Internet laugh at how shamelessly Tencent game Light of Motiram rips off Horizon

[@YongYea]

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[@404Errored]

I got one word for tencent: *SUBTLE* 😂

[@ZurigaSungama]

Thanks for the update, Kiryu-chan!

[@gio5854]

This are 3 rip offs in 1, Horizon, Monster Hunter and it looks like a bit of fortnite with the crafting maybe even a TD game too.

[@Rainos62]

this is unbelievably shameless. say what you want about palworld and how it looks similar to pokemon mon design wise the gameplay is vastly different to the point where its not even close to the same game. This this just looks like horizon with maybe monster hunter thrown in and the design is so blatently copied that it just makes it look like a cheap clone of horizon rather than something that feels different because the gameplay looks interesting if they alter the designs to make it look less horizon I would actually consider playing this but its so blatent where they are ripping off from that it just makes me not interested in playing it. I think light of motiram is too blatent of a copy. palworld when i looked at the gameplay i was like this is very different from pokemon they had really strong differentiating factors to at least feel like while it looks similar to pokemon but was very clearly not pokemon. light of motiram on the other hand is so blatant of a copy to a point where even the combat looks similar to horizon that it just isnt differentiated enough to be considered something interesting and i think maybe they should shift up the designs to look less like horizon because the horizon designs are unique but because they are so unique copying them just makes the game look like a cheap copy of a good game and i think that hurts a lot. the gameplay looks good but i think they need to do some character and monster design alterations to make it feel less horizon because palworld even when people were critical of the designs most of them were different enough where i was going ok so this looks different enough that i can tell its not a pokemon in a pokemon game but with light of motiram if you told me this was horizon i could believe you its that blatent.

[@crookim]

Didn't know Horizon called dibs on Mech style creatures.......😂

[@torakandwolf6786]

Let’s be real here, Chinese companies copying and ripping off other products is just par for the course now. 😂

[@Grav3staR]

If it weren't for that, we wouldn't have the best version of pokemon ever, aka Palworld

[@ThePelitin]

@@Grav3staR Palworld isn't by a Chinese company.

[@Neongamer117]

@@ThePelitin Pocketpair is a Japanese company

[@TOBI.SARU.]

Palworld is japanese. However, palworld is a literal parody of pokemon. And its better than the past 6 or so pokemon games that came out. ​@Grav3staR

[@Derah_OG]

[Insert "Always has been" meme here]

[@nekonomicon2983]

Tencent is a Chinese company. If i recall correctly, copyright laws work very differently there, so Tencent doesn't really care about how blatant the product can appear to others.

[@williamdrum9899]

i.e. there are no copyright laws there

[@Atomixi]

I thought I'd left a comment here for a second and went mad. Big ups 808

[@KristianKumpula]

China doesn't seem capable of producing anything that is not obviously stolen from other countries

[@jodieholmes8453]

We know. We just have to laugh at them

[@christopherdsuza7531]

If they do it better, power to them. The western version has become stale. In a growing western industry that continues to make it the "in" thing to hate on customers and be vocal in not providers customer what they actually want to see within these franchises. Let there be competition and let the free market decide who does it better. Perhaps it will serve as a reminder to these western companies. Hard to feel sorry for a multimillion dollar company that shuns and won't acknowledge customer feedback - especially with the way they have been carrying themselves in more recent years showing open disdain for the gaming community with some of these social media posts. It is funny though, reminds me of what palworld did. Not a fan of free to play chinese games though, if I must say because monetization is typically azz. If not for that, perhaps they would have sold me.

[@_VERESH]

Well, the bull boss moveset is an exact ripoff of the falling star-beast of Elden Ring and the gorilla boss moveset is a shameless ripoff of Godrick the Grafteds moveset

[@Planag7]

I noticed that too one of the backgrounds actually looks like a monster hunter arena from the PSP games

[@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters]

The shield combat animations (and the rolling, but that is a given), including the spear moveset, are also straight from Elden Ring

[@peger]

hey if you must steal, steal from the best xD

[@YesGrandma]

As soon as the bull stopped you in the air i remembered about falling star-beast,and the move set is a 1 to 1 with fallen star

[@starsuper64]

This is "The last hope" all over again. That LOU clone on the switch that was so shitty that Sony took the game down themselves, which is pretty rare when big 3 get involved

[@sws212]

Except the biggest developer in China, Tencent, is behind it. It's a ripoff but it's a big money ripoff that's also releasing on the PS5. It's closer to what Genshin Impact did with BOTW; copy the aesthetic and concept and add a bunch of gacha elements (Motiram is also releasing on mobile) to sell to their audience.

[@juanclaudio1103]

Sony will not allow this game to release on Playstation. This has lawsuit written all over it.

[@crookim]

@@juanclaudio1103 Sony is a small company compared to Tencent, what are you talking about?

[@Deliveredmean42]

Nah, this is just a Genshin Impact Scenario again, with a similar style of trailer too. The trailer looking a look like a game they are trying to copy in term of feel and atmosphere, but the actual game is a bit different from what was advertised... kind of like a mobile style tactic actually.

[@erreyakendo8290]

@@juanclaudio1103 In which court? China can have a different copyright laws, like Japan have their own, Russia too, etc...

[@daniels.6500]

>Tencent >Free-to-play + made for mobiles >Blatantly stealing animations from Elden Ring/MH >Yet another survival crafting game with a stamina dial Wow, so much better than Horizon.

[@dent.8100]

people shit on a mid game only to praise a literal chinese ripoff from tencent of all things they havent even seen more than 5% of yet. cant make this shit up

[@trevorwhite1568]

It's gonna be pissing with microtransactions and gather your full legal name and bank account details and sell that shit to the chinese government the moment you boot it up, but hey at least it's not Sony!

