❌ You SHOULD NOT Become a Psychologist | 10 reasons WHY

If you're wondering whether not you should become a psychologist here's my 10 reasons why you SHOULD NOT!
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[@LeoKunYT]

well shit ... I am already halfway through my undergrad 😭💀

[@eddiew2325]

Plan B you could always find a sugar daddy. Am I right or wrong

[@sibongiseninyawo9384]

😭I'm in my final year and I can feel you! 😪

[@payalive]

1. money 2. competition 3. if you're unwell 4. busy schedule 5. isolation 6. having to study your whole life 7. if you hate people 8. sedentary 9. too much organization 10. if you're too sensitive

[@suhenamurmu8000]

It is The most realistic video I have ever seen. I will definitely recommend your video to them who are doubting whether or not pursuing psychology. Maybe it's my first comment on your video, but I really want to say I really get inspired whenever I am listening to you . I am doing my 3rd year undergrad in psychology, and till now you're one of those who inspires me the most. 💖

[@thepsychdiaries]

This means so much thank you 🙏

[@samuelsquires423]

Are you going to do your masters afterwards?

[@MisterAWasTaken]

I agree with heaps of your points. One thing I want to clarify though is that there are plenty of us in private practice working salaried positions (and paid well above the public system). Even though overall I have a cap on my earnings, all the risk is on the clinic. If I don't see clients, that's on them. Not all private practice work is contract.

[@thepsychdiaries]

Thank you for commenting! That's so helpful to know- honestly I would much rather be reimbursed like that 😅

[@jacintarobison4352]

I was going to say the same thing. I am a salaried employee in private practice (first-year psych, whoo). I also get bonuses and a PD budget every year! Definitely perks around, although I recognise I am privileged, and these a probably harder to come by.

[@julie-annhenry5664]

Are you in Auz as well?

[@myvisualdiares]

Working as a mental health clinician here in nyc in the emergency field, and these are so reliable!!

[@SquirmyWormy7-14]

thank you so much for making this video. you did a good job of addressing the struggles in a way that's not just bringing people down and telling them to pack up and abandon all hope. I wanted to make sure I know what I'm getting myself into, and all the other videos I saw kind of brought me down. however, I realized they seemed to be just based on the person's personal experience and they were saying stuff that didn't really apply to me, so I'm glad I found this one. I feel much more prepared and inspired, I think this is something I can really do.

[@dayankkumarasinghe]

And yet, here you are creating one of the best KZbin content related to counselling while going through that busy schedule. Amazing!

[@vivianesun9935]

Thank you so much for this video!

[@aminakazzaz8048]

It is a very realistic video and thank you for that. I am in my 3rd year of undergraduate. and I really hope I will be a very good psychologist one day 😊😉

[@reyhan963]

It was a really really helpful video, Thank you so much

[@lixia_blur]

I watched this video because im in highschool and I'm thinking of pursuing psychology and I want to make sure that I know what I'm getting myself into and I think this video confirmed that psychology is right for me. The only thing I'm worried about is getting into masters 😅

[@lurlinerigney3005]

Omg thanks sooo much ..I have never been told about the facts once graduated..you still gotta keep up to date but the fact you won't be re registered if can't afford the consciousness courses to stay updated its definitely huuuuge decision..I was also wondering if yiu could meet your clients in a Cafe setting or outdoors but ..for obvious reasons a quite safe and discreet place where you feel more open ..rather than in a small room and I think ..you are amazing for helping others too .....yes I've also realised in past year I needs a treadmills or something to make sure I'm moving atleast 20 kins a day on its as I'm feeling like I'm lazy but the study has affected my eating and lifestyle so I totally agree with you ..and we needs to remember we gotta take care of ourselves before we can take care of others and find the right setting #Environments #lifestyles #truth telling #Future Boss lady #passion vs money #knowing when to shut off #Inspiring 💯🙌👍🤞✌️

[@thepsychdiaries]

Keep in mind by that time you're working so you'll be able to afford the training courses :) and if you're really stuck there are cheaper trainings- just the area I'm learning right now is quite specialized so a bit more expensive!

[@drewbubbin]

Thank you for posting this 'coz i have been battling in my head if i should go for it or not, studying Graduate Diploma of Psychology online. Thank you for being so honest about your journey and helping people like us weigh things if it is for us or not.

