Devs Dissing Elden Ring Success Called Out By Ex Ubisoft Dev Who Criticizes Ubisoft Open World

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[@YongYea]

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[@maximilianiholyromanempero6085]

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[@asharkhan5627]

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[@bl00kman]

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[@fjdiaz100]

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[@purpleimperialist7373]

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[@Squiddlewheel]

The fact that the dev complaining about performance and stability worked on Marvel’s avengers… it really does speak for itself.

[@3Guys1Video]

LOL

[@livingcorpse5664]

Either they are jealous, lack self-awareness or both.

[@neonnwave1]

Also known as "AAAvengers: Earth's Mightiest Cash Grab" - lead by Captain Sellout.

[@cavsfightingroom3692]

Sure you clown

[@KermitOfWar]

Marvel's Guardian's Of The Galaxy was pretty awesone tho. Loved the game. I wish they'd had done Marvel's Avengers like the Spider-Man games. Open world, with the ability to play as all the Avengers from the movies, a few DLCs here & there, with none of that microtransaction bs.

[@NostalgiaNet8]

Ubisoft should be the last ones to criticise game design while most of their games are literally the same, now, with a different skin.

[@ricthiamevans8980]

I know right? They're games are so cut and paste.

[@KaiserDaChoom]

and their only unique game fenyx was forgotten so quick

[@KL53986]

I other words they are hypocrites, by that I mean they criticize something they are guilty off, by blaming someone else not doing it.

[@fiskburk2908]

Not to mention some games using old engines running like trash on high end pc's and the obsesion of some higher ups on making everything a live service

[@ricthiamevans8980]

@@KaiserDaChoom yep because players saw it and thought copy and paste before giving it a chance. I did at least.

[@OldVetNerdSage]

The fact that these devs criticized ER on a public platform and then when they themselves were criticized, they ran away and locked their Twitter accts because they couldn't handle the criticisms is gloriously ironic.

[@TheT3rr0rMask]

Exactly. If you're gonna throw insults be ready for what comes afterward. They're cowards, and given the games they've helped put out they're also hypocrites (not a single soul who worked on BF2042 has any right to criticize any other game)

[@shinkamui]

look i'm with you that their takes were awful and they were hypocrates. However, they said ''game is bad'' and they got ''kill youself''. It's not on the same order of magnitude lol.

[@MrWongWey]

@@shinkamui It’s the internet. If you take an attitude that shits on something the majority likes, part of that majority is going to shit on you increased toxicity. If they can’t handle that kind of hate then they need to hold their piece.

[@shinkamui]

@@MrWongWey i agree with you that they should have had the foresight. But at the point when the deed is done, what are they gonna do? I'm not gonna sit here and say they should take harassment just cause they had a bad take on a video game. They're totally justified for not wanting to deal with tens of thousands of harassing messages nonstop on their inbox best case scenario they reflect on it and improve their own games because of it, and move on

[@stevethebarbarian9876]

Yeah, there’s no doubt they were getting hundreds of vicious personal attacks, not to mention dozens of like actual death threats, and sure, it was “their fault” for posting shit hot takes on Twitter, but you can’t blame them for not wanting to sit there and absorb constant personal attacks by a bunch of strangers

[@MrPiptron]

AAA turned “open world” from being relatively rare and cool into an often dull and repetitive chore-filled thing that can make games actively worse 😒

[@J.B.1982]

It seems like they want the open world cool factor / marketing but don’t want to risk people having to figure things out or do the work to make it flow well so they essentially make a hybrid linear-open world game.

[@DropoutJerome]

@@J.B.1982 I think it needs to be a mix. Ubisoft makes open-world games that require little no no brain power, its mindless. From makes their side quests very vague and you have to beat your head up against a wall trying to find items, another npc, etc. once you're given little to no direction on how to continue. The main quest or flow of their games are very easy to follow though. Elden Ring needs a quest menu that lists all of the clues that you've found so far and a general direction or marker on the map to show the player the direction that you're supposed to head next like how the bonfires show you the guiding light. Like there are a reason why these quest tutorials for ER are accumulating views on YT. I can totally see why people think the quest design sucks, because I think it does too.

[@rb9882]

That and injecting social politics... Killed Dragon Age for me smh

[@J.B.1982]

@@DropoutJerome The right balance is always going to be subjective. That’s the beauty of having so many different games and *ideally* devs take a chance and bring something new to the table. So many games have the same feel to them now so we barely know what that looks like. From Software goes hard in the opposite direction and everyone freaks out. Lol. The good part is that we have a more defined border for game UX works.

[@Tasmanaut]

@@DropoutJerome the vague nature of the quests is part of the charm. It's an ordeal. If its too hard, look up a guide and you'll have your answer spoon fed to you. It's that simple

[@hashvendetta7226]

Ubisoft literally ruined openworld gaming. These clowns have lost their minds. Someone place a waypoint for them to a good opinion.

[@ralcogaming7674]

Do you want me to flash a message on screen for them too as well as have the character constantly say "hmmm remember that place on the map I should check it out"

[@Outlaw7263]

Sending them emails roasting them for not getting to that waypoint fast enough is also a viable option.

[@hbtm2951]

I will place an waypoint inside a volcano.

[@brandonjustus9954]

@@hbtm2951 Better make sure its a active volcano =p. Just to make sure.

[@shonthacreator6146]

Yeah they're literally the reason people think open world games are just collectibles and stuff like what ubisoft does

[@IshanKoch]

Ubisoft devs should stop dissing successful games on Twitter and instead make their games better

[@thunderomen2175]

Exactly

[@wchan39]

Hey, Ubisoft! You want people to praise your games instead? Then git gud at making them!

[@RSRtwothousand5]

it's so sad to see, we should celebrate and learn and take inspiration from games like Elden Ring, instead of getting defensive about your own stuff.

[@keonkla]

To bad most developers are as bad and terrible at there job as the company that they work under, despite what delusional gamers who simp for developers will tell ya. If somebody touches and mingles with shit they will also stink of that same shit.

[@sageoftruth]

@@wchan39 That made me grin so hard. Makes me wish this video was called "Gamers tell Ubisoft to Git Gud."

[@TotallyNotRedneckYall]

"No aspect of the game seems influenced by monetization." BOOM, that's it right there. Yong just said in one sentence what I've been struggling to communicate for a week.

[@tonybabs8688]

It’s sad to be excited about something that should be the norm.

[@TomGrabowskiYouTube]

The biggest feeling I got out of Elden Ring that no other game except for Skyrim gave me was "Play this game YOUR way" I never felt pushed to do something or go somewhere. The game was constantly telling me "Hey, I'm not gonna hold your hand. There's a lot of cool shit around here. Go find it" and I loved that. 10/10 for me

[@TheT3rr0rMask]

And that's why I haven't played a AAA game in the last few years. I hate the blandness, the checkboxes and map markers that feel like a mobile game-tactic to keep you playing. The empty world's, the inspiration to do chores for NPCs that are in no way charming..... I just wanna play a video games and instead I'd be doing chores in a digital world. Despite being "open world" games like Ubisoft's are extremely restrictive. Barriers, specific locked points of entry, no way to traverse in an organic way. What I've seen from ER is it gives you the world to play with your way with your resources and that's loveable!

[@FelipeASaito]

I'm gonna be honest, getting my ass kicked for the first 2 hours of gameplay to then learn how the game works has never felt so accomplishing. Hadn't played Souls-like games before, but now that I have, I finally understand the appeal

[@TheBlackSpartan103]

9/10 for me because I only see repetitive grinding boring.

[@TheBlackSpartan103]

@@TheT3rr0rMask I went to an area where you need to be a higher level to survive. No barriers are nice.

[@cal5750]

Ironically, Skyrim is most "hardcore" Elder Scrolls fans least favorite because of all the hand holding and how shallow it's RPG elements and quests are. Morrowind and Oblivion are a lot better imo.

[@rustymustard7798]

Ubisoft devs dissing Elden Ring is like your local KFC manager dissing Gordon Ramsay. Not even in the same league, they don't even breathe the same air lol.

[@yasbu5322]

So true

[@toobig7150]

Not even in the same solar system, Ubisoft could have a game by Jesus himself and they would still prefer to publish another generic AC. I will never forgive the french.

[@MisterBolticus]

lmaoooo

[@OhHayFrands]

@@toobig7150 every new AC game makes me realize why the Brits hate the French so much.

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

@@toobig7150 Miyazaki IS Jesus.

[@labenvenci1584]

Ubisoft : Elden Ring sucks, its ruining games. Fans : Your release record sucks. Ubisoft : And Breakpoint standard edition is on sale, for the low price of $15, get it today!

[@dongxx]

Apparently you didn't get the memo because Gorilla game also commented on Elder ring you bafoon

[@CMTechnica]

$30 for the standard edition? Guess that means I got my ultimate edition for $30 as a steal

[@282firenze]

nah...I'll wait for the ultimate edition to drop to $10 then I'll think about it. 😂

[@darkcastle85]

Lmao this is so true and i wouldn't even buy ubisoft games not even for a penny 😂

[@ricardohoang8452]

@@DUDULALALALALALA Yet Breakpoint won't sell any NFT for Ubisucks 😂

[@meetbythecreek]

Imagine how shocked all these devs had to have been when Elden Ring was receiving 10/10’s. Here’s to hoping this shakes up the landscape and we as gamers begin to demand more from our games again.

[@bbbbbbb51]

Honestly most gamers just don't care. There's a reason why games like CoD & Madden/Fifa sell like crazy year over year. I will honestly never understand the average gamer.

