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How to Break in a New Motorcycle

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@jonathonlong6504
@jonathonlong6504 Жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this. The motorcycle break in period is such a controversial topic, yet in the the end it’s simple, just don’t be stupid and ride your bike like you usually would. Like you said engineering has come so far in the past decade. If you’re buying a Japanese bike you truly shouldn’t worry.
@seekter-kafa
@seekter-kafa Жыл бұрын
now you said it -it really depends on the bike, some bikes are manufactured old school, while some are so precise it doesnt matter
@SquireSCA
@SquireSCA Жыл бұрын
It's largely the boomers regurgitating what they learned in the 70's. That was HALF A CENTURY ago, and things have changed, but they haven't bothered to update "what they know"...
@ryanslaven3482
@ryanslaven3482 11 ай бұрын
My new yamahas engine broke at 109 miles
@designertech192
@designertech192 11 ай бұрын
@@ryanslaven3482same even i did baby brekin still it got crank shaft problem
@Highway9mm
@Highway9mm 11 ай бұрын
@@designertech192errr which Yamaha?
@footyjr52
@footyjr52 3 ай бұрын
As a new rider on a new bike, This video was the reassurance I needed that my motor isn't dying from the 3 times I accidently revved to 6-7k my first time in traffic.
@SquireSCA
@SquireSCA Жыл бұрын
Cycle World or MotorCyclist did a video on this a couple years ago... They took two identical bikes, broke one in by the manual, and the other by wringing its neck near redline much of the time. When done, they ran them on the dyno, did oil analysis in a lab, compression and leak down tests and took the motors apart and took exact measurements... No appreciable difference between the two break in methods... I was recently asked to help break in a bunch of new Triumphs for this year's demo and promotional fleet... The tech in charge told us not to abuse them, but he preferred if we broke them in harder and put them through their paces...
@dustinlerch9272
@dustinlerch9272 Жыл бұрын
Excellent insight. Thank you.
@thainaaier
@thainaaier Жыл бұрын
Also note the bike was a very understressed CB300R... so no stress even on full throttle. I would not do a hard break-in on a superbike with 200 bhp per liter and a 14,000 to 16,000 r/min red line.
@dustinlerch9272
@dustinlerch9272 Жыл бұрын
@@thainaaier No one would expect that. When I say “car” I don’t mean a Ferrari Enzo. When they say motorcycle, they don’t mean a track ready liter bike.
@SquireSCA
@SquireSCA Жыл бұрын
@@thainaaier I wouldn't;t do it entirely at redline either, but the point was, they did the exact opposite of the manual instructions and it was absolutely fine. I split the difference between the two. I break it in fairly hard, and have even broken a bike in at a track day...
@angelsmalls7044
@angelsmalls7044 Жыл бұрын
And after 30.000 miles?
@dextzapf
@dextzapf Жыл бұрын
For me, aside from Yam's mentioned things about breaking in a motorcycle.. it also includes you and your new bike's 1st phase of relationship (like getting to know each other period). By the time that you are already familiar with how the bike behaves, handles, controls, etc. basically you're done breaking it in.
@bruddamanlo9036
@bruddamanlo9036 Жыл бұрын
THIS COMMENT MADE IT SO EASIER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THANK YOU, its just put in easier words hahah but yuppp i would assume to!!
@ghaithk7167
@ghaithk7167 10 ай бұрын
Agree! I took it easy getting used to the bike the first 200-300 miles then just rode it the way I like to ride
@st3v3n_j12
@st3v3n_j12 10 ай бұрын
​@@ghaithk7167wat about old change do u recommend after those 200 to 300 miles to change oil ?
@SynicalBeats
@SynicalBeats Жыл бұрын
As a master tech, and someone who has built many engines.. I completely agree with break it in exactly how you drive it.
@warrennorton6519
@warrennorton6519 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@truthhouseproductions4968
@truthhouseproductions4968 Жыл бұрын
I bought a KLR650 off the showroom floor with 0 miles. Babied it for the first 100 miles, mostly city riding- stop and go then rode it normal. It did fine and still runs like a champ
@52chevy3100
@52chevy3100 Жыл бұрын
I follow what a good portion of engine builders, racers, and dyno operators follow. Regardless of the internal combustion engine once the oil is up to maximum temperature then all dissimilar metals are fully expanded to their operating tolerances, and it's good to run it how it's gonna be used.
@jasoncarbajal6964
@jasoncarbajal6964 Жыл бұрын
Engine development engineer and I love hard break in. Compression and pressure
@krispysweekendgarage6892
@krispysweekendgarage6892 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Just got a bike with 2 miles, sv650. And I did follow the manufacturer recommendations for the first 250 miles. I took it up to 7k revs briefly a few times. Runs fine no issues. Getting ready for the first break in service. This video brought piece of mind and it is quite true what is stated. Thanks again!
@billbonu1639
@billbonu1639 9 ай бұрын
PEACE of mind, not a PIECE of your mind.
