The Cancelled & Abandoned Disney Animations You’ll Never Get To See: 1930-1990

[@cecilyerker]

The concept art for Hiawatha is absolutely incredible and if the story was reworked and fleshed out more it could be really amazing

[@LimeyLassen]

Feels like a more intelligent story than Pocahontas, too

[@exerciserelax8719]

That looked epic! I really wish they had finished that one.

[@NoLongerNull]

It was really interesting

[@DavidVitrano]

All these films need to be brought to life now more than ever!

[@imyerpepper]

Revive.

[@kingofrapture]

I was extremely disappointed when I heard that the Gigantic movie got canceled, I was really looking forward to that one. Maybe instead of focusing on remakes, they should go back to working on that instead and go back to their roots of storytelling through animation.

[@BigEOT3]

Xenomorphin Power Ranger John Hugs-a-Lot really loved axing things and taking control.

[@kenny3001]

@@BigEOT3 not anymore now that hes fired

[@AntiFaGoat]

Only if they can milk a full-blown IP out of it.

[@patricknguyen7530]

Raya and the Last Dragon, Disney’s next animated film after Frozen 2, looks promising plus Moana and Zootopia weren’t that long ago

[@matveyxivan7159]

they should go back and make all of these shelved concepts into actual movies rather then remakeing old movies

[@badatgaming]

The "darker" Alice in Wonderland sparks SO MUCH vibes that remind me of American McGee's Alice game.

[@twiceornone8391]

Patrick Gilbert also Alice: The Madness Returns

[@RedAce0]

@@twiceornone8391 American McGee is the same exact creator for Madness Returns. It is a sequel to the first one. He is also currently working on a third one - Alice: Asylum. You can track their current progress on his Patreon and his KZbin channel.

[@Guernicaman]

Both are inspired by John Tenniel's illustrations & designs, that's why.

[@twiceornone8391]

Red Ace owww. Sorry

[@Everik-ct6pg]

The first one's art design is one of my favorites ever, I don't like the Bioshock infinite-like artstyle they went with the sequel.

[@BroadwayBrittany]

You just HAD to go and reawaken my grief over the cancellation of “Gigantic”... I cannot stress how excited I was for that movie; hearing it got cancelled felt like a blow to my heart. I really freaking hope they come back to it some day...

[@Dr170]

Nah, they gotta make Big Hero 6 4: The Quest for Peace first.

[@YesterworldEntertainment]

Sorry about that :)

[@BroadwayBrittany]

Yesterworld Entertainment It’s okay, I still love you, lol

[@dreamguardian8320]

I know how you feel and I too hope they bring it back someday. Soon hopefully, while we're still young.

[@romanramirez7847]

I agree! I was so excited for it!

[@lengthylexicons]

So sad about all of these, I know there are many reasons why projects get canceled but it still sucks.

[@kevinlashley2604]

I agree. It does sucks

[@dreamguardian8320]

I know.

[@exotic_butters2897]

How about instead of wasting their money on trashy remakes of already existing films, Disney digs through old scrapped projects and reimagines them. It would definitely be better than a shitty Snow White remake.

[@rachelknightonline]

Disney should focus on making these instead of live action remakes. Bring back the old hand drawn animation to stand out and get media talking, and a live action Hiawatha would be amazing

[@dreamguardian8320]

I too would love to see good old 2D animation again.

[@exerciserelax8719]

Yes, I think Hiawatha could work as a live action movie.

[@ladyterrapin1421]

@@exerciserelax8719 Idk, are there many Native American actors willing to do show business? Because last I checked they don't really like to share too much of their culture, which is completely okay, but I just can't see it.

[@Ikwileennieuwenaam_]

@Will N omg yes this is so creative!!!!!

[@SaraHouck461]

IKR? It's almost as if they think we're behaving like spoiled brats or something!

[@ed_ward6869]

I honestly think missing out on Hiawatha and Musicana are film tragedies. Plus Mistress Masham's Folly sounds like it would have been at least a fun movie.

[@Nightman221k]

If only Disney would give remakes a rest and do some of the various ideas on this list. Musicana seems like it might have even been better than Fantasia was, and I love Fantasia.

[@ed_ward6869]

@@Nightman221k i don't know if it would have been better than Fantasia, mainly due to how at the time it would have been made there probably would've been some severe budget cuts. But I think it definitely would have been better than Fantasia 2000.

[@axiomaticisak4350]

Agreed. Very disappointed.

[@dreamguardian8320]

I think it's Mistress Masham's Repose, and I too wish that movie worked out too. It would've had great 2D animation, and it would've been a great movie. Like Gulliver's Travels with a girl giant instead of a man giant.

[@Vimacone]

After reading Mistress Masham’s Repose, I believed that it was shelved because there are many plot and character similarities to Disney’s The Rescuers, which was then a recent release. Andreas Deja said that Milt Kahl feared they would reuse animation of the mice from Cinderella for the Lilliputian people.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I was disappointed when they cancelled Gigantic. It sounded so promising. Hiawatha and Musicana would have been great too.

[@dreamguardian8320]

So too would've Mistress Masham's Repose.

[@isaiahadams1996]

I’d love to see Hiawatha

[@PinkDappleleaf]

I wish they would un-shelve some of these instead of all these remakes. Some sound so interesting!

[@MERCHIODOS]

@Landon Hamilton I know, Hiwatha sounds so amazing. I would love Disney to reveive it and get the the directors of Moana to do the film.

[@JTPMalavet]

I sure hope they do!

[@GageTheMatewielGurl]

Dude same😑

[@SaraHouck461]

Man, they must think we're behaving like spoiled brats for wanting those abandoned projects mercifully resurrected, when in actuality, we're anything but!