[@monarch2980]

@@bbbbbbb51 it’s sad I use to love call of duty but studios get lazy and it’s not fun anymore. People are just buying call of duty for the name

[@user-cx9gq2ud6t]

@@bbbbbbb51 CoD was the worst thing that happened to gaming.

[@benbarnes8273]

Problem is 10/10 stopped having any meaning years ago when every game with a big advertising budget and review copies of games for 10/10 regardless of how good the game was. Elden ring is a great game but real 10/10 games should be few and far between but call of duty and fifa get 10/10 from reviewers despite the lack of effort from the devs

[@danielletaylor9201]

@@benbarnes8273 where on earth have you seen 10/10 on any CoD or Fifa game?

[@mcdinglez898]

Elden Ring rejects modern gaming as a whole and for that it has wiped the floor with all others. Its a joy to witness. AAA devs take note. This is how you create a good video game

[@OrbitalDeathRay]

They won’t; they’ll piss their pants, spill their spaghetti on Twitter, and do nothing.

[@christianstamm94]

@@OrbitalDeathRay Is the spaghetti thing a reference or did you just make that up because that was funny.

[@OrbitalDeathRay]

@@christianstamm94 I wish lol it’s a 4chan thing. “Although usually referring to an Italian meal made of noodles with sauce, spaghetti can be used as a form of slang to mean an embarrassing act, general awkwardness or faux pas. If one commits such an act, it is called "dropping" spaghetti.”

[@critical-thinker666]

kek its most empty and dead open world in AAA game. drops to 30 fps and perma stuttering is just cherry on top.

[@varden506]

@@critical-thinker666 found the least perceptive Amongst the group xD if you can’t find the legion of things hidden in the over world that’s a problem with your executive function more than the games design lol

[@silentsnake08]

All i can say is, after a trove of unfinished/broken "live service" games, Its nice to have Elden Ring come out, smash the competition and butt hurt devs straight to the face!

[@maplemiyazaki]

amen

[@Daniel-jz9td]

It reminds me a bit when DOOM 2016 came out, a huge middle finger to all the modern shooters that handhold you to death, force you to take cover, carry at most two weapons, straight up brain dead AI and bullet sponges. It certainly didn't get as many salt as Elden Ring nowadays (as far as I know) but it surely rejected what the genre turned out to be after years of stagnation in formulaic and scripted games.

[@stupidragerantroastoftakes2981]

The salt is real.

[@shaolinhabibi]

All I can say is that you are clearly not playing on PC - in order to play the game like almost every game in the last 10 years, I need to go offline and have a ultrawide mode with fps unlock to enjoy the shitty graphics at at least decent framerate without black bars on my screen. Stutters, crashes, all of that on PC as well. These other devs have yet to make me play at 60 fps like a caveboy with stutters every minute even if the games are not as fun.

[@johnathanshakewellesquirei8615]

@@shaolinhabibi wahhhhhh wahhhhhhh wahhhhhhhh 😭😭😭

[@VoyagersRevenge]

I was convinced the game was phenomenal after my first 20 hours of gameplay, but then a photo mode mod was released on PC, and now that I’m able to see the details for every enemy, and location design, it’s astonishing; FromSoftware has poured their soul into this game

[@mr0o]

I see what you did there

[@cyanprince00]

Im hoping to hop into Elden Ring at some point this yr lol (i saw u have some gameplay edits on it!). Sekiro was pretty amazing too, so. But man are there some great/decent games out right now! Sifu and Dying Light 2 i should finish - then Horizon: Forbidden west/Gran Turismo 7..Sifu/DL2 so far have such satisfying combat/mechanics; these games are great choices for your content, no doubt!

[@dcard228]

They always do. Well except Dark Souls 2

[@byron5299]

You can use your telescope to zoom in and take screenshots without your character in it. Just make sure no enemies are around lol. But it works great if your on console.

[@RedFlameGamer]

I'd go so far as to wager it's Miyazaki's Magnum Opus. I don't know if he or anyone at From sees it like that, but it definately feels like they've created something special here.

[@BlackChamber007]

An Ubisoft dev criticizing another developer's open world game is like hanging a chandelier in an outhouse.

[@Hatsworthful]

It frankly still baffles me how ANYONE would just think "yeah im going to openly talk shit and whine about this other game because its doing better than ours" without considering how that will attract spite to their own team's work as a whole. Honestly if i worked there i'd be very tempted to quit my job by slapping them on the back of the head.

[@brianbestmusic]

You remember how The Legend of Zelda from the 80s had absolutely zero hand holding? You explored, hoping you were going the right direction. You threw bombs at walls hoping it would open a hidden path with no hints at all. Fires on bushes to open hidden paths, no hints whatsoever. There was no babying - it was straight up exploring. Those were the good 'ol days. Elden Ring takes me back. Getting lost and exploring the world is extremely beautiful to me, and it is a love letter to video gamers who appreciate the older style of gaming with the most gorgeous world ever experienced.

[@justsomeguy2142]

That was my thing too, but it definitely was a different spin with the combat system of the game. Getting used to the combat and getting clapped by enemies that can move quicker and swing and attack almost indefinitely does not equate to a good time 😂 but other than that i definitely agree

[@brianbestmusic]

AND FURTHERMORE. Remember games back in the 80s that was all exploration and no hints, you sometimes had to refer to strategy guides or Nintendo Power magazine to get some hints on what to do? That's Elden Ring and the KZbin community. It's a great time to be alive.... A throwback to the original feelings of no hand holding, so I'm popping open a strategy guide or a KZbin video for hints and tricks.

[@justsomeguy2142]

@@brianbestmusic Preach to that my friend, modern gaming is all about handholding and microtransactions…..players nowdays cant even make a basic decision even in single player games without needing others or content creators to make that decision for them. First thing thousands of people did upon loading up the game is how to find certain items or whats the best weapon and armors to use. But as a 90’s this is definitely like eating grandmas cookie from back in the days 👍🏽

[@samanthaprzybylski5526]

@@justsomeguy2142 you've unlocked a core memory in me and now I'm setting up my Wii (no GameCube anymore ;n;) to play some legend of Zelda thank you

[@joeyzapata6786]

Except, I don't remember dying every 5 to 10 minutes in Zelda LOL.

[@0taku912]

Ubisoft: "nooooo you can't just make a game without p2w microtransactions, tedious grind, and nfts!" FromSoft: "haha no maidens?"

[@read.me.or.lv.m3]

No maidens indeed

[@AdaWongMistress]

@@read.me.or.lv.m3 still no head, nead a lover. Try too seek hole

[@certifiedintellectualjames5053]

No Maidens? 😢

[@SuperVoidBoyz]

Ubisoft couldn't even nail Far cry 6 and Valhalla so they should be the last to talk shit about Elden Ring.

[@ionfollowhoes5860]

@Bar Son you only grind if bosses are too hard for you

[@christianlewis6789]

I swear, the longer we let game developers go without getting it through their thick skulls (cough cough, Ubisoft) that just because something gets a lot of praise doesn't mean it's without its flaws, the more the games industry far and wide is going to *die.*

[@justsomeguy2142]

Gaming has died long ago, just a bunch of mindless consumers who were raised thinking that a game needs microtransactions, skins, and empty dlcs for demos is the way to game…..screw actual content and gameplay all you need is a small loop and good graphics.

[@yaoiboi60]

I mean a 97 should read damn close to flawless

[@christianlewis6789]

@@yaoiboi60 true, but nothing made by man's hand is truly perfect

[@justsomeguy2142]

@@yaoiboi60 elden rings isnt even as great as the hype tries to make it to be, at the end of the day critic’s opinions are just that…..opinions….if they gave it a 60 a bunch of people would be rioting. Just because they gave it a 97 while completely ignoring and not touching base on what the game doesnt handle properly or can do better….doesnt mean its near flawless. Just on the fact that they gave it that score while not being completely open and honest, giving it a 97 is criminal. But then again i do understand that so many games are dogshit that one decent game that has been hyped up nonstop since its beta gets blown out of proportion

[@Gamer_G33k]

Oh yeah, I've had several moments where the game would just freeze for a solid 10 seconds, even when I was surrounded by enemies. But luckily for me it also froze their ai so I managed to never die from these hiccups. (Playing on PC). And luckily they've never happened during a boss fight. There are plenty of things wrong with the game, but as of now, I have 214 hours in the game. One of the best gaming experiences I've had in a while.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Ubisoft has been a joke for years now. Ghost of Tsushima showed them how the games they churn out are supposed to be, and Elden Ring showed how little thought they put on their open worlds. Admittedly, quest markers are not bad game design. But relying entirely on them because your open world has no land marks and is a chore to go from point A to point B definitely is.

[@azarinevil]

I notice so many people are used to just skipping through game dialogue because of games like Watchdogs, Assassin's Creed, The Division, even GTA and RDR.. a lot of the stories sound cool until you make people watch a 15 minute dialogue that doesn't actually matter because the quest markers and log will give you the TLDR. Fromsoft never makes you listen for more than a couple minutes, and they make what people say actually matter. IF you don't pay attention to what the NPCs say, of course you won't have a clue what is going on in their worlds.

[@williammullinax6130]

I think quest markers are bad game design.

[@tomnixon3619]

@@williammullinax6130 I agree. Quest markers are atrocious and lazy game design.

