Warning, Don't Do This! Here's How We Damaged Our Cybertruck Towing Across Town!

[@zachlafond2652]

Just go to a local boat landing on a busy weekend and you can find all kinds of trailering comedy.

[@IronmanV5]

Bring lawn chairs and cold drinks. And play Benny Hill music.....

[@ColJonSquall1]

@@IronmanV5 Wouldn't be hard to film either, Andre does like to take trucks to see how they tow his boat after all, lol

[@patrickmaloney1810]

This.

[@roguedogx]

given I ran a yard where professional drivers regularly act like they have never backed up a trailer in their lives, I believe it.

[@Dularr]

Looking for Cybertruck FSD to autonomusly launch a boat at the boat ramp.

[@KalleSWBeck]

This is why my quadrasteer had 4 wheel tow mode which limited the rear steer while towing. GM figured this out 22 years ago

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

And they built their cars with clean non polluting and non poisonous electric motors. And then they stopped being the good guy and replaced their EV1 with smoking poison spilling super heavy trucks. Well done GM!

[@mt2nv1]

This will be a Tesla OTA update in a few months. Watch.

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

@@mt2nv1most cars don’t need patches, they usually release when they’re ready.

[@mt2nv1]

@@TheNinthGeneration1 most cars get worse over time. Teslas get better. Our 2018 just got a Spotify and Audible update along with trip progress indicator and other enhancements

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

@@mt2nv1 yet the newest released model is a lemon. While the software can be improved over the air, the hardware can’t be, and eventually the software will be incompatible with your hardware. Computers also break down much faster than cars do, meaning your car will brick up on you eventually, I just hope the by-wire steering and braking have physical overrides when it happens. I only need a connection to my phone to get Spotify, Audible and GPS in my car. My current one uses Bluetooth and my phone can be updated and replaced without needing to lose access to my car during that time, or affect its value. Every vehicle gets worse over time, no car is an investment. Vehicles break themselves apart every time they turn on, it’s why we have to do maintenance. I don’t want my car to be an expensive computer, we already have enough distractions without needing an iPad for a console.

[@williamknifeman5040]

It’s a rookie mistake, it happens. Don’t let it bring you down Tommy. You live and learn. Props to Roman for not getting angry.

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

as the saying goes....Shit happens.

[@Captain-Awesome]

100%

[@mt2nv1]

The hitch being recessed adds to jackknife potential. less room for error.

[@Battleneter]

Buying a Cybertuck was a rookie mistake for sure, your kind words may help though.

[@tris3s10]

I appreciate these comments, regardless if its a CT or ICE truck this happens to everyone. its just the nature of physics.

[@anthonymrskipt9252]

Geez, I love all the trolling over a trailering issue that I’m sure many of us have experienced at one point or another. Especially when you’re pulling a trailer that’s new to you and probably trying to make a turn in a tight spot. I suspect these guys are way better drivers than most of the commenters and at least have the backbone to put their mistakes out there to help others from doing the same. For what it’s worth, I appreciate your doing that as a channel. On another note, congratulations on your nuptials, Tommy! Best thing I ever did was marrying my wife and raising two amazing sons with her. I hope the same for you and that you have many, many years of happiness together.

[@MikeWolff1]

That happens with normal trucks all the time as well. Normally you don't make a 90 degree turn with a trailer. Still glad you made a video about it. More impressed with Tommy's ease of the functionality of the truck.

[@boostav]

7:30 Camera pans at mirror that shows the edges of the trailer just fine.

[@haroldhand6124]

Great video. Most of us looking at a Cyber Truck will be doing light duty towing. This shows that for most people this truck meets the needs. If your going to tow a travel trailer or your a hotshot transport then you may want to use the right tool for the job. We enjoy you showcasing all these different truck and trailer combinations from small ranger style to larger diesel trucks and even then new EV options. Keep it up.

[@henrysboy2]

TFL Boys + Heavy Equipment = Comedy Gold. 😂 Great video guys. Thx.

[@adamsmiths3016]

They should review heavy equipment just as a comedy channel

[@65SoYolo]

That toy is not even close to heavy equipment.

[@hhohajz]

Tommy that's the 2nd Tesla you damage. Let's see how long the repair process is this time.

[@ShippyJack]

It's already repaired... Roman fixed it on camera!

[@michaelcalmeyerhentschel8304]

Glad to see that both of you use every opportunity to leave fingerprints on the Frunk and doors areas. Clearly not squeamish about using a Cybertruck as a truck.

