You Need Farmers In Stellaris

[@regenpower_]

these AI generated videos are getting more and more convincing, no way montu would say a single of those words

[@ShiftySheriff2]

Yeah that's what gave it away for me still very impressive technology

[@royalbluegaming7763]

It's almost like EP30 liking clerks

[@robjohnson3095]

my first thought as well

[@ChristianDall-p2j]

I Think that this is just the current meta! And Montu is a meta player at his core! Next time i play, i Will double check the farmer food produktion vs miner mineral output, and the conversion rate of food to alloys vs Minerals to alloys, before fully embracing it, just to check that it hassent been nerfed! But if it hassent, catlityc prossesing, here we go! But if it has been nerfed, then i would definitly choose masteruddannelse crafters instead on a moral playthrough, wich i intend to do a lot of if i ever Got my hands on the game, or citizen service if i did a wide playthrough, where i tries to conquer the Galaxy!

[@radiobehemoth9334]

I can't believe Galactic Agri got to Montu. Shaking and crying right now.

[@gressorialNanites]

Big Pharming

[@azpont7275]

Soon he will be pushing the lies of the food pyramid and the importance of breakfast.

[@randomintrovertedspider7510]

Okay, so who's going to go rescue Montu from his current hostage situation?

[@ErlanMomonov]

Sorry, but i like those video to much. I will join to imprisoners

[@theguyfromsaturn]

@@ErlanMomonov Indeed.

[@JelaniWood]

Also, you can trade food to keep aggressive empires at bay or to slowly build up relations with empires over time. Food is vastly underrated as a diplomatic tool. Also, I love setting up long-term big time food trade deals with other empires and then canceling the trade right before you go to war and it tanks their economy

[@Mag_ladroth]

I was looking for ways to crash the market with but couldn't find any, but I guess this works too

[@MediumRareOpinions]

Delightfully devilish

[@dandominare]

You can get a stupid amount of early information/exploration by trading 1 food per month for an active sensor link with AI empires.

[@mati99ish]

@@dandominare Intel for apples

[@V20147]

migration agreement -> make them livestock -> sell them food

[@Skywalker_lives]

Who is holding you hostage Montu

[@Dead_Heir]

Do an all farmer run and we'll send the police to save you 😆

[@angiki9988]

Blink twice if there's a colossus orbiting your homeworld.

[@ecsburneraccount1705]

Catalytic processing/agrarian ideal run

[@bomlife1572]

Ep3o

[@jamesbaxter5147]

@@angiki9988*Montu’s 4 eyes blink once* I KNEW IT!!!

[@kata_zonda]

"Food is now one of the best resources in Stellaris" I never thought I would hear Montu say that

[@jamesfredericks9307]

The best part of this video is if you listen closely you can hear the gun being pointed at montus head

[@piousmuffin5285]

I move for a vote of no confidence in chancellor Montu's leadership.

[@hko2006]

I cant believe Montu saying this after all these years of food bashing

[@MontuPlays]

Hey, when the times change, evolve or die!

[@Botar48]

​@@MontuPlaysdeath it is for me then

[@rickydjamison6120]

I've started using food a lot more lately. So now I'm creating more farming worlds.

[@samuelh9599]

But farming... Really? Man of your talents?

[@TheOnlyBritishGuy]

a full shattered ring playthrough will be awesome to see how high you can scale in 3.9

[@goldenhorde6944]

Would imperial be the best authority, now that they get a capital system resource boost?

[@TheOnlyBritishGuy]

@@goldenhorde6944 good idea

[@Hawtmilk]

Yes please on a shattered ring run, it's one of my (thematically) favorite origins and I would enjoy seeing someone that doesn't suck play it

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

In the late game I always have a ring world with one of the segments producing all the food I need

[@wolfganglandau3978]

Got ringworld origin with a megacorp with Cybrex precursor 🤌🏻🤌🏻 most fun I’ve ever had on a playthrough

[@enriquegarcia7207]

A shattered ring playthrough would be amazing!

