This is a very good video and explanation, plenty of comments as well. There were three of us that founded the company, my dad, Jim (after leaving Piper) and Ed MacDonough (retired before joining) and me. We all had specialties and worked very well together. I was mostly involved in Stability and Control, IT and CAD/CAM designing and machining operations. Those of you that have flown in the Venture know of the up and away handling qualities, I'm proud of the efforts we put into getting it to fly the way it does. I know we designed the aircraft to meet Part 23 requirements, but actual FAA certification would have been expensive. That was an eventual goal (see Cirrus) but other events got in the way. Comments on the comments: 1) Carbon would not have been lighter, but would be more tooling intensive, 2) The ration of MAC from Wing AC to HT AC is 3 to 3.2, sweet spot for good design (mentioned in the video), 3) Tandem seating would not be faster, just skinnier and longer (gear placement, wetted area of the aircraft, ...) and you would lose the center console, 4) I could have done better on the header tank (Part 23 requirement) and fuel selector, 5) The Porsche PFM 3200 was the original (thanks Ken), but it was a weekend of relofting to fit the IO-550G, good choice for speed. The video mentioned a skinny wing, the tip was 10% T/C and the root was 17% T/C, average 13.5%, relatively thick, but the tip fooled the viewer eye.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
I'm honored to have you here in the comments! And many apologies for my oversight in not including your involvement in the program, I only took knowledge once the video was nearing completion. And also thanks for providing the additional insight for the viewers here. It's a plane with a ton of misconceptions for sure!
@DougGriswold-w6n11 ай бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids - Thank you for making the video, no issue at all about the recognition. I have connections with a number of owners/builders and interested folks, they know who I am. I've flown in the Venture for over a hundred hours and I love the comfort and ease of flying. I'll try to respond to comments as I see them. Doug Griswold
@mattwilliams345611 ай бұрын
Things like this are the best part of youtube. If you were making a version 2.0 today are there any significant changes you'd incorporate?@@DougGriswold-w6n
@jc11250f4511 ай бұрын
@@DougGriswold-w6n Thanks for the input Doug. You know Dan and I love the Venture. I have flown over 10 different Ventures and the prototype Spirit. My Questair Venture hours are now over 2000 and there is not a finer flying or more efficient single engine in the air that can burn 5 GPH @ 150 KTAS or 10.3 GPH at 17,000 ft truing out at 235 KTAS. My current Venture with your Dad’s name as the builder has been to over 35,000 ft. I regularly make 1000 nm trips non stop with about 250 nm reserve. My cruise climb is 160 KTS indicated and approx 1800 rpm depending on the temps. In a hurry to get thru a layer of ice just set the airspeed on 120 KTS indicated and climb at 3000 FPM. Thanks for the wonderful airplane you helped develop!
@jc11250f4511 ай бұрын
Meant to say 1800 ft per min @ 120 KTS indicated on a high performance climb to avoid ice. Also N27V carries 10 extra gallons of fuel beyond the standard 52 gallons.
@stefanschneider368111 ай бұрын
I am neither a pilot nor plan I ever to become one, I am just a YT-consumer interested in all kinds of topics. And I kept watching till the end! Because the video is well done, good footage, good pace and nicely narrated. Thx!
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! I'm my own worst critic (aren't we all?) and feel there's lots of room for improvement, but I'm trying to get there with each new video.
@TheJaymon196210 ай бұрын
I agree completely. Very nicely done. New subscriber here!
@aircraftadventures-vids10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Means a lot 👍@@TheJaymon1962
@ChestrCopprpot10 ай бұрын
I totally agree with the original comment. It’s a perfect video. The friendly, conversational narration and relaxed pace made it a pleasure to listen to. The research, excellent visuals, and clear animations made it fascinating. Bravo!
@ChestrCopprpot10 ай бұрын
Oh and nice Jedediah Avatar!
@moremetafeta11 ай бұрын
I got to fly in in one a long time ago and it was amazing! The climb attitude and climb rate were just crazy. It seemed more like a jet than a single engine piston GA aircraft like a Cessna 182. Jim Griswold the designer was mentioned a lot in the video, as the designer, but Ed MacDonough was a great engineer too. He was involved with the design of the inboard gull wing section of the F4U Corsair fighter from WWII. I remember I was with Ed looking at an F4U parked at Oshkosh and he discerned that the plane we were looking at came from a GoodYear factory and not Chance Vought, just my looking at the rivet patterns on the aircraft. That amazed me.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for that info on Ed, I didn’t really have an intel on him but it sounds like the ultimate duo if you ask me.