[@shotgunjackalQ]

@@williammullinax6130 it depends on how they are used. In something like ghost recon it would be weird not to have them as it is set in the near future with AR(augmented reality) technology. Not having some form of advanced GPS system would be weird for an advanced military force considering civilians in developing countries have them. Something like monster hunter would suck without some form of quest marker, in earlier games it was done by paint balls and in world the scout flies. That's a good piece of design because it has an in world explanation and requires some exploration first. Street racing games would be unplayable without them. How would you know where to go during a sprint or similar type of event. Quest markers and waypoints are useful things that are sadly over used, often poorly and rarely thought out

[@ricardohoang8452]

@@azarinevil No one can stand with those "dialogues" anymore! It's so 6-7 years ago and Ubi geniuses think it'll still work until they tried to diss Elden Ring currently 🤣

[@mistahrobb963]

SMH, they're displaying such Maidenless behaviour.

[@maiden6294]

I know right

[@AscendantStoic]

More like Bloody Fingers behavior, they are out for blood.

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

They’re all tarnished!

[@motivateddad]

They need to touch some grace.

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

@@motivateddad LMAO

[@MortimerZabi]

One thing I will say is that in Ghost of Tsushima, whenever I got detected in a stealth sequence, I knew it was my fault. In an Ubisoft game? It often feels like the detection was from some guard I had no way to find beforehand.

[@OrenTubing]

In AC when i make all this way undetected and its time to air assassinate, when Ezio/Connor/Edward/etc drop on the wrong guy... or when i need to double assassinate two targets and he drops on just on one of them...

[@MortimerZabi]

@@OrenTubing that too. And it's not that I hate AC, but instead of improving the stealth mechanics they turned the franchise into common thug's creed and emphasized the direct combat.

[@jornavyr2459]

100% bro. You can sit and watch the AI in an Ubisoft game literally home in on your direction even when you're supposedly undetected. Ubisoft AI used to do the same thing back in the day as well, only difference is that now days the developers make sure that the enemy isn't alone, so that you're not able to just kill him and keep your stealth going. It's incredibly frustrating Game design.

[@denimschaffer9439]

I heavily adore Spider-Man PS4 and Miles morales even though yea they have the Ubisoft formula the combat, story, graphics, progression and traversing though New York was so much fun that It didn’t even bother me and I can definitely agree with the ex Ubisoft dev that we need more games that don’t follow the formula like Elden ring but that doesn’t mean all of a sudden the Ubisoft formula shouldn’t exist games should cater to all types of fans of these games

[@OrenTubing]

@@MortimerZabi i dont like the hitbox combat anyway. I realize the counter kill mechanic was too simple but it could have been built upon instead of scrapped. There are enough hack and slashers out there anyway

[@jasoncraig5958]

The fact that this game has many flaws and yet is still critically acclaimed shows how amazing Elden Ring truly is. It’s a game that doesn’t hold your hand or pump micro transactions down your throat. People who never even played a souls type game or haven’t enjoyed the genre in the past love it. Why? cause it’s up to you how you wanna play it. To me this game is the easiest game in the souls genre. The reason why is because of the fact that it’s open world. You run into a brick wall you can just go explore elsewhere until you feel you are ready for that brick wall. I probably have a lot quests going on at the same time. Ill finish them as I explore. Which I love personally.

[@joshbruns7403]

Yeah FromSoft just does things right. Even if Elden Ring isn’t the game for some of the people making these critiques you’ve still gotta give them props for going from a cult followings to making record sales.

[@GoatmanBDX]

I have never played a dark souls game because I’ve always heard they’re very difficult. A friend of mine talked me into picking up Elden ring. This is the best game I’ve played in the past five years if not longer. It reminds me of old games where you didn’t have a checkpoint every second. You know like Nintendo old school shit you didn’t even have save files. I am just loving it.

[@KrakkenXXX]

How does the game have many flaws?

[@pepsiboy4274]

@@KrakkenXXX the do have flaws, its not perfect. But the flaws can be overlooked no problem. Like pc optimization etc. It still called flaw but who gives a shit when the game gave you great times.

[@chronic2001n]

Extremely immature and unprofessional to be spewing out saltiness like that in a public forum. It's this kind of behavior that undermines success, quality, creativity, and progress. We don't need these types in the gaming market. GET EM OUT.

[@Tacoguy1000]

Ubisoft is the last company that gets to lambaste open worlds.

[@cirescythe]

To be fair their open worlds are really good. Just very formulaic at this point. But if you have not played too much open world games you can pick up any of their titles and have a great time. You CAN fault the whole picture buy not the titles when viewed on their own.

[@kingofthenorth2297]

Maybe ubisoft should put some effort into their own games before trashing others

[@ricardohoang8452]

I even doubt that Ubisucks will even try when NFT plans are in their eyes

[@stealthyshibe4904]

@@DUDULALALALALALA Will it though? Bloodborne was so good but didn't receive anything at the Game Awards. It's a rigged system. You never know which game will win.

[@lx4079]

@@stealthyshibe4904 sekiro won GOTY, don't worry about it

[@stealthyshibe4904]

@@lx4079 There is reason to worry. The results are very volatile.

[@Jonah-Philip]

@@stealthyshibe4904 Why should a Japanese game's worth be based on an award from the West lel

[@Berserk2099]

One thing I love about Elden Ring as opposed to other open worlds is that each section has its own identity. It’s own personality. Personally, that has made me much more attached to the game. Each city, area, dungeon is so unique that I can remember them so well. Who can forget climbing up the tree in the capital to fight Godfrey? Assassins Creed Valhalla (which I put over 100 hours into) every single city looks the exact same. Most of the areas look the exact same. You can’t even tell the settlements apart. Same with Ghosts of Tsushima to some extent. Every enemy camp and settlement all have the bland brown colored wood. Makes each area much less memorable and quite frankly without the HUD it would almost be impossible to get around due to the lack of relative location.

[@benfrank9622]

You're right about the Ghost of Tsushima. The only time it became remembrance is when we do the main story or a certain side quest.

[@goldenkirby21]

Dude not everyone has up to that point in the ER yet. Spoilers.

[@SolProxy]

What helps however is the fact that Elden Ring is fantasy. Ghost of Tsushima can't have locations akin to ER because it has to stick to historical realism. As someone who is interested in history and foreign cultures I was geeking out whenever I went to pretty much any settlement or castle In Tsushima. The island is also a very rural area, so it's not going to have massive cities like ER. So I feel like they can't be compared.

[@timnguyen4211]

@@SolProxy Ghost of Tsushima can have more inspired Mongol Camps and other areas, Not every game should have the huge scope of some Elden Ring locations, but it's just the small things that could make taking over these camps and exploring GoT's world even mroe enjoyable. GoT was also one of the few ubisoft-like open world games that definitely had some effort put in, as it was an amazing game.

[@hay_aye_ron]

@tim nguyen If you went back in time to a hundred mongol camps I bet they all looked the same. Slightly different layouts given the terrian, but you would see the same style yurts in every camp. This is because the mongols, like most militaries use and become universally proficient with the same equipment across the board. I feel like complaining to complain. You missed the fact that it's historically accurate to be similar. Ever seen a roman camp in a show? I wonder how similar they look, why would that be?

[@SL3DApps]

I bet 99.9% of the negative feedback from UBI devs is jealousy that they neither have the talent or company backing to do a game half as good as Elden Ring. When the main question in game development comes to “How am I going to make as much money as possible from this game?” then you know you’re f’ed as a developer and should resign out of respect to the industry. Game development is about pushing the envelop of making games. Gaining a community that supports you financially is part of that process but not the end goal.

[@ohpeep3723]

Totally agreed, they are just lazy people who want to do nothing more than just try to work as little as possible by reusing their former formula to get as much money as possible, So when someone actually put their heart out to do something incredible, they are just jealously criticizing because they cannot accept the truth that the customers want something better. In the end, they are just lazy ass people, we can actually see people like that every now and then.

[@asthmeresivolisk3129]

I think it's because they slaved their working careers away, through crunch time and hardship only for their labors of love to be met with lukewarm reception while something with a completely alien design absolutely shatters all their accomplishments. It's a lot to make a video game, you don't leave that process dissatached to your product, it's a part of you. So to see this happen to their "baby" has got to be soul crushing and painful. My heart goes out to them honestly. But hopefully this marks a shift in game design moving forward.

[@Zertryx]

I personally love how Fromsoft do story telling in their games, I like the more minimalist style of UI NOT "Telling" me everything, i like the exploration aspect of their games, i love reading the lore of an item and noticing WHERE it was placed and coming to my own conclusion of what the story is. I also love that i don't have a Quest log filling up my screen, or showing me EXACTLY where to go. i like not feeling like i have to gather every dot on my map of collectables. I like having no DIRECT way i am forced to go in an open world, it really does feel like an open game experience. I am also very tired of "Witcher Sense" in modern games. being able to see enemy's through walls takes away a lot of the mystery of whats behind a door or a wall or around the corner. I still think traditional Open world style is still fun at times? sure, but it defiantly is a breath of fresh air to see something different for an open world.

[@rickybobbyroode9814]

I love Elden Ring but I really don’t like the way From does their stories with the exception of Sekiro. They make a really cool world and half the time I have no clue what’s going on. If it wasn’t for Vaati’s videos I wouldn’t even know what the story is about.

