You’ll Still Get Ads, Tho

[@techlinked]

hey guys its riley from the video and have you ever felt the urge to burst into a crowded restaurant on a Friday night and shout "Click this link sponsr.is/bootdev_TechLinked and use my code TECHLINKED to get 25% off your first payment for boot.dev. That’s 25% off your first month or your first year, depending on the subscription you choose." ? Because let me say from experience don't do that

[@spritzerland658]

riley, why

[@GeeVeee]

At this point my KZbin is so modded I not only lack Ads but pretty much everything that doesn't have to do with the video playing, lol.

[@Ryzza5]

Nerdiest sentence? Bro please you were Mr Carbon Nanotubes for a few years.

[@bjni]

@@spritzerland658 because boot dev is fucking amazing.

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

​@@spritzerland658 *Revelation 3:20* Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless. Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

[@BlueberryJamPie]

Incredible how Google keeps making KZbin worse. The search function is already hot garbage only showing about 5 videos related to the search, then putting random videos in, but there will be ads in the search function????

[@GeoStreber]

There's a term for it. It's called "enshittification".

[@alexbrodmen]

if click videos tab at the top then it will only show related videos

[@TKInternational76]

No... Past year yt has gotten quite gold.

[@sadslavboy]

yea the sheer wall of extensions I use to make KZbin palatable is insane. If youre on Firefox, I highly recommend KZbin Redux, its an extension that tries and recreate the old youtube experience in their modern layout.

[@_Ker]

If you have an adblocker like ublock origin, you can have it delete these unrelated results. I would put the rules here, but it would get the comment auto deleted.

[@AllExistence]

They thought putting ads into MUSIC VIDEOS was UNINTERRUPTIVE?!

[@Faith-sl1re]

Music videos are quite popular since people who don't usually use KZbin will listen music on it so it's more so picking the most crowded places to place ads in

[@LunaWitcherArt]

They gotta annoy you somehow, to manipulate you into buying Premium! Also I'm pretty sure you can get KZbin Music with Premium Lite, which might be less disruptive. Personally, my family is being held hostage by Premium because the ads are so disruptive we had to buy the family version just for it to be more cost-effective.

[@P1taJ]

KZbin probably has to pay the record labels for each play of the music videos, on top of what it costs to serve the video itself

[@ASeriesOfAttempts]

@@P1taJ Yeah that's probably it, unfortunate to everyone all around, except the record label.

[@HerbaMachina]

​@@P1taJ they do not, KZbin is providing a service to the record label, not the other way around

[@minimalrandom]

If there are ads in premium why call it premium

[@kaimojepaslt]

its premium ads

[@WanderingExistence]

Ya-uhmm, premium ads 🤤🤤🤤

[@mycosys]

Its premature and make you go ummmmmmmmmmmm - premi-um

[@littlejack59]

​@@kaimojepasltI will still be served scams and weird NSFW anime games

[@Banditxam4]

Pre mature ads

[@slashtiger1]

One thing I don't get is why companies still think it seems OK to have users pay _and_ serve them ads... It's either/or for me. Either I get ads, _or_ I pay. But not both. Never.

[@ArjunSudhakar]

Capitalists love to push boundaries of anti-consumer practices. Honestly, I am not surprised if they make more pathetic plans.

[@RememberingGames]

True, then why do I have to see sponsors segments with my premium sub? All sponsors are a spit in my face. I hate them with all my heart. The other day Linus making a video on how to adblock.... with a sponsor. Is this a joke?? While making money from ads. Can it be more hypocrite than that?

[@RememberingGames]

Every video with a sponsor should be automatically demonetized from ads and money from my youtube premium sub.

[@slashtiger1]

@@CnutLongsword that’s not the same though. You pay a CATV-provider for the right to receive stations, but the content _on these stations_ cannot be influenced by said providers. Here, the content is available for free with ads, or in a paid subscription without ads. Both of which are fine with me. What isn’t fine with me, is that more and more companies (content providers such as Disney, Netflix and Warner) seem to think that people are ok with paying for content whilst _still_ having ads. That should be prohibited in my book… Same with buying a tv or other device for £100 and still being forced to see ads _within the main interface_ of said device._ I am not referring to ads within apps here, as these cannot be influenced by the manufacturer of the device. It’s similar to how the ads run by stations cannot be influenced by CATV-providers.

[@slashtiger1]

@@RememberingGames Again, this is out of control of the platform. It’s the same point at which the comparison to linear television fails. That being said, this _is_ the reason why I don’t think I’ll be taking out a KZbin Premium subscription any time soon.

[@sharvay]

I'd rather pay $12 to the adblock team to eliminate all the ads

[@satyamkhadka5655]

😂😂😂😂

[@Tushar_Talwar_09]

Or you can use KZbin Revanced.

[@fricki1997]

Wait y'all are paying for adblock?