@SludgedB
@SludgedB 21 күн бұрын
What did you think was gonna happen? It grenades at 1rpm over?
@Jenuin
@Jenuin Жыл бұрын
I have actually broken in a motorcycle and dirt bike both soft and hard and never had an issue. I always warm them up then go. Proper oil changes etc are why I think is the most important other than having fun. 😂❤
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you don't keep your bikes that long. The issue with not breaking in a gearbox, don't show the first 2000 miles. And it starts with small problems like it is hard to get into neutral. Ever heard about that before? Or the bike pops out of gear, when you open the throttle a bit hard. That can be bad break in. You never know. Maybe it is not even possible to check it. Other then doing a experiment. But that is going to take years, lot of work. Cost a lot of money. Know one has time for that. or care if their toys break.
@Jenuin
@Jenuin Жыл бұрын
@@Gismo3333 just saw your reply. My oldest bike is a 1973 and my newest is a 2022. I have had 2 stroke and 4 stroke motorcycles. I have completely rebuilt bikes of various sizes. I am a firm believer in fresh fluids and warm ups. If the motorcycle was built right. If everything has been seated correctly from main bearings, to piston rings all properly gapped & cleaned you shouldn’t have any issues. That being said it also depends on the type of motor. If you have a high strong racing motor that’s close to the edge you have to follow the rules of engagement. On the other side of you have an everyday reliable commuting motorcycle for the average rider… they are built to last even with the worst owner. It’s all up to how they are handled and if you know your machine and it’s characteristics.
@adam-mz5sn
@adam-mz5sn Жыл бұрын
I chose to do the gentle break in. Was just following the manufacturer recommendations. This is my first bike and should hit the 600 miles on my way home today. Got the oil change kit and what I need to clean and lube the chain ready to go. Also decided to get out the torque wrenches and go over the bike just to be sure things are right.
@SongJLikes
@SongJLikes Жыл бұрын
Well-played… especially making sure bolts are tightened. My bolts on my left foot peg mount got loose and I didn’t realize until one bolt had completely fallen out, and the one remaining bolt was hanging by a thread… luckily I was able to secure it , but if my left foot peg came off mid ride, that would have SUCKED.
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Жыл бұрын
600 miles for me today too.....can't beat a new bike.....
@Chenreal23
@Chenreal23 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice and information I'm buying my first new bike tomorrow and I wasn't sure what was truth and what was bs After watching this I'm going to go just ride how i would around town and just keep it under 6k for the first 100 miles then 8-10k till the 600 mile service well working the tires and breaks
@mxslick50
@mxslick50 Жыл бұрын
In the early 90's I totally rebuilt my 1986 FZ 750. The mechanic I bought it from said to first use the crappiest, straight 30w oil for the first 200 miles, then switch to good quality non synthetic for the next 3000, and finally to full synthetic after if I wanted to. For that first 200, no steady rpms but be sure to occasionally hit near the rev limiter. After the 200 and first oil change, ride it as hard as I wanted. I never did go full syn, but ran that bike hard for over 45,000 miles. It NEVER burned oil, lost only 2 or less psi compression, and did not even need valve adjustment. (Normal valve interval was 26,000 miles in the 5 valve per Genesis motor). So, break in moderately hard for first 200, then go all out after.
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
That crappy, straight 30w oil was awful advice. The rest wasn’t bad, but you want to break it in with something heavier in zinc, if you’re actually breaking it in. Crappy oil is just that, crappy. He was right about not switching to full synthetic right off the bat. It prolongs the breakin period, because it lubricates better. It doesn’t allow parts to wear into themselves as fast.
@kegancook2360
@kegancook2360 Жыл бұрын
I know you dislike the engine but I just bought a new 2022 Kawasaki Z650RS. I live in a very rural area so bike selection is slim. I wanted an XSR700 or 900 but it just wasn’t happening. This video came out just in time though so I can learn how to break in that slug of an engine.
@cristianpuiulet1519
@cristianpuiulet1519 Жыл бұрын
The Z650RS is a fantastic bike, really great value for money! It may not be the most "charismatic" engine but it's a great engine, and I personally think the looks of the bike are great. Awesome choice, happy riding!
@2shoestoo
@2shoestoo Жыл бұрын
Why apologize for the brand of bike you purchased? You got a new bike and now your good to go, be safe!
@kegancook2360
@kegancook2360 Жыл бұрын
@@2shoestoo absolutely. I was just cracking jokes about how Yam hates on the Kawi 650 engine. I am super happy with my bike and excited to put some serious commuter miles on it this summer.
@cycle-98
@cycle-98 Жыл бұрын
Nice I just bought a 2023 last week! I think for my uses,and at my current skill level, the 650 has plenty to offer.
@MikeColorblind2369
@MikeColorblind2369 3 ай бұрын
I Just bought a 2024 Kawasaki Vulcan S on Tuesday. I have been following the manufacturer's break in period guidance and it has been brutal. The manual says during the first 250 miles that I should keep the RPMs under 4k and it is killing me! Putting around at 40mph on the back roads... However, Thanks to this video, I think I will just cruise on it like I planned to, Thanks Yammie!