[@Walker-ow7vj]

Ricky Bobby Roode I feel like that’s gonna be my experience when I buy it

[@Zertryx]

@@rickybobbyroode9814 Thats fine, each person has their own preference. I personally enjoy it its part of why i play the souls games. but if its not your cup of tea then thats fine too. but this may not be the games for you then as far as story goes. Not every game has to be like Souls games and not every game has to just lay out story for you in expositions. having the variety we have in gaming is what makes gaming so fun. It's nice to see games do different things. but not ever game is going to be for everyone. The Real takeaway from these kinda discussions is that gamers need to realise there are games out there you wont like how they do things, but other people do. this doesn't mean the game is bad its just different. and we dont need to always try and FORCE a game to be something it isnt. I personally don't like FPS games but im not gonna say FPS games are bad or that they should all have open world RPG elements because thats what i like about Borderlands. not every FPS has to be borderlands.

[@Zertryx]

@@R3TR0J4N This is why i stay away from wikis and forums during my first play through of pretty much any game. these are self inflicted spoilers, no one forces you to go there

[@dendyraven8952]

@@R3TR0J4N ruined how?

[@SinByGames]

Hey, that is me! I am glad you were able to go beyond what my tweets could and talk about the issues in the industry. I agree with all of it. I will add that I very much think that Ubisoft should be able to double down on their own schtick, because if the rest of the industry moved away from it then we wouldn't be as tired and harsh on Ubi from the "gamer" side of things. There is room for many different ways to approach open world, and I want companies to carve out their own path.

[@yeng7803]

yong please Pin this

[@torry3861]

Young needs to pin this

[@shirakenpsyop6843]

@KZbin Channel This was the ex-Ubisoft dev criticizing the current Ubisoft dev's tweet.

[@thesecretone6531]

Everything you have said in the tweets were spot on! It's been a dream to be a game developer for years, and it's been discouraging me whenever I hear horror stories from game devs from Ubisoft, ironically. But what you said have been a huge breath of fresh air for me.

[@samanthaprzybylski5526]

Pin this

[@PelemusMcSoy]

The fact that one staff member's bad tweet is being treated as the entire company's viewpoint speaks volumes about how people need to be careful what they say and post publicly, especially if they have their employer's name/product plastered to their online profiles. Whether you like it or not, you are always the face of your employer. If you constantly publicly say and post salty, controversial, or hateful things and a potential employer catches wind of this, don't be surprised if you have trouble getting hired.

[@WyrmAbyss1214]

it does stand as a good reflection of what the development side of things looks at within the company. The lead quest designer for HFW was the one who made the comment

[@craigscorer6310]

I don't understand how it was salty hateful or controversial. They had an opinion on something in their field of work and the elden ring fanboys freaked out because some dared to give a negative OPINION on the game

[@PelemusMcSoy]

@@craigscorer6310 I think people had issue with the tone. It looked spiteful.

[@craigscorer6310]

@@PelemusMcSoy so that deserves all this hate they've received and videos made about them and I guarantee people have being ringing into ubisoft to try and get them fired all.over an opinion they had on a game. This hasn't happened when game developers have had opinions on any other games ever. It's literally got to the point were you are not allowed to criticize Elden ring or say anything bad or negative about the game. The community around darksouls games is a cult

[@TheBlackSpartan103]

@@craigscorer6310 they were being petty that's the problem not their opinion

[@toshineon]

This is where "the customer is always right" comes in. That phrase isn't to be taken literally, which some people unfortunately do, but that the customer is ultimately the one that knows what they want.

[@sbeve617]

These guys just went from trying to gaslight us into thinking nfts would be good for video games to attacking devs who made a better game than them in a matter of weeks. Ubisoft will really put their effort into anything other than making a good video game huh

[@robrib2682]

Nah, I'm halfway convinced that they put extra effort into anything that could text me make them money besides their games. Because after all, who is going to buy a game that is a stale and repetitive formula that has been done to death for at least a decade now (with micro transactions/ loot box nonsense) when there is a new product on the market that seems to be beloved by most people that play it for a while

[@tezzabhoy1888]

Spot on! Stephen!

[@crystalwings4520]

Ubisoft went from *'eNeFtEe iS gOoD, pEoPlE aRe jUsT cOnfUsEd!* to *_'oH mY, tHiS gAmE sUckS bEcAuSe iT hAs a PerFeCt sCorE!1!!1!'_*

[@Ayixlia]

Both Ubisoft and PlayStation

[@Optamizm]

Are you stupid? These Devs aren't Ubisoft heads. Can't you separate the grunts in the company from the leaders who make the big choices like NFTs?

[@nawhteven3830]

The difference for me is, Ubisoft games eventually end up feeling like a chore instead of a immersive fun world, Elden ring world makes me feel overwhelmed sometimes, but nvr like a chore, more the fact that I didn’t start marking stuff on my map until mid game so I feel like I’m missing something, but once you get used to where things are, it’s gonna get even better. Elden Ring will just continue to feel better and be more fun the more you play it, whereas Ubisoft games get less fun the more you play them

[@Takato2527]

that's why I refused to play Ubisoft open-world games even if they're free for limited-time. They either make you grind to death or running across the entire island with nothing in it just to make you buy those microtransaction. This is one instance where "you have to be master chef to judge a dish!" is legit cuz they're developers, and open-world is their ... uhm ... "specialty" (?). Why don't they make a better open-world game than Elden Ring to prove them wrong?

[@GrahamChapman]

To quote Jim Steph Sterling: "Elden Ring reminds us that an open world is a world, not a genre."

[@sirith9157]

Collecting 200 god damn shards of hp upgrade isn't fun. Elden ring runes are just exp that is also a money in this world. So you're rewarded for fighting. This is just funnier than running looking for collectibles... And stuff you find in the world are ACTUALLY USEFULL AND INTERESTING

[@johnnyjaee1417]

Agreed. I typically don't have the attention span or patients for open world games, ESPECIALLY ubisoft games but elden ring has me hooked, it's my first soul's game too and I'm having a lot of fun.

[@LurnWell]

Interesting and well said perspective. You broke that down, instead of bland name calling.

[@Zeverinsen]

*Imagine* working for Ubisoft and calling someone else's game below par! 💀 Some game devs seem to forget that the player doesn't play a game simply because the UI/UX is perfect (Pot calling the kettle black LMAO). We want games that are fun, immersing, unique and exiting, without bullsh*t transactions, unnecessary grind and pay to win! I'd rather play a fun yet janky old PS2 game over the boring samey sh*t that has left Ubisoft's studios lately. The fact of the matter is that you can't really fix a terrible story and concept design after release. You CAN however successfully tweak UI/UX problems, which will only *help* the player's enjoyment of an already great game. I think some people just forget why others enjoy games in the first place.

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

There mad cause there assassin creed games are mid and only good ones where first few games

[@CrypterHD]

@@Deadhead-kq4hr altair, and ezio trilogy was so good. after that ubisoft should have done the world a favor by renaming the series.

[@wonder777warrior6]

I Consider this game release a Wake up slap to all studios who've been lacking 😃

[@wonder777warrior6]

@@Deadhead-kq4hr I heard Valhalla was really good though

[@Zeverinsen]

@@wonder777warrior6 I sure hope so! I'm glad games like Elden Ring and Final Fantasy 14 has siphoned players from a bunch of complacent franchises (If only Square Enix would shape up as a company too, that would be great). I hope other studios get the memo, and that governing bodies start to take action against their predatory monetisation.

[@demonseed360]

Funniest part of all is that it isn't even necessarily groundbreaking new design on From's part. They essentially utilized the design philosophy that they're known for and applied it to an open-world setting. The developers criticizing them must not have ever played Dark Souls before.

[@LittleCart]

I want Yong to wear the Goomba sometime soon

[@elianrodriguez7318]

Same

[@dimitri4457]

We need this to be higher on the comment list

[@spongebobfan78]

8:47 Everytime a game flops for doing something that make people say "wtf are they thinking", I always approach the things that they've done wrong with the thought of "maybe they're trying to take risks". When a flopped game takes risks, the amount of people that only say it was bad, without elaborating how, is very high. I feel that this contributes to why many AAA studios go for the safe formulaic routes, because it would be preferable to be seen copy-pasting safe stuff that sells well, rather than take risk, fail, and be seen as people who don't know how to make a game and possibly suffer from lower sales.

[@lery22]

Funny how this comment speaks the truth in so many ways but has barely any upvotes.

[@toblerone1729]

Probably because it hasn't been posted in time. That being said, every upvote is well earned.

[@goodgrief5578]

Oh no!!! NUANCE ON THE INTERNET?! AHHHHH

[@BoredPodcaster]

Granted, risks don't always pan out, but the failures show what not to do, so that the next title won't make the same mistakes. Gaming companies look at backlash and think "there's nothing redeemable about this project, they hate it, let's go back to what we've been selling", but they fail to see the nuance in backlash, which might be for a mechanic that fails to work, or for glitches that break the game and make for a bad user experience. Gamers look at games and see the trees that make up the forest. Game companies see that gamers don't like one tree, and throw out the whole forest, and instead provide a meadow that's full of things we've seen a million times.

[@Zeverinsen]

I'm sorry, but unless it's a smaller studio that actually values their reputation, you're a bit naive. Big developers make samey games because they know it will sell. They know it will please their investors. *That's it.*

[@dblczx6819]

When people complain about the specks in the eyes of their peers while they don't see the planks in their own. It's... tragic, really. Their bitterness and jealousy have created a firestorm, thanks to the nature of the Internet. I just pray that this is just another one of those bad press moments that dissipates with time, and that future developers think and consider these two different diadems of open-world design and blend them together to make something truly beautiful.

[@guts6633]

The thing that I personally think separates elden ring from the rest isn’t just due to how it approaches a new style of open world, but how it truly feels like the people who worked on this game loved this game and wanted it to be the best it could be. Assassins creed feels “plastic” in comparison.

