You'll quit Jiu-Jitsu because of this, by Professor Ryron Gracie. DON'T MAKE THIS MISTAKE!

Some people quit Jiu-Jitsu because they think they reached a good level of Jiu-Jitsu, some because of financial issues, or because they live too far, or maybe because their wives don't support them.
Professor Ryron Gracie believes that all those reasons are valid and that even though there might be people who quit because of them, he believes that the real reason why most people quit Jiu-Jitsu is something different.
Check out the video so you don't make the same mistake.
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[@juyama7489]

Feels so different when Rener isn’t there to cut him off mid sentence

[@overkill_716]

Lmao

[@rishabhdowarah663]

i googled that question, ended up here and found this comment bwahaha...true that tho

[@danielche2349]

LOLOLOL

[@robertovelarde_staff-marti9696]

SO TRUE

[@stefanocioni2587]

Lol😂

[@InfinitelyManic]

"Comparison is the thief of joy." - unknown - good one.

[@skyshrk04]

The Bible, 'don't covet'... Not preaching, just saying...

[@InfinitelyManic]

@@skyshrk04 Yes - that works also. But there may be another issue; that of self worth; which may or may not be about self glory.

[@perfectsplit5515]

This was actually a sermon from my priest a year ago - The Comparison Trap. There is always someone who has it better - someone with a prettier wife, someone with a faster car, someone who is better-looking, someone who is closer to his prime, someone with a bigger house, someone with more money, etc. etc. etc. I think it is summed up in the line, "He who dies with the most toys - wins."

[@Battechofficial]

perfectsplit oh thank goodness I wasn’t the only one thinking there was a bible sermon in there somewhere

[@JitteryEwok]

I think it was Roosevelt who said that

[@owpidcock]

The most confusing thing about this video is why they hung the picture on a pillar when they have a nice flat wall.

[@mxu111]

They wanted the pic to be more centered?

[@thataintnomoonsucka]

I'm going to be thinking about that all day.

[@nj12344]

That actually looks like the center of the mat from what I can see, and typically you have to bow to that very pic of master Carlos before and after class, so maybe it's just there for emphasis? 🤷‍♀️

[@tricyclemishap]

Yeah I was thinking maybe it'll be fine to have the two pictures separated by the pillar. No need to have both pictures side by side so close together.

[@kevinwilson1218]

You my friend are a master of observation. You just made my morning...

[@m.c.lippsss]

Money, boredom, injury, goals reached, toxic environment, moving away, family life, etc. There are many reasons why people "quit".

[@guiltyspark659]

To add to your point; lack of a competitive rival, as well as too few students were the reason I quit martial arts.

[@LibraryAstro]

Money is the biggest issue for a lot of people. The timetables are fairly flexible though.

[@iggs67]

Road construction, house renovations :))

[@richarddavis1599]

Commitments

[@joshuahaught4812]

Not fitting in with the gym/s. I've gone to several and everyone was nice/proper but there was a lack of connection between myself and the others, or many of them had their own circles and weren't very inclusive. They were never mean or anything, but they were content with their own groups and didnt bother expanding them (which is their right and again I'm not trying to be negative towards them, they were great people). All that to say, having a connection with people is huge.

[@robfla6471]

Their is usually one person in every class that thinks they are in the UFC when they are rolling.

[@TalkingIsh100]

The wannabe badazzaz with something to prove. I'm planning on joining a gym after this virus stuff passes. I've already been researching and heard about those types. The one's that try to pull ppl's arm out of the socket or break an arm when attempting a submission just to look extra tough.

[@shepherdoffire9263]

Zekaryah Child of TMH GOD its not an “average badass” but you are right with something to prove. Some people join a gym cause they dont know the feeling of winning, let alone a fight, so yeah, no need to bash somebody for being competitive

[@TalkingIsh100]

@@shepherdoffire9263 ...Well healthy competition is good but all competition isn't healthy. The purpose of training is to learn. Not to purposely try to hurt ppl just to look like a badazz.

[@Joe11Blue]

@@shepherdoffire9263 I personally keep the roll a notch below the opponent, unless they ramp it up.

[@bryanjordan8876]

@@TalkingIsh100 Its common for white belts to go 100% against each other and higher belts. They are new and don't understand how to fully control themselves. As a white belt myself, I can even tell my opponent I want to take it easy, but as soon as I start feeling them ramp up the pace, I slowly ramp up my pace. He'll feel that, and ramp up a little more. Next thing you know, we are going 100% and risking injury and it happens so quickly that it's hard to stop. Sometimes you get a jack ass trying to prove himself, a lot of the time its an ego thing, No one likes to lose. More often than not its both of those along with not understanding your own body and how to control yourself.

[@lostinalbion4223]

Wise words. Comparing myself to others is exactly what broke my desire to train.

[@iggyperalta7727]

You’re right.

[@blondequijote]

On the other hand, comparing myself to others got me to give up on music and learn some stuff about fighting instead. Now I'm not worried about messing up my hands and not being able to play guitar.

[@chrisrichards9814]

Social media doesn't help sometimes. You see all these awesome people and expect yourself to be able to be as good when maybe they train 4 hrs a day 7 days a week, are half your age and dont have other responsibilities.

[@wardog0327]

@carey sills Have you learned leg locks?

