You Can't Build REAL Muscle as a Natural Lifter!

If you are a natural lifter you need to hear this. When it comes to building sizeable muscle and significant amounts of muscle mass you have likely been told that you would no longer be able to stay natty. Today, we discuss the natural limit and whether or not its possible to look great without indulging in PED’s or steroids.
To start, whether you are a man over 40 trying to build muscle or a young kid, I want to take you back to a time when I first started lifting weights to build muscle. I was a skinny teenager training at USA Gym. There were two types of people in the gym; those that were competitive bodybuilders or at least competing in local bodybuilding shows and those that were recreational lifters.
My guess was, if you were not competing that only 5 percent of the recreational lifters were using steriods or any type of PED.
Today, that number is estimated to have grown to upwards of 50 percent or more. Included in this group of people using are those that are taking TRT or testosterone replacement therapy as well.
The number of people within the group of competitive bodybuilders, athletes, actors etc that were using years ago that are using today has probably remained somewhat the same. Better drug testing practices have been implemented to perhaps decrease the number of professional athletes who use but that has likely been offset by the increased use in actors who use them to prepare for their roles.
Either way, the most significant increase in use can be attributed to the introduction of vast amounts of fitness influencers on platforms such as TikTok, Instagram, etc who likely use steroids themselves. The worst part however is that these influencers cast an unrealistic expectation upon their followers of what a “natural” lifter is supposed to look like.
This causes those young kids who are just starting to lift to set goals and aspirations of looking like their favorite fitness influencer under the idea that they are achieving their physique naturally. Is this ok? I don’t believe so. The biggest disservice is that this sets young lifters down a path to potential health ruin as they indulge in substances without care for the potential ramifications down the road.
The other side of this is that, in the pursuit of instant gratification, many young gym goers never even give themselves the opportunity to experience success in achieving body transformation. When one is able to put in effort and see the results for their hard work, the lessons are lifechanging and far reaching beyond just what you can do in the gym.
People that experience the power of being able to transform their body learn the reward system of trading effort for accomplishment. This has a profound effect on what happens in other areas of their personal and professional lives.
Now, we also have to focus on the older guys in the group who fall into one of three categories. Either you are the old gym veteran who has always been in great shape but have felt disheartened by your age related declines in muscle strength and size. Or maybe you are someone who not only wants to replace what has been lost but augment your natural testosterone stores by adding in supraphysiological doses and pass it off under the guise of TRT.
The final group is those that are just starting out on their fitness journey in their 40’s. Getting into shape and lifting weights was never really part of their lifestyle before and they fear that they don’t have the 30 years or so necessary to put in the work to realize their gains.
In any of the above cases, I break down the argument for why you still need to consider an alternative to PED’s or testosterone first before immediately opting to go down this latter path.
The bottom line is, whether you are over 40 lifting weights or are a young kid hitting the gym for the very first time this week, you need to be aware of the temptations that surround you at every corner these days.
For complete workout programs and supplements that can help you to build muscle naturally, be sure to head to athleanx.com and use the program selector tool to find the right plan for you.
For more videos on how you can’t build muscle over 40 naturally or how limited you are in building muscle over 40, be sure to subscribe to our channel.
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Jeff Cavaliere MSPT, CSCS served as both the head physical therapist and assistant strength coach for the New York Mets. Jeff earned his Masters of Physical Therapy and Bachelor’s of Physioneurobiology from the College of Health Sciences University of Connecticut Storrs. He is a certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist by the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA).

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[@atcstooge3497]

I’ve been lifting for 25 years and the best results started to come after I turned 40. Mainly because I’m smarter about my training, nutrition and sleep.

[@Grabthar191]

Also, I hear that artificial hormones can cause prostate problems. My dad has problems with his, and he's in his 80s. I definitely don't want to hasten those problems.

[@Ealron356]

Good on you man. The “optimal” workout life is usually short term and focuses on getting big in your prime. It’s a whole different gauntlet to lead a long life of fitness

[@garyfmnz]

Agreed! Don't get injured is the best advice and our egos don't seem to get that till we grow up.

[@KH9th]

Agreed. I'm 41 and now have the best body I've ever had.

[@ernestohenriquez6331]

You right I just turned 47 and I feel bigger and stronger than ever. All natural

[@jp2624]

1000% Always been natural. Best shape of my life. Don't take shortcuts and it'll pay off big time

[@thomasmurray1160]

I just turned 79, and started with weights about 4 yrs ago. I wasn't in bad shape before but wanted to face Old Age head on. I've lost 20 pounds (now 180) and my arms and chest have added a lot of definition. I feel great. I work out 3 days a week, and look forward to every session. A good trainer helps immensely.

[@jt663]

Always inspires me seeing older guys in the gym 💪

[@bassethsalamjohn6540]

I'm 24, been training since 18 as a natural lifter. The temptation of PED's has been very high for me in the past (especially the last two years or so) but these videos and becoming educated in the risks that accompany them has steered me away. Staying natural is the best thing you can do for yourself. Thank you Jeff. Thank you Jesse.

[@bovv8940]

Keep it up! You won't regret it!

[@geostruth9115]

I'm 65. Just started lifting 1 year ago. No supps or peds. My arm size went from 12.5 to 16, and my strength has tripled. I look forward to year 2.

[@KinevW]

That's badass, sir! And inspiring.

[@jaymo9085]

Keep up the good work.

[@jaredjones6551]

Well done sir!!

[@mvnfre_music]

Big Up!

[@espesq2391]

Same at 55, consistent training

[@therootscriedout]

I'm 58 and have been training since college days. I have my workout log for EVERY SINGLE DAY since 1998. Never desired to be biggest or strongest. Just desired to be fit. Looking great for 58 as I'm constantly told. All natural the whole while (started out at Lee Haney's Animal Kingdom and watched those monsters lifting). Captured my steady lifting on film since 1982. Be patient to all my young lifters. I was once you!

[@Odie_Evo]

Patience is the issue here. Young people want their dream body overnight. But it’s a long process. And they should learn to enjoy the process.

[@IrocZIV]

Consistency is key.

[@lj3726]

Im a 40yr old woman (post 2 c-sections!) who has been hitting gym hard and naturally for 1 yr now. I am now regularly getting praise for my muscle development now from big guys in the gym and friends/work circles. People in the gym DO notice when you're working hard! You definitely can build muscle with determination! The physical improvements become motivation in themselves. I imagine a guy putting in proportionate strength training would be in impressive shape given their natural male physiological advantage. I've never felt better and have only ever used Jeff's guidance for every exercise and correct form. Love continually learning from your videos. Thank you for everything!