[@ThePimpinator]

​@fricki1997 they're doing god's work for free, so we should support them from time to time

[@reaperfs2371]

​@@fricki1997he's saying he's willing to donate to help the adblock teams

[@TwistdTrip]

Testing = how many suckers can we get to pay $12 for almost nothing added

[@SaHaRaSquad]

The actual test is "would we get away with putting some ads into the full premium plan in the future?" If this Premium Lite becomes successful enough YT will simply remove the plan again and put the same amount of ads into the full premium one because they know it won't upset people too much.

[@Suirano]

KZbin will do Premium lite but then will increase the ad amount over time and then put ads in Premium because they will release a new tier called Premium Plus that will have no ads but costs twice as much as Premium now. Every company does this crap.

[@SaHaRaSquad]

Especially now that they've banned ad blockers in Chrome they know they can get away with it.

[@themisterh]

Don't give them ideas! Noooo

[@verygoodbrother]

@@SaHaRaSquad They haven't banned ad blcokers but they are definitely putting blockers in place to make it harder to block ads.

[@turtlefrog369]

its acutally a psychological attack on the consumer and it happens often. Imagine someone wants to buy something and the store gives two options. One option is shitty and too expensive and the other option is less shitty and a little more expensive, they can ask more for the lesser shitty option because of the existence of the shittier option. The consumer will probably go for the the less shittier option even though its still overpriced because the price/value proposition is just better.

[@masterinico]

Shhhhhh stahp I have had enough depression for this hour it’s too soon for more

[@spacemansquid]

Once more, “piracy” treats me infinitely better than paying Google for lesser service.

[@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters]

When paying customers get a worse experience than those who pirate, how was that called? Oh right. Enshittification.

[@PropaneWP]

Enshittification is such a loaded world. They are pivoting to innovate a digital transformation into the Fecalverse.

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

I beat them. I don't get ads on the TV app anymore.

[@MLPdraedek]

@@TheSolidSnakeOili beat them, I downloaded smarttube on my tv

[@ByAyzen]

​@@TheSolidSnakeOili dont get any ads on my phone like 6 months :D

[@jernaugurgeh451]

@@TheSolidSnakeOil How you do that?

[@kalle5548]

Crazy, I've been paying for premium up until recently. Paying $13 was fair game for me since it always defalted to the highest quality, no adds, queuing videos, and backgroudplay. Maybe 4 months back, they started with pop ups saying that they might start showing adds in premium, then they started to drop quality, so having default mode set to high quality would result in 144p on a 4k screen and I had to manually go and set the video to 4K every time. Now they also increased the price of premium so they lost a customer and I imagine I'm not the only one.

[@Tinky1rs]

there are add-ons /extensions to force youtube settings to always default to the highest possible resolution. Stupid you'd need them though

[@kalle5548]

@@SookaNooka Thanks, I'm on Android and used Vance before, but I'll check it out

[@sketchman01]

Yep. The quality thing is super annoying. I don't use yt music anymore because it sucks compared to the old Google play music. If the price goes up anymore or they try to add ads its definitely time to switch to nebula or floatplane

[@benstanfill363]

There’s still a setting for high quality as default.

[@njdotson]

Sometimes I've thought of having premium but I feel like it's just better to have an unofficial app that does it better

[@malikfaisal416]

The ads on my KZbin app timeline are all just promoting gambling or loans. It feels like one of those sketchy websites for pirated movies.

[@WanderingExistence]

I've tried to watch KZbin without logging in and it shows the most random ads. Some are ordinary, some are sketchy, and some are just downright gross.

[@MrTStat]

I think it depends on your location in the world Different places different advertisers

[@kmeanxneth]

you can go to your "My Ad Center" and pick a option to limit gambling ads. not to mention you can there pick topics what you would like to see and what not. after i did that i didn't see gambling ads (ofc the Personalized ads need to be on)

[@andreirachko]

I’m a longtime Los Angeles resident. This year, KZbin showed me ads for: - “I’m drunk and I’m singing” channels with 10 subscribers - immigration services, in languages I don’t speak - weird religious cults - $500M mansions and apartments - microloans and credit repair services - GOLD. Lots of ads for gold - casinos and very sketchy resorts - various tools for “your thriving multinational corporation” (I’m a broke student) - political ads for both parties - the local metro agency telling me to not jump in front of a train At this point even pirate sites have more consistent and relevant ads than KZbin.

[@YOEL_44]

​@@andreirachko What a ride huh, time to make it stop?

[@Deses]

$12 a month to see LESS adds is CRAZY. Google lost their minds.

[@Blarnix]

Paying a subscription to still get ads is actually one of the most insane proposals I’ve ever heard in my life.

[@danieloberhofer9035]

Nah, it's called Amazon Prime.

[@Ehh.....]

Thats how cable has always been.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@Ehh..... I knew someone was going to bring that up. Cable have an infrastructure. KZbin just have servers.

