You got lucky. - NG++ Ending Boss Dialogue | AC 6

[@TheLadyGrimm]

I genuinely feel kinda bad for Iguazu. Man spent years trying to prove himself, and while he *does* have actual, genuine talent, he's just too eager to cut his losses and bail when he thinks he's out of his league. But then he sees you, this no-name independent from the same generation as him and he sees nothing but his failures. He looks at Raven and sees nothing but how his excuses aren't excuses at all, just failings on his own part. He sees you climb the wall where he couldn't, where his friend died. He sees you defeat the Worm and earn Michigan's respect where he couldn't. He sees you come from nothing, a no-name merc that ends up becoming one of the dominant factors on the entire planet for good or ill. And he thinks "That could have been me. That *should* have been me." Iguazu is a Gen 4 just like Raven. When he's asking "What makes you special?!" he's not just asking why you're the protagonist, he's also asking why he couldn't have flown as high as you did when on paper, he's the same as you. I feel like Iguazu hates himself almost as much as he hates you. He might hate you *because* he hates himself so much.

[@zacharyperlee4179]

yeah, it feels sort of a relfection of how someone who has their own failings and success come across someone who's just...... naturally better at everything than Iguazu is he's whiney, he's a ass, and spiteful as hell, but that's what makes him human, and everyone looks at us as either sub-human, or more than just "a Human", like a symbol, or potential for the next evolution. he just saw us as the better human, someone he thinks got lucky at something to be able to do the shit they do now, and it pushes him to work towards destroying us, showing us and himself that even the most capable 4th gen pilot had their failings, and to ultimately prove to himself he was worth something. in the end, it was his downfall, but he truely feels human with how the spite drives him, how it comes from his own insecurites, how he lets it destroy his own life for his ultimately meaningless goal. it truely feels like he's a good chance of what 621 had a chance of becoming if their circumstances were slightly different, if they landed in the hands of a corpo, or was less skilled, or simply never got the chance to take a really notable mission

[@mc-zb1mx]

Michigan did respect him

[@zeroshift24]

and his last words to end his tragic story : "i always envied you.... the freelancer who had it all."

[@hypnobraicracksalesman3028]

Omg, he just like me. He just like me fr.

[@zeroshift24]

@@mc-zb1mx yes, when Red Guns were talking shit about Iguazu, Michigan retorted with "Iguazu is worth a hundred of you"

[@stuff1044]

Iguazu could have been an absolute menace if he just wasn't so Jealous and Insecure

[@wind_traveler]

Maybe he’s jealous and insecure because he’s not an absolute menace.

[@FlickTakFlakAttack]

He already is a menace, just not to 621

[@Crap_A.I_bird]

Thats the point of his character tho, a petty dick who wouldn't leave you the fuck alone till you died

[@kabob0077]

[@skellymen2395]

His jealousy and insecurity is the only reason he made it so far

[@Meckell]

"I always envied you. The freelancer who had it all." 621 was "inventory" in a human sous vide bag getting pulled out of cold storage shortly before the game started, first encountered Iguazu on the dam mission where 621 was regarded as some nobody to be babysat and only present because Michigan and Walter know each other, and has probably never met Iguazu face to face outside of their mechs. Iguazu's been out there making up an imaginary version of 621 to get mad at. He's some type of guy, alright.

[@heifs]

621 was Introduced as an "Independent mercenary" and with the callsign "Raven", he had no idea 621 was just a tool bought at a discount. But he knows that after the Dam mission, he gained recognition from G1 Michigan, something that Iguazu felt hard because he's been trying to prove himself to G1 for over 7 years, then this guy shows up and now everyone talks about him, he also lost his friend G4 volta trying to take the wall. He knows the legend of Raven, the wall climber, the worm killer and he remembers he was a nobody just like him

[@klis5996]

I believe they are also both the same line of augmented human, which adds to his jealousy

[@baval5]

You misunderstand. Iguazu doesnt think 621 "had it all" like he was some high roller living the good life. He understands that 621 is also a mercenary. But 621 has the skills, the luck, the connections, and the mental stability Iguazu doesnt. Hes always in the right place at the right time with the right skills to get the job done and make everyone love him. Iguazu is some poor gambler stuck paying off his debts to a guy who seems to not give a damn about him and mocks him and shouts at him every day, but Michigan seems to repsect 621 for some reason and never gives him shit, even when youre both on the same mission. Its understandable why Iguazu was jealous.

[@jaygei_2641]

​@baval5 God, if only Iguazu managed to read Volta's last message, maybe he would've stuck around the RedGuns a bit longer

[@zjuraeventide8949]

​@@baval5 Despite Michigan talking down to Iguazu and Volta on mission, if you decide to assassinate Michigan it's revealed that he actually respects Iguazu quite a lot. Even after deserting the Redguns, Michigan still respects Iguazu to defend Iguazu's name when the Balam MT squad starts dissing him. 621's also in the same position Iguazu's in. The reason 621 had augmentation done on him was due to landing in a lot of debt. It's why Walter keeps promksing that finding the Coral will help 621 buy back his freedom and hopefully reverse the surgery done on him.