[@biteme9486]

Hiawatha may be a bad idea, as both of the extreme sides of the culture wars may go ape

[@TRISTANonYT]

Rock a doodle was by Don Bluth, not Disney

[@mollydaly7208]

Pretty glaring error imo

[@wendymccoy1093]

Actually it's based on a book and they were going to adapt it. Don Bluth worked there at the time but he left and ended up making it himself. But yes it's not Disney.

[@cromulentcommodore5896]

Yesterworlds credibility is at an all time low.

[@AJ17_]

Wendy McCoy Same goes for The Secret of NIMH. Disney had the chance to make it, but they turned it down. When Don Bluth left Disney, he remembered the book and decided to make it himself.

[@sydneyhamilton2575]

My Oc For Rock A Doodle. Princess Morning Glory, The Good Witch Of The Sun And Moon (Chanticleer's Owner). She More Like Mother Nature And Glinda. In My Version, It's Morning Glory Who Turned The Boy In A Cat As A Disguise From The Owl (Who Hates Humans Along With The Sun); Couldn't Explain Why He Killed Her Father, The King. She Tells The Boy That She's Always With Him, Even In His Quest At The City (Think Of Her As A Guardian Angel). Even Add Some Scenes Of Chanticleer Having Flashbacks Of Seeing Morning Glory As A Chick Where She Tells Him That He's "Always One Of Us" And Always The Dawn Of A New Day To Fulfill His Duties For The King.Morning Glory I Also Describe Morning Glory As Rebellious Against The Owl Like Katniss Everdeen, Saying "The Whole If We Burn, You Burn With Us" In Front Of His Face. And With The Chanticleer's Crow, The Rising Sun, And Morning Glory's Power, They Mange To Shrink The Owl (Morning Glory: Now Everyone Will Know Who You Really Are, From A Big Bully, To A Wee Pipsqueak. In The Name Of My Father, You Are Hereby Stripped From Your Title As Duke Of Night, Never To Show Your Face In My Kingdom Again *Steps And Kicks The Small Owl, Leaving Hunch To Finish Him Off*). With The Evil Owl Gone, Morning Glory Changed The Boy Back Into A Human, Taking Him Back Home With His Family Free From The Owl's Custody. And When The Boy Met Chanticleer And Morning Glory Again, Morning Glory (Now Queen) Tells Him That His Bravery And Sacrifice Brought A Miracle To Both Their Worlds And Tells Him Everyone Is Waiting For Him To Celebrate.

[@theflamelord]

"Disney's Rock-a-Doodle" *Screams for 75 seconds at exactly 98 decibels*

[@thisismysea]

Haha, this is cracking me up and shall be my new way to react to everything.

[@davidcortina9898]

Only on C_m_d_ C_n_r_l

[@eliassmeke3991]

But it’s a Don Bluth movie 🍿 not a Disney movie 🍿!

[@c.w.r.794]

Disney should work on the projects the company shelved, rather than remaking their old properties

[@92JazzQueen]

Preach. Because this would be more creative.

[@castlefactory8682]

The animation department and live action department are two different things lol. Disney is a huge company. The next 4 animated movies after frozen 2, for both Walt Disney Animation and Pixar (Onward, Soul, Raya and the Lost Dragon, and an untitled Disney Movie) are all originals.

[@nine-vi7rw]

Can we stop with these uncreative comments, now. We get it??

[@dreamguardian8320]

I agree. They should try to bring back 2D animation, and then try to bring back Mistress Masham's Repose, Gremlins, Musicana, and Where The Wild Things Are. Gigantic can still be computer animated though.

[@mai.vancon]

Then put them on Disney+

[@carterm.488]

The gremlin characters also made it into Epic Mickey

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

Yes!! Maybe Disney should try to make the gremlin's movie again! Despite that they probably have to get the rights again

[@justanerdyhobbitgirl]

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that :)

[@_Anyastarr]

The games story is all about traveling to the wasteland of the forgotten toons mostly shelved by Disney including Oswald the Lucky Rabbit and Mickey Mouse face of the Mad Doctor who plans to become a toon by trying to steal the actual heart of Mickey a pretty dark and a beautiful game!

[@romanramirez7847]

My all time favorite game.

[@YesterworldEntertainment]

Hey all, I really hope you enjoy this exploration of Disney’s Cancelled & Abandoned Animations! To best avoid too many “You forgot about…” comments, I thought I’d quickly share the criteria I used to build this episode: 1. Had to be a FEATURE LENGTH animated film, as the list of shorts would require an entire series of its own. 2. Only films that will never see the light of day and that aren’t currently in the works for an alternate version, or were simply reworked into a similar film…one or two exceptions for reasons I discuss in the episode. 3. Also keep in mind, a few might appear in Part 2, as the latter half of their development is more relevant or tells the best story. 4. Has nothing to do with the criteria, but I mistakenly said that Rock-A-Doodle was a Disney film...I was going based off my personal belief that it was a Disney film having watched it many times growing up...I now realize I've been living a lie, as it wasn't...I'm going to attribute it to the Mandela effect.

[@donkeykong6426]

do you know why gigantic was cancelled because it makes me think it was date mischief

[@jardex2275]

A lot of the stuff for Louie the Bear looks like Bongo, from the 1947, Fun and Fancy Free. The dress and unicycle especially. Is there any connection there?

[@2ksnikt]

Thank you, that was bugging me. Also its pronounced "Shant-i-clare, with an SH sound.

[@Emplordxiii]

Yesterworld Entertainment easy to see that mistake on Chanticleer giving that it was aired on the Disney Channel a lot and it was animated by former Disney animators who worked on the Disney version before it got canned.