@moremetafeta11 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Jim Griswold's son Doug also was an engineer on the project. I think he did some work on the General Dynamics F-16.@@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Yes in fact he dropped a comment here today to provide some more insight! @@moremetafeta
@kruck9611 ай бұрын
Flew mine yesterday. From sea level to 7k in 3 minutes at 145kts indicated. Two people and just over half tanks.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
@@kruck96 wowza!
@msmeyersmd89 ай бұрын
I knew a wealthy cardiac surgeon who was an experienced pilot. He loved the airplane during VFR and minimal crosswind landing conditions. He said to me that he would never fly it in IFR conditions. Because without a properly operating auto-pilot? It was too unstable to hand fly an IFR approach if there were any problems at all. I respected him for telling me that. I believe he sold the airplane soon after our conversation? Personally, I believe there is a reason that there are no high speed common aircraft that look like this short-coupled narrow landing gear airplanes that last the test of time. Your mileage may vary.
@MVH-ft5ux2 ай бұрын
I personaly dont fly...... Reason being....... The bible plainly tells us "Lo and i am with you" You get up there, you are on your own
@MVH-ft5ux2 ай бұрын
Amen
@class2instructor322 ай бұрын
At our flight school there was a guy we called " Dr Death", our theory was he had a god complex, always flew in ridiculous weather, one time he actually was scraping ice off the windscreen through the storm window on approach with his family on board, Because of him I jkind of generalized all doctors as having the same attitude & not really having time to keep up on flying.
@whatilearnttoday5295Ай бұрын
The cardiac surgeon knows the other reason there are few high speed aircraft for recreation. Old pilot guys who can afford such things, have hearts which can't keep up with them. They die in the air and crash into someones house.
@whatilearnttoday5295Ай бұрын
@@class2instructor32 All doctors have the same attitude. ;D
@sparkynapalm36624 ай бұрын
My grandfather built one of these (Tail Number N-129). He was a retired crew chief in the Navy and Air Force serving in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. He worked on just about every piston engine and jet engine aircraft made during those eras. I flew in it numerous times and still have the VHS tapes of video I took. He modified the engine with turbos and more. I was amazed how fast the thing would climb. The Sumter County Airport was home base. Shaw AFB (F-16's) was just a few miles away. Was awesome to see those pilots looking at us zipping around. Once we did an all out speed run about 100 feet off the ground at a local airport. An FAA guy saw us, and chastised us when we landed but fortunate he gave us a pass since he had known my grandfather for decades.
@aircraftadventures-vids4 ай бұрын
Awesome experience! Thanks for sharing
@kertbert13 ай бұрын
Your Grandad sounds like a very cool guy!
@gutsymovies11 ай бұрын
I went to work at Cessna as a young engineer in 2000 and had the pleasure of meeting Doug Griswold, son of Jim Griswold. Doug was also involved in the development of the prototype Venture aircraft and he let me borrow a set of plans and photo album of the prototype construction. It's kind of a funny looking aircraft on the ground but looking at the total wetted area vs. piston area you can see why it's a rocket. It's an absolutely brilliant design. I'd love to see the kit put back in production again with modern assembly techniques like the Van's aircraft series.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Cool experience, thanks for sharing! Had the honor of Doug dropping some commentary on the video yesterday.
@Rhaspun10 ай бұрын
Too bad Vans doesn't pick this plan and sell it.
@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity4 ай бұрын
@@RhaspunThey’re having their own issues.
@einundsiebenziger548811 ай бұрын
There is a line of plastic plane models by Japanese maker Hasegawa called the Egg Series in which all kinds of famous plane types are re-modeled into, well, egg-shaped planes. Seems like the designer of this plane was a great fan of that series.
@voornaam31914 ай бұрын
There is even an egg language. Eggywan. Yeggou adeggdegg anegg egegggegg afeggteggeregg eachegg veggoweggelegg. Uneggdeggereggseggteggoodegg?
@larryweitzman516311 ай бұрын
Questair was a neat bird. Interestingly, didn't know Griswold designed it and how it was designed, so thanks for that as I have some time in Malibus. But you made a mistake listing the Malibu at 3,000 pounds, that's its empty weight, no fuel, no pax. But today to get Questair performance in a great shape one has to look at the Lancair Legacy, essentially just as fast with similar power and longer range. Hard to beat a Legacy. It's issue is its construction material, but it can be built relatively quickly. I fly a very fast, totally stock V35B.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Not a mistake, I listed both out with empty weights, so orange to orange comparison.