[@JP-by6pe]

Wardog 03 Definitely, would be surprised how many people can’t defend those, I went that route when I started getting smashed by bigger opponents. Game changer. lol

[@wardog0327]

@@JP-by6pe Yup! It definitely improved my game.

[@nathanielhunt5227]

As Ryron said brother, "Comparison is the theif to joy"

[@rickyrick9328]

CR you love making excuses, don'tcha..

[@michaelspoto8720]

I just started bjj right before the lockdown. I only have about a dozen classes under my belt and theres only 3 things I focus on with bjj. 1-show up 2-try your hardest 3- be respectful. I trust things will fall into place in due time if I keep doing that. Cant wait for my bjj school to open up again.

[@michaelspoto8720]

@D. Jiu-Jitsu yea dude i know what u mean. i was rolling with a blue belt one day and he was just toying with me but still letting me work. it's very humbling lol but after class i always feel so good even after getting my ass kicked. and that's cool you go to 10th planet. ive heard nothing but good things about them. good luck on your belt test homie.

[@blakesimons9378]

Michael Spoto its nice when you get a partner that understands you’re new and let’s you work on things while rolling. I’ve got less than 10 classes in so I get my butt kicked most times I roll. For example I got tapped out by the same guy probably 5 times in a row this past Sunday. After the last time he said, “okay, I’m not gonna submit you anymore. Just do you.” It’s refreshing and EXTREMELY helpful when you get a good partner who understands that you don’t even know half the techniques you need to know. Like when I pass guard. I’ll freeze because I haven’t been taught what to do next. I have the same mindset though, just have fun and eventually, I’ll get better

[@michaelspoto8720]

@@blakesimons9378 yup my school has opened up and ive been rolling for the past 2 months. i love rolling with the higher belts because they will coach me while they're smashing me lol

[@MAAUS]

D. Jiu-Jitsu how is 10th planet for you?

[@tidefanyankee2428]

@@michaelspoto8720 Yep, that's the way to do it. Frankly, I didn't like rolling with other white belts, there wasn't as much to learn than when you roll with say a blue belt. Especially if the blue belt is a good person who wants to pass on some knowledge during or after. And you can really see the difference when you roll with a purple belt (and you're a white belt). Many people can't take being crushed though, but I've found, that's where I learn the most. And yes, it can come down to if the blue/purple belt is a good person, because not everyone is.

[@tclass99]

I think it’s all down to the instructors. If they promote a healthy, fun, safe BJJ environment I’d wager that their students stick around far longer than the ones that don’t.

[@rebeccagore6562]

I agree. The instructors and the interaction with people on the mat make a profound difference. I know people who quit because they did not feel welcomed; they were ignored.

[@traviswright6413]

That’s true but The guys in the video are instructors so they softened it and deflected back onto the students. That’s sad given the fact that Helio Gracie himself was quoted as saying “There are no bad students, only bad teachers”

[@bpc0206]

I trained for 2 years and got my blue belt and then my goals in life changed, I started working 70-80 hrs a week to buy a house for my family. Now I’m in a more stable place and now my four year old, my wife, and myself are training. That line “comparison is the thief of joy” I believe I heard Bill Johnson from Bethel Church in Redding, CA say that.

[@timothyotoole8224]

nice way to let your students what can happen if you start comparing. nice job 👍

[@Killatunga]

F. Scott Fitzgerald - "Comparison is the thief of joy"

[@nj12344]

Beautiful said for an ugly truth

[@Killatunga]

@@nj12344 yep, ugly truth we've all faced and will face for eons to come

[@blueschewsmith]

This is interesting. When I've been faced with someone whose trained for less time and is better than me, I always think "Did you expect to be the MOST gifted Jiu Jitsu practictioner when you started? No." Yet I can't help but go to that place mentally when other climbers fall in the same category. I needed to hear this.

[@duncansutherland47]

This mind set is so incredibly helpful and unfortunately it is discouraged in most schools. I find more opportunities to learn and enjoy rolling when I implement his perspectives of JiuJitsu.

[@johnlloyddy7016]

It's kinda like learning how to play basketball I guess and expecting to be able to play like an NBA player. We play to have fun and get a work out and sure it can get competitive, it's fun to pretend like you are playing in an NBA Finals game, but you don't really expect to win any NBA rings anytime soon in real life. It's when you take yourself too seriously that ego starts to get in the way and makes you wanna quit when things don't turn out your way. We just need to leave our ego at the door. When you get to be over 40, you're just happy to be able to play in a pick up basketball game. Same goes with jiujitsu.

[@justinnorman4541]

The anecdotal answer that I have is the environment I trained in. We had maybe 5 students, all of which weighed more than I did. So when we would grapple, they never beat me with technique, they beat me with their strength. I wasn't advanced enough to beat them with my technique, so I would just take a beating while trying to learn. I would get picked up and slammed, slung around, and sometimes even getting struck when we wouldn't allow striking in most sessions. I got more hurt grappling than I ever had sparring. So my growth was stunted because my mentality was just to survive the round by bracing for impact and trying not to get injured. I love Jiu Jitsu, but my environment caused it to have a sour taste in my mouth.

[@egyptianspaceodin1373]

I quit because I was paying $150 a month and got eye gouged by a blue belt and had to spend $600+ to fix my eye. In Judo, I only pay $45.

