You Have To Work, Sorry.

[@nickrchav]

As a member of GenZ, I have no problem with working 40-45 hours a week. What I do have a problem with is being forced to go above and beyond without any extra incentive or pay, forgoing my lunch breaks/weekends to “catch up” on work my coworkers should have done, and being unable to use my PTO whenever I want without being shamed or harassed by my managers. I want to work, not to be enslaved.

[@danielrichardson6054]

That’s not slavery pal. That’s called opportunity. The reason so many people don’t get promoted is because they don’t deserve it

[@cstefalen15]

a fellow gen z here. i agree with you and i just want to add that sometimes working overtime and working on the weekend are inevitable. but constantly working overtime is not normal. we are humans. we need to rest. if you think about it, even machines also need to rest and recharge. i think some people forgot the term 'overwork' exists. overworked people are grumpy, gloomy and rude because they barely had a rest. to barely had a rest is to barely recharge

[@LovingLifeasEmma]

YEP this

[@bobcarl8119]

​@@danielrichardson6054Sure wage slave

[@tiredman99]

​@@danielrichardson6054the problem is that I've found out when you do someone else's work even if you make it known that you did it, you get no recognition for it and often aren't promoted

[@MP92217]

Millennial mom of 4 here… I think something Brett didn’t cover that is relevant is the fact that you used to be able to support your family on a single income with a blue collar job. My grandfather immigrated from Mexico and worked in a factory supporting his wife and 4 daughters on that income alone. He had time off with his family and retired in his early 60s, and is now living in his paid-off home with hundreds of thousands in savings. Meanwhile my husband is an engineer and we are struggling to pay our rent in CA in order for me to be at home with our young kids. I’m not blaming anyone, but it’s different now. People are going to college and getting less in return than previous generations who went straight to work out of HS.

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

Your grandfather contributed meaningfully to a company which valued him. You live in California - have you considered LARPing as a border jumper to join the occupation of tax-payer funded hotels being used to house such?

[@rmcaulif]

Unfortunately, blue collar jobs still typically pay better than college jobs. The whole college push for everything is not a good thing.

[@brianmiller5750]

You can thank Biden and the Nazi Democrats for that

[@SeloHe]

On top of that, HS degrees mean nothing anymore. One of my friend’s was forced to signed diplomas of students that he very well knew could barely read and write

[@CheerfullyCynical829]

FOUR?!?!? Good god that is insane.....

[@antoniovalencia2948]

Yeah the first girl actually has it right. I don’t mind the 9-5 part, but having to do stuff at home when you’re off is where I draw the line.

[@aaronadamson7463]

That is why you either dont take a salary position, or you only take a salary position if the pay is high enough to be good enough compensation for the extra work. If you have an hourly position, it is illegal for them to require you to work without pay, so you are legally protected from that kind of stuff.

[@Morgyborgyblob]

Now and then? Fine. But as standard? Nope. If I work weekends it's either 1) pre-arranged, and I get shift pay, or 2) to make sure a project deadline is met, and I'll most likely get time in lieu later.

[@TomFranklinX]

Complaining about hard jobs is as silly as complaining about expensive products. They're not for you, if you don't want it, don't take it. Other people who don't mind the extra work will.

[@chesterbelle]

draw the line qhere you want yourr boss will do to and find another one

[@davidz3879]

Have a separate email account & phone for work. When you're on leave, don't use your work phone or email. Then your boss can't disturb you when it's not a work day for you.

[@Phone-Center]

I did quit my 40h job to start my own business. Now I work 60h per week. Its not the hours that boderded me, its the fact that I had no control over the conditions and my work felt worthless.

[@tr41l3rtr4sh]

Well I hope your're getting paid 20hrs of overtime

[@notinservice7112]

You forgot to mention you’re your own boss now.

[@takidsage1515]

9 to 5 is one thing. Telling me to still work after hours when I get home, and mandatory work on weekends, that’s a different story. I’m working to support myself but I’m not your slave. I have a life outside of work.

[@kurtwinter4422]

Yeah, I'm going to need you to in on Sunday too, yeah, okay!

[@aidanmeyer944]

Then just get a regular 9 to 5 and don't worry about the jobs that would make you work on weekends.

[@KMF3]

​@@aidanmeyer944I agree unless every single business is going to start requiring this.

[@captainmerca341]

I will do whatever it takes to provide for my family even if that means 7 days a week 12 hours a day if there's no other option. Life isn't about you when you have a family, stop trying to be happy and make yourself useful.

[@diatribeeverything]

Welcome to the teaching profession. And they wonder why people don't want to go into education.

[@Kaye727]

I don’t mind working 40+ hours a week. But I cringe at having to submit vacation time to go to a doctor’s appointment. There does need to be more work/life balance.

[@absurdartist6346]

Agreed like dr offices have a finite number of hours. It sucksz

[@justina.6769]

This is why I have always worked 2nd shift hours (2-11 or 3-11) at every job I have had. I can make appointments that work for me and I don't have to worry about using PTO/vacation/sick time.

[@kpoppy9635]

I work in a doctors office and I need to take PTO in order to go to a doctor's appointment.

[@danskyl7279]

Oh, I used to had that doctor or clinic appoinment every work shifts cause my lung had "bad water", um.. dont ask. And yes its annoying but at the same time necessary. 😂 Thankfully I pass a whole 8 months of it. Freeee

[@sunnyscreatives9107]

Isn't that supposed to be sick leave then when you comeback you just have to send a doctors not that you are fit to work when you return? Why use a VL(Vacation Leave)?Isn't it supposed to be an SL(Sick Leave) instead right?

[@anne.ominous]

Yeah no I agree with the first girl. A 6-day work week that also tells you you have homework in the evenings? Nah.

[@jakebuss9851]

Get a diff job

[@Okillydokilly69]

I bet the pay is worth it

[@vaultthirteen5782]

and salary pay? yeah no thanks. hourly is better in every way

[@scottfinfrock6270]

Depends on what you're getting paid

[@dmdjones1595]

​@@jakebuss9851Yes, because stable jobs in every field just grow on trees.

[@murtadha96]

Yeah the first girl had a solid point. When you go home you have zero obligations to respond to emails or extra work. Glad that's cleared up.

[@RealityMFiction]

I think it depends on hee pay, benefits etc.. if the job pays 50k+ a year and expect her to do extra stuff then, yeah it's worth it .

[@murtadha96]

@@RealityMFiction no, not really. If it's 50k, 30k, or 200k. These are called boundaries. And a separation between work and life (which could include family of course) is essential. Your argument is akin to saying harassment is wrong, unless the pay is right, which makes it justifiable. How about no?

[@connorsullivan7692]

@@murtadha96 It aint that serious, if you have to respond to some emails I'm pretty sure you will be okay

[@jpkellerman7056]

​@@connorsullivan7692 It also ain't that bad if you respond to those emails once you've clocked in the next day, The managers will be ok.

[@palaven4048]

​@@murtadha96Ok I'm assuming you've never been a manager. Because yes, in many cases you do have to be able to respond to phone calls, emails etc. basically 24/7. It sucks but you're getting paid more for a reason.

[@desireforhonor3769]

I'm Gen Z'er, and I work in construction (a blue-collar job). And it's been impossible to get my generation to work in my industry, but there is a legitimate reason as to why. So I'll speak to what I've noticed. Back in the day, you'd work pretty similar hours as we do now (when accounting for The Gen Z'ers in the workforce). But the hours that you worked would get you a house that you can afford, also affordable food and basic necessities. People used to be able to go on vacations and afford it. Now the expectation is still there, but the pay doesn't match. Back in the day, your hourly rate was lower, but the price of things was MUCH lower. I have to and am working 65 hours a week to support my wife and kids, I need to do these hours to just barely afford housing, food, and basic necessities. So why work so hard? I do it to support my family and get ahead in life. Employers should pay more for the laborers involved in the industry. To say that everyone in my generation is a bunch of lazy idiots is only true to a SMALL degree (the examples of my generation used are the stupid ones that tend to be loud). The complaints of my generation are true and should be considered, instead of just kicking us to the curb every time we say that the economy that we are entering is biased to previous generations. Stop taxing the hell out of us, stop paying us like shit, and stop pretending that the economy that we are going into is the same as yours it's insulting.

[@acnp785]

I am 38 and agree with a lot of what you just said. What pisses me off is the young people, inevitably (applies to previous generations, as well), are thr morons voting for the ones ruining their lives with inflation and regulation.

[@toomaskotkas4467]

Are you saying that capitalism doesn't work? It sounds to me that you complaining about the owners of the company trying to squeeze every cent they can from people like you, so that the shares of company are bringing enough dividends which you can also buy. Isn't what capitalism is about?

[@SpikedPinapple]

​@@toomaskotkas4467no it's not 🤣🤣🤣 back in the day capitalism wasn't about rinsing every penny you could it just meant that there was a free market. At this point every company is built on unsustainable growth. You can't continue to have % increases every year and some point it has to stagnate, because they can't rinse it out of the consumer's as there's not enough there so they take it out of the workers too all to increase unsustainable growth and yearly profits

[@GearForTheYear]

@@toomaskotkas4467 you’re describing free market capitalism. I agree with your underlying sentiment but capitalism as a concept doesn’t imply a complete lack of labor regulation.

[@user-ee2vt7yi3m]

@@toomaskotkas4467capitalism is a word invented by marx to "criticize the god of the jews, money" free market ideals were invented by adam smith and coincide with classical liberalism and the boom in britain and the commonwealth + america's dominion over the rest of the world and improved living conditions

[@TehCrushinatorz]

No, I'm completely with them on this. The weekend is essential for family/social life and work life balance, and if you want me to to check emails on my days off then sod off: you're not paying me for it and you have not right to my free time.

[@Golasp1798]

a 6 day workweek should not be a forever job, just something to do for a time............... and yeah if you check emails on your "days off" you are just a gullible fool

[@TruuMoo]

it is pretty crazy that they expect people to do more work for no extra pay. I am happy to go in to work whenever I'm needed because I definitely don't mind that sweet overtime pay, but if I was expected to work OT and didn't get paid for it? that would be a much different story

[@MrHowardMoon]

@@Golasp1798 That's how it starts though. Stupid muppets saying "Oh, it's only for a short period of time" and then fast forward 24 months and there is no change except it now being considered the norm.

[@amisanders467]

I work 6 days a week & average 50-60 hours. I work every single weekend. My only day off in the week is a Tuesday. A day which all my family and friends are at work. It’s taking a huge toll on my family/friends/relationship life. I feel like I never have time for myself. :( I finish work everyday at 7pm & most shops are closed. If i need an important appointment, like to go to the doctors, I can only do this on a Tuesday. Hell, last week I rung up my local doctors to make an appointment and the next available appointment was 4 weeks! My life is = work work work !!!

[@asparrow9876]

Brett is the most tσnɛ-dɛɑf person on here. It's getting really bad honestly.

[@mx8357]

The mark was missed on this one. I know people from all walks of life and types of jobs, white collar or blue collar… everyone is complaining about having to basically work 60+ hours JUST to pay the bills. Sure, I am willing to work my ass off and put my best foot forward for 40 hours. I’m a hard worker. I have a masters and have a lot of experience. However, I’d love to spend time and make memories with everyone I love before we literally die…… Edit: I often see people argue that “individualistic” societies (i.e., America) are unhealthy both mentally and physically. The alternate being a collectivist society. How are we going to be a community driven society is every household needs two incomes, with each person working 60+ per week? The math isn’t mathing.