[@wonder777warrior6]

I heard Valhalla was good though

[@cahillrebel]

“The UX design sucks and shows reviewers are dumb” Or maybe it shows that Fromsoftware knows how to make a good game that doesn’t follow a stale formula. They’ve always tried to be new and different and despite not being able to kill Margit yet, the game is still really fun.

[@hjy2187418]

" it doesnt have quest mark? BRUH"

[@CMTechnica]

Try bleed. Everyone I know that plays Soulslikes struggled with her. We've all used bleed to success

[@minusp895]

@@CMTechnica Her? Margit is a dude.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

monster hunter changes alot each game.

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

@@CMTechnica indeed. Uchigatana is like butter.

[@platinumdragonslayer6128]

The main problem with the gaming industry as a whole besides the things like what Activision-Blizzard is going through, is that greedy executives at the top who have probably never played a game in their lives are using games as a means to monetize them and squeeze out as much money as possible. And at the end of the day they’re the ones calling the shots and making these developers do what they want and stagnate improvements and progress. And the issue needs to be dealt with so game developers can evolve and grow and push the boundaries of what games can do.

[@titlasagna2172]

Been saying this for years

[@arsmariastarlight3567]

The issue is, they want games to be annually released, so they treat the game like industrial product, with things like formulaic game design, deadline, crunch, etc. While games that are good needs time to develop, especially those that borderline art on itself

[@studybuddy.]

Joshua Jefferson problem with independence is budget

[@guidorussoheck2100]

whats happening is that this studios are getting super super big, are produced by other big ass corp like Squareenix owning Eidos or Crystal dynamics. A game took at least 4 years of devtime to be good... they play it easy, they want the money to keep on going or go bankrupt.

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

What about indie games?

[@geordiejones5618]

As much as I loved the world design of games like RDR II or TW3, the epic high fantasy setting of Elden Ring combined with challenging and very rewarding RPG action makes me feel like a kid who doesn't understand all that much and needs to just go by trial and error. FromSoft games make you feel so accomplished when you learn how to beat something that gave you trouble at the start or when you adapt to a situation and avoid stagnation. When you feel the flow of combat there's nothing else in all of gaming that's quite as satisfying.

[@knightlysleeps]

I enjoy both open world formats, but it feels gross seeing developers of the most popular format trying to squash the rare format. It's like they are saying "How dare you go outside the mold and succeed?". I want both to exist. And I would love to see more formats outside the popular ubisoft mold.

[@joorak6366]

The thing I enjoy most about Elden Ring is how you can play it in any order you want. Before even meeting Margit, I had already explored the red swampy place and already gained access to the magic academy. I just picked a direction and started walking and found a lot of cool spells and items and weapons. Who would have thought, rewarding the player for exploring in an open world game? And no, collecting 1/100 bird feathers isn't a reward

[@daimpthing]

@Deer King At one of the gates you would find a map called "meetup location" or something like that, its in your inventory in the rightmost tab.

[@tyrusdalet]

@Deer King North of the Temple District in the eastern waters of Liurnia; there’s Glintstone Dragon Smarag. Behind where they rest, there’s the Academy Glintstone Key. There’s also an additional key *inside* the Academy somewhere to give to Thops ;)

[@Daniel-jz9td]

I despise collecting x out of 100 items on games, if the reward is bad or regular I feel I've wasted my time, even if it's good it feels like a chore which didn't have to be so time consuming and if the reward is amazingly good, it trivializes the main gameplay aspect to a point where no actually skill is required to get enjoyment out of the game.

[@AlexMJB]

@Deer King The key is next to the crystal dragon near the academy

[@Virtualsinner]

Gives me flashbacks to breath of the wild and rd2. Perhaps i get myself that game even tho i never played a souls game before

[@Frenchy_47]

Ubisoft getting a bit too big for it’s boots. Imagine dissing a game when they’re releasing the same AC game every year.

[@DantesInferno96]

@Shinobi Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla are all re-skins with slightly different mechanics.

[@christopherboye5498]

@@DantesInferno96 Honestly they were all bad, old and new. 2 was the only one with decent characters and story, but even that one suffers when it comes to gameplay.

[@0816M3RC]

@James Black Nope.

[@0816M3RC]

@Shinobi So why do you watch Yong when you clearly dislike him?

[@lx4079]

@@Lunk42 you think AC unity is better than AC origins lmao

[@Zetchzie]

Thank you Yongyea for being a great source of news during these stressful times. Also I wish all involved with the conflict to be safe.

[@305backup]

This games open world, and the entire game in general, has really been reminding me of Skyrim. The sheer vastness and complexity of the world is what I love. The hidden areas, the zones you get teleported to, all the fun ways they utilize the open world are great. For instance theres one chest you can find at the Tower of Return that takes you to Lyndell much earlier in the game, but only to a secret area that doesnt really connect with the rest of the city. This allows very early game players to see the beauty of Lyndell and the Erdtree before sinking hours into the game. You get a glimpse of a beautiful mid game area as a reward for exploring the early game area and I think things like that are just awesome and under appreciated.

[@apharys8921]

Most AAA devs: "I spent a lot of time making this thing, I'm going to make sure everyone sees it. Players might not figure it out and complain about lack of content." From Software: "Let's put an entire zone behind a hidden wall that's behind another hidden wall! Someone will figure it out eventually and it'll be awesome!" The differing mindsets of these devs are pretty interesting. I get the impression those at From Software actually enjoy games and have respect for their customers while AAA devs care more about maximizing profits.

[@Hauntaku]

The best things in games are the things people never thought were a thing in the first place.

[@jasonwhite2050]

Very well said. I agree. ❤️

[@maninatreeproductions9588]

Ash Lake comes to mind. When I found that place on ds1, I was astounded and had mad respect for fromsoft

[@cybertruckeralpha]

It's the kind of mentality that you used to see with older smaller devs like the early years of id Software. Developers who want to challenge their players, who enjoy messing with them and drawing them in deeper into the world. For From Software to hold onto that after being in this business for decades and essentially being a triple A company for a few years now, is downright heartwarming. Even now they never forgot who they were, or what made them famous in the first place.

[@frostery1483]

Of course players will eventually know that there's a illusionn wall, they fucking hit all of the wall to know if there's an illusion wall

[@ItIsGonnaGetWayWorse]

Ah yes, ubisoft open worlds, a concept so memed in the gaming world with their copy and paste, soulless trash.

[@Zanbatoss]

Waaaah. Our open world games are better. It tells you everything and you can even buy booster microtransactions to help you not play the game.. waaaaaahhh

[@DanielFrost79]

Amen!

[@MerryBlind]

"Soulless" nice.

[@darkcastle85]

So true lmao 😂

[@dongxx]

Elden ring is literally Dark Souls 4 stop acting like they don't copy and paste their games

[@juicewar3805]

Damn, it's actually so sad seeing people try to disrespect a game everybody likes, especially the horizon devs, I had a lot of respect for them and well, they do this

[@csgoark2521]

Again, One dev doesn't represent the whole team. same goes for Ubi.

[@BaeBunni]

@@csgoark2521 while this isn't a legal thing employees do speak on thier employers behalf especially on how they act. The fact is they are game devs insulting competition and seem to blame fans. Companies softly endorse this behavior especially how public this is getting. And that will definitely warp views if they do nothing.

[@csgoark2521]

@@BaeBunni there's something called free speech. any employee can speak his own mind at his own risk.

[@RusticRonnie]

@@csgoark2521 free speech is protection from the government. Not your employer. You can say what ever the fuck you want, but everything you say has consequences.

[@csgoark2521]

@@RusticRonnie that's exactly what I said, that you can say anything at your own risk. Seems like you like copying sentences.

[@Rhyds86]

I can't recall the last time I was so engrossed in a game. I wish them every success.

[@spbynum]

If I’m in charge of a game company, there’s no way I’m allowing my employees to air out grievances towards other game companies via social media. They can work elsewhere with that nonsense. That crap only leads to a firestorm of bad press.

[@widdershins5383]

As is evident from all this lol didn’t this dude think at all? Like wtf lol

[@MaaZeus]

In this case however maybe the backlash would do something good? Maybe the success of Elden Ring make other developers rethink their formulas?

[@cirescythe]

@@MaaZeus would that really be something good? hfw is amazing. One of my favourite games and very much not formulaic in many parts. I know many people that love every single assassins creed game. Would it be good if all those companys jump on ERs formula? I like that there are different games for different kinds of players. And as long as said games are great we should applaud all of them.

[@alenezi989a3]

That dude was just salty atleast if it was actual polite criticism people wouldn't be angry he was just basically attacking Fromsoftwere and say they don't deserve the success like wtf? Guess what the fans the actual consumers the people who paid for the game think this game does deserve all the success who are you to say they don't?

[@cirescythe]

@@MaaZeus oh and before i forget: i love ER as well. Outstanding game. No question about that. Just wanted to say that i love that im able to play ER, and other games that are not like that as well.