@userbadshah
@userbadshah Жыл бұрын
I would say its about avoiding heat by keeping revs low. Too much heat may wear things out specially when new engine isn't clean. My bike ran really hot for 2 hours straight due to traffic right after I took the delivery. Even though I kept RPMs low I still engine doesn't like running in hot conditions of India. In evening it runs butter smooth, and bike feels alive.
@RoadRambl3r
@RoadRambl3r Жыл бұрын
How the hell did you know to make this video today?! I just ordered a new ninja 400 few hours ago!!! what kind of magic is that 😂
@juanmata3394
@juanmata3394 Жыл бұрын
What year bro
@Dobzie795
@Dobzie795 Жыл бұрын
​@@juanmata3394 Er..he said new?
@AtomicBoo
@AtomicBoo 5 ай бұрын
I knoww, im still waiting for the kawasaki dealership message that my new bike arrived, i cant freaking wait! Been bingewatching him and others like crazy!
@joshroberts6459
@joshroberts6459 Жыл бұрын
On high end sports cars engines in the past few years, the computers (ECM) actually don't allow you to go above 4000rpm on the throttle for the first 500kms, then you do an oil change and it allows full throttle. That tells you everything you need to know.
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
Some sport bikes do the same thing. Although, my cbr1000rr manual just sad avoid heavy acceleration and braking until the 600 mile oil change. There aren’t many things besides our father in heaven that I trust, but Honda engineers are one of them. Lol.
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
Some sport bikes do the same thing. Although, my cbr1000rr manual just sad avoid heavy acceleration and braking until the 600 mile oil change. There aren’t many things besides our father in heaven that I trust, but Honda engineers are one of them. Lol.
@angusmethane3802
@angusmethane3802 21 күн бұрын
When breaking in my 2021 yz450fx: first 2-3 heat cycles didn’t see much torque but still seen increasing rpm. Around the 4th or 5th ride, I got her warmed up and ran it hard a few times down a local dirt road. Now I treat her very nice, very mellow for a 450. Great bike would recommend highly for enduro
@PSviewpoint
@PSviewpoint Ай бұрын
Your absolutely correct I just bought a new 2024 ZX14R and went through the break in period and oil change
@Alkany.
@Alkany. Жыл бұрын
Got an Africa Twin last month as my first bike, im still breaking in (102 miles), i'm doing a bit of both since im not a hard driver (its my first big bike), 6 years ago i used to drive 150cc and 200cc from my uncles.
@GreenDragon636
@GreenDragon636 Жыл бұрын
I basically ride it from day 1 like I ride it on day 365. I don't bounce off the revi limiter or ride on the highway so I naturally ride with varying RPM around the Blue Ridge Mountain twisties.
@DrKampfpudding
@DrKampfpudding Жыл бұрын
Actually THIS is the real answer 👇 Do exactly what the manufacturer/ manual tells you to do . Modern motorcycles are driving computers . If you get a problem and the dealership reads out your bike and sees that you didn't give a fuck about the break in period then they have an argument for refusing warranty repair
@ardybat
@ardybat 10 ай бұрын
Its not only the piston, its equally important for the crankshaft bearing.
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
I bought a new, 2021 cbr1000rr in august, and the manual literally said just be nice to it for the first 600 miles. Lol.
@marcmanalac8198
@marcmanalac8198 Жыл бұрын
Back in my day, the dealer I bought my dual sport from told me to just ride it normal not crazy. That’s it. This was 2 years ago.
@user-bf1fs6bl9u
@user-bf1fs6bl9u 11 ай бұрын
Well ,I run no more that 55 miles and hr on state streets that alow 55 mph for 500 mile change oil and filter at 500 and ride normal after. That has been exellent for all 5 of my motorcycles. Never have a engine problem.
@nick_coles_art
@nick_coles_art Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Ive just put a deposit down on my first bike. Brand new kawasaki z650. And ive been wonderinh about this break in period. After this vid im alot more confident about it. Thanks dude.
@overthoughtandunderstated
@overthoughtandunderstated 11 ай бұрын
Being that you bought a 650 for your first home, go soft break-in! ;)
@ivan.00.ruslan
@ivan.00.ruslan Жыл бұрын
Thanks…I’m looking forward to doing a wheelie while leaving the dealership
@epvp8349
@epvp8349 8 ай бұрын
i’d say ride your bike like how you want it to, my grandfather bought a new motorcycle and took the “soft break in” route, and because he babied his bike too much, it runs slower compared to the other same model bikes. Moral of the story, just run it like how you would want the bike to run. Don’t worry too much about breaking it, especially if it’s a japanese brand.