[@waltermh111]

But she didn't miss the mark because she was talking about a 40 hour week. And you're talking about a 60 hour week. Also, The way that collectivist cultures have single income families Is the woman being a homemaker and a mother and the father being the worker. It's called them being more traditional. Women in the workplace drive down wages because it's the economics of supply and demand. As well as women being much more expensive to companies. Along with that is other complicated or nuanced issues but that's some of it

[@dangerousdylan6262]

She's a hot wealthy woman working on social media for a conservative program... what did u expect?

[@gingy30]

Brett is ignorant about the struggles that regular people face.

[@MrMikeDao]

@@gingy30regular people should manage their finances better. Get a financial audit from Caleb Hammer

[@mnomadvfx]

@@waltermh111 "But she didn't miss the mark because she was talking about a 40 hour week" Evidently listening isn't a skill in your repertoire. She literally said they expected her to come in to work one day a weekend most weeks. So that's more like 48 hrs a week off the bat. Then they are talking about continuing to work, responding to calls and e-mails when she gets home - which depending on how long they expect her to keep being available at home that could easily be extending into 60+ hr week.

[@ingabytes1142]

I work a 9-5 and its honestly crazy how fast life goes by when you are working that much. It can feel kind of soul sucking if you don't have a passion for the job. I think its fair that newer generations are wanting better for themselves. However, everyone needs to contribute to society in some way and obviously its essential that people work. But, life is not about work and people don't want to feel like slaves to it. Also, I feel younger generations have been forced to work very hard because the high cost of living yet people call younger generations "lazy". The middle class is disappearing, imagine how hard it is to be a young adult in this economy trying to get your life started, compared to how it was for even 30 year olds today. On a side note, I know I am very privileged to have a 9-5, not here to complain about it but just to say the kids are not completely crazy.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Everyone needs to contribute to society? Why? As a swm, society hates me... Why would I support it?

[@GooseCee]

@@DiogenesDworkinsonthat's a very valid point! I didn't choose to be born, I have no obligation to help my society

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

@@GooseCee we're free merchants. They want something? Make it worth our time. Otherwise, there's nothing more American than no taxation without representation.

[@ScarryGargoyle]

@@DiogenesDworkinsonnihilistic as shit

[@mysurfing3550]

She didn't say anything wrong though. Working 6 days a week and then having to check work at home too is a bit much and should not be encouraged.

[@saulgoodman2018]

YEP. That's what this gen z boomer does not get.

[@pagespurls]

agreed. i currently work a "9 to 5" that is essentially like that. the whole lack of work life balance and expectations in my field specifically that you're constantly available literally has me ready to throw my J.D. out the window.

[@Kunztmann]

In my country is against the law, to bother you on weekends, but to work 6 days , means that the schedule is probably somenthing like 8 to 15

[@jbird4478]

@@Kunztmann France?

[@megangosiak1489]

Hers was the only one i agreed with. 6 days a week devoted in the office, plus after hours emails and follow up? Nope.

[@ChaiTea7]

Girl in the first video even brought up the given salary, so clearly, whatever that amount was, to her it was not worth losing time with family and friends that she would have to sacrifice. I think that is totally reasonable. Good on her, honestly.

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

Yes, 100%, and I'm sure almost everyone in my age group (Gen X'ers in early pension age) would be in her corner as well.

[@neotoad456]

she looks older than a mere "girl". but you're spot on.

[@ChaiTea7]

@@neotoad456 Weird comment, but okay? She looks like she’s around my age - 27. People say “meeting up with the girls” and “girl’s night” all the time. I didn’t say “child.”

[@williegmassey7122]

what a conservative capitalist like her of course doesnt bring up is that all these technological innovations should lead to us having to work less to achieve the necessary productivity. A 4 day work week should be a reality by now, but the existing mode of production is built around exploitation, so the capitalists will try to use all innovations only to enrich themselves more.

[@daryldixon3685]

This is where the “pay gap” comes into play! Men have no problem working overtime compared to women and they take less time off.

[@panickysociety97]

The problem of the first video is not the work load itself but the fact that you still only get paid for those 5 days 9-5.

[@Smoove_J]

Exactly. This woman isn't lazy, she just needs to be properly incentivized. When you get more pay for more work you actually start to love your job.

[@TehKarmalizer]

@@Smoove_J there isn’t a sufficient incentive for me to work those kinds of hours and keep an eye on emails after hours.

[@Kieran_OPC]

It's a cheeky way of saying we will pay you well for this Line of work but need you in an extra 9 to 5 on either Saturday or Sunday, proceeding to then theoretically make your hourly rate less.

[@asparrow9876]

Employers nowadays are smoking that top tier crack. They're so hungry for profits they lost the ability to count. They truly think pressing harder will yield better returns. They sincerely deserve to fall. I love it when corporations either go down or lose several billions in revenue. Nothing makes me happier. When I was a kid, I tuned in to morning cartoons, now I tune in to financial reports and stock market changes. NOTHING makes me happier than seeing them get what they deserve.

[@xxx0ox0]

Yeah I don't get the criticism of the first video. I worked 60 to 80 hours a week to get ahead if my next employer told me to do that I would be on the same page as the first girl.... always depends on goals and needs

[@johndoedoe88]

You are right sitting down in a chair and talking to a microphone should give you the empathy to understand what a blue collar job with no higher incentive to pay really is.

[@Bushra42162]

You know she's also an actress, right?

[@johndoedoe88]

@@Bushra42162 Yeah, she pretends that "she works". She wouldn't be able to work 2 hours a day in a construction job.

[@tiny6205]

…she’s said multiple times she was a waitress and worked for Trader Joe’s for like five years. Not trying to disprove your point but please just have the facts

[@johndoedoe88]

@@tiny6205 Compared to a guy that works 20 years at a construction job, working as a waitress is a "hard job", yeah right.

[@tiny6205]

@@johndoedoe88 I know dude my dad himself works the same as you and as a sixteen year old girl myself I work in a stock feed store. I’m not saying you don’t work hard I’m just saying she isn’t the same as people in our generation who sit in bed all day and cry about not having money

[@joshrees1591]

I’m gen X. I’ve had the 60 hr work weeks and ultimately left that job for a 40 hr week. Though it’s less money, it was the best decision I ever made.

[@j_zales1390]

Good that you like your new job better but you could have made a better choice with finding a job . I used to work 70+ hours a week at my old job but after quitting i found a new job that pays better but less hours so now i work 50ish hours and make the same if not a little more than my previous 70+ hour job . Find a job that pays you more for the same amount or less work then your previous job . Also i have the exact same job title almost doing the exact same thing as before and have benifits now

[@neotoad456]

@@j_zales1390 smart, mate.

[@Boyahda]

Your boss won't remember you worked 60 hours a week, but your kids will. You made a wise decision.

[@ladyknyght]

First gal had valid points. When I leave the office, my day is over. That after hours email follow up goes against labor laws in some states.

[@AtomicVertigo_Comics]

its funny, at my internship, my cooworkers were expected to stay late and reply to emails as soon as they could, even if they were home for the night. my boss never replied to anything until he came in the next morning. unfair.

[@kajjak7001]

​@@AtomicVertigo_Comicsno. Your boss just knows what's up. Get the underlings to do the menial shit you don't want to

[@racheljames7]

I agree. It's not on to expect your workers to not switch off at the end of the day and work over the weekend when they're supposed to be off. She wasn't the unreasonable one.

[@Ph0enix7373]

That first girl had it exactly right, I’m not sorry that I refuse to work 6 days a week. Also I’m not going to be following up on work emails while at home. If you want me to be working at home then you better be paying for it because I’m going to act my wage. If I’m not getting paid for what I’m doing then I’m absolutely not going to be doing it

[@vincedibona4687]

You’re so strong… so brave… 🤣😂🤣

[@ryanelliott6706]

That’s the irony. 6 days a week is worthy of a higher reward. If you are going to “act your wage” you are likely worth minimum wage.

[@Ph0enix7373]

@@ryanelliott6706 I make above minimum wage, work part time and only work 5 days a week. I’m also a college student so my current job isn’t the most glamorous however I get paid what I am worth and what I am worth is more than minimum wage.

[@alexiatrott2714]

Agreed. The internet and accessibility to it has blurred the boundary between the private home life and the professional work life. I don’t think it’s a very “based” move to say that it’s ok to be on call 24/7 for a job you only get paid for being in the office for. When you’re home, you should be present with your family, with your kids. Why are we promoting stressed, absent parents?

[@LeavesAbove]

I think it’s different now, because a 9-5 job used to actually pay for things, and now it doesn’t. If someone from Gen Z wanted to live alone or have a family in a house, they(and their partner) literally would have to work every day all day until their bodies have out. It’s not work, I don’t think, that’s appalling people, it’s the fact that they’ll still be impoverished no matter how much or how hard they work that’s the problem.

[@aliaflow6877]

Exactly it used to be enough to pay the bills now even if you work you can't live

[@kelly.nicole]

Exactly I think in a way she’s out of touch. You are an influencer with millions of followers. She’s rich! I had an office job for 2 years that required a BACHELORS degree and I was making $17/hr. I finally left bc I couldn’t take it anymore. I was barely able to make my car payment.

[@norwegianblue2017]

Having worked full time for the last 30 years, I do think there is something to be said about moving on from the 40+ hour workweek for the average joe. Sure, it comes with the territory if you make a massive salary or you are an entrepreneur trying to launch a business. But for the rest of us, I think we need more life/work balance. Maybe that means a four-day work week, or maybe it means 6-hour days. I know that most people's productivity plummets those last couple of hours every day anyway. Since wages for the middle class have been flat for decades, time for us to at least be compensated by having to work less. All the benefits in advances in technology have gone to the bosses. They don't pay any more, but expect the same or more output from fewer and fewer employees.

[@shawnpitman876]

Well first thing you need to do is convince useless Gen Z people like Brett that we don't have it better off than the generations before us. Because while we have it better than people CENTURIES before us, the boomers and gen X generations were able to afford SIGNIFICANTLY more with their wages from these jobs than any Gen Z will ever be able to afford. You used to be able to afford to buy a house on a full time janitor salary, go ahead and try that in 2023, you'll probably struggle to afford an apartment even.

[@Razzy-sr4oq]

The afternoon slump or end of day slump often happens because actually being able to sit down and eat has been taken away from a lot of workers. You need about a 35-40 minute break to just refuel, let it hit your bloodstream, and get back into it. Now, it's almost impossible to even get a bathroom break. 40hr weeks would be more tolerable if a simple break to meet bodily needs was simply accepted and not encroached upon.

[@MrHowardMoon]

@@Razzy-sr4oq I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. A 40hr work week would not be more tolerable just because you're given time to use the toilet when you need to. The main point here is the fact that wages have stagnated for decades while the higher ups get massive pay rises and new technology makes the cost of running the business cheaper. I agree with the OP about how it's more to do with people wanting to live their life instead of feeling like they only exist to work. That's why fast food places found it so difficult to hire again after COVID, people just got used to actually having their lives back.

[@captaindanger13]

tbh i'd rather have 10hr shifts across 4 days a week than the 8 hours on 5 days just so i can get an extra day off. i realize that's more than half a day but it's not like i'd be able to do much after work anyways cuz i'll be tired from work either way.