[@tyranus1111]

Main female character doesnt look like a man.

[@christopherdsuza7531]

Won't know until its out. But I am not a fan of free to play chinese games in general due to the egregiousness of the mtx in those game. Who know though, could be good even if its a copy.

[@Evan.280]

Chinese companies copying other brands? A tale is old as time and the central government just lets it happen

[@FellixNoAmatsu]

Copied Horizon and Ripped Animations and skeleton assets directly from Elden Ring and Monster Hunter World/Rise

[@rafaelcalmon2858]

From which characters? I still remember the fiasco of the people claiming Palworld ripped off Pokemon models, turning out the one who posted it was the one that ripped the models from Pokemon games and modified it to look closer to Palworld's.

[@ShuckleII]

I could see the roll being copypasted from Elden Ring

[@xVandyLandx]

Sounds like it'll be really fun then. I love Elden Ring and the first Horizon Zero Dawn, would love a combo between the two

[@FellixNoAmatsu]

@rafaelcalmon2858 There a bird companion shown later while fighting a Monkey machine and that bird is a direct skeletal copy of Aknosom from MHR with shared moveset. The sword and shield moveset is directly copied from Elden Ring same with shield counter and knockback recoils. The Hammer is a copy of Elden Rings collosol Weapon moveset. Also the Hammers charged atk is a direct copy of Monster Hunters World/Rises Greatsword charged finisher atk [True Charged Slash] There is likely even more but this is all I can remember from just the top of my head from the trailers.

[@FellixNoAmatsu]

​@rafaelcalmon2858 Also just noticed that the Flaming slash they do in the trailer is the animation of the second hit from the AoW for Flame Strike from Elden Ring as well but with enlarged visuals.

[@ZeoHidra]

Catching and customizing mecha animals actually sounds cool.

[@cherrygrabber7172]

Reminds me of Powerpuff Girls Mechanimals. Or Zords...I mean, Zoids.

[@Virtualblueart]

It's actually what I originally hoped they would do with forbidden west. It would have been so cool to have your personal personal pet watcher or even a light model stalker variant following and hunting with you. Maybe build and mod your own little robot from bits you harvest from other critters. Taming the big ones as town defences against a new big threat. What we got was ok, but could have been a lot more.

[@williammoutchia9292]

@@Virtualblueart Finally, a good comment. I like your ideas, they all sound pretty cool

[@SenmiMsS]

Looking at gameplay, it's Palworld in Horizon universe.

[@incocnito1274]

i wouldnt jugde this game anymore than I would judge palworld. Horizon has no exclusive rights in Sci-fi robot dino idea

[@glenntk8434]

I remember people mocking Genshin Impact for looking like Breath of the Wild and Palworld for looking like Pokemon when they were revealed.

[@Chaos-vm7cy]

Genshin Impact atleast were honest about their inspiration from BOTW and built on their own universe to the point where Genshin is it's own thing and it's only compared to BOTW on the surface level.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

But Genshin impect became it own thing while this is one of those trendy copy when seen with fortnite when alot companies where trying to copy it

[@ItsDonBro]

Bro people compared everything to breath of the wild back when it released. Like it was the first open world game ever. I actually hated that era.

[@lnsflare1]

@@Chaos-vm7cy Honestly, Genshin Impact's marketing played up their extremely superficial similarities to BotW (even the art styles don't look anything alike) in order to bait and switch people who wanted a BotW style game on a non-Switch/WiiU platform.

[@mittensfastpaw]

The difference is those two pulled inspiration from the sources and are very much their own thing once you get past that surface element. They didn't right out literally steal animations from multiple titles for their bosses.

[@DanielMether]

I wonder if they looked at Palworld and thought "dang if it's that easy then..."

[@S0ulGh0st]

It's already bad enough they're copying Horizon THAT much, but it's even worse they are doing yet another survival crafting game

[@magellan107]

oh i didnt know that. yeah nah instant pass

[@gm08351]

The game looks amazing and 10x better than horizon

[@lnsflare1]

To be fair, if there's one setting that makes sense for a Survival Crafting game, it's Horizon's.

[@lnsflare1]

@@gm08351 The gameplay looks a lot different than Horizon's, but not in a way that would particularly appeal to people who like Horizon's rather excellent and more technically focused combat system. Though if you also like Dark Souls, it might scratch that itch.

[@MalonzeProductionsGaming]

​@jackphillips6785 it's not a phone game. It's on steam

[@kjunith]

As a bald man once said: "A stupid dev imitates, a smart dev steals."

[@prastagus3]

Steve Jobs?

[@CallMeConCon]

0:26 somebody tell him 50% of china’s GDP is built of making cheap copies.

[@popatsot1]

Yup, and that's why every country uses them still to this day

[@prastagus3]

cheap doesn't mean bad anymore, especially for more recent Chinese product. But heh, not my business to live in the past still.

[@popatsot1]

@@prastagus3 Who said anything about bad? They upped the quality when people started buying Mexican products for about the same price. It's hard to fight over a billion people working for far cheaper than anyone here is willing to work for 🤣

[@prastagus3]

@@popatsot1 more competition = better and cheaper products, good for the consumer

[@popatsot1]

@prastagus3 Kinda? It's really hard to compete when your government tells you where to work with the threats and pays you next to nothing for it. I'm not about to stop buying the cheap things but I can at least see that it's not an even playing field 🙃

[@smgofdvld]

Normally I would be roasting the game but the truth is it actually looks somewhat decent copy or whatever.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

Sony can't sue Tencent for using the "robo-dino" concept, they can however litigate on _degrees of similarities._ This is how automakers patent and protect their vehicle designs.