[@cairosilver2932]

IMO have a plan for what you do if you can't get into masters - do you do some other kind of masters (speech pathology, for example). If at that point you'd think of working until a masters application succeeds, keep in mind that a cert III in individual support probably gets you more work than a bachelor degree in psych (plenty of work asks for the cert III). Work in support, gather experience working with people that you can cite in future masters applications. But basically have a plan B and know that the psych pathway is a bit all or nothing and the bachelor degree in psych wont leverage into work all that much, get a cert III of some kind.

[@T.P-pf7sp]

love this video :) I was wondering if you were able to discuss the differences between working in public health vs private in Sydney. there seems to be a few differences based on your videos

[@eks2024]

Best video ever!

[@user-jd3tv6cn1o]

Thank you for your amazing content. I had been thinking about becoming a psychologist, but after watching lots of videos, decided not to persue this path. But I still love your content and you seem such a kind person ❤️

[@lurlinerigney3005]

Do what ever makes you happy and you have your rewarding moments and not so rewarding moments in every job ..all the best wth future goals too 💯✌️

[@dorothyonyango6575]

​@@lurlinerigney3005you are very right. Every job has its own occupational hazard.

[@AceHBK972]

Great video and totally agree. I’m a 3rd year psych PhD student in U.S. looking at working in other countries when I’m done.

[@Tom.j151]

Hi friend, Iam from india iam planning to study psychology field in us..is it good to study there or better to study in any other countries? If yes which country is good for this field. Can you please respond so that It will be very helpful

[@seemashrestha5211]

​@@Tom.j151yeah it would be so helpful

[@santiagograndas3414]

Clinical Psychology or Experimental?

[@mws12345]

I would say the most important reason you can pull this off is that you are an INFJ and because your cognitive functions are ordered in a way that enables you to connect with people in one on one or small group settings and to really recognize patterns to help them, obviously combined with your study/research in school. Basically if you were an ESTJ for example I would say it's way less likely this would be the job for you. Competitive and low pay has more to do with the economy and other stupid games we all must play and I think there are plenty of people who could go to less prestigious schools or come into the game late and outperform others who at least on paper appear to be better. Anyway I think it's good we have you, I don't think there will be any problem with you continuing to learn your dominant function literally craves it, and I'm sure you will find ways to help your patients that are creative and provide results.

[@itdun]

Do you think an INTJ can pull this off? I am an INTJ and I am really passionate about becoming a psychologist. I understand people's emotions and never make them feel invalidated about the way they feel. I am also very good at noticing underlying patterns and connecting dots. So what do you think Is INTJ suitable for this job?

[@mws12345]

@@itdun First I would say as an INTJ regardless of what I say (lets assume I say no or I dissuade you), that you should most definitely forget my opinion and drive forward to your goals and what you believe is the correct path for you. Which in all honestly being an INTJ should be no problem for you to get what I mean lol. Yes I think INTJ is extremely suitable for this job. The intuition is no doubt extremely strong, this combined with your Fi.. The Ni/Fi internal world very much helps you to understand feelings. Granted these are your feelings and it's not the same as Fe/Ti, but yes in some ways depending on the field and the individual INTJ they may perform much better than the INFJ. Also when you said becoming a psychologist that can mean so many things. I would argue that some " job titles " for psychologist might be EXTREMELY more suited to INTJ's or even specific subtypes of INTJ's that are natural fits, sorry that it's hard to explain what I mean by that. If you mean specifically clinical psychology as in being a therapist like the girl in this video, then yes I do think you can do it. The fact that Fe is your sleeper function though... I mention this function specifically because I do think that your access to Ti will also be high enough at some point, because I do think your Ni - Ti will be important even as an INTJ because you can't always Ni-Te-Fi your way through it like you can with some things, but what I mean here is combinations of your Ni-Fi-Ti-Ne and even Te to some degree to want to provide results for your patient, in some cases you might even connect more with a patient and your solutions along with what you learned say getting a PsyD or PhD in philosophy of psychology or whatever, basically with some patients you might even be a better fit, that your rational insight into the situation and understanding your own feelings and how you would solve the problem can be transferred to them. However situations which require heavy Fe use from you, or Heavy Fe/Ti in combination I don't know I'm just saying it's subjective. If you are talking like research psychologist I think in some ways you could be miles ahead I don't know my opinion doesn't matter. I do think that INFJ's are natures psychologist. I mean there are ISFJ psychologists that through years of experience and learning... like they don't lead with Ni but they know man... they really really know they get it they figured it out. Through school and mentors and working with patients these ISFJ's they know it they really are the wise old owl who got it... So my reply to you is yes I think you can succeed in psychology including clinical psychology and my advice would be to seek out INTJ's who currently are clinical psychologists, and also to make friends with INFJ's who are clinical psychologists and just make all sorts of connections and maybe try to do some small practice that allows you channel into your fe abit and grow in that but without overdoing it and being comfortable with returning to your natural state. You don't have to dive into Fe and stay in the pool all day while getting sunburnt and having your skin get all wrinkly and prune like. Just take dives in the pool slowly over time get some laps in, put some sun screen on you know and then return to the natural state of self. Yes I most definitely think you can do whatever you put your mind to. I'm sorry to say this but I still think ESTJ is the least likely type to be a good psychologist to any ESTJ psychologists out there feel free to disagree with me especially as you have the masters or doctors or whatever and are currently practicing still it's gotta be like statistically the least likely type to be doing this as their life work or interest...