[@serlolol]

"But at this moment the entire buffet is just one type of bread" is such an excellent line, that developer gets it. Not like the others that have no ounce of professionalism or clearly any idea what people actually want from their games. Its a great take on the stale and boring crap that those developers make, they've become too comfortable churning out the same shit under a different title and they're shocked when people respond so greatly to a game that breaks that mold. Its like they're jealous of the games success but personally, it feels like their insecurity is leaking through, "oh no now we have to actually come up with new ideas for our games? Gods no, fuck elden ring for forcing developers to come up with something creative." Just seems like they're feeling threatened and they're lashing out. For the longest time I thought that I was done with games, nothing gave me that satisfaction anymore. That is, until the souls games and more importantly elden ring that for the first time in so long, gave me that excitement and childish glee in exploring a new world. Its not quest after quest after quest after quest, its literally you get to do what you want and nothing is really gonna stop you. From soft gets the open world concept and nailed it. Its an open world, why would you want to force players into pursuing quests? Let them explore, its literally the name of the genre. I also love how theres no mini map, I'm 100% sure if they had one ill just be staring at it most of the time to see my location, and that distracts you from the game itself, its not just point a to b, sometimes along the way you see something that looks interesting and you go explore it. That's whats so immersive about the game, it unapologetically doesn't hold the player's hand and coddle them. The game speaks for itself.

[@liesandy291]

What I love about souls game is the item description we can actually know the story piece by piece.

[@dewrito2325]

I wanted to stop playing videogames after seeing what happened to Halo. Seeing all that greedy business happening in front of you for so long felt so scummy. Dark Souls, especially 1, were my only safe haven. With Elden Ring and Zelda BotW, I feel like I'm playing the games I've wanted all my life

[@Tentegen]

Just started Skyrim for the first time if you can believe not too long ago. Skyrim is EXACTLY that for me. Havent done the College of Winterhold yet. Just.....walkin around........and see where the wind blows me. ended up running into a cavern and getting a Dragon Mask thing that my friend whos played for several years didnt even know about. Love the shit out of Skyrim for the exact reason people love Elden Ring. just.........explore.

[@melonseiiLOVE]

@@Tentegen I feel you, but for me it’s Fallout 4. I’ve never played a Fallout game before, only stuck to Elder Scrolls and especially Skyrim. I started a week ago and am still lost just roaming the wastelands, taking in the details. Bethesda sure knows how to create an interesting world, if only their story telling in quests weren’t so subpar 😔

[@robertoarbizu]

Mini map was a huge distraction in the last game I played (witcher 3 tho, no complaints) but this game is so nice! Ive spent almost 40 hours! Lots of exploring and online with friends (helping them out, first fromsoft for them)

[@daestka5512]

If Elden ring was made by Ubisoft we wouldn't have so many armours and weapons because half of them will be microtransactions not only that but I bet that the cool looking ones could have been the ones in the microtransactions

[@SupahTrunks7]

10:23 made me stop and think because they're so right. When I first started playing I held onto every stonesword key I could find and p much never used them and only started treating them like a normal item once I was told there's more keys available than things to unlock. for a while I literally had this conception that if I didn't get all the stonesword keys I could right now then the rest would require microtransactions to get. i spent so long paranoid that the game I bought was going to have hidden paywalls I almost missed out on some great content which is so sad

[@dirtylizardneck3890]

Kingdom Come Deliverance did a really great example of an open world and quest design that doesn’t follow these same formulas.. You just felt like a small nobody in a real world you had to be creative and try natural solutions for which the game had accounted for and rewarded you.

[@maks3311]

I love this game my favorite open world rpg

[@landotucker]

I loved it too. The combat was challenging and I can understand why it put some people off when 2v1 basically meant death at the beginning, but at level 14 I managed to solo a bandit camp with 10 or so guys (admittedly backpeddaling a lot, but I didn't die) The fact that you can only save with a consumable was a bit weird, but if you farm the ingredients for it, its not so much of an issue.

[@Walker-ow7vj]

Lando Tucker couldn’t you save also by sleeping? It’s been a minute since I played it but I thought that was at least an option.

[@John-996]

Amazing open world game really underated. Elden Ring gets to much credit for things even previous From games have gottten.

[@John-996]

@@Walker-ow7vj yeah but you had to do it after each side quest really created a level of tension.

[@BiroZombie]

When an ex-employee acts more professional than the current employees.

[@belisarius6949]

When someone is an ex employee of a crappy company, you know they got good takes

[@ThePumpkinLord_0g]

In my personal experience, going into the game fully blind. After years of waiting for this game my life does feel more fully comming together. Fromsoft makes masterpieces, the point when my eyes saw the map get bigger with the plato area is a feeling that you can not explaine with words.

[@MrNidhog]

I love this game simply for this open world formula i have not seen since playing Morrowind. Where you can just enter the world and wander into areas you were not meant to go into and be instantly punished by a much stronger enemy. Current open world game use scaling enemies, invisible walls, and blocked off areas to guide and players all while never letting them struggle too hard. To have a game that lets you make your own mistakes is frustrating but ultimately much more rewarding. Once youve climbed these hurdles it is gratifying to see how much stronger your character has become unlike other games..(looking at you Oblivion and Skyrim) where as soon as you find that good gear every bandit seems to also have it.

[@wonder777warrior6]

They have ebony and daedric armor 🤯

[@JustKelso1993]

You know that enemy leveling is implemented to keep the challenge of the game going, right? In games like Dark Souls and Elden Ring there is no need for enemy leveling because the bosses are automatically more difficult in some areas and as you progress.

[@neoxenia7014]

If less hand holding and guidance will become a trend yet again in RPG’s then Elden Ring might just be one of the most important games of the decade. I love games that encourages me to keep a notepad by my keyboard, that rewards attention to details and values problem solving skills in its players.

[@bigmanontheinternet3824]

I really hope the games recent popularity and impression rubs off on other developers in other reasons besides that too. The art direction, the creativity, the engaging combat flow. From software is once again showing that an audience for quality games that don’t hold your hand exist.

[@sithisdawnsend2730]

It makes me excited for Dragon's Dogma 2. Maybe it'll deserve the title.

[@Paws_Network]

You should check out book of travels, most of the team got laid off due to that exact design principle of not hand holding an encouraging you to have a notebook. The masses don't like those types of games and that's why Elden Ring is getting a lot of flack. I haven't tried Elden Ring, but I love book of travels. Edit: The most common review I saw with book of travels is: "I don't know what I'm doing or where I'm going." It's astounding to me how all of these shitty open world games have conditioned people to not critically think. NPCs, literally tell you stories about what to do and where to go. Your job is to go there and look around.

[@johnv6806]

The only game I EVER had a notepad by me for playing other than cheats like in the 90s was madden for draft prospects. I do not miss those days.

[@WaryObserver]

While I do agree on this, it should always stay optional, some people simply have trouble with certain controls or design choices. May it be due to disability or other issues. An option is always better than trying to force it on people.

[@jirojairo90]

There's definitely valid Elden Ring criticism out there, but a lot of it feels like "I don't like the game so it's objectively bad" and "I disagree with the design choices of the Souls genre as a whole so it objectively sucks". If you're gonna criticize media you have to learn how to do it. Media critique is not just "I don't like it so it's bad", you have to consider what the people behind the production wanted to achieve and how they wanted to achieve it.

[@rickybobbyroode9814]

If someone thinks something sucks why would they have good things to say? If they had good things to say then they would like the game.

[@sircinabun5478]

@@rickybobbyroode9814 I mean.. Dark Souls 1 had a lot of issues like magic 1 shotting people, twinking, infinite backstabs, teleporting backstabs, flat damage negation meant buffing or heavy weapons were the best things to use in pvp, stunlock chaining, the level design can easily make people stop playing if they wander into New Londo or the catacombs early, failure to keep your gear and character at the appropriate levels will also make people drop the game and it's unclear for newer players to know where to progress, I've personally played all the games blind but I know a lot of people even in Elden Ring play with a guide. These are fair complaints but the games overall are amongst my favorites so the issues don't get to me as much as others. I know someone who loves kingdom hearts but hates Nier:Automata. Whenever I ask why they don't give a good response, it's alright to not like something but it's dumb to just say it's bad, everyone has their own preferences. I personally didn't like the flashy but easy combat of Nier:Automata but every other aspect of the game was amazing to me. As for Kingdom Hearts I just didn't enjoy it in general and the story is confusing AF.

[@azurestaroforion1204]

@@sircinabun5478 I can agree with you there like I didn't enjoy dragon quest 11 or crash it about time all that much but I don't hate the games at all and I can say they are good game just not for me.

[@John-996]

Yeah its like when I was looking at some reviwers for Kingdom come some people were saying its bad because its realistic but that was how the game was advertised so instead you should critique it for Not being real enough. In case of Elden Ring How good is the open world ecploration. Does the game have Good boss fights and Is the lore easy to understand.

[@natesneatstuff8296]

@@John-996 The open world is pretty good imo. Not too cluttered, good amount of waypoints (i.e. bonfires) to teleport to/from, dungeons or minibosses always include unique rewards and almost no part of the overworld is locked behind any boss, and side content isn't shoved in your face like in other open world games. You could explore around 70% of the map before beating any story-relevant bosses. The map itself is also very detailed and makes it pretty easy to find relevant/interesting structures if you're actively looking for them or study the map. The boss fights are pretty good, although there are some fights I personally dislike (which is to be expected from the sheer amount) and some that are reused. I can't really tell you how easy the lore is to understand because I haven't looked into it that much, although I feel like you get more of a gist of what's going on as in Dark Souls but that may just be me.

[@mewo6298]

For playing all the souls games and now Elden Ring, I have to say that the that the game UX/UI is the best it's ever been. Personally I feel like scrolling through the tabs has been simplified especially for those wanting to know more about an item. For key and story essential items, they actually separate theses items into separate categories. Especially when it come to materials for upgrading weapons. They've even included an option to hold the (y/trigangle) button for more options and slots. Overall, for a returning player it's the best that it's ever been, but there are new players to acknowledge. So of course there would be some natural confusion, I hope most people see it as a plus more than overall a negative confusion. Don't get me wrong there could definitely be a little more slice of life things that could be added, but on how souls/borne games have been, this is great.