[@Did_No_Wrong]

Ironically he was the only one comparing himself to 621, Even after Iguazu left Red Guns Michigan was still defending him.

[@teacupbirb4711]

"G5 is worth 5 of you." Michigan a real one.

[@roguewolf8545]

@@teacupbirb4711 ”iguazu is worth a hundred of you, which means Albany, the merc is worth 20 of him”. -G1 “Hell On Four Legs” Michigan

[@teacupbirb4711]

@@roguewolf8545 My bad. Been a bit since I did the Redguns mission. Plus, my memory is kind of lacking nowadays.

[@roguewolf8545]

@@teacupbirb4711 sorry for making seem like I was attacking you, I just really like the quote and wanted to take the opportunity to post it.

[@teacupbirb4711]

@@roguewolf8545 Don't worry about it, mate.

[@KingDugan]

I love that Iguazu overcame the contol of a powerful AI with pure, unadulterated salt.

[@scalesthecobra9685]

Bro was so damn mad at everything around him that even the AI was like “Bro WTF-“

[@QuangLe-ob3lw]

Bro literally go mad with new tech but still lose due to “skill issue”

[@trust6545]

I love how allmind is actually holding iguazu back in this fight. The moment he takes full control he immediately starts hitting 621 with new moves like he already knew them. He controls the modified Ibis machine with a grace and ferocity unseen in the first phase. Not to mention mind gamma is just straight up iguazu’s original ac build upgraded. So he clearly had the skills and function to be a high ranker only thing holding him back was his mental condition and fears.

[@durrblah]

I like it in phase 2.5, iquazu gets better sound quality when he syncs with 621.

[@thisisabackupemail2264]

Yeah, he talks about the ringing and interference. He literally has his 'main character' moment where he overpowers ALLMIND and Ayre to nullify the Coral Contact. Granted, at that point he's also sort of 'Coral' himself, but he's a single wave. He's not trying to scream against the entire ocean, you feel me? Two waves clashing against each other. Best way I can describe it is Ahsoka Ep. 5 where they listen to the waves and hear the undercurrent and how it sounds like lightsabers clashing.

[@TRD6932]

It's also in phase 1 ("Who else will you kill?"), he sounded like a male ALLMIND when his voice cleared up.

[@care8071]

Iguazu's, "I know how this goes. This is where that grit of yours kicks in." Is really nice. All those times he has fought us up to now, he really came to know the way we fight with such intimacy.

[@strauss777]

For a game that has characters with no faces, the emotional impact that just voices alone have is simply amazing. Both the English and Japanese VA's did a phenomenal job IMO, and no matter which one you pick for a playthrough they both hit hard.

[@onyx9935]

I love how their voices begin to mix together at some points, reminds me of nineball with iguazu as hustler one and allmind/Kate as the nest member

[@onyx9935]

Also with the parallel of them attempting one final attack before losing their arm

[@HK-07]

4:25 he briefly channeled his inner Michigan

[@Broken_Savior]

His hate boner for Six-Two-One is almost remarkable. It is the source of his entire power.

[@metalgearexcelsus]

It also powers his IB-07 AND Sea Spiders. That's some Gurren Lagann shit gone wrong.

[@wind_traveler]

Was I the only one who burst out laughing when I got to the super, secret, final boss and it turned out to be that salty Red Gun that I’d already folded like 5 times?

[@SHADE-EYE]

Same here. Just went "??? Say what dawg" 😭 Genuinely hysterical how random this was lol

[@erieriderschillingcorner1595]

Yeah i just went "oh no HIM AGAIN?" This was tottaly something i was not expecting

[@Master_Matoya]

Even funnier when you find out the reason he's here is because it's his Salty Ass that's powering the SOL unit in Phase 2.

[@apophis7712]

Him working with ALLMIND was pretty foreshadowed. In the briefing for the mission to kill O'Keefe, they show that there are two gen 4 candidates. The only other gen 4 candidate we knew of was Iguazu. There's also the fact that when Iguazu attacks you in Depth 2 and Institute City, his AC has been modified with ALLMIND parts, meaning he was working with them for a while already.

[@KingDugan]

@@Master_Matoya He literally overpowered the will of an advanced AI with nothing but pure salt. There is a part of me that is amazed at his sheer pettiness.

[@Jah-oe7fm]

Having a 00001 health and not being dead should be an achievement

[@SeiaiAnkoku]

Terminal Armor core expansion leaves your AC with 1 AP.