[@rbw596]

Jeff and Jesse, Thank you for this valuable video. I want to add something that some (I hear) don’t think is possible. I have played around with weight training all of my life. However, I never got really serious about it until I arrived in my late 50’s. Yes, late 50’s. Now it’s for both hobby and health (mental & physical). I’m now 60 years old. Due to paying close attention to the guidance here at Athlean-X and a few select other sources, I self-educated myself on the best practices of strength training. I arrive to the gym with a plan, execute that plan, and then quickly leave to live life outside the gym. I am now following a protocol that has two main principles: Intensity & Consistency. I have a habit of going to the gym daily and for no more than 1 hour (I do a split body routine). So I am no gym-rat (insofar as spending loads of time there). I also now train in a consciously more intense manner than I ever have done before, emphasizing progressive overload and training to (or close to) muscular failure on every set. I have actually put on more muscle in the last 2 - 3 years than I ever did as a younger man. Frankly, it’s due to my current application of intensity, consistency, along with good nutrition, sleep, protein intake, and overall healthy life. When I go to the gym, as I workout and wait on all the younger men to get off their phones and off the equipment, I also watch how they train. More specifically, I watch how they don’t train. There is a conspicuous lack of training intensity with almost everyone I see at the gym. It’s clear they want more muscle, but they’re floundering through the exercises. It’s no wonder, then, that many of these younger men are (as Jeff highlights) looking for a hack, a shortcut, to more muscle, faster and easier. With an amateurish approach to training, they're influenced by (as Jeff & Jesse highlight here) all the shit-fluencers who explicitly or more discreetly encourage TRT/PED use. I’ll conclude with something I hope the younger men will read, digest, and act on. This world is in no need of more men with more muscle. Instead, this world is in need of more men with ethical strength, who are working to make this world a better, safer, saner place for all people. The degree to which strength training facilitates your growth toward a greater (ethical) strength that can actually help this world is the degree to which your trips to the gym are valuable for more than simply vanity and ego-tripping. Take care.

[@dalemason5970]

Word..👏🏼

[@SynergeticWarriors]

👌💯 Hit the nail

[@Thomasxtr]

Ethical strength. Well said!

[@rairaur2234]

Thank you for writing this! I have to say that your comment about most people at the gym just going through the motions and essentially treating anything that happens in-between swiping their cards as a leisurely activity is very-very true. I know this because, being almost twice younger than you, I was just like this years ago when I started training. I'm just glad I never injured myself seriously or fell for PED popularity before I found this channel. What's somewhat hilarious is that there are people that pick heavy weights and think they lift well when both their form and, well, intention is dangerously poor. My heart aches each time I see a skinny kid deadlifting way above his level with a back so arched it could support a ceiling. But, what can you do. All you can is just make sure you do well yourself. Cheers

[@rbw596]

@@rairaur2234 Thanks for this feedback. Hope others read it!

[@KinevW]

Great conversation! I'm in the older starter group. 6 months in with Jeff's programs, and seeing great results. My wife says I look better than I did 10 years ago! All natural work 5 days/week. I couldn't care less what others look like, what they lift, what they take. My goal is to be a better me each day, week, month, and year. So far, so good.

[@enacku]

everyone sees beginner gains, but the plateau is real for natural.

[@stukale9979]

Yes! I workout mainly fr the consistency.

[@RoquetSynce]

Thats awesome man! Good job! And it only gets better the longer you stick with it :)

[@tumamaencosplay]

@@enacku Not always, I sure as hell didn't see my begginer gains because I was already overweight, it's only now 3 years later that I'm beginning to see real change, and it looks great

[@matthewhiler7835]

Just keep it up and trust the process. I started using some of Jeff's programs back in 2012. I now do most of my own programing but I regularly integrate recommendations from this channel into my programs and recycle exercises and strategies that Jeff posts content about or from his programs that I purchased. There will be ups and downs and I recommend you come back to these comments any time you hit a lull and need a little incentive/reminder. Don't let any plateaus discourage you. Those are milestones worth working through. Kudos on your new healthy habit!

[@Ahmad86430]

Dear Jeff and Jessie. I am 35 years old. I started working out regularly only 4 months ago, after being inspired by your channel and videos. I’ve already achieved impressive results, and also receive positive comments from my family. I am 100% natural, and never even thought of taking any drugs. Thanks to you, you have unlocked a treasure of knowledge on how to train effectively, and most importantly, safely. I try to take into consideration my back issues, and therefore avoid certain equipment altogether. Once again, thank you very much for helping so many people.

[@littlewormtony7218]

Good on you man keep going!

[@MinchDog]

I'll be 51 in March. I lost 80 lb about 4 years ago. You are one of my main channels I watch. I never thought I could run and I run quite often. I have never taken any supplement or testosterone replacement. I know I need to work harder to get the things that I'm wanting and this channel I believe wholeheartedly is the one channel that's for me and many others. It puts the science and education in training.. I lost my weight simply by watching what I eat. I no longer eat processed foods.. and hitting the treadmill daily.. I give this testimony of myself with love and good energy

[@nkymatsumoto]

42 yr old here, never trained in my life. Worked in IT with the body to go with it. I started training seriously at 39 and figured it was my last chance to turn my life around. I couldn’t even do a single push up and now I do weighted pull ups every week. This is something I never imagined I could do. I started with bodyweight training because I was too ashamed of my body to go to the gym and didn’t feel I belonged there with all the huge guys potentially on PEDs. Now I’m doing Calisthenics and free weights. Never considered taking PEDs because it would defy the point. It was consistency and discipline that allowed me to transform my situation and build strength and muscle. Your body will adapt if you put in the work at 40, but it takes a tremendous amount of effort and discipline. If you are considering taking PEDs at 40 before ever lifting a weight, ask yourself are you going to have the grit it takes to carry you to your goal?

[@imoffendedthatyouroffended5173]

I did the same exact thing except haven't reached 40 yet (38). It took about a year and a half of strength training. I went from not being able to do much and embarrassed to being able to bench 350lbs and climbing. I'm shocked at the results and it's natural. But it does take a lot of dedication.

[@rolandorobles6375]

My greatest gift as a lifter is I go into the gym and just lose myself in the regimen. I’m so deep into the workout and the intensity is so high that everyone in the gym “disappears”. I don’t have time to compare myself to others because I’m too busy kicking my own ass from start-finish. However, I can sympathize for those youngsters who have been born into this comparison game

[@czarizo05]

Excellent vlog. I’m 61 and only started this fitness journey 5 years ago. Watching your videos and learning from your always science based routines and principles, make me respect your work. This was enhanced with the transformational coaching you did to Jesse and the hard work done by Jesse. I’m 6’2” and I’ve been on 185 lbs for almost 4 years and you guys are an inspiration to wake up everyday and keep working harder to see what I’m capable of doing. Thank you!

[@willgrealy1727]

From the UK. I turn 50 next year and been away from the gym for 5 years. I returned to the gym this June after 2 years of sorrow which included losing someone very close to me. I lift naturally and feel stronger than anytime before. I also combine this with taking care of my joints and making sure I am injury free. I train 3 to 5 times a week depending on my work shifts. I train no matter my state of being. Sleep quality is also key and I am not afraid to say sometimes this does slip. Nutrition is the next barrier for me to break through. I train for myself and no one else 😎🖖

[@LMF5000]

How do you take care of your joints?