[@Battleguild]

Pen and Paper are a big help in keeping track of which mini-dungeon you've completed ot not. (Since there isn't a marker on a grace point if you beat the boss of the dungeon.) When you can only get to play a few hours every other day, keeping track of which dungeon you need to come back to later is really helpful.

[@jack-exzolt9858]

I'm not big into Souls genre, but playing the game made me see how phenomenal it was. The game felt like it was a long time coming, something of an endgame or magnum opus of Miyazaki, THE ideal dark fantasy game that he has been visualizing since its conception.

[@undying1177]

Ahh yes the original name for dark souls was "dark ring" *Try tongue But whole*

[@FelisImpurrator]

It isn't even stopping there. They're returning to Armored fucking Core and they might be using the lessons from Elden Ring to create an open field mech game. If they manage to make Armored Core into a freeroaming RPG, fuck yes. The true king's return will be welcome.

[@jack-exzolt9858]

@@FelisImpurrator Armored Core wasn't actually Miyazaki's thing. It's his senior's who actually is a big fan of Gundam. This was before he became CEO of FromSoft. Hidetaka Miyazaki wasn't even involved in Armored Core until 2004 when he was part of the team that developed Armored Core: The Last Raven and the proceeding titles.

[@undying1177]

@@jack-exzolt9858 he also uhhh made for answer

[@togusa1301]

It's weird, you'll occasionally get dev's call out company's for predatory practises, but I've never seen them actually go after each other over game design. Feels almost performative to me, like someone trying real hard to impress their employer.

[@Outlaw7263]

It's always about the money, gotta get that corpo-rat bonus somehow.

[@Nodiee1]

I'm legitimately wondering what that one dev's issue with the UX is. Maybe they think some UI elements aren't clear or explained to players, which I could mayyybe see. Like everything on the right side of the in-game menu screen. But that stuff should be easy enough to figure out if you spend any time with it. I know UX isn't just UI but, what else interferes with the player's user experience so much?

[@neitomonoma3968]

Yeah I totally agree but I keep getting distracted by the Alexander the jar guy in the back, where did you buy it

[@ih4286]

I followed the 1st 3 markers to the gate where I got crushed by a giant, decided to go the other way spent 14hrs just exploring ended up on the other side of the gate and just beat the 1st 2 bosses, I love this game. Just doing it my way is great.

[@cmnidit4444]

honestly thats been my main issue. feel like im not experiencing the game due to less explaination than any other souls game before. but its still a really damn good game.

[@FijianSouljah1312]

You’re gonna have so much man 🙏🏽

[@Redlinkz1235]

@@cmnidit4444 With Elden Ring, playing in any way is the intended way

[@TuffMelon]

I was like 12 hours in before I got to the Roundtable Hold because of how quickly I went off the beaten path.

[@belisarius6949]

@@cmnidit4444 Youve been so conditioned and railroaded havent you? Welcome, unkindled one. To a game that doesnt hold your hand and actually lets you play the game. No railroad. Just small dirt paths to suggest directions, but always making sure deviating from the path is worth your time. Using your eyes instead of mindlessly staring at a compass or map. Using your head instead of checking your overbloated questlog. Going into an area and getting decimated instead of facing enemies that always level along with you.

[@djmedusa4783]

I've been playing since demonsouls and all I have to say is the UX is part of the expierence. It brings the community together to figure out all the bosses, items, lore, quests, etc. Since everything isn't handed to you with the UI/UX the community has to come together to figure it all out as fast as possible, and I've made some life long friends from doing so. It may sound corny, but beyond the trolling and the Git Gud messages there's a massive group of incredible people who are eager to help. It's all part of what makes souls/borne/ring games special.

[@sabotreaper101]

Honestly in my personal experience despite the whole “git gud” people, the soulsborne community is one of the more wholesome fanbases I have ever come across. Most of the people I ask for tips on a boss who has bested me are usually pretty great with tips and strategies they give me, hell anytime I finally beat a pretty hard boss, I’ll usually leave a sign behind so if people need help i make sure it’s there because I was in their shoes once, because of how helpful they generally are. And yes I understand at some point you do have to “git gud” at the game.😂

[@marshallbeck9101]

Exactly it just shows that the people complaining about it are completely missing the point

[@12mmratchet84]

Right? Trying to beat rahdan there's tons of people offing help in multiplayer and after I beat him I stuck around to help others beat him also and took him down a few times

[@dudesalegend2356]

Also From has actually improved the UX quite a bit since the 2009 Demon’s Souls days. It was impossible to find your recent items or weapons as nothing was categorized. I’m totally fine with how far they have come with it over the years.

[@bruce1947]

The online part is an integral part of the experience. Sharing and helping each other out is as deeply woven into the game as the basics of combat.

[@GretgorPooper]

Gotta love how Ubi "same fucking sandbox every year" Soft have the gall to criticize something made by a studio that still puts their heart and soul into their work.

[@jmac8631]

I can’t stand these developers I can’t believe they take issue with Fromsoft because gamers want something different then the same formula of open world for the last decade SMH…

[@wonder777warrior6]

I think they take us for idiots, like some mindless robots who just feed their credit cards. 🤔

[@hattoripool1533]

It’s about time someone called these jealous Devs out

[@frankieb9444]

The clown at DICE is already a living meme

[@justalex4214]

The only thing I'm worried about is other devs taking the "elden ring formula" as an excuse to be lazy and not implement certain things into their games and call it a design decision.

[@Hauntaku]

Like how Nintendo botched New Horizons and claimed that it was supposed to be like that because it's a deserted island. Well duh, but that's not what the original point of Animal Crossing was! It's supposed to be about moving to a new town and meeting new friends.

[@justalex4214]

@@Hauntaku yeah like that...or bf2042 not having a scoreboard. I can see ubisoft or ea pointing to elden ring in the future whenever they get criticised over lacking features or incomplete content.

[@junojuno3745]

The difference would be the impact of these decisions. Yes they can hide behind “we did this on purpose”, won’t make people appreciate it and give it as much praise.

[@Darth_Bateman]

So don’t buy their fucking game then….you shouldn’t be worried, they should.

[@xFearsomePandax]

@@Darth_Bateman maybe think a bit harder on why your response sounds so moronic?

[@DrBocks]

I had performance problems at first, lots of stuttering, looking further into it disabling one option I think dof and killing the first horse boss it completely stopped. I'm not sure If it was buggy code of horse man or buggy dof settings but I haven't had the problem since killing that boss

[@flameloude]

Thanks for explaining what UX means. I was so confused when everyone kept bringing it up.

[@RzekiLupus]

See, this is why the ps2 era was my favorite era of videogaming. The sheer amount of varied and unbridled creativity that was still encouraged for most of that generation was so much fun! At the same time there was still plenty of comfort food. I want this back.

[@TheT3rr0rMask]

Las breath of real gaming ended a bit after the 7th gen consoles launch. Their early days had just as creative games that respected players, then we were hit with the COD ripoffs, DLC issues began etc. Then from 8th gen to now we're stuck w/awful open world games taking the place of the COD ripoffs then the even worse live service micro transactions replacing the DLC issues. Fromsoft's games feel like they're continuing what video games were tbh: true game design with hardware to support such visuals and world's.

[@nickchapman3199]

That era is alive again in indie gaming; lots of creative stuff coming out on steam rn from small, ambitious studios

[@TheBlackSpartan103]

Remember reading books on how to solve certain levels? Me too.

[@B_B-420]

"It just paves the road for an experience that feels ideal. Like it was exactly what the developers envisioned, like it was really made out of love and not out of greed." That right there is why Elden Ring has been so successful. The entire game is so incredibly well done (barring a few technical issues), with no monetization. That and the handholding in a lot of these games is pretty ridiculous. The immersion level that Elden Ring gives, by something as simple as literally not even being able to pause the game, is crazy.

[@Hauntaku]

You can't pause the game? Hm... well, that's not that bad for this type of game. There's a ton of action and they don't want people to cheat by pause-unpause spamming bosses.

[@silenceburns1336]

@@Hauntaku Demons Souls, the Dark Souls trilogy, and Bloodborne all lack the ability to pause (except Dark Souls Remastered on the Switch, which can be paused by putting the console to sleep). To me, that feature (lack thereof?) has always just seemed to fit the overall nature of the games.

[@cybertruckeralpha]

@@silenceburns1336 The lack of pausing also had a lot to do with the games' online elements, especially earlier on when all it took to get invaded at a moment's notice was to have your humanity.

[@silenceburns1336]

@@cybertruckeralpha That's a great point, and an angle that I honestly didn't consider

[@itszaque5031]

Just rode in a coffin to a completely new under dark area yesterday, I’m constantly surprised by the things I find in Elden Ring

[@roberthannigann]

i still get random stuttering and just utter blackness when im playing elden ring and it starts raining or when i start the game up if i dont change it from fullscreen to windowed its completely black except for the giant trees light

[@haschwell2757]

So FromSoftware releases a game that their fans wanted them to make. The fans love the game. Then we have developers from other companies known for doing the opposite of what FromSoftware is doing giving backhanded criticism about a game they don't understand. How about you stay in your lane and keep running on that yearly release hamsterwheel shitshow. I was afraid after Sekiro when journalists and whoever demanded an easy mode that it would have some impact on their next game. Glad to see FromSoftware knows who they're making games for. Not a thing you can say too often these days.

[@AJ-uf4sh]

A shame that Sifu devs gave in.