[@kelticsage]

They didn't just use the concept. They ripped assets and animations from other games like horizon, elden ring, and monster hunter to build this stitched together Frankenstein game

[@prastagus3]

@@kelticsage Sony will have to prove about "ripped assets" first. Otherwise, they can make them look similar without ripping assets as well.

[@YesGrandma]

​@@prastagus3look at the attacks and abilitys of the bull robot,is a 1 to 1 copy of Fallen Star-beast from elden ring

[@prastagus3]

@@YesGrandma is that an animation IP? If not, ...... gamers can decide to play this or not. Sony have to decide if it has a IP case to sue or not.

[@sik3xploit]

Did everyone forget Tencent was from China? Absolute copy (at the cost of quality) is their MO.

[@disasterincarnate]

im sure the likes of Path of Exile 2 will only enhance the game with tencent behind it.

[@grantkeller4634]

It’s funny it’s happening to Sony. I’d rather give tencent money than Sony tbh.

[@prastagus3]

taking the chance to move the topic from Tencent to China? still living in the past?

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

Made in China - The Game

[@sik3xploit]

@@prastagus3 You do understand all business in China is under government authority? There is no such thing as private businesses there.

[@makikuma91]

Thank god it has stamina. For a second I thought it would do something different, phew.

[@ameliamohsin8430]

Tencent should copy Nintendo, I really wanna see that happen in the future.

[@Skyverb]

Godzilla quote: "Let them fight"

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

"Super Mario" clone done by Tencent next. Mario: 😳 "They ripped-off my franchise, you sons of a bitches!"

[@cyborgsariel7806]

Tencent is far FAR bigger than nintendo. Nintendo picks on people who cant afford to fight back; not a corpo entity so massive it could buy nintendo outright.

[@m.ccheddarbox874]

They saw palworld and thought, "Why not?"

[@AlolanRhyperior]

Huge creature collector fan here. Love Pokemon, Yokai Watch, Digimon etc....but Pal World might be one of my least favorites

[@roslolian11]

Palworld has a lot more new and innovative stuff than Pokemon so not sure what you are talking about. It's literally a different genre than Pokemon.

[@jokebapack2]

Indeed why not. I don't mind another HZD.

[@matheusmartins7546]

​@@AlolanRhyperior The very bootleg-y designs killed the game for me

[@matheusmartins7546]

@@roslolian11 clearly not talking about the gameplay/genre

[@amharbinger]

Releasing on PlayStation, man they're really going there

[@reaper-ce1jx]

As a horizon fan but also as a media consumer, this is great for us. It's sonys problem not ours. Sony should instead work twice as hard to repel off competitors and make their games that much better. They have become lazy recently and their creativity has become stale. This is similar to Nintendo getting a wake up call with palworlds success

[@bloodmoonangel8925]

I think we both know Sony isn't gonna do any of that

[@sushantsardeshpande]

While I agree with you to some degree, I would also say that such games being more popular is not as great for the consumer either - for fear of the market being filled with copy cats. Also, it requires much more effort to come up with a unique concept than to take an existing one and iterate upon it. Games that take concepts and add their own spin should be celebrated if they deliver quality but not the ones that copied things scale to scale. Most larger studios come up with new IPs and they have a chance to iterate significantly upon it on a sequel however they do run the risk of alienating their existing fanbase.

[@Ssecave]

As someone with morals. It's not great. It's stolen assets yet you're fine with it. Tells alout about the person I guess.

[@samhobbs9116]

@@Ssecave Make 10 games with the same assets and let the public choose which one it likes best. Games should be treated like convergent evolution not "I made that frame of a giraffe so it's mine". No no we don't care about that at all.

[@_Cetarial]

Sony’s problem? The game is releasing on PS5, they do not care.

[@randomrobin7773]

From what I've seen online, people are praising this game due to how bad Horizon has fallen.

[@Aves_1]

Horizon is a great game. Idk what people think it has fallen

[@jakecool9342]

​@@Aves_1 nah horizon games are boring asf

[@lucasLSD]

@@Aves_1 Same, it was always average

[@clover7155]

@@Aves_1 Horizon is a great game??? you are kidding right?

[@VanemanaAMVs]

​@@Aves_1they made a game about future cavemen stale and "modern".

[@Ginko139]

so does one party holding monopoly on a certain aspect on game industry and can sue whoever tried to do the same thing a good thing or not? I'm confused after the whole nintendo/palworld thing

[@charliegnu]

Oh look, Minesweeper has bombs in the game. I guess no other game ever can have bombs because they already did it. And Pong has paddles controlled by the player through a device. Goodbye gamepads 😢😂.

[@ShuckleII]

Good point. Honestly, I don't give a damn, I just find it pathetic. But if anyone is going to try to copy a genre and make it as good as possible then I'm rooting for them.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

No, they do not. You cannot copyright ideas- Only procedures and complete products. So tough luck.

[@Nammjahtan]

Mechanics are one thing but a game's entire visual style... or several games in this case as you have clear elements from not just Horizon but also Monster Hunter and Elden Ring. There's nothing there that benefits the consumer. Innovation does. Imagine if you had this game with it's own visual style and did not just straight steal animations from other games. That would have great potential as a game. Mechanics I don't think should be barred from devs making use of them as you have many instances of really amazing mechanics being made and then never being used in a game again.