[@mariaalthea7541]

Thank you so much :>

[@larasunshine1353]

Hi, great video! Thank you for that :) What are your thoughts on the professional psychology Master program? Is that one easier to get into and what are the job outlooks? Also what salary range do you have as a registered psychologist and clinical psychologist that is not in private practice?

[@mysilk]

Thank you, I think I was idealising working as a therapist. I realised that it’s not for me, first of all I get easily overwhelmed by people’s emotions and I am not that into studying and doing reports.

[@theunrulyjoyclub]

I'm American so it's interesting to learn about the field in other countries!

[@KoladeSofia]

I Have been battling with myself if i should go for psychology,but many of my friends and family members told me that it doesn't worth it.i really love the course because i think is cool 😎 and i get to help people and know what going on in the brain

[@demonicaadi594]

Us movement 😂

[@myaperrim7271]

Hi, this is an amazing video, I just have a few questions. I was wondering if you have any tips for people who are a bit younger whether it has to do with studying or if I should start volunteering, thing maybe you wished you might have started earlier. As a year 10 student who has interested in psychology for 4-5 years now, I have always been a little stressed hearing about how competitive psychology is because at the moment I have tunnel vision towards it as a career choice so if you have any advice that would be great. And if could please talk about the process of doing your course in years 11-12 and how applying to different universities and degrees worked for you. Also, if you're willing to share how you dealt with the competitiveness and pressure of honour and master's I would love to hear about that. And maybe talk about what should you do if you don't get accepted into those programs straight away what are something that you can do in the meantime without doing an honours year that can maybe better your chances of getting accepted next time. Sorry for all the questions. This is my first time commenting I just want to say how helpful your videos are and how they make me so much more passionate about psychology. (a little more stressed too, but just as much as I am excited)

[@thepsychdiaries]

Hello! No worries at all- I would recommend my psychology study tips video and also the one about how I got into masters which go much more into detail on the questions you mentioned before. Best of luck!

[@Miranda.19]

Hello! I did a college program for social service worker diploma, now I am in my first year BA for psychology or mental health studies specialist. I am now seeing how hard it truly is to

[@necromancersorcerer2196]

1. Wouldn’t there be cancellation fee to cover that hour? 2. The MPP can be an option, which is not as competitive as clinical masters, 3. Agree on this, 4. You can manage workload as much or as little in PP, or you can work in policy or administration in healthcare setting, there are different ways to psych 5. - 6. as with other professions, PD’s are crucial, 7. there are different ways to psych, though you can’t get away from dealing with people while training, 8. Sedentary seems a bit much, ‘desk job’-like may be more apt but it’s ethical obligation to take care of self like dance outside work, 9. In therapy intensive setting, and there’s other way to psych like doing training as part of PP or do consultancy etc, 10. Maybe do more assessment or other role. My two cents

[@saramemon1956]

Hi, Thank you for sharing your personalised view on this! I have a question though: What do you think about occupational psychologist?

[@thepsychdiaries]

I worked with some OTs when I did child psych and it seems like a lovely occupation! Super hands on and practical and they work within the mental health sphere too. Whenever a child was too dysregulated and needing some more practical/ body-based strategies we always recommended OT :)

[@Bugy34]

Dear Ro thank you for your videos! what do you do now ? regards

[@odielicious]

Been between teaching and Psychology and trying to figure out what I like more. Ive realized that when I do teaching related things I tend to enjoy/savor the moments where I am helping or supporting the students that I am around so this definitely makes me feel more confident in my choice of changing to Psychology

[@Kiara22222]

I am so confused what I should do, I love researching and learning about psychology. But I don't believe helping people would be the best fit for me but I like the idea

[@odielicious]

@@Kiara22222 i have a joy for both teaching and psychology, and frequently work in spaces with children so a lot of my research has been on careers that focus on these skills that i genuinely enjoy learning about dont let psychology be your only limit. if you want a job simply to be able to do what you love then really put some time and effort into researching various possibilities and not just one single path.