[@Psychol-Snooper]

You forgot to pin this. 😊

[@susie8799]

God I wish they did these instead of spending money on all these stupid “live action” remakes

[@theprocrastinator6813]

theyre dumb. they lost their roots of what made them iconic in the first place

[@kevib_d]

they do the remakes to renew their copyright

[@aihara_namika7585]

i think they r making those live actions bcos the people who watched the animation ver of those live action are grown ups now so it's like a 'grown ups' ver of their fav animation films when they were little. those people would most likely come to the cinema to watch their fav animation film become a live action film. i also think that Disney dont make those abandoned films bcos those films doesn't confirm that they'll receive many audiences like their hit movies did. but i'd still love to watch a good story with good animation even if its not a hit

[@robertobrenes4018]

They dont do it's for copyright issues, movies Will eventually be in the public domain (like Dumbo for example) AND there's nothing they can do about ir, they do remakes so they can have a Newell's product to sell.

[@MasterRend4n]

Liked the jungle book, because they still had some humor and it tried to change things up a little. Alladin and beauty and the beast where meh, ok. But then I watched lion king, that tried to hard to be realistic and was ruined from the start. Sad about gigantic, was looking forward for that.

[@king_big_pp]

Dude, that Hiawatha story sounds so awesome! I can only wish upon a star that they'll revisit the story and make a new movie. In this second Disney Animation Renaissance, I think it'd be a great addition to Frozen and Moana!

[@majamystic256]

instead of live action / photo realistic cgi remakes... They should bring back some of these old canceled ideas and make them into full movies, it would be so much better

[@sidball172]

Mystic System reusing the classic animation models from the ‘30s. That would be A W E S O M E

[@mattjindrak]

Yeah, old would be new again

[@dreamguardian8320]

I agree. Maybe not all of them, but at least some. Like Mistress Masham's Repose, Musicana, Gremlins, Where The Wild Things Are, and most definitely Gigantic.

[@brigidmadden5577]

That feeling when a canceled Disney film from the 40's could have had better representation for native Americans than Pocahontas as it was made to be about native Americans first and foremost and did not shoe horn in the white people and natives make peace narrative.

[@oneinathousand2156]

Disney’s representation in the 40’s was... weird. On one hand you’ve got Song of the South, on the other you’ve got Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros which had pretty good research on Brazil and Mexico and had proper voice actors.

[@brigidmadden5577]

The Purple Meanie it was probably going to be cringey by today’s standards but at least it would not have been as condescending and tone deaf as Pocahontas

[@chaseosborn9323]

Out of all of those cancelled movies, my favorite has to be Hiawatha. I would have preferred that over Pocahontas since Hiawatha is based on a character from a poem, while Pochontas is based on an actual person, which one of the movies criticisms was that it was historically inaccurate.

[@thesnesgeek]

Mine is the nightclub one. I wonder what the dirty joke was.

[@renatashp]

*People love to say that it would be better if it were different, but I know that you are all hypocrites, because I know that if it were different you would say the same shit*

[@johntabler349]

It's not too late to revisit Hiawatha a strong male lead in a Disney animated film is rare as fairy tales tend to focus on Princesses which is great but a strong masculine warrior protecting his people through peaceful means but willing to fight when necessary against impossible odds, I doubt Disney has the guts to make it but I think it would be a smash

[@mellowmallow4855]

It would have been better than Pocahontas. Unless this is another story about a real individual who's horrible life was prettied up for monetary gain.

[@Sunshine-zm1fx]

@Simple Weirdo I don't think it's about cultural appropriation. I think it's about showing the native Americans in a more respectful light, and with their input into the making of the film. And that's completely fair.

[@sillybeanthing]

@Simple Weirdo from what is shown here I think it's more serious and could have been more accurate and respectful to them instead of such. Maybe even be more accurate if they ask from the people of the related tribe/family line.

[@WTKB82]

Simple Weirdo it wouldn’t be cultural appropriation but like others have said, look at the way Disney treated an actual historical event with natives. They changed the entire narrative to a lie. Disney absolutely should tell stories with different cultures and peoples but they also have to show respect to those people’s and cultures. A Native American hero is great. People would love that.

[@Vidchemy]

Agree that more positive male leads are needed.

[@Andrew_Warden]

Rock-a-Doodle wasn't a Disney film, but made by Don Bluth. He was a Disney animator in the 70's, but had left to make his own animated films by the 80's.

[@Discosaturn]

Imagine all of those shelved films actually being made and we're able to see them all...especially Mistress Masham's Repose. It certainly did have the potential to be a success if it weren't for Michael Eisner.

[@SirBlackReeds]

It could have ended up like The Rescuers Down Under.

[@MERCHIODOS]

well Disney revived 'The Ice Queen' and renamed it to Frozen , so it unlikly for them not to revive cancelled films.

[@squallrowlandson8028]

Man do I wish Hiawatha wasn't axed, I know it would of cost it its G/U rating but it had the potential to be one of the deepest and strongest Disney movies of the 40s/50s of all time, if it did got made, but Disney could resurrect it back in glorious modern 3D animation in the 2020s though its highly unlikely.

[@squallrowlandson8028]

@Squirrel Probably not due to its strong and deep themes in modern times, but that all depends on the director and writers if they do it perfectly right.

[@JTPMalavet]

It was sure ahead of the decision to adapt the Hunchback of Notre Dame which was a more tragic tale!

[@mathieuleader8601]

I'm really impressed at how the darker variant of Disney's Alice in Wonderland artwork was successful at replicating Sir John Tenniel's illustrations for Alice in Wonderland

[@bhines0580]

Your cannel has the perfect balance of teaching and entertaining that so many channels lack. Keep it up!