[@prastagus3]

@@Nammjahtan as gamers, most of us only care if the game is fun or not. If not fun, then however innovative it is won't matter much. Same goes with clones that are trying to combine multiple game core aspects in to 1 game.

[@Trustypatch43]

Honestly, I don't care at all about it looking similar, All I care about is if the game is fun/good.

[@dj724]

When you ask 5 people if you can copy their homework

[@Rabbitlord108]

Yeah. To quote Bender from Futurama "AHAHAHAHA! Oh wait. You're serious. Let me laugh even harder. AHAHAHAHAHA!"

[@seananthony7494]

I don’t have a problem of when companies rip off other companies as long as their product is better. Like imagine a world without that and everything you had to buy when you go shopping had to be name brand…

[@Aves_1]

I loved horizon (mainly due to the environment, mechanics, and setting. I liked the story in 1 but 2 felt meh story-wise) so a survival game in something similar would actually interest me

[@williammoutchia9292]

That’s what I’m saying

[@michaelramon2411]

It's weird - it looks like money and effort have gone into animation, cinematics, the combat, but they obviously skimped on the concept art phase and couldn't be bothered to hire a SINGLE native English speaker to tell them that their trailer dialogue is wrong ("silence up"!?).

[@michaelmaguire4147]

Not to sidetrack from the fact that this is very much a rip-off; but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Zoids, if we are talking about "originating the concept of 'natural' mechanized animals."

[@michaelmaguire4147]

2:50 in fact, that looks like a god damned Ligar.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

Actually the more I see of this, the more I'm seeing the design language of Zoids (mixed with what I'd say is the robot design language that they came up with for the Bayverse Transformers.) Having had not really paid much attention to the Horizon stuff after the initial images, I wonder how much they took from Zoids designs now.

[@williammoutchia9292]

@@michaelmaguire4147 I learned more from your comments than I did in history class😂😂 the part about transformers was surprising ngl

[@tgb6823]

@@michaelmaguire4147 You'd never confuse Zoids or Transformers with Horizon, though.

[@TheConpletionist]

Foreground Infinite Night

[@lorraineg8605]

this is nothing new. it's like Genshin/BoTW, Pokemon/Palworld all over again. trying to file a lawsuit over this would just make you look bad, the same energy as the musicians who tried to copyright chords.

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

Plus there are virtually no copyright laws in china from what I can tell anyway, so you'd just limit them to their own billion player market if you won a western lawsuit.

[@prastagus3]

@@goodlookinouthomie1757 still have the mindset on China's IP law and enforcement from 20 years ago?

[@Ninja_Champagne]

I'm more concerned about Sony's obsession with Horizon and their blatantly ignoring of Bloodborne.

[@tgb6823]

So am I, but Horizon has sold like 10x as many copies as BB did, and both the studios that worked on the game are no longer associated with Sony, so it's not really surprising that they are.

[@zacziggarot]

They're literally coming out with a BB remake on the PS5 pro next year

[@_Cetarial]

@@zacziggarotSource: Trust me bro.

[@zacziggarot]

@@_Cetarial takes all of 4 seconds to Google and check my guy. You've just revealed that you're too stubborn or lazy to do 5 seconds of research

[@PierceArner]

The giant-robo-animal aesthetic of *_Horizon_* was already heavily reminiscent of *_Zoids_* from the '90s. That's not something that's really grounds for negatively going after the alpha of a game for - especially when they have mechanics about upgrading them and are using them in a unique and different way. Inspiration and copying are two totally different things. There's literally nothing wrong with inspiration, and suggesting that they're "getting away with inspiration" is a flat-out dishonest framing. Directly copying assets or movements and pastong them into a game IS a problem that should be addressed… but it's also not something that you can really judge alpha footage for - _because it's Alpha footage and by nature doesn't reflect the release version._ Literally Frankensteining together a game by ripping assets and only making minor changes is a bad practice and ought to be pursued because it's parasitically stealing the work of others for profit. Being inspired and making a game that's like a fusion of multiple different games is the opposite of a problem. Like with *_Pal World_* whether or not it's original enough to succeed is up to the playerbase who wants that and that the other games don't provide it. Being overly-sensitive to inspirations and wanting them to get shut down just means we'll get more situations like *_Shadow of War_* patenting the Nemesis System - where we'll NEVER get any other game exploring or evolving the ENORMOUS potential of that mechanic, despite how awesome it would have made future games to all be able to make their own versions of that.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

If Motiram devs lean heavily on the customization aspects, the survival elememts and polish the worldbuilding aspects, their game would be different enough from Horizon to shine on their own.

[@prastagus3]

it is also free to play so .....

[@KenBladehart]

Creatively bankrupt

[@Planag7]

The thing is when I looked into it it's kind of like a monster hunter game. It's kind of like what they did with genshin impact how they largely stole the premise of breath of the wild but was a completely different game

[@michaelmaguire4147]

Did people really think Breath of the wild was the first open world game or something?

[@lertik3898]

@@michaelmaguire4147 It's not about the gameplay itself for these specific examples, but for the artstyle and the presentation

[@dream6562]

​@@michaelmaguire4147nope, just something close enough to genshin's release thar was successful

[@quint2568]

@@lertik3898 ever play a tales game?????

[@loongzai8132]

Hey, if it works and is popular, there'll be more variety. People would ask if there's any other game like monster hunter, you maybe could point it to this one someday, who knows.

