Yaw3 - Helicopter setup and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 gameplay

[@YawVR]

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[@regwatson2017]

The Cyclic is too high for the Cabri. Should be down lower with the handle just up above your knees. You also need to use your pedals a lot more when taking off and landing but great effort for a first try.

[@Mac_Daffy]

Seeing that landing rodeo and your smile afterwards brought me a lot of joy :)

[@samgarlick9585]

I fly helicopters all the time Zsolt on the Yaw2.5 with a gooseneck extension and the virpil collective and it works a treat the immersion in VR is amazing, I also fly fast jets around the Mach loop and after that you get a real work Out in the chair amazing work guys

[@toastie1488]

What happens to all the cables when the chair is turning 360. Eg. I have virpil pedals & throttle & vkb stick.

[@rochet289]

Great Job looking forward the the angled seat adapter, keep up the good work!!!

[@demdirtyboyz247]

This is exciting as I have much experience in VR flight with helicopters, I own the PFT Puma and I have tested various motion platforms. I've seen your company continue to move forward over the years and I am excited to see a collaboration with PFT for helicopter controls since that is always an issue. The cyclic mount is too high though, the Puma doesn't have much room for adjustment here so the mount matters. I hope to see this at Flight Sim Expo 2025.

[@agoodfriend45]

I agree the cyclic was way too high and will put fatigue on the hands and elbows in real you can actually rest your arm on your leg while holding the cyclic for comfort and easy inputs into the cyclic. If the up and down heave can be added to the Yaw 3 it will be a game-changer for helicopter pilots.

[@demdirtyboyz247]

​@@agoodfriend45 Or a seat riser or extension would easily fix this while also changing the foot pedal angle. Win win, which would technically adjust the center of gravity slightly adding pitch and roll. If this was tested and safe for motors this is a inexpensive and easy solution.

[@Kusanagi64]

Looking forward to mine! :D it’s such a freaking cool product!

[@Belthorian]

In MSFS, under controls options, there is a button for sensitivities. Click that and that will take you to where you can calibrate the flight controls to a more realistic feel.

[@Sergeant898]

I have a DIY collective, and it's interesting to see that the governor control in MSFS2020 is broken for your Puma collective as well (governor fails to manage throttle and engine power usage glitches)! I fly with the governor off because of that bug. Also, force feedback is really needed for the Cabri as the real helicopter actually has quite a heavy cyclic. Much harder to push it around than any simulator flight controls.

[@Rotor-Sims]

Excellent and great job! Happy to see this progressing.

[@Momo-fz5qe]

Bonjour, j'adore très beau materiel merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo.

[@demdirtyboyz247]

Need to get someone with heli skills (no offence) in that thing to really showcase its proper control and movement associated with it.

[@steeltribe3967]

Really enjoying your videos, keep it up. Mine arrived at home but I am away and can't wait to get back and set it up. Would be great to get some details on the Buttkicker setup and some videos on the configuration software InfuseVR?

[@JoernR]

Those "glitches" (sudden jolts) could be caused by the controller-based motion compensation - if one controller gets obscured by the other controller or anything else.

[@KoelJ]

Question, can you configure the helicopter Yaw with aircraft controls too? You can change the settings and sensitivity for the controls in control settings, Click on the sensitivity for your cyclic, collective and pedals respectively on the top left, then move it and see what control registers, set sensitivity, at the very bottom responsiveness cant remember what it is called exactly but at the bottom to 40-60 , that will smooth the movement. Also make sure you set longitudinal trim and horizontal trim buttons on POV , and trim release, this way you can let go of cyclic when aircraft is trimmed should you need to. Helicopters like H-145 from Hype has autopliot where you can take all hands and feet of and fly the helicopter via beep trim on cyclic and collective. I am working on ways to afford this chair as this would be the ultimate simulation experience with my VR. Helicopters take time to master, but when you do airplanes almost seem boring in comparison 🙂

[@jimj2683]

When will the heave platform come? And when will you add continuous G-force simulation like the Gs-5 seat?

[@jimj2683]

Maybe for a future product one could have a type of force feedback exo-skeleton for the arms and hands. That way one could simulate all the controls virtually (including yokes and steering wheels).