[@michaelalexander2753]

I haven’t even watched this yet and I can detect HERESY. HERESY I say!

[@domowomo2125]

*heresy

[@michaelalexander2753]

My mad ramblings have been corrected, I thank you good sir and or madam 😅

[@TheDSasterX]

​@@michaelalexander2753 Here I thought he was misspelling for dramatic effect 🤣🤣

[@urbanberndtsson]

Montu saying food is good: WHAT YEAR IS IT?!

[@MontuPlays]

The future is now!

[@duncanharrell5009]

The future is rural you silly Ecumenopolis dwellers!

[@danielgloyd4529]

Blink twice if you are ok. Next thing you know Montu is going to be calling Xeno Compatability an A tier ascension perk.

[@Delmworks]

It is though! No othe perk can so dramatically alter the frame rate of the galaxy! 😂

[@13g0man]

@@Delmworks The Collossus Project perk does.

[@JohnSmith-pv2qc]

@@Delmworksthank you for your opinion xeno-lover. Please report your planets location to the nearest colossus so that an exterminatus order may be completed

[@killerlork]

The thing is, it's genuinely a really powerful perk, especially when combined with genetic ascension, due to the bonus trait picks and points. The only thing wrong with it is that it tanks the performance.

[@dumont7478]

Or calling clerks people

[@nash6520]

With Minister of the Seas giving your Anglers unparalleled base food output, I would think Aquatics are back on the menu.

[@lolasdm6959]

Yes, enslave and turn them into cattle

[@SCHU50]

Montu: You need Farmers in Stellaris now. Me: Farmers?! This is blasphemy! This is madness! Montu: Madness? This is Stellaris! Sidenote: great content as always. Much appreciated.

[@MontuPlays]

*Fires Torpedoes*

[@josephbootle3231]

Montu has been abducted! This is not real!

[@MontuPlays]

This is ... Monty ... Everything is fine... We're fine... How are you?

[@janwimmer3408]

You're shooting out content and I love it!

[@Ianassa91]

Ino food should be reworked so that producing a montly surplus would increase pop growth speed while a monthly defecit would have a negative modifier obn pop growth and increace emigration.

[@Comicsluvr]

You know, those who proclaim their innocence the loudest are often the most guilty...

[@ixi4390]

The moment 3.9 arrived I switched from trash talking farmers to aquatic + pearl fishing + catalytic production

[@memnarch75]

And in our next Episode: "Clerks are a must have"

[@MontuPlays]

I would never! Not in patch 3.9 anyway. Patch 3.8 on the other hand... hello sailor!

[@baitposter]

Montu: has a 16 minute tutorial saying food is the worst resource Montu, a few days later: Food is the best resource

[@roymundchf8917]

I really want to see a meta shattered ringworld build! I hope that build could apply to normal bio-empires as well, not just hiveminds.

[@danielgloyd4529]

Normal empires should still be fine doing a build like that. You just have to worry about Consumer goods. I imagine rouge servitors and Hive minds will just do it slightly better though.

[@idcgaming518]

Montu really ended his vid with "would you like to know more?" Fkin hilarious.

[@lucjanl1262]

Damn, I miss the times when montu was not a "big food" sell out.

[@Deshiba]

Regular empires also have access to the Bio-Reactor now. At a base conversion of 25 food to 20 energy it is pretty efficient. You can even increase that by taking things that reduce building upkeep, like Prosperity, Cyberneticly ascending, getting a governor with the upkeep trait. It gets pretty wild if you stack it. Only downside being opportunity cost of a building slot. Upside being, it costs no pop working it.

[@syrusalder7795]

is it limited to one per planet?

[@flinfake]

@@syrusalder7795 Nope. It also takes no jobs and is affected by building upkeep reductions.

[@Deshiba]

@@flinfake Yes, and the building can be disabled if need be. The downside to this is that any job increases don't really affect this building.