[@Lolrocket]

I’ve always been conflicted on whether I should really continue pursuing psychology as a career. I already have a Bachelor of Psychological Science at UNSW, but I didn’t get enough to go into honours. Now I’m doing the Graduate Diploma to boost my marks and so far I’ve managed to maintain a distinction throughout my courses. Even if I do somehow make it into honours, I’m not the smartest kid out there. Realistically speaking with the stats you just provided, the intake is so low to get into the master programs that I honestly feel I’m just wasting my money and time in pursuing a potential career I might not get satisfaction in. Counter argument to this is Ive already forked in so much money and time I might as well continue 😅

[@thepsychdiaries]

Always great to hear from another Aussie :) bear in mind this is UNSW/ UYSD stats, if you spread your net wider (which I definitely recommend) there's also UTS, UWS and all the out of state ones! But yea masters is inherently competitive- best of luck 🤞

[@samuelsquires423]

If you really want it you should go for it! What makes you say you're not the smartest or have to be the smartest? Have you had much work experience in related fields? I'm studying now finally in my 40th year. I spent a good number of years as a patient, but I'm through most of this now. I have felt like the least intelligent person on earth. But this has changed dramatically by thinking big for the first time, instead of fretting about what I didn't think I could manage (everything). From being totally aimless and desperate for decades I have suddenly gained structure and can see the future. What I could never dream of has become a set of practical steps. I don't learn quickly, but I've noticed that in aiming to understand what I'm studying I think I learn well. I overdo it, google and read up on minute details, and in the end it sticks. For me just wanting something was a bit of a revelation. I stopped focusing on this impossible mountain in front of me, made entirely of endless daunting tasks and obscure information which could never fit in my head. I just focussed on what I wanted to do, and it has become a constant source of satisfaction. It feels natural. Please don't underestimate yourself! I'm sure you'll be fantastic at what you choose to pursue.

[@LawlessRaafay]

Im about to start my Grad dip in psychology and my final destination would be either clinical psychology or Psychiatrist

[@anureetkhandpur7654]

Hey Ro, I hope you're doing well! I've been following your KZbin channel and really appreciate the insights and experiences you share about studying psychology in Australia. I'm currently a 19 year old female from India, pursuing a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology Honours. I'm considering pursuing a master's degree in psychology with a specialization in either clinical or professional from Australia. However, I've come across some concerns and uncertainties regarding the process. After conducting research, I've learned that I would need to complete an additional one-year diploma in psychology before pursuing my master's as I have a 3 year Bachelors program in my country. As you have mentioned that admission into master's programs in clinical psychology in Australia can be competitive for international students like myself, which has left me feeling a bit anxious about my decision. As I'm currently in my first year of studies, I'm reaching out to seek guidance on how I can improve my chances of being accepted into these programs. What steps can I take during my undergraduate studies to strengthen my application and stand out as an international student? Your insights would be incredibly valuable to me as I navigate this journey. Thank you in advance for any advice you can provide!

[@thepsychdiaries]

Hello! Well firstly it's great you're thinking long term and also realistically about the competiveness of the program. Right now Australia is going through quite a stage of change as it phased out a previously very popular 4+2 pathway and so there's a real bottleneck for psychologist training. Masters entry is a combination of high marks (especially weighting the honours year) + experience (especially anything clinical- which means anything working with people who have difficulties with mental health) so really try and aim to make those two things solid. I would really encourage you also think about alternatives as many people don't make their first year of trying- whether you'd plan to try again or other alternative pathways, a psychology degree also means you are open to research jobs or tutoring or working in corporate roles. Best of luck!

[@holypriyadarshinee]

My question is not keepin money as main focus but but do u get decent amount of salary to sustain yourself and your family? Thanks for the video btw

[@Rascal8372]

American PhD clinical psychologist of nearly 20 years here. Good video! I dissuade most from a career in psychology. Lots of ways to help people in your spare time or through other fields. The money for the years of training is abysmal. Do not take student loans to pursue this degree, especially psyd. You will never catch up unless you have family money or a partner to help. Psychology is fascinating. Take the classes but don’t major in it. Find another career!