[@samwhaleIV]

​@@saulgoodman2018what do you mean? Servers require a huge amount of infrastructure and financial support.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@samwhaleIV Not as much as cable. Cable have more then just servers.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

I absolutely despise ads and will always do everything I can to avoid them, until the point there is no way to avoid them on a product, at which point I will refuse to ever use that product again

[@gmt1]

I keep saying I'd buy Premium Lite if all it did was block ads, but clearly they're too fking greedy to even consider it. They want us to _pay_ to see ads anyway.

[@Warp2090]

Adblockers:

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

Still a positive no - they either drop the price right down, or adblock all the way. Google started to wreck this service years ago, anybody else remember how KZbin used to be many years ago? Ads at on the sidebar and that was it. On my tablet where I can't block their nonsense, I have never once watched an advert and thought, oh that looks good. If anything, intrusive adverts just put me off.

[@elderman64]

$12 a month to not have basically any additional features and still have a trashy ad ridden experience? Yeah KZbin has some real geniuses up there.

[@danieloberhofer9035]

As long as enough people subscribe, I bet those same geniuses will get a raise.

[@petergerdes1094]

Just because you don't find it worthwhile doesn't mean no one does. Lots of people like to use KZbin to fall asleep to but are woken up by ads. This lets you avoid that more cheaply (music videos don't autoplay...or never have for me). You don't have to buy it so isn't it good people who might find it worthwhile have the option?

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@petergerdes1094 Meanwhile, I'm able to cut all ads and get all the nice features of Premium for... $0.

[@danboy12342]

Yeah they are genius, they'll probably make money on it

[@arglebargle5531]

​@@petergerdes1094 ah yes, nothing says worthwhile like KZbin selling me the answer to a problem they themselves created when they took away creators' ability to fully control their monetization options.

[@iceneko9170]

"You will see ads on music and shorts." WHAT THE F*CK KZbin. ADS ON SHORTFORM CONTENT? I guess KZbin is REALLY feeling the burn in giving into the tiktok brianrot but making it ad free in the first place.

[@polandman07]

Yes, KZbin has ads on shorts. Back when I watched them, they were baked into the feed and you could just scroll to skip. Idk if anything has changed since then

[@Phuckitall]

What's crazy is they think it's a vital service, and those who need it will pay for! 😂😂

[@polandman07]

@@Phuckitall I use KZbin ReVanced / RVX to remove shorts from my feed and make the app bearable. Also has no ads, video downloading and it's free. If they made it so you can use any old version of the app with Premium, I'd actually consider it, as the older layouts were better imo. Why don't companies do this? It would benefit both them (more money) and the consumer (an actually decent user experience).

[@joelconolly5574]

So KZbin increased the price of Premium everywhere, introduce a new plan that claims "no ads" and expect people to buy a "cheaper" subscription that's featureless but also shows ads in other parts of the platform? That's just sugarcoating with extra steps.

[@jsncrso]

That's if you buy it via a phone or tablet. I pay $14 a month for full premium

[@luisostasuc8135]

It's why I won't get premium. $5 a month would have been my max, still is, but it's got to really be ad-free.

[@Polotoed]

All I want is an ad-free experience on YT without having to also pay for YT Music, which I never use, but makes up 2/3rds of the price. I'd be completely down for an ad-free subscription for 5 bucks.

[@marekkedzierski8237]

$12 a month for KZbin with "limited ads"? No, thank you, that is more then Netflix costs.

[@jasonfails237]

I believe that was $12AUD. It'd be much less in USD because I only pay like $15 for premium

[@sullenscr]

adblocking tools still better

[@DarthVader1977]

more than*

[@robina.jensen6114]

@@DarthVader1977 Thank you Mr. Spell professor. If you hadn't made that correction, we wouldn't have gotten the point at all!

[@phoenixmorphix]

​@@robina.jensen6114 right! Their correction added a newfound revelation that completely altered the meaning of this 17 word comment. Truly a hero for us all!

[@TheGrinningViking]

There needs to be a law that, for businesses making over a million dollars in revenue a year, they need to offer an ad free experience for no more than either $50 a year or twice the median profit per customer per year (whichever is greater, though it would be $50) Companies are so desperate to get a couple bucks in ad revenue that they ruin the experience for users and try to charge rediculous amounts to unruin it.

[@kaileh57]

Can't wait for a single piece of paper to cause me to lose my 6G signal

[@SalzmanSoftware]

6G but it doesn’t support phones with cases

[@_nahwhat]

6G but your phone can't be in your pocket

[@realcartoongirl]

6G but no

[@CyanRooper]

6G but

[@YOEL_44]

How optimistic, the thinest of farts can already leave you without signal.

[@WilliamHaisch]

If I’m buying a *robotic arm,* it’s going to be doing a *different job* than cooking… those showers and toilets ain’t cleaning themselves! 😂

[@BassRacerx]

the second half of the sentence did not go in the direction that i thought it would..