@cksrobloxlife8540
@cksrobloxlife8540 Жыл бұрын
They have done tons of research on this. There is no difference between a hard brake in and a soft brake in. You just need to just ride it like it’s intended to only thing you should do is change the oil more often until you hit 600 miles. You will have some metal flakes in it that is OK it’s common. The manual says don’t do high RPMs it’s because they don’t want you to break anything while it’s under warranty.
@Sunrazor
@Sunrazor Жыл бұрын
The warranty here is 5 years on Yamaha and Honda. Suzuki has 7 years. Kawasaki 2 years. The manuals statement to avoid warranty claims can't be true. You will easily pass the break in period in a couple of months even if you don't ride alot.
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Жыл бұрын
Excellent timing...literally just collected my new Hayabusa....
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the turboing videos. 🤘🏻
@techtonicblast4421
@techtonicblast4421 Жыл бұрын
You got a busa and don’t already know how to break in a bike? God help you.
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Жыл бұрын
Why? I last bought a new bike decades ago. Why should I be an expert on breaking a new bike in? @@techtonicblast4421
@stoundingresults
@stoundingresults 4 ай бұрын
I changed the oil and filter at 400 miles after a rebuild, again at 400 miles and once more at 1000 on my 1995 nissan truck. And that little sucker idles smoooth. It burns gas so efficiently that water vapor drips on the exhaust. Oh by the way first 400 miles i kept it under 35 mph and off freeways, and sporadic take offs. Noticed the smoothness getting better and better each drive. Followed my mechanics orders of keeping it slow the first 400 miles, used O'rilleys conventional oil and filters, nothing fancy. I remember the first peppy accelaration going uphills.
@Jeremiah_Johnson139
@Jeremiah_Johnson139 Ай бұрын
Something to keep in mind: A lot of modern motorcycles have a "tattle-tail" in the diagnostics. So if you deviate from the manufacturers break-in procedure in the manual, and something catastrophically breaks, they'll be able to tell when they hook it up to their diagnostic computer, when you try to get it repaired "under warranty". So.... hard-break-in if you want, but I wouldn't want a brand new (broken) motorcycle that I'm not only going to have to make the monthly payments on, but also have to come up with thousands of dollars to fix it, just so it will run!
@MRONETEN
@MRONETEN 3 ай бұрын
I always used the hard break in and not had any problems
@TriumphBeezaman
@TriumphBeezaman Жыл бұрын
When the Honda Fireblade first came out Honda told race teams it's good to go from the off & will give more power riding hard. They put a break in period in the hand book probably for people to familiarise themselves with such a powerful bike. My last CBR600 hand book didn't really say much about the break or at what rpm but my previous one did.
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
That is because racing teams, and people riding their bikes on the road. Is not the same riding, not the same service intervals. Not even the same bikes or parts. You can never take advise from a race bike, to a road bike. They have service on the bike after every race. Do you tear down your engine after you taken your bike out for a weekend ride? Don't think so. Stop comparing your self with racers and race bikes. They also don't use the bikes that long. And chance parts all the time. If they blow a gearbox, they chance it… You would probably had to sell the bike, or wait to save up the money; to have a shop fix it. This is really spreading misinformation that really can hurt other people. But this is OK…?
@TriumphBeezaman
@TriumphBeezaman Жыл бұрын
@@Gismo3333 if you read what i said it's what Honda said & not what i would do or recommend, it's all documented in the Haynes book of the Honda Fireblade CBR 900R by Rob Simmonds.
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
@@TriumphBeezaman -- Stop using & in your comments. It seems like you are using it instead of "and". That is not what it mean. I think you did not understand or did not read my comment. You did not even understand your own first comment, it seems. This is a tip to a race team's, and to be used on race-bikes, that probably never runs more then 1-2K miles before it get trashed. You can't use this on road bikes with 3000 - 6000 mile intervals on service. Race-bike have a service after every race. And also closely monitored under the race. You never see a race-bike run 60 000 miles+… It is not the same bikes. Even if the names are similar.
@satur9satur9
@satur9satur9 Жыл бұрын
I don't hit limiter . But I break my bikes in a little hard. My 701 doesn't burn oil. Yet I hear many people complain about. 690/701 oil consumption.
@1069JKT
@1069JKT Жыл бұрын
A Harley mechanic recommended getting up through the gears quickly to 3rd and 60mph, then let off and engine break, repeat 3 times…that breaks it in, the engine braking seats the seals. I did one bike per manufacturer and one this way and swear the engine break method felt like it ran smoother. Then change the oil at 100 -125 miles. After that, don’t go crazy but ride as normal. For the brakes, smooth progressive braking.
@abdullahk1707
@abdullahk1707 Жыл бұрын
yam please share your in depth observation of the motorcycle scene in india that you saw apart from Jaisalmer
@lucadegennaro734
@lucadegennaro734 4 ай бұрын
I've owned at least 10 brand new bikes from beginner to the big boys zx14,hayabusa etc. Cruisers to touring and sport ive never broke in a new bike I just rode it and never had a problem ever from all manufactures
@camgere
@camgere Жыл бұрын
How many times do you see this in movies and TV shows? Guy gets in vehicle, starts it, and immediately burns rubber leaving. A nice lesson in vehicle abuse.
