Yanis Varoufakis on Anti-Semitism, Israel and Palestine | DiEM25

Yanis Varoufakis' contribution to an internal debate of DiEM25's Coordinating Collective on Anti-Semitism.
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[@frankzabow2673]

As a Jew who grew up in South Africa and settled in Israel 50 years ago, I sadly agree with your every word!

[@buridah328]

Consider writing a book to educate the young, for a better future.

[@mclovin9165]

Jezus Christ what a journey you gotta write a book about that

[@ilhamrahim9269]

Wow! You went went from Apparteid to Apparteid!!

[@salonez91]

Why cant you do something in your country ? Please stop the sensless killing of palestinians, give them back dignitiy, maybe there is still time for redemption. Its more for your own good then anyone elses. If Israel continue to do this its gonna be just matter of time when entire Arab world rises up in the name of Jihad. Trust me i study history the stars have alined again and temperature is extremely high, USA acts to be strong, they are not anymore, they will not be able to protect you without extremely high loss of life on every side.

[@josephinestabel9647]

Mr Varoufakis, People need you ..... 🤞New generation. Time for a DiEM School.. ⚖️ 🌍

[@finneire1282]

A DiEM school is a good idea

[@junaydtariq7182]

“we have a duty to reject the view that speaking about apartheid in Palestinian land is anti-semitic”- Yanis varoufakis

[@CCRmusicfan]

Absolutely agree

[@CCRmusicfan]

The uk should never have agreed to get involved

[@hre2044]

So ethnically replacing Palestinians is NOT okay because Palestine is a specific nation but replacing the ethnic English and racially white population of England and Britain is okay because Britain is a universal state? Is that the stance of leftists?

[@questmarq7901]

@@hre2044 not really. Each culture has to be respected and be respectful at the same time! Britts are known to be neither so y...

[@hre2044]

@@questmarq7901 So if Irish become a minority in Ireland will it be seen as ethnic replacement?

[@attiliadin]

Thank you for your courageous insights of wisdom.

[@theodoretsaousidis8722]

May you be Well Healthy and Happy Dear Mr Varoufakis

[@GhassanB]

Amazingly well put within such a narrow timeframe comrade! Incredibly informed and concise and I could not agree more as a Palestinian myself! Refreshing to hear such a clear-minded voice in the storm of regression and populism that is today's political climate in Europe

[@akmzahidulislam2764]

Yanis, you are a powerful voice of human conscience! Long live comrade!

[@nickclashvids3752]

I love listening to him speak. Right up there with Cornell West and Greta.

[@GrandmaCathy]

100%!!

[@josephorlando5244]

Greta???

[@oiuyuioiuyuio]

Greta what? Please for the love of fuck don't tell me you're thinking of Greta Thunberg, or tell me that you're a troll.

[@perewihongi6457]

Greta? 😂

[@tiggtiggs]

We are what we practice. Humanity, without humanity will eat itself.

[@asifkazmi8733]

I cannot think of a living person whom I currently respect more than this man. He is correct on every single count both in economics and politics.

[@jahanmoh]

Thank You, for your great intellectual Insight, it shows that your are a truly deep soul.

[@api644]

Thank you for the clarity you bring Yanis

[@nandanugent]

Thanks for an intelligent discussion Yanis.

[@salemfathi2532]

Mr Varoufakis, we both are intellectuals; I have the deepest respect for you, for tackiling the truth from all sides: Thank yoiu

[@sharonburgher5278]

He has articulated so precisely my views on these topics.

[@prashantbagde365]

Thank you for this Yanis. I share the words and ideas in this. You speak the truth and here you made the things clear. This messages really demands our urgent attention. Thanks a lot for making us aware and and doing so continuously.

[@georgejakovidis236]

Your words have expressed exactly how I felt about this issue for many years. The Licudnics have never believed an 😮eye for an eye. It was more like 1 eye for 10 eyes.

[@amilasulejmanovicofficialc5936]

What a brilliant presentation,thank you Yanis !

[@GrandmaCathy]

5 min.? I could listen to you for days. All the truth coming out.

[@johnorem1915]

Hearing truth is not widely available in much of the world, especially, today from the U.S. govt.

[@mamanlo]

We are beyond lucky to have the clear voice of Yanis in this moment and era of absolute madness and nonsense. Thank god for people like you.

[@azadrasheed497]

Every European every African every Asian,Australian above all every taxpayer/citizen of USA should hear Yanis Varoufakis.

[@adelaarroyoperez5800]

Thanks for your support and unvaluable help.