[@SugarRush1990]

Have the book, The Disney That Never Was. Goes into more detail on all unfinished films and shorts including ones not shown in this video. I like this format though, it's easier to digest in my honest opinion. A lot of these thinking about it, would be great but one has to wonder about the execution on some of these. Hiawatha, for example, sounds really cool but given the time it would've been adapted it'd probably be in the same situation Song of the South is today (especially since Pocahontas has gotten some pushback in recent years). I can't wait for the second part and fingers crossed for the shorts version.

[@samaraisnt]

That's because Pocahantas is genuinely problematic and shittily handled, Hiawatha, in everything he said, is not the same. If it was a racist horrendous piece of work like Song of the South, no shit people would push back, *as racist films should* but if it were executed like this, it sounds like art. So tired of people assuming you can't do stories about non white people because it would "be seen as racist," like no. If you do it in a racist way, it will be seen as racist. By that same logic, Princess Frog shouldn't have been made, because it involves black people, and you know how people loved to push back against Song of the South, it's the same thing! See how ridiculous that sounds?

[@d.w.1805]

Hiawatha sounds like it respected the community it's representing, Pocahontas does not.

[@victorkong82]

Just a little nitpick from a Disney-trained animator: "animations" is not a word (at least not in the Disney lexicon). Animation is already plural, as it refers to a series of movements as a whole. The more correct usage would be "Animated Features" or "Animated Projects". I've gotten chides from Eric Goldberg in the past for using it the wrong way.

[@YesterworldEntertainment]

I appreciate your nitpick, as it's something I've always wondered about on a technical level. I tend to say "animated feature films", but try to shorten it when it comes to titles and whatnot.

[@victorkong82]

@@YesterworldEntertainment Gotcha. Love your videos anyhow!

[@matthewkrenzler1171]

Well upendedly, Aardman Animations exists because of this term.

[@joee1213]

Doubt it

[@lostcrusader8053]

The Alice in Wonderland nightmare cancelled makes me wonder if Junji Ito got the idea for his art style from those horrifying illustrations

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Alice came before Snow? The more you know

[@mustakimrozak8299]

@bigevilworldwide1 poor Mary Pickford she will be in a animation film but it was cancelled .

[@mothmanghost983]

Hiawatha sounds like it would have been a much better story then Pocahontas.

[@nine-vi7rw]

You can appreciate something without comparison it with something else, you know. 😩

[@mothmanghost983]

@@nine-vi7rw I'm not hating on Pocahontas. I admit it is not my favorite, but my comparison mostly comes from how both stories appear to present the controversial topic of Native American representation. While beautiful, Pocahontas is filled with issues (real life showed the girl was a preteen being taken away from her tribe by a 40 yr old dude). This other film shows a story centered on Native American life and stories. May not be perfect either, but it looks more promising.

[@KEVMAN7987]

A Native American legend sounds more appropriate than an anachronistic retelling of history.

[@nhmooytis7058]

MothmanGhost and still a better love story than Twilight....

[@Sigismund697]

1 1/2 hrs of a mayonese jar in the void would be better than Pocahontas

[@lilichong7941]

I feel like Hiawatha would not only have been a beautiful movie but remaking it could be the redemption of Disney with the Native community if they did it right

[@questionblock8949]

"We are cancelling Gigantic, we have plans for a shit-load of remakes"

[@emilyfuller1563]

That Alice in Wonderland art looks like straight up nightmare fuel. *shudders* So glad we didn't get that!

[@soinelle85]

You haven't played American McGee's Alice and the sequel Madness Returns then.

[@Mal-go5dl]

I honestly wish we could've seen it complete. It looks so interesting

[@GordonN661]

That should’ve been in the remake

[@v1de0gamr23]

"Gigantic, from the people who brought you Tangled, Frozen, and Brave." I will be happy when Disney's "single adjective movie title" fad runs its course 👍

[@dullahan_art]

Not only is it a bit obnoxious, but it really detaches from the original fairy tales and stories they came from. I don't immediately think of Rapunzel the fairy tale when Tangled is named, nor Frozen with The Snow Queen, the latter being the worst of the two in this regard. Because of them calling Brave, "Brave", they've not exactly spread awareness of the tale it was based off of, and will be seen as an original movie idea rather than an adaptation.

[@eliseerickson5994]

I read that they name the fairy tales this way to appeal to larger crowds. If you ask an 8-year-old boy whether he likes Frozen, his answer will probably be positive. But no way would he admit he likes a movie called the Ice Princess.

[@v1de0gamr23]

@@eliseerickson5994 personally, I think Disney just offered that as an excuse why The Princess and the Frog underperformed. When I was a kid, nobody thought it was weird that I liked Beauty and the Beast or The Little Mermaid.

[@eliseerickson5994]

@@v1de0gamr23 I hope not! I loved The Princess and The Frog! One of my favorite Disney movies. :(

[@anonygent]

Disney's not the only one. Most of Hollywood seems enamored of one word movie titles these days. Granted that one word is better than 11 (The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living And Became Mixed-up Zombies anyone?), one word titles aren't really very informative.

[@singlerideradventures6621]

You should do a video about the original version of Frozen, with Elsa evil and Let it Go written for her as a villain. Not sure if that's enough material for a video, or if that would be part of a "Classic movies that were almost drastically different"

[@TheDigitalApple]

Just imagine these animations coming to a reality I would haves loved it.

[@alx42013]

Rock-a-doddle!!! Was NOT Disney animation..... It was a Don Bluth Film.

[@TylerRakstis]

He was a former animator for Disney though.