@theenzoferrari458
@theenzoferrari458 Жыл бұрын
Cry harder. Maybe you'll create a river so you'll float downstream away and find people that care. 😭😭😭💩🤡
@FairladyS130
@FairladyS130 4 ай бұрын
Hard break in involving plenty of varying load on the engine at medium revs with the occasional venture towards the red line. Don't let it lug at all or run at constant load/revs for long.
@stoney10
@stoney10 11 күн бұрын
Thank you
@therealkerberos2288
@therealkerberos2288 10 ай бұрын
Don't be afraid to talk about a valve job to go along with that oil change.
@FraeschD
@FraeschD Жыл бұрын
I have heard arguments on the hard break-in side that you need to build up oil pressure by riding it as hard as humanly possible to also fully seat the seal rings. I personally think it doesn't matter anymore how you break in the engine with todays motorcycles.
@Greasy__Bear
@Greasy__Bear Жыл бұрын
Most engines now have variable oil pumps and the pressure doesnt significantly change like it did 5-10 years ago.
@JJJ-zs5nw
@JJJ-zs5nw 7 ай бұрын
I usually take an angle grinder to the tires to get em sticky. Then I will file down the brake pads to ensure the meat is causing the friction. Otherwise I just drive it on road and people a lawns to get the variable rpm’s.
@D31209
@D31209 Жыл бұрын
Getting my first bike in the morning. Burnout and wheelie first thing. That's why I'm subscribed to Yammie Noob
@NykesterWaltzz
@NykesterWaltzz Жыл бұрын
How’s your new bike?
@D31209
@D31209 Жыл бұрын
@@NykesterWaltzz I love it can't wait to ride everyday
@fukyu3739
@fukyu3739 Жыл бұрын
You had my trust until I saw the hipster with the man bun on the google machine with the mood lighting in the background.
@mala7794
@mala7794 Жыл бұрын
ryan f9 made a video explaining how to brake in a new bike. its pretty old but it is very intresting
@faintcosmos9232
@faintcosmos9232 Жыл бұрын
I have had two bikes in the past year and bought both with around 300 miles on them. I rode the first bike (Z 125) till around 1,000 miles and changed the oil I rode it hard and had no issues. The second bike (Duke 390) I have also rode hard and the owner's manual said to wait and change the oil at 2,400 miles which I thought was weird I have ridden about 2,000 miles on it and have now changed the oil and have found no issues. I guess my point is that yes you can change your oil early but if you are mechanically inclined you would notice any issues found. I am definitely on the side of hard break in.
@poker8193
@poker8193 3 ай бұрын
I seat the rings by heat cycling before it leaves the shop so it can be tuned in the dyno and the owner don’t have to worry with it. Most guys are gonna go crack it wide open anyway after they pay 4k in upgrades
@TrenTonyo_NoobMoto
@TrenTonyo_NoobMoto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Yam. I’ve been watching your videos religiously while I gear up to buy my 1st bike, a brand new CFMOTO 450SS. The break in period has been one of the more confusing things for me to understand. However, after watching this I feel like I have some minute understanding of the scientific or mechanical importance of the break in and that makes me feel a little better. 🦑
@joe2479
@joe2479 Жыл бұрын
I think you should load and unload the engine. You know, engine braking. Accelerate, cruise a bit, engine brake. Also lots of heat cycles.
@Andre96272
@Andre96272 9 ай бұрын
I do believe in not redlining it for the first 50-150 miles, keep the revs moving around, show it some load but no lugging, engine braking,, then drop that oil and send it! Change oil again about 1-200 miles later than normal intervals. Engines break in alot earlier than 1000 miles
@jimmythecacodemon2397
@jimmythecacodemon2397 Жыл бұрын
“Take heed to the manufacturer’s recommendations” ZX4RR wants you to keep it at or below 4k rpm, I tried that and in 6th gear I was going 42 mph, I think that’s one recommendation I definitely won’t be listening to 💀
@user-lc5mw6vp1o
@user-lc5mw6vp1o 6 ай бұрын
Well intentioned video. However. After owning 22 motorcycles and over 60 years of riding, my recommendation is to follow the manufacturer's guidelines and you just can't have too many oil changes, especially the first few thousand miles. Each one removes more metal shavings from the cylinders and will reduce wear in the long run. Honda, for example, sells nearly 20 million motorcycles per year and I think they know more than a you tuber. That said, I doubt you can really hurt a modern bike unless you really abuse it. So just riding it sensibly and changing the oil is my best practice suggestion. Just my opinion.
@StardustADV
@StardustADV Жыл бұрын
guy at the dealer gave me funny advice: Gentle, low RPM riding for 300 miles... then just have fun for the next 300, rev her all the way up when you see the oportunity, just dont hold red-line for to long.