[@MrJimtimslim]

Just part of the sport. Man up

[@conalltempany5800]

Egyptian Space Odin so your gonna let that one idiot rule your life and take something away from you

[@surfside16]

@@MrJimtimslim That's why people stop training. Most leave within three months. 90% leave after getting their blue belt. Frankly, I don't like rolling around on the ground with sweaty guys. I'll take boxing any day.

[@a.m.m.4592]

Agreed. I studied Judo and it was alway more affordable. Everytime I thought about joining a BJJ school I was always turned off by high cost. I trained at a very reputable Judo school for $65/month. I just couldn't do the BJJ cost.

[@Scorch1028]

Yeah, $150 per month, eye gouging, and $600+ in medical expenses. That’s absurd! Go Judo! 😆

[@donelistening5132]

Gym bullying. Getting older and body can't bang any more. Jiu jitsu Has just become a festival of popularness because of the tournament scene . i hate tournaments. Not everyone is a competitor.

[@andresmiguel2573]

What do you mean by old? 35, 40 or 50? Because my coach is 52 and can kick everyone’s ass in the gym, but he is a fitness freak. He eats well, doesn’t drink and trains something Everyday like running, pads or sparring. The secret just keep training otherwise the young blood will catch up with you 👍🏻

[@oldsnwbrdr]

Nothing wrong with tournaments, but I don’t like training tournament techniques that will get you killed on the street. This, and at age 55 I need to protect myself. I don’t see any Gracies rolling in their 50’s.

[@perfectsplit5515]

Nothing wrong with tournaments, but I don't like all the sandbagging cheaters who manipulate the system and ruin the integrity of the belt ranks.

[@surfside16]

@@andresmiguel2573 But he has be doing BJJ most of his life. Can't compare with older guys who don't have that experience or conditioning.

[@joetheblacksmith8071]

@@oldsnwbrdr Get a gun. Jiujitsu is not the best for self defense

[@elenchus]

side control is the cause of 95% of people quitting jiujitsu lol

[@RyanJamesOfficial]

LOL

[@arielsuarez5471]

Really?! Of all damn things.

[@elenchus]

@@arielsuarez5471 lol i was just joking

[@adampinniger8767]

good lesson on ability to teach vs rank, id much rather a good purple belt teacher vs a black belt that can't

[@stangdude2879]

100% agreed! The instructor is what makes the learning experience. I’ve had some amazing ones in the early years (Relson Gracie school), but I moved and had a hard time finding quality instructors. Ended up quitting because of it and too damn expensive.

[@Robertrhen]

This is so true, I still do this and let it get to me. Thank you for this video. Thank you.

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

EGO is the problem. So lack of proper guidance of how to deal with your own unique difficulties is what make people quit. They are not quitting BJJ, they are quitting having to deal with something they don't know how to deal with. Their shattered EGO. Their emotions, Their lack of maturity, lack of patience. Every person will have a different psychological monster to deal with. BJJ can be the place were you learn to deal with that monster. But if you don't have instructors looking out for you and trying to understand you for who you are, and what you are trying to do, you might feel lost and hopeless. After a few weeks of that feeling your brain will switch off and excuses will start to creep in without you even noticing. Face your demons, Face your emotions, Face your doubts, Face your limitations with a positive attitude. Whatever happen from there doesn't matter much, and you are now in the right path to fully development as a person. Controlling others shows strength, Controlling yourself shows POWER. Rickson Gracie pedindo pra ser enrolado no tapete de casa para superar sua "claustrofobia" é só mais um exemplo da necessidade de vencer seus próprios demônios.

[@msfcabrita]

Concordo, mas também acho que muitos dos problemas no BJJ vêm de cima , quando o mestre ou os mais graduados não dão o exemplo. E depois é a cultura do corpo e do exibicionismo...

[@frontdeskstaff9359]

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but for me, ego, emotions, maturity, and patience are not the problem. My problem is with poor instructors. You mentioned Rickson. I've trained briefly at Dave Kama's school, who happens to be one of Ricksons top students, so I have had a taste of quality instruction. I literally have learned more in two weeks at Dave's school, teaching the way Rickson teaches, than months of training at any of the other schools I've been to.

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

@@frontdeskstaff9359 Once you've experienced a decent instructor is hard to go back to the Cowboy ones.

[@jamesbunda806]

what a great piece of insight, thank you

[@arnaldomonge6486]

As an older person starting it was difficult to roll with younger people trying to prove how good they were. I was trying to survive instead of learning the moves at my own pace. Plus seems I was getting hurt every other lesson roiling too hard. That was my take.

[@kuriosites]

I was always more wary of young white and blue belts.

[@andykeller2525]

@@kuriosites Yes, great points, as an older person I've been injured many times by going to hard or too soon to try to keep up with younger and fit people. Also be wary of people willing to hurt you and not get good coaching. For example, I've just learned, after 6mos that you shouldn't attack until you pass guard and all the pressure I tried to put on people in guard just caused me rib problems. :-) or just getting my lame guard passed and getting smashed didn't help either.

[@brainsabroad3021]

Egos of guys coming in day one thinking the instructor will give them a blue belt if they just smash everyone. White belts with little technique and no desire to learn it bit just want to smash people and causing injuries because of it, terrible instructors or no curriculum. Start learning a loop choke on the first day and end up seriously hurt because some guy doesn't understand what a tap is. These are some of the reasons I have seen. Wanna be UFC fighters are the worst.