[@gregolsen1489]

“When you say NEVER AGAIN the NEVER AGAIN is not that people should not again attack jews then NEVER AGAIN is that human being should not treat other people like that.” Dr. Gabor Mate

[@NymphZoic68]

Yanis, You are incorrect to say apartheid is / was nowhere except S.A and Israel. Apartheid Australia and of course U.S especially 'crow' laws.

[@rockyfjord3753]

No, I think apartheid is when a minority subjugates a majority, so US racial demographic would not support that idea.

[@NymphZoic68]

​@@rockyfjord3753 Not necessarily - 'apartheid' i.e the policy of racist segregation / discrimination.

[@guygex31]

@@rockyfjord3753 but Jews are the majority in the territory of Israel+west bank+Gaza

[@majdavojnikovic]

Apartheid is a Dutch word, and didn't start with a negative connotation.

[@ivorstodolsky4433]

Yes, and this makes the issue of singling out Israel so controversial and - intentionally or unintentionally - racist.

[@Dylan-po6cd]

chilling to watch in 2024

[@mieliav]

an important point you didn't mention: there are differences between the situation w/ the occupied or partly occupied arab population and the arab citizens of israel. big differences. that omission aside, this is a refreshingly honest take and one close to my own. mr varofakis always gives me the best kind of food for the best kind of thought.

[@josephschaumberg4136]

Aren’t Native American Reservations in the USA a form of Apartheid?

[@nathanielibrahim3492]

Reservations are really what Native Americans prefer, I think, at least the ones who live on them. Reservations exist today because some people want to be separate from the American system, independent governance, police, etc, not because they are forced to. Now, the way that reservations are disadvantaged in our current system is something similar to apartheid, and the way that reservations were created were through violent separation of people from their land. I think most early Americans were not trying to create apartheid, but to take the land from Native Americans and either forcibly integrate them(a form of cultural genocide) or kill them (more absolute genocide). I think if the Israelis were to give the people of Gaza Strip freedom to leave and import and export, and have a semi-independent government over Gaza, but under the Israeli system which they have full rights to participate in, that would be similar to what the Americans did, and something distinct from what they have now.

[@robertstan298]

Yes and no.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

Absolutely

[@fieldlab4]

I think so, and there are no doubt other historical examples. Maybe Western Sahara. I'll have to look at Argentine history, colonial China and India, etc. I believe the US policy towards Native Americans was even part of the example for the gulags and the holocaust.

[@neovxr]

in recent years, things seem to change. there are young native women (of course supported by men but the women invest the most energy) with a huge initiative to improve lives and to research and reestablish as much as possible of the traditional cultures, but not meant as separatism. but they want to make their reservations really into their own space. originally, there were motives of apartheid.

[@jploughlin1358]

☘️Thank you for your extremely valuable analysis ☘️

[@MoneyEducator]

Thank you for speaking about this great injustice on Palestinians, and making distinction between other genocides and apartheid.

[@KarlDMarx]

Thank you Yanis! Daniel Baremboim & Edward Said => West Eastern Divan Orchestra

[@jylyhughes5085]

YES! Thank you Yanis.

[@4pedos]

Brilliant, as usual. Yanis, my hero!

[@eelb78]

thanks from Israel. Two state solution is indeed no possible anymore solution....

[@seviboutos]

I agree with you. I think that the crisis in our days is not the same as it was in the inception. Now, Palestinians identify themselves as connected with outside powers, while Israel is more military than before. I have dreamed of them living jointly, and this comes from the fact that I see college students from both sides addressing the issue every year in a public college of NY I happen to visit often.

[@calbears56]

@@seviboutos There is definitely a generational component to this in the US

[@seviboutos]

@@calbears56 When it gets to stand across a range of different ways of such friction between the two, in this case, Palestinians and Israelis, you are not going to be the right Judge. I have heard different opinions from different American Jews of high intelligence without knowing each other that has made me feel like a lousy diplomat. Needless to say that two of them told me that they do not want to hear any more about the problem there. One of the two explained to me that the politics of Israel have reached out to the States while it should remain there. I think that the UN Security Council has not used all the time and effort to assist them. Yet, the new generation of the children of Jewish people have suffered a lot, bearing all the burden from the past and all the T'shavas, if I spell it correctly, plus the Holocaust that is very exhausting to them.

[@atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891]

@Yewtube IsRunByBolsheviks Remember: the zionist movement accepted the partition plan in 1947, the ara leadership rejected it. Israel offered an independent Palestinian stare in 2000, Arafat rejected it.

[@yashoorg7483]

You are saying it in s mocking way, to prove that israel has a right to take over all the land. You are a regular hasbara troll.

[@julianicholls8704]

Hi Yanis, I think that comparing different oppressions and saying one is more special than another is a mistake. They are all special in their own way. We don't have a pain-o-meter. Lets just work together to irradicate hate and work against disparity so one gets left behind.