[@Suimega]

I don't know precisely why I found Iguazu so touching, I just have a soft spot for chronic losers like him. In a world full of dangerous foes and pushovers acting like they're a menace, you get this guy who's just doing his best and yearns for glory while constantly being set up by the story to be the butt of the joke. He's like Gilgamesh in FF5, or Biggs and Wedge in FF8, comic reliefs that lighten up the atmosphere, except he genuinely suffers from it, and gets a complete life crisis from encountering 621. Worsened by the fact they both are from the same generation of augmented humans. From all the characters in AC6, he's the only one you really get to pity, and that made him grow on me. You can't help but root for this guy, he's got that complete underdog energy. And the most exciting thing with underdogs is when they finally get their minute of glory, their payback time, their instant of redemption, going up in flames before dying for good. Man I love Iguazu.

[@CoolDude5633554]

“Once something’s alive, it doesn’t die easy.”

[@Lrn2playgames]

I really respect the time it takes to put these together. Nicely done and thank you!

[@N1GHTSTRIKER-45]

The Only Reason Iguazu Lost Is That He Isn't Hating Enough On 621 Like Kendrick Lamar To Drake 💀💀

[@ThePteropterus]

Hey! So I commented the other day about how these videos help with sensory issues. Today I was struggling with this fight and, emboldened by the assurance of your videos, I just turned voice volume to 0 and subtitles off. I beat it on my next attempt! Unfortunately, I didn't hear the cutscene dialogue either, but that's why I'm here! So, Thanks Again!

[@BullDeerAryu_]

There’s another comment saying something about ALLMIND calling iguana useless - the timestamp for that is 5:28

[@ultimateqmazing2537]

"ILL SEE YOU IN HELL!" "Save a spot for me." -Jango Fett at the end of his final Duel with Montross

[@joewas2225]

"I'll kill you AND the freelancer" Iguazu, you just signed your death warrant.

[@metalgearexcelsus]

To be fair, he's already dead.

[@bakerhitch5856]

The HC-2000/BC Shade Eye is the best looking head component.

[@HiroyaFujimiya]

It even has special animation when on Lock on and Lock Off state.

[@teacupbirb4711]

Fair opinion. However, I'm more a fan of the Nachtreiher head piece.

[@Warsm1th12]

@@HiroyaFujimiya it also does that when you Boost

[@person906]

Im an Alba guy myself. Shade eye is super cool tho.

[@marksmanmerc1]

Nah, the patlabor looking one sulla uses is the best. That one's cool but i wish the eyes glowed brighter before the visor comes down.

[@tristancrowe9834]

The music in this whole sequence was just phenomenal.

[@bennemeth625]

Iguazu really is the Jerid Messa of AC6.

[@kevingame3198]

More like J from verdict day

[@metalgearexcelsus]

@@kevingame3198 more like Stinger and Evangel from old-gen. Or Crimson 1 from Project Wingman.

[@hardyboy7408]

I was ready to Go down with him when he lunged at me strictly because I respected his struggle.

[@vergiltheartofpower6616]

So he became a single wave of coral

[@kekington2245]

Your AC looks so sick !!

[@ougioshino6940]

Iguana blocked allmind through pure hate lmao

[@PlantainSupernova]

Not sure if this is a thing, but are there lines for mirroring your opponents ACs? As in using their exact parts or even loading the same data from the arena for missions where you sortie together or go against?

[@rgm96x49]

There are, yes.

[@PlantainSupernova]

Oh cool, time to do so mirror matches in mission select.

[@dizzykrogan]

I’ve been trying to figure out whose voice says “who else are going to kill?”.

[@fusioncell7669]

It's still Iguazu. the voice filter just changes for that part.

[@Timebomb_19]

It’s the voices inside of iguazu/Allmind. Allmind combined the psyches of different mercenaries into the ultimate A/C, many of those psyches belonging to the people we killed.

[@rjzero00]

That a beautiful color scheme. Can you share the paint edit numbers?

[@Ghaltouni]

Iguazu is a League of Legends player

[@willthemann3768]

Bro thinks he’s Crimson 1

[@justasimplegamer129]

Next up first 1V1 with Rusty in Unknown territory survey. Includes the alt. Version, theres also a line thats quite hard to achieve (in my experience) if you can defeat rusty before Flatwell comes in

[@diurnalwinter945]

Why does Flatwell side with Rusty? What was his connection with Rusty?

[@justasimplegamer129]

@@diurnalwinter945 Hint Uncle

[@calluminati2426]

​@diurnalwinter945 rusty is an RLF spy

[@akirandrake414]

Is that a laser claw?! I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!

[@Takamiya_Mio]

Iguazu, truely the man of 'Skill Issue' who need to just 'git gud'

[@todd3143]

well, that’s one way to treat schizophrenia

[@logangant7732]

Absolute cinema

[@alasdaresineaeris2772]

Iguazu referred to 621 as the "stray dog" in the Japanese version. With he himself being a dog of war, "freelancer" to me is a bit of an odd word choice for adaptation.