@PhillyFail
@PhillyFail Жыл бұрын
I don't know I'd probably do a combination of that. Run the manufacturer one then do hard breaking after but I guess it's done breaking in if you finish the manufacturer one but you know
@AJRestoration
@AJRestoration Жыл бұрын
My uncle said "fukin send it" Just drive it. He said most engines are RTR-ready to ride from the factory.
@bleedsmetal
@bleedsmetal Ай бұрын
Thank You .
@leftymadrid
@leftymadrid Ай бұрын
First off... Use good gas ⛽ then run for an hour not hitting the low to mid RPM's Not too high, take a break let cool down a bit. To cool off and then get engine running temperature again is good to do. Stay off the highway... Keeping in mind that the brakes and tires are also breaking in the same time😢. The cables, chain, and other engine internals cam chain, piston rings, etc... just ride normal without pushing it ... First oil change at 1000 klms, that is what my manual says, then every 5.000 kilometers. With a very good 100% synthetic oil.
@CensoredFreedom615
@CensoredFreedom615 Жыл бұрын
I bought a new thumper for my first bike . Gotta take care of that piston. Its the only one I got.
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
The more important, that is more important. Is to be smooth on the gearbox and all the controls. They you also learn to be a much better rider. They you mostly don't get problems later, with hard to get into neutral… Or the bike get hard to get in or out of some of the gears. Or even that the bike sometimes jump out of gear. Chancing the cylinder is noting compared to changing the gearbox. Or even fix some gears in the trans. That is when most people just buy a new engine, another part-bike or a new bike. So it is more to let the gear box loosen up before you wear in the gears. Or they are going to be way to loose when the gearbox loosen up.
@DakotahNaugle
@DakotahNaugle Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a fan of breaking the bike in how you plan on riding it 90% of the time.
@proxxxx8903
@proxxxx8903 Ай бұрын
what happens when you cruise at a specific rpm for long periods? please someone explain
@___gab0954
@___gab0954 2 ай бұрын
And what about the Honda xr150 that is the same motorcycle of the past 15-20 years, how is the break in?
@escadrila9271
@escadrila9271 23 күн бұрын
My first ride stalled it by moving into gear without pressing clutch. First 20p meter i went over 7rpm cause i was used to m car where i shift waay late and still in 4rpm. So i kinda rev it high for few second And drove 10rpm for 20 seconds. I hope i didn't damaged it....
@TacticalT
@TacticalT Ай бұрын
I’ve been doing a mix of the two on my bike. Medium break in? I live in an area where highway is more of a convenience than a necessity so I haven’t had the need to take it on the highway yet.
@speedy1737
@speedy1737 Жыл бұрын
Love ya Yam
@hapyharyhard0n581
@hapyharyhard0n581 Жыл бұрын
Wait, ...you can buy a bike new!?!? ...I might have to try that sometime.
@Dylzhaar
@Dylzhaar Жыл бұрын
I went on a tour of the triumph factory and the tour guide told us that there is no need for a break in period at all anymore for their bikes
@jauken83
@jauken83 Жыл бұрын
"Run it in fast, it'll be fast!" The Kevin Talbot method.
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, most of his cars are broken within 10 minutes.
@jauken83
@jauken83 Жыл бұрын
@@darkiee69 lol, as long as I dont take my bike to the skate park, I think I'll be alright.
@juanjosegrafico
@juanjosegrafico Жыл бұрын
that guy is awesome!! hehehe
@jesuisFORTIO
@jesuisFORTIO Жыл бұрын
some may say the best way to break in a new bike is as 5 min long burnout in the parking lot of the dealer, dont forget the test that redline, after all you paid for it!
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
That is going to be really expensive 5 min. Do you really think the dealer is going to pay for the damaged, after 1-5 years when you are trying to sell that wreck?
@jesuisFORTIO
@jesuisFORTIO Жыл бұрын
@@Gismo3333 its a joke bro chill 🤣
@flibbertigibbet6200
@flibbertigibbet6200 2 ай бұрын
I would sooner just follow the manual guidelines as they design and spend millions on R&D. And like seen recently on some channels with new bikes thrashed during break in the manufacture won't cover it, this was BMW. If it does go bang during the break in period, they will plug it in and see whats been going on, then not repair it. Up to the individual, but I know what path im taking with my brand new ZH2
@Outlawv21992
@Outlawv21992 Жыл бұрын
yeah Chris Moore himself bought a ZX10R and was roll racing it with like 50 miles on it.... he said the break in is for roookies...
@dmvbenz7536
@dmvbenz7536 Жыл бұрын
Lol I bought 2 of the same bikes, 1 dealer told me to take it easy until 500 miles The other dealer told me after 100 miles I can rip on it all I want
@mutasimsalah
@mutasimsalah 9 күн бұрын
Yami I just got a new R1 and the manual suggestion for break in is really boring , if I keep the bike under 7k rpm till 1k miles I might miss the riding season , do u think it's ok to take it on short road trips alone and keep it below red line and mid throttle but hit 120 mph at probably 9k/10.5k rpm , at the moment my max speed is 75 mph which will take me ages to reach 1000 miles
@ridelikebuu
@ridelikebuu Жыл бұрын
Most manufacturers nowadays do the engine break-in for you. Such as Aprilia
@_only1yugi88
@_only1yugi88 Жыл бұрын
I bought a grom brand new after breaking it in it had a misfire lol , unfortunately it was totaled
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
How did you break a unbreakable bike? It's a Honda?