[@calbears56]

So did Hannah Arendt

[@philipganchev2306]

Powerful and beautiful!

[@waldfee2283]

Well said!

[@immortalnightbody]

Should have left it at: We shouldn't compare sufferings. One of the things fueling Anti-Semitism is the idea that Semites have suffered the most above all others. This isn't true. But if we are ranking: Anti-Semitism is in no way a "cut above" the treatment of Africans during colonialism and the rampant slave trade (post-treatment included) and certainly not the calculated genocide of the Native Americans. Africans could never and haven't assimilated and been folded into Western Whiteness as Jewish people seemingly have. And to say that a two-state solution isn't possible now is a bit daft considering that Israel was never interested in that solution in the first place. For a reason, I can not divine, Israel has implicitly chosen genocide, apartheid and are under the same spell of power and the undying need to project that power onto others as the Nazis themselves.

[@kayitarejeanpaul2211]

I don't know if What Israel is doing Would go as far as to be qualified as implicitly choosing Genocide... But they are committing atrocities, that's for sure... other than that, Ur analysis is on point!

[@atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891]

Remember: Israel accepted the partition in 47, the arab leadership rejected it. Israel offered an independent Palestinian state in 2000, Arafat rejected it

[@yashoorg7483]

@@atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891 So why are israelian hasbara commentators repeat over and over again of their "historic rights" to the whole territory of former Palestine? Why they say over and over again that there is not such thing as Palestines? Why they keep on insulting Moslems over and over again in dirty ways? What is this bulling and bragging and insulting is all about?

[@immortalnightbody]

@@atidfelixcastillo-najerala6891 - You're talking about shit that happened 20 years ago and almost 100 years ago, respectively. None of that justifies anything that Israel has done to the Palestinian people. The Jewish experience with the Nazis should have birthed understanding and patience, not open-air apartheid and a shameless land grab for Palestinian resources. There is no excuse at this point. Just accept it.

[@hre2044]

@@kayitarejeanpaul2211 Ethnically replacing a nation of people and taking their land I think meets the UN definition of genocide. It's ethnic replacement, same thing being done to whites in Britain and France and America.

[@cinereus3601]

Thank you Yanis

[@mr.expensive3773]

Love how today you have to spend 5 minutes defending the Jews and denouncing antisemitism before being able to criticise Israël ...

[@WoolyChaps]

Never a bad time to denounce antisemitism.

[@mrtherockful]

@Yewtube IsRunByBolsheviks get off the internet you fucking nazi

[@federalreservebrown2507]

and don't dare bring up the 5 dancers.

[@petermeisel816]

Great !

[@natwright8383]

Yanis Varoufakis - the moral compass voice of Europe. I want to live in the world you dream of!

[@massinissabelkouche648]

Bravo 👏🏽

[@ofer130784]

You are speaking the truth, the paradox however is that the apartheid and the occupation policy is making it imposible for a two state solution on one hand and the hatred created by it make it imposible for a one state solution on the other hand. Time needs to pass, old views need to die, young minds free from divided identities need to be born.

[@ChicagoTurtle1]

Those things need to pass indeed. But the default mentality of one people group having “entitlement” to take from another. It’s the merging point of colonialism, exploitation, surveillance state, racism, military corporations, greed, and prison corporations.

[@hre2044]

Never going to happen. Palestinians want a nation state as Israel has. They don't want to accept everyone, they don't want to be 90% asian or 90% black, they want people with Palestinian blood to form the bulk of the nation.

[@ChicagoTurtle1]

@@hre2044. Holy Roman Empire? Are you Italian? Or Austrian?

[@hre2044]

@@ChicagoTurtle1 Neither I just like the reichsadler symbol

[@ofer130784]

@@ChicagoTurtle1 whats your point?

[@Namrevlis1938]

Sir, I understand and like your talk on Israel. Many of your comments are sensible and meaningful, however you clearly did not do enough research. I strongly suggest you go to Haifa and study the population dynamics as Jews, Muslims, Baha'i, Zoroastrians, Christians and a few others have lived in close harmony for decades. In my opinion no country should use religion as a criterion for citizenship or opportunity including, perhaps especially, Israel. Yet I was there some years ago and I met the head of the cardiology department at one of Israel's largest and best hospitals, the Herzliya Medical Center. That doctor, not only highly respected but truly loved by the entire staff, was a Palastinian Muslim. I don't know how many Palistinian Israelis are members of the Knesset today but when I was a resident there were eleven. There are more comments I would like to make but there is not sufficient space here. Best regards, David Silverman, Antalya, Turkey