[@eyebutterfly]

Hi Ro! I’m doing the 5+1 internship in the public sector and I’m really enjoying it. However, I’m a socially anxious person due to past experiences where people have made comments based on assumptions (related to being a female wearing religious attire in public- the hijab) that I’m dumb, can’t speak English, I’m oppressed, come from a backward culture and/or am a danger to society. I constantly have this narrative running through my head and I either feel like I need to prove/explain myself or feel defeated by believing people think I’m incompetent. Multidisciplinary meetings are a nightmare for me and I sometimes struggle with colleague interactions. I have my own psychologist and we’ve recognised my core beliefs of defectiveness and social exclusion but I’m still struggling. Any advice would be appreciated.

[@thepsychdiaries]

I am so so sorry to hear you've had to face this level of discrimination :( I can understand why your personal narrative has shifted after this repeated exposure to judgement. I want to note that it is a lot of pressure to put all the onus on you to be the one making all the change even though its systemic problem and I really respect all the hard work you've done to at least change the things you have control over. All I can think to offer is to know with so much external stress that you build up as many cup-filling supports you can- either your religious community or family or close friends and then also get repeated supervision and support to buffer you up. And if at all possible to shift the environment that you're in and to find a tribe that does not judge a book by it's cover. All the best you I really hope things improve and hang in there!! ♥️

[@eyebutterfly]

@@thepsychdiaries Thank you for getting back to me Ro! Your channel has taught me so much 🙂❤️ Yes I’ve had so many encounters with islamophobia that it started to destroy my life (on top of this I have a history of childhood trauma) and although I did my best to overcome my anxieties I still felt like it was too much to tackle on my own so I teamed up with my psychologist, who’s the same faith as me, and she’s been very validating and helpful. But I’m still struggling especially with the social anxiety when I’m around other colleagues. I plan on telling my principal supervisor about my experiences with racism so she can have an understanding of my situation, I’ve been cautious to say anything to her out of fear that I’ll lose my job….but I think there needs to be context for what’s happening with me especially if she notices me getting anxious. That it’s because I’m anxious that I’m being judged based on stereotypes/misconceptions my religion. I agree with filling my cup and working with my own tribe. So I plan on finishing my internship in the public sector and then go in to private practice working with my own community. With my social anxiety at present, are there any techniques you feel are the most effective that I can use to manage the symptoms?

[@thepsychdiaries]

Yes! Have a chat about exposure therapy with your psych :) such a helpful skill that really helped me with my own social anxiety. Sending you all my best wishes!!

[@jillianhely7090]

Reason 11: sometimes it’s scary and we have a risk of being traumatised ourselves! as psychologists we are often responsible for monitoring risks of suicide, child protection issues, self harm, starvation, and abuse. All whilst continuing to competently complete all of the other aspects listed in this video.

[@CallmeFaith-gb4kl]

Hello Doctor. I enjoyed your video. What if I'm not a very sensitive person. Would I still make a good psychologist. Not that I don't understand the depth of the situation and the emotional turmoil the person is going through but that I can't easily cry. More stoic-like. Would I still make a good clinical psychologist?

[@AuroraDream_sky]

hey, this video was so good. Thankyou, as a 15 year old who reallyy hari kripa wanna become a psychologist this video was so good, and it is so helpful for me. Also it would be great for you to make a video on why we SHOULD become a psychologist. And i had a question, it would mean alot if you could answer. I am currently doing my igcse and my subjects have english ( as a first language ) and biology and i DO NOT have maths. as i am terrible at it. I do not plan on taking it in AS and A levels as well. So I just wanted to know if it will be ok for me to study psychology without maths, i do realise that there is statistics, i do know the basics and when that part comes to me in BA ( maths ) I could just learn it little bit then right? Just hoping it wouldnt be a big barrier in my BA and going to universoty. Thankyou again, looking forward to your reply. love your vids.

[@thepsychdiaries]

Hello! Hmm I'm not sure the exact entry requirements as each university is different (hop on the course you want to get into and it should say on the website the pre-requisite subjects). However the high school maths I was doing was not too relevant (things like shapes and algebra). In Australia you can do maths bridging courses and many people also get a statistics tutor if they're struggling, but I have to say statistics is a huge part of undergrad!!