[@alexveniegas7971]

Injuries must be a big factor as well. I’m a mailman and I’ve contemplated quitting many times because I can’t get injured again. I love it, I love training. The injury factor is so stressful for me.

[@1mexfighter]

Same here bro

[@LibraryAstro]

That stuff can demoralise someone greatly. Your sparing partners should spar in more of a playful way to avoid injuring people.

[@alexveniegas7971]

Character Rank my sparring partners are awesome. It’s 99% playful. It’s jiu jitsu, everyone has some kind of injuries.

[@NSingh1979]

It is for me as well, I can check my ego but being 40 father of 2 young kids, can't afford to sit out due to injuries. The other thing that bothers me is how some think that they have to win or die every round.

[@joshuahaught4812]

Are you in relatively good shape? Aside from breaking my toes I rarely ever got injured rolling because the instructor was huge on not going balls to the wall (leave that for the competition classes he would say). I'm not trying to troll, I'm just really curious, because if 99% of the people you're rolling with are being playful there might be an underlying cause; hence the question of being in shape.

[@cambrianxrplosion3417]

I called it! Fun! First thing you gotta learn is to let it be fun! Then the nerves start becoming excitement. Then the movements start becoming more liquid. You start tapping more because you’re trying more and failing (vs being afraid of failure). Fun was a HUGE turning point for me and it happened after a month-in.

[@Steelcowboy01]

I disagreed initially. The injuries and getting stuck at blue belt for an indefinite future were the reasons I would’ve chosen initially. But after thinking about this, I think he’s right. It just stops being fun. There are a lot of reasons that could happen but that’s the overarching point.

[@JediNiyte]

49-year-old practitioner here. Got my purple belt this March. I had a realization a while back that REALLY took the mental pressure off and made my training even more enjoyable than it already is. One of the problems you run into as you advance is that fewer of your training partners can really push you, and the pool of people you get meaningful training time with gets smaller, particularly if you're in a smaller town or smaller gym. But that's the REALLY cool thing about new students that rocket past you. Your selection of effective training partners stays fresh. And if those young bucks that progress faster have certain mental or physical gifts, so much the better. You have more and varied ways to push yourself than you would have otherwise. It's like strength training - you can't build muscle playing around with the same old weight - you need progressive overload. So when you have a kid that's been training half the time you are start tuning you up, that is NOT the time to start doubting or feeling sorry for yourself. That partner just became your most valuable training asset, because they're bringing something new to the table that's only going to strengthen your entire gym. Shift your focus away from what makes you feel good, and learn to enjoy what pushes you to the edge. That's where it's at. PS: I am not - repeat, AM NOT - talking about training crazy and trying to match the athleticism of younger folks. Your first priorities should be injury prevention and harm reduction, followed by precision, efficiency, and control. Find your limits, but be smart about it. 😉

[@olivarrio]

100% agree. I'm 46, just started about 6 months ago. The 17 year olds with grey belts, 24 year olds with 3 stripe white belts, blue belts that don't do anything less than 100%, the blue belts that give me space and show me how, the purple belts that put intense pressure and then back off, the brown belts that (like the crazy blue belts) don't have a slow gear, the black belts that are never in any danger and are happy to have a break from their peers... ALL fun, all teaching me. I can see how it's overwhelming. I've almost quit once. It's very personal. "Training once a week is a waste of time" is something I've seen videos about and I couldn't disagree more. Training is training, it's cumulative and older guys will understand more than the youngsters. "Your grip is strong" they tell me and I'm like yeah, get a shovel, get a pick axe, spend some time with a sledge hammer, it's all cumulative. ☯

[@brianhinote2446]

I listen to a guy named Jordan Peterson all the time. I really like him. He has a statement where he says compare yourself to who you were yesterday instead of who someone else is today. I have always thought that for martial arts, especially for kids, part of the mantra should be something along the lines of I train to compete against who I was yesterday. Or something along those lines. Haven’t worked out the exact words for it but U get the idea. Great video by the way.

[@tomhudson4719]

Peterson is a legend dude. I'm sure a lot of guys into BJJ listen to him. Keep on the path homie.

[@oneguy7202]

Jigoro Kano said first this thing lmao

[@chillazaraka]

When i show up to any class for martial arts i focus on three things, in this order. 1. Goofing off and having fun with teammates first and foremost. Whats the point if im not having fun. 2. Learning. Trying to improve what i know im not good at. Try to weaponize what i know i am good at. Become a better fighter. Practice the mindset youl take into competition in your sparring. Etc etc. 3. Get in good shape. Happens all by itself so long as you do your best. I dont worry about trophies or medals. The better guy on one day could be a loser on the next. Nothing to be gained from staking your pride and ego off of an object that only means you looked good on a particular day. Ive had losses im more proud of that wins because i knew i learned something vs getting my ego inflated that led to much bigger consequences down the road. I dont worry about belts. Its mentally exhausting thinking of when i might get the next one. Be confident and happy with who you are, not what your wrapping around your waist to keep your pants up. Obviously belts mean something but you know what i mean and when i do advance im obviously happy about it, but i try to keep it out of mind. A lower ranking person can still beat you. A big person who is only half as good can still beat you. The belt doesnt mean all that much, its just a personal milestone marker for you and its only relevant at your school. Dont treat it as anything more than that.

[@readytogo5115]

That could be used as a life lessons if people figure it out .