[@Razzy-sr4oq]

@@MrHowardMoon oh, well I'm regards to the wages stagnating, I've no disagreement on that point. That's why I didn't even address it. I'm so used to people actively not wanting 40-hour weeks simply because of the time required each day. The pay has to change, no argument there, but so does the employer treatment of workers as a whole. Work doesn't have to be miserable, you know?

[@Apollo55_]

First girl is absolutely correct. 5 days in the office that's fine, but having to keep working after I'm off the clock, and forced to come in an extra day, yeah hell no. Good luck finding any other employees. Edit: Since you idiots seem to think I'm talking about myself and generalized statements aren't a thing anymore, I will clarify. I do not work a desk job, I don't even work 5 days a week. I absolutely love my job so I choose to go back for more. Maybe y'all should learn some reading comprehension before you start to try to give people advice.

[@ohno7582]

Ya so quit if you dont like being treated that way. The issue is most people are beggars not choosers. If you are capable enough to get a better job good for you but if you are not sthu and deal with it.. people are out here at mcdonalds crying for years that they are worth 15 an hour and im just looking behind them trying to find the line of employers thinking they are worth that.

[@Apollo55_]

@@ohno7582 Thinking I'm talking about myself here? No sir, I work 4 16 hour days regularly but I love my job with a passion so I choose to go back for more. And I definitely ain't workin at no McDonalds 😂

[@NotThatKraken]

Depends on the job. That’s totally normal for a junior attorneys or software engineers at a startup. The pay for those jobs is correspondingly high though. 70 hour work weeks are a bit over-the-top for more normal office worker jobs though. You have to decide what kind of work life and money you want and then pick careers and employers that align with what’s important to you. If you like computers but want to work 40 hours per week, maybe work in IT for a government agency. The pay is half what you’d get in industry, but you have a great work-life balance and job security.

[@vincedibona4687]

Then don’t apply and waste everyone’s time. No one is forcing you. Stop acting entitled.

[@escapetarkov3838]

LOL omg. Try working in the oilfield before complaining..... good grief a 9-5 monday-friday is a part time job.

[@anembroideredbird7442]

The biggest problem i have is how these companies pride themselves on "work/life balance" yet they expecet you to answer those emails after hours or come in on your only day off because someone didnt show.. You cannot tout work life balance then expect the staff to go above and beyond for barely enough pay to cover basic living.. I have been gaslit and guilt tripped more than once for not answering my phone on my day off with my family but when upper management is off and your last resort is reaching out to them they do nothing and even get mad at you for contacting them.. its a two way street imo

[@Alex.AL_26]

exactly, as a Operations Manager at a pretty high level in the company I don't exact my employees to checking emails or doing work outside of the normal time in the workday. and even though I a work cell phone that I take home with me If I get a call as soon as I leave work Friday afternoon I am not returning that call until Monday morning.

[@alyssa.brooke]

I don’t think older generations had to deal with as much interconnectedness as Gen Z employees now do. I would say since smartphones and laptops, employees are “on-the-clock” 24/7.

[@misterkittyandfriends1441]

Work-life balance generally means you can take short breaks during the workday to do something personal, but you are expected to be available after hours periodically. If you want to check out at 5, you do not want work-life balance or its chaotic evil sister, work-life integration.

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

@@alyssa.brooke That is an important point. When I look back at my life... I knew precious little about computers in my early years and was already in my 30s when I first became aware of people talking about something called the internet and email and things. Those were alien concepts to me at the time but those in the know explained to me how the email service is a time saver and how it will free up my time to do other things. Same with the internet; I was told about its convenience and how much everyone's life benefits from it, again opening up more free time. Eventually I decided to keep up with the Joneses and bought a computer and learnt the basics and soon learnt more and more. Well, it turns out that "doing work faster" didn't mean more free time; only that more work is expected each day - and during evenings and weekends too. Boy, do I wish I could have held on to life at a much slower tempo... Those remain the best days of my life. The interconnectedness and speed of everything makes everything infinitely more challenging, in my experience.

[@martinbond46]

I am 60 years old and I totally support the first young you highlighted. She is totally right and I wish I would have set those boundaries when I was her age. Everything else you opined I agree with and have seen.

[@Britton_Thompson]

The reason Brett is so off the mark in this video is because she's only ever known acting and podcasting as 'work'. She's oblivious to the experience of working 40+ hour/wk jobs in which you're just a cog in a machine doing work that doesn't directly benefit you; doing work you never feel personally invested in. Giving so many hours of our waking lives to performing insignificant duties for a service enterprise to turn a profit is nothing short of soul crushing

[@007JAKICA]

I know for a fact just that wasn't her life, so if you do not want to make yourself even bigger fool later, there exists, here on youtube, interviews of her past life.

[@destinyhntr]

She did work in Trader Joe's as a teen but from personal experience, working as a teen and working full time when you need to support yourself are two very different experiences.

[@SOURJDADDY]

Jealous much?

[@ismaeel9926]

Yea man she’s a kid with no actual work experience

[@SOURJDADDY]

@@ismaeel9926 bro she was a child actor! Some people should just know when to keep their mouth shut. If you knew what she went through growing up, you would keep your lips sealed

[@Apocalypse754]

the only thing i despise with working is being underpaid and undervalued for the work you do.

[@namantherockstar]

Brett inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@_YESIMHIGH]

@@namantherockstardamn I guess that’s the secret of actually getting subs… seems like you’ve begged all of them

[@TyM1108]

Find a better job

[@GearForTheYear]

@@namantherockstarstill doing this? Change tactics. Instead of begging for subs, produce content that is relatable that people want to watch. I hate to suggest reaction content but it’s easy, relatable, and mass-producible. I won’t watch it but I’m sure there are tons out there who will.

[@--Morpheus--]

​@@TyM1108easy to say

[@chadsmith7519]

The 40 hour work week was invented for ONE person to work and the other to stay home. Now we have both people working and neglecting home life. Why we got so bad so fast in society. No parenting.

[@mikeking683]

Vvomen

[@LopsideMakes]

I hate feminism as a woman. Can I just do housework, make food for a family, and take care of kids please? It's way more enjoyable, I'd presume.

[@annadidyana518]

Exactly!!!

[@brooke9847]

I have no problem working 40 hours a week. What irks me is that my husband and I have good careers and are smart with our money but one unfortunate event (health scare, car breaks down, tree falls on our house etc.) we would be in a world of hurt. We have insurance and still have to pay off 13k out-of-pocket from the birth of our daughter. You shouldn't have to make all the "right" choices and still worry if something goes wrong. Insurance and cost of living is a major issue in this country.

[@MrMikeDao]

What happened to your emergency savings? That’s part of being smart with money especially if you have good careers. I always have at least half of my salary into an emergency. Sacrificed a lot to get rid of debt and build an emergency and invest

[@larry_the]

​@@MrMikeDaoThe fact that you admit to sacrificing a lot just to have some emergency savings actually agrees with the comment you replied to.

[@MrMikeDao]

@@larry_the if you’re “middle class” there’s always sacrifice to pay off debts as quick as possible. Saving $45,000 is not easy. Less than 30% of Americans have an emergency fund, even less a fully funded one. I live freely and the downturn of economy does not effect me as much as it does others because I sacrificed (even when the economy was good) 5 years to have no debt and and a fully funded emergency fund. This includes learning how to fix my own car, fix things around my house, any sort of maintenance. I put myself in a situation where I’d have less anxiety on whether or not I can pay for things that could happened to my well being. Because the poor financial decisions I made when I was younger made me felt like I was drowning, felt almost impossible to get out of. I can live and breathe now. I’m not denying cost of living has gone up, but now is the time to really sit down and figure out your finances. Are you spending unnecessarily? Are you getting food delivered often? Meal prepping? How many subscriptions?

[@nickmedley4749]

Something that needs to be rediscovered in our culture is the concept of leisure and play. Work tends to leave us so little free time and we tend to just veg out when we get it instead of being rejuvenated. No wonder so many people are burnt out!

[@vincedibona4687]

Pampered, self-entitled queen. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Hmm_Ace_Attorney_Channel]

People work 8 hours a day staring at a screen so they can come home, melt into the couch/bed, and stare at a screen until they go to sleep. Nothing wrong with watching TV or playing games, but if it's all you do in your off time then you're gonna be miserable.

[@GearForTheYear]

If everything wasn’t so damn expensive then maybe I would actually take vacations like my parents did every year from the 1980s through the 2000s.

[@BigPatFenis_]

*Holy shit,* we just want to be able to afford houses, a new car and be able to support a family. I'd work to the grave if it meant I could at least have those things and 2 days off every week. That's all I want. I'll do my 40 hours with a smile on my face and a good attitude if I can just live a decent life. But no, someone on the internet always has to tell me to just pull up my bootstraps and slave harder.

[@physicshypernova2083]

💯

[@BodiCampbell]

HA! Who told you that was possible?

[@edvardgrieg6408]

Only 40 hours? And you want a house, new car, AND to support a family? In this economy?

[@Caelc15]

dont worry about it, the world will be destroyed soon enough so why bother?

[@ThugByChoice]

2 days!?! I need 4 days!

[@bluepaladin9630]

Not gonna lie, I would take four 10-12 hour shifts over five 8 hour shifts. You get your 40 hours, I get my “work-life balance”, everyone is happy.

[@JoshPeterson]

4 day work weeks are the best, although I'm at the point where a three day weekend goes by super fast as well, but I do enjoy it

[@mynameiskaren1681]

Same i work 40 hrs a week 10 hours a day, i love my weekends, especially long weekends

[@sarahbergman117]

Yup! On a 10 hr/4 day work week and I love it.

[@padarousou]

I'd rather do it like the oil rig contractors. A few weeks on, a few weeks off and a decent living

[@coolusernamel]

Working is not the problem. Working long hours, doing the job of two to three people for a salary you cannot really live on and barely seeing your family is the problem. Doing this your whole life to end up at 60 and unable to retire even though you worked hard your whole life is the problem

[@Ghostisback24444]

Exactly

[@npbarnhill]

40-50 hours a week isn't a big deal, but when you're home your job should leave you alone unless you're specifically on call. I always try to respect my employees' personal time.

[@silver9wolf6]

Thank you! One of my first job did not respect that personal time and it was not cool.

[@RAVajayEN]

Yes man I am just an intern but I work 60 hours a week and they don't leave you alone after you get to home too honestly just feels like a machine at this point and so scared to get a actual job

[@silver9wolf6]

@@RAVajayEN especially as an intern that's ridiculous! What industry are you in? My first gig I was an 'intern' but was basically doing the same work as one of regular employee while getting paid minimum wage because I was a student. I was happy to find out that not all jobs are like that, there are decent ones out there, don't give up!

[@RAVajayEN]

@@silver9wolf6 Architecture not every place is like this but some are

[@silver9wolf6]

@@RAVajayEN that's a bummer, I'm sorry. But architecture sounds cool, I hope you'll be able to find a good job after this internship!

[@Lola-zy2vs]

I would rather work all day on a farm with my family than in an office away from them. That sounds soul-killing.

[@heycj]

And that's the difference between the two. One is fulfilling while the other kills you.

[@urbaneducator2231]

Young people think work should be fun! It is called work as it is a means to the other 16 hrs of your day to find joy!

[@gimygaming8655]

@lindavirginie6158 lol right? Add college onto that if you are just starting out

[@gimygaming8655]

@urbaneducator2231 I work 9-5 and LOVE my job. I work at Walmart and it is the best job ever. I am constantly running, meeting new people, and making others happy. Work can be fun. Just about attitude and how you look at it

[@SPla488]

okay, now what is your job? in farm or company?