[@tango5thetargeted73]

True, its weird iguazu still calling 621 that

[@turtle3527]

Eh it’s the opposite for me. I don’t know if he seemed more into the fact that he was a redgun in the Japanese version but in the English version he definitely gave off the vibe that couldn’t care less about being a redgun and only sometimes treated it like he was part of special club to gloat over others. In that sense calling 621 “freelancer” makes more sense as it sounds like he’s trying to brag that 621 isn’t part of the in crowd. Michigan felt more like the dog of war type even if he never explicitly said that. The dog analogy works better for snail I feel where he repeatedly calls us “mutt” like a low pedigree breed. Not to mention it sort of feeds into the meme that 621 is called something different by every group or person.

[@person906]

​​​@@turtle3527 I also prefer "freelancer" over "stray dog" but Iguazu definitely had some pride in being a Redgun, he does indeed only bring it up once to spite us/621 but he wouldnt use being in the Redguns as a way to claim superiority if he thought the title was worthless. I think he becomes disillusioned of the Redguns after we take the wall. Personally I think he deserted after Volta died rather than before.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

I love Petty Queen Iguazu. 🖤 He makes me feel like I have a jealous little brother. I'm not even mad at him. He's just cute.

[@thecheeseblock9880]

3:30 are those kojima particles????????

[@metalgearexcelsus]

By all means, no. Also: in cut dialouge, ALLMIND says that brainwaves can function much the same as the Coral, so that's probably the radiance of Iguazu's salt.

[@josedorsaith5261]

Ew

[@Timebomb_19]

Could be a reference

[@m-a-t129]

Hey can i get the source for your pfp thanks

[@franklang4337]

The biggest hater on Rubicon 3

[@flarex10]

.... I'll always hate Iguazu. he is the worst AC in the game that I've fought. I would rather have rummy and mad stomp as my rival. Story wise I'm sure Iguazu is great, game play wise, I'm mad allmind pick him over me. It should of been me!! she would of only needed to pay me 100 bucks / credits! really though, his AC build is really bad. (how he uses his build equally just as bad) YUGIOH voice meme: IT SHOULD OF BEEN ME!!

[@poweredbythemakyostar8896]

Now you see how he feels he's basically fighting a god we get unlimited retrys but if he dies once its over

[@reallysadweeb4454]

The littlest hater

[@L0rdLexan01]

i expected a few things from this fight but ALLMIND telling Iguazu he was a fucking mistake is the top of the line for me.

[@MaidenlessScrub]

She realised that she made a mistake choosing him to fight us lmao. But I guess she didn't have a choice. He was the only one she could manipulate due to their common interest of killing us

[@sdbzfan1]

@@MaidenlessScrub not just that he's the only one left compatible, the only others were Suila and O'Keefe and they're dead and or didnt wanna join allmind

[@longloco1]

The you were a mistale legit got me killed because I crqcked ip

[@swtrooper42]

I actually laughed when that came up during the fight.

[@jaygei_2641]

Honestly, I gotta respect Iguazu at this point. He managed to control an amalgamation of hundreds of other pilots and a super intelligent AI by sheer pettiness

[@theguyyouleastexpect]

Seeing Carla AND Walter’s remains just scattered in the cutscene was just grim. That just made me feel like shit could not get any worse.

[@Grayeques]

Especially when you look at both torsos and realize Allmind gouged out where the cockpit would be.

[@topjos12]

Where are the remains in the cutscene? I don't think I caught it

[@theguyyouleastexpect]

​@@topjos12I believe at 0:14, that's the torso of Carla's AC. 0:20, we see Walter who is veeeeery dead. I vaguely remember someone mentioning how ALLMIND made sure to decimate the cockpits. Yeesh.

[@evanhunt1863]

@@theguyyouleastexpect Walter's AC - specially, the *goddamn Institute-made weapon* that he fought us with in Liberator - is fucking *headless.* That drives home how screwed things are at this point.

[@sentientmustache8360]

My heart sank when i saw that, especially because my AC shares Walter’s torso

[@QuestionableObject]

When Iguana did his final lunge when I finally killed him I was legitimately scared because I was on TWENTY ONE HP

[@陳柏睿-r6g]

Me too.

[@darkarconkris]

I tried to back dash out of instinct and fear

[@korpsmaninfantry7238]

Same, I back dashed and started mag dumping

[@HunterForHire422]

I used assualt armor and thought i vaporized him

[@georzonna]

Iguana 💀

[@ElEscolta]

I like that "save a spot for me in hell" line He sounds so calm and collected, he sounds almost like a friend, he finally doesn't see you as this torn on his side, he sees you as an equal, he bested you, and now he doesn't mind sharing a chair with you in hell. If he wasn't consume by hate and envy, we definitely could of been... buddies.

[@cordyceps182]

I like how ALLMIND goes from trying to be supportive of Iguazu to giving up and calling him a mistake.