[@kirinfellwinter5237]

Less than a generation ago there were countless "off brand" versions of things, left to their own devices. Now that the primary products have become apathetic towards making the best versions of their own product, the "off brands" have out paced them, and the customers have moved to the now better "off brand" products. Thats why theyre only now throwing a tantrum, because theyve lost business to their competitors. This is what a capitalist market is supposed to do. Incentiveze the making of better peoducts for the best returns. Main line producers are like the guy leading a race, who then got comfy in theyre top spot, and think themselves victems when the guy still giving it his all to catch up passes them durring theyre premature celebration.

[@pushyrummble8625]

Get the concept wrong way to do it. You can't just copy the idea and concept of a game and do slight changes to it because of copyright reason. You can do what palworld did and have a concept of what the game will be and look at a gam like pokemon but do your own thing like they did of having free range with your pals and fighting with them or riding them through the battle. They didn't rip off pokemon they copied the idea of pokemon but made a better pokemon with their at the time limited resources.

[@thefatherinthecave943]

Capitalism is not about competition, what are you smoking? Can i have some? The end goal of capitalism is to have as much power and resources in as few private hands as possible, and to do that, the workers have to be exploited, and not properly rewarded for their labors. The tyranny of the money-holding minority

[@SilentiumCivis]

So? If it’s good then why would I complain? I’m here to play video games I don’t care about copying art / creature design

[@michaelmaguire4147]

I just had a weird horrible conspiracy theory thought. What with insiders claiming that the palworld lawsuit is a dry run for "going after AI" and all the corporate push about "copyrighting style" sparked by the "AI is stealing the way that I draw" arguments online. Would a company willingly put forth a "sacrificial lamb", knowing that it would be sued, in order to set precedent?

[@tgb6823]

Only if they could afford it...which Tencent can, so, yeah, fair point.

[@griffonwing]

Question. Can Steam, Epic Store, GOG, etc simply refuse to sell it on their platforms? If so, it might sell well overseas, but it would greatly diminish any US sales.

[@meikaishi]

Why would they? Do you think they should remove Palworld too?

[@griffonwing]

@meikaishi If there is a possibility of lawsuit, then perhaps. From my view, this game is a blatant ripoff several counts. Seems as though, as per Asmongold, the mech bull has identical attack animations from another game, I think Elden Ring. Palworld might also be considered, if the lawsuit goes through.

[@ilaygx]

It has already a steam page so no steam dosent care about Sony

[@tgb6823]

Yes, they can, especially in the case of a private company like Valve, but no, they likely won't. The only thing Playstation can do is threaten to remove the sale of all their games from Steam, which isn't as big a deal as you might think given PC sales tend to account for like 5% of their total game sales on average, but PS is definitely benefiting from the sales of Helldivers 2 on Steam, so they likely won't.

[@tgb6823]

@@meikaishi Why bring up Palworld? It was a completely different game that in no way plays like Pokemon. Even the monster battling mechanics are totally different. The only similarity is the catching system, but even that doesn't matter when it's in real time.

[@misusatriyo]

nah, they know exactly what they're doing. it's free marketing.

[@ozzcoremidmx8287]

Even Palworld felt different because they had guns and focused more on crafting and survival like Ark and not even mentioning when Genshin was compared to Zelda, nowadays they are way more different. But this one totally deserves a copyright strike xD 😂

[@WrottJackson]

I have to be honest, this game really does have me wanting to play it over Horizon.

[@lucasLSD]

Mocking? but the gameplay and boss fights look much better lol

[@Planag7]

We all know which sites you frequent

[@lnsflare1]

Ehhhh... The gameplay looks a lot more arcadey than Horizon's, which is fine if that's what you like, but Horizon's gameplay is excellent if you want a more technical focus on stealth, traps, hitting weak points, disarming enemies and using their weapons, and hijacking enemies to fight on your side.

[@christopherlewis6915]

The gameplay actually doesn't. It looks clunky

[@dirkstrickland4494]

Probably because they flatout stole animations from Elden Ring and Monster Hunter. Also the gameplay looks mid af.

[@maverickrx8]

This is Yong we're talking about. He's an openly hypocritical tool that throws his bias all over the place. He doesn't actually play very many games at all either. I'm not surprised he made such an ignorant video with a title like this, but I am disappointed even more. The visuals and gameplay look significantly better than Horizon.

[@robertlimbrick9580]

Tencent really is tanking rn

[@ameno4780]

It's actually interesting how many legal issues this game will face, because just from this trailer I spotted blatant copy-paste from Elden Ring, Horizon, Monster Hunter, Breath of the Wild. Like at this point they were just curious how many games is it physically possible to copy mechanically/aesthetically and get away with it.

[@MrDanlancelot]

all they had to do was make the main character blonde or something, just to avoid making it look like a100% rip-off. how do you not even bother to design your own main character?

[@lnsflare1]

@@MrDanlancelot I mean, the actual main character will probably be a custom character.

[@williammoutchia9292]

@@lnsflare1True, that’s definitely a possibility

[@ilaygx]

There is no main character in this game you can customize your own character

[@MrDanlancelot]

@@lnsflare1 then that makes the decision to make the "canon" main character used in the promotional art a redhead in tribal clothing even more baffling. like, Mass Effect let you customize your Commander Shepard, but Bioware didn't make the default John/Jane Shepard that they used in all the trailers look like Captain Picard or Janeway

[@MrDanlancelot]

@@ilaygx the player character appearance featured on all the promotional art and advertising is the face of the game (and is usually the default appearance in the character customizer). it's disingenuous to act like they aren't specifically using a custom character that looks just like Aloy to sell their game

[@SirSblop]

This is what we mean when we say A.I. "art" isn't art. Sure there are no original ideas on earth anymore, but we literally see where, if put into an AI art context, the images have been picked and squished together based on a loose prompt.