[@davidhancock91]

When Nissan raced the GTR in Touring Cars in Australia in the early 90s , they came with all wheel drive and 4wheel steer. After much testing the Nissan team disabled the rear steer, and improved the handling (and lap times) substantially. 4 wheel steer is good for U turns and parking.

[@ctbryant09]

This is normal, most of us do it without rear wheel steering. Not a big deal. Only ppl who RARELY tow haven't made this mistake.

[@horuslupercal3872]

I did this in my Dads Silverado when I was 16 I wasn’t allowed to drive again for almost 6 months 😂

[@theproffessional9]

​@@horuslupercal3872a fair punishment 😂

[@tazeat]

I can't say I've ever done that and I've got a lot of towing miles... not that I haven't done other dumb things xD. I was surprised they didn't give a way to turn rear steer off or default it off when towing for this reason though...

[@christopherhughes7970]

My buddy blew out his rear window towing a gooseneck horse trailer and making too tight of a turn.

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

@@tazeat The beauty of Tesla OTA is they can just UPDATE and you get it , no need to go to Stealership.

[@markmonroe7330]

Please document the process for getting the truck repaired - from start to finish with the costs included. We could really benefit from knowing the full timeline, process with Tesla and costs. Excellent presentation. Thank you. We need these kind of videos.

[@TFLEV]

We did, Roman banged at it with a rubber mallet. 😉

[@brians.1357]

Total KZbin revenue $$$ from this video minus repair cost = $$$ money ahead 🤑. I don’t recommend this strategy unless you are a very large KZbin channel 😂

[@jamesp5301]

@@TFLEV 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@zilfondel]

Rubber mallet method good enough. No truck owner would have the bumper replaced for a ding

[@doomsday9973]

pointless to fix that. Roman pretty much did it with the mallet

[@westwestforlife]

We have markers on our semi trailers that show you when to stop so you don’t jack knife. Comes in pretty handy in really tight areas.

[@99unclebob]

Well Roman/Tommi there is a perfect reason for an over the air update from Tesla for customers to have the ability to turn off the rear steer while towing , I think this video will be very info for Tesla truck owners and i am sure it has happened at boat ramps across America already 😂

[@diesel6916]

backing up not going forward

[@vxnova1]

@@diesel6916should have the option going forward too,

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

Tommy*

[@WW-wf8tu]

Tommy nails another Tesla product! Yes! GJ! I like it! No sarcasm. In the next video, Tommy drives a scissor lift through the barn door. 🤣 All joking aside Tommy, GL with the wedding party and congrats!

[@ClaudeOBX]

If Tesla included something like the Ford Pro-Trailer yaw sensor sticker, the truck could in theory detect this situation about to occur and limit steering or apply the brakes. Ford does this both with a wired Yaw sensor, or a sticker on the trailer that the backup camera reads.

[@kadimsilahtar]

First the Hummer EV, then the Defender, then the Taco and then the Cybertruck. This show is great and extremely useful for consumers. Thanks a lot guys, and sorry for the troubles.

[@greywolfgarage5630]

Roman, you add a ton of value to the videos TFL films. This was a great video.

[@IKnewMickey]

Many ppl are ok buying scratch and dent fridges so there's really no problem.

[@h8GW]

Oh, I found the hidden joke!

[@andrewvercillo7584]

You guys are learning. I don’t think think you want to turn off rear wheel steering but I do think a towing mode steering ratio would be good. The truck tows better than ANY OTHER truck.

[@windowman9665]

Andre… the truck, chains and math guy

[@hereigoagain5050]

You gotta baptize new vehicles with a ding or two, so you can have stress free motoring, especially if you off-road.

[@willbenner3]

Video idea: trailer backing challenge, ford vs gm vs ram vs Tesla

[@nihongobenkyoshimasu3190]

10:40 I would have been interesting to show what the rear camera was displaying. Maybe this could had prevented this damage of the rear bumper.

[@lukemages8350]

This isn’t a Cybertruck issue, my full size gmc will do the same thing. It’s a driver issue, look at how far he had to double over before it hit.

[@DaBrute]

I find it hard to believe you could run into your own trailer going forward... unless we're talking a 40+ foot trailer here

[@lukemages8350]

⁠@@DaBrute nope just a dump trailer. Even the boat will get close.