[@raghav1026]

Iguazu’s salt is a power beyond comprehension

[@neodinium7316]

Average LOL players

[@FlickTakFlakAttack]

Iguazu's salt was so strong he literally ejected Ayre and ALLMIND from the battlefield

[@biorobot2]

At this point, you gotta wonder why Arquebus bother themselves with Coral …. Iguazu’s salt is the most potent energy source in the galaxy

[@hakageryu-hz7jz]

@@biorobot2 What's hilarious is that there's cut dialogue stating that agitated brainwaves share similar properties with coral. We got Ayre, ALLMIND got Iguazu, but ALLMIND plugged Iguana in to the generator slot.

[@LostWallet]

"I know how this goes, this is where that Grit of yours kick in", the guy literally know how he gonna lose.

[@pepitothefrogito7372]

ALLMIND crunched all the numbers but nothing could have prepared her for the saltiest person in the world.

[@gangstapanda8358]

Did anyone else notice the other voice who said “Who else are you going to kill?” Is Sulla

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

It actually sounds like Rusty, since I’m pretty sure he said that in the Fires of Raven route

[@yamnbam4346]

I doubt it. Pretty sure the devs ended up reusing voice actors a lot during this game. Which is fine, usually an AC pilot’s voice might pop up for a grunt or two.

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

@@yamnbam4346 nah, fromsoft dont operate like that.

[@yamnbam4346]

@@anatoliasmercenary. they do for this game, Sulla’s voice pops up multiple times Edit: Lautrec and Patches also share a VA.

[@neonoxy]

@@yamnbam4346it’s intended.

[@sdbzfan1]

that line from Iguazu sticks out quite a bit everytime I redo the fight "You've killed me and not just once", The fact AllMind during new game plus greets you differently than when you first start the game has me wondering if the NG+ isnt just NG+ but a form of simulation or timeloop, how would Iguazu know we(the player) has killed him multiple times, he doesnt say defeat he says kill implying he's talking about the original time in the depths and the final time against him and Snail The only explanation that could explain it without the idea of a timeloop is that he's refering to all of the consciousness tied to AllMind in that moment, we know during the mission before coral convergence, Walter and Carla remark that they're fighting clones of the Vespers, so what if Iguazu is actually refering to the Combat data in the arena that AllMind is using to train Raven, one of them was Iguazu meaning we've destroyed him at least twice in that timeline of events, this would also include everyone else in the game and by that point timeloop or no timeloop you do kill quite a bit of people depending on your choices in missions Either way its an odd piece of info the devs just have the character say and nothing else to call it out, not even Ayre reacts to it which makes me think its not supposed to be odd that he says that

[@golden3065]

Just to add in a type of crackhead theory. What if the first playthrough of the game is the actual events of the world and every playthrough after that is a what if scenario. To try and figure out if there was a better way things could go after whichever of the two ending you went for. I mean think about it what's the difference between the first run and then the second one? The invintory and stats.

[@baval5]

I too think that the first two playthroughs may have been simulations. We know Allmind can create hyper realistic simulations. Allmind also saves your arena progress through the playthroughs, and Kate is piloting the perfected Mind Alpha that you helped build in the NG+ playthrough.

[@Vellisipsi]

Whats even more interesting is the fact that certain other characters like father dolmayen seem to be aware of the threat you pose to rubicon, either through the fires of raven ending or alea iacta est ending, makes me think that the whole "timeloop" thing has a lot to do with coral itself, and 621s ability to loop in time/see alternate futures has to do with corals "infinite potential", since hes the most perfect fourth gen augmented human, born purely from the desire to ascend humanity through the use of coral. Seeing as Coral is more or less inspired by the Dune Universes Spice, I really think its implied.

[@dargons5145]

Personally I'm subscribing to the "NG and NG+ are simulations" theory too. Specifically because even just in NG++, Allmind seems to have a *ton* of very specific plans layed out already. Like knowing that Steel Haze Ortus will be piloted by Rusty and HAL will be piloted by Walter, as well as knowing ahead of time that Walter will be an obstruction to the plan, and the general talk about putting the various "factors" in place. Oh and the Mind models of course. Makes me think that Allmind has been running quite a few of these simulations solely in order to nail down a sequence of events that would lead to coral release, making small changes every time to see how things would play out differently.

[@shiggium2639]

Not to be boring, but I think he's just referring to ALLMIND as himself, now that he's part of a collective. When he mentions that there are "a lot of us inside me now. Dregs with a grudge", it feels less like he's talking about selves from past timelines, and more like he's talking about individuals that you killed during this timeline who were uploaded into ALLMIND afterwards. That would also explain why it's not explained further, and why Ayre doesn't mention anything about it; everyone involed knows that ALLMIND is a collective consciousness, so the idea of other pissed-off thoughtforms expressing a grudge through ALLMIND-Iguazu doesn't seem too out of place.