[@Nbc66]

Riley can i touch your mustache

[@Pr0toPoTaT0]

Let's get this man his wish!!!!! He just wants a gentle rub!!

[@tinncan]

Probably for a price... He looks like that kind of guy, plus he doesn't seem to really have a valid role in a post ncix bro connection ltt world because he is so trudeau Canadian...

[@somhrsh]

No, i asked first

[@kamaur01]

Which mustache? He has two.

[@The_Divergent]

I sometimes suspect that isnt real and want to rip it *Scooby doo reference

[@MentalEdge]

Sigh... Paying INSTEAD of seeing ads makes sense. Paying, and still having to tolerate ads.... Doesn't.

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

Feels a lot like the Netflix light plan. Pay the lowest tier to get everything *except* what you'd need most.

[@realcartoongirl]

hi

[@blaster915]

Squeeze every nickle and dime.

[@Feeble_cursed_one]

But access to Netflix content on a tv model

[@jimmkekw]

except that youtube is free

[@Jocraft2039]

Except that Netflix „light“ is actually worth the money like for 4,99€ it’s totally fine

[@theshadowdirector]

Walling off background play has always been so infuriating when it's a basic OS feature.

[@CatsRobloxOther2nd]

On iOS PnP let's you have essential background play

[@derekcarter2645]

So 12 dollars a month for ads and no background play? Wild

[@PropaneWP]

"It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, twelve dollars?"

[@lauriekimani]

At least where I live I pay ≈ 3 dollars for full premium + youtube music.

[@lilyyoung1002]

Dang ​@@lauriekimani

[@Manamore]

Those prices I think were AUD and are mobile inflated (my premium is $16.99AUD on PC, also those prices and mine include a 10% GST already added in the price).

[@JennaBenna0123]

it’s bullshit

[@loolermeister8578]

Shoutout to Jessica, her 'somehow related but really niche' info drops make this show so much more fun to watch!

[@tim5273]

That seagull laugh at 10:03 had me dying 😂 Absolutely nailed it!

[@LighteningOne]

🤣

[@theeternalnow6506]

22 euros for prime. Jesus christ. KZbin's been getting out of hand with the amount of ads lately on the free version and that's probably no coincedence.

[@jac42421]

exactly, they’re probably hoping after increasing the ads and pissing people off, that they’ll pay for the limited which would probably just take the experience back to where it was a few years ago when it was free.

[@thelakeman2538]

Google's strategy usually involves testing the waters and slowly boiling the frog, so I wouldn't surprised if this succeeds they will just straight up add ads to regular YT premium (despite already hiking prices, though it's still reasonable for me), if they do that or uncouple YT music/add ads to it, then I'm just gonna cancel my subscription and use revanced + newpipe on all my android devices. I support paying a premium subscription to a service I use a lot given the high bandwidth costs of video streaming, but if they're just gonna make the service worse for paying customers then I don't see any point in paying them to screw me over.

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

They already increased Premium cost substantially, like 50% more in last year alone. I already cancelled mine, so you probably should before the bill will surprise you sooner or later.

[@mdstevens0612]

If I didn't already use YT Music it would be ridiculous. I feel like $3 to $5 no ads would be fine for most users, hell, $3 to $5 for no ads limited to 1080p with a separate 4k tier would be a great compromise. As it is... If people don't already use YT music or are unwilling to cancel Spotify, the value just isn't there.

[@thelakeman2538]

@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 they raised it this month for me, I have a family plan which they nearly doubled in price in my region, it's now about the same as getting two individual plans, so still worth it for me. Plus I use yt music, so not paying for like spotify instead is still a plus. If any of that changes, I'll end my subscription.

[@williamtopping]

Yep. I will just go back to blocking ads and Apple Music.

[@Lycaon1765]

What does newpipe do? I have revanced but I've never heard of that one

[@Psyda]

With that terabit download speed you can now exceed your capped data plan and rack up $20,000 in charges in only a few short seconds! What a time to be alive. Did the math: Overage: 15 TB - 20 GB = 14,980 GB ≈ 15,339,520 MB Cost: 15,339,520 MB * $0.02/MB = $306,790.40 @ 2 cents/MB Thats for 20 seconds of a speed test using 1Tb/s

[@TheRogueX]

Those speeds aren't for personal devices, they're for carrier backhaul.

[@nicholasconnerton9437]

I miss the simple times where you pay a small sum of $9.99 for zero adds and every feature.

[@saint3106]

Yeah :( I use KZbin enough to where I'd eagerly drop $10 /mo for no ads. But there's absolutely no way I'm paying for what they're asking for now.

[@hamburgerfatso]

I love the current times where a few free tools let me not watch ads and i also don't pay any money to youtube

[@DarthVader1977]

​@@saint3106I just noticed there is now a yearly option for $139.99, which is $11.67 a month. Not too bad.