[@petersmith9935]

Yea I agree with most of these vids. It’s not the 40hour work week. It’s the lack of work life balance then on top of it insultingly low pay

[@micahkiyimba8641]

The Pauly is too low and they expect to take.more of your time.

[@DadPun]

Normally agree with a lot brett has to say, but wow she is way off with this one. But is understandable as she hasnt experienced what working life is like when you only have the option of basic job opportunities. There is no reward for working harder and longer hours.

[@MyraLouise]

You haven't heard her job history then lol yes, she is fortunate but she still worked hard to get where she is.

[@letsRumble814]

She worked as a waitress and worked for a department store for 5 years lol

[@notinservice7112]

@@letsRumble814 Still had the fortune to brought into the spotlight by people like Ben Shapiro, the Daily Wire, etc. Can’t say the same for others. If she was just a girl with her own KZbin channel, she wouldn’t be making nearly as much as she does now. And I get it, don’t hate the player, hate the game, but don’t go around throwing her in conversations of coming from the ground up as if she did it all on her own.

[@letsRumble814]

​@@notinservice7112She was employed by DW and like most companies, the current employees/ coworkers always help out​ new recruits, so i don't understand your point. It's like me getting a 6 figure job and you seeing it as something bad because I was had the "fortune " of getting a 6 figure job when I likely worked hard on my education and self to get to that point

[@notinservice7112]

@@letsRumble814 Depends on what your 6 figure job is and other factors that played into it. Did your 6 figure job require years of school and did your parents pay for your education, if so, same thing applies. Just because you work hard at an opportunity that was granted to you doesn’t consider you someone who came from the ground up.

[@danielsoya8435]

I don’t disagree with the girl honestly, work is work and home is home. Boundaries are very healthy. Jobs that expect to cross that line better be paying me at least 200k a year…

[@lunalee3021]

Yup, the first girl is totally right. "Why don't just quit lol??" Maybe she did! I was in that situation before and finally quit eventually because it was hell. Good for weirdo brett if she enjoys that. It's definitely not traditional, that's for sure. Conservative companies are the worst offenders, I bet her video editors are also in hell as she speaks.

[@Iliadic]

1:00 If I have clocked out, I no longer am working. I will work for what I get paid. If I am not actively being paid, I do not work. How is this a hard concept for people to grasp?

[@earthstar7534]

What? Stop opposing slavery, such an entitled view. //sarcasm//

[@johnmcnamara8741]

But what about poor corporate America? Did you not think of them with yourself statement? The nerve of wanting to work and be paid for it 😂( sarcasm for those who don’t speak it)

[@DavidLyles]

As someone who used to work 70+ hour work weeks in the past, I can agree with the ridiculous expectations of some of these jobs. I’d rather be a farmer with my cousin tbh, I don’t know him that well though could be awkward to ask.

[@bygraceonly182]

Farmers work HARD and the clock doesn’t stop but it’s wonderfully rewarding (when things are going right). And I only have a small homestead.

[@nikkig4847]

Do it

[@Panda-poison]

It all looks perfect until the weather fucks you up or pests i have worked in afarm and i can tell you its a gruelling task you start early and dig plant till the sun goes up i say workin a 9 to 5 is better than farm work unless you are resilient and observant and hard realy hardworking

[@definitelyahair5339]

Who cares? Might as well get to know him now. Job will be hard but if you prefer it you can do it.

[@donkramer8848]

I’m a farmer and work far far more then 60 hours a week, and it’s seven days a week or stuff starts dying, so yea stick to the office!

[@WhatifAltHist]

I disagree with Brett on this one. The social contract between employer and employee is completely broken. A combination of globalization, immigration, population growth, automatic etc… killed average wages, which means for most young people there’s no benefit to working hard in a lot of cases. A lot of my friends are from working class backgrounds and they’re basically f**** no matter what they do. Our society treats common working people with contempt. A lot of young people also worked their asses off in high school only to realize it didn’t really matter and they’re still screwed.

[@calistafalcontail]

I am a millenial who works 40 hours a week and you are off on this one Brett...love you, but there are many issues with todays workforce for sure. Previous generations got burned out and depressed from their jobs too...sucking it up didnt do much for them either and you cant even afford the same stuff they could afford today with your full time salary.

[@Balmorax]

How would she know, she yaps on KZbin for a living showing off her pretty face. OnlyFans basically.

[@TyM1108]

What's your solution? People like you are constantly complaining but don't provide any answers

[@GearForTheYear]

⁠@@TyM1108uhhh pay workers what they’re worth and reduce the hours they are required to work to get full benefits? Oh, wait, that would mean that CEOs and investment boards have to take a cut in their $25m+/yr salaries and bonuses. Sorry, how unreasonable of me to suggest.

[@NerdialYT]

@@TyM1108 at my job they changed some rules. for 40 hours a week, we're not allowed to drink water even though the area i work in is int he hot sun most of the day or walking non stop miles a day around the whole store and we're not allowed water, on top of that they cut some of my workers pay from 18 down to 16, while our rent is going up to mroe htna 1,000 for just one bed room apt, you HAVE to work more to even afford gas anymore, kiss the wanting to get away trip without going broke trip away because you can't afford it. As well as, I want to go to college, but so many people who went into college have harmful amounts of debt that they can't pay because of just how bad everything has gotten. definitely raise the price of pay, let us drink water, let us go bathroom like we need, let us actually live and survive instead of slave away for nothing

[@TyM1108]

@GearForTheYear so in other words, pay people more to work less hours. Here's the thing, I don't totally disagree with you, but if I work my ass off to build up a multi-million dollar company, I'm gonna go home with a multi-million dollar salary. A lot of the time when people are complaining, it's not because they don't get paid a fair wage. It's that they just don't want to work. Plus, the works need the job more than the owners and CEOs need them. There are plenty of people who need jobs and are willing to do the work. I speak from experience. I'm a welder who probably doesn't get paid as much as I should for what I do, but there's a whole bunch of people who are ready and willing to take my job if I start complaining about it.

[@PureBeauty511]

I'm a small business owner who also works part-time retail and what frustrates me the most is that my work schedule is constantly changing from week to week, which means it's very difficult to make commitments outside of work. I'm fairly young still and I want to make more friends and get married. How am I going to do that if I can't commit to anybody besides my bosses, who can change my schedule on a whim if they want to? AND the company refuses to let us hire enough people, so we have other people to switch shifts with. All large companies are penny pinchers. I'm working on building my business because I am my biggest advocate for the life I want. As much as our conventional jobs claim to care about us at the bottom of the totem pole-- who actually make the company what it is by selling the products-- they just do not care, nor will they ever care. Time is the most precious resource we have and the fact that Gen Z is concerned about how we are spending it is more than acceptable.

[@zonefreakman]

Definitely. Seeing Gen z be more assertive about themselves than their parents were is a pretty positive thing. They've gone through a lot of broken homes because their parents were overworked and didn't spend enough time with their family or on their personal lives.

[@StephiBauduhin]

I’m a millennial and I have no issues with working, but when the system is rigged, you start questioning the whole thing… particularly on the corporate side, where you are required to give up everything else/ they own your life in order for you to make a good salary. And if you dare ask for an actual “9-5pm job” with an actual lunch break, then you don’t make enough. Also salaries have NOT gone up to match the crazy inflation, so one ends up feeling scammed! So good on gen z for wanting something different.

[@TeenageDirtbag8]

agree preach

[@corey552]

Well, for starters. It would impossible for salaries to match the rates of inflation weve seen because its not naturally occuring inflation. It was created by massive government overspending. Theres no way wages could keep up.

[@CheerfullyCynical829]

To make a lot of money, you have to get a job that is in short supply, high demand, and be very, VERY good at it. Does that sound like you?

[@BodiCampbell]

It's rigged. I have no job, and I still have more money than I ever did when I worked

[@MrPudii]

How are you required to give up everything else to make a good salary? I swear people just love to play the victim. People really acting like going to college/trade school/etc. for 2-8 years is really the end of the world as we know it. If you have a shit job that's on you, period take some accountability for yourself and your actions or lack thereof. It's not about working as hard as you can its about creating impact and opportunity to climb the corporate ladder. The hardest worker is never the most paid worker, everyone SHOULD know that by now. We were all 18 once had access to the internet and tons of free resources to actually research your intended career path before jumping in head first. It's not the world's problem or the system's problem that most of these folks did zero research and either rushed into the workforce taking unskilled jobs or took up crappy majors/programs with no job prospects/future. But, yeah lets keep blaming the system for their utter lack of planning - while the rest of us who made good life decisions keep making money and loving life.

[@Ironed-Silver]

No surprise that Brett, whose job it is to do ad reads, doesn't understand the misery of a dead-end, soul crushing job with an ever dwindling purchasing power.

[@afterhours1969]

You’re so right. Brett just came out of the womb with her job at the Daily Wire.

[@Ironed-Silver]

@@afterhours1969 Your words. Not mine. Nice try

[@afterhours1969]

@@Ironed-Silver I was being facetious. But I guess ya have to be smart to really get it. I’m not scared of what I said.

[@afterhours1969]

@@SoSkepticalFox I’ve worked in factories, been a janitor. Now that is some monotonous 8-4 shit. I didn’t love my job but I was raised to value hard work. But that’s the problem now. Average blue collar people can work their asses off and get little in return. It’s not the job per say but the lack of benefits. I’m saying this everywhere on YT but it’s actually the push for socialism. The system makes the cost of living high so your only choices are to work less or not at all and let the government assist you or essentially work paycheck to paycheck even with training or a degree. Now which sounds more appealing to younger people? It is forced bankruptcy and forced socialism. Corrupt. And this is not to just blame Democrats. It’s to blame the people in power that we pay. It’s sick.

[@Hanah-do9jl]

Agreed usually I like her content but this is tone deaf as fuck…get back to me when you’re 10 years into working an 8-5 and can barely afford things Brett.

[@bjkofron]

Honestly, the younger generations aren't complaining any more or saying anything different than us older ones. It's just that with social media, they have a larger audience. I remember saying many of the same things in my late teens & early twenties, but I only had a few dozen friends and family to hear me bitching. Also, inflation has continuously outstripped income year after year. A lot needs to change, but in 39 years of working (started delivering papers at 11) I still haven't figured it out.

[@47HOOKERGOAT]

umm im 50 and figured it out when i was 25

[@bjkofron]

@@47HOOKERGOAT So, 25 years ago, you figured out how to change everything so that income & inflation are more balanced? Why haven't you done it yet?

[@mysticstrikeforce5957]

@@bjkofron I think that person just did. Read the person comment more carefully

[@paulavery5889]

I'm probably right in between your generation and theirs. When I was younger we were just happy to be able to find a job. Most companies prefer younger people and the irony is none of them want to work now.

[@TB12Fan178]

I like your content but I can't lie... the people complaining about working probably don't get paid millions for having a talk show

[@saulgoodman2018]

Yeah, she was way off on this.

[@monospaperbag]

for real. only people who actually have to work can judge this accurately

[@Paul_Atreides]

She’s a propaganda machine for Rhinos what did you expect

[@jasonmartin7711]

Brett worked really hard to get " that job " you are referring to..