[@francescogargiulo7318]

If no job required we can Place the bioreactors on the most shitty Planet we find and GG WP, Energy!

[@syrusalder7795]

@@Deshiba that is indeed a downside but it is free energy. 5 hydroponic bays, at minimum, would power two reactors for 5 energy, producing a net gain of 35 energy with zero pops being used. My math may be wonky as I'm sleep deprived right now but it seems logical to me at the moment. It only gets better as your starbase output is boosted via techs and (as someone else pointed out) you put more upkeep reduction planetside to skew the profit margins even more.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

You took the Food pill after doing that challenge

[@queenbrightwingthe3890]

Im right now doing a playthough with a Aquatic empire with Catalystic Processing and then you make a video about it. Man your spy intel must be over 100.

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

this is why my shattered ring hive mind does so well from jump the scrap mining plus catalytic gives me very effect overall output of alloy early

[@austinh1242]

Guys, I think Montu was taken hostage by the Prikkiki-Ti, we've got to help him! Absolutely no way he'd endorse farmers willingly.

[@UnknownTuber450]

I thought this was an April Fools' joke but it is not April nor the 1st of the month

[@RagerRagerRagerRager]

One potential problem that I think should be mentioned: planetary effects and events. If you get the ‘mine too deep event’ you get a massive mineral job efficiency upgrade. But I don’t know about any planetary events that up farming efficiency. Something to keep in mind.

[@jeffwagner1649]

I remember the day you could distribute food to your pops for faster pop growth. That is when food actually had value. I miss that feature.

[@davidteel7701]

This gets even nicer if you start with the Baol as your precursor. That means you can add the Baol special building to your farming worlds to cover your consumer goods needs.

[@CrimsonReaper189]

I have actually been doing this for a while now and easily keeping up with other players in mp games its so powerful. It also works pretty well of u go anglers since u can get up to 120 food per job when stacking buffs.

[@chasjetty8729]

I’m ashamed. Minerals forerver montu

[@PerfectAlibi1]

Montu finally sees the light! ^^

[@DarthMad87]

CONSORTING WITH THE FARMERS IS HERESY!

[@Konzon]

Anyone remember when food was a planet modifier?

[@Deshiba]

Magacorp, Ocean Paradise, Catalytic Recyclers, Trawling Operations. Going some form of materialist. With this set up you can swap to Alloy focus on policy and capital planet day 1, while also activating Academic privilege. All your minerals come from space and monthly trade. It's my favorite build this patch. Promising to be even better in the next one, barring nerfs.

[@EventHorizon-cs2qr]

this also impruves baol building stance (especially with arhceo-engineers perk) as it further improves farmer efficiency (and gives them additional CG output)

[@Z0nd4]

Hey, new fan here. Good content. I need more for beginners, more builds, more playthrough, slow and commented. Hope you do more videos and series! Thanks!

[@NightmareGamer4]

Catalytic processing also has a bunch of perks that make it IMO the best civic in the game. For starters, it allows you to split planet production (districts/buildings) from alloy production completely, which stops your military expansion getting in the way of your economy expansion or vies versa. Another plus is that hydroponics farms can be built on starbases and on any planet, so food is much easier to ramp up quickly without being limited by planetary features or territory like minerals. Lastly, since you pretty much never need to spend food outside the monthly budget, you can keep that food surplus fairly low without suffering any real drawbacks

[@andrewcrawford2977]

I always enjoyed the fantasy offered by the Catalytic Processing civic. Their ships must smell so fresh.

[@fighthefallen]

Info dumps life this are Sooo useful. Thank you for putting in the time.

[@Drllp]

Pacifist Xeno-compatibility food rush

[@WillStoneman1994]

Prequel memes are top tier, Montu.

[@curious2882]

"Forge Focus" turned into "Ford Focus" in my head. Can't believe the Ford Focus only produces a flat alloy bonus, I'm gonna get the Kia Colossus and deal with this.