@garyhoward406411 ай бұрын
Venture will cost half…
@gregjennings944211 ай бұрын
I worked with the designer’s brother, Mike Griswold, when The Flying Egg first came on the scene. Mike was the chief engineer of the AFTI F-16 program. The admin made cookies for each member’s birthday. Their choice as to the kind of cookie. Mike let it be known that they could have any cookie they wanted as long as it was snickerdoodles.
@buffdelcampo4 ай бұрын
I got to fly N62V with Rich Gritter (Questair test/demo pilot) many years ago. The airplane flew very well. He let me explore the low speed end of the envelope. Rich told me to stay off the rudder and use ailerons, which seemed a little different to me. It worked well. I had been flying a Grumman Tiger with similar steering, so the differential braking/steering was a non issue. Any "bad habits" of this plane are likely from commenters that never flew the plane. That thing was rock solid and probably a great IFR platform.
@handy33511 ай бұрын
An excellent video! Thank you!! I got to fly in a Venture in 1999. On departure, we hit 160 mph prior to the end of the runway! Then, we flew 53 miles from 10,000' at the MOA above Lake Isabella, CA back to the Porterville airport (KPTV) in 7 1/2 minutes (400mph + - downhill all the way). Blew me away!
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Glad you got to experience that, tx for sharing
@larryweitzman516311 ай бұрын
Handy, you are aware of the 250 knot speed limit below 10,000' Maybe there is no speed limit in a MOA, but I think it would apply to non military aircraft. But I think that's a good question, time to look it up. But great fun!!
@larryweitzman516311 ай бұрын
Just check, when a MOA is active, military aircraft are exempt from the speed limit below 10,000'.
@AC-jk8wq11 ай бұрын
@@larryweitzman5163 the rule that most GA pilots have to memorize, but never get the chance to break…. 😃
@e36s50b3011 ай бұрын
@@AC-jk8wq😂😂😂 yep!
@willfox481311 ай бұрын
Very nice video. I fly a Questair Venture. It is incredibly efficient (flat plate drag area of only 1.46 feet^2) and has outstanding performance. It is a beautiful plane to fly. The controls are well harmonized and feel solid. Looks can be deceiving. It is quite stable in terms of both static and dynamic stability. What else would you expect from an aircraft designed by Griswold and McDonough, both professional aircraft designers. The high aspect ratio wings give it excellent performance at altitude. It handles x-winds just fine. The retractable landing gear was perhaps the most challenging part of the design. It can be finicky, but works well when properly rigged and maintained. The Venture is a thrill to fly. Makes a Bonanza feel like a Cessna 172 in comparison:-)
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Uh oh, Bonanza owners will be storming in soon! Thank you Will for your support in this video and also dispelling some myths. I had a lot of fun producing this video and Jim's an outstanding guy, that helped me connect all the dots to the story also.
@biblewaytolive11 ай бұрын
Thank You for informations: Could you tell us where more are located? Are there any in Bend, Oregon? James--
@countrichardvoncoudenhovek885510 ай бұрын
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪,, a very enjoyable video, wow what an exciting little aircraft....don't like the landing gear though ,could be a handful in a cross wind 😁
@aircraftadventures-vids10 ай бұрын
@@countrichardvoncoudenhovek8855 greetings from Florida! Thanks!!!
@aircraftadventures-vids10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! This was a fun video to work on for sure @@countrichardvoncoudenhovek8855
@Tubesmaney3 ай бұрын
The engine in those things sounds fantastic!
@That_Guy55759 ай бұрын
What a funky looking little plane, I like it! But what struck me the most is how it almost sounds like a war bird buzzing by! So cool!
@thudableАй бұрын
Cool little buzzer. Thanks for posting.
@aircraftadventures-vidsАй бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@AirDOGGe11 ай бұрын
I'll never forget seeing Tommy Rose's Venture dive in when his stabilizer folded during the 2002 Reno Air Races. He exceeded several of the manufacturer's redlines, so not the aircraft's fault. RIP.
@cyclingbutterbean11 ай бұрын
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@incargeek10 ай бұрын
I was there when that happened. RIP.
@cyclingbutterbean10 ай бұрын
It was ugly for sure.@@incargeek
@bradleyramondpierce1334 ай бұрын
Dude I was there! So sad
@scottgupton24292 ай бұрын
I was there. Crashed in front of me. Not only Rose, but as the rest of the racers were recovering , another one [Forgot his name] ground looped his Venture on landing Rwy. 8 and ended up in the weeds. I'll never forget it.