[@willgrealy1727]

@@LMF5000 I don't do any thing fancy to take care of my joints. It's about awareness and carrying out gentle movements and stretches beforehand. My left shoulder is a weakness from a childhood injury. So I am very conscious of that. I also research different exercise practices regarding movement and motion. I then try them out to see if there's any benefit for me.

[@dakotachiasson4347]

I’m 20 and been lifting for 3 years. Started around 140-145 pounds as a fairly skinny guy and am now sitting at 175. Achieving this naturally I imagine to be far more rewarding than if I had used PEDs. For anyone out there starting lifting, please just give your natural self a shot first. Through dedication and discipline you will build something amazing

[@rodidoesburg4061]

Had exactly the same path😅 So would agree

[@travm5540]

Well the right way of taking steroids if you were too I believe is reaching your natural limit then if you really want too, do it then

[@RS-pn9wu]

@@travm5540there really isn't a natural limit or at least it's much higher than we think so. Most people don't even try reaching natural limit, or reach a certain physique and say that's it this is my natural limit.

[@Sevr-ln7kk]

lmao you are freaking 20 years old, your testosterone is at its peak. of course you dont need help at age 20

[@user-fn1cd6mo9z]

@@travm5540 Yeah, this is what I think, too. At least 3-5 years of serious natural training, imo.

[@followingrj]

Oh, this was such a great and timely message. I’m 47 years old and I’ve always had a naturally lean physique, but I’ve always wanted more size and recently I’ve been hitting the weights hard for the past couple of months, and I have seen little gains with all the effort and calorie surplus which has led me to get discouraged and even think about using additional help but after watching this, and hearing what you said, you are absolutely right, we need to stop comparing ourselves to everybody else, with that being said, this was definitely motivational to keep me encouraged throughout my fitness journey, thanks, Jeff.

[@TheAmericanAmerican]

You've got a little more than a decade on me. I had a coworker who was in his 50s and OBVIOUSLY used. He looked great but man-oh-man was he a loose cannon! One minute he's your best buddy and then next minute he's in a roid-rage and you'd better get out of his way! He finally broke down and had to apologize in front of the entire company... he literally broke down crying! After that whole experience, my opposition to roids was completely solidified. It's just not worth it. Ever.

[@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars]

Correct choice also because once you start riding the steroid tiger, you cannot get off without crashing hard. You are stuck for life or you crash, sometimes with much lower T than before you started. Sounds like a horrible fate.

[@followingrj]

@@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars yeah man long list of bad stuff comes with that journey

[@JustTantalo]

A couple of months is not enough to see big gains for natural lifters! Keep going strong, you'll end up seeing the results you seek!

[@kinnymonster]

Stay strong, & natural.

[@Heather-qf3jo]

Body dysmorphia is very real. Over 40, natural female lifter here. I trained a bit in college but really started lifting seriously 5 years ago. For me, it's about consistent training, nutrition and making sure I get adequate rest. I lift, full body, 4 days a week and had to accept that I really need a rest day in between. I follow macros with 160g P. Very happy with the strength I've developed - DL 1/4 205, BP 2/6 115, Squat 1/4 185 and I feel fantastic. Also, I focus more on form and bracing, so my numbers are probably lower, but I am injury free which I think is an accomplishment. I lift about 12 hours a week.

[@patriciofernandez6500]

Congratulations! My sis in law is a lifter and says I'm weak. I agree. Now she's training me. She's awesome.

[@luckybaby8148]

100% Im also a female. I was lifting regularly a few years back, 6 days a week, 2+ hours a day. I was making amazing gains but all I saw was these other women who had been training years longer. I felt like my stomach was still too fat, and my butt/legs were too small... Then I got pregnant, had a ton of complications and injuries, and lost nearly all my progress. Now I look back at my photos that I took when I THOUGHT I was fat, and I realize how distorted my eyes were.

[@michaelcarlson2400]

You make many great points in this video. I turned 61 years old in October. Been working out at the gym since I was 16 years old in my hometown. Over the course of my life, I have yoga training, acquired a black belt in taekwondo And participated in many other physical regimens from cycling to running. My point is that it’s a lifelong process and that is how I look at it. As they say, Rome wasn’t built in a day. To me, for optimal, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health and well-being, I have always taken the long term approach. Make no mistake, I was the skinny kid in the gym that wanted to have big muscles too. I had such a high metabolism. At 61 now I am making better gains than I ever have had any other point training in my life. Don’t worry about what other people are doing in the gym or how they look. Do your own thing and keep plugging away. This is for your whole life.

[@AM-js6vs]

Turned 40 this year and got back into the gym after about 15 years of not taking care of myself. I'm now in the best shape of my life and my progress and gains have been outstanding. Being more knowledgeable at this age combined with motivation and determination has led to a physique I'd be proud to have at any age.

[@dscc]

Thanks for the open conversation. I'm 66 which probably puts me at the far end of the older group. I've trained on and off for many years, never seriously. I''ve been more serious about it over the last few years. My goal is to delay the effects of aging as long as I can so I can enjoy life to the fullest. My competition is myself. I'm working to get better in every training session. At this age, I know there are limits to how much muscle/strength I can and I sure as hell know I'll never deadlift like Jessie. (Your deadlifts are f@#*king amazing!) I'm not planning to take any PEDs. In fact, I'm pretty late to the game for even taking supplements. I've only been using a pre-workout for about a year, and only last week added Creatine. LOL. I watch your videos because you're showing us how to train safely. That's important for any lifter, but for someone like me in my mid 60s, I definitely want to avoid injuries as long as possible because it'll be a long way back. Thanks again for all your great content!

[@kimblemooney2757]

I am 67 - have lifted off and since mid 40's. I have been more dedicated over the last 18 months and working to overcome many old injuries which I am delighted to say can be done. I have regained my physical confidence. I have put on visible muscle, improved posture, mobility and sexual desire. Not only am I increasing my strength but my entire physique and mental state is improving. If you want to reverse aging - lift, using high intensity.

[@davidbrown4271]

How do you deal with injuries?

[@kimblemooney2757]

I work the muscle group involved even, if there is a tendon tear, directly to just below damage level. Its hard to identify the actual muscle but as you work it you also use whatever manipulation to stimulate repair - massage like deep and intense with massage guns or wall mounted massage aids or direct with pros. Even joints like a knee which had ACL replacement 20 years ago plus lots of medial damage. I am using direct movement - like squats lunges and also backward sled drags and forward sled pushes. After decades of pain when hiking and so on the pain is diminishing to almost nothing and I have full confidence in it while carrying weight (hiking with heavy packs) on rough terrain. I believe that you can reactivate long neglected muscle groups and effect repair.@@davidbrown4271

[@TottoG]

Jeff, you're a legend in my book. Always giving us solid, experienced advice and most of it for free. Taking the time to be a genuine voice in the abyss of fitness content. I've been following Athlean-X since I was 16, starting out with weights. I'm now 26 and, if it wasn't for the strong foundation I set by studying hundreds of your videos, there's no way I would have established the naturally-healthy body I currently have. And the benefits attained from that fitness/health proficiency go further than just looking good; there's the good mood, the consistency, the mental and physical fortitude - the feeling of personal satisfaction bleeds into all facets of life. Looking at who I am today, I feel so much gratitude that I've had access to your advice. Sure, personal effort is always necessary and will always pay-off but the fact remains that you have been a positive, life-changing mentor and inspiration to me. I bet you've been this for thousands, if not millions of others, as well. Truly, Jeff, thank you for everything you've done with Athlean-X. May you feel profound satisfaction in not only your own personal triumph in health and fitness, but the gifts you have bestowed onto others, as well. I hope you see this because you deserve to hear it. - Anthony

[@edbutzwiggle4227]

Anthony Amen bro!!!