[@JeffreyRust-oq7rw]

Yes he's an idiot

[@aaronhendrickson]

If you contact out of spec, you can try a tri motor cyber truck. They are based south of you in fort Collins, Colorado. They do a mountain towing test. I think both of you can share testing info that will benefit both channels. Bumpers are meant to be bumped. I bet you can fist dent a bumper. Maybe, a new test should be started. Step on the bumper and bounce on it. If that causes damage, then the bumper fails to do its job.

[@volvo09]

I wouldn't even bother fixing that... But it might make for a good series to document the process.

[@tylergood1223]

I wouldn't fix it either. To small to worry about

[@mzinns]

I love how you guys have been reviewing trucks, suv’s and cars for years……yet you still have the knowledge and skills of complete newbies.

[@ruly999]

Looks like the plastic didn't crack, just dented, perhaps a heat gun will smooth it back out (careful not to burn the plastic).

[@kevinblock2307]

Seems like something I would do by mistake as well

[@Jay-pf6ln]

Funniest thing is the solution to the problem...Get on X and ask Tesla to add a feature that will limit turn radius at full lock depending on Jack knife minimum clearances. Yup, they can do that 👌

[@huskychronicles3249]

> proceeds to turn as hard as possible and rams the truck into the trailer "The truck ran itself into the trailer"

[@tazeat]

well to be fair there are VERY few trucks that you can run in to a bumper pull trailer without reversing (assuming a normal trailer with a reasonable standard tongue design).

[@garysarratt1]

Goodness gracious, then they learned about this unique CT tendency and showed the world. A pitiful accident, but they handled it fine.

[@nlken7175]

That's a big jack knife to hit that trailer. It's called human error.

[@theglitch99]

100%

[@stephenj4937]

Normally jack knifing happens in reverse, not drive.

[@scottyellis3442]

I've been watching TFL from close to day one & I've gotta tell y'all this is by far the best truck & car review channel on KZbin. Keep up the good work.👍🏻👍🏻

[@Captain-Awesome]

Tommy, if it makes you feel better I bought a 100K 5th wheel RV and turned to tight causing it to collide with the cab of the truck. Fortunately, I was selling the truck and that particular truck already had dents in it, however, my brand new RV is got a small scuff. I’ve learned that it happens a lot. Now I have my new truck which cost more than the RV, I watch that turning radius like a HAWK!! I am sure you will be too :).

[@milson4573]

“You know, we had a ladder” 🤣😂

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

I would like to see a video on how the 4 wheel steering affects backing up. I would think it makes it easier to get the trailer out of an extreme angle without pulling forward.

[@rickbullock4331]

Just wondering, would lubricating the trailer hitch ball not make it smoother for turning or does the trailer hitch have Teflon inserts inside the hitch? The Metal on metal isn’t recommended. Big rigs grease the 5th wheel. Possibly eliminate binding.🤔🙄

[@clintmiller88]

I’m glad yall are using this truck Everyone else is done with the truck thankfully you aren’t

[@arnegerhardsen3755]

Hello Tommy and Roman. Yes this is things which can happen and I like that Roman told that this is things that can happen. I agree with you Tommy, my experience also is that trucks on a frame is better on towing because we are not direct connected to the trailer and have less vibrations.

[@injohneer]

Still didn't get that chained down right. Look at the chain @5:23, a break on the front driver's section would leave the chain loose on the front passenger corner.

[@AtlantaGuns]

Father son team is always enjoyable to watch 👍

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

I am a diesel truck guy(I have 3). I think this will make more sense when and if Toyota comes out with solid state batteries. Several hundred mile ranges towing is doable...

[@tonysimi5763]

thx for sharing your towing incident with us that will save me from doing it. I think you will be pleased at how inexpensive a new bumper is. I think its about $650 at Tesla. My model 3 was hit from behind body shop price was $2000 tesla repair was $800. Tesla is very reasonably priced for parts.

[@BigBilly7]

The receiver hitch being tucked under the truck means that the weigh safe hitch you are using is probably too short. You need a ball mount that extends further out. My B proof ball mount has two holes that allow it to extend further out. Maybe yall should try a different ball mount and see if that would have saved the bumper?

[@roguedogx]

2:18 it should. the areo drag should be the main factor affecting range. given the serve reduction in area, I would expect Range to only be cut in about half as opposed to 1/3rd under similar conditions.

[@roguedogx]

7:32 we know who.