[@rockyfjord3753]

Very good points made. A historical view of the role Jewish people have played in the financialist sector is complicated, or so I think, by anti-Semiticism. Criticism of the role of Jewish actors vis-a-vis the political realm is also hampered by anti-racist bias, paradoxical as that seems. The Spanish philosopher Ortega y Gasset said that race may have some consistency as reality and a subject for scientific study [this has proved difficult], but racism and anti-racism are topics of journalism and politics. Ortega criticized Arnold Toynbee's rabid anti-racism [labeling everyone racist as it were] in 'An Interpretation of Universal History.' Despite the difficulties, Historical Reason or the dialectic of avoiding the mis-takings of the past for the future, is the methodology by which to understand people and events co-existing in happenstance, circumstance, society, and external reality of nature and the world of man, including both essential [Cartesian idealism] reality and existential reality, the world of things, or so I think.

[@rhonda6791]

Can someone explain why all comments on progressive talks being cut off at a certain point? Does this have anything to do with utube censoring progressives.

[@stevebartley8902]

Well said.

[@jeb-zf4un]

First time post. What would happen if all income is taxed at say 0.5% flat rate gross? When money is received by any and all persons and or organisations it is taxed directly 0.5%?

[@livondiramerian6999]

The truth will prevail.

[@toyotaprius79]

6:44 I think Northern Ireland since the 1920s would have fitted that description.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

I think Ireland since the conquest by the English kings is an apartheid state.....

[@roblanchi5159]

Live in that land as equal members of society, they all have a long way to go.

[@jimbob-robob]

This was good...

[@jamesstuart4018]

👏👏👏

[@MSYNGWIE12]

You make, Yanis, as usual, a very pertinent, is that word strong enough, ? I am not near your I.Q. and pharmacology (legal!) doesn't help, but that's another talk... I have heard people argue these other genocides need to be recognized for the severity, genuineness, etc and I without really thinking as you have done before laying your charge- thanks for enlightening me, not just to be able to say but The Holocaust, which I do often talk about as the most appalling, EVIL, ever committed against a nationality- it is but people get fed up with hearing again- (to me they harbour anti-Semitic feelings). You, Yanis Varoufakis, are a TOPIC that gets me into trouble ! ... But I am NOT going to back down. I have bought 2 of your books and will purchase the others, and I will continue to listen to you on all platforms. Let us ALL pray, hope for PEACE and a NEW ORDER. Namaste, Z

[@user-kg7dp5xo5q]

I do not have the power to hand out "SAINTHOOD" - but my personal viewpoint is that Yanis Varoufakis is definitely a SAINT - or as we say in YIDDISH he is a MENCH ( a human being - maybe the only one amongst us)😇😇😇

[@shacharh5470]

Israeli leftist here. IMO the most practical solution would be some sort of a confederation. A single monolithic state wouldn't work, at least not right away (maybe we can eventually transition into that).

[@GhassanB]

Why not?

[@calbears56]

As an American, I find this interesting, because I think his view is grounded in Europe. I do not think you can make this statement as the case for everyplace at all time-that is the "cut above" and "unique." This is because the consciousness of people in the "developing world" are located in a very different relationship to Europe. BUT as speaking from and about Europe, yes.

[@salonez91]

And here we are 2 years later. Everything went down the drain with peacefull efforts. Damn those who support apartheid regime in Israel (USA, NATO...). Sad days for the world. Seams like not just palestinians, but everyone is feeling doom days are close as leaders of this world have no sense of humanity left.

[@louistracy6964]

καλή δουλειά!

[@magouliana32]

Great slavery ?

[@louistracy6964]

@@magouliana32 Oxi, slavery is 'doo-LEE-a. Work has emphasis on the 'a'. Note accent above the 'a'. Same root though.

[@magouliana32]

@@louistracy6964 τα γνωρίζω, όμως είναι δούλος του κουμουνισμου , εργασία χρειαζόμαστε για την Ελλάδα όχι άλλους δούλους.

[@ttmallard]

Are Semites a Tribe, in the USA Indians get a green sheet with their confirmed heritage mix? Does this exist for Semites?

[@roblanchi5159]

Yanis you are brilliant. I believe the two-state solution is just a waste of time. the best and also difficult route is all those people regardless of their ethnicity have the right to

[@BenjaminGatti]

All racisms are equal, some are more equal than others.

[@MrBrownstick]

👏👏👏👍

[@galbisabdi5807]

A bitter pill for both sides to swallow.

[@samizannad1844]

Remarkable statements and very wise views! If you allow me to make a little correction, dear Yanis..: South Africa AND Rhodesia, two neighbouring countries, not only one. But indeed it was the same area on the planet. And now Israel: a disgrace as you point it out

[@felicitygamble745]

Thank you Yanks. Totally correct.