[@soulserum5030]

@@AJ-uf4sh damn... Can say that again

[@MrZombieforlife]

@@AJ-uf4sh context good sir?

[@ericvcod2133]

I like From games and i still think their UI and UX is bad for no good reason, Sekiro did a much better job by comparison. Just hire an UX designer. Case and point, the "easy mode" is hidden behind a npc that you have to find by teleporting to a previous area, at night, after getting torrent(your horse), apparently you can miss this interaction. And you can only buy this bell item in the main hub shop till later on, in which case you'll have to know "x" brings up the explanation that tells you what summoning spirit ashes even mean(why not put "x to read description" right next to the item icon, a lot more people would see it). Finally you'll have to equip the ashes, not in your weapon, like the similarly named ashes of war or memorized like your spells, but rather it's treated as an items that doesn't require equipping the bell. Also, you can't equip items in the inventory screen despite being able to use them there, you'll have to go to the equipment screen to do that, then linearly scroll through all of your items in a single direction in real time to actually use them, but don't worry! there is a quick access pouch if you hold triangle, their is also a tutorial for it, but it doesn't tell you where to find it in your menu(how long did it take you to find it? I know it took some people a couple of days). Almost forgot, pay close attention to the tutorial pop-ups or you'll be really confused on why sometimes you can and sometimes you can't summon spirits. That's how you access "easy mode".

[@thenextbigthing187X]

@James Black Yes, it's good for new soul players. But you don't have to use the feature as an "experienced" souls player you can make it easy or harder

[@cybertruckeralpha]

The quest design in Elden Ring is the most immersive I've played in a very long time. Getting into spoiler territory, joining Ranni's group is magnificent in its casual organic nature. The minimalistic UX adds to this, making you focus and absorb what's happening. Neither is a negative. By abandoning the checklist formula the game promotes going on adventures of the player's own making, and even blends major scripted events into that freedom, rather than have the main narrative clash with it. From beginning to end nearly everything feels optional, and the main story's importance confidently speaks for itself. Simply put, From figured it out. They cracked the open ended narrative code.

[@LightAndDarkMdness02]

This. Elden Ring is such a great fucking game.

[@samgamgi]

I feel the opposite. I joined the Ranni group, dude tells me to deliver something to someone I've never heard of before, without even telling me their location or general direction. 30 hours later, still haven't found that person, maybe she's dead by now. I think it was a she, don't really remember the name anymore, can't even check, because no quest logs, conversation logs. and the NPC won't repeat anything. I wanted to deliver the thing, but had no fucking clue on where to go, and the quest "ended" there for me, unless I look on the internet or find the person by fucking pure chance. That's not immersive AT ALL.

[@samgamgi]

I'm quoting the NPC: "I've no time for idle chit chat. The only thing I want to hear from you is a report of your task's completion. Are we understood? Then off you trot. I have enough on my plate. Fuck that noise. I'm loving the game, 100 hours in, but I couldn't give a rat's ass about From Software quest design.

[@Kameraspie]

@@samgamgi maybe pay attention when you're playing. Seems like you're used to the ubisoft handholding model

[@LightAndDarkMdness02]

@@samgamgi "Sellen in Limgrave" He tells you the general location. Then he gives you Seluvis's introduction. Read the item description and stop expecting video games to hold your hand. Edit: Also, if you actually took time to explore instead of rushing everywhere you would have found Sellen before she was even important to the questline.

[@diegoochoa572]

Imagine thinking your corporate UX formula is what players ""want"" while games with mod support have immersive mods that completely eliminate all UX ""features"". Now imagine these mods have millions of downloads....

[@Jonsoner]

My only gripe is the quest design, the rest I love. Including the minimal map that you can use to find mines, encampments, churches, etc without someone telling you it's there. However, since it's an open world, I don't know if killing a boss or discovering a new area will break, or create new storylines/plot/quest/characters. And if I want to learn more about a character or, get something vital like the free invasion finger, I would need to travel around the map over and over to ensure that nothing has changed. In previous fromsoft games, as long as you were curious, and at worst, you walked around a bit, you were able to progress with quest by naturally playing the game. Here, if you miss the entrance of the blood church in this huge map, you just can't invade for free. OR, you are actually in the right place, but turns out you need to kill one specific boss for him to appear. So in your mind, the area that you cleared and considered as done? Now has the npc. Very nice. Just as an example. Of course it would feel great if I randomly found my favorite npc, which are all of them, in the overworld. But it just doesn't seem right that I need a guide to follow a questline.

[@baconsir1159]

Really? If anything it felt way more obscure to get certain events or abilities in old Fromsoft games. How many people totally missed The White Lady in DS1 and never got chaos spells or couldn't save Solaire? Or missed the painted world because they didn't roll off the elevator and pretend to be an egg? Didn't get the Uchigatana because they didn't kill the vendor? Etc. Meanwhile in Elden Ring you can still buy from vendors after they die because of the Bell Bearings, you often get certain necessary items to continue important stories even if you sequence break or important characters die. You can definitely still miss big things but that's the tradeoff for the lack of handholding yeah? The world is so huge, dense, and minimal in its handholding that missing things is basically inevitable. Which is a good thing imo, as it makes subsequent playthroughs more interesting.

[@frostydraws6385]

The nice thing about fromsoft games is that they have ng+, so you can go back through and do things you may have missed in your first playthrough.

[@silverblade357]

"The design of Elden Ring leaves much to be desired. For example, why aren't those gargoyle keys $1 apiece? Why doesn't it cost around $2.50 to respec? Why isn't there an option to max out armor or weapons for $5 apiece? Do better, FromSoft!" -EA (presumably)

[@FlyJonat]

Only 2,50$ to respec? What is this, 2010? Companies probably charge 8$ for it nowdays.

[@Yhormungandr]

@@FlyJonat 8$ for 1, or our *Most Popular Value Pack* , 5 for 25$!

[@pacerboy1711]

Or $100 for unlimited keys

[@primecoconut4204]

Ubisoft devs are acting like literal children instead of being grateful that FromSoftware changed the way of what an actual open-world genre is done properly

[@Rubenz343]

Now watch them try to make a rip off in the next Assassin's Creed like they tried with the combat in AC: Origins and fail 😂

[@rickybobbyroode9814]

I really like Souls games but it didn’t do anything BotW didn’t do first. Elden Ring just does it a little better.

[@petebagwell6666]

@@rickybobbyroode9814 way better, imagine elden ring where all you get are shrines and korok seeds, stormview castle alone shits on hyrule castle, botw had villages and still felt dead, elden ring has barely any npcs and feels alive

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

@@petebagwell6666 agreed, the world actually feels “organic” or “alive” in comparison to others.

[@cybertruckeralpha]

@@rickybobbyroode9814 Breath of the Wild owes a lot of its apocalyptic atmosphere and minimalistic storytelling to Souls.

[@paulomazzer]

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[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

The problem I’m running into is near the end of the game figuring out what the fk to do next . Super annoying design once you get really deep into the end. The direction arrows never go away so it’s like wait I killed bosses here but am I actually done ?

[@dragonfire14x]

People always say that microtransactions like Ubisoft's are optional. Time skips may be optional, but their existence damages the games. Games that sell time skips are designed with that in mind, and do things in order to tempt you into buying a time skip.

[@-Apoptos-]

In regards to the ability to find newly acquired items, that feature does in fact exist.

[@MrMalformedllama]

It's incredible how severely people can nitpick when they're envious

[@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970]

I've never played Elden Ring and I can say it's a very good game. How? Well, Ubisoft which is known for doing the exact opposit of what a good game is is denouncing it, so it has to be good.

[@Daniel-jz9td]

Exactly, knowing Ubisoft, whatever they don't like it's actually a good sign of what to play.

[@captainkrk88]

I've been enjoying the mystery of elden ring. Talk to someone and they mention someone. 5 hours later talk to someone else "ooooooo that's who he was talking about" it makes me want to get out and talk to random npc's. I love it this is the first game where I like exploring all the tiny bits and I'm not just trying to burn through the game! There is just so much to it and I know I have discovered but a fraction of what elden ring has to offer. I've been enjoying it on the series x.

[@mikelramirez2585]

Hey, can you wear that N7 helmet? or it's just decor?

[@ZKSTLKDESU]

For me I've gotten used to how the U.I. feels since dark souls 1, and it's essentially the same in demon souls, some things have changed, and the only thing I found irritating with it was the U.I. turning off just showing your character and the background. Made it hard trying to get runes back in a boss fight when I had no idea where they were since the compass doesn't appear in boss fights, however you can turn that setting off and just have the U.I. constantly on. So for me I'm one sided on this saying I really don't have any problems with the U.I. at all since I'm used to it.

[@Darkeus1]

I actually do believe a majority of the devs from both companies think this way. Jealousy is a bitch. And no, the formulaic open world games need to die in a fire.

[@AnimeCoffeeShow]

In fact Elden Ring and BOTW didn't really brought a whole new formula to the open world genre, they actually adapted the old ways of open world rpgs like Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest, you get the information about a location and then you use your common sense on finding that location based on these information, though their adaptation of this style is unique to them.

[@Copperhell144]

@Plin Plon Morrowind was always praised for following that style too tbf

[@briandome3206]

Having to mark my map myself for the most part in elden ring was one of the most interactive and gratifying experiences I've had in a game!

[@garrettdavid8469]

I believe the ux experience is perfect for the souls franchise. Sure it's a little tedious trying to find a new item but it forces to to become familiar with items you have collected before. I like having the botton d pad cycle through your consumables because it forces you to have only the essentials and strategically place them in an efficient matter.