[@roguedogx]

9:18 that seems like something that can't ever really be a customers fault. if it's that easy to do by accident, that's a design flaw. edit - also, how did that not come up in testing? either they didn't know about it (because they didn't test it) or it happened and they did nothing to address it.

[@roguedogx]

13:30 I am curious to know how that will effect sales. I know how I would counter act it, but I'm guess tesla didn't do that, so we'll see moving forward.

[@roguedogx]

15:41 okay so I was close.

[@ChicagoBob123]

The interesting thing is its pretty effcient with no load. What's the F150 or Silverado EV? What if you were to fill the bed with heavy tools for carpentry? Do you lose range? Do they make a drawer for the bed?

[@ShippyJack]

Other channels have done max payload tests on rivian and F150 lightning. Range impact is minimal so long as whatever is in the bed is below the roofline of the truck.

[@jguil4d]

Have you guys tested to see how towing affects regenerative braking in electric vehicles? Is there an advantage to tuning the gain on your brake controller up or down to improve regeneration?

[@tarfeef101]

Lol they kept Roman's retakes in

[@bioniccrouton]

Congratulations Tommy! Not on the accident, but your upcoming wedding. To paraphrase that modern day philosopher "You liked it so you're gonna put a ring on it."

[@ChicagoBob123]

You jack knifed the thing.

[@markspence3750]

I totally feel you guys. I "jack-knifed" my 2006 VW Touareg backing into a boat ramp at 2am in pitch black dark with no help. SUVs with a short wheelbase have this same problem.

[@romeolongoria8730]

How MANY Teslas has Tommy put in the shop now?

[@oceanadventures1]

I was at that same parking lot and I saw them jack knife while backing up. Not sure why they said they were going forward, show us the footage...

[@grogman1911]

Can it be switch to two wheel steer mode like a telehandler?

[@miodice3]

Never done trailering but I’d never have thought of this situation happening going forward

[@youngblood23rb]

So the parking sensors didnt detect the trailer?

[@tensixliving]

Roman, did you know this video and another video I have seen recently it appears your 2nd takes are making it into the video. I just didn't know if that was intentional or if you or anyone At TFL realized this.

[@elbowsout6301]

Thanks for doing this. Did you intend to leave the retakes in the video or maybe using a new editor? When you return the scissor lift maybe use the cummins and take the same route to calculate the efficiency of that around town?

[@silverfox__12]

I thought Tommy had a 2 door Jeep LOL... Doesn't get tighter than that. I made sure the tongue of my custom utility trailer was long enough that I can go a full 90 degrees before I get jackknifed.

[@jackcobbiii1797]

I rented the stand on Bobcat and it kicked but;) very tough piece of equipment

[@MrGMawson2438]

10:42 you are to blame for that lol

[@joshc606]

I’m glad ya made this video. I do not like the truck on video but for some reason when I see one in person I can stop looking at it.

[@P3Rformance23]

Should be able to hit a button and turn off 4Wheel steering anytime not just certain modes. I've driven a CT several times and it's not always needed. Super nice but should be optional at certain scenarios

[@heartland96a]

Have you done a video on that sweet Jeep ? I didn’t see in on you video list ?

[@iamgriff]

8:32 in true Colorado fashion you’re going almost 5 under the speed limit. I sure do not miss living there. Worst drivers I have had the displeasure of being around

[@drnick40]

First world problem. Too tight turning circle of the truck. Usually people like that and that’s why you have all these cameras Tommy! However, this happens to all of us. Trust me on that.

[@dchubworldsharenetwork]

Since the wheels are not directly connected to the steering wheel, it is strange that there is no button to turn off the rear wheel steering at any time.

[@georgeh6856]

Right before the damage, they both talked about clipping corners due to the short turning radius. So they knew not to do that. I don't understand.

[@JausTine]

I think it's a humiliation fetish. I can't think of anything else that makes sense.

[@mediocreman2]

Mistakes mean views, and views mean cash in hand.

[@alexorcas1]

Didn’t the company that makes all the axles and rear steer for GM do some sort of demo of the benefits of rear steer with a trailer on the highway which drastically improves trailer sway during quick lane changes?

[@jonzaremba]

Do another video getting quotes from body shops.

[@douggolde7582]

Try a hot air gun on a medium setting. Mostly stress whitening.

[@neverknow69]

I'm surprised Sunbelt hasn't bought them out yet. All the rental places around Indiana are now Sunbelt.