[@ricardopavan2369]

100% Ryron Gracie . his mind set is life inspiration.

[@metzyahrosenstein4827]

Can't wait to get back to grappling once we re-open. Striking is one thing, I can keep that sharp on a bag, but many multiple partners are needed to get any better at jiu jitsu and wrestling.

[@LibraryAstro]

Very true. Grappling is way more complex than striking. Striking is like biology and grappling is like physics.

[@frantisekstemberk2346]

you won’t get sharp on a heavy bag, you need to spar to get you reactions and timing right

[@metzyahrosenstein4827]

@@frantisekstemberk2346 for sure, but I'm not training to fight, I'm training to keep myself from getting fat so I can train my students to fight when this lockdown shit is done with. Gotta stay fast at the least.

[@metzyahrosenstein4827]

@HEAT1996 hit it with the tretise dawg, I agree, but due to lack of being able to move around with people at this juncture you can keep from getting slow on the bag at least. Keep my limbs limber, set up the garage with cones for footwork drills and such. When things reopen ill go back to getting kicked in the thighs and waking up feeling like shit just from holding pads.

[@LibraryAstro]

@HEAT1996 I never made an argument that you can just strike without a partner and be good. I was just saying grappling is more complex. It takes longer to become a good grapple than a striker.

[@srh4410]

Because of Rener always cutting him and talking all the time I didn’t knew he could express himself so well and was so wise

[@wrightsong]

I should have... I shouldn't have... What stories we tell ourselves. I'm enough. I'm whole.

[@Chaz_NFQ]

“Keep it playful” written behind Ryron 😎

[@marcobala9284]

I work rotating schedule days/nights for 12 hrs @ a blue collar job also have 3 kids and a wife, and still manage to stay consistent. Been training for almost 2 years and it is rough. Excuses are easier to make! Can't see life without BJJ

[@cwesley2005]

Completely agree. I stalled at 2 stripes on my blue then had a bunch of great brown belts get their black belt and they moved on. Classes then became less interesting, then injuries, then work, then kids, now I’m done and I really miss it but was glad to have the journey

[@freakincreeks6055]

They stop because there becomes a time where you feel pressure to compete so you leave.

[@ropongi1008]

This would be a better conversation to have with blue and purple belts, not a whole room full of white belts. You could preach to white belts all day long about"keeping it playful", but they haven't stood the test of time yet. I know what he is means by " keep it playful" and don't compare yourself to others, but there are mixed messages in that statement. The core reason you practice anything is to improve at it, and it can be frustrating and discouraging if you don't notice any improvement. It's human nature to want feel as though progress is being made. Not to mention, it can be embarrassing to have lower belts and newer people constantly dominate you.

[@LibraryAstro]

That's a good point.

[@HKasian]

agreed. But that's exactly the point he's making. Black belts on a bad day can be tapped out by a brown belt on a good day, it's part of the growth. He is saying to stick with it and use personal / internal motivation and growth as opposed to seeking external validation of your skills as the anchor to your road in BJJ. It doesn't matter if you get dominated, if you're eating mat every class, as long as you can beat who you were yesterday, you've already won. Leave ego by the door.

[@ropongi1008]

@@HKasian that's a nice re-hash of what has already been said (probably millions of times/or who knows how much) He was also saying that the reality is many people do quit, and very often, he believes that it's probably for that reason. To every thing you repeated above, like "enjoy the journey", and " leave your ego at the door", the reality is (even though it's actually great advice that I agree with), it's easier said than done.

[@lonniebeal6032]

A month used to be $35, now over $120, a gun is cheaper.

[@tete7272]

But the range isn’t cheaper my friend. If you get a gun, be ready to train two to three times a week

[@xorlacanj8051]

Some people quit because they can’t afford it and unexpected things happen in their lives.

[@paulbridgman3437]

I chose not to watch this because I don't want to quit.

[@kauaikane1894]

Wise words from such a respectful thoughtful person

[@josecavazos1869]

I have trained boxing and bjj together. I quit bjj because it went from $120 to $170 a month in a span of 2 years. I stayed with boxing because its only 50 bucks a month.

[@tms9461]

This is exactly what I needed to hear.

[@rickc16]

there is a period in a martial arts journey when you get good quick & then you have a "suck" period that can last a long time. A lot if people quit during that phase.

[@illswagr1]

Constant injuries is making me contemplate sadly

[@zachroetker4505]

This is directly applicable to the battlefield of business also. Stay hungry!

[@2012enpassant]

Because of ringworm? Some folks are dirty & roll on mats that don’t get cleaned enough!

[@CheyHarden]

I stopped because it wasn't fun anymore.

[@surfside16]

I didn't like it either. Rolling around on the ground with sweaty guys and getting injured was not for me. I would have like to have fought them in the ring and really kicked their asses.

[@memeking5426]

Competition sometimes good, comparison never good

[@rationalthinker9612]

I think it is mostly injuries hands down....some people get injured and then they can't work and generate income....no income scares them enough to not risk going back and getting injured again

[@jrtien]

Ryron has such a good philosophy on teaching. I would like to learn from him so that I can achieve a similar jiu jitsu philosophy.

[@genarohernandezjr.6589]

Just because I'm not there anymore, doesn't mean I stopped training. The Basics was too far for me to drive to. That's why I initially changed gyms. But I am still training. Even during the pandemic I am doing what I can. I appreciate having met Ryron and having trained at The Basics. Now I am training on the West Coast, several years after I started at The Basics.