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

How do livestock even work in Stellaris? Are the pops just kept around and fattened up only to be slowly killed to make food? How do you fatten up a lithoid or plantoid? Assuming most sentient life forms are like humans keeping sentient livestock is a bad idea. There are several key criteria that make a good livestock species, humans have none of them and it would be a good idea to assume alien life forms don’t eat everything, don’t breed like rabbits, and will run away and even outsmart you if you try and cage it.

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

Today, General Mills declared that Montu has been captured on the basis of being a cereal offender against all farmers. With Montu's defenses Crunched bv the Captain, Montu has been forced to admit he has been Chex-mated and must now upload an apology video, 'lest he be Frosted like a Flake.

[@Shadow.24772]

been looking at Organic Reprocessing every time i had a bad start( starting planets with low mining districts) but never noticed that it actually improves alloy output~

[@turroshmak2182]

@Montu Plays At timestamp 7:19 there is a building in slot #5 that looks like a dark gray hexagon, what building is that?

[@briannaherrington949]

The title and thumbnail feel like blasphemy, but I'm here for it

[@Threeve703]

The intros to your videos are always on point.

[@orinocointf2]

I've been using catalytic technicians with employee ownership and the radiotrophic trait. With a few hydroponics buildings on stations you can support your alloys without a single farmer or monthly trade, just continue to stack on clerks and traders to scale your entire economy, and use your ores for consumer goods and developing systems with.

[@robinandersson862]

So I had a thought on this... Hiveminds get +50% job count from agri segments on ringworlds, while Machine empires get +1 alloy per foundry drone (base) and +1 food per agri drone (base). Combine that with their respective variants of Catalytic Processing, which of these authority types would be best for getting the most out of their economy in terms of alloys? Thinking of doing like a ringworld rush with either of them.

[@rtristan8572]

Montu redemption arch ?

[@stevoyd]

I'm a rookie at Stellaris - only have around 100 hours in it... but I landed on this strategy as soon as I saw it. I was going to comment it on one of your videos (I even might have done, can't remember) as you mentioned food had no value. Glad you picked it out and shared the vegetative wealth!

[@Zhippy]

Please do a ring build! Curious to see exactly how you would do it!

[@BakaGrappler]

A shattered ring play through like this would be absurd and wonderful! Please do one!

[@TheDSasterX]

Tfw Montu outs your sleeper strats and they become meta for a patch cycle before people hop on the next hype train 😅😅

[@FriendlyXenophobe]

For a while now the alloy foundry nano plants has been buffed with organic reprocessing by giving you +2.5 alloys per job on normal worlds and 3.75 per job extra on ring worlds vice the normal +2 and +3 respectivly.

[@redeye4516]

FINALLY! I have an Agrarian Idyll-Feudal-Ocean Paradise empire that I love thematically, but I couldn't justify the crappy output of turning my peaceful ploughshares into weapons of forcing others to accept my peaceful ways. Now I can finally show the galaxy the benefits of pacifism, that being that my agri-ships don't appear in your orbit, considering that taking catalytic processing as my third civic was my entire game plan. 3.9 may be their time to shine.

[@Lechenech2]

you are also able to use this civic for the event chain with the alloy machine you can find, you get the option to use food instead of minerals

[@vi6ddarkking]

As someone that plays Gigastructural Engineering, I more often than I want to admit, find myself with temporary mineral shortages, as I build Nidavellir Hyperforges. This will definitely solve that problem since I can run my many Ecumunopulus entirely on Food.

[@lolasdm6959]

play as subterranian

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@lolasdm6959 No I just build more Star Lifters. The shortages comes mostly from me spamming over 20+ megastructures at once in preparation for the Aeternum and Blokkats.

[@lolasdm6959]

@@vi6ddarkking damn

[@Unbid581]

MONTU?? WHAT'S WRONG ARE YOU OKAY?

[@MontuPlays]

I have seent the light! Farmers are the way

[@jinsu9004]

I remember from old videos how you said farmers bad so when I saw this I felt compelled to watch

[@belltowersubductions5104]

I genuinely stopped for a moment so that my brain could process that this video exists and was actually, genuonely made by the real Montu "I Hate Farmland" Plays.