@juanjosegrafico
@juanjosegrafico Жыл бұрын
Hello! to get to those 600 miles , do you recommend to do it with long rides o short ones ? or its the same ? Thank you .. Greetings from Costa Rica
@RacingEnclave
@RacingEnclave Жыл бұрын
Just bought a new 2023 Z900, I have a 2005 R6 for the track and a grom. I totally don’t know which is the best break in because I ride fast.
@allenpalaganas2571
@allenpalaganas2571 2 ай бұрын
I just got my beginner 400cc bike and i didn’t read the manual. For the first day, I rode my motorcycle reaching 127km but when I saw the manual on the next day, it says there I should limit my speed to 60kmph. Should I be worried?
@hisaanhaq4116
@hisaanhaq4116 Жыл бұрын
I rode my new gsxr 1000 r pretty normally for the first 375 miles didnt really go over 7-8krpm but used more load as miles increased and had some spirited rides, using plenty of throttle, bike never ran hard unless fully warmed up. Had first service done at 375 then hit 10kish rpm and after 500 miles 10-12krpm here and there, had a long highway ride too tried to vary revs at this point i was in high 500s 600 miles. I believe bike was pretty much run in way earlier than we think Just my 2 pence
@8OneOfTheNobodies8
@8OneOfTheNobodies8 Жыл бұрын
I remember when my Z900 was new .. first 1000 km should be under 4000 rpm, that is pretty low for a "sport" bike
@davisb69
@davisb69 Жыл бұрын
Take it straight from the dealer to a track and keep it at red line until you reach the first thousand or so miles.
@257796
@257796 Жыл бұрын
Your owners manual will tell you exactly what to do. Follow directions. Change oil at 150, 600, & 1000. It don't cost much
@chetlyp
@chetlyp Жыл бұрын
My bike redlines at 8000 but yammie if you say I can't run up to 10,000 after 1000 miles I'm gonna do my best to run that bigger up there. If it's best for my bike than I trust you Yams.
@angelsmalls7044
@angelsmalls7044 Жыл бұрын
I follow TFM. Guess the guys who build it knows best.
@Menace1-5Tactical
@Menace1-5Tactical 10 ай бұрын
Great topic but I fuckin lost it when he said "engine longetivity" at 1:00
@laez
@laez Жыл бұрын
My experience might just be anecdotal, however I’ve owned around 20 bikes now. The one time I didn’t follow the manufacturer’s break in instructions, at only a few thousand the engine seized. YMMV (hopefully) and the manufacturer did replace the bike. Circumstantial? Who knows!
@AzianDragonz
@AzianDragonz Жыл бұрын
Anyone have any idea why they don't do this at the factory and sell bikes ready to ride?
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
My take on that, is people don't want a bike that has been ridden for 1000-2000km. And what about people that want a low km bike? But mostly it is the gearbox that has to loosen up, before any hard racing on the bike. It is no problem with normal use. You don't need to drive slow, short shift or do anything special. Just be smooth, and slow on the controls. Don't do anything real quick, and you be fine.
@AzianDragonz
@AzianDragonz Жыл бұрын
@Gismo TB I meant why don't they break in the engine before putting it on the bike. This way a bike with a broken in engine starts at mile 0.
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
@@AzianDragonz -- No, the parts still are used. A master tech mechanic don't need to look at the ODO-meter to see that a part is used and not new. The ODO-meter only makes it easier so see how much the bike has been used. But not the only way. And breaking in the bike is not a hard thing to do. Don't go hard on the bike, and not race it. Use the bike in the RPM range that is the most easier on the bike. And be slow, smooth and easy on the controls. And you be fine. You can do it in less then a week. You are actually making a problem with trying to fix something, that is not a problem to begin with. But will be a problem when you fixed it. If you want a broken in bike. Just buy a used one. If they had to drive the bike 1000-2000 km or even more to really break in the gearbox all the way. That would maybe doable the price of the bike. And know one would pay for that. Most people want even pay for safety gear. They rather die, then get sweaty. You can even pay someone to break it in for you. I bet it is not hard to find someone that want to ride a new bike around, and even get payed to ride it. That would be a great job to have. Just ride new bikes all day, every day. And never have to pay for anything. And even get payed… That is a dream job… And you can even go where you want to go. What it all come down to, is that most people are lazy as fuck, and only want to do the fun stuff all the time. But that is not life. That fun stuff, gets boring real quick if you never do boring stuff.
@saberune
@saberune Жыл бұрын
This for a car, but engines are engines. I was once told by good mechanic, “drive it like you want it to run”.