[@TyM1108]

You do realize that a lot of people that make millions from starting companies and being entrepreneurs are working like 60-80 hour work weeks right? Brett just got lucky because she is very likable

[@DanielTheCanadianOne]

I'm all for working hard but I do agree that there needs to be a work/life balance. Work hard/play hard. If your work requires you to answer emails after you get home and on weekend, sure if you agree to that, but you better be compensated for that. If your job impedes on your family and friends time, there is an issue. Remember you work to live, not live to work. Find a employer/career that respects you and you will be a lot happier and productive in every area of your life.

[@Christopher-qq4dl]

Lol

[@chadsteele1]

Work hard should be work hard your whole life for little to nothing. Work life balance, 40 hours a week ain't it.

[@alexiatrott2714]

The internet has destroyed the boundary between work life and home life. It’s not a very “based” move to be promoting parents be mentally absent though they may be physically there at home because their employer has them be on-call or glued to their phone/laptop checking emails.

[@lucasdevore5443]

The way life is now, 40 hrs a week is a near death sentence for normal americans. I work 70 plus hrs a week for years now and im just getting by with all the inflation. Im not making shit money either its just harder now but we all gotta keep pushing especially for our kids. I sacrifice alot just to do right by them.

[@mima_piedade]

And the compensation shouldn't always be money, If I am expected to be available whenever I'm needed then I want freedom whenever when I'm not, that was the setup on my previous job, very often that had me working way past work time, sometimes in weekends, but was allowed to do so at home, of leave early, or take a day off without much hassle, but they there was some changes in HR and all my benefits where gone along with part of my pay and they expected the same level of commitment, work quickly became unbearable so I quit and have been working independently for almost a year now, I'm making almost the same, but spending less on transportation and food.

[@hsblw_6]

No. Work should be PART of our lives, not THE MAIN part. I'm 27 and I hope I'm retiring in 8 years max. I don't wanna be super rich or have an amazing carreer. I just want to have a family and time to spend doing things I like.

[@Smoove_J]

Retiring at 35 is very ambitious. Most people are just starting to hit their stride at that age, professionally speaking.

[@aaronadamson7463]

Sounds like you would be at home in the F.I.R.E. community. It is doable if you think the juice is worth the squeeze, I wish you luck in your endeavor!

[@paulinesophie7683]

I find it quite funny and ironic that Brett is part of Gen Z as well and as a youtuber, who can decided for herself how and when she wants to work (not saying she is not working hard) is judging people her own age who are saying why do I have to work from 9 to 5 when that job makes me miserable and is not paying for a good lifestyle meaning it can pay for all the necessities but also for something fun, for hobbies, for going out once in a while. And at the same time the bosses of Gen Z make way more and they say 'you just have to work hard' and who are part of a generation where one salery would pay for all. Sorry girl, but you didn't research this well. I know there are always people who complain more then they should. But you missed the point with this one.

[@paulinesophie7683]

@@jacoboc2244 Okay so what if she is lucky, what does that have to with what I commented? It feels a bit insensitive to make a video like this to her peers seeing what she does for a job. She could also not have made this video

[@nappa3550]

This comment implies the basic necessities are even met. I like your comment tho

[@paulinesophie7683]

@@jacoboc2244 then it's even more insensitive (at least to me) that she made that video.

[@mj63677]

I think that the complaining is bs back then was harder in terms of balancing life with work and the people in the pass just dealt with it this generation is too soft fun and hobbies are for people who have time for it you can quit and make time for hobbies and fun or just work your ass off and invest your money until your financially free balance is not something that is easily achieved when it comes to anything in life

[@brotendo]

@@paulinesophie7683 You act like she doesn't have producers and script writers. That's how naive you are and what little you understand of the world. Brett likely works more than 40 hours a week because she doesn't own this channel.

[@Dreabz617]

I regularly answer work emails when I’m at home and work late/ on the weekends. However, it’s never been part of my job requirement. Unless you want your workforce to burn out, it shouldn’t be a requirement. Just look at what’s am happening in Korea, Japan and China. That’s a no for me, especially if it’s salary. Ppl have a right to spend time with their families.

[@XChainerKid]

I am a teacher at the Gen Y cutoff, and i’m going to stick up for my Gen Z buddies here. Think about kids in school today. Schools waste hundreds of hours indoctrinating kids into believing in ideological crap that will never help them in life. Kindergarten is the new first grade, where they now have homework and worksheets at the age of 5. The average 2nd grader and up absolutely hates school by the time they are 7 or 8 years old. Ten years later they graduate, being told they must go to college in order to have any chance of success. My High School NEVER ONCE MENTIONED trade schools, where you can learn a skill and become your own boss. There is more pressure for kids to do well in school now than ever before. Then they go too college for 4 or 5 years for a worthless bachelor’s degree and a massive amount of debt. They are completely burnt out from about 17-18 consecutive years of school (K-12 + 4-5 years of college) as soon as they enter the workforce. Bachelor Degrees don’t necessarily help you get a job, they just tell employees that you are likely young, naive, and hungry to work a job. So they take advantage of your situation and hire you for a low amount of money. I think that not wanting to work a 9-5 job Monday through Friday is ridiculous. Even better, work 42 or 43 hours that week and get some overtime. However, where I will defend Gen Z is that the modern day American workplace is so dysfunctional that they now require you to come in and work on weekends, and respond to emails after work. Seriously? Hell no. I don’t even fill out applications for those jobs. If I feel like working on the weekend, you will pay me overtime for it. Simple as that. If not then screw off. I absolutely agree with the first girl.

[@JohnReedy07163]

If a company tells you to work outside of business hours because they know that they'll suffer otherwise is a bad company. I work in construction, I'm easily 8-10 hours in the field and a couple extra in the evenings. That's not forced, I just want to provide a good product not only for my company but for our customers. But this idea that I am forced to work extra or on weekends does piss me off, and the idea that I need to do it for 37 more years (I'm 28) does make me question the system. Like why couldn't they have thought of a 3 day week? Why can't we hire more people? Why can't we make it so people don't feel overwhelmed? It's valid to question the system, but it's also valid that when you like what you do, you will naturally put in the extra effort without them demanding it.

[@ohifonlyx33]

My problem as a kid is that I could never imagine myself as anything. I never knew what I wanted to be. My problem as an adult is the same, but also with a lack of experience or qualifications.

[@JustinDaniels]

Same.

[@CuriousCattery]

Do you enjoy anything at all? Chocolate, music, movies, video games? You could make/review/market one of them?

[@sliver-fox-thot-patrol]

Same. Never knew what I wanted to do, no passions or interests. I'll just work retail until I die.

[@davidriedy5977]

pretty similar to me tbh

[@luket3452]

I hate when the people who hire you based on what they asked you in interviews regarding your qualifications get butthurt when they assign you something that you don’t know how to do and was NOT part of the interview OR job description

[@SliderFury1]

"Other duties as assigned"

[@luket3452]

@@SliderFury1 yeah the vague wording they use to get away with such shenanigans

[@JmacNYCT]

You're 21...and you'll understand in 15 or so years why everyone gripes about this, not just gen z. The commute wears you down, the constant turnover of administration which ultimately remains the same is unmotivating, and then finally realizing if you left your job, a replacement employee will make you forgetable in just a few months. Find time for yourself and your family. Sleep in, curl up with your dog for that extra minute, and savor that coffee. Travel. Ask your parents questions about when they were young before they are not there to share them. Life is short...

[@andreamccully9035]

The only problem with your comment is that you can't do that in this economy.

[@JmacNYCT]

⁠​⁠@@andreamccully9035finding a couple extra minutes here and there to cuddle with pets, talk to your parents, and savor some coffee or tea is all free. But I hear you on the economy. I’ve been a teacher for almost 20 years and I’ve always felt like I’m just getting by. That’s why I try and treat myself to those things that are free. Good luck!

[@trenchcoatmafioso]

I'm 52. I'm glad young people are not interested in jobs in a broken system that no longer pay a living wage. I don't know a better way, but I hope they figure out something new.

[@FilthyMcNasty69]

Yeah, theyre just insufferable social media "influencers" now.

[@sjoerdderks4731]

If 40 hours is enough to run a household, it will be easier to customzie lifestyle so to say. You can go traditional with the man working the 40 and the wife stays home. And if the wife does want a job, the man should be allowed to work a little less so he is able to spend more time with his children.

[@chrispolerd]

Alright normally I agree with most of what Brett says but not on this one. And normally I don't even bother to write comments in KZbin. Here's a story for all of you saying "just work harder". For context, I am a citizen of Greece and I will be speaking on behalf of the working conditions that you will most commonly find in Greece. A couple of years back, I got my second diploma in Information technology and began my internship in a huge construction company. I was not being paid for the whole year that it took me to actually become an employee in that company because you're supposed to be there to learn, yet I worked just as much as normal employees do. After my internship my salary was 650 euros. Yes 650. Since it was my first job and I needed experience in the work field, I took it (the fact that the IT department had very good guys and manager in it helped me quite a lot with the work load that we had). One month after becoming a full employee, the management decided that we needed a second headquarters building. They didn't hire anyone new, they just decided we are gonna leave behind this new guy in the IT department to handle 300+ employees (networks, servers etc. ) on his own, while we will take the rest of the IT team to the other building. And there I was, a guy with very little experience, working 9-5 and sometimes even more (if there was a technical issue for example) handling the whole headquarters on my own for 650$. I tried to stand it for as long as possible so that I can get more experience in my portfolio and every day that passed by was a living hell. Some days I literally had no time to pee during the entire 8 hours of work. One year later, I was fired for talking back to one of the superiors (Superiority complex, I just explained to him something he was asking for could not be done). I got to say that instead of being sad, I was relieved. I took the much needed time to enjoy the summer on some of our Islands with a couple of friends and now I'm in the process of finding another job (3 offers the one worse than the other). Yeah, work hard my *ss. What incentive do I have? I am a human being and I have a life outside of work. Sometimes I even wonder what do rich people do with all that money and greed. You are not taking them with you to the other side ffs. P.S Sorry for any grammatical or Orthographical mistake I may have made. English is my second language. Also not gen Z, Millennial.

[@davidfalkenrath9614]

Typical European attitude. No wonder you have to import workers from the third world.

[@kirito3082]

I'm also millennial and I fully agree, the reason I'm turning to entrepreneurship is because inflation (true inflation, not bullshit, government reported inflation) is high and salaries are low, I reject making this level of effort for such a low salary, never in human history people had to work so much for a home and this purely a government created problem

[@elyriabn3468]

European millennial here and as a fellow European, I 100% get your point! I used to work in Greece, tourism on Rhodos, and what my fellow colleagues told me about their working hours and compensation… no words! I also only got paid € 850 a month (if you’re not European: That’s nearly how much you pay for rent and water only in most bigger western European cities), but as no one got paid fairly, I didn’t want to complain…

[@sandroribeiro7644]

In Portugal is similar to this, the government keeps rising the minimum wage but all others keep still, which means people that 5 years ago were winning 300€ more thsn minimum wage, today they earn minimum wage or something similar. A teacher with 40 years of XP, will have the same wage as a 10years or less teacher. So why should most people work hard if only a few get rewarded for that. One tip is asking the older colleagues if their wage is higher than when they started and how much higher It is.