[@mrwpg]

Imiss the times when the web was net zero, 0 cost,0 censorship, 0 GDPR data theft and 0 ads.

[@marcesser4218]

​@@mrwpg0 Cost für you, not for KZbin.

[@terrorbilly1]

The sarcasm is strong with this one and I love it. Keep it up and will gain a sub :)

[@MistyKathrine]

The enshitification of KZbin continues.

[@TriforceLegacyOfficial]

As a premium user, the whole Premium thing is a scam, you're better off with third party KZbin clients and ad-blockers

[@flanflanjp_]

What's that? You don't like ads and you don't like paying? Guess what? We put both those things together for you! LMAO

[@ZombieLurker]

The fact they want to charge to play app audio in the background is absolutely ridiculous. Same that they want to charge to make a video queue on mobile. All of this is free on the desktop site.

[@kamilhorvat8290]

Why would I pay for wasting my time? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

[@quinton1630]

“The estimated total pay for a Personal Chef is $59,331 per year, with an average salary of $50,802 per year.” So instead of buying the robot, you could afford 2-3 years of having a personal chef and you would do ZERO prep work and cleanup for your meals. Hmm.

[@itsdeonlol]

KZbin keeps pushing these ADS on us is crazy...

[@HeyHaunt]

And it's nothing related to our watching contents. Completely irrelevant ads.

[@zephyrzavala1695]

If your parent company is the biggest ad company on earth, they'll find a way to put more ads in your already mostly ad videos

[@sullenscr]

adblock :3

[@yensteel]

And they're already profitable. It's just milking everything out. Not that it's legally, financially or ethically wrong, but it's pissing people off and they don't care. They can get away with it and it earns them money. This is the definition of a monopoly. Switching cost is too high, network effect is too strong. In 10 years (to be safe), there will be another company that becomes a real threat.

[@DarthVader1977]

What's crazy is the thought that an English teacher ever passed you.

[@_fourier]

07:46 You mean OUR internet dad, Riley?

[@MrTStat]

What i want to know is who is paying for these ads! I never in my entire 40 years pf existance bought something because showed up on an internet ad

[@berengerchristy6256]

I once bought a Mountain Dew kickstart because I thought the ad was hilarious. This was over 10 years ago. So I guess an ad got like $2 tops out of me

[@PinataOblongata]

I constantly think the same thing! Usually, when you want something, you go searching for it and try to find the lowest price, you don't just go buy shit because some horribly loud ad had an annoying voice screaming about it at you, and most of the time you're better off buying second-hand. Surely the advertising just can't have the ROI that makes it worth it. If they spent that money on making a /good/ product that got good word-of-mouth it'd be 10x more successful than a shit product built down to the lowest cost and advertised to death until everyone already hates it. I think they just assume that advertising psychology from the 50s is somehow still relevant, when we've all evolved along with the advertising landscape.

[@teaartist6455]

@@PinataOblongata I'd say "Best price/cost ratio" or even "Meets your needs (at all)" rather than strictly lowest price, but yea. Buying something just because you've had ti shoved in your face is not something I remotely understand¹. I'll even go so far as to say that if something does end up getting shoved in my face in the few places I cannot avoid ads and that happens more than once or twice I'll outright put that shit on a blacklist. Don't care how good it may be, not getting that. ¹ Then again I would argue that those most vulnerable to advertising are those who don't have the time/awareness to research which tends to correlate with a low socioeconomic background which in turn makes ads even more predatory and immoral- (Erhm. Shoot me before I give a ted talk about ads in their current form/purpose being fundamentally immoral.)

[@tntblast500]

@@PinataOblongata If there is something (successful) businesses are good at, it's making money. Obviously there is still good return on investment when companies spend so much on it. And honestly, I still think all the advertising psychology established in the 50's is still just as relevant today. There are so many biases that make even just being aware of something so much of a leg up.

[@michalsvihla1403]

I think the way Twitter is doing blocking is how it should be done. There's a trillion ways someone can stalk your profile anyway. It's a public space and this will only make it more open - you don't get to choose your audience, but you can choose to not listen to them / see them.

[@bootdotdev]

Okay just gotta say the irony of us sponsoring this video is pretty damn good

[@overthinkingisbad]

wao

[@mianlo2624]

KZbin should be rolling out AV1 encode for more or good quality VP9 for medium sized channel ( maybe small as well). Because a lot of video quality lately looks blurry even though it has 1080p. KZbin expect us to pay premium for the enhanced high bitrate video. Good quality encoding like AV1 would reduce medium to small not upload the video in 8k to force KZbin to put AV1 in their videos.

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

Spoiler alert: "enhanced" bitrate is just AV1. KZbin is literally gatekeep encoding now.

[@RonPhillips420]

KZbin shows me ads on premium and when I emailed them they tried telling me the ads are features. They are ads telling me about features on youtube premium but I know they are meant to keep me paying for youtube premium

[@Quixidion]

It's astonishing, how many stupid things people think of nowadays.. Or how many people just get away with things like it is nothing.