[@2ksnikt]

Thank you, that was bugging me. And it's pronounced "Shant-i-clare", with a SH sound.

[@YesterworldEntertainment]

I've never heard of Rock a doddle, just a film called Rock-a-Doodle ;)

[@sydneyhamilton2575]

My Oc For Rock A Doodle. Princess Morning Glory, The Good Witch Of The Sun And Moon (Chanticleer's Owner). She More Like Mother Nature And Glinda. In My Version, It's Morning Glory Who Turned The Boy In A Cat As A Disguise From The Owl (Who Hates Humans Along With The Sun); Couldn't Explain Why He Killed Her Father, The King. She Tells The Boy That She's Always With Him, Even In His Quest At The City (Think Of Her As A Guardian Angel). Even Add Some Scenes Of Chanticleer Having Flashbacks Of Seeing Morning Glory As A Chick Where She Tells Him That He's "Always One Of Us" And Always The Dawn Of A New Day To Fulfill His Duties For The King.Morning Glory I Also Describe Morning Glory As Rebellious Against The Owl Like Katniss Everdeen, Saying "The Whole If We Burn, You Burn With Us" In Front Of His Face. And With The Chanticleer's Crow, The Rising Sun, And Morning Glory's Power, They Mange To Shrink The Owl (Morning Glory: Now Everyone Will Know Who You Really Are, From A Big Bully, To A Wee Pipsqueak. In The Name Of My Father, You Are Hereby Stripped From Your Title As Duke Of Night, Never To Show Your Face In My Kingdom Again *Steps And Kicks The Small Owl, Leaving Hunch To Finish Him Off*). With The Evil Owl Gone, Morning Glory Changed The Boy Back Into A Human, Taking Him Back Home With His Family Free From The Owl's Custody. And When The Boy Met Chanticleer And Morning Glory Again, Morning Glory (Now Queen) Tells Him That His Bravery And Sacrifice Brought A Miracle To Both Their Worlds And Tells Him Everyone Is Waiting For Him To Celebrate.

[@mustakimrozak8299]

@@YesterworldEntertainment rock a doddle was originally gonna be make by Disney but they cancelled it then it was made by Don bluth which is a flop .

[@microbusss]

about The Gremlins It was also cancelled cause of Warner Brothers did 2 gremlin cartoons in Falling Hare (1943) & Russian Rhapsody (1944)

[@BigTonyPhoenix]

I was gonna mention the one short with the 'Gremlins from the Kremlin', here I was thinking it was Disney that made it. Memory was jogged, it was WB!

[@mechajay3358]

_Hiawatha seem like an amazing film. Wish that gotten made, but instead we have Pocahontas._

[@nine-vi7rw]

Pocahontas was good too. Shut up.

[@carminecdinoproductions]

Alpha Jay 3.0 I wanna see that happen!

[@rugrat4287]

Alpha Jay 3.0 I definitely agree Pocahontas was meh

[@MERCHIODOS]

@@nine-vi7rw Disney's Pocahontas was bad because Disney butched Native American history for an audience that was 5 and below. The real Pocahontas was 11 years old while Disney made her 18 and in the Disney version she falls in love with John Smith, while the real Pocahontas never loved John Smith and he made love with Pocahontas without her consent. Also the sequel of Pocahontas was all made up.

[@marcmcdonnell6586]

When will Disney ever looking back to their archives for some interesting ideas for future films? Or getting back to hand drawn animation as we approach to 2020 marks the 100th anniversary of Hollywood golden age? BTW what was clip at 18:05 sure looks interesting.

[@louispacetime1576]

This channel is rapidly becoming a favourite of mine. Keep up the great work!!

[@nyanpirethecat2257]

Disney almost made an animated adaptation of "The Tale Of Peter Rabbit" by Beatrix Potter. During mid production of "Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs" in 1936. Walt Disney expressed interest on turning "The Tale Of Peter Rabbit" into an animated film in 1936. Beatrix Potter turned down the offer saying "There is a scheme to film Peter Rabbit. I am not very hopeful about the result."

[@SuperWolsey]

Good thing she didn't live to see Sony mangle her dear rabbit w/Corden voicing him

[@karenstrong6734]

Chloe I would rather see his version of the story than the CGI one by Sony.

[@ChrisSagem]

If you guys want to see a potential animated Disney adaptation of Peter Rabbit I suggest you go read my four chapter fanfic on how I believe Disney could adapt the Peter Rabbit story! As this whole story I’m working on is actually a compilation of four books written by Beatrix Potter that both star Peter Rabbit and Benjamin Bunny as this adaptation stays very faithful to the original source material although there will be a few changes from here and there but I think the biggest change I’ve made from the original source is that Peter and Benjamin instead of being cousins like in the original are instead just non related best friends which is a change I made to have their friendship feel more youthful and rebellious and also more importantly to avoid elements of incest that happens later on in the story when Benjamin grows up to marry and have children with Peter’s sister Flopsy! And so my adaptation compiled by four books would be a coming of age story about family tradition, dealing with the loss of a loved one, rebellious youth, power of friendship, childhood memories, having crushes, growing up, being a good father, remembering the good old times, and, reconnecting with your old best friends! You’ll know what I’m talking about if you read my story! I’ll leave you a link if you guys are curious to read it I think you guys are gonna love it! This is a story I wrote as a tribute Beatrix Potter but as tribute most importantly Walt Disney himself as he originally wanted to adapt this story but couldn’t do it at the time and so this whole animated Disney Peter Rabbit fanfic I made was a story I wrote specifically for Walt Disney himself as I believe that if he were to have made this adaptation this would be the kinda story I think he would have wanted to make!

