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[@3dmutiny]

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[@ShahzDaneil]

man is putting out a single short with more value than most art school can offer in their entire course 😂 love this!

[@3dmutiny]

gamesartuniversity.com 🦹🏻Watch this space

[@XEONFX23]

The kind of shorts i love

[@3dmutiny]

I'll make more :)

[@presidentobama2561]

Went to school from 3D modeling. Never learned this. This is more useful than most hand modeling tutorials online.

[@3dmutiny]

Thanks you can check out the full videos on the channel if you like

[@user-hr8es7gx8c]

same. had a shitty lect and had to figure everything out myself. and she still dared to give my classmate tht made really good 3D models a B. (everyone else mostly got Ds or straight up failed, i got a C+ which i feel like i definitely did not deserve)

[@FriendoSammo]

This came up in my shorts so randomly and I'm not even mad.

[@3dmutiny]

Are you not from a 3d background? Join us! :D

[@cxnnxdx4575]

no idea what’s going on but i’m here for it. you’re very knowledgeable, thank you for the information!

[@3dmutiny]

You're welcome. I give out all my knowledge on the 3 free pdfs. You can get them at 3dmutiny.com

[@TheBeLuvdTRex]

Wow! Adding more detail really does make the process that much longer.

[@justlittleoldme4589]

Dont know much about 3d modelling but i like how you start with tendons going up to the wrist like a real hand

[@3dmutiny]

You'd love 3d modeling then. Give it a go!

[@justlittleoldme4589]

@@3dmutiny i dont think my rickety old laptop can handle that 😅

[@MizzBellaKitty]

I love these kinds of shorts!

[@berrysmh7793]

this is probably the most easy to understand guide ive seen before

[@drewerd15]

Thats some clean topo

[@Josh-zt9dj]

Lovely explanation very clear and concise I love how it's planning for animation and not just a modelling tutorial

[@sheldon319]

Looks super fun lemme c

[@meema844]

This is literally why I still go on KZbin lol. Thank you for the incredible free info bro. Subbed.

[@3dmutiny]

Great to here. I hope to keep providing content for you :)

[@3ddesigner2]

I'd like blender to have this feature where you extrude a face out of a middle vertex

[@judson5203]

You can though just select the vetices or edge and use extrude

[@3ddesigner2]

@@judson5203 it's different and need more steps

[@3dmutiny]

So powerful

[@joyfilledbiscuit]

Very cool advice!

[@Hecker9974]

Insane, I'd have a mental breakdown trying to do that topology. Im already struggling with cartoon faces

[@aynain1810]

Jokes on you im struggling with a plane

[@RiqMoran]

nice hulk hands

[@baylorwiseman617]

i seriously thought he was designing a new spider-man suit for the first 30 seconds

[@doze9384]

no idea what the hell i just watched but man that’s pretty cool

[@3dmutiny]

Retopolgy is awesome

[@sudanemamimikiki1527]

Quite the high poly? For what use is this modeling made for??

[@Invi-]

That's spidermans hand!

[@trepanobiopsja]

thats good

[@mcglovin1628]

Dude! This would have been so useful when I was trying to learn blender and unity! I eventually gave up - but I did make a fish inspired by subnautica. Even though it was bare bones I had 3 2D sketches to make a 3D "skeleton" of a model.

[@3dmutiny]

Sweet! You should show us in the discord! Link is on the homepage :)

[@Stand.Your.Ground.]

Wish I had a setup for this!

[@3dmutiny]

Set up?

[@bakedbunz6973]

Spidey suit

[@danielmanan6826]

I thought he was making Spider-Man’s suit

[@jarayablack3619]

Hope it goes well 👍

[@herberjoghurt3708]

Whats the Program? it aint fusion but is it Blender?

[@roguieC60]

That's maya

[@Oakbeast]

Dont matter ... Topology is universal

[@herberjoghurt3708]

@@roguieC60 thanks!

[@KoaTheDogg]

I can do that shift click part

[@grimmcreeper192]

Can you please explain and demystify face retopo?

[@Canilho]

YSK that any "face" with 4 points will not be a plane if you mess up with the position of one of them. That's a rookie mistake. and can create future issues with your mesh.

[@andrewburton8845]

I have no idea what any of this is but it’s tight

[@alangfp]

Oh wow! What program is that?

[@Riotskate2000]

3ds max i think

[@RedBlackStar1936]

@alangfp It's Maya and he's using a quad draw tool to create a topology

[@eirikjormungandrson]

Did I just take a full 3d modeling course in less than 60 seconds?

[@JordanMSeverns]

I have no idea what you're doing but how is this not an automated process?

[@timobatana6705]

I'm sure this makes sense it was smarter person. I don't really know what's happening

[@Effi3]

hand

[@Varrbariouss]

No wonder i sucked this class lmao, it wasnt me

[@MysticalEmblem]

Quick question for everyone which is harder doing this or sculpting?

[@Chair-Son]

you do this after sculpting to turn the sculpt into a more usable form

[@MysticalEmblem]

@@Chair-Son oh i see because i always thought they just put a sphere and start sculpting it into something, dang i feel dumb

[@twisted5576]

Are those polygons? It looks like a lot

[@3dmutiny]

Correct

[@laary7589]

Shouldn't there be some sort of mathematics things ti keep in mind?

[@3dmutiny]

Funnily enough I started in maths XD

[@robertflanagan6168]

Its nice not having an AI voice

[@PipeBurst]

What program is this, do ppl use it for architecture

[@3dmutiny]

This is Maya. You can use it for arch. But 3DsMax is used for that mainly.