[@Unknown.NotRegistered]

Doesn't this buff the Oceanic origin, Aquatic and Hydrocentric? They get food production bonuses as I recall.

[@thenazzarow5789]

Yes, I'm surprised Montu mentioned Shattered Ring but not Aquatic + Agrarian Idyll with Catalytic Processing as the third civic. You have unlimited Food districts too, your Anglers produce 8 instead of 6 base food with extra 2 trade value and amenities (making them super efficient) and your consumer goods pops use less minerals and some food. Ring worlds are always nice and almost any empire can use them - if needed as a science world. The biggest problem is the habitability which can only be negated with robot pops. The only reason that I can think of is that the aquatic/agrarian/catalytic build has been around for a while, making it a "standart" build while farmers on ring worlds is something I have not heard before.

[@Halollet]

@@thenazzarow5789 Add in the Consumer Good Trade Policy. I haven't needed to build any Consumer Good buildings with that set up :)

[@carlborneke8641]

Paradox did this in response to your channel and you can’t convince me otherwise.

[@cryoshakespeare4465]

My favourite catalytic build is a void dweller machine intelligence (with the Machine Age update), since the hydroponics designation for habitats switches the habitation district jobs over from maintenance drones to farmers, and each district giving 0.5 building slots. Chuck down an advanced bio reactor, now you've got an energy recoup and exotic gas production. You churn out alloys, can build big research stations, and don't need minerals for anything other than building (and you get quite a few just from where your orbitals are built). Then go modularity and turbo produce robros. With the civics I tend to combine, I'd be hard pressed to combine it with rogue servitor, but, the starting alloy production you get with a habitat are really high, so you can forgo expansion to go for an early war, to resettle those pops as bio trophies. These lead to some pretty insane modifiers on your science habitats. That said, the strategy is a little more inconsistent, still, quite viable. Edit: Forgot to mention that you can stack the unity producing jobs on your agri habitats as well, since they will give +2% output from menial drones per evaluator after you finish modularity. It's easier to do this on agri stations since the habitation districts give you double the building slots of a mining one.

[@Trikiran]

I use this in combination with the nature civic and a mod that makes some pops generate alloys for food. Minerals and mining are entirely done through outposts and starbases.

[@szkonk]

The Forge has fallen, billions must starve...

[@V20147]

Hell yea i want to open my Galactic Burger King Megacorp (every other specie will be livestock)

[@salieri247]

Blink thrice if someone is holding you hostage Montu

[@MontuPlays]

Has no eyelids. "Am I a joke to you people?"

[@Halollet]

So does that mean combining Catalytic Processing with Anglers finally works wonders? Between Pearl Divers and Consumer Benefits Trade, you'll never need to build any Consumer Good buildings. This also uncaps all Agriculture Districts on Ocean worlds so you can spam everything out. Meaning, you don't really need minerals if you're not a hive mind; just get what you need from Space. Add in Agrarian Idyll and you're also getting building slots and more Amenities from your farmers. What do you think?

[@charlieblocher7456]

Organic Repossessing was always a good choice for Hive Minds, and it wasn't necessarily terrible for SEs, but not amazing. Hive Minds needed minerals for Research, and couldn't benefit from efficiency bonuses later on from making them into CGs before spending those for Research. That meant moving alloy costs over to food was a notable benefit.

[@mimaneneko8386]

Hes not gone mad he says, hes not lost his mind he says. And because hes said this we know hes being held at gunpoint! MONTY DOES NOT DO FOOD!

[@matthewmartin8724]

I'd love to see a Shattered Ring playthrough with Catalytic Processing. I've always thought that the idea of 'growing' your spaceships/infrastructure is cool, so it's great to see it become a viable option.