[@Brain320]

Same here buddy, "xennial" here, two diplomas, 15 years of work experience, 997eur per month, pretty much 24/7 and handling 300+ people. Looking for a new job but yeah getting fired wouldn't upset me one bit. They are lucky I have a strong sense of personal responsibility, morality and that I care for those 300+ people, so I kill myself to do the job, otherwise they would have huge issues... Of course on the job interview the deal was strict 9-5, no overtime, no homework, no weekends and all that with mentoring and support, none of that was true...

[@S-E-P-96]

I feel like it’s kind of ironic coming from person like Brett who has chosen a very unconventional way of working, and is telling everyone no you have to work a 9-5 job. This generation is looking for work that actually allows themselves to have a life and in some cases they can actually say they enjoy and is worth their time. And not always being tied down to a life that revolves around work.

[@katherineinahoodie]

I know, right?? Brett is great, but I completely disagree with her on this one. I don't think anyone wants to do the same boring job for years and years, and Brett has a really interesting job. Is it bad to want to enjoy your job as much as she does??

[@S-E-P-96]

@@katherineinahoodie Right, I think she’s good to cause she gives a younger spin on a lot of old fashioned things. But almost all of the posts she’s was reacting to were normal common sense arguments none of them were like I don’t want to work. They were were all sharing their experiences In the work force and wanting a healthy work life while also wanting to prioritise themselves and their sanity. Idk why that translated into negatives to her. I would think that she would know from experience that enjoying your job and having a life outside of that contributes to people being motivated to work. Idk why of all things she decided to lecture and judge others when she doesn’t work a 9-5 herself.

[@c0quetted0llx]

​@@S-E-P-96fr and she probably makes a lot of money through social media so i don't think she understands how draining and unrewarding 9-5 jobs can be.

[@vincedibona4687]

You people. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@popuri48]

@@vincedibona4687 Are they wrong tho? :P

[@allisonlucas018]

The problem is that our 9-5 jobs don't pay living wages (at least as someone living in Ontario, Canada). I work 7.5 hour days, 5 days a week. I dont complain about it. My bf and I have both been saving over the past 5 years of us both working and are saving up for a house once we're married. It takes hard work. We've also talked about how we want to get good at investing so that one day we will have a decent amount of extra money per month coming in that we can afford for me to be a stay at home mom to homeschool our future kids.

[@Daughter_of_the_MostHigh]

True and it makes it not worth it you have to work 6-7 days a week to be able to live paycheck to paycheck, or 2 jobs, people are fed up

[@shanetheliver]

The only people I ever hear complaining about other people not wanting to work are people with great jobs who get paid very well. If you don't have either of those things, it can be a waking nightmare.

[@earthstar7534]

75% of the jobs in America pay less than 40k a year. We still need low skill labor. They deserve to be paid better. There literally aren't better jobs for everyone.

[@AimbotFreak]

​@@earthstar7534Define low skill labor.

[@Elucidus4]

But most of the people with better jobs, had those shitty jobs and worked through it, while developing skills that pay better that they don't mind doing.

[@shanetheliver]

That may be the case for some people, but I have yet to see that be the case for myself or any of my peers. The ones for whom I have seen that be the case developed those skills outside of the workforce.@@Elucidus4

[@AimbotFreak]

@@Elucidus4 No, those people have better jobs because they left the jobs that were shit. Companies are in need of good and ethical workers as much as workers are in need of money, maybe even more. Skill development isn't something a dead end job will actually teach you. A lot of companies realize that a healthy and work environment results in not only an employee working more ethically but also overall costs going down. Sadly Nepotism, incompetence and the ignorance of the average working masses keep shit jobs existing. There are also idiots who buy into concepts like "Minimum wage job" or "unskilled labor". Both things created as a way essentially to underpay and abuse workers, and in the states to feed into the student debt scam that universities run.

[@mcsmoothie7052]

Imagine a gen z KZbinr chick who went from being an actress to doing reaction videos , telling people with valid complaints about their real jobs to “ well, just get another job, bro”.

[@Cupcake_Royale]

Oh ya, I totally forgot she did acting before. That’s another reason why she shouldn’t be covering topics like these. And if she does, she should atleast try to consider what the person working feels.

[@mcsmoothie7052]

@@Cupcake_Royale Michael Knowles was also an E-list actor and Matt Walsh was an E-list radio guy. Never a real job between them as far as I know. I don’t know why I watch sometimes. Daily Wire is definitely my least favorite conservative leaning content platform. They are establishment RINOS to the max, spouting out 80’s era RNC talking points and acting like it’s entertaining. I know throwing around the term “ boomer” is cringe, but it really does fit DW perfectly.

[@aliaflow6877]

Exactly

[@holdupwaitaminute.]

One of the best examples of working hours is by Kevin O Leary from the show Shark Tank. After the pandemic, he has all of his employees to be allowed to work remotely UNLESS they really ‘need’ to be in the office. He doesn’t care if you work from 9-5 or until 2AM, he only cares if you get your work done before the deadline. And that’s the future of working 😊

[@Elucidus4]

That's the way it needs to be and the way I have been working since 2019. Thankfully there are a lot of work from home jobs out there with this concept. They are often skill-based so people will want to work towards those skills if they don't have them, find the ones they don't mind doing on a daily basis.

[@jbird4478]

My job is somewhat like that, but it does come with its downsides. If needed I do sometimes have days of 16 hours or so, and that might even be in the weekends. On the upside however, I also have plenty of days where I don't do anything at all. For me it works out great, but if you're not careful that balance can easily go in the wrong direction.

[@tamarasky2043]

Brett is literally being tone deaf to this work issue , I completely disagree with her. She doesn’t understand the limited amount of good paying jobs. No one has a work life balance anymore you’re just constantly burning out and all you wanna do is just go home and sleep after slaving away for over 50 hours a week for $14 an hour.

[@Iliadic]

It's not that we don't want to work, it's that working doesn't even benefit the employees anymore. It seems worthless because for the majority of people it doesn't even cover basic expenses like Rent and Utilities. Or if it does, it leaves you with all of $2 to spend on yourself.

[@silasreade]

This!

[@captainmerca341]

That's 100% democrats fault.

[@SarahG-vz3ki]

Exactly

[@Zathren]

Hate to tell you this, but you not being able to afford living expenses is you're fault. I'm several dollars over minimum wage in my state, working retail, and I've got plenty of money every month. Pay all my bills, my share of the rent, with money left over to do fun stuff. Change states so you don't pay 1k+ for rent, and learn to spend money wisely. I'll happily do overtime, for time-and-a-half. I'm not doing extra work for regular pay.

[@GearForTheYear]

@@Zathren Moving isn't an option for everyone, and uprooting your life like that can have serious, if not fatal, consequences for some people -- especially the ones that are struggling. Individualism has been taken to the extreme and the entire country is suffering because of it.

[@robertsteinberger5667]

Answering emails when at home? Working on saturday sometimes? This is ridiculous. No tespect for a healthy balance. Why do people stick up more for employers than for employees? Atent most of us employees?

[@tony_5156]

Some people seem to love the taste of bootpolish

[@davideikenberry]

Seems like you might be an eminently forgettable employee. You should quit and find something you enjoy doing.

[@tarrickmerdev2324]

Because most companies don't get to just shut down at 5pm and start back up at 8am but can't afford to run fully staffed 24/7. You're welcome to do the bare minimum but you must also expect the bare minimum. Don't complain about not having any advancement in your job or increased wage/salary if you can't be bothered to show that you can handle the additional responsibility of advanced positions or that you're worth the higher pay.

[@robertsteinberger5667]

@@davideikenberry well, I live in the Netherlands and there only for emergencies in special jobs you can get harassed during out of office hours. Even for companies like Cargill.......

[@robertsteinberger5667]

@@tarrickmerdev2324 that is the problem of the usa, you only stick up for employers and not employees. I live in the Netherlands. How many holidays do we get? When work is over, only for emergencies you will get contacted. In the usa it became normal while it shouldnt be that you can get bothered outside of work. I guess you guys dont appreciate your private life.

[@dylanc2516]

It's not that most of us don't want to work. We're just fed up working 6 days a week to barely afford a 1 bedroom apartment...

[@rlsjunior797]

It’s not for everyone but there’s a huge shortage of truck drivers at the moment. I’m home everyday and work 4 days a week, 14 hour shifts but I can always catch up on sleep on one of my 3 days off. The money is pretty good, definitely more than a livable wage even with todays cost of living.

[@TomlinsTE]

It's difficult to start out because you bear all the expenses alone and haven't upgraded to more significant positions with better pay and raises. It gets easier as you level up.

[@paytonyoder1260]

Move somewhere that’s less expensive, or just save up money by doing inexpensive things. There’s nothing wrong with a 1 bedroom apartment.

[@rhea9019]

My uncle always told us “you can either find a job you love where every day never feels like work. or you can find a job that pays enough to do what you love” My dad is a social worker (25 years now) who’s current position has him working on the software and giving access to things. He will work for 15-24 hours STRAIGHT doing the job if 4 people. even when he’s on vacation he will get calls asking how to fix something. Dad doesn’t mind because he’s done it for so long what will take a new person 3 hours to fix takes him 5 minutes. Not everyone likes being contacted outside office hours and that’s okay! There needs to be a work-life balance. You shouldn’t have to work 24/7 then you die not being around do what you love.

[@user-fw3vv4id5z]

I totally get that first girl. I went to a job interview where the terms were very similar. It wasn't 6 days a week, but there was no fixed schedule, and THEN, I was told to also look at emails after work and even do routine work tasks at night from my computer (so, these were all extra hours that would never get paid). Even if I were on my holidays, I'd have to do these tasks. The salary for all this was just hilarious, considering it was a big city and the cost of living is currently over the roof. Not to mention a part of the salary would be held in a "retirement" account which meant I couldn't really use that money when I wanted to. I refused the offer and eventually moved to the countryside.

[@MiningBlock]

My dad worked at a print shop and my mom worked as a police dispatcher part time both making near minimum wage in CT and they still were able to have 3 kids and afford a house - I couldn’t even fathom having 3 kids and being able to afford a house in any decent area without a big tech 200k+ salary. My problem isn’t that I have to work, it’s that I have to work to just survive

[@TeenageDirtbag8]

agree

[@Afineaddition]

The sad state of things, man. My grandparents were able to survive on blue-collar jobs, own and maintain a fairly large house, and put my dad through college.

[@mysticstrikeforce5957]

But hey if your parents can do it than so can u

[@silver9wolf6]

I was a bit concerned at the beginning of this video, but you actually brought it back to a positive at the end! I think Gen Z and people today have both ends of the spectrum when it comes to being discontent at work. One is to just complain and drag your feet, the other, to let that frustration push you to change it. I think a lot of the older generation equates a 9-5 to hard work and responsibility, while younger generations just see it as a cage. I think it comes down to having a good work ethic. I work 40hrs a week but my employer trusts me to get the work done and so i can pick my own hours and work from home. I think the disconnect is where older generations look down on Gen Z for being lazy and miss the people who are just working hard in a different way. Also, i'm down for shorter work weeks if it means incentives to just be more efficient with your time. If you can do the same amount of work in 20hrs than in 40hrs, because there's a lot of bloat in set hours and no incentives, then let's do that. But it requires people to actually do the work and not take advantage of it, so for now, i think it's better on a business by business format rather than a system restructure. :)

[@danhair]

I am really curious what your 40 hours of work in the office look like Brett.