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Warner Bros adapted the Peter Rabbit character for the Merrie Melodies in 1935.

[@nesmario123]

"Mickey as a servant of china" Well that explains Mulan 2020...

[@THEQueeferSutherland]

Wow, Hiawatha was actually a decent story for its time, I thought when the white man came in, it was about to turn into some white savior story, but nope, they kept it about the Native American people and didn't really show anything that was very culturally inoffensive, which is crazy for a time when there was so much cowboys (heroes) and indians (villains) nonsense that kids were growing up on.

[@bigchet]

lmao please give me one film about indians where whites came in and were viewed as the saviors instead of the villains

[@goldensun7702]

True. Cowboys were usually viewed/portrayed as the good guys and Indians as the bad guys, that's how I always saw it on the movies and cartoons as an Hispanic kid living in Latin America. Me, a kid not knowing much, always saw the indians as the bad guys.

[@THEQueeferSutherland]

@@bigchet Dances With Wolves.

[@bigchet]

@@THEQueeferSutherland Bitch, they literally fought the U.S. army in that entire movie. Dunbar wasn't even viewed as a savior, just because they eventually accepted him as one of their own

[@savagetv6460]

@@THEQueeferSutherland fuck off

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

If Gigantic was a success, we would've gotten a Spain pavilion. Your vids are intriguing, I like it

[@maxiapalucci2511]

Avery the Cuban-American Epcot is kool I’m excited for new d23 updates

[@carminecdinoproductions]

Avery the Cuban-American I wanna see Gigantic get revived again!

[@DragonStorm545]

@9:44 Uh Rock-A-Doodle was a Don Bluth movie not Disney. Granted Bluth’s style does sometimes given a Disney-Like feel to his movie, still Rock-A-Doodle was a Don Bluth movie at the end of Day

[@wendymccoy1093]

To be fair he worked at Disney for awhile but left and then made the movie. He probably worked on it there.

[@DragonStorm545]

​@@wendymccoy1093 That could have happened, Bluth was at Disney since Sleeping Beauty as an uncredited assistance animator. So he could be part of the original team at was working on Chanticleer movie before moving onto Sword and The Stone as he was once again an uncredited assistant on it.

[@sydneyhamilton2575]

My Oc For Rock A Doodle. Princess Morning Glory, The Good Witch Of The Sun And Moon (Chanticleer's Owner). She More Like Mother Nature And Glinda. In My Version, It's Morning Glory Who Turned The Boy In A Cat As A Disguise From The Owl (Who Hates Humans Along With The Sun); Couldn't Explain Why He Killed Her Father, The King. She Tells The Boy That She's Always With Him, Even In His Quest At The City (Think Of Her As A Guardian Angel). Even Add Some Scenes Of Chanticleer Having Flashbacks Of Seeing Morning Glory As A Chick Where She Tells Him That He's "Always One Of Us" And Always The Dawn Of A New Day To Fulfill His Duties For The King.Morning Glory I Also Describe Morning Glory As Rebellious Against The Owl Like Katniss Everdeen, Saying "The Whole If We Burn, You Burn With Us" In Front Of His Face. And With The Chanticleer's Crow, The Rising Sun, And Morning Glory's Power, They Mange To Shrink The Owl (Morning Glory: Now Everyone Will Know Who You Really Are, From A Big Bully, To A Wee Pipsqueak. In The Name Of My Father, You Are Hereby Stripped From Your Title As Duke Of Night, Never To Show Your Face In My Kingdom Again *Steps And Kicks The Small Owl, Leaving Hunch To Finish Him Off*). With The Evil Owl Gone, Morning Glory Changed The Boy Back Into A Human, Taking Him Back Home With His Family Free From The Owl's Custody. And When The Boy Met Chanticleer And Morning Glory Again, Morning Glory (Now Queen) Tells Him That His Bravery And Sacrifice Brought A Miracle To Both Their Worlds And Tells Him Everyone Is Waiting For Him To Celebrate.

[@johnstejskal6084]

@@sydneyhamilton2575Dude, I thought writing in ALL CAPS was creepy, but Your Inappropriate Capitalization is waaay weirder. Are you sending up the whole verbose title thing? If so, you're real thorough.

[@tostsoup]

The Gremlins were later used in the Nintendo Wii game Epic Mickey.

[@egpmh2891]

And again in the sequel

[@sydneyhamilton2575]

Indeed All Of Those Abandoned Concepts Get To Live In Wasteland

[@TheInkPitOx]

Thanks for the warning

[@michaelrandall4862]

This is quite the documentary you have here. More informative than any other on Disney works ever. A great deal of which is new to me and the orgin stories of books and features of unknown (to me) projects are priceless. Thank you for this. Now, it's time for part 2!

[@DrakusRecords]

That nightmare version of Alice looks so cool. Would love to see that adapted into a cartoon eventually.

[@glyph2011]

Absolutely fantastic video ! Can’t WAIT for part 2. I find the lost , unmade movies fascinating.

[@GageTheMatewielGurl]

Mistress Masham's Repose would have been really interesting, and an amazing Disney film. Just so much potential from character design, to the story.

[@erickmaverick3128]

I know

[@markdwalton]

I can't tell you how much I appreciate you doing this, and I CANNOT WAIT for part 2!! I hope you'll take the time to go into detail, because there's so much juicy stuff! One of the greatest things about working for Disney was one of the most frustrating things: seeing all kinds of versions of movies, or entire concepts, some not very good, some wonderful (IMHO) that the public would never know existed. So glad you're changing that! Rock on, brother.

[@mermanhellville]

God damn the concept art / storyboards for Alice look really cool, same with Hiawatha

[@3bellam]

This just made me sad. Why am I getting a million remakes and sequels but I never got any of these gems?