[@elliottsilk1158]

Jeff I am 65 and have been lifting all my life. I’m 5’7” 155lb and in the best shape of my life. I’m lean and cut and owe that to you. I follow you and constantly update my lifting according to your video. When I was younger I weighed 185 and was huge but all natural. I competed in dancing so I got a reputation and was crating routines for all the body builders in St Louis. The use of steroids is out of control however I still feel that you can gain muscle and look fantastic if you put in the time and effort and at 65 I can prove it. Owe so much to you!! Elliot Silk

[@Vik1919]

I don't care about looking good if it damages my health. I just care about being healthy, whether I look it or not. Also, natty people actually look better, imo.

[@jeltoninc.8542]

Well yeah, it’s natural.

[@aaronc9849]

I completely agree with everything said in this video. When the pandemic started I was 300 lbs. In 18 months I got down to 163 lbs by getting my nutrition in order. Then I added a workout plan and I’ve added 25 lbs of muscle. I’ll be turning 40 in 2 weeks and I’m in the best shape of my life. I’ve never considered using enhancers for the reasons mentioned. This channel has helped me tremendously in crafting a workout plan that works best for me while still allowing me to get the desired gains. Now let’s see where I’m at when I turn 50!

[@MrRich710]

Awesome story Aaron! I got my best gains in my 40's. Don't listen to any of the judgmental BS that you can't improve on what you've built because you're older and that you need TRT or other drugs. It's simply not true.

[@sathivv950]

Wow dude nice job. That is an incredible turn around.

[@i8147]

Good stuff man! Well done

[@jackmarks2270]

Jeff/ Jessie, Just turned 74 and back in the day my loved Charles Atlas booklets on body building Dating myself. I was always smaller than others and began lifting weights and etc. Saw many younger than me on PEDs and decided not to go down that path. After neck, lower back surgeries x2, labrum tear, brachial plexas atrophy on right bicep, anterior deltoid, pectorial atrophy I am still lifting. Thanks to your education, training techniques you have shown me alternatives to my training, whether using bands or making safe adjustments so, I will be able to keep training and am happy with my development at my age. Keep up the good work with alternatives to allow us old guys to keep training despite medical issues. Your a life saver.

[@dr.vishnurajs8970]

I have been literally following this channel for more than a decade and all information here is simply honest and evidence based. Thank for the awesome videos and info Jeff.

[@MrDirtySpartan]

Thank you guys for sharing this. I've recently been going back to the gym after a few years of missing with my absolutely wonderful partner who joins me. One of my biggest struggles, oddly enough, is my size. I'm 6'6" around 300lbs. When I was in high school wanting to play football I was already 6' at 14, so of course they immediately threw me on the O line, and wanted me to lift as heavy as possible as often as possible. Lifting didn't come easy, and growth was slow, but most importantly painful. I figured it was just "no pain no gain" and it would get better, but it only got worse. After leaving football after just one year, I didn't go back to the gym until my sophomore year of college. I have a uncle who was a body builder who helped got me an exercise program and I followed it religiously, but after a month the pain in my shoulders became too much and I went to a doctor. It turns out I had a small deformity in clavicles that made them grow longer than usual and curve slightly downwards. After lots of PT, they finally allowed me to have a surgery to shorten them and clear out what turned out to be bone spurs that were effectively shredding my shoulder tendons apart. Now, years later, even after more PT post surgery, I still have some pain in my shoulders, albeit much less than before. But I still struggle to lift, and the pain is not only discouraging but makes me fearful to injure myself again. Being big, I've always heard people say things like "If I was your size I'd be playing in the NFL" and things of those nature, which on the surface is a compliment but underneath just makes it feel like my size was wasted on me. And it's rough struggling to bench even just 15lb dumbbells because "Why is that big guy struggling with those tiny weights? That's pathetic." I've gotten in the habit of projecting those kinds of insecurities as false expectations from other people, especially other people who actually matter. This channel in particular has been incredibly helpful in allowing me to work out those weaker areas more safely and confidently, and having my girl as a supporter to remind me of what matters has been doing wonders. Can't thank you guys for all the guidance & work you do to help guys like me feel ok to struggle in the name of growth, regardless of what others may think. Much love!

[@bovv8940]

It's a personal journey, for sure. It is you, against you, that's all. Be lucky!

[@nataliamason3398]

Love the way Jeff teaching us all how to take your training into perspective, and make sure it is a long run! A lot of great advances, out of the experience. I wish I was watching you when I was doing all my heavy lifting in my 20s. A lot of injuries past, I cannot relate more! Great channel. Being a fan for a long time!Thank your Jeff ❤

[@quila5397]

Thanks for the thoughtful and respectful messaging on this topic and for your helpful videos. A friend introduced me to the gym in my mid20s, then career and kids became a focus for 30 years, and I returned to recreational training just earlier this year. My time is still squeezed, so I prefer to train at home with a bench and dumbbells (and I’m really appreciating your recent dumbbell focused videos!). No PEDs now or then. I can lift more now than then (which surprises me). I have no big training goals - just aiming for better and enjoying the journey, and the results have been satisfying so far.

[@eircification]

I almost lost my life from juice. 15 years natty I went all in on some gear with my gym bro. I got massive, it was great. UNTIL I almost offed myself from depression, covered in acne , arrested for road rage (followed a guy into a target parking lot and pummeled him), lost my fiance because of my scary behavior as well as lying about my use. My nuts shrunk up, the list goes on. I'm starting to rebuild my life but it's hard to get over. I was trying to look better for my fiance and ended up losing her. I look back with nothing but regret and that was surely my life's biggest mistake....the mental aspect isn't talked about enough either. I had depression before starting but when I was ending my cycle it was almost too much. Thanks for spreading this super important message, the young impressionable minds don't understand the true impact it can have. You guys are the best.