[@elegantcat1496]

I won't stand for Iguazu slander. My man overturned Allmind's control with sheer force of will (and salt), most of the times he fought against 621 he heard Ayre buzzing in his head and no matter how salty it is, I have to respect such astounding level of bitterness,that's imhuman. Most people would make themselves coffee and cake and forget about the time that one jerk surpassed you on the lane, NOT IGUAZU

[@brogoyle]

He’s really funny and interesting, I never knew i was a sucker for REALLY grumpy rivals, but I ain’t praising people for holding life-ruining grudges.

[@stormlordeternal7663]

I like how in every other sequence your build was different. Like you had to swap your entire AC for every extra bit of dialogue.

[@GreyCaliber]

Yeah, this boss is easy to rush down, but harder to slowly kill. Phase 2.5 the lighter builds couldnt get all the dialogue before I died. I also do try different builds for triggering dialogue like flamethrowers or missiles for killing the five ACs at the start slowly for any dialogue triggers.

[@Warsm1th12]

I’ve known people like him, people who let bitterness take hold and control their entire lives. One of them is in prison now. Their are definitely varying degrees of envy and hatred. And Iguazu was the worst of both. Great character, I really despised him

[@QuanPham-ty2xl]

Iguazu just like the player who fond out the mute button at the end of the game

[@zolikoff]

My favorite detail is that if he kills you, he doesn't gloat, he just delivers that "save me a spot in hell" line.

[@Davidpirate1]

That final attack when Iguazu was about to die, really scared the hell out of me when I first beat him. I almost died myself so didn't take chances and dodged, but I guess it was not necessary.

[@darkjackl999]

Same i pressed every attack button and quick boost backwards

[@MiniDien]

LoL when i see that i immediately do the vertical slash from coral blade and it fit perfectly with the explosion which look very epic.

[@JackNewbie555]

Wait, ALLMIND/Iguana got missing lines just like O'Keeffe? What are the lines?

[@GreyCaliber]

Its nothing crazy(the event trigger ids were inside this missions block of dialogue so I assume they were meant for this one.): i.imgur.com/lWJeInt.png

[@JackNewbie555]

@@GreyCaliber Oh, very interesting. It seems that ALLMIND was banking on Iguazu's hatred toward 621 to pilot that Ibis mech to its full potential. Literally harvesting the power of his salt, incredible.

[@sdbzfan1]

@@JackNewbie555 and it worked, with his salt he was able to eject Ayre and AllMind from the battlefield during phase 2, her plan worked a little too well

[@JackNewbie555]

@@sdbzfan1 ALLMIND : "I am a genius!" **Iguana activate Salt Armor** ALLMIND : "Oh no!"

[@slicksilver2961]

When I first started the 3rd play through, I figured Allmind would go Hulster 1 on my ass with Kate Markson, but Fromsoft really exceeded my expectations and gave me Iguazu: The Salt of Rubicon

[@christopherlyndsay8611]

Interested to know what Allmind meant by ‘Creations potential’ at the end there

[@phillidaadamus4349]

I think ALLMIND was just poetic there, calling humanity... well... creation's potential. It was just sad, that in the end, it wasn't up to it in what way that potential comes to fruition through Coral.

[@xxxotakuxxx983]

She's talking about human merging with coral, creating a new "creation" that has great potential. That's why she wants coral release. ALLMIND is kinda similar to 9ball in previous AC games. An AI whose purpose is to guide humanity, albeit its own way.

[@thisisabackupemail2264]

@@xxxotakuxxx983 Nineball and its associates kept humanity alive through engineered stalemate wars. ALLMIND is 'benevolent' in how she's trying to throw out the entire board and change what it means to be 'human' to hopefully evolve us past these pointless wars we keep getting into every few hundred years, judging by the AC timeline.

[@napalminthemorning1677]

​@@xxxotakuxxx983So basically it's Third Impact and Human Instrumentality Project in a way but instead it turns people into coral. FromSoft really likes taking inspiration from other series

[@ilikethebluesky101]

@@napalminthemorning1677 im not so sure about turning into coral thing, the true ending is way too ambigious on what it is all truly about more than the two other endings... Atleast with the other two you get some confirmation on what would likely happen...but the true ending is the die being cast and still rolling...

[@azuredominion]

i dont think any game will ever make me feel the same feelings as i felt for iguazu. he is pathetic, embarrassing, and probably one of my favorite enemies in any medium. a revenant hell bent on getting revenge because someone was slightly better than him. igazu is probably my favorite from soft character

[@metalgearexcelsus]

"Slightly" is a big understatement here.

[@voidmonger3831]

Calling him Iguana got a good laugh out of me

[@Tetsainya]

Why do people call him Iguana? I thought it was misspelled like people call Malenia by Malena, Melia, Melina,.. but is this an intended joke?

[@OHGAS-rt5uc]

​@@Tetsainyaintentionally spelling his name wrong is the joke, to add even more disrespect to him

[@redguns.iguazu]

Iguazu the Iguana

[@LordofPainValak]

Well the VA of Iguazu is the same as Tartaglia from Genshin Impact. Tortilla and Iguana's personalities are weirdly similar, although guava has that pettiness and beta energy cranked up to eleven. Also, Tartar has a similar history of people changing his name for shits n giggles.