[@cairosilver2932]

At federation uni, the psych bachelor degree and honors year did a lot of math. From memory it didn't come into the exams or course work a lot in the bachelors degree, so you might be able to sort of wing it. But in the honours year, having to write up tables of your results from your thesis, you'll either need to know it or have a good supervisor and you work well with each other for them to guide you through with draft feedback (I think a few people were like that in fourth year. I was around the middle on math). I've no idea about masters, but I think honors year is the worst of it from what I hear.

[@AuroraDream_sky]

@@thepsychdiaries Thanks! that definatelu helps!

[@AuroraDream_sky]

@@cairosilver2932 Thankyou so much!

[@marjorie4381]

hi Ro! i don't usually leave a comment but i'm really interested on your thoughts about start studying psychology at age 27, 28, would you recomend it? i finished my business engineer career but it was never my choice and i feel stuck since i finished

[@davidcesar2044]

What r the benefits of incorporating postmodern philosophy in clinical psychiatry/psychologist practice

[@Al.531]

Great video! Did you have work experience during honours and undergrad that helped you get into masters?

[@thepsychdiaries]

Yes! I have a video on my channel about how to get into masters :))

[@yasarafernando-xi6ci]

Hi I will be really helpful to know because here in Italy there are 3 year degree programs. So can I apply for a masters in Australia

[@nativestrong7253]

Average pay is $60K

[@shea5542]

Hello, what jobs can you get with a Masters in Psychology? Can you practice psychology as a job? How does it work and what can you do? Are you a psychologist at that point? Thank you so much

[@ila9063]

the isolation aspect really selling the career to me ngl 😅😅

[@cairosilver2932]

Yes, competition and getting into masters - if you've an interest in psychology because you've had your own struggles and that comes with not having done a lot of extracurricular work (volunteering, doing work in the area of support), I'm pretty sure people who haven't had those struggles are going to be ahead in the queue. So less than a 2.5% chance. I'd think it'd be interesting to test if this leads to a monoculture in the people who do get to do the masters, as they are expected to have much the same attributes. And whether that serves the community of much more diverse cultural backgrounds. And the main thing is...they don't tell you those odds when you sign up for the degree. I think the best I got was being told 'there's a bit of an interview' before you continue on to masters. No mention of a 2.5% base chance. At this point I think I may have gone into programming instead if I had been told in advance, given psychology is mostly an all or nothing pathway. Also, not sure it's entirely ethical to not advertise that low acceptance chance. If you bought a pizza and then found you only get the other half of the pizza 2.5% of the time, I'm pretty sure the ACCC would say 'No, that's not a fair practice, that's misleading'. Would say though that if I could get that far, the money would be a step up...depends on your background, for some people they'll come from a place that it'll be a step up. But on average will they have been able to do the extracurriculars to have even a 2.5% chance? Again, it falls into the potential monoculture issue, where what some people take for granted as part of life are a near unknown for others. If psychology is only for some people, will they really get the perspective of the other people?

[@melissapiontek3886]

I had never heard masters placements were so limited. Universities everywhere are happy to make money off people with no real value in the end..

[@shea5542]

Super valid

[@ZiniaJubil]

Curious about how you feel about the overall work life balance? Do you get to take a reasonable time to rest during the year?

[@thepsychdiaries]

That's a pro! Wasn't great when I first graduated and tried to match the 9-5 corporate work week but I've realized now I can really only do two consecutive days of practice and I often scheduled myself to start at 10am so I'm feeling really content right now :)

[@datadoesdorian]

Thank you for the video but please name the timestamps It doesn't make much sense to have them there if they don't have names

[@NandanaShaji-gh7pc]

As an infj, i think the negatives are not that negative to become a clinical psychologist

[@thecrescentanditsstarstherapy]

I’m currently a masters level therapist in training, pursuing a PhD in clinical psychology in september, and the hourly pay where I am at for a starting masters therapist is 150$/hr as a student and 180$/ hr graduated, but for a phd it’s 200$/hr as a student and 250$/hr once graduated, it’s a huge difference and PhD’s can actually conduct more thorough testing and to diagnose, you have to have a PhD where I am at (although we learn to diagnose and all about the DSM and psychopathology in my 3 year clinical masters, on top of my 4 year psychology bachelors), and I agree with needing a PhD to diagnose and provide treatments other than psychotherapy, 7 years is not enough to be able to do that, a PhD in clinical psychology is 7 years long (4 years PhD in Psychology and 3 year post doctorate in Clinical Psychology) for a total of 14 years of being in school for psychology. this makes more competent psychologists.