[@TianMcPherson]

This is awesome. I'm in the "veterans" group. I been working out pretty steadily since before puberty. I have not ever used PEDs, and I've even stopped supplements at this point (I don't consider protein powder a supplement...it's just food in powder form). I have seen with my own eyes how a focus on diet, proper sleep/rest, and a great workout program (like AX Beast) can provide IMPRESSIVE, natural, steady and sustainable results. I love how I look, and love how impressed others are when they see me. Thanks Jeff. This needed to be said

[@PitsPenguins87]

I’m 30 now and started at about 18-19 and you were the first and only fitness KZbinr or content creator I ever followed. I’m so grateful because my approach has always been the science behind training and all the other realistic aspects of the journey. I have never incurred an injury in the gym, put on a considerable amount of muscle while keeping body fat low, and get compliments/questions about my training from friends and guys at the gym. There are so many positives that come from training naturally. You really get in touch with your body and what works and what doesn’t work for you, which translates to general health and well-being as well. You feel a real sense of accomplishment that comes with the mastery of your own body. It’s instills patience, work ethic, consistency and dedication that help in all aspects of life. It’s discouraging and odd for me to think about guys starting out having this mindset that the only thing that matters is the visual in the mirror and it has to happen now.

[@almostsmartq674]

Well said man, same age and I boxed when I was younger and was in great shape. It never quite left and I retained a decent build but decided to start taking my exercise more seriously and the gains have been incredible. Outside of looking better, my overall life has improved in nearly every area. Feels great.

[@icapoi]

I love the J squared videos! Thanks for the great content you continue to put out. I will say to anyone that hasn’t used the Athlean-X training programs, the value of the content is beyond what it costs, and the supportive community dashboard is so so good! You guys are a blessing. Much luv!

[@kenw6459]

You guys are right. We should never risk our health because we feel insecure about our own bodies. We should feel motivated, inspired, and hopeful about getting stronger and healthier via training. The ultimate goal, at least in my opinion, is to become happy, confident, and proud about what you've achieved. The journey is just as important as the destination. Having said that, I'm a 39 year old father of 2 boys (5 and 2) from Massachusetts. Both of you, Jeff and Jesse, have inspired me to start working out again. Jeff does an amazing job at explaining the workouts, nutrition, and science behind a lot if it, and Jesse makes it all entertaining and light hearted. It makes it easy to learn and fun to try. Since I started my journey with you about 1 year ago, I have lost 30 pounds and 4" around my waist, my cholesterol has greatly improved, I no longer have a fatty liver, I have a lot more energy, and I'm feeling a lot better, happier, and more confident. My journey has only begun! I want to thank both of you and everyone else at Athlean-X for inspiring, motivating, and educating us. Even if you can't see or hear about all of us, please know that you are all changing and saving a lot of lives. Thank you!

[@cimarronMC]

Thank you Jeff, I really appreciate your work. Your knowledge has really helped me out a lot in life, I went from being an overweight kid who knew nothing about fitness or health, to being in solid shape now and still just on the beginning of my journey, through your info I lost tons of fat and gained muscle and strength as well as a lot less joint pain and better mobility. Exercise went from being a chore to being something I love and do everyday. But most importantly it gave me life stability and happiness and gave me a new drive to try new things and to challenge myself in all aspects of life, so much so that it's now my career path as a physical therapist as i am going through school for it right now to one day live out my dream to be able to help others.

[@SouBuuS]

This is EXACTLY why I love yall. I've been following yall for a long time now. One main reason is because you guys aren't cocky ass jerks like some other youtubers are, yall give out great content with well explained pros and cons of each topic and most of all yall are super humble. That is one trait that is far long forgotten and so hard to find in people now. I can't stress how much I agree with what you both said about how you should ONLY worry about impressing yourself. Cause for me that's what it has always been and I've never worried about what others think of the progress. I'm a man of little confidence so I never think my progress is that great and I've never cared about what people thought of my physique. BUT I do feel a sense of accomplishment when I get compliments at the gym or even outside of the gym when people ask what my routine is and that they want to look like me, it makes me think that I really am progressing and am doing things right. Most of the times its teens who ask me what my routine is and what I do, this is what I tell them. Also gotta mention Jesse's gains are crazy good. Senor Jeff is a great instructor! haha! 1. NEVER worry about how much the guy next to you is lifting 2. Focus on proper form over how much you can lift 3. Consistency is the key 4. Get lots of rest 5. Stop trying to compete with others and you'll find you getting better results Those are always reminders in my head as I work out everyday. Although I know it I repeat it over and over and this has worked for me.

[@DonKappa1]

Thanks Jeff and Jessie! Its really important to have those conversations once in a while. 👏

[@JL-bp8xl]

I have been lifting on and off for quite a number of years. I took the last three years off but am ready to slowly start getting back into the gym with a renewed sense of focus. I have learned so much from watching your videos over the years. Keep up the good work!

[@michaeljacobs8761]

I’m 60 and started late working out. The one point you make that no longer applies is “your goal should be comparing yourself with yourself”. At 60 I’ve learned that what I see and what I’m working towards is a better physical condition that will last, not the instant gratification. That should apply at any age.

[@Lowell1970]

Outstanding! Love you guys. I have learned so much from your channel over the years. You two are helping millions.

[@mootley]

Thanks Jeff. I have an 8 year old who is involved in martial arts and is already interested in lifting due to being around what i do (muay thai/mma). Trying to make sure that when he gets older he doesn't fall into these traps and is around good influences in the gym is a major stress for me.i have been offered peds over my time and said no but the influencers scare me with their influence over these young guys. I appreciate your videos.

[@jamiemoon5407]

I started working out at 70 I am now 77. I’ve had growth and 100 pounds weight loss. Without trt but I am now under a doctors care using TRT.

[@davidbrown4271]

How’s the difference on trt ?

[@caseydent3199]

This is a great video and message you're sending out - love your work!

[@Artywalker]

Early 30s, just started training with the help/inspiration from your videos. To lose COVID weight and tone up. Was 5'11" 180lbs and after a year now a lean 150lb. Achieved my goals of abs and a nice physique. Through diet, discipline and determination I've seen my body transform. I'm happier now than ever. Don't forget the mental health benefits from exercising. If you have stress and anxiety the gym can help. Focus on your own journey and don't compare yourself to others.

[@johnharwood2773]

What an incredible talk! Everyone needs to listen to this. Thank you again for putting out videos like this Athlean X

[@vletrmx]

Got back into lifting after a five year hiatus - this channel being a big reason to start again!

[@TheBroseAm]

This was so helpful. My friends have starting using and I was considering it. Thanks to this video I'll keep training and stop trying to compare myself to them

[@JoshBenware]

Keep in mind what will happen when your friends eventually have to come off it. They will shrink dramatically, and you will look way better. Trust me, I've been lifting for a long time. I've seen monsters come off and look like they barely lift. Plus, they never get the motivation back to build muscle naturally due to the fact that they've seen easy gains and their test is crashed. Natural gains are loyal gains, and even when you have periods of off time from the gym, you get it back quickly. Not so for the enhanced that try to go back to natty.

[@hachimaru295]

@@JoshBenware what a phrase ! "Natural gains are loyal gains"

[@JoshBenware]

@@hachimaru295 I heard it from Chris Jones

[@Savage-hc2vj]

Best video I’ve seen on this account. You guys are far and away among the best fitness people in the business. Thank you.