[@willwunsche6940]

I wish OpenAi was forced to stay a nonprofit. But you know with Microsoft forcing $14 billion USD in them that's not going to happen now is it

[@gegdim9307]

OpenAI is lose-lose Microsoft has access to all their tech (they are required to share everything until AGI), and they owe Microsoft lots of money (btw, the Microsoft investment was mostly in compute credits) OpenAI is looking for outside investors to get cash they desperately need, but honestly, who is going to invest in them? It basically completely belongs to Microsoft.

[@theeternalnow6506]

With the amount of power that comes with advanced AI systems, it was never going to stay non-profit unfortunately.

[@JK-nk6tl]

Saltman is the new super villian in training under Gates. Anyways, The nonprofit stopped as soon as they realized how much profit there was to be made .. they are only human after all and power corrupts.

[@theforsakeen177]

why should they stay a non profit? what other ai company is non profit?

[@willwunsche6940]

@@theforsakeen177 For the good of humanity and because the company was already a nonprofit with some of the scientists and engineers that worked dedicating large portions of their lives work to it because it is. But obviously investors will change it to make their billions of $ back faster and on top of large profit margins instead of capped profit margins. "This structure is designed to support OpenAI's mission of advancing AI in a way that benefits humanity while sustaining itself financially. OpenAI, follows a unique hybrid structure known as a "capped-profit" model. This means that while OpenAI LP (the for-profit entity) generates revenue and returns profits to investors, those profits are capped, and any excess is intended to be reinvested in the broader mission of advancing AI safely and equitably."

[@ModrunOfficial]

0:25 oh is that why youtube is unuseable for music on phone since itll just stop playing if i turn off the screen... i guess they know how to push people to other platforms for that then

[@runed0s86]

KZbin music revanced has default settings to patch out the ads and enable background music playback

[@horizont6172]

@@runed0s86only on android though

[@EvilNeuro]

Use revanced

[@noenken]

Non-interruptive ads do not exist, KZbin. You know what those ads would be? Bad. They would be bad at being ads.

[@vadnegru]

There were days of just a small banner on the bottom. It would go away after some time and you could force close it. UPD. Some of them were interesting to me and because they weren't force fed i clicked some. I was too young and broke to buy something but i registered on some games that was advertised.

[@conorfromouterspace]

Disagree, if you actively make my experience worse by showing me an ad, i'm just gonna boycott the product out of spite

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Google-KZbin trying to do a Murdoch. Pay monthly but with lots of ads.

[@NobbsAndVagene]

I'm willing to pay an extended middle finger for KZbin Premium Lite. Maybe even two.

[@joshuaedward6893]

9:00 the Batman sound effect here killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@shamasis.bhattacharya]

Same. I had to rewind thrice over to satisfy my auditory curiosity. 😊

[@RGBeanie]

Can't wait for an Oxygen atom to block my 6G signal

[@jer1776]

KZbin making a paid subscription worse than just using Brave (including Brave Mobile) is wild.

[@twentysixbit]

AGI ain't happening anytime soon. LLMs aren't even close to AGI

[@DasSchn1tzel]

Doesn't stop even all those researchers from falling for it. At the end they'll just call their latest chatbot AGI, it's not like most people understand enough to know that's horseshit.

[@ayoCC]

AGI isn't as far away as pessimists think, but not as close as optimists think. But it doesn't even take AGI to be crazy transformative to the world. I think deep mind is going to see big returns on their research sooner than openai. They've already made technologies no human can do, like protein prediction and a protein designer, and they're working on math research ai. And the inventors of neural networks have gotten a nobel prize in physics because it caused a huge amount of progress in physics research

[@MidWitPride]

"AGI" is next to meaningless term to begin with. One can move the goalposts of it "not being general enough" for as long as there is something in the universe it still can kinda suck at. Each conversation about "AGI" needs to first establish what the expectations are here. Mathematical perfection or just being as good or marginally better than an average human with most tasks? Latter being so vaguely defined that it isn't that useful either as a metric.

[@igttgit]

@@ayoCC The scientists who won the nobel prize in chemistry and physics worked 40yrs studying the problem, working with computer scientists and developing tools to solve the problem at hand. It is most appropriate that the computer scientists shared the prize this time. It is though super annoying to see it reported in every media that "ai" figured it out. Machine learning, or big data, neural networks or ai, whatever the current name is, these are simply tools. The best most useful of these "ai" tools are highly specific and work very closely with people who have real "i" AGI requires a completely different way of thinking and computer use compared to the brute force methods of openai. My theory is that in the prolonged period of low interest rates investors were desperate to dump their money into anything that looks new to get a return, those with the most eye catching claims got the cash and now we're here. Its a shame they didn't put money into something useful like fusion energy or new battery tech but those are pretty mundane when the counter-offer is to invest in a (tech) god

[@twentysixbit]

@@ayoCC yes, but AGI would also require that AI be able to cook a soufflé that tasted delicious and teach history without a hint of bias. It's going to be a long, long time until then, if ever

[@lasarith2]

Meanwhile KZbin app - adds before video - adds 30 seconds-1 minutes in, then adds every 3-5 minutes, and if you FF Add, click a chapter - Add , if you misclick and go out of the video - you’ll get adds to relaunch the video , livestream here’s adds so you miss what there saying , want to know how long adds are well too bad we removed the timer and you won’t see it unless you click the add . Also we keep changing the UI just to annoy the users .