[@rocker8692]

Appreciate what you have,definitely.Well if people arent A holes to each other it should be fun,right.

[@lovernotfighter]

I quit Jiu- Jitsu because I felt that I wasn't improving. I found out that I was Diabetic so that was the main factor. I was also being made fun of by some people. I was 48 years old when I started and had survived a heart attack. I decided enough of this B.S.

[@surfside16]

I hear you. There are a lot of A-holes in the martial arts classes. Many are short guys with a chip on their shoulder trying to be tough guys. So, they pull some shit on you when your not expecting it to build up their messed egos. I hate short people.

[@lovernotfighter]

@@micker9830 I appreciate the thoughts. I'm 69 years old now and the Martial Arts are not on my agenda anymore. I did however get treatment for my diabetes and went on to get Ikkyu(1st degree Brown Belt in Shorin Ryu, ) I didn't really need the Belts though, I'm not interested too much in that aspect . I also studied some Chin Na with Grandmaster Greg Fraser in San Diego. I got what I needed from BJJ and that was enough for me. I've always been self driven and make my decisions based on my own needs. I'm doing fine and involved in other endeavors these days. Thanks for the thoughts.

[@kingeddy1645]

@@lovernotfighter How did the Diabetes affect you?

[@kuriosites]

I think the instructor does make a big difference in understanding that not everyone is there for the same reason. Also, there's opportunity cost. If I go to a 90 minute class, twice a week, that might be 5 hours a week with travel, changing, etc. We all have a finite amount of time and some activities go by the way side.

[@morganpope9594]

So strange that they put this out. I don't even practice jujitsu. But I had recently been thinking about how internally cancerous comparison can become. It erodes the will and desire to excel, can even lead to depression.

[@choppol24]

Thanks dude. I was doing ITF TKD and my 4th dan instructor put me down by saying some stupid shit like “if you do thing to a black belt you will be put down”. My response was like “I would like to see that happen”. I left as he was not supporting myself but others to improve.

[@SuperSpiroman]

The instructors are at the center. I've picked up and dropped many things ive tried. But BJJ is something that I enjoy because the academy I go to promotes family and unity. And all the students I've trained with, even the higher belts are very respectful and eager to teach you. Culture and etiquette is very huge, its hard to retain people when they don't buy into your system. Another reason is lifestyle, let's be honest. Most people that want to lose weight or try anything new quite. Very few people stick to something and make it a part of their life. If you want to stick to BJJ, you have to go for your own reasons. And when doubts kreep up, just show up anyways. Showing up is the hardest part, once you're there its all good.

[@bushmang01]

Authoritism - Ancient false doctrines Why is Eddie B so hated, why was it so hard to change, e.g what one wears, why is he so loved by his students, he is the first to start stripping back my first points

[@fredinandethebull2266]

I instruct in TKD/mma and this is a True statement for Most.

[@tombslasher]

Money, financial problems, life , boredem and worked related.

[@andrewvillanueva4222]

People train in martial arts for interest. But after a year they realize this is a commitment. Training in martial arts you have to build a passion so that you will continue to go.

[@rubenguevara5753]

I wonder if He teaches this to kids... this is a valuable lesson that kids also need to learn

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

Sometimes you just realize that having a man between your legs a few times a week isn't working for you anymore. Might be fun when you are 20 but not so much when you are 50.

[@datt5698]

I quit because of the gnarly skin rashes.... staph and ringworm. The mats can be cleaned well but hard to control others coming in dirty. Otherwise I probably would have stuck with it.

[@joshuahaught4812]

So true. The mats were spotless, but people would come in wearing gi's that smelled like shit. I would get ringworm all the time. I went to a 10th planet gym and the mats were clean all the time and everyone seemed to have a better sense of hygiene. gi's are more of a pain in the ass to wash (and then hang dry) and most people only had 1 gi, where as you could have 5 rashgaurds and shorts for the price of one gi; and they are easier to maintain

[@datt5698]

@@joshuahaught4812 I guess I could have tried rolling no gi only.... that could work. I wasnt as good without being able to grip a gi. Lol... Also I have heard of certain soaps working well. Who knows. Maybe one day I'll try again?

[@joshuahaught4812]

@@datt5698 I'm in the same boat brotha. Stopped training a few years back; kids were/are a big reason. My son's about the age for it so I was thinking about doing that with him...but who knows lol. I will eventually, but other life priorities atm. Good luck with your path, all the best to you.

[@ronthemogul]

Matt Dieter tea tree body washes like defense soaps work. Let your gi dry In the sun and wash it twice with hot water detergent and disinfectant. You won’t catch anything if you clean yourself immediately after class

[@joshuahaught4812]

@@ronthemogul semantics dude. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself

[@pierluigimura2336]

Many quit a Martial Art to start with another one, as this is the only way to fully pursue their curiosity and passion. Time comes when an Art, teacher or fellows community has given all they could. Then, you realize further learning is elsewhere. I bet these patrinizing masters never speak this truth out.

[@Nepthu]

I left my BJJ gym because of an injury but also because I made zero friends. As a smaller guy, I felt like the odd man out whenever it was time to partner up. I often had to roll with newbies or women who were big complainers. The few times I made a friend in class who wanted to roll with me, he would quit after a few months. It sucks. No rapport = no money.