[@mattb9371]

Great video….I’m in the older camp. I’m 56 yo and started watching this channel last year, when I decided to make a change. I have taken close to 15 years off of exercise and nutrition…i was a mess. I wrestled in HS, competed in nearly 100 triathlons, including Ironman in HI, but due to wearing out my knees I just burned out..hence the 15 yr hiatus….Fast forward to last year where I decided to make a change. Starting at 221lbs and 30% BF…through this channel, and mental toughness today I am 178lbs, and 15.5% BF….I am a completely different person today. I refound my love of the gym, nutrition, dry heat sauna. I still struggle with sleep…but this new lifestyle is something my wife and I love…we go to the gym together and it has become our way of life now…i owe a great deal of gratitude to you Jeff and this channel! Thank you!

[@manuelmatias3281]

I was a little down on myself because I thought I was a hard gainer. Then I found out most of the people I was looking up to gains-wise were juicing. It actually made me feel better about myself and encouraged me to compete only with me! Since then I haven't been more focused and now I'm proud of what I see in the mirror. I appreciate your perspective on fitness. 👍🏾💪🏾 Blessings

[@metarugia3981]

"I was a little down on myself because I thought I was a hard gainer." You are in club majority, with all the naturals. Be the best version of yourself, not what you see in others.👍

[@stephengrieco5839]

Jeff and Jessie, thank you so much for this video. I am only one year older than Jeff and too have shared a similar path from bad nutrition as a kid to lifting since I was 14. I have always wanted to compete but that door closes more and more as I refuse to use PED’s, not just for my own health but as a role model for my kids. The sport and art form of bodybuilding is being destroyed. This year I turn 50 I still work out religiously. It takes HARD WORK AND DEDICATION. At this point I am happy to know that most people do not look like me at 50 but I still wish we had a legitimate platform to celebrate and share our TRULY NATURAL successes. I would love to say more but for now. Thank you both again for always saying what no one else has the guts to say.

[@MrRich710]

Congrats on your success Stephen. A suggestion... if you really want to compete, why not see if there are other guys who feel the same way and start something informal and simple just to scratch that itch? I bet there are more guys like you who feel similarly. It just takes one person with the willingness to get that ball rolling. Who knows, over time you may end up being the guy who started a new organization for truly natural bodybuilders?

[@Mehdisme]

From the first day i encountered your videos to this day,you have been nothing but helpful.I no longer have grueling shoulder pain.I train smarter and i feel better about myself.at the gym i tell everybody that Jeff is my coach 😂.Jesse is also an inspiration to me with his down to earth manners and positive energy.i am thankful to both of you guys.

[@edkarljr]

Thanks gentlemen. I started at 49. I'm not 54. I've been working on nailing my diet and training along the way with occasionally watching you guys. I appreciate your video. You are right. I may not be impressive to many people, but I am impressed with the improvements that I have made along the way. I also realize that I need to live with the bad decisions I made in my younger years and not compound it with a new bad decision of using PEDs to try and "catch up".

[@marcosminlletes7655]

I’m 22 and I’ve been lifting since I was 16. Jeff you have helped me understand the foundations of exercise and really helped me understand what it means to workout. To have people my age turn to enhancements, when we have the edge of age, is sad to see because we have the most potential for growth. I have my dream physique currently and I could never understand why I would need more. What we have currently is greed in this world and these shitfluencers are spreading this principe of taking short cuts and having to much in such a short period of time.

[@bovv8940]

That's it. And that's all.

[@paulgormley4443]

I started training in my 40s after suffering from arthritis since my teens and not thinking weight lifting was possible for me. Turns out when done safely it’s the best thing I can do and I’m now in the best shape of my life. Aesthetically I’m still miles off where I want to be but every week I do an extra rep or two or add a little more weight and I know the results will follow. As long as you can better yourself that’s all that counts. Great video as per usual.

[@UgowestLx]

Nice, it is very cool to see you guys stand for good health, goals and having fun while working out. Ty

[@Sean-vr8jg]

One of the best videos you guys have done yet. Great topic and perfect heart felt opinion backed by knowledge.

[@misterbeach8826]

We should talk more about the bronze era. Those were all natural because synth testosterone was not invented yet. I was once an athlete, but I started, after a 15-year-long sports break, powerlifting at the age of 40. All natural. My testosterone levels skyrocketed soon. 1.5 h per day, 12 months later, I lift 200 kg with ease. Probably because I had the athlete confidence from my youth. I recall a moment at the beginning: My first fitness trainer asked me how I felt about my belly fat (88 kg, 182 cm). I joked. It meant nothing to me because I was bulking, eating even more, while training hard, knowing that I would need that mass for new muscle. And I got slowly but steadily stronger and in shape. So, I believe that this is the key: If you know from experience what it takes to build strength and mass, well, you are kind of relaxed.

[@drewcate]

43 years old and been lifting since around age 16, much like Jeff. I was self-taught and learned from friends or others at the gym over the years. Never touched PED’s and never will, but I always felt small/skinny/lean compared to others and despite lifting consistently for decades, never saw much gains. If I were a teen/20-something in this day and age, I could totally see how I might really be tempted to try PEDs. It’s everywhere and social media is super toxic. I was young and impressionable back in the day and it would be something really hard to resist. However, knowing what I know now about training (largely thanks to Jeff) I’ve seen the most gains in my 40’s by changing the way I train and paying close attention to nutrition. While it may be hard not to compare yourself to others at gym or on social media, we need to constantly remind ourselves and others, it’s truly all about our own personal journeys. Train hard, eat well, be consistent and dedicated, and the gains will come.

[@aicre8customs223]

I thank u Jeff and Jessie for staying the natural path and also thru your videos, I resumed exercising after more than a decade of pausing (business went up, money coming in, then years after, lost everything) Come 2019 - 2020, I decided to revive my dead exercise regimen, and after 3 years of regular consistent exercise, I'm a 50yr old dude (now into 3D modeling and animation) that everyone says I look 41-ish. Keep on inspiring us mere mortals and walking the straight and narrow, yet sure and safe path to health and fitness. God Bless u both and your team . 🤩

[@Badsby]

I’m old (43), new lifter, but naturally doing it. I’m fine with going slow. Love seeing the change over time. Learned a lot here, thanks for the vids.

[@robbob98]

52 years old, following your KZbin content/programs and I'm packing on muscle consistently (without any PEDs)... I now have visible lats and traps as well as biceps beginning to have nice peaks and my chest development has never been better... thanks for all you do for us Jeff!

[@JIMGRAYDARKROOM]

I agree with you @robbob98 . I'm 66. I'm Lean, low body fat, 6' tall , staying between 155 and 160 lbs. Visible Muscle in all areas. Started following Jeff's program less than a Year ago. * lost 30 lbs. of Covid TV fat. *Feel GREAT ! NO DRUGS

[@patrickcheesman]

I started lifting at 22. I’m 30 now. Might not look like it, but I’ve seen serious results. Never once considered PEDs. I’m happy being in the 170 range. I’m happy with the work

[@cwmoo]

tbh I like blending in and not looking like a gym bro when I have my office clothes on. I just look like a normal person. But women have commented on how hard my muscles feel and how strong I am. the natural athlete look and lifestyle is great, I feel great, I have no desire to take any PEDs. I'm happy slowly progressing my squat and deadlift numbers and slowly improving my 5k and 10k times and feeling great throughout the whole process. I'm never going to be a bodybuilder or professional athlete or even the fastest club runner but I'm happier just being fit and working on myself at my pace.

