5 years. All adventure bikes now. 700 Tenere- BMW R100 Paris Dakar. 1150GS - 1200GSA . My 1150 has over 235k miles on it. Adventure bikes have lockable bags. Way more legroom

[@LeadTemple]

Have nerve damage cant ride ADV bikes my foot is in a brace but thanks to this channel I did just pick up a naked bike and I can flat foot it sorry yam it's a brand new z650 and i love it to death it takes care of me. I was riding cruiser because of seat height but thanks to this channel I found the z most bikes are too high for me I hate being 5 5"

[@woodywoods3343]

Adventure bikes are taking over here in l.a .... great in traffic... city streets are the new adventure...wheels up🌞⛽

[@rileyallcorn9782]

I was having this same conversation trying to decide on my next bike literally 2 hours ago. Papa Yam knows his squidlets

[@Pococnosurvival]

I have to go adventure bike.....much more utilitarian for everyday riding, not to mention taking the roads less traveled

[@BlakesPipes]

RE Himalayan. Don't even own one, but plan too. Own my concours and a W800. Got cool, got long distance, need purpose with Himalayan

[@roblewis7186]

My wife rides a 2020 Yamaha MT-03 and she absolutely loves it. She's only 5'1 and it fits her really well. She can't even begin to touch the ground on my old adv bike. I bought a KTM Duke 890R and got rid of my ADV because I fell in love with the naked bikes and will never go back to ADV. Just my two cents.

[@seanfletter9098]

another great video!

[@seanknox3363]

I have a z900 and a Pan Am. The truth is you CAN do several hundred miles per day for 5 days on a naked, but you'll be so beat up you won't be able to enjoy most of it. Trust me, I've done it. ADVs just make more sense when you have to cover a lot of ground on the interstate to get somewhere, but can also be plenty fun when you get to the twisties.

[@noelnz81]

I love the look of my 2018 MT10 mate. The new one not so much though.

[@alfrednegron3802]

I was once a “ZX-6R every day” guy. Now it’s Scrambler FTW, baby!

[@andrewschultz2504]

One point I have to mention is that a adv bike like the ktm 890 is quick nimble and you can go down a gravel road without the pucker factor. You really need to ride one

[@jasontd1984]

Adv is better on all fronts except it feels a bit top heavy until you get used to it. The parking lot example is nonsense though I have no issue making sharp turns at low speed.

[@ion123456]

you can get brand new 250-650cc adv bikes for 4-8k with more usability and features for any comparable cc naked bike..even a brand new rx3 for 4.1k has everything a max spec klr650 does for almost half (ofc it's a 250, but also accessible to shorter people). new price, adv bikes give way more for less with what's available in the USA (not talking amazon/powersport dealer bikes).

[@janrico904]

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[@JA-zh5xi]

I’m not a huge fan of the looks of either type of bike, but could totally do a Harley Pan American.

[@johnmetcalfe2866]

Usable torque -> ANY of the CP2 bikes can match a lot of ADV bikes too. XSR, MT, Tracer (and yeah, the Tenere).

[@fadecomic]

… I like the way the MT line looks.

[@jasdkfjhaskjh69432]

Having had a S1000R and an R1250 GSA, my GSA was far smoother in parking lots as far as balance went.

[@williammead7963]

Great debate! so I have KLR and XSR900. Argument settled!

[@tammyforbes2101]

My last bike was a R6 that got took out by a pack of deer, but I knew what I wanted after that! Liter bike! And a 300 to actually ride to town and back on the slower roads. I have a 2016 GSX-S1000, and CBR300R! There both a lot of laughs. My kid rides them both to but mostly he sticks to the 300 behind me as he is a new rider. He has only messed up like twice the whole time he has been riding, and it was nothing he slid to a stop at a red light over shot a little and on a really tight 10mph elbo curve he couldn’t lean it down enough and shot off straight and stopped on a access road. Perfect curve to learn on cause if you don’t make it you have a out! 😂

[@markholmes5695]

Ducati Diavel v4 enters the conversation. A comfortable, tourable, naked powerhouse

[@kendavis1593]

“FEATURES”!!! Yeah, a Tenere is packed with features 😅

[@032254855]

take the fairings off the turbo hayabusa and you got the perfect naked comfy a stupid fast

[@lfpmendes1]

I don't even think that it is a debate... ADV have a bit of everything you need. They are the "safest" option to choose between motorcycles. They might not be for everyone, but they fit for the majority of people. They are practical. (I own a CBR600F4i btw) Nakeds are good if you want a bike to just commute or have fun doing silly things (except maybe off road lol) and have a car.

[@razu1976]

ADV bikes are tall, but you only ever need to put one foot down. Tripod! Much more stable than two feet down and a wobbly bike!! Of course the correct approach is to buy both ADV and Naked. Comfort mode and hooligan mode.

[@jeffjohansen6528]

Versus 1000 has a i4. Prob not off-road capable but gravel roads are doable so I would say it can be a adv bike

[@jeffjohansen6528]

Versys**

[@serny14]

I was thinking of the S1000XR.. but the Versys works too 😄

[@YooperDanKulka]

It's all about the tires?!!! I'm 68 yrs old yooper. My new bike Kawasaki z 400. Good for trail & city.