[@felicitygamble745]

Yanis! Damn autocorrect...

[@yiasemide]

@@felicitygamble745 I liked it myself.

[@alnadiSrbija-fm1wq]

In the name of our killed cheldren. .THANK YOU

[@Rubylove48]

I believe apartheid was practiced in australia with the segregation and dehumanisation of indigenous Australians. There was also the white Australia immigration policy under which non white professionals were recruited from other countries given residency but had no rights.

[@Achrononmaster]

Please understand Yanis is using the term "Apartheid" correctly, it means subjugation and racial segregation of a majority by a minority, the Afrikaan use the term "Baasskap" (literally: "boss-hood" or "white supremacy"). Other forms of racial segregation can be just as abominable, perhaps worse, but might not be formally "apartheid". It is important politically and psychologically to treat regimes practising apartheid distinctly with the unique stigma associated.

[@marykayryan7891]

I agree with every word of this. I would just add that another unique aspect of the racism and prejudice against Jews is its longevity. I would say it is the longest standing prejudice and persecution in human history, lasting well over 2000 years. (Remember, the Romans also persecuted Jews even before Christianity solidified it as a cornerstone of its belief system.. And then there'd be the slavery in Babylon and possibly Egypt.) There are other very long instances--the English against the Irish (500-1000 years); American Black people (400 years) and others I do not know. But against the Jews, the persecution has been relentless and brutal for the longest period of time. And still that does not cancel the suffering of the Palestinians in the modern Jewish state..

[@capriphonix8863]

That's part of the complexities in Israel. Many in Israel would claim that exactly because of this, Jews need a Jewish State to be able to defend themselves. This isn't simply colonialism; Jews, a lot of the times, really have no place else that would accept them.

[@babbisp1]

0:28 1:22 3:06

[@BooneTheArtist]

Indigenous folks

[@GrandmaCathy]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@jonathankammer9078]

Yanis, you are one of my heroes. Now that I’ve dispensed with the adoration, please hear my request that you consider global anti-blackness on par with anti-semitism. A good discussion could be had between you and Irami Osei-Frimpong on the subject of American anti-blackness in particular.... I’m a somewhat studied Jew, and I see you’re echoing our beloved Zizek’s 100% correct assessment of anti-antisemitism in relation to Israel. But have you considered the view of our late comrade Moishe Postone, who posited that anti-Semitic racism is always figuring the Jews as monolithically all-powerful, demonic world-controllers? This type of racism is so far from the anti-black and anti-POC racism; which figures Africans and Easterners as subhuman in most categories, as to make comparisons between anti-semitism and anti-blackness for the most part unhelpful. Postpone illuminates how anti-semitism functions through the ages to explain otherwise obscured events, processes and the effects of power systems, giving a simple and ignorant narrative to the products of complexity and ideology. I believe your and Zizek’s assessment that the Israeli state’s discriminatory Judeo-supremacist policies and reactionary militant Zionism broadly pose a threat to world Jewry equal to that of rabid anti-Semites that are once again gaining political power. Thank you for your work.

[@denisloukeris2523]

Eni oreos what a guy

[@christianefiorito6684]

The situation with native Americans is also quasi Apartheid.

[@EmpireRules]

Yanis -- I listened to your analysis quite attentively. In fact, repeating some sections for my better understanding. A lot of what you said is true. However, what I find disturbing is the following. In order to make a tiny point of two minutes, the current modus operandi of the entire world in FEAR of Israeli wrath, the person making a statement HAS TO GO THROUGH twenty minutes of stage-propping. That's is the world we live in and is Israel has designed and created. And now, the world before discussing ANYTHING against Israel's racist apartheid policies is compelled to proceed so gingerly that it undermines the very existence of the Palestinians who have been rendered displaced (over 6 million all over the worldl) disenfranchised, dispossessed and OFTEN demonized! Quite remarkable sinistar ploy on the part of Israel through massive media propaganda that equally renders billions of people silenced when it comes to criticizing Israeli apartheid. Dr. Norman Finkelstein calls this the Holocaust Industry. Have you read his book?

[@nomoreechochambers]

African Americans and native Americans suffered much then jews.