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

Warning: Poor driving can damage your truck.

[@IKnewMickey]

I have to agree. Poor judgement and lack of situational awareness behind the "wheel" can result in life changing or even catastrophic event. This time he damaged a bumper next time he could hurt someone or worse. I realize my comment is reactionary but I've seen ppl who cause small incidents like this become involved in huge issues all because of their lack of ability to safely and quickly calculate a route to success, as was demonstrated here.

[@wesshepard]

It seems like Andre would’ve been handy in the situation

[@racinj7134]

Saw this coming once they announced the steer by wire and rear steer. Inevitable that that this is going to happen to MANY people. Someone is going to have to build a triangular frame that hits something solid first to let the owner know when they're at their maximum. Or Tesla needs to put sensors that sound off when you get close! Otherwise, a lot of expensive repairs will be needed and mostly no real fault of the owner./ driver.

[@mfurmyr]

How many cement sacks can it take and how about transporting 4X4 planks?

[@jeff119990]

congrats tommy on the wedding.

[@jahd04]

This happens, but could be avoided with an extender to give more room

[@moosc]

that's a jack knife lol

[@lsubone9]

And Roman blaming the truck because it has too good of a turning circle smh

[@boostav]

@@lsubone9 They weren't blaming the truck

[@WalterA-b3d]

Roman has the right attitude. It's a truck, does truck things. Trucks are here to work, damage happens. Really liked the mallet repair.

[@S_Galvez]

You’re a great father 🙌🏾

[@jacksonbangs6603]

Apparently they forgot to take a sledgehammer to the rear bumper at the Cybertruck unveil event. It is not totally dent proof whatsoever. Nice video as always and keep up the awesome work.

[@dustintodd1006]

Contacting your trailer because your jackknifing too hard in reverse can happen to any truck, however going forward no turning radius on a modern HD truck will do that. Not really surprised the engineers overlooked this.

[@Vanguitarman]

I’m really wondering not only how much of the bumper will need to be removed in order to fix it. Probably an expensive repair for minor damage.

[@tmfaber]

Nice look behind the scenes at 16:25

[@amalfi460]

Not the cyber truck fault it was a jackknife should have been watching your mirrors

[@flacht_6]

Man everyone is tough saying they’ll cancel their orders and they’re fed up with it and then turn around and make all the content possible with it.

[@J26-e6g]

Rear steering just gets you to jackknife a bit quicker. I always turn on my cameras when backing and going forward when making a sharp turn. Really easy to do, even with a normal steering truck. Your lucky you didn’t have a squishy trailer, our you would be paying two deductibles. I’m happy that you didn’t blame Tesla for it.

[@ChuloGordo82]

Lol. Didn't he also damage the t3 backing into garage?

[@davidjernigan8161]

Scissor lifts have to be heavy just like a fork lift, otherwise it will tip.

[@joemattes8389]

This happens, but does seem like there should be a way to turn off rear steer.

[@jackpalczynski7884]

Nice rust showing on the wheel hubs through the wheels. Taking your numbers cost wise, it's just about 10 mpg if gas costs $4 a gallon. Wonderful. From my own experience when I had a Yukon XL with both a boat and with a racecar enclosed trailer, I always got 15 mpg, so a cybertruck costs 50% more than a big gas V8 to drive.

[@PM-wc1lp]

They used around 80 KWH of battery. If they used the SuperChargers its .35 cents a KW, it would have been $28. Charge at home for much cheaper, especially off peak.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Wedding Party! Congrats Tommy! Hanging disco balls is what CyberTrucks are all about. Actually, I think it has disco mode.

[@carperdiem8754]

Guess you are gonna have to get the unplugged performance bumper now 😂

[@GregMcNamer]

A couple of 2nd takes in this video... Would love to see those cleaned up and the whole thing tightened up by 5 or 10 minutes. Otherwise, fun adventure and good PSA.

[@faceman929]

I'm sorry that happened to you guys...but that's a normal situation not just exclusive to Cybertruck but ill keep it in mind when I get mine.

[@babyUFO.]

7:40 BALONEY. The F150 has a tighter turning radius. It's definitely the driver.

[@marksr1907]

Air is aways your enemy towing. Doesn't matter what with. Air = Drag. Weight = More Torque needed to get going but after that it's all about the drag.

[@nunyabiness181]

1:54 Whoa dude the shape of your ear is badass