[@omegavague9042]

Exaaaaactly

[@Orbitinbloom19018]

She does literally nothing all day

[@quv2035]

@@Orbitinbloom19018 Surely she got her YT equipment by doing nothing man people can be so asinine she obviously has to make living elsewhere lmao

[@quv2035]

@@Orbitinbloom19018 If she was a basement dweller in her parents house then I could see your point

[@Orbitinbloom19018]

@@quv2035 do you people think capital only appears trough hard work like are y’all that obtuse

[@HPTFan]

Interesting topic, Brett. Jobs, careers, it comes and go. I know what it feels like working 5 to 6 days of the week, not having enough hours to work to earn more money, working overtime, getting burnout, nothing is getting better. I took risks to get a better pay jobs, got taken advantage of by corporate employers who never care about me, quit, got another job, and it got a little better. This past March, I lost my delivery job because the previous employee made mistakes, the team I was in, lost the zip codes, including what it was mine, the other boss didn't wanted me because he has his own drivers. We are still in difficult times. I do want everybody to be happy. I do believe the younger generations will make a positive impact. I hope you are staying safe, and thank you for the video. Keep on living.

[@jeremiahmud]

Brett, you have a job you love that pays really well. Most people don't

[@davidz3879]

Yes, she loves her high-paid job & single, no-kids life as she insists that her followers become 1950s-style trad wives.

[@neurotic3015]

She didn't say anything about that? What is this a response to bruh?

[@katierucker2870]

My thoughts exactly lol

[@vincedibona4687]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[@davidz3879]

@@neurotic3015 She's telling people to work hard despite her not doing so.

[@bbqbros3648]

You are right and wrong here Brett. Yes many things are better today- past generations were hard workers. But a HUGE part of that was that they earned more (comparatively) to us. And their jobs generally were not keeping them at a desk all day. There’s a disconnect between us and boomers who (like every generation) thinks they are much harder workers- but they grew up in a world that was more likely to reward them. Boomers think we are lazy because we can’t afford what they could.

[@abdulrahmanmahayni7473]

@@jacoboc2244you’re the joke here if you believe an entire generation is like that. Stop living on the internet because that’s what the internet will make you think

[@coonhound_pharaoh]

Boomers think you are lazy, but don't realize you can't afford what they could because of their social security paychecks. Abolish Social Security for everyone immediately.

[@X-Prime123]

Boomers are dipsh*ts. They hoarded homes as investments, bought them low because nobody was hoarding homes back then. Now they want you to compete with the prices they created. Where I live in Canada, a starter townhouse goes for 600 000$ Canadian. Same townhouse 15 years ago? 120 000$.

[@kazuma_05]

​@@jacoboc2244this is true plus people tend to buy so much luxurious stuff they don't need, latest iphone, latest fashion, etc., Most Americans spend exorbitant amounts of money for food like coffee for $15 dollars and avocado toast for $20, that where most of your income goes to, gym membership, clubbing and booze, all these add up. You can easily cut down on your expenses by cooking your own meal, making your own coffee, etc., what I'm trying to say is that if you live a simple life then maybe your income can take care of your necessaties. Just saying...

[@dusttodust915]

Biden administration sure as hell didn't help the situation we're in now.

[@danhair]

For anyone who says: “Brett is out of touch with this one.” Guys she is literally working for a Digital Media company. She has a boss that tells her what to say and not say. They are never going to support unions or ideas that they would be forced to apply themselves. You are never going to hear Ben support Unions even if workers lose their fingers or sanity, Ben’s workers would immediately form a Union and start making demands from him. (“We thought you said you supported Unions.”)

[@ReformedSooner24]

We’re not expecting her to support unions but this is a dang retarded take from the DW. But hey, I mostly stopped caring about everyone except for Knowles since the Crowder controversy

[@daniellefrank2572]

My husband works the regular 9-5 and ill be honest, its something that I could never do. Im so happy that I get to be with my babies all day!

[@mikeking683]

Vvoman = lazy

[@g_factking]

That's because most women are lazy and don't want to work

[@Weir.721]

You lucky bastard I'd love to spend the day with my kids instead of hauling fat twats out of buildings rather than my actual job. I'm sure I'll regret that when they're teens but you know.

[@candiceerorita9505]

Same here. 💜 Cheers to our amazing husbands! 🎉

[@agnosticmanquestionsall2409]

Im happy for you but sadly nowadays most jobs don't suffice supporting a family.

[@kimberleyjo_90]

I left my 9-5 corporate job in finance to be a refuse loader (a bin lady). 4 days on, 3 days off (granted the shifts are 10 hours long and the work is physically very demanding)! It's definitely not for everyone. You have to be fit, or you need to at least have the patience to struggle at the start while you improve your fitness and adapt, but I love it! I've always been a very fit and active person who loves to be outside and now I get to work to those strengthes and preferences. As long as all the bins get emptied, the job's done. I walk off site and get to leave work there until the following day. It doesn't come home with me. By the end of the working week, I'm tired but it's the satisfying kind of tired where I know I've earned my rest! Anybody unhappy in corporate work, you can pave your own way! There are lots of jobs out there, not all of them in an office. You just got to get out there and try your hand at different things!

[@chaoticzion6378]

As a millennial It’s more most of us will just drop dead at work and never retire. On extremely unfair wages that won’t even let you afford a place to live.

[@diamondthree]

Brett missed the mark on this one by failing to address the fact that a 60 hour workweek now can't achieve the financial state which prior generations achieved in 40 hour workweeks.

[@RandomOne1999]

I have to work at a paper factory for the next 40 years while some people get to play video games and or make fun of people online. I hate my life.

[@evanpuckettart]

The thing people are complaining about isn't having to work 40 hours a week. It's that only 40 hours isn't enough to sustain most people. Not to mention the single income household is basically a thing of the past.

[@davidz3879]

Millions of people live alone, so their households can't be muti-income.

[@evanpuckettart]

@@davidz3879 I'm referring to married couples when I speak of "single income household" Even then, many of those people have more than one job, and or work overtime just to get by.

[@french_toast_8644]

Brett when young people dont want to sell their soul and 1/3 of their lives to their employer: 😮

[@wilhelmbuzzkyll]

she does it, but her employer is really cool

[@LastMinuteGuess]

Yeah you'd rather lay on your ass and watch Netflix instead of being an actual hard-working adult.

[@ldcow3948]

Especially when she taken what like 3-5 breaks since she joined. I can tell you in most jobs there is no I’ll just pre record something.

[@captainmerca341]

You don't work you don't eat.... it's literally in the Bible you comie.

[@beauregardrippey5508]

Reality sucks, doesnt it.

[@intelon3]

Im not gen z but one thing about the work place I’ve never understood is not sharing salary numbers. I’m not afraid to let those I supervise know what I make so that way when they eventually move up to my position they know what to ask for so they don’t get taken advantage of. If companies were trustworthy we wouldn’t have the need to share salary info

[@mysticstrikeforce5957]

I mean yes and no I don't want people to know how much I make its not good to share that much info. As who knows someone can try to take your spot if they find out u make more then they do

[@vitalii-dan]

40-hour work week sucks. Switching to a 4-day work week increases employee productivity _and_ happiness. Our ancestors worked 12 hours a day, 6 days a week before 8 hours a day and 5 days a week became the norm.

[@Serpent087]

What if I tell you that I'm one of those "ancestors" beeinf stuck in this work-model in 2023?!? Every Month I work above 200 hours & mostly 12-hour shifts with weekends 🎉🎉 🎉🎉 >>> In the fucking slave country #1 Germany

[@cyber2526]

i work 7 to 5 4 days a week, still hate it XD

[@paytonyoder1260]

I don’t know who you are talking about. I’ve worked 10 hours 4 days a week before. It did not increase productivity or happiness.

[@cyber2526]

@@paytonyoder1260 same here, agree 100%

[@dmdjones1595]

I'm all for refomatting the work week. Why not give people more time to live life and spend daytime with friends, family, etc.?

[@dylanking1895]

I see what you’re saying, sooo I’m going to need you to come in for a 2pm to 10pm shift tomorrow, thanks.

[@tony_5156]

Nooo that’s communism!!

[@mankypancakes]

I work a 4 day/32 hour work week. I've told my bosses this is my line in the sand. I've been asked to work 40 hours before, and I've explained that a 20% increase in pay isn't worth 33% less time with my family. My advice - make yourself indispensable so you've got a little leverage.

[@dmdjones1595]

@@dylanking1895 Nice More time for grocery shopping, unrushed lunches, etc.

[@brigette9636]

Older generations were able to survive on one salary.. “working hard” has been redefined.

[@rowanblithe71]

part of the problem is EXACTLY that yes, a lot of people are trying the "side hustle" ... but, like the 1st girl said : you have to "keep up" after 5 ... it usually means: be on call for free 24-7 .. even those "optional" weekend days become "you don't put in the effort" even if all your tasks are complete.. there's always some way you are "less", and the salary is the same, or less as prices go up.

[@fenixburger9314]

My main issue with the work force is that we are treated like shit from companies that have billions of dollars and paid even worse. There is no way to survive at the low price of pay along with the high prices of basic cost of living. As a company you might have the right to under pay your employees but you can't tell everyone to just quit and find a new job when almost every company has taken similar actions. I agree we should all work but we shouldn't all have to kill ourselves slaving away working sometimes two jobs just to make ends meet either.

[@b.j.robison2972]

40 hour work week is fairly modern. I don't know why people go nuts when people are trying to further improve things for the working folks. Like a 4 day work week.

[@mnomadvfx]

Being expected to work after you get home is above and beyond for a standard 40 hr week office job. If you want me to work with that you better be willing to pay me through the nose for it, and that means overtime for all the hours I spend working and not actually resting at home.

[@coldsolitude4417]

I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again and again. 4. DAY. WORK. WEEK. I've looked this up many times, and it has no disadvantages as far as I've seen. 4 Tens or 32 hours whichever one works or just allow schedule flexibility. the only reason why we don't have it now is that the older people in charge of everything didn't have it and if they didn't have we can't have it.

[@link10909]

Lol sure. Let me tell you how life really works. Someone like me (an accountant) at every large company would then be tasked to do some math. That math would be related to the ROI of off-shoring much of their operations to more favorable labor markets. Enjoy the less jobs in the US market then given, the resulting over supply of labor owing to the reduced number of positions in the US there would be negative pressure on wages until equilibrium is reached. Meaning people would make the market rate for 4 days lower than the old salary for 5. People would no doubt need to work a second job so functionally you would have replaced a 5 day work week with a 4 + second job work week. Our (the US's) real problem is globalization has undercut the standard of living for the middle class in America. It is "unnatural" for the middle class to live as well as we expect to when compared to the other nations of the world.

[@coldsolitude4417]

@@link10909 I never said every job had to do this.

[@danhair]

@@link10909you’re gonna be replaced with an AI anyway. At least let’s try to keep humans around with a descent over. Or start getting taxed 70% of the income to pay people’s unemployment fees

[@link10909]

@@danhair Ya I may get replaced by an AI accountant and I am sure that would do the off shoring calculations 10x faster. On the up side it would be easier to directly see the affects of abnormally generous labor policies though.

[@karabryson1070]

They’ve proven this benefits schools as well, boosting the morale of students and teachers. The only possible issue would be if then it becomes we need a 3 day work week and then a 2 day work week and so on. Will we ever be happy? If we can be satisfied with the 4 day week then I agree, it’s a great idea!