[@theaccount4841]

This conversation is an outright failure, from my perspective. You deny the comparison at the start and then continue to make it, for reasons we can only guess at, and which reflect poorly on the general tone and atmosphere of DIEM25. The loss of life through colonization in the Americas is more than WW1 and WW2 totals combined. White settlers were monetarily compensated for murdering natives (*all of them, on an industrial scale*). That process is now being repeated in Palestine (not to mention being continued in the US today), even if its tactics differ. There is nothing unique about whatever stamp collector mentality is being addressed (although I'm sure you can find other metaphors which do justice to the specific configurations of the holocaust, no doubt; the stamp collector metaphor is a particularly bad one though, with indigenous american faces routinely being a candidate for a literal postal stamp in the contemporary US). I think your disavowal of the hierarchy of suffering at the start betrays actually how much your argument really needs this hierarchy; I urge you (and I mean this as someone who obviously supports your work) to consider why this hierarchy persists in this conversation.

[@michelleconte2447]

I don't think Yanis need that hierarchy in making his argument as much as he feels compel to preamble his point. I suppose in order to avoid summary dismissal from the people he needs to get across to and convince. These people are obviously not you and I.

[@fieldlab4]

The hierarchy of genocides must be disavowed as Yanis points out, precisely because it places the importance and resolution of one above another. In the worst circumstances one can even be exploited to perpetrate another. It must be identified and stopped wherever it might happen. The common roots and effects of genocide must be evidenced wherever it occurs, be it colonialism, hatred, greed, etc. This does not mean they are equivocated but nevertheless equally opposed.

[@blackpope1185]

Anti-Zionism, is not Anti-Semitism.

[@arturodesimone7134]

Here the link to our big Diem debate on Israel Palestine! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZaQY52irpKbeqs

[@banjod5363]

Eternally persecuted for being innocent? How naive can you be.

[@BC-ze4tp]

Varoufakis said that "apartheid is to use architecture, town planning, educational policy, the army, the police, the universities, every vastige of power and state authrority in order to create bantustans, in which you put a population which you use as day labourers' you deny them allrights' you deny then anything except aquasi-autonomy the purpose of which is so that you don't have to deal with them".. Varoufakis mantioned many important things but he didn't mantion the most particular and important one, the reoson of that "so called" aparteid regime that is taking place in the occupied teritories, (and not in the official israel there palestinians have full rights as equal citizens) is caused by ongoing refusals of the palestinian leadership to copromise on a peace based on two states solutions. The palestiniens were offered many generous offers including east Jerusalem and more ( in 2001 - Camp David with Barak, 2009 with Ulmert and 1994 with Rabin) but they repeatetly choose terror as their only path in which make it impossible to Israel to leave the occupied territories (as Israel's forces actually did in Gaza and 2 years later Hamas took control over the area and started shooting rockets on Israeli civillians. ) I mean, israel did build sattlments in the palestine that created that so called aparteid, but the shrunk of the palestinians into enclaves that may Beselem said the speaker that they might remind bantustans is much diffrent. those so called bantustans were formed as a mid - move forward peace agreement in OSLO - accords in 1994. buy unsuprisengly the Palestinians refused to continue the nagosiations and choose terror as they killid handreds of Israelis. I think that is unjust to blame only Israel, even though Beselem said that is all Israel faults, and relying just on data of Beselem is suspected (Beselem is a very radical organisation that biases everything in order to make things suitable to its positions). Just in general? What else from antisemitisem and incorrect knowledge can bring people to think that Israel ,(the only moderate and liberal country in the middle east that allows full LGBTQ+ rights and uses as a full democracy by international rankings) is giulty in the conflict. the Palestinians are controlled and do support a terrorist leadership that funds terror and supports murdering gays ,chauvinism and mudering a woman if she is not enough modest by their standars. but NO, its only the jewish state fault without any mantioning of antisemitism.

[@samlazar1053]

In my country ....first The nazis came they had lost Then the Sovets came....They also had a list. And on that list were list of every Jewish person. Soviets were more gentile than the nazis tho

[@ivorstodolsky4433]

There are countless examples of peoples who have been accorded second, third or worse-class status in their home country, let alone another country. Take the caste system in India as only one crystal clear historical (and unfortunately, still contemporary) example. After the passing of the CAA and other laws, Indian law now also legally discriminates its Muslim population. Similar things could be said to apply to the Saharwi in West Saharan Morocco, Uyghurs in China, Kashmiris in India, etc., etc., etc. We might also point out that, before the rarely remembered 'Jewish Nakhbah' in which almost 1 million people fled Arab pogroms (more than Palestinian refugees of 1948) - the Jewish and Christian "dhimmi" status in Arab countries also was a systematic form of subjugation and oppression. (Incidentally, this is one reason why even staunchly left Jews like myself have no realistic reason not to be wary of a one-state solution in which there is an Arab majority: there are few, if any, examples of Islamic regimes in modern history which live up to modern standards for minority rights.) These are all 'de jure' forms of systematic discrimination, or 'apartheid' if you will. But think of the reality of the countless other harsh forms of 'de facto' racism/apartheid today! Take the state of Christian Copts (let alone the handful of Jews left) in Egypt today. Take non-South Afriicans in South Africa, Blacks in the USA or indeed, of Roma in Europe. Do we call it apartheid? The architecture, the bureaucracy, the culture and harm of the oppression is systematic. The same can be said of indigenous around the world, or even such peoples as Carelians in post-war Finland. Why single out Israel? That is the reason the accusation of anti-semitism can, with some considerable justification, be made against those using such terms (and similar forms of accusations) exclusively for Israel. Criticism of Israel is justified, absolutely! But singling it out as an exceptional, "unique" criminal state is not. Singling out one person or state amongst all the others for crimes that many others commit equally or worse (in the case of Uyghurs, East Timurians or West Saharans, etc.) is a form of racism, however unintentional. I would be glad to hear your response.