[@JoernR]

How about also implementing a holodeck and a zero gravity zone?

[@bricaaron3978]

@@JoernR I mean you could cheap out, or you could implement a Matrix-style direct neural link.

[@CraigMansfield]

It looks fantastic. I built my own controls but there's no movement in the rig

[@JoernR]

Flying in VR is the only way of using a flight simulator - if you once experienced a VR flight, you'll just feel sorry for all that braggers with their multi-screen 2D setups. :) It really is like day and night, while flying in 2D is a total waste of lifetime. And Zsolt does not exaggerate if he says he's sweating and got his heart beating fast. VR really does that. Zsolt: If you found landing a helicopter in MSFS extremely difficult, you'll find it right impossible in DCS. And if you manage to get airplanes off the ground in MSFS easily, try a warbird (from WW II) in DCS - and become a master of crashes and swearwords. :D About Yaw: Heave platform, STURDY supports for flightsticks/wheels and pedals, and a realistic price (like the price before you more than doubled the amount over night) and I might become a buyer.

[@bricaaron3978]

Have you tried racing sims in VR?

[@potatoracer6137]

Perfect for if you game in VR and play flight sim games.

[@ghoste7546]

I want to know When will the controller base motion compensation solution be available? And what is the simulator based motion compensation solution that you are referring? By sensors that built-in the simulator? Really Need a deep dive video on Motion Compensation walkthrough as this is the critical factor to when Yaw2/3 can enter the mass market. I believe not everyone can be a tech geek that can manage complicated start up sequence each time before a gameplay session.

[@GunPilot]

Spot on mate......presently it is still requiring a level of expertise in tech that the general Joe Blow does not, and should not, have. It needs to be plug and play to be really ready for the consumer market

[@YawVR]

We are finishing our "One click" VR gaming solution, where, you should start our Infuse VR software and the game you want to play with and basically you shouldn't do anything else. We are planning to post a video about that next week

[@Belthorian]

Are the controls force feedback? It would be sort of strange to go all in on a motion rig, without force feedback.

[@JoernR]

No force feedback.

[@FlightmikeVideos]

MS flight sim doesn’t support force feedback yet

[@LuisimiTV]

Is this still 3dof? Looking for 6dof... but not a bulky form.. like other companies.. small footprint like this is nice..but need 6dof.

[@eludh]

Zsolt its amazing wowww ❤❤❤❤❤

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

I know you’ll hate this question after the stress of yaw 2/3, but you haven’t talked about the heave platform in awhile. How’s development, will there be kickstarter?

[@YawVR]

Heave platform is coming, but there is no release date yet. We would like to introduce the first prototype still this year

[@Hakeem597]

Is this better for racing or flying? I’ve noticed lately that there are only flying simulations for yaw.

[@YawVR]

Racing video coming soon

[@luisgomes4220]

What is the brand of the cyclic and collective?

[@YawVR]

It is Puma X (pro-flight-trainer.com/product/puma-x-5th-generation/)

[@demdirtyboyz247]

How would you be able to have more usb connectors to avoid cable mangement being an issue again? It looks like onlu two usb ports? Also, same topic, I see theres a power outlet, i guess this could support a powered usb, but what if you need more power, for instance, butt kickers, transfucers, haptic seat pads, powered steering wheels. Is there room for expansion or the design is for simeple setips and once you surpase two usbs and one power plug then you have to go back to cable managment? Im thinking I'd need usb for mouse and keyboard, hotas, butt kicker and seat haptic pad at the minimum.

[@YawVR]

we have 4 USB connectors by deafault and one 110V/220V socket with about 500W power (or more, depending on the motors actual energy consumption). And you can connect additional USB hubs and power distribution sockets to make more if it is necessary

[@demdirtyboyz247]

@@YawVR So a small power strip should be doable with a few added usbs without effecting latency? This is extremely intriguing to me. Is there an emergency off switch?

[@OlivierTrading]

Very Nice but the cyclic is to high 😎

[@dotnetdevni]

Does the eye tracking re orient the screen when ur on the motion platform?

