You've Never Seen an EV Charger Like This!

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Josh Charles

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@benjaminnead8557 2 ай бұрын

Yes, keep these video updates and product development coming, Josh. The best to your continued endeavors.

@mondotv4216 2 ай бұрын

2 things for success (IMO). 1. Make the EVSE OCPP compatible- this will help alleviate fears that if the company goes bust the things you need disappear like upgrades, backend booking and billing etc. 2. Rather than a traditional business model where you just try and sell the EVSE's make it a club with membership that supports the backend with booking the EVSE in advance, billing etc. Perhaps even partner with one of the existing auto breakdown companies like the AAA in the US who can help with the backend because they already have all that infrastructure in place. I can see applications in apartment carparks etc so I would design wall mounted solutions as well as post mounted.

@ltpinecone 2 ай бұрын

The edge connector system is a REALLY good idea! Especially to reduce waste and clutter from wires. As cool as that was, moving the controllers into the house is definitely the best move. You guys are doing good work, keep it up!

@Moskitgp 2 ай бұрын

Wow. Great job. Looks good. Would be awesome if in future it would be available also in EU. 😮

@jonforeman7731 2 ай бұрын

I'm so excited for this project. Id kill for a "white picket" fence where every other post is a charger. Mailbox post charger. Front yard light post.

@xjdisuehd 2 ай бұрын

We need to start seeing the work going on cables!!

@mikeselectricstuff 2 ай бұрын

You could reduce cost on that LED board by adding a gap somewhere around the perimeter to allow two boards to be overlapped on a production panel .

@sensor6101 2 ай бұрын

Excellent. This is how level 2 charging should be setup - use your own cord.

@robinbennett5994 2 ай бұрын

Really interesting to see the development process, and moving all the complex electronics out of the post sounds like a great idea. One factor I didn't consider when I bought a charger is the API. Some electricity companies are offering really great tariffs for chargers they can control, but they've only integrated with a few chargers, and that makes those chargers a lot more valuable.

@nyc6035a 2 ай бұрын

This conceptually would be great within urban environments like New York City. Based upon this video it appears you have a good handle on the technical aspects of building out a strong product. That said, there is an additional equally necessary effort to drive success: determining how this will be deployed in local jurisdictions. Lots of questions like: who owns the curbing outside one's home; can the home owner legally run power to a post curbside; can parking be perhaps legally limited to actively charging EVs to limit the spot being "ICE'd". I would encourage your team to partner with Legal counsel to work this track as well with equal effort. Having a couple of partner jurisdictions to pilot this solution to work through the new legal and permitting 'issues' will give this product the best chance of success. Ideally once these details are worked through a 'how to' roadmap for post owners and the local jurisdiction can be provided with each sale to make this as cookie-cutter as possible allowing folks unfamiliar to follow established best practices. This is an exciting opportunity to address a fundamental issue with EV adoption. Best of luck driving a solution. I'm pulling for you.

@firefoxsimp 2 ай бұрын

I've been following this project for a while now and love it. The main concern I have is with the cable - what prevents someone from just leaving the cable out/connected when not in use?

@charleshill7184 2 ай бұрын

Thieves?

@salibaba 2 ай бұрын

Seems like a decent idea. I’m in the UK and this seems like an offshoot of a couple of ideas we already have here, but will face the same hurdles. We have Gullee. It’s a channel through the pavement(sidewalk) to the kerbside to allow an EVSE cable to be run though it between an owners vehicle on the road and an EVSE within their property line. Some areas prohibit this crossing the public land. We also have co-change who facilitate shared charging allowing you to rent out your charger. Even if both of these are combined, a homeowner still has no say in reserving that parking space on the public road. A few companies have trialled buried retractable EVSE points within the ground at the kerbside but these have been limited to just a few commercial and local authorities my operators. Allowing these installations long term would probably require a long term lease of the public road and the land which the cable crosses as well as liability insurance with or without the public access.

@AndrewNicholsSeattle 2 ай бұрын

I'm interested in the Mk5's electronics moving inside the house. Does that mean you won't be able to light up the door panel until a charge is initiated? I wonder about where the electronics will go in the house: at the breaker box or in an outlet? Looking forward to the next progress video.

@JonathanDenni 2 ай бұрын

Should be trivial to have a constant low power feed for the LEDs. They use very little energy and don’t have the same safety and cooling concerns as the charging lines.

@SHO1989 2 ай бұрын

I'm really enjoying your process of iteration on this charger. Reminds me of Tesla and SpaceX - move fast and break things to get closer to your goal. Ive been holding off on an EV purchase for many reasons but one is the home charging piece. I live in a condo and the parking spot is a long distance from the front door so I'd need something like your charger installed to make an EV practical for me. Looking forward to your future videos and progress on this!

@bastiat691 2 ай бұрын

If you want to properly weather seal the cables coming in, please consider doing what is recommended on houses: 1 cable 1 hole, sealing a single cable in a single hole is far simpler and more reliable.

@dalececil7527 2 ай бұрын

I’ve been following. Looking forward to the next video.

@sallerc 2 ай бұрын

Interesting stuff! Thank you for all your work for EV adoption, hope everything goes well.

@junehanzawa5165 2 ай бұрын

In the old days, people used to install a gas pump in front of their homes on rural areas to make some money on the side because gas stations were very rear there. This is no different and multitudes cheaper and simpler to do. I can see entrepreneuring people in rural areas with large solar arrays selling their extra electricity with a charger or two in front of their homes or small business.

@mondotv4216 2 ай бұрын

Well, you'd have to set up a campsite with it. Remember this is L2 charging. So overnight or destination charging.