[@ivorstodolsky4433]

​ ​ @Scott Watrous Please read Marx on Marx.

[@felixrabe]

Ten minutes well used.

[@thkbvvrrh]

Are B'Tselem in danger? How? While they go to schools and lecture on their way? And all with funding from PLO funds?

[@bobomber]

I highly respect Varoufakis but I can't help feeling he contradicts himself in a strangely obvious way here by claiming that one form of racism is somehow superior or exceptionally worse than others. I agree with everything else he said though.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

He was drawing attention to the long duration and intensity of racism which has been directed at jews, and he directly flagged the apparent contradictions and offered a justification for the view he holds. So, no

[@fieldlab4]

A progressive and nuanced statement. Reference- "where you create 'bantustans' " where people are forcibly segregated by ethnicity as in apartheid South Africa. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan

[@DaveHawthorne-lk9mz]

I'm very disappointed. Europeans were enslaved by the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire and the Spanish Empire. This continued up to the 16th century. Where is our recognition for our suffering?

[@finneire1282]

Was there not apartheid in the US before and even after their civil war?

[@josephinestabel9647]

Yes.🌍

[@GrandmaCathy]

Don't you think the same thing could happen in the U.S.? Maybe not extending to other counties, but within the U.S.? I can, and it scares me.

[@MrGtraynor]

It has already happened in the US. The USA was built on genocide and slavery. It is now the biggest concentration camp nation in the world and the most efficient destroyer of human life on the planet through its endless wars (alone or through its proxies like Saudi Arabia and Israel - although the USA might well be seen as the proxy of the Zionist state).

[@blackfang3000]

What about anti-Hellenism emanating from certain J-words?

[@mr.t.1237]

What about Islamophobia? I don't see Jews being attacked, killed, struggling to get a job, having their women harassed in the street. I like Yanis but claiming that antisemitism is worse than normal racism/discrimination is completely ridiculous

[@Magneticitist]

Anti-Semitism has two large flaws. First, it should be "Anti-Jewish" in like 99% of the context it's ever used, lest a slander against a Jewish person suddenly also become anti-Muslim. Second, the circumference of ideas or activities which fall under the definition of the term are too wide ranging. Atheism is a powerful idea which has somewhat remained a respected stance in let's say America because people are free to believe what they choose. An atheist through some fashion or form may choose a stance of asserting the lack of belief in anything God-related, which by default would be in conflict with other religious assertions. How is it that an entire group of atheists who deny the validity of Christian divinity can get away with that belief when the entire religion itself is a Jewish creation? They need only word it differently by including that one particular group of people, and then it becomes open season for putting that label under any context, whether it be religious or cultural or ethnic.. bam, suddenly it's racist or bigoted. The more a system is manipulated to frame other people who have criticism as racist bigots, the easier it becomes for them to automatically be aligned as enemies.

[@seanbachet1215]

The reality is that if you were saying that on msm you will be called antisemite. I agree with your analysis but at this moment anybody speaking openly against Israel as a country and its policies will be names antisemite and be punished.

[@mozar937]

South African apartheid was on a racial basis. The separation between the Arabs in the West Bank and the Jews is on the basis of the common hostaliti

[@punchgod]

I am against the holocaust for the exact same reasons that I am against the Israeli treatment of Palestinians

[@perewihongi6457]

Jews vs zionists. Chinese people vs ccp. American people vs the left and right.