@dalakwatsero1808
@dalakwatsero1808 Жыл бұрын
For me as long as your mc is need power try not to limit it but try squeeze more power acceleration but not totally fully rev so after 100-300km I usually make a full throttle but limit time only until my mc power and fastened pickup
@billbonu1639
@billbonu1639 9 ай бұрын
Whut?
@smus2845
@smus2845 Жыл бұрын
fz6r in the beginning lets goo lol
@smus2845
@smus2845 Жыл бұрын
@YammeNoob nice try
@theodorecalkins4212
@theodorecalkins4212 Жыл бұрын
My advice for new bike (or a rebuilt engine) owners has always been "be nice." After a few hundred miles you'll know of the engine of going to grenade under pressure and you can go nuts at that point.
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
That is not the same. Rebuilt engine has never been run, before. All parts are new and unused. The new bike have been used and tested. I would not push the bike hard before the gear box and the whole engine has loosen up a bit. That can make the bike feel trashy. You can get problems with getting it into neutral and pop out of gear. Hard to shift. But that comes later. Maybe when you are about to sell the bike. Then it gets hard to sell, and the price drops hard. The cylinders are not the most important to run in. The hard part to fix is the gearbox and the other parts. Just look at all the problems whit Jam's Turbo Busa. Not all people care to do things careful. You skip something to make it easier, it blows up later. That is how you make problems, not see to that they don't happen.
@theodorecalkins4212
@theodorecalkins4212 Жыл бұрын
@Gismo TB maybe be nice means something to you that it doesn't mean to me. With 45 years of riding, the meaning has changed for me since I first heard it. My 2022 MT09 got a few hundred miles of less than 8k rpm before I started abusing it. My 1982 v45 Sabre got almost 1,000.
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
@@theodorecalkins4212 -- Riding for 45 years, can be riding every day for 45 year; to have a bike outside the house for 45 years. I have seen a woman ride 8000 miles in 24 days. So how many years you have had a bike, do not say much to me. Riding a bike maybe 200 miles and then abusing it. Abusing a bike, maybe you think it sounds tough to say. if you are 16 years old… but not when you are 60… That bike will not hold much miles. If you sell the bike, I feel sorry for the one buying it from you. Because that bike is going to fall apart, not long after. It do not sound like you know so much about bikes, that you trying to make it out to be. This is what a 16-20 year old would think is impressive. Not a old gay like me. To me it sound like whole lot of horseshit and bull crap. And you have no clue what you are talking about. I would say you are a new rider, like most people watching this videos. And are abusing your first bike. And are clueless to what you have to look forward to. This is not the way to talk about bikes, and give tips to new riders, if you know how bikes work. And also have a lifetime experience. I would say you need to grow up real quick… Before you hurt your self or someone else.
@theodorecalkins4212
@theodorecalkins4212 Жыл бұрын
@Gismo TB about 500,000 miles give or take a few. You're a funny guy. I'm not concerned with what you think of me, only a 15 year old kid would be.
@Ahowland75
@Ahowland75 Жыл бұрын
So that new bike has got to be an R1
@JoshDerenburger
@JoshDerenburger Жыл бұрын
Was planning on getting a new bike this year (if so be my first new new one) and was thinking of how to break in. Gonna be a jump in engine size so the break-in period is probably going to be me getting used to the size difference
@Gismo3333
@Gismo3333 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are going up in power way to early. You should then have no problem doing a stoppy on your new bike… And don't be bothered at all by some car pulling out in-front of you. Changing lanes to miss cars. You should not have to get used to the bigger weight or power of the bike. Then you need more training on your small bike. Training to be better on a bigger bike, is really much hard and much more dangerous. It is like talking 5-10+ years (or maybe never) to learn what take 1-2 years on a smaller bike.
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
@@Gismo3333 literally nobody on the planet moves up in power and size on a motorcycle without some kind of adjustment period. Nobody. Every, single person that has ever went from a 600 super sport to a liter bike has had to take a bit to train their muscle memory again to allow for the difference in acceleration.
@thagingerninjer5391
@thagingerninjer5391 Жыл бұрын
Josh, you’re doing it the right way, man. It will take some time getting used to a bigger bike. Good luck and be safe, man.
@NOONE-hp8bw
@NOONE-hp8bw Жыл бұрын
Moore mafia has shown a hard break in is better for hp
@SuperDukEvo
@SuperDukEvo 8 ай бұрын
Ofcourse i will follow the manufacturers manual, manufacturer wants your bike to be broke in properly for longevity of the motor to keep consumers satisfaction so that being said holding their good standing reputation for the company. So follow their recommendations and manuals.
@666camel666
@666camel666 3 ай бұрын
mine said : 350km not over 4000 rpm after 600km not over 6000 rpm ocasional revs dow not harm the engine
@ko-ko5598
@ko-ko5598 Жыл бұрын
Hard break in, to know if it breaks or not 😁
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