[@bryancundy8932]

I have been running a fungal aquatic build for quite a while now. Take unruly, -5% habitability, budding, aquatic, agrarian. Go hive mind with catalytic reprocessing, rush research early to play for terraforming as its necessary for ocean paradise start. Its a little slow at the beginning, build 2 mineral, rush research, push energy, transition away from food production on capital for more energy as colonies start producing food, as food surpluses build more industrial, once you get dedicated energy planets swap capital away from energy. Having the size 39 (30+3(ocean paradise)+4(orbital rings)+2(mastery of nature) capital world with 39 alloy districts plus the bonuses of hydrocentric etc etc is beyond powerful. Focus food and pop growth. Its tall early, widest I play late. Very fun.

[@andreaandolina7199]

He doesn't mention the patented "macross" cruiser build, he praises food. Next video will be a deep analysis about how aquatics are the most powerful cultures?

[@meirzamsky]

this is heresy

[@hernemithras]

The Conclave of the Void who've been using Catalytic Processing since implementation: Another Convert for the Void!

[@barstokians365]

Always loved the shattered ring origin conceptually, let's see a video on it taking its rightful place at the top. 😂

[@xazoirxazoirowsky1742]

Montu, if you're hostage to some food holding megacorp, blink two times!

[@katenordin2526]

I recently did an angler+catalytic metamorphosis run, and i was surprised by how good the numbers felt. Also did the federation origin to start with trade league. Moved my cap over to foundry mode, and the empire never needed a single artisan.

[@vineveer4358]

Something like a "feasts!" civic would be nice, to turn food into consumer goods. Imagine having a galactic nation renown for their fancy sushi.

[@lordcaedus8713]

I got an advertisement for Amazon Fresh not even a minute in He IS a lobbyist for the food market!

[@Meridian_Prime]

Maybe one day we can see some sort of megastructure that produce food like dyson sphere or matter decompressor, it would make catalytic processing even better in the late game

[@manend2]

having catalitic processors frees up the minerals as a hive mind to be spent on research drones

[@NightmareOmega66001]

Absolutely thought you went mad

[@MrErdem95]

This has always been the case. In very late game you spend your engineering tech on armor upgrades, society tech on food upgrades.

[@freddykoehlmann9931]

Playing catalytic with anglers at the moment. Took ocean paradise as my origin and the diver jobs negate the need for almost any miners.

[@erianle123547]

This is why I love Ocean Paradise, start with Agrarian Idyll and Anglers for massive amounts of food, amenities, consumer goods, and trade value, almost completely offsetting your empires need for minerals at all, and then throw on Catalytic Processing for ship production. After a certain point you end up selling off the excess food and consumer goods to the point you don't even need to produce energy. Your economy becomes untouchable and you have the mean to control or even break the economies of other empires by setting up trade deals then breaking them before sweeping in to conquer them. You don't technically need to take the Ocean Paradise origin to make this work, but it is very nice. The Hydrocentric ascension perk helps terraforming every habitable planet you find into an ocean world, and you can pretty much leave the Nutritional Plentitude policy on forever once you have the unity to spare. It's a great strategy for spreading your empire far and wide and allows for multiple ethic options depending on how you want to treat your neighbors. Haven't tried making a trade empire yet, but this would likely dominate that style of play as well.

[@DraconTorrin]

Do it! Join the dark side - we have cookies and shattered ring orgins. But in the end Montu you understood that path of food is a way to abilities many would consider unnatural. :D

[@PLScypion]

Montu I have to say that I tried that food focus Catalytic Processing strategy a moment ago and it's simply broken. Swimming in resources, fleet eclipsing half of combined galaxy, fallen empire's ass kicked for dark matter/energy technology, L-Gate conquered and almost all megastructures built before late game crisises spawning, solid 50-100 years before when I usually get to that point. Catalytic Processing is now an absolute must for every playthrough ever.

[@fluffernutter6633]

Congratulations. You've lived long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[@spacekicker4]

I honestly feel like someone at Paradox suggested this change just to spite you. But I'm here for making the numbers on my spreadsheet better.