[@Eli-ts3ge]

Thousands of companies do this, they release products that are too similar or that have the essence of others, and nobody says anything, heck palword and genshin went through similar things, but wait, since this is a game Sony's game (Playstation) is much more important, and now it is a crime, honestly there is a lot of bias in favor of Sony, as if they were paid to criticize games

[@8ettieP46e]

nah I dont care, I liked Genshin and still do... and think base game was 100% BoW clone. This looks like Horizon, but I feel its more of a MH clone than Horizon. Just using a skin. Looks to be a survival game to boot which Horizon is not.

[@loongzai8132]

Yeah this feels really weird coming from this guy.

[@tgb6823]

People said plenty about Palworld. Where have you been?

[@Eli-ts3ge]

@@tgb6823 Yeah, that's what I mean, people said a lot about palword and genshin but it was just "oh yeah it looks like this game but with weapons lol" or "zelda but anime lol" stuff and People were chilling about it, even giving more fame or even defending the "copy" game more. , but now with this it's like "OMMG THEY COPING SONY!! U CANT DO THAT, YOU CAN'T HAVE A GAME SIMILAR TO MY MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY!!!" Its like since its a Sony Game its more important and "worse" that other cases

[@johnniewalker3134]

I see the complaints and this trailer and then i just look at amazon and the alll the ripped off designs of the same products priced slightly different all pretty much from China.

[@ethanwintersseveredhand]

Next level shovelware

[@vincenthernandez2242]

Those are literally the hammer attack animations from monster hunter

[@loongzai8132]

What no other game allows to side smash now? Just MH?

[@Nammjahtan]

@@loongzai8132 I'm not really a Monster Hunter fan and even I know that animation is a straight rip.

[@RinyuuSenpai]

Yeah this is absolutely 100% blatant, it's pretty sad. But who are we kidding? They are trying to pull a "Palworld" here. If they just throw all mega-popular game elements into the blender, throw good graphics on it, and sell it for like half the price of Horizon... This game probably will be another smash hit, just like Palworld. Honestly if things keep going like this, and if studios making rip-offs like this also stay away from DEI stuff, these rip games might become bigger than the originals. I believe this is what China, and really more Asian developers, are aiming for.

[@TheChild888]

Hard pass for me. China pretty much just grab any IP or copyrighted materials and make a spin of their own. So sad though...

[@judgedread9724]

I really hope one day the Chinese are able to shake off this culture of theft.

[@TheChild888]

@@judgedread9724 Here's hoping, but honestly they probably even steal other country's military know-how and design on things and call it their own. Am not gonna lie, but why on earth would Sony promote and keep this "Copycat" comes to release. This game is really doing a big disservice towards Guerrilla Games original IP which we all know is/as "Horizon" Zero Dawn/Forbidden West series.

[@erreyakendo8290]

@@judgedread9724 Maybe two or three decade in the future. Many country without a strong industry start by riping off other company to learn how is done and see if can replicate. China don't become Juggernaut by respecting worker's right and environment preservation, now it become a huge economic and starting to put a stop on this exploration. They just have the meta game on capitalism, the small difference is, maybe, they still care enough of well being of people. Not much, but enough to take down anyone who put all economic in risk.

[@matheusataide3368]

Tbh if this game does it better, i don't really care.

[@LifeWulf]

>survival game Why is it always the same with this drivel. Imagine if they actually tried to one-up Horizon instead of lazily copying its aesthetic in the most oversaturated genre

[@governorairsoft4150]

If a better game comes from it, then let the multimillion-dollar companies fight each other and let us enjoy it.

[@mightylink65]

Now we get to see if Sony is willing to risk hypocrisy by allowing Palworld onto their platform but not this.

[@tgb6823]

Palworld was a completely different game.

[@GrimAbstract]

Palworld was INSPIRED by Pokemon but it's clearly different. This one the other hand, is clearly a copy and paste and does not have it's own identity. They even stole animations lmao.

[@_Cetarial]

This game was confirmed to be releasing on PS5.

[@GADG3Tx87]

Sony apparently issued a statement that they're ok with it.

[@raistlarn]

Sony not just allowed Palworld. They are a partner with Pocketpair like Nintendo is with Gamefreak and Creatures Inc when it comes to Pokemon.

[@mal82]

So now all who copy kojima for pt is the same thing?. Its but hurt for original devs because copy is better 😅

[@awesomereviews1561]

The twist is that it will be LGBTQ free and with attractive characters. It’s rare this day 😂.

[@enderkatze6129]

This is probably gonna make Horizon get more Players

[@Orangemushroom554]

What lawsuit? You can't sue a concept.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

You can if you have a patent. Or if these "copyrighting style" anti-ai lawsuits manage to set precedent.

[@tokidensetsu]

Tell that to Nintendo....

[@SilentiumCivis]

@@tokidensetsu Nintendo is suing for mechanics, not art design.

[@lnsflare1]

@@Orangemushroom554 A case could possibly be made for copyright infringement if some of the designs are too close to Horizon's, which would have been a possibly valid avenue for Nintendo to go after PalWorld. Mechanically, it looks a lot different from Horizon, excepting things that have been present in games long before Horizon.

[@maverickrx8]

Yong isn't a lawyer and he really shop stop acting like one. It's also probably why he hasn't done any videos on the Palworld situation that developed yesterday and two days ago because his comment section would eat him alive for it. The only smart choice he made so far. He did it here because everybody hates Tencent and it's cool to hop on the Hatewagon for Tencent. Tencent is fucking garbage, but, if they can make an objectively good game out pre-existing concepts and it actually works, I'm willing to give it a try and if I like it, I guess I like 'a' Tencent game. In which case, they have my thumbs up for that specific game. They're still fucking garbage and their advertisement on the box art, dialogue and the music are 1-1 and sounding of AI. But, man. Everything else about this game actually looks good.