@junehanzawa5165 2 ай бұрын

@mondotv4216 I'm talking with a 40 or 50kW charger or two, not level 2. A 100kW solar array on yard or the large roof of a small business with an industrial inverter. You can increase it to a larger array as it pays for itself. You also add some batteries as they get cheaper and cheaper to collect solar all day long and then charge a few cars per night or when the sun is low. An entrepreneur doesn't think small like you. That's what makes them entrepreneurs.

@neptune._ 2 ай бұрын

Wouldn't it be a better idea to use the SAE's updated J3068 connection standard instead of a J1772 for detachable cables? SAE calls J3068 the universal ac connector and intends for it to be used for chargers with detachable cables even in North America.

@mark123655 2 ай бұрын

It's been mentioned by someone in everyone of the videos.. but keeps getting ignored for some reason.

@TAWithiam 2 ай бұрын

@@mark123655 I think he actually said at some point they will, can't remember which video so take that with a grain of salt

@davidraso 2 ай бұрын

Have you seen “EV Ultra” cable from the UK? It’s 3/5 core armored cable with an integrated cat5 cable. Not sure if there is equivalent in North America. Could be interesting solution to move the majority of the electronics indoors like you say but then use the cat5 to provide some data to the post for status lights/temp sensors etc.

@johnrbnsn 2 ай бұрын

I’m excited, when will you offer a version for sale? How’s the app dev going? Have you considered adding a camera to the post? Just thinking about the vandalism potential and cameras are pretty cheap and a good deterrent/ makes the charger multipurpose for owners too.

@vevenaneathna 2 ай бұрын

paint the inside of the post black, it will help with thermals a good amount because it will not reflect as much heat back inside. i believe with non forced air cooling solutions for temp ranges where most electronics hang out, radieative heat transfer is actually the dominate mechanism for heat movement. most people dont stop to think about a surface's emissivity but if youre trying to go without a fan/forced air cooling system, its very important.

@greggleswong 2 ай бұрын

It's been a while since I've heard Twenty-one Pilots

@JoelSapp 2 ай бұрын

curious if you have seen the product by Trojan Energy which is low profile, and is harder to damage. This would be something nice for homeowners or even fleet type.

@h.gatnaw 2 ай бұрын

Came for the technology, stayed for the Twenty One Pilots

@jeremiahkuehne2400 2 ай бұрын

What is the legality of selling electricity from a private residence?

@TradieTrev 2 ай бұрын

I like your idea and design, but it wouldn't work in Australia. You require to be an electrician here in my country to do any EV charger civil work on public land. Plus to get your product approved here you need to get RCM approval. Think big for a world wide application following IEC standards, keep up the good work mate!

@Epicookiez 2 ай бұрын

so you're ditching all the iterations entirely?

@chrislamerican2989 2 ай бұрын

thats all well and good but what happens when a neighbor on the street wants use your charger at the same time you want to charge your car from your electricity? that's gonna get old real fast

@benjaminnead8557 2 ай бұрын

As the EVs in the neighborhood start to proliferate, the owners of those cars start investigating how to get something like this for themselves. For reference, I've owned a used EV for 9 year now and have always charged it off the 120V outlet on or near the front porch of whatever property I happen to be renting or owning.

@fuckthisksksjjksdfjd 2 ай бұрын

Two options authentication so only you can use it or billing so you can charge when other people use it.

@pabbip9 2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing I think a good add on on the app is block out when people can’t buy your power. Especially it creates a time when you will use the charge for yourself

@chargeeverywhere 2 ай бұрын

This is an option, but there may be different restrictions based on the charger location. For instance, some municipalities may require it to remain "public" at all times, which may not be ideal. As @benjaminnead8557 says, this is an issue that we see as a short-term one. Eventually, others will become interested in how you are charging, and the network begins to grow.

@Nicholas-f5 2 ай бұрын

Set the fee really high

@pabbip9 2 ай бұрын

Are you looking for a investor? I have great business knowledge. Worked with many ev charging companies also I have a good team of software engineers to help with app/coding for selling your own power. On top of all that I’ve done a lot of work with municipalities so I know how to get local government on board. A lot of contacts overseas for manufacturing. Would love to talk

@chargeeverywhere 2 ай бұрын

Shoot me an email. I'd love to talk.

@CSHarvey 2 ай бұрын

Its sad that installing a 220v oultet in a streetlight is such a difficulty for our modern civilization.

@icandreamstream 2 ай бұрын

The issue is that they’re not wired with the wire gauge required to safely supply the huge current needed to charge EVs

@TAWithiam 2 ай бұрын

@@icandreamstream Not really (for AC charging that is, this isn't DC fast charging), I mean one of the most popular ways to install an EV charger is to install a NEMA 14-50 receptacle and plug a portable 240v EVSE into it. The real problem with normal NEMA receptacle in streetlight poles is weather protection (and payment). EV plugs are just much better suited to the situation, so BYOC (bring your own cable) makes the most sense. The only thing that bothers me is the Europeans went with the wrong plug gender on the pole (which we are now stuck with if we're using their connector on the post), their BYOC cables are male to female instead of female to female (male end is on the ev there apparently, it's based on the contacts/pins themselves which is male and which is female, MC4 connectors are similarly confusing) so their BYOC cables are made like extension cables, so you can't use the same cable to do vehicle to vehicle charging. At least in the US we will have to have separate cables for V2V anyways since we use/will be using NACS on the vehicles side anyways.

@kaihendry 2 ай бұрын

@@icandreamstreamyou don’t need a huge current. 10A is fine overnight.

@Snerdles 2 ай бұрын

Well, considering commercial power isn't 220/240 and the circuits are designed to run a couple of lights rather than a bunch of high draw applications and then you have to figure out billing and costs... Suddenly you realize why it's more difficult than you think initially.

@CSHarvey 2 ай бұрын

Thank you all for demonstrating how America has become the Can't Do nation.