[@kuriosites]

Or when you roll with bigger guys, they like to stroke their egos by smashing you?

[@dominiknowaczyk9633]

Most people quit very fast, most people don't have the discipline to keep showing up 2-3 times a week, they get beat up and get discouraged.

[@Chris-vc1jj]

I stopped at 2:35 to answer this question. I am a white belt since 1994 yup it's true, most of you commenting will beat me badly in Jiu-Jitsu. I love jiu-jitsu like nothing else in this world. I grew up playing football, basketball, soccer, track, wrestled, boxed. I am 46 years old watched more jiu-jitsu tournaments and matches that most people who do jiu-jitsu, nothing to brag about. The reason most people quit is actually complex but I will give you the undoubtedly the most common reason: They lose interest. Anyone including Rener or whoever answers differently than that doesn't understand their clients. Much respect to Ryron and I love his Brother but as Juyama stated, it really is nice to hear to Ryon speak uninterrupted and I am exceptionally happy to see him and hear his words. You can tell he is a natural leader like Rener but he I noticed he has a much more endearing quality about him, he makes you want to listen, he entices you to participate and he demonstrates a unique power and quality to speak purposefully softly and forcing the enticed to listen is more. Rest assured one day, I will get back to it and yes, I am one of the few who never lost interest, I lost my life as I once knew it.

[@majorawol]

I think the belts have something to do with that. Not all belts are equal... but somewhere, there's supposed to be a standard. So... indeed, the surest way to be miserable is to compare yourself to others, but at the same time, it's okay to compare, and okay if you suck after 20 years (in contrast to others). Don't let that cramp you. That too is part of training. Resilience is broad. You're still alive and get to train. Rejoice. Most people don't ever set foot on a mat.

[@glnholler]

I never compared myself to anyone in my dojo. It’s the money, the schedule, the kids I have to take care of, and the MONEY! I work graveyard shift (10pm -6:30am).... nuff said. That’s why I quit. I never wanted to quit but I have to make sacrifices to lessen the burden on my finances and health( for no sleep).

[@ivankerr3570]

All a total con. Huge fees . Ridiculous. I did Traditional Ju Jitsu for many years and was only paying a couple of pounds for Matt fees every session. Teachers gave up their time on a volunteer basis and still do. This is in the uk. It’s hard to achieve Dan grades as they aren’t paid for like Bjj. Especially in the America’s. Even the initial Competition that Gracie competed in was staged and organised by him so that none of the other competitors could possibly win . There wasn’t even a wrestler (wrestling is BJJ) allowed simply because they would have won. Why oh why are all these people so gullible.

[@stev.7384]

I quitted because i could not pay the classes anymore, here there are no good jiu jitsu dojos, the ones that know teach you if you pay what they want, if you buy the clothes they sell, if you buy the suplements they offer you. If you don't, you can leave but never come back again. I've meet a lot of good coachs but there are too many that only want money, doesnt care if you have talent

[@AwesomeConsoles]

So weird to hear him talk and not have someone interrupt

[@adamzoubi96]

I came into juijitsu with the mindset of leaving after I get my blue belt, and the reason for that is that I'm trying to get a well rounded skillset, I don't want to be the juijitsu guy, I already have a background in boxing and kickboxing, now when I became good enough at ground fighting I need to start working on my wrestling. That's the mindset I had coming into bjj to be honest. I'm not saying you should do that but I am saying you don't have to be the best bjj guy to defend yourself, if you're a good blue belt your good enough at ground fighting. For me I wanna be well rounded, and I think bjj is the least important skill in self defense and mma, I'd say wrestling and boxing are way more important. But it's still essential to learn bjj

[@realitywithmj4334]

no doubt that wrestling and boxing are better for the street and mma. that is why there are 10x more wrestlers in the ufc hall of fame than bjj people.

[@ΧρήστοςΜπαμπάνας]

for me the best are bjj and muay thai. It is a deadly kombo

[@thatjiu-jitsuskatergirl5644]

I have very little free money and I still make it happen, and I have to ride the bus at least 45 to 50 minutes minimum there and 45 to 50 minutes home well also having to wait sometimes 20 to 30 minutes for the bus home. And I still make it happen.

[@monkeytrollhunter]

I will start a new job next summer and I want to train in Jiu-jitsu because I want to lose weight, I want to feel good about myself and learn how to defend myself.

[@MIKESTREED]

Actually, comparison blew me away and is what drew me to BJJ. I wanted what he had. Knowledge. Experience. it’s addicting...

[@blakesimons9378]

See but you’re comparison is more of, how can I get there...rather than I should already be there

[@MIKESTREED]

Blake Simons now my comparison is, ‘Man, I wish I didn’t live in a liberal state that closed gyms’

[@blakesimons9378]

michael streed haha Texas is open!