[@YawVR]

no, it is controller based motion compensation

[@helicopterovirtual-msfs6254]

Fantástic.

[@CheapCharlieMiner]

awesome !

[@gabeeszhun]

Hali! Itt készül Tatabányán, vagy csak forgalmazzák?

[@YawVR]

szia, igen itt gyártjuk :)

[@gabeeszhun]

Aztaaa.. 👏​ Van lehetőség kipróbálni ezt a setupot? @@YawVR

[@justaguydoinstuff]

Really like your videos, but what happened to Peter? :)

[@JoernR]

Hair grew too long for him to see the VR headset's screen.

[@justaguydoinstuff]

@@JoernR Haha, ya he had some real Sammy Hagar vibes goin there...he seemed like a good dude.

[@YawVR]

He is working at an other company now, but we are still friends and maybe one time He will join us again

[@obexmike]

What GPU are you using for this test? And what's the minimum you suggest to use with Yaw3 and VR?

[@JoernR]

For flight simulators like MSFS or DCS and VR, even a 4090 is not sufficient.

[@GunPilot]

@@JoernR Not true!....I run a 4080 with VR and a DOF Reality H3 plus all my MSFS2020 graphics options are set to ULTRA and I'm getting 60FPS and no stutters....and I have a friend who flies in my discord events that is running the same with a Nvidia 2 series GPU and it all works.......to say that a 4090 is not sufficienr is just plain wrong.

[@obexmike]

​@JoernR I've got a 3060Ti currently and that runs MSFS in VR absolutely fine... do you have a Yaw3 yet? I was wondering what Yaw users are running and what the minimum requirement is.

[@DavidGonzalezGarcia]

​@@JoernRNope... 3070 was fine at the beggining... them with a 3090 its superb... not necessary a 4090 for MSFS 2020.

[@YawVR]

I'm not sure, but I think we have 3060 or something like that, definitely starts with 3. I think we should upgrade our graphics card soon. But the simulator doesn't require any extra resources, so if your game runs smoothly in VR on your machine, it should run smoothly with the simulator

[@RedfoxQc]

Why do you allow your seat to rotate on itself (YAW) for NO REASON? Is there an option to turn this OFF?

[@YawVR]

it is in sync with the game, but you can limit or event turn it off

[@RedfoxQc]

@@YawVR - Fortunately we can disable it, because we notice that the synchronization with the game does not work. Thanks for this info.

[@richardmetellus2336]

can you guys try this with vtol vr

[@YawVR]

let us check it, but probably yes

[@FanDancer]

❤ wow!

[@Mre942]

in fs 24 there will be all helipads

[@MegaControltv]

Friends, I have written to you several times but no one answers... I am interested in buying one and also being a distributor in Chile. amigos les he escrito varias veces pero nadie contesta... me interesa comprar uno y ademas ser distribuidor en Chile

[@YawVR]

Hi, we have sent you an answer a few days ago, please check out your spam folder, maybe it went there. My colleague will try to resend you again.

[@mikeyoung9810]

It would be the best 4000 dollars I ever spent (if I had 4000 dollars to spend).

[@davidvincze835]

ej de kipróbálnám ezt a szettet...

[@YawVR]

Látogass meg minket Tatabányán :)

[@davidvincze835]

@@YawVR amint lesz egy laza szabadnapon meglátogatlak Titeket!

[@JaysJunk7]

4k for a spinning chair lol

[@dotnetdevni]

seems silly for just the one peddle to be honest that doesnt make sense

[@GGamerGGuy]

KEEP THE LIKES AT 169!

[@dotnetdevni]

Why say try lol ur basically buying it at 4 k lol

[@YawVR]

we will have showrooms in the US and EU hopefully soon. Meanwhile you guys are very welcome in Tatabanya for a test flight if you have a chance to visit us

[@LEAD-DISPENSER]

helicopters in MSFS are a joke for a game that calls itself a FLIGHT SIMULATOR you would think somebody would of tested the garbage before releasing any of them

[@YawVR]

if you just want to play and have fun, it's not so bad. But you're right that you might get a closer flying experience in Xplane 12