[@rugrat4287]

Bella C I feel Your pain

[@victorm152]

In the end it's the artists who truly suffer. The damn CEOs just have no vision

[@gandalflotr2898]

And that why Filipino should run Disney

[@cesarzpontu8886]

@@gandalflotr2898 Why?

[@gandalflotr2898]

@@cesarzpontu8886 those white CEO creativity expired

[@cesarzpontu8886]

@@gandalflotr2898 Wtf because beeing white has something in comon with beeing creative

[@gandalflotr2898]

@@cesarzpontu8886 1 word money

[@knockshinnoch1950]

An excellent informative and entertaining video. Great to have a further insight as to how Disney work. Interesting to see how many ideas are incorporated/reworked into alternative projects

[@davidfeltheim2501]

That Hiawatha Movie sounds absolutely amazing, especially for the prejudice of the time. Also Musicana, those concepts sound amazing! I wish Disney would make more Fantasia's with these concepts and more.

[@LimeyLassen]

That Fantasia sequel looks incredible.

[@vincentfranklin17]

Morgan"s Ghost led to Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold. Carl Barks, known as The Duck Man did the art. It led to a long career with The Duck Family.

[@Fnorgh]

Wait, was that the first Duck comic he did?

[@vincentfranklin17]

@@Fnorgh Yes, it waa

[@Ratelzwatel]

Carl Barks and Jack Hannah did the art-work for the comic.

[@kittycatwild9283]

This makes me depressed because it'll never happen. *If only Disney would stop making Live-Action remakes.*

[@LikaLaruku]

I would have adored the darker Alice, Morgan's Tales, & Hiawatha. I had NO idea Roald Dahl was that old. I thought his books were new in the 80s.

[@LordSumSums]

I really wanted to see Gigantic and I'm so pissed about this! Never gonna get over it.

[@bmhater1283]

Oh shit, is that Shantae on your pfp?

[@maddpoison13]

L

[@Rocketfoot7]

I love all the videos produced by Yesterworld, but this one was especially intriguing! I would have loved to have seen these productions that never were... especially Musicana and Hiawatha! Great video as always, packed with fascinating history! 😁

[@PsillyApeUSA]

You deserve 100 million subs. Great content

[@ferociousgumby]

DItto Hiawatha and Pocahontas. The first one was infinitely more imaginitive and artistically done.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

I have a theory about Gigantic. The same way Disney cancelled Pixar's Newt because it was too similar to Rio, I believe Gigantic was cancelled due to Dreamworks' Puss in Boots (wich includes several Jack-and-the-beanstalk plot points) and Warner bros' Jack The Giant Slayer (a retelling of the story with enphasis on action, adventure and comedy). Both were released in the 2010s.

[@Red-Wolf-Ben]

Holy moley, we could have had Disney animation on Where the Wild Things Are!? Now I really want to see that!

[@AndrewB..]

Yay new video! Hi Mark! 💗

[@joe88john]

I hate to be THAT commentor, but isn't Rock-A-Doodle a Don Bluth film, not a Disney film? Also I really wish a lot of these were released, they look like they would've been instant classics!

[@shawnmulligan2894]

Also, you should talk about Black Cauldron and all of its cut material sometime!!!

[@YesterworldEntertainment]

I actually did in a very early episode! One of the first videos on the channel.

[@hamishmacfleetwood5229]

@@YesterworldEntertainment fun facts 1 did you know that Alice’s dress color is actually white because of a stage production from 1886 the author ✍️ Lewis Carroll intended on that color. 2 in The Nursery Alice a shortened version of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland Alice’s dress color is yellow it was approved by the author. 3 on something called The Wonderland Quadrilles Alice’s dress color is red also approved by the author. 4 on something called The Wonderland Postage stamp case Alice’s dress color is also yellow. 5 in The Nursery Alice Alice has Ginger Blonde hair while in the Alice books Alice has Dirty Blonde hair. 6 originally the fairytale was called Alice’s Adventures Under Ground the pictures were done by the author himself in those Alice is depicted as a Dirty Blonde without the apron. 7 the picture that i picked for my profile pic is of Alice by John Tenniel the illustrator of the Alice books in a cartoon called Hoity Toity published on 1st February 1868. 8 on something called Alice in Blunderland also drawn by John Tenniel Alice is drawn as a teenager with elbow length hair like in the profile pic. 9 on Biscuit tins advertising the second book Through the Looking Glass and what Alice found there these were approved by the author on those Alice’s dress is royal blue. 10 on something called Alice in Bumbleland also done by John Tenniel he watercolered Alice’s dress blue. 11 for the published version of the book Lewis Carroll originally thought of the title as Alice’s Hour in Elf land. 12 also check out the video called Moviemakers in Wonderland.

[@BlueGuy98]

Hiawatha sounds really cool, but I feel like it would have worked better as a live action film (except maybe for the serpent sequence at the end)

[@ForceMaximus84]

You’d think that Disney would get some of these ideas out of mothballs being that they’ve been doing nothing but sequels and remakes, but they clearly just care about money these days. Sad.

[@ChannelThemePark]

Hey Mark, I love your channel and I love learning about so much Disney and universal history

[@nathanperez3993]

Chanticleer was such a fimilar name! I was like, "hell no this wasn't cancelled!" Then I realized I just watched Rock-a-Doodle as a kid.

[@alexmillar4878]

This is probably one of your most interesting video series you've ever done. I love looking into cancelled or unfinished projects and I'm definitely looking forward to part 2 as well as your Antz vs A Bug's Life video. For the next part though, will you also be covering some of the cancelled direct-to-video Disney films such as the cancelled sequels from Disney Toon Studios and Circle 7 Animation or will you be covering them in another episode?