[@kyrios1120]

⁠No wonder he sounds like Childe

[@nexusj13]

I'm confused, so does Iguazu still have his human body, or is his mind just part of the AI now, like does it actually explain how All Mind just absorbs people?

[@trashman8080]

Basically allmind absorbs anyone who is coral infused and simulate the rest. We killed Sulla, her agent, and the other one is not onboard with what she's doing, so that leaves iguazu and 621

[@juliandurant7559]

Everyone who had coral augmentation AND was linked up to the AllMind became part of it the moment they die, as the Coral essentially reads the data of their experiences before AllMind incorporates it into it's system. Iguazu has 2 places he could've died. Once during our descent into Depth 2 when he ambushes us, and again when we ambush V.2 Snail during the NG++ route. Since he had coral augmentation, either one of those places would've sufficed, though since he says we killed him twice? It means that the canonical routing for this game needs us to have faced him in Depth 2 and won. He then gets uploaded to AllMind, which allows him to pilot his old mech as a 'ghost'. That or he means we killed him in a metaphorical sense, either by proxy of all the other guys we murdered in that route or "killing his ambition" by continually outshining him.

[@Badassmcawsome009]

"This is where that grit of yours kicks in" is so funny to me. Literally that sitting forward in the chair meme made canon. Everyone knows 621 fights best when he's down to his last repair kit.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

I read on a weird wiki that Rusty's death is canon, and he was absorbed into ALLMIND and that he speaks to you through Iguazu. I haven't been able to find this talked about literally anywhere else, but I think this is the line they were talking about.

[@paoloxillo9012]

@@DEarls-ye9tzRusty’s death is not exactly clear in NG++. Because in the other 2 we either kill him or he gets smoked by the Arquebus ships. Now unless I missed something you fight Rusty before getting to the city and then you never meet him. A bit weird, if you have the link to the wiki would you mind writing it.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

@paoloxillo9012 I don't ☹️ it was like a weird unfinished wiki, and I'm not even sure I believe it. Rusty only cares about protecting Rubicon and keeping the coral, so he'll show up to stop you from burning it or respond to Ayre's distress call to bring down Xylem, but when ALLMIND is involved things get weird. During that playthrough, Walter and Carla talk about being ambushed by six unpiloted ACs that are all copies of the Vespers... But there's eight Vespers. Freud, Snail, O'Keefe, Rusty, Hawkins, Maeterlinck, Swinburne, and Pater in that order. We know that Rusty was an RLF double agent, and O'Keefe was an ALLMIND double agent, and some of O'Keefe's dialogue suggests that maybe they worked together. So maybe the missing Vespers are Rusty and O'Keefe. O'Keefe was killed in Depth 2 by Raven. Rusty fought Raven in Depth 3 and lost, but survived... but... what was he doing when ALLMIND brought down the Xylem? We know for a fact he had that fancy new AC, Steel Haze Ortus by this time.

[@paoloxillo9012]

@@DEarls-ye9tz i know. My question was, since he Canonically dies in the other 2 endings, what happens with the ALLMIND one. Since after the fight we never hear of him again. ALLMIND does say that they took care of every possible complication, and Rusty is part of those.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

@@paoloxillo9012 I like to think that maybe Rusty lived. If he didn't die with the other Vespers and he never came to the Xylem, he was likely helping the RLF with something else. We don't know that ALLMIND had any reason to kill him, and coral release probably didn't kill either.

[@seinfelb6851]

The actually funniest part of this fight is when you destroy the Mind Gamma in the first phase and the SOL 644 just comes in and crashes on top of it.

[@baval5]

I'm really curious about Iguazus "you killed me" part. Specifically when he says "who else are you going to kill?" the line becomes much clearer and also may change voices? Why does it become clearer and if its not Iguazu saying it, who is? Rusty? Sulla?

[@HiroyaFujimiya]

Well, most of character in this route basicly already dead and integrated to All Mind data.

[@jaygei_2641]

It's because he ends up syncing with 621, like Ayre did.

[@Jawich45]

Pretty sure that's rusty's voice

[@baval5]

@@Jawich45 Thats what I thought too, and it would be in character for him

[@Livid72Des]

It’s Sulla’s voice. If it was Rusty he would have ended it with “buddy”

[@horus_p7]

My favorite part is at the beginning; the ALLMIND AC is looking up at the finish line to their goal and the music is kind of ethereal, but when it turns around and Iguazu starts speaking, the music drops like your stomach when you start falling.