[@thepsychdiaries]

Woah that's amazing, which country is this? In Australia a PhD is a higher level research pathway and people can't do any therapy practice or see clients with just that but I think a few people have mentioned it's different around the world!

[@thecrescentanditsstarstherapy]

@@thepsychdiaries its the same for canada, people with only a psychology phd can’t practice, you’d have to have a clinical psychology post doctorate, most people opt in for masters route, but although we all learn how to diagnose in the masters, many provinces don’t allow masters level therapists to diagnose in canada, except for Alberta

[@areebanemat6974]

This is my first comment on your vid but I would really like to know if just a bachelor's degree in psychology is better or you need to have an honours degree too? Thanks for this amazing vid btw

[@thepsychdiaries]

Depends on your eventual aim! But in Australia honours sets you up much better as the foundation to become a psychologist and to do psychology research.

[@areebanemat6974]

@@thepsychdiaries but what are the pros and cons of an honours degree in clinical psychology since it is my eventual aim

[@thepsychdiaries]

@@areebanemat6974 In clinical psychology, honours is a pre-requisite, so you can't apply for a masters program until you've done it!

[@areebanemat6974]

@@thepsychdiaries ohh ty💞

[@BusolaBeckley]

I think that the first basic reason to study psychology and to be interested in it to practice, is to meet the needs of some specific people in need of psychological enhancement. All these points are included, but if I focus on that, I would give up on a major aspect of impacting greatness into humanity. God help us.

[@rosemarymartinez6709]

As far as money goes, this applies to individuals who just got their masters in psychology, but not for the doctorates level.

[@thepsychdiaries]

Oh interesting, it would so helpful to get a bit more info if you're open to sharing :) unfortunately where I've worked those who have a PhD or just masters get paid the same so it must be different!

[@matthewgrady7111]

Would you mind explaining the difference financially between clinical masters and a clinical doctorate? :)

[@ila9063]

in Australia it makes no difference

[@rosemarymartinez6709]

Well, for one, someone who’s gets a masters in psychology is considered a therapist, not a psychologist. A PhD or PsyD in psychology is a psychologist. And there is a big difference in pay between the two degrees.

[@rosemarymartinez6709]

@@ila9063 okay. I guess that’s where this differs. I’m in the US.

[@fbn.1]

ah, yes this get me lost a little

[@joelwilliams3115]

None of these reasons really put me off starting my degree, so that’s a good sign! I do wonder if I’ll like the actual providing therapy part since I am fairly introverted and a lot of socialising and talking to people drains my energy. Only when it’s of a superficial nature though, so hopefully this won’t happen as deep conversation on interesting topics energises me.

[@thepsychdiaries]

💯 I think they're two very different skills! I admit being absolutely terrible at small talk. I think most psychs are introverts and thankfully clients do most of the talking haha

[@joelwilliams3115]

@@thepsychdiaries yes my psychologist is an introvert too, it’s encouraging to know it’s quite common

[@aprilm1866]

Excellent video!!! Sounds like USA is way more school 😫 associates, bachelors, the. PhD (masters included) or you can't be licensed to practice

[@thepsychdiaries]

Omg I can't imagine even more school 😅

[@TheChallenger1000]

You don't need an Associate degree in the United States. People here usually only get them because it's the quickest route to having a college degree (2 years), or because they went to a community college. Here, you can get a Bachelor's and a Master's and get licensed as a professional counselor, mental health counselor, or licensed clinical social worker and do much of the counseling tasks a Psychologist does. In fact, in about 3 or 4 states, you can actually legally be granted a license as a Psychologist with just a Master's degree.

[@karinasilva9729]

I want to work as a Counseling do I still need to study 5 years?

[@islamsabina7165]

Hi Ro, I have a question. Till upto what age a person can work as a clinical psychologist OR phychologist in his/her career. Is there any age limit?

[@thepsychdiaries]

I don't think so! As long as you can still do the job there is no upper age limit!

[@islamsabina7165]

Thank you for your response.

[@Cece-cares]

Do you have a Masters or Psy.d? I’m currently pursuing my Masters in Psychology. I thought you could only have private practice with a Psy.d ?

[@thepsychdiaries]

I hold a masters of clin psych, however I'm in Australia! And I know around the world different qualifications are needed :)

[@majieluvo5549]

Do these aspects also apply to registered psychologists?

[@thepsychdiaries]

Not the ones relating to masters entry, but many registered psychologists also work in private practices and so a lot of these do apply! Keeping in mind however every workplace is different and I'm just speaking to my experience :)

[@filipnede1954]

What are other ways that you can help people with mental health?