[@bovanshi6564]

All hail Firefox, ad free KZbin and internet with uBlock origin!

[@hatchetman3662]

Yep. For now, at least.

[@youtube.user.1234]

Brave browser also seems to have ublock origin and 2 other privacy extensions preserved, built in to the browser for when the new chrome extension manifest goes live

[@curiosity_fan]

Sure scream out loud the hack to ensure it reaches google asap

[@DarthWampa_]

Yep. Even able to run Firefox, Ublock Origin, and sponsor block on my Android phone. Ad Free and background play (via pressing play on a bluetooth earbud).

[@mycosys]

@@DNS_David Using an un-updated browser for the sake of your privacy may not be the win you think it is.

[@MegaLokopo]

I just hope 6g will encourage US providers to offer speeds faster than 2g on mobile hotspots once your speed runs out.

[@P_Taters]

The price of youtube premium is definitely going up

[@WanderingExistence]

Monopoly pricing

[@idkwhatmyusernameshouldbe5345]

Man youtube has been the worst its ever been lately, showing only 20 videos on my entire home page, the last 15 of them being the same channel, and when i search 5 related videos come up and the rest have nothing to do with what i searched. We need a better youtube

[@troubleXV]

KZbin keeps pushing us to go use a modded app without ads

[@Yomotomen]

Is there one right now?

[@MisterSkullium]

@@Yomotomen Revanced

[@WhiteRaven___]

@@Yomotomen CleanTube as well.

[@CatsRobloxOther2nd]

@@Yomotomenlibretube

[@LordWaterBottle]

Dear America, Why do we let judges and politicians own stocks? Sincerely, A confused American

[@robertbernard7844]

Dear America, Can you pretty please with the cherry on top NOT make it worse for everyone else in this world first? Sincerely, A fed-up non-American

[@Blunthammer]

​@robertbernard7844 and yet, its the European WEF that is screwing us right now.

[@Phuckitall]

@@robertbernard7844 Dear Robert Bernard, What 'everyone else'? There are others besides us? That matter as much as us? With utter sincerity but no respect whatsoever, The Only One that Matters.

[@LionTheFish]

The pixel of color on his shirt was bothering me so much lol

[@YOEL_44]

Watch it at 360p

[@BigCleverName]

I have no clue why KZbin has the gall the ask what they do for Premium. The content I watch they barely support, all the stuff they outright make I avoid like the plague

[@lenOwOo]

Bullshit. . . If google want to nickel and dime me this much, I'LL JUST STRAIGHT UP STOP PAYING PREMIUM ALTOGETHER.

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

Do it then, before it's too late.

[@polandman07]

Use adblockers and ReVanced.

[@baguette4205]

why were you paying in the first place (excluding mobile)

[@housepianist]

Enjoy those ads!

[@MrRhoidRage]

@@baguette4205 ya I’m premium because most of my KZbin is on mobile, lots of music too. If they put adds on my premium sub it’s gone

[@charginginprogresss]

> KZbin adds plan with limited ads My youtube plan is already ad free. And it costs 0 too

[@kaidiemulan6061]

0:52 I could do without downloading but I use background playback to listen to the WAN show

[@hhidd]

I would give $12.01 to ad block devs every month just in protest because bro. cmon. theres no way you're making $20+ from me in ad rev every month to gate it behind that tier. ESPECIALLY if I'm already using adblock. They're just losing out on my wallet by being greedy. Like, they need to learn McDonald's didn't get as big as it is by selling $12 burgers, they did it with a dollar menu. Lower the barrier to entry and people will happily pay a couple bucks for no ads and nothing else. Same happened with Spotify, music was expensive, piracy was easy, they came in and gave a cheap alternative and made bank.

[@willwunsche6940]

Riley there's a burned in pixel on your OLED shirt

[@Shimeih]

6G already????? My country still doesn't have 5G in 90% of the places🤣🤣

[@Mr.Engine993]

My country has 5G at like two big squares in the two big cities and that's it lol. Not even the actual 20GHz 5G, rather the 5GHz 5G which is basically 4G but slightly uptuned

[@Shimeih]

@@Mr.Engine993 hahaha.... that's crazy but I'm sure we have the same 5GHz in zimbabwe🤣🤣

[@KingLarbear]

I can't get 5G in the metroplex, 4G is awful and 3G and 2G don't exist. 6G is dumb

[@charlesandrews2513]

The Monopoly Man is not "Uncle Pennybags" . His full name is "Rich Uncle Pennybags". This is common knowledge!