[@1jbunceiii]

I watch this video when I am on the edge of not going back

[@markvilleneuve6655]

My father is my sensei in Traditional Shoto Kan karate. I started when I was 5 years old in 1970. In 1981 my father relocated his dojo at the boys and girls club in Ottawa Canada. I was a brown belt. My father had me doing both kids class and adult class when I was 12 years old. We had many people from different arts come and go. They will get their black belt and quit. Why, They already had a black belt from another art. Cool. This way I can learn something new as well. It is called knowledge. Keep what works for you. By the time a person reach green belt or 3 years and they are getting the best out of you. You just found your future champion. Want some don't understand you are performing at max 30% while they are giving all they can. When I became a black belt at age 18. You have to be 18 and over to get your black belt at one time. Now it is 16 at our dojo. Some kids are just that good. I took time off for a couple of years. I was a musician as well. Doing one class A week and not teaching with my favorite sparring partner. Or we call it fight night night. Every Friday. Everyone one invited. All levels. One hour class for the children. 2 hour class for adults. The adults helps the children class show what they can do. And teach it rather then just doing it. I started this at Orange belt level. There are some better Orange and green belt that are better teachers and just less skill. Until they reach black belt they be kicking your butt all over the place. Good fighters, good teachers, are hard to find as one. 20 years at the Boys club. Was my past memories. I was a member of the boys club when I was 10 years old.

[@fairuzmy]

thank you... this is good advise.

[@no1fibersplicer525]

So it’s your fault not ours. I wish I could answer my business problems that way. Though it’s true, it’s up to business owners to come up with a solution to this problem.

[@ifthatthenthis3797]

No it isn't. They're not in a business of helping you grow they're in a business of teaching classes your growth depends on yourself.

[@no1fibersplicer525]

IfThatThenThis and that’s why they have videos discussing the problem. I didn’t say they were wrong. It’s just never going to change because the majority of students that come through will keep doing the same thing.

[@terrellpotter2645]

$ is often a problem.

[@robedwards6926]

I already knew the answer before he said it because it's exactly what I'm experiencing right now. I'm older, 45, and just learning so I'm rolling with guys more fit and flexible then me. I feel like I can handle newbies like me but when I go against striped white belts I get my a** kicked. I wonder if I'll be able to progress into being competitive rolling with higher belts so I contemplate quitting. However, I don't want to be a quitter so I'm trying to push through and hopefully something positive will come of it.

[@borgullet3376]

Appreciate What You Have.. Golden Gospel

[@Larrypint]

But you automatically compare your skills and strength to others when you compete. I did for 6 month judo and felt it wasn't for me, then I did 3 years karate and it was way more my thing but too traditional and then I went to boxing age 20 and it's with me since 10 years and will be with me till I die.

[@LibraryAstro]

Tradition can definitely be a hindrance on martial arts. They refuse to involve and fall behind. In kyokushin they elbow with a closed fist but the Thai boxing way (with open palm) has been proven to be more efficient in speed and damage. And the katas for me takes too much time and I just want to learn to fight. This doesn't help as most karate classes are 2 days a week. Like you I'm moving into something similar. Muay thai and boxing. Even though you're into boxing now, don't abandon your kicks bro. It can come in handy.

[@surfside16]

Same for me. Boxing was a good fit for me and I liked it. Rolling around on the ground with sweaty guys trying to choke you out or arm bar you was a drag. I would have like to have gotten them in the ring with me. The short guys are the worst. They have a chip on their shoulder because they are short.

[@MrAkosFintor]

"the root of all unhappiness is comparison "

[@javiazar]

My biggest issue is my current BJJ gym's obsession with competition... I don't wanna compete! It's all "the next competition is coming up, are you going?"... all the fucking time is competition, competition, tournaments, tournaments... LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE! I just wanna learn BJJ!!!

[@b1gmustang567]

Some guys want a fast flashy sports car some some want a strong durable truck.

[@pulsarlights2825]

"Check your ego at the door" I saw that on a sign at a few jui jitsu places over the years.

[@realitywithmj4334]

it has been a bodybuilding term for decades as you enter the gym.

[@timmyotoole6063]

I quit because of social anxiety and body image. 5 yrs of off and on training. I don't think there is one prevailing reason though and certainly not the reason stated in this vid. It's most likely people that quit simply value other things over jiu jitsu

[@surfside16]

BJJ was really boring to me. Boxing or Muay Thai was more interesting. And those skills would be better in a street confrontation in my view.

[@stillnessinmovement]

I think that a fair # who quit got injured while rolling. this is true of most martial arts. injuries are the most common reason overall that people quit exercise long-term. and BJJ is a sport where joint injuries are very common. othewise, good discussion.

[@alexbambamextra]

Because is hard! Most people are not motivated. Anything that is hard people won't last.

[@alanmiller6110]

It's a path, not a destination.

[@fil-am_film_maker6190]

So true keep it playful

[@TonyFernandezjkdjedi]

Excellent coaching advice!!

[@MatthewBirtch]

Ryron a very wise guy was blessed to have done a 2 day seminar with him in Singapore

[@imsorrythankyouplease7613]

If you don’t enjoy the process, you won’t enjoy the process. If you’re in it to reach a goal like Confidence, you’ll stop. If you enjoy the process of getting better, you won’t skip classes, you won’t short change yourself, you won’t get disappointed if you don’t expect to reach a goal, you won’t drift away because you think class is not worth it if you enjoy the process.

[@mdouet]

Same thing applies to learning a musical instrument. I'm learning drums and it's really demoralizing watching videos of young kids absolutely destroying the drums.

[@paragon1782]

If you find a muay thai gym and only spar with smart partners then you will get half the damage you would in bjj. I quit because I was always sore or had a joint tweaked and couldn't work out consistently. The joint and neck/spine damage you risk in bjj is usually a bigger risk to quality of life than boxing or kickboxing is as a hobbyist.