[@TheSquall1525]

Hey Jeff and Jesse, Great presentation, info, and support! The compulsion to compare to others is so strong. It is good to hear that a stronger feeling of internal success can be achieved through hard progressive work.

[@Pebbles456456]

Excellent video guys, and I’ve watched them all. The overall message is about becoming the best version of you, not someone else. Thank you for your sharing of knowledge and good advice. I started consistently training at 51.

[@ryukirito2616]

I’m a Natty and I’m bigger than even the younger guys in the gym. It’s all about putting in that effort! Just like anything it takes time! And you’ll be more impressed once you get there by the work you put in!

[@bobreece8462]

Same here. Im 42 this year, all natural. I’m more cut than I was during my late 20s and 30s and out lift the vast majority of younger guys at my gym. Like you said, train smarter, work harder sleep well.

[@ryukirito2616]

@@bobreece8462 Good on you bro! Yup smart training, eat healthy, lots of sleep, and stay away from things like sugar.

[@kry0-c00per2]

I have only ever built muscle clean, i also have been on and off lifting due to life, work, and ranching. But my point is even not being super big, there has been a lot of people to complement me on my size and tone. Just turned 28, I weight 195-200 6.0ft with 12-14% BMI for reference. Started just only doin pull ups at 12 for three years.

[@VipR25]

I can appreciate this. A lot of people fall into that trap and always want more as we age which is good but to a point. For myself even in my late 30s, I have to battle injury and physical therapy now and then from lifting and the mindset very quickly changes when you see what some of those things do permanently. I had to learn that. Shout out from Southbury, not too far from Milford

[@firstaccount888]

Gentlemen, I have to say this is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on KZbin on any subject. I can only hope the people you’re trying to speak to actually watch it but the comments not just on Health, but on life were fantastic. My only disagreement if you called people “old“ And then referenced 40. Man I’m 51 so it hurts to hear you say that! I worked out in the gym when I was in my late teens and early 20s but then didn’t get back into the gym for more than 20 years. I just started back, about a year and a half ago almost 2 years. I’m completely natural I think the most important thing I would suggest for people like me is to take periodic measurements. The changes and gains come so slowly that even though you can see you’re lifting more weight it’s hard to see the difference on your body. But when I go back over the last two years worth of measurements. I realize how dramatic the change has been. So even starting just before 50 the potential to make dramatic changes in your body is still there 100%.

[@tpecca1995]

I just turned 98. I’ve started working out for about a week ago. I hope I’ll be able to go on for long years. Thank you for encouragement

[@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607]

I've been natural all my life, and struggled with putting on muscle and removing fat, but I've always had a large frame (short and stout). It wasn't until I got my food intake under control and started exercising on a normal basis that I finally started hitting my goals. Then in 2020 I got hit with rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 35, and I lost a lot of strength and motivation and realized that though my diet was better it was far from great. I continue to push through the RA and have completely changed my diet to reduce the immunity response and though it isn't perfect, I've regained a lot of my strength and movement and am currently doing yoga and weight lifting and taekwondo and I'm almost to blue belt. It's been a long journey and while steroids would help with RA, I believe that I can work through it and regain my health and my movement. The trials have been great, but they've reinforced my faith and my determination.

[@KinevW]

Inspiring stuff! Keep up the great work - sounds like your efforts are paying dividends.

[@A_Swier7]

I 100% love this channel and agree stop comparing to other focus on individual growth body building is essentially sculpting ones own body and putting in the hard work and it does pay off it comes over time appreciate the process much of what your channel has been beneficial to my gains and progression so thank you!

[@br0die1]

Jeff, Jesse, thank you's for always promoting good work ethic and realistic advise. I can personally say with your training program (old school iron)(my favorite in this current stage of my life) i have made significant improvements in strength and in appearance. And you have always motivated me to better myself!.sad thing is what your saying is true there is such a huge spike in people using peds while you might not even be aware... I also try and pass the positivity of whats achievable with some honest effort and time. Thanks again guys!

[@dabsafe]

66 year old and the only supplement I take is creatine and doing just fine. As much muscle as I had when I was 35? No, but as I’ve had many comment, pretty impressive. 😎🇨🇦🥊

[@R-Lee-]

But you're Canadian

[@Grabthar191]

@@R-Lee- People have overcome that horrible condition though. :P

[@dabsafe]

@@R-Lee- And damned proud of it!

[@waynevenables8176]

@@dabsafegood for you. The other two can kiss my ads !

[@waynevenables8176]

Ass

[@GrannySingaporePVP]

I’d love to know Jeff’s opinion on people like me, who due to medical reasons (I’m an addict in recovery - 8 years clean) my testosterone production was all but killed off. I started TRT last year. When I had my original blood work done, my teat level was 108. So I truly believe that I legitimately NEED the TRT, as it allows me to live my life without dealing with all of the extreme side effects of having nearly zero testosterone. Edit: Nevermind. He answered my question at 18:11

[@andrejadojcinovic7497]

I'm 20, have been very active a few years ago but during covid there were some complications that made me unable to do anything in the gym and I had to pause for over a year. It's been slow ngl but your videos and Jessie's transformation are the things that kept me excited about going back and working out again. I'm on month 2 already and have seen some progress, hopefully there wont be any pauses but yeah haha Love what you do. Thank you both for being great role models :)

[@juliandebono1406]

Thank you Jeff I appreciate your channel & knowledge. I have watched and followed your channel since 2015. It was a year when my midlife crises peaked. The new friends were not good. I was physically abused and it was not something I was used to and couldn’t protect myself. Following your tutorial gave me the best physique in shoulders and arms. I ever had before that my legs were always good being a natural sprinter. So the work on leg day enhanced what was already there. Not once did I consider any form of PED. Your program and instructions on correct lifting techniques, rest periods and targeted specific muscle groups. Helped save my life and dignity. The bully tried again and this time through the strength of one palm to the chest. I said back off. He flew backwards and never bullied me again. During pandemic I stopped exercising. This year I had a mini stroke. I’m now ready to start exercising again and your program is the only one I will use at 63 I am confident I shall be looking good not massive but definition and strength. Thank you for caring for the male population.💪🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@kittenluvzu]

Knew an old time boxer who went to the nursing home. Another older “gentleman” kept trying to take his chair. One day the boxer knocked the guy into next Tuesday. Problem solved. Bullies really suck.

[@juliandebono1406]

@@kittenluvzu thank you 🙏🏾

[@4foxs8ke]

I’m 36 years old and served 10 years in the Army. I’ve been making changes and seeing results. Stopped drinking a year ago and that alone has pushed me in the best way. Where I’m at now is thanks to you Jeff. Almost exclusively watch your videos for workouts. My thoughts are if you need a drug to achieve it, probably ain’t worth it. I’ve never had a six pack and that’s my goal for now. I figure I’ll get there eventually if I keep working at it. Thanks for what you do.