[@crash.override]

Common trivia at least

[@AdrianDowthwaite]

6:40 Jessica Pigaeu side-loading facts, teching me the Monopoly man is called "Rich Uncle" Pennybags or Milburn Pennybags. This is what I come here for, oh and the Quake Bytes.

[@Deufurth]

I had a handheld Monopopy electronic game where he announced himself as "Uncle Pennybags" each time you launched the game

[@TartarSauceIsNotDead]

Leave it to Google to piss on you without the courtesy to call it rain.

[@satirical_snake]

"You'll still get ads, tho....like todays sponsor!"

[@GalvinW]

We're in an AI bubble. Every company wants to pour crazy money into this stuff. When it pops, so many AI companies will go under

[@xalataf3365]

God I do hope it pops soon.

[@apricotmadness4850]

@@xalataf3365You and me both.

[@prismaticc_abyss]

the twitter block change is actually perfect

[@saint3106]

I ONLY want no ads :( I don't care about anything else. There's NO WAY KZbin is making more than $5-10/mo (which, honestly, I'd be willing to pay) through ads with me. And I consider myself to be on youtube more than the average person.

[@GamesFromSpace]

Both of those facts have long irritated me. I would pay what advertisers pay, not possibly a hundred times more.

[@NihongoWakannai]

KZbin pays like $3-5 per 1000 ad views to creators. So you'd need to be watching thousands of ads a month to go over $5. And that's the worst case, I'm pretty sure youtube takes a smaller cut than the creator so it would be even more views.

[@rslanna]

Premium lite is like using a bad adblock extension... you still see some ads but not on every video.

[@GrillerGT]

23 € for the family plan in Germany. It's pure extortion money....

[@Dragoș-MugurelNechita]

divide 23 by 5 people and you get 4.6 euros per person, dummy dum dum

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

@@Dragoș-MugurelNechita When the alternative is free adblocker with optional donation, yeah no.

[@zzzzzzz...3380]

​@@Dragoș-MugurelNechita you must be jewish

[@jogurcik13]

No one gonna cry because of german

[@OfficialDaveChannel]

don’t buy the family option if you live alone lol 🇩🇪🇩🇪

[@robeagleR]

Pirates raise up your black flag let loose the sails , Today we ride the waves.

[@Digital-_-Spirit]

3:05 the background commentary today has put a smile on my face

[@hamzasultan96]

That change in what happens when you block someone is so backwards. You block people you don't ever want to see or talk about. You don't block someone then immediately start posting about them.

[@danielsmokesmids]

elon was mad that people were blocking him and he couldnt see the negative comments about him

[@TAP555]

I like YT Premium. This just tells me they're going to inflate its price soon. That sucks ass

[@lilyyoung1002]

Agreed

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

Already did, i think Singapore or some other contry it rises by 50%

[@JapaneseAlley]

I have KZbin Premium, so why would I add ads to my already WAY better experience. 😢

[@user-pt1kj5uw3b]

I hate to say it but Anthropic needs to be the first to get to "AGI." Their CEO was one of the first to see how much of a snake Altman was, and is actually one of the scientists who developed the current tech.

[@dang7940]

Premium subscriber here! I remember accidentally subscribing to it as we were downloading music for the car, thinking the 'download' button was gonna upload an MP3 file. We retained the subscription, and to this day ads cannot interrupt us!

[@keo1a]

7:15 can never forget CARBON NANOTUUUUUBES

[@eh1843]

This video was interrupted by an ad for an audiobook for 1984. Clearly, the AI overlords are warning us.

[@calaverx11]

It's kind of hilarious how fast BlueSky took off over the past few days because of that X TOS update.

[@Blunthammer]

Probably won't last.

[@phelixochieng1136]

Riley has an "always on" pixel on his shirt 📺 1:02

[@jacksonburger2081]

Dude, NOBODY idea 5g. We're gonna start working on 6g‽‽‽

[@BajiKorvisamo]

The Ads on my KZbin pipeline are IMPATIENT! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬😡😡😡😡😡

[@jasonnugent963]

If there was a cut-scene of Riley and Jeff Geerling playing catch in a park,.. I’d laugh. GO LONG!…. LONGER!… OUCH.

[@KuruGDI]

_Spaghetti alla puttanesca_ means Spaghetti in prostitute style/make. It is made with with tomatoes, olives, capers, anchovies, garlic, peperoncino and extra virgin olive oil. A variation includes tuna.

[@genericusername5909]

Accepting enshittification will accelerate it. People who originally accepted to pay for youtube premium are to blame.

[@Phuckitall]

true-dat! And the continued acceptance of enshittification, in every aspect of life - online or off, signals consent.