[@prajwalpramod3970]

I would say I have mixed thoughts about this. All of the modern comforts that we enjoy, from good infrastructure to smartphones to airplanes to social media, have been made possible because of people who worked super hard in the previous generations. If the innovation and improvements have to keep going, people have to keep working. But again, perhaps these past generations did not pay enough attention to things like personal well-being and mental health. They also lacked the tools that enable us to be as productive without having to work as much, like AI and the internet.

[@remc0s]

The whole "answering work-related e-mails while being off duty" must be a typical American wage-slave thing. I would never do anything work related in my own time. I live in the Netherlands, and after punching out at 16.30, work doesn't exist until 8.00 the following morning. I'm an employee, not a slave. I work to live, not the other way around.

[@felicitysmoakandwillgraham6453]

yeah. pretty common here in the Philippines too. I can be on leave, be ill or may it be the weekends, we are still expected to be accessible. Good for you that this is not the situation you are in, but for some of us, work doesn't leave us when we leave the office. it consumes our daily life. we may not want it, but we also need that paycheck to survive.

[@Wilkins325]

Yeah America is the worst country on earth!!!! I wonder why people keep coming here…

[@maxpeterson3178]

That first girl is spot on. Thats an unreasonable ask and she was right to run.

[@squeet0]

I'm cool with working, just not in customer service

[@wilhelmbuzzkyll]

ello dis is Microsoft tech support

[@SarahG-vz3ki]

Fr people are so awful

[@beauregardrippey5508]

Agreed. Ill take a dirty sewer over these complete imbeciles. Ignorance is only bliss to the ignorant.

[@captaindanger13]

@@SarahG-vz3ki and some people are just weird. i remember being a cashier at some cheap clothes store and some weird old customer just immediately asked me to marry him and another one came to me asking to be friends. bro i'm just trying to do my job and leave. idk you like that.

[@SarahG-vz3ki]

@@captaindanger13 that is crazy and I feel that it makes you see everything and how weird people are. I’m a cashier too and I’ve seen so many people on drugs and so many other things but yep customer service made me see everything which makes me thankful for when I can leave lol

[@flyingweasel28]

as someone who has 25 more years to work until potential retirement, i can understand the daunting ladder that new workers have in front of them. hopefully one day soon the next couple generations can get the four day work week and or better work/life balance. as you covered brett, each gen gets a little more change and types of work as well as lifestyle changes. here's too the next 100 years of growth.

[@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jl]

Late stage capitalism

[@GearForTheYear]

Seriously? Wages decoupled from productivity in the 1970s. If anything, we're heading towards a dystopian hellscape of servitude for the uber wealthy. If the rich won't let their employees in on the massive profits, then the least they can do is let them work less. Don't resign yourself to waiting 100 years to see if things change for the better for future generations -- by then it might be too late.

[@Anotherguy1st]

Yeah thankfully I get to do that, union tradesman but we work four ten hour days typically, Friday is time and a half if they really want me to work. It's very nice I don't see why more companies don't adopt something similar.

[@ShitYourself7]

if people have four day work weeks you gonna see a lot of the things you enjoy take a lot longer to come to your front door and grocery stores a lot more empty

[@GearForTheYear]

@@ShitYourself7 that’s a huge assumption. Far from a guarantee. Employers love maximizing output so they would probably just hire more people to keep the same level of output.

[@amyawashington2849]

The words and phrases they're using are stupid and objectionable, yes. The core of what they're saying (at least what I think they're saying) is absolutely correct. People have to work these jobs they don't like for the rest of their lives to make ends meet and it's making them miserable. The idea of living like that is awful and being told over and over that they're just lazy and should work harder is working against us big time. Conservatives should try addressing those bigger concerns and then call them whiny babies if they still have a problem.

[@aaronadamson7463]

The problem is that a lot of these people are straight anti work in entirety tho. And after seeing videos about "a day in the life" where someone gets to do yoga, drink free premium coffee, take a table tennis break, and meditate at work, it is hard for me to have sympathy for a lot of these kids. Are there people in genuinely sucky work conditions? Absolutely. Are these people voluntarily choosing to stay in these positions? Absolutely. Combine the fact that a lot of these guys complain about not being able to afford to live when they have the newest iPhone, a netflix subscription, and eat out for every meal, how am I supposed to think its anything but their own poor choices that got them there? By the way, let me point out, none of these people HAVE to work these jobs. They can leave them at any time. They own their own labor. If you work a job you dont like, look for a better one. If you arent happy in your current field of work, transition to a new one. Many people in worse positions have risen to higher stations, the opportunities are out there. It may may time, effort, and research, but if you cant invest these things into your own life, why expect strangers to invest it in someone else's life for you?

[@tarrickmerdev2324]

Very few people get paid to do something they already enjoy doing. That's what they're complaining about at the core. However, that just isn't a reality and, if you're lucky, you can at least get by working doing something that you don't hate or at least can tolerate. It's up to you to choose what you will tolerate for what you will earn. If you aren't being productive in society, then you can't expect anyone else to simply provide you with the fruits of their own labor. That's, ultimately, what currency and capital is, the exchange of labor. I work to provide a specific service to one company that is willing to pay me for that labor, then I give that in exchange for goods or services that I cannot do effectively or at all that other people do well and we all profit.

[@ShitYourself7]

Its not conservatives job. if you dont like somethiing, leave or switch, or stop being lazy and work harder.

[@amyawashington2849]

@@tarrickmerdev2324 I agree and I see why that would sound like a stupid complaint because every generation has dealt with that. This generation is lacking many things older generations didn't have though. Very few people in my generation can work a sucky job and still find happiness outside of it. We lack the skills, drive, and in some cases the ability to make that happen. Also, I forgot to mention it in my original post but think about the rewards of said job. It's so expensive to find somewhere to live nowadays on one income. You'd have to live with your parents for nearly a decade to be able to pay for a nice apartment and a car these days. That only makes their resentment to the normal work week even worse.

[@amyawashington2849]

@@aaronadamson7463 I see your point and I don't entirely disagree. As someone in Gen Z, I think a lot of people want enjoyment in their lives and they don't see work as a part of that. The work is not benefitting us in any way nowadays. We can work all those hours and it'll take us a decade at best to get where older generations could get to in a few years. Who is about to dedicate that much time and energy to something with that being the case? Also, a lot of us don't have the same mechanisms for happiness to get us through that. We don't have strong families, strong communities, even good friends and spouses are more and more of a rarity. Those are old mechanisms of happiness that we've replaced with material things like Netflix, iPhones, and eating out. I say all of this to at least give context. I know that many people in Gen Z are seemingly hopeless but I think too many conservatives are completely ignorant to our generation.

[@zeeman857]

As someone who works 8-5, it's not that some people complain about having to work. I, personally, enjoy what I do, even though the equipment I work with is stupid a lot of the time. The problem is that there's no work/life balance. My dad works 2½ hours from home, and my mom stays home. So if she needs help with anything, I'm usually the one to try to be there for her while my dad is away. But some of these jobs expect you to give your time and devotion to them, and your family has to be put on the back burner. And to me, that's entirely unacceptable. I have a life outside of work, and I value my family and mental stability.

[@Rex_31_07]

I love the irony, she's telling her own generation that they need to work a 9-5 their entire lives to have little bit of money, while she's sitting all comfy in her little chair reading comments and trying to be "funny" and she's the one telling people their lazy, while she does this.

[@miakamei1751]

Shut up. You make it sound so easy, you're obviously manipulating reality to minimise her work. If it's so easy for you, why don't you put in the work and interview for Brett's kind of job? Instead of complaining like you are doing now.

[@abeerkhan1879]

Thats what I'm saying

[@commodorejones8044]

She is still working though, cushy as it is it ain’t free labor. 😂

[@lawsattitude1999]

So? You know she worked her ass off prior to getting this right? And, her points were still valid.

[@davidz3879]

@@lawsattitude1999 What hard work did she do to get this job?

[@partridc00]

Such a bad take from Brett. Happening a lot more often I've noticed. I've been in the workforce for over 10 years now and what millennials and gen-z are seeing is that hard work is simply not rewarded. I have a first class science degree and get paid just over minimum wage. Brett does not see or feel the complete decoupling of wages from productivity. She sits in front of a camera a couple hours a day and performs stream of consciousness reactions to videos. I hope this is one of only a few lapses in empathy from Brett but by the look of her recent videos it is becoming too conservative and biased. Such a shame. Increase wages and decrease hours. Work to live, don't live to work. Fuck man I'm so tired.

[@zonefreakman]

Yeah I'm not sure where Brett is getting her perspective from. I'm a conservative, but I also support worker rights. Her mindset seems more like the rich class conservatism that pinches pennies from their workers. I just joined the electrical workers union and it made me come around to the idea that unions are pretty necessary. I would be making basically double of what you are making and Im just an apprentice, but that's because the union fight for higher wages for their workers. Non union is pretty much halved. You can make good money non union, but it won't be consistent and you have to know who would take advantage of you or not. Otherwise you get companies paying you as low as they can if higher pay isn't a standard. Some conservatives say to fight for your worth and to fight for a better pay. But that only works for a few people. The reality is that most of us need to lower our standards because there isn't anything better, without the help of something like unions.

[@partridc00]

@@zonefreakman My man, I have rarely agreed so strongly to a comment reply. But you pounded that nail on the head. Almost all employee rights we take for granted today are the result of unions and workers strikes. Including holiday pay, 2 day weekend, maternity/paternity leave, minimum wage and many more. People who cry for free market capitalism conveniently ignore the fact that employers would drop these benefits in a heartbeat if they could, because they would make more money. And in the same thread, more can and should be done to bolster workers rights. People may scream that it would take money out of hardworking business owners pockets. They are right. But I believe we should take money out of their pockets. And if the business can't survive, then it was never a good business to begin with. I strongly believe that the best business owners are the ones who created their business to help others. Whether that be through the service they provide, or through creating jobs for the local community. Owners who are in it for their own personal gain (on the backs of worker exploitation) are terrible people; that's my hot take. And I do understand the perspective of business owners. Nobody likes having money taken from them, which is why people tend to become more Conservative as they become more wealthy. But we have 7 billion people on the planet, we need to start sharing more. Inequality is a terrible consequence of unchecked hunger for profit in a capitalist society. How do we do it? We can't. Governments can though. Unfortunately Governments also receive copious brown envelopes from big business, so the motivation to change is close to zero. Strikes, protests, quiet quitting, malicious compliance, and sometimes violence are the tools of the masses. I hope to see more of it across the world. And just maybe some positive changes will occur. Probably not in my lifetime. But we must plant trees under which we will never sit.

[@lawsattitude1999]

"I have a first class science degree and get paid just over minimum wage." How long have you been in the work force? this makes no sense. Also, what did she say that's wrong? She just said that you are allowed to not work extra if you don't want and that it's fine. Also, why are you mad she's conservative? She works for DW. As for your last points, you're paid what you're worth. You can only get less hours and more money if you prove you're worth that.

[@lawsattitude1999]

@@zonefreakman Unions ain't an issue in of themselves. The main problem is when they lobby governments or are mandated.

[@countskippy]

@@lawsattitude1999 it actually makes a ton of sense. There are loads of places currently expecting 3-5 years minimum work experience in entry-level positions across the board for positions that don't have any need to require that. I've got an MBA and have really only just started using it after starting up my own business doing woodworking, and I'm 11 years out of my master's degree. It's absolutely a possibility, and why a bunch of people are feeling like college degrees are useless. Has been this way for quite a while now.