[@siriusxfm4328]

This literal just feels like palworld but everyone is on the otherside of the fence this time, though its a bit larger in scale for sure

[@eestiny9734]

Very strange coming from a community that celebrates PalWorld!

[@aeternusdoleo4531]

So they are doing a Palworld. So what is their 'but' in the "Pokemon, but with guns" idea here?

[@begobolehsjwjangan2359]

Horizon Zero Dawn BUT without DEI alphabet rainbow bullshit

[@Mista7P]

Yong looking like he hitting the gym strong 💪

[@MrHeylookitsme]

Nigga...WHERE?!😂

[@ElNebuler]

bro he's getting jacked, veins on the delts are starting to show

[@sinjin8576]

Tencent hedging their bets on how absolutely forgettable Horizon was

[@exxe2454]

Who cares if game is good.

[@bullbae02]

no single game holds the rights to any of the things you mentioned.... i dont think mixing up genre and inspiration is bad especially for a game..... theres no controversy here, let the lawyers figure out that.

[@Ssecave]

There is a difference between inspiration and copy then sell it. I can't just remade the Mona Lisa but add a hat to it then sell it for profit. That what's happening here. 90% of the art (visuals, effects, sound design, music, animations) are from horizon.

[@kevingame3198]

Oh,really Sony: you’re a cheap knock off Tencent: oh no, no no no no I’m the upgrade

[@prastagus3]

it also will release on PS5 .......

[@Kaileigh_Broko]

Didn't know it was called that, I kept calling it Not Horizon 😂

[@Martell_Dog]

Is it a shameless up Rip-off? Yes Does that gameplay combination still feels somewhat compelling? Yes Wonder what will be the graphic performance on PC, compared to Horizon

[@MRE-fc1vs]

They are about to get sooooo many cease and desist orders 😂

[@sterkriger2572]

They aren’t. Not only China doesn’t give a fuck about copyright, Tencent is worth 474 billion dollars so they can just throw money at the problem and it would go away

[@dsshocktrooper7523]

It's coming to Playstation...

[@tgb6823]

@@dsshocktrooper7523 To be fair, it's easy to say you're releasing on Playstation and even put up trailers for the game on PSN. After the whole Abandoned debacle, we now know Playstation doesn't really have much in the way of QA controls for trailers and such.

[@mrwho6163]

Does Tencent genuinely invest in creating news content rather than replicating from others?

[@RickyBobby576]

As a gamer, why would I care if it's a rip-off? If it's good, I'll play it. I played Horizon 1 and it felt like a Far-Cry rip-off, so I don't care.

[@GrimAbstract]

Far cry? Lmao please clarify on how its even remotely close to far cry besides being open world.

[@RickyBobby576]

@@GrimAbstract Climbing the tallnecks to unlock map locations. Hunting and gathering were basically the same. Outposts/Camps. I played Far-Cry 3 and Primal, It just felt the same.

[@GrimAbstract]

@@RickyBobby576 I don’t remember climbing any robotic animals in far cry? Or is it just the fact that you can climb? You can also do this in breath of the wild. Is breath of the wild a far cry clone too? You can hunt in most games, is horizon a clone of red dead redemption or even assassins creed? lol.

[@RickyBobby576]

@@GrimAbstractI didn't clarify the Tallnecks are basically Radio towers from Far-Cry.

[@GrimAbstract]

@@RickyBobby576 but again, you were upset you had to use scan to unlock the map? As I stated, breath of the wild did the same thing. How did you feel about that game?

[@LuongVC_Comments]

it only looks like Horizon, but under the hood, it is unique in its own rigth taking the popular elements of other popular games.

[@tgb6823]

But it doesn't look like a different game. That's the issue. Palworld was very obviously not a Pokemon game once you saw how it actually plays.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

I don't like having this conversation about mechanics, because people "copying the original mechanics of other games" is how we end up with new genres. Obviously, there needs to be some element of originality, as you said, but I think that is the job of art style/writing. Talking about things like "the glider" especially bug me; Breath of the wild didn't invent that mechanic either. If we applied that kind of logic to something like "double jump" or "dash", then we wouldn't have the Metroidvania genre. "monster-hunter" should be a genre; that's how we get innovation, but we gotta deal with the slop in order to give room for the good stuff.

[@masterofthelag8414]

Monster hunter already kinda is - the God Eater and Toukiden series are both monster hunter-alikes that are fun enough from what I played. And yeah - I don't care if it's a ripoff, I liked the original Horizon and more of that to me is just a plus, and I *love* monster hunter so combining two generes I really like plus some other fun looking stuff thrown in? I'm down! So long as they make it *fun* at any rate...

[@boyzvird]

Ngl if it's a mechanically solid game, decently prized with no scummy monetization, has attractive characters and most important of all is a fun game people will still buy it and play it.

[@sssspider]

It's a mobile game, and a *Chinese* mobile game at that, so probably the only one of those points you're going to get is the attractive characters.

[@dgreypiano5192]

When I saw this, I thought it was a new dlc or another horizon world character side story. But the more I watched the more I realized it was a copy.