[@obtorgecirb2100]

How is there not an auto tool for this ?

[@3dmutiny]

Because 3d is difficult to automate. We can barely automate text!

[@Eddieddg1]

Are you using a CAD software?

[@squishybluecat]

This looks like Maya to me.

[@Eddieddg1]

@@squishybluecat Never seen maya. 🤷‍♂I prefer the free open source route

[@squishybluecat]

@@Eddieddg1 Same here, Blender is my love

[@GugureSux]

It's Maya. Autodesk's tools (3DS Max and Maya) were THE industry standards with literally no competition to even joke about still not too long ago. This has actually started biting oldfarts like moi in the butt these last few years, since now all the startups are trying to move to Blender and Gimp.

[@RedBlackStar1936]

​@@GugureSuxMaya is still the industry standard for animators and nothing is even remotely competing with it at least for now.

[@LaroonDynasty]

Never triangle

[@3dmutiny]

Not for games. Triangles are used often. Infact, quads don't exist in engines. Everything gets turned into Tris.

[@shamsilareefin2567]

My autistic ass thougt it wa spiderman

[@Bass_TTV]

Just be sure to avoid making N-gons :)

[@deeplimerence]

Useful. But zwrap who?:)

[@JoaoVitorBarg]

i dont know buch about modeling and games but arent triangles better?

[@thekingscrown8931]

No, and I'm not good enough at 3d modelling to explain in-depth, but basically it keeps things clean and easy to work with when rigging/animating models or subdividing them. You can probably find a video explaining it far better than I have.

[@JoaoVitorBarg]

@@thekingscrown8931 im just wondering why everywhere i see modeling it was triangles maybe bc it bc was game not animation?

[@snorlax6104]

​@@JoaoVitorBarg triangulation is used in gaming to make the model less heavy because igames need to render models at more than 60 fps

[@GugureSux]

@@JoaoVitorBarg To put it short, polygons ARE always in triangles. Quads are just two tris. Some engines and editors deal better with either one of the two, but most can deal with re-triangulation just fine these days on their own. If you are working on a truly low-poly game assets, it is good practice to learn to think and model things with tris, always thinking about edge loops' direction. BUT like implied, as long as you avoid the Ngons, you will be OK in most situations this day and age.

[@codelyoko363]

From what I understand, working with triangles while modeling can make the process a lot more difficult. Imagine how annoying it would be to do what this guy is doing but using triangles. It's true that triangles are better for games, but modeling programs will typically convert models into triangles through something called "triangulation" when you export them, so there isn't really any need to do it yourself.

[@PrinceFlumph]

So what exactly is going on here? He’s got the very highly detailed hand model, but he’s creating custom polygons for it…?

[@3dmutiny]

The highly detailed hand model is used as a reference to create custom low-poly polygons for the game. Low poly models are used in games because they require fewer resources to render, which ensures better performance and faster load times. These models simplify complex details, making the game run smoothly on various hardware while still appearing visually appealing, thanks to techniques like texture mapping and normal mapping, which add detail without increasing polygon count.

[@00jero00]

subs ❤

[@DIABULUSKIRA]

What is the point of retopology when you already have a model?

[@staticbuilds7613]

You make it game ready or easier to animate. The model he had possibly contains anywhere from 100,000 - over 1 million polygons. Which makes it not suitable for games and most animations. You Retopologize to make thing work. Again it depends on the final platform the model is for

[@DIABULUSKIRA]

@staticbuilds7613 I wasn't thinking that way. But isn't it possible to reduce number of polygons some other way, without need to make it all over again? I have never done any human like models because i get lost in all of that. Hard surface modeling is my thing 😅

[@staticbuilds7613]

@@DIABULUSKIRA Depends on the software. I have used auto reduced before and manually deleted subdivions but it not always as accurate. For animations and motion capture rigging you want more control and perfect topology. Once you get used to it the quad-draw tool can be a quick and relaxing process.

[@DIABULUSKIRA]

@staticbuilds7613 Could be. Character modeling, rigging, animation and topology is to much conplicated than anything else. At least for me. But i have seen some artist doing great job when creating characters, but they are not that good at some other modeling that i find much easier.

[@Chair-Son]

it looks like a lot of these quads arent planes - isnt that poor practice?

[@SuperDirtyLion]

seems like a job for AI

[@3dmutiny]

Funnily enough AI or any programs are terrible at this. The technology is far far away. 3D is complex for LANGUAGE ai models.

[@Ramon314]

So why isn't all this automatable?

[@3dmutiny]

Because it's quite complex and 3d is difficult for computers

[@devonroyer2577]

Mistake one. Using maya. Learn blender. You’re welcome

[@Timoruz]

So, this is coming from a place of ignorance, but why not duplicate the hand, scale that up, and then subdivide it? Would that not be faster?

[@Nohiro.3D]

NEVER. SPLIT IN A TRIANGLE IT'S VA BASIC RULE

[@3dmutiny]

Uh? Not true. 😅

[@Atomic-toons00]

This is why i hate 3d there is no auto retopo only shit hand work

[@NefariousElasticity]

It's tedious but it's a very fundamental skill of 3D modelling. There are some auto-retopo methods, but most still require cleanup. When it's retopo time, I usually just throw on a podcast, get a big cup of espresso, and it becomes borderline meditative.

[@Atomic-toons00]

@@NefariousElasticity human know when the topology should be detailed but the auto retopo is just trash and can destroy all your hard work