[@michaelmoser7497]

Phase 3 is the scariest thing FromSoft has ever made. Nothing puts me in panic mode more than Iguazu going melee

[@Silentmouke]

The last shot of the phase two cutscene is so good

[@Senkushi]

thing about this boss fight for me, it was the hardest one I DIDN'T feel the need to bust out the dual zimmer- needle build to beat. finally felt like my skill caught up to my AC and I proceeded to turn ALLMIND's most powerful into scrap

[@BigHomieSenpai]

"You were... A mistake Iguazu" is still my favorite line in this game

[@cheese6039]

For some reason, I always found it funny how phase 2 allmind landed on phase 1 allmind like that. hard to explain

[@doppie1677]

Despite he’s petulance i reeeeeally like that Iguazu got his own main character moment in the second phase of the second half of the fight when he hijacks Allmind’s whole rig. I’ll shut you all up indeed

[@person906]

Its his first win in the whole story. When players actually pay attention to his character that moment is undeniably compelling.

[@rattled6732]

Iguazu really tapped into one percent of an average league of legends players salt

[@PuchimonExtreme]

6:47 "This is it... This isn't over... It's time... A SQUIRREL!"

[@silverredwing20]

I have a question. At 1:47, Iguazu sounded like he's using another voice. Was that his own or someone else's?

[@person906]

Pretty sure its Sulla. Both because it sounds like him but the nature of the question "who else are you gonna kill" is very reminiscent of Sulla saying stuff like "was it 617 that I killed last?"

[@Hiperultimate]

From the start to the end I felt like why is he going to such lengths to kill me? Just because he couldnt win in a 1v1 twice? But then in the end when he died. It all made sense.... and it made me like Iguazu's character.

[@spiritofsound8469]

Shame we can't get the parts from phase-2 Allmind. Really fancy that emerald-turquoise energy.

[@metalgearexcelsus]

That emerald-turquoise energy is actually Iguazu's brainvaves. The dude's hate boner for you is literally the power source for SOL 644.

[@veggielord5550]

I love how Iguazu goes for that last attack in his death animation. Trying to pull an "I'm taking you with me" is so in character for him.

[@The_pitbull536]

Pretty sure it's the same animation as ayres sol boss

[@metalgearexcelsus]

​​​@@The_pitbull536no, these animations are different. Ayre has the "reach" animation with just her hand as she still believes you won't do the unthinkable. While Iguazu activates his energy claws and charges at you.

[@kevingame3198]

Man he’s like J from verdict day the final boss called n-wigx/V but 2.0

[@metalgearexcelsus]

More like Stinger from Project Phantasma or ACLR Evangel.

[@fusioncell7669]

@@metalgearexcelsus I've been thinking that for some time now. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

[@transgender_F-117]

5:35 that sure is his name

[@nelsongodoy5101]

"I know how this goes, this is where that grit of yours kicks in." had that line play just as we traded blows and he only lost becuase terminal armor went off leaving me at 1

[@metalgearexcelsus]

Iguzau was so eager to beat 621 that he uploaded himself into AI overlord, blocked said AI overlord through sheer rage and is the only one in the whole game trying to charge at you while being on the brink of death. Iguazu is petty and envious, but his determination and desperation are not to be matched.

[@jinx1987]

He represents all Soulsborne players struggling to beat the boss by any means

[@giahuytran720]

Allmind finally realizing it/her mistake about choosing Iguazu fucking kill me lmao

[@DuncanMaisonneuve-kk3vf]

If not for the annoying as hell gank at the start, this would’ve usurped Walter as my favorite fight in the game.

[@dukogpom]

At the last phase its super hard to listen to the voice lines as iguana goes on drug and charges with melee no matter where you are

[@Xyzerion]

My initial thoughts when I fought him: “Bruh seriously this loser? lmao”

[@shoken4421]

Seeing how the final battle is one big boss rush kinda makes me feel bad now that I'm on new game +

[@v1nc3_21]

I always wondered who the other voice at 1:46 is? Is it just Iguazu but over a different kind of speaker? It doesn't really sound like him and from the context of the other "dregs" I always assumed it was someone else. I just can't recognice the voice

[@person906]

90% sure its sulla.

[@Thesaurus_Rex]

I'm not sure, but "So tell me. Who else are you going to kill?" doesn't sound like Iguazu's voice. If anything, I think it sounds like Chatty. Might just be the filter.

[@corneliusocachorromanteiga5931]

I wish we could get his sword or AC parts for killing him

[@widyadwi321]

But, what make you special! Im the main character!

[@liamhollands344]

I'm still stuck on this fight. I get close every now and then and I've changed my build up so many times to deal with the combat puzzle that is posed here but I'll admit that I feel like I'm hitting a hard skill issue with this fight. Allmind is such a menace to keep locked onto with how they weave in and out of all their reinforcements so much, I always end up just fighting my targeting system I never used hard lock on all game and now that I'm trying to use it on Allmind it still manages to constantly swap locks.

[@MrSkillIssue_90]

I literally use this specific mission to test out new AC builds i find on YT or via share code or just a warmup before i play through the entire game again