[@thepsychdiaries]

I have a video on other careers :)

[@ParampreetBhandohal-vv3kh]

The first person to comment #mentalhealthmatters

[@thepsychdiaries]

woohoooo 🎉

[@ParampreetBhandohal-vv3kh]

@@thepsychdiaries Thanks, sister for inspiring me with my dream to be a clinical psychologist to help people cope with their mental health issues + to break the chains (misconception) that society has about the domain of psychologist and psychiatrist.

[@user-vx1xd4ex9d]

I'm not entirely sure i want to become a psychologist (I've been saying for years i wanna be a clinical psych working with kids) bu I have NO IDEA what i'd do otherwise. I'm not really intrested in anything else.... That competitiveness does scare me.... But you really need your masters to do anything in psych dont you...

[@thepsychdiaries]

I would 100% recommend going and doing a few casual career meetings with psychs in your local area if you're in this position- reach out to them via email/ LinkedIn and tell them your position and ask if they'd be open to a little chat about their experience (I found it so helpful when I did it!). And no definitely not!! Many people are general psychs and they do not have to go through the masters bottleneck :)

[@cairosilver2932]

@@thepsychdiaries From my experience the general psyches go through a bottleneck as well - there were IIRC 16 general positions and 16 clinical positions per year (this was at Federation uni). Maybe the now retired 4+2 pathway did this differently, it seems like bottleneck for all otherwise?

[@Icyfey]

I just finished a test that made me almost cry as I am in my second year. Is this Perhaps a sign to drop out before it’s too late?😔

[@thepsychdiaries]

Oh man :( studying can be so rough, sending hugs. However one test is one test and everyone no matter how intelligent they are will have tests that just make them feel lost so give it a bit more time to evaluate!

[@cairosilver2932]

This might not apply to what you're talking about, but if you have some self worth wounds (which is maybe why you went into psych as you've been doing your own self repairs), there are going to be tests and times that really press on those wounds. I'd say it depends if it presses it to an extreme then that's a problem, but if it presses and you're able to cry then you're probably able to start providing care to that part of yourself and it's a bit of a rough self care learning process as you learn where your hurt parts are when the course presses on them. Again, this might not apply to your case, just saying in case you find it useful.

[@Icyfey]

@@thepsychdiaries oh Ty! I’m not dropping out, I promise. I’m going to see it through so I can achieve my dreams :D

[@Icyfey]

@@cairosilver2932 oh, Thank you! Taking Cognitive Psy as an elective this semester and so far, the assignments all require a lot of introspection. It’s a little tough but I lowkey enjoy the process :)

[@Letstalk-zx7jx]

With private practice, you can make unlimited potential

[@Tourist5929]

how many of us are here because we take online classes. very encouraging

[@emilycorkill7931]

You don't get paid sick leave when you work for a psychology practice? Even in a permanent position?

[@thepsychdiaries]

This is as a contractor! Some psychologists who work under a salary model should have sick leave but I've personally never had sick leave.

[@GabrielJabatgab]

want to pursue psychology for real, but thinking of how to become rich as well 😭

[@angelinehernandez4838]

I’m 26 and I feel like I’m late to the game now.

[@haylesnyc87]

I'm considering it now at 36, you have plenty of time, I'm looking at masters in the UK and habe been told I'll be the youngest on the programme and I shouldn't worry about age so you most certainly don't need to be concerned. If you love it do it now before more time passes!

[@crueltyfreecolorist1025]

My former dr said the psychologist’s he knew of needed therapy themselves. Not a job id want

[@thepsychdiaries]

I've been to therapy! I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to experience it on the other side of the chair. It really does depend on the specialisation, I'm sure those who work in very acute trauma settings are more likely to need more support themselves but in a fairly general private practive I think just keeping good work/life balance in mind is enough :)

[@Patrick-fg7rm]

I’m really curious what your take is on the Prescriptive License movement I’ve been learning about recently. Is this something you would consider? What do you think that would do to one’s earning potential?

[@Rascal8372]

I am a PhD clinical psychologist with a masters in psychopharm. Prescribing sounds great but it is very complicated. Only a few states have a path for prescribing. It’s 2-2.5 years of courses after doctoral work then more years of supervision. Statistically, it yields an extra 20k but it’s trickier than that. Short answer, not worth it. Go for psych nurse practitioner or med school if interested in meds.