@dieselscience3 ай бұрын
I used to have a neighbor who was a fabricator and welder for the shop in Greensboro. He really respected Griswold.
@brendanthebdog10 ай бұрын
This plane looks extremely fun to fly, awesome video!
@BrilliantDesignOnline11 ай бұрын
As a Varieze owner, my next step I was thinking would be a LongEZ or a Cozy MKIV, but this could be a great contender, with a top end like that. But 13 gph makes it a bit less economical considering I currently get 4.5 gph at 145 ktas. Nonetheless, that top end is sweet and the side by side cockpit is a wife pleaser. Great vid, since I did not even know this was a thing.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Very pleased to introduce you, it's definitely not a mainstream aircraft and am very happy if more people can learn about it (whether they like the plane or not) FYI, I'm not 100% sure but I think the green Questair in the video is for sale. You can email Jim (see my description) if you want to inquire about it. I want a $5 finder's fee if that happens 😂
@BrilliantDesignOnline11 ай бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vidsHeck, you got a deal...I may even up it to $5.99, AND give you a ride; But, I would not hold my breath, either.
@08turboSS10 ай бұрын
Time is$ abd in 3 hrs you'll be barely 430 mi but the Egg will get you 540 mi in 2 hrs, sure its a bit more fuel but itll be close.
@theymusthatetesla3186Ай бұрын
What a delightful little creature!!
@SeanHollingsworth11 ай бұрын
I remember when these were still racing at Reno. I think 3 crashed in the same year. Their tails couldn't handle the stress. They were incredibly fast.
@bearlemley11 ай бұрын
Yes it was designed on cad cam. We had licensed the cad program from McDonald Douglas to build the Malibu and the “baby Malibu” was designed by the same team as a bit of a pet project. Griswald leaving with the plans was part of his severance package. So when the Baby Malibu got the big NO from the ever changing corporate structure at the time (I think Lear Sigler owned us then) gave the project a big NO, Griswald took his toy and left. I was really hoping he would make it as that was / is a nice plane.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
That's fascinating! Thank you for providing that unique on the Venture. I had suspicions he wanted to certify the plane after all.
@jjm294810 ай бұрын
It was
@EssensOrAccidensАй бұрын
You are gifted in passing along your enthusiasm about aircraft. I am enjoying your videos.
@JamesSmith-op7yc10 күн бұрын
What a beauty! A true hotrod. I'll take it (with the fixed gear) I remember this aircraft and looked into buying/building one, just couldn't afford it at the time. Missed out on a good deal. I love these planes. Thanks for sharing, fly safe, J. 🤠🫡
@aircraftadventures-vids10 күн бұрын
Agreed, and thanks for watching!
@dalejohnson3363Ай бұрын
As a DAR, I issued several Experimental Certificates to these aircraft at the Windham, CT Airport with the late Henry Boulay. It was a very interesting project.
@billw281217 күн бұрын
Oh, that Dam airport.....took many walks there.
@1950Bonanza2 ай бұрын
I desperately wanted one of these back in the day...still do. The only kit plane that can do 400MPH, this was with a TSIO550 producing 350HP at 25000', this is TAS. Then the owner and engine builder died in a tragic accident and the company basically lost it's drive.
@texastyrannyresponseteam79411 ай бұрын
This will always be one of those.. "damn i should have" airplanes.. when we chose the Glasair this was one of the kits we looked t getting.. along with a lancair.. RV.. and a handful of others.. in the end, we Built a Glasair... and it was the right move.. solid, fast, sexy, nimble, and FUN..
@trueairspeed13011 ай бұрын
owning a Questair and having owned a glasair, I think the composite plane with a more conventional gear system is better.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Both are incredible planes. Both perform well, and to many pilots, the Glasair / Lancair look more "conventional" and that alone probably helped boost their success.
@garyvanremortel521811 ай бұрын
I met and had lunch with Alan Tolle and his wife at The Spirit of San Luis restaurant back in the days right after he built his Venture. The gear was tweaky. He was a great guy.
@Viking88886 ай бұрын
I saw one of those static at Falcon Field in Mesa, AZ a little over 10 years ago. I couldn't stop staring at it. It was such a cool design and ya, that gear setup made me think you'd need some fighter jet training to land it. Boy would I LOVE to fly one of those.