[@melissacooper4482]

I can't believe that Mary Pickford almost got to play Alice!

[@gustavosequera8572]

What a great video, you did such a good job with the investigation. Can't wait for part 2 and the one about Bug's Life and Antz controversy!

[@josephrowe849]

The creepy original take on Alice might've inspired the Tim Burton remakes from 2010 and 2016.

[@YokiDokiPanic]

Even then it feels watered down compared to the artwork. No, what comes to my mind when I look at those drawings is the 1985 Disney film "Return to Oz".

[@RedAce0]

Or, you know...the book. There's that, too. The same thing that inspired American McGee to make his Alice games.

[@josephrowe849]

@@RedAce0 TBH, I've never heard of those games before.

[@YokiDokiPanic]

Red Ace, When it comes to adaptations, the original source material is usually used less than other adaptations. For Alice in Wonderland, most of what we immediately think of are those John Tenniel illustrations; a representation of the words, not the words themselves. Which then inspired the 1923 silent film, which inspired the 1933 film, and so on and so on. It's like a game of Chinese whispers, by the time we get to the Tim Burton adaptation, it's so far removed from the novel, it's nearly unrecognizable aside from a few designs and themes. The 'purest' adaptation I can think of is the Czech 1988 movie called 'Alice' by Jan Švankmajer. Which seems to be removed from other adaptations completely. Does it make for a better movie? I don't know, it's certainly the weirdest of them all. There is an English version, and definitely worth a watch if you're a fan of creepy Eastern European surrealism. (It's a very, *very* weird movie...)

[@RedAce0]

@@josephrowe849 they're good fun. Very 6th gen, 3D platformer game. So if you were a fan of those back in then (don't really know what your age is), you'll like those games.

[@PastelWorldDolls]

Can’t wait for part two! The wild things movie looked so nice, too bad they scrapped it.

[@michaeleisner4758]

Mistress Masham’s Repose?! Get that out of my sight

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

Reminds me of Secret World of Arietty. Anyone else?

[@syxepop]

Michael Eisner, Kevin Perjurer wants to know your location...

[@creekkid42]

thanks for this, looking forward to part two! I love hearing about production and how movies evolved

[@katherinegrice4415]

I would like to see part 2 The Abandoned Disney Animations You'll Never Get To See -1990-2017

[@enriqueramirez0615]

Hey Mark out of many videos from different production studios you've explored in the past years, but the one Studios you have not exploded is DreamWorks Animation with various 41 films project released and counting also been around for 25 years in it's history and also there are various abandoned/scrapped project that never see the light of day. So it's the perfect opportunity to do so.

[@hobihope2981]

I really wonder if Hiwatha had been done, would Pocahontas have ever been made?

[@streetballplayer100]

Thank you for creating this channel, you really make very good content that involves a lot of research! great job

[@alexiskuwata]

Fun fact: Gigantic was shelved, not cancelled. Shelved and cancelled don't mean the same thing.

[@yohannbiimu]

1:37 The left photo has film star Gary Cooper in the middle and Marion Davies (once-popular silent screen star and newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst's mistress) on the left. The right photo also has Gary Cooper speaking to the "Alice" model, with MGM star Joan Crawford on the right.

[@noizee05]

Oh man I'd love to watch Musicana, since Fantasia is one of my favorite movies!

[@ferociousgumby]

8:44 the fox is a dead ringer for a character in the Pogo comic strip by Walt Kelly. In fact, ALL the characters in this thing have a very strong Pogo flavor to them. It's ironic, because before he became a famous cartoonist, Kelly worked for Disney and was one of the animators on Dumbo. If you look carefully, you'll see Kelly touches in it.

[@mattboy2313]

I would have preferred: - Gremlins over Dumbo - Hiawatha over Alice in Wonderland - Don Quixote over possibly 101 Dalmations - Chanticleer over The Sword in the Stone - The Louis Prima version of The Rescuers - Musicana over The Black Cauldron - Mistress Masham's Repose over Oliver and Company

[@MovieFan1912]

9:44-9:52 Actually, that was Don Bluth trying and failing to recapture the magic of his past successes, which bankrupted his studio as a result.

[@Swiftest_sketches]

I wonder if Gigantic was cancelled because of the John Lasseter controversy?

[@Sinistraa]

Wow, what a great and well-researched video! Thanks for all the work you put in.

[@dimitriwarchief301]

When they cancelled gigantic i got mad and sad, it looked like it was gonna be great, NOPE, just more remakes

[@frylock97]

This is a really fascinating couple of videos! thanks for the work it must have took to complete these!

[@TimmyTheTinman]

Hiawatha sounds ten times better than Pocahauntus. Hell I would take all of these over the live-action remakes and Chicken Little.

[@webmonkees]

Bugs Bunny's Falling Hare (1943) involves an airplane gremlin. Also, Joe Dante revived the now-standard WB logo specifically for Gremlins. He's also open to doing a 3rd Gremlins movie if folks will just throw money at him.

[@LikaLaruku]

Given that Fantasia & Make Mine Music are two of my top Disney favorites, I really regret the loss of Musicana. As for Mistress Masham's Repose.... Kinda sounds a bit like Matilda.

[@ChrisOnStage2]

I'm guessing the reason Disney probably didn't go ahead with the Gremlins story is that Warner Bros already came out with a Bugs Bunny cartoon (1943 short called "Falling Hare") that had the same airplane-hooded gremlins!

[@jonnysac77]

I really wanna see that nightmarish first draft for Alice In Wonderland finished