[@drewster-vh8su]

How'd ya quit drinking altogether?

[@4foxs8ke]

@@drewster-vh8su I tried and failed for a few months(years really). Started by controlling how much I bought at the store. Then I avoided everybody and stopped going to places where I would have access to booze. I didn’t tell anyone that I stopped drinking until a few months sober. After the weight started falling off after 2-3 months and my face de-aged the motivation to stay sober strengthened. I still can’t be around people doing shots because my hands will start sweating and urge to drink comes on something fierce. After 8 months my head felt like it cleared up and things became a little easier. But I never let myself think I can handle even one drink no matter what I tell myself. I leaned heavy on my hobbies (books, games and working out) If your struggling. Never give up trying. Don’t compare yourself to others, compare yourself to who you were yesterday and if it’s even a little better it’s progress. Forgive yourself but don’t make excuses. Avoid people that enable you, at least until your strong enough to say no because enablers are everywhere. I apologize if this was a little much. Being a 36 year old who hadn’t been a year sober for 26 years.. I ramble a bit. You can do it and do it for you.

[@CarbonGearSolid]

As a natural fitness guy and certified personal trainer, I love this video. It's realistic and straight to the point.

[@MrSinister718]

I don't get it. The risks are not that major unless someone goes overboard and doesn't cycle or ever come off them.

[@nothanks5520]

risk of heart failure is a big one for me so nah@@MrSinister718

[@TheLandscaper0115]

Great work mates. Thanks for the positive and self-affirmating content. Thanks for for all your hard and honest work.

[@GM-lq4eu]

Hey Jeff, I really enjoy your channel, I’m 51 years old and have been working out for a lot of years, but not quite as consistent going to the gym as I would like these days. But during Covid, your at home 10 min series of work outs have been great and has given me some incentive to be able to still get a good work out at home. I actually live in the walnut beach area in Milford, so I know where you are talking about, I used to go the Worlds gym in Milford many moons ago. Keep up with the good information 💪

[@jimhaus]

Just turned 47. Started 3 or 4 months ago. Got my nutrition locked in FIRST, started lifting AFTER. Learned all I know from Jeff. I am really proud of the progress I've made without enhancement. I've been shocked by how fast progressive overload can go, even being a natural lifter. It just seems like commitment is the rarest currency on the planet, why work when there's a pill? I'm doing recomp stuff, not a hard gainer. Seeing changes in the mirror and not so much on the scale. Train exclusively at home to avoid gym-bros, I don't need any of that! Get good feedback from friends, sure, but it doesn't matter. This is for ME. Thank you, Jeff and Jesse.

[@jimhaus]

I've also got a long history in healthcare. I find the realities of putting unneccessary crap in my body terrifying. I can't believe so many people are doing that.

[@JulioLopez-rj6ik]

Como siempre Jeff muy buenos videos ojalá pusieran subtitulo en español

[@jamoncillo]

Ojalá pudieras aprender inglés

[@QuincyKane]

This is an important topic; thanks for sharing your insights about it!

[@harryv6752]

I'm in my mid 40s. Started training again just 3 months ago, after over 5 years off. Dropped about 30lbs, got leaner, still able to build muscle, got stronger, while also increasing my power, endurance, and overall athletic performance, all naturally and without much supps (with protein powder being the only supps that I consume). All my training now is solely for functional fitness and functional strength. Train hard. Train smart. Eat right. And sleep right. And many thanks to Athlean X for providing such great and priceless information and knowledge on how to do these things optimally. Much love n respect! 🤘

[@birdhunterIII]

Jeff, great video per usual. As a guy in that 50+ age range still trying to push the limits of my conditioning and doing it naturally you have to consider as you age do you really want to start supplementing with TRT, etc. because neurologically your slowly but definitely signaling to your brain that it no longer needs to continue producing testosterone on its own. You do reach a point of no return the longer you supplement this way. And, unfortunately not all prescribing medical professionals are transparent with their patients regarding this topic. As time goes on and this topic gets more heavily researched it would not surprise me if the "safe" administration of unnecessary TRT supplementation does more harm than good in the mid to long term equation. Maybe I'm wrong but most medications and medical supplements should be left in the medically necessary category not vanity category. There's a reason why employers don't recommend cocaine as a recreational supplement to get their employees to be more productive. I realize this is a bad example but you get where I'm going. I'm a user of a couple of different training programs of yours over the last couple of years and avid listener to your channel. I really appreciate the knowledge you put out their for free. You have definitely helped change the way I train, recover, and work around injuries for the better. Thank you!

[@JMR7Six]

I'll be 47 tomorrow and I really just started taking exercise/training seriously this year. I've added about a half inch to my forearms and upper arms and I can do thumbs up pushups now after doing some of the Xero program. Honestly, it's a little discouraging to think that I won't get to a level that I'd like to be at, but at the same time I'm really proud of how far I've come this year and how well I've stuck to it. While I am looking forward to a better physique, I really like getting better at the exercises I'm doing and being able to move better. Thanks for the inspiration guys, especially you, Jesse!

[@MrAdam-dh6kx]

Great video, Jeff. Thanks man. Keep up the great work.

[@Killadey]

Brilliant video chaps, your wisdom is always worth listening to.

[@fromfattofit7]

Thats why my channel is just showing my progress and what im doing. Its more about inspiring others like me (started at 45% body fat and ow down to 27%) who are bigger to lose the weight and recommendations on how I've done it. You guys have been a huge influence on what im doing and i appreciate the content.

[@appaccount7203]

Good for you bro, keep it up!

[@fromfattofit7]

Thanks man. Much appreciated.

[@tommymack3210]

Thats great, keep it up man! You are awesome

[@fromfattofit7]

Thanks! Appreciate it.

[@CarnivorePaul]

Never compare yourself to steroid celebs, I compare myself to natural athletes like The rock and Mike O'hearn

[@user-qj8bu2rt5m]

I can’t express my gratitude for all you do 😊 Thank you so much for the hard work 🙏

[@JesusPerez-dx6dt]

I have been lifting for 3 years I started at 53 and I'm 56 years now. I'm 100 natural I will never compete but I'm in the best shape of my life. The whole trick is being consistent... Great video. There is really no need for peds.

[@HoliGallistur1023]

❌ Myth Busters ✅ Gym Busters

[@Jucyb0x]

It is really concerning this tren(d)

[@davidbushell70]

Brilliant..! Much needed conversation. Thanks

[@robsheridanrobert]

Other aspects to be aware of are people’s lifestyle choices, genetics, nutrition, recovery, frequency. An excellent breakdown Jeff. I’m now 45 (training for 20+yrs) enough to know that I need to make subtle adjustments to my training however my main baseline for comparison is me. I’m delighted that after 4 kids, busy job, I’m still dedicated naturally.