[@veryconcernedjesus2584]

Skyline Cipher Daybreak

[@BluntsNBeatz]

Honestly apart from that promo image being so similarly framed (but it's somewhat of a trope tbh) it doesn't seem that egregious to me... in the past games have copied each other a lot harder and that has gotten entire franchises off the ground, especially when limited graphical differences were even possible. Interestingly we're sort of coming full circle from limited graphics making distinct aesthetics harder to modern photorealistic graphics making distinct aesthetics harder, whereas in the PS1-PS3 eras there were more engines and more tailored approaches were needed to overcome limitations. The worst part of this is obviously that it's by Tencent, which I think makes people judge this more harshly than they otherwise would. Everyone was all for Palworld basically being "Pokemon with guns" - THAT was egregious but everyone was on-board. Taking elements from other games is a good thing to me, the opposite of Nintendo trying to trademark mechanics.

[@M4lkavian]

they're actually praising it for making it look better

[@DeathClawDC]

exactly , games strive because of innovations and accessibility , patent trolling only hurts the industry and the consumer more.

[@Spamkromite]

I'll play it anyways. My tastes are not easily swayed by what others says. In the 2005~2015 there were tons of MMORPGs clones, and people just played what was more fun or up their alley. This new one looks like many games at the same time, but the aesthetics can't be copyrighted. Feels more like Zoids with the ability of creating your own mechas and mount them. Feels like a Monster Hunter with many other elements mashed together from Palworld and even Breath of the Wild (I'm not even mentioning Genshin Impact lol). I welcome this and can't wait for its release. (oh, and the characters are pretty and not engaged 100% in groping themselves)

[@williammoutchia9292]

Groping themselves? What??😭😭

[@roonkolos]

Interesting how most of the comments have let their hatred for a single game become so out of control that theyre admitting they're fine with plagiarism as long as its against things they dont like Doubt people would be this ecstatic if it was something like Elden Ring

[@finfrog3237]

I have no loyalty to IPs. I used to care, but the corpos that own them, changed them from something I looked forward to, to something I don't care about. I'd rather play a fun copy than the boring original.

[@roonkolos]

​@@finfrog3237its not about corporate loyalty. I agree with you but thats not what it's about in the end

[@ilaygx]

Of course I find it okay when a product is "stolen" I’m a consumer I don’t own the ip or work for Sony so why should I care when it gets copied ? If the game is good I will buy it. It was the same with Palworld its a really fun and good game. Much better then the last Pokémon games so millions of people bought and played it. They didn’t care it stole ideas and designs because it was fun.

[@DragonHeart613]

Hope you & your family had a great Thanksgiving Yong. People always poke fun at Riot Games for doing similar things as copying another game for their own projects but not even Riot Games has done it as bad as the folks behind this Horizon Knockoff. Tencent may be good at investing in game companies but clearly they are talentless & creatively-bankrupt when it comes to doing their own game development.

[@williammoutchia9292]

People only make fun of it when it’s a company that they don’t like. It’s insane

[@duncanw5644]

They saw Marvel Rivals and thought “Nah, I’d Win”

[@Sharpester-m4o]

Jujutsu Kaisen reference.

[@andrewshorts1198]

Here is in China. China doesn't have a concept of "stealing" it derives from Confusius ( if I spelt that right ), they view it more akin to "sharing". They don't think plaqurism equates to stealing or so forth.

[@sabrevanson4412]

i Laughed way too hard at the trailer for that game

[@metalhunter6861]

Light of Motiram looks realy interresting, and to me it looks more like ARC survival with an horizon skin.

[@thehunterjk2521]

Lost me at mobile

[@snakefriesia6808]

Horizon Forbidden Eastern Tencent Edition

[@jakethornton4856]

I havent seen anyone "Mock" this game. most everyone i have seen say they like this and don't care if it was "inspired" by other games. If anyone is mad about this it's Horizon fanboys

[@unseeninja83]

I don’t see the problem, it’s looks amazing and fun. Sounds like a good game. Don’t care for story but presentation is too tier

[@RayTheomo]

Ratatoing ahh video game 😂

[@kiratorasei6227]

Bro this is crazy. we got Horizon Hunter Impact before gta6. ☠️

[@ZirixStrarstrider]

To be honest, this one looks fun and cool. Forbidden West never gave me this kind of vibes of "Wooooow, cool!"

[@turtlemike5279]

Yong... Idk What are you on about... Horizon wasn't a good game, if a ripped off can do better let them have it. Say there's Monster hunter which was the goto for everyone, but a game like Wild Heart shows up with some aspect of monster hunter but with their own spin or take, that's fine, more variety. What You prefer Pokemon being the only pocket monster in the world?

[@ksenchy]

Hahah they didn't even try. That wallpaper 😂

[@MemoryDestiny]

Tbh, Horizon was a disappointment for me, I hope this one is gonna be a better attempt at the idea.

[@petratyraanderson]

Where the hell was the outrage about aesthetic for Palworld?

[@tgb6823]

Palworld is a completely different game from Pokemon though. And yes, everyone acknowledged the blatant copying of Pokemon's art style and we were all waiting for Nintendo to sue them, but they didn't. They went the patent route instead which is a far more evil method that can impact the entire industry. It's hard to root for the victim when they act like a bully in every aspect of their business.

[@petratyraanderson]

Oh don't get me wrong them going after Palworld for Patent issues is BS but it's hard to take the people complaining about the art direction of Light of Motiram seriously when the same people kept relatively silent when Palworld blatantly stole​ designs from Pokemon@@tgb6823

[@VitalVampyr]

"Cartoon monsters with special powers that humans can tame" is a rather broad aesthetic. Pokémon is the most famous but a lot of games and other media have similar themes. Pokémon wasn't even the first such game, Digital Devil Story released nearly 10 years before it. "Primitive humans surviving against large, dangerous mechanical animals with lots of lights and white painted panels" is much more unique to Horizon.