[@rodriguesalberto8481]

Why DIEM 25, FAILED TO ACHIEVE ITS STRATEGICS OBJECTIVES, AND WHAT SHALL BE DONE, TO FIX THE PROBLEMS. In this doc, I intent to present grave mistakes, that undermined the DIEM to achieve, its objectives. Until then, you shall consider; Instead DIEM 25, applied, the science and given principles, that could help it , to achieve its goals, it had ignored or violated them . For example , stimulus that the org, used to create, tended to trigger given mental short cut, that , produce an opposite effect, in target's brain. But that is not all, because in terms of strategy, the org leaders, commited also, major errors, that stoped the project, to growth fast in less than 7 months, after it was launched. Before, I can give more details about the issue, I will invite you to analysis two situations 1) In the first one, you shall admmit, that I Alberto Rodrigues, will announce, I intend to organise an event designed, to teach small companies how to partenership in their communities, so that they can increase sales , reduce costs and obtain high profit. Suppose that, I will organise the event in different European countries, with an organisation , that is not linked to politics. Did you see the beneficial picture? In such a conjunture, small Business owners, from all political spectrum, will be excited to take part in the event. In addition, they will be interested to become members of a community, so that they can learn all the necessary details, that will help them to increase sales. In addition, due to the project importance, it shall be financed, with priority by the European Union.That means, to obtain EU funds in different cities , regions and Nation, with the same project. 2) In the other example I, will organise the same event, under a political organisation collaboration Can you antecipated the kamikaze mistake and tough negative consequences that might come about? In such a conjunture, I will have zero chance, to obtain resources from the European Union. Furthermore, instead the event help me to build communities, I may obtain an opposite effect. How that may occur? The ones, who do not share the same political views, as the party involved in the project, shall generate a destructive feed back about the event, spread lies to scare people and stop them to partecipate in the respective event. Because of the above reffered inconveniences, and other barriers, that a new political org , may face, professionals in political marketing , and neuroscience, recommend, a precisly strategy that political organisations must adopt, several months before, they can announce their political plan For the DIEMS 25 case, the leaders supposed to create communities, as I am about to explain below. The good news, is that, during the procedure the org should generate dozens millions of euros through more than 7 different ways. One of them is related to the following facts. KZbin artificial intelligence programme, was created according to a precisly algorithm Subsequently, if you are able to adopt your strategy , according to how the AI programme , was programmed to work, after you publish a content, it will show it, immediately, for dozens millions of KZbin's active target. That means, in just few hours, an insight shall be reached by millions of viewers and start to generate in the same time revenues. Instead, if you ignore the principles that You Tube artificial intelligence tool was programmed to work, it will refuse to promote your contents. This is one of the reasons why DIEM insights does not generate neither enough viewers, nor interaction. Because, of that, the first strategy, to consider, while building a mouvment from the scratch, is to seduce the You Tube , artificial intelligence programme. Like that, you can build an influencial data base, with more than 70 millions members, before the org, shall announce, its political plan In another words, in the first step, several months before the DIEM 25 should start to act as a political organisation, it supposed to benefit from the KZbin artificial intelligence programme and obtain more than 70 millions You Tube, subscribers in less than 7 months. The good news, is that , during the procedure, as I already said, the organisation, should had obtained dozens millions euros as revenues at least from 7 differents modalities. In the next step, the DIEM 25 supposed to think like that In the world we are in, we can be shut down anytime. Therefore, we have to create an alternative to continue to generate dozens millions euro , and communicate efficient, with our 70 millions subscribers, even if big tech may shut us down. In such a purpose, the organization supposed to build power 5 communities , in different European Nations, and start to work and interact with them, in the real live. Doing so , the organisation should obtain a capacity to influence sales, and politics , even before people should know, that the communities would get involved in politics. As you can observe, the strategy I am underlining, recommend to build power 5 communities, with more than 70 millions active and influencial members, generate dozens millions of euros, before the organisations, shall declare its political plan. Any experienced political marketer or neuroscientist, know the following reality. Before, people's brain, shall detect political stimulus an organization need first to create communities, formed by dozens millions of people. During the procedure, stimulus must be created with the following purpose. 1) Activate, precisly mental short cut 2) Create a given brain biochemistry, that will determine the audience, to want more and more information about, given issues 3) Create a given perception of value, for certain advantages, that both the members and their loved ones shall benefit from the project. Like that, in a moment when , the organisation, will trigger the mental short cut "fear of losing", the members, will feel a desperate need, to take the respective action that the organisation will require. Advocate, fundraise, donate, vote and convince others to do so. Until then the rules are strict The organisation, have first to undertake what is required so that it can install given mental short cut, and creat a relative huge perception of value, for the benefits ,the members receive. Until the organisation, does not conclude that, it is not allowed to declare its political scope. If it does so, it will undermine its chance to succeed. This is why, the DIEM 25 did not achieve the above reffered objectives, in less than 7 months, and neither after 5 years. Due to the situation gravity, I will come back to present details about what the DIEM 25 , shall start to carry on, reverse the situation and achieve its strategics scopes