@anandsharma743010 ай бұрын
Even as a complete layman, this was a completely enjoyable and informative video. Heck, even I could afford to buy a ride on this plane for a weekend trip given how fuel efficient it seems to be.
@aircraftadventures-vids10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@badassbrian114 ай бұрын
THAT LIL PLANE IS FREAKIN AWESOME
@heidisparklebottom11 ай бұрын
Great vid, you deserve a much wider audience!
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Working on it...
@terryscanlon562 ай бұрын
That sir , is one badass little aircraft!👍
@AlanMydland-fq2vs2 ай бұрын
yes it is😂❤❤
@jasperwright9237Ай бұрын
Well done! Jim wouldn’t know me, but he seemed nice in passing at GSO.
@edcew823611 ай бұрын
I've flown in the two prototypes and a kit built airplane. The Venture was a great airplane but with two faults. One is that the gear and flaps were linked together. Not necessarily a problem, but the flaps were full span and included the ailerons. On landing, with the flaps down and the ailerons less effective, and the tiny wheels, when the wing was tilted, the lift vector would pull the plane off the runway. (I obviously don't remember all the details.) Second, the fuel system had (I think) header tanks, and there were circumstances in which that could lead to fuel starvation. A friend lost his due to this. As an aside, the control systems had spring to give the control feel, and those needed to be adjusted properly. On the prototypes, the plane flew like a truck, exactly what you want for an IFR, X-C plane. And the very sharp leading edge on the horizontal tail could accumulate ice easily, according to all the theories.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt11 ай бұрын
Don’t have flaps and the drag of the gear both have the effect to push down the nose. Should the cg not move backwards? Wheels stored in front?
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your perspective on that!
@jimharbison608811 ай бұрын
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@johannjohann652310 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. That's crazy 5,000 hours build time for such a small aircraft. I mean it has so many pluses with the engine and cockpit. But taking up to 10 years to build had to be 10 years of frustration for pilots. If they lived that long. lol
@scottnj25034 ай бұрын
This thing reminds me of the Gee Bee aircraft of near 100 years ago. Small and fast.
@spdyrzr013 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@richardstamper56302 ай бұрын
What a special bit of kit, even with it's minor drawbacks
@deanflores48374 ай бұрын
That looks like a fun little plane.
@danielduesentriebjuniorАй бұрын
Great little plane!
@mikestirewalt519311 ай бұрын
Nicely done.
@AudioFileZ4 ай бұрын
I'm nearing 65 and not a pilot with no plans to take it up. That said if I was a young man and had seen this video I'd be encouraged to get my license and aspire to buy one of these planes that seems to offer so much fun with just the smidge of practicality (like owning a Porsche). It sounds rather safe and just in my experience in owning multiple automobiles of both the turbo and normal aspiration types, I definitely prefer the naturally aspirated engines for better longevity and less complexity to which, I assume, may bleed over into aircraft engines?
@mickflytwАй бұрын
Nicely done. I appreciate that you use your own voice instead of text-to-speech.
@aircraftadventures-vidsАй бұрын
Thanks! And it's funny you mention that - my last video (Helio Courier) was text-to-speech, but based on my own voice. (it makes the process of scripting and recording so much smoother). Check out the last video and see what you think of the voiceover.
@mickflytwАй бұрын
@aircraftadventures-vids You'll get better with practice. It's more personable, relatable, and genuine to hear a real dude talking. I can tell you liked the subject. Now, here you are, actually replying to a comment. I'll subscribe and watch more of your videos.
@bradh618510 ай бұрын
The sounds are fantastic.
@FLHTdriver11 ай бұрын
This is designed just like the Gee-Bee or GB racer from the 1930's air racing days. Both R1 and R2 were hard to fly but very fast as they were built with a Bumble Bee as the base for the design concept. One was built as a replica and flying out of Creswell Oregon if memory serves. I can't remember the name of the pilot but he could make that aircraft dance in the sky. It was a real joy to see a plane going that that fast but the wings were only 2.5 inch's thick and very short. But this looks very similar in it's proportions to the GB.
@SUPER_HELPFUL11 ай бұрын
Oh cool another plane to add to the list of planes I desperately want.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Likewise!
@daniellang61124 ай бұрын
I don't fly very much,I am not a pilot but this looks well thought out. Nice job!
@heartsky11 ай бұрын
I think Mike Patey built one of these and set some records before building his Lancair. Great informative video, very well done.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Sounds like Mike alright! And thanks for the kind words.
@KutWrite11 ай бұрын
Looks like a fun plane. Love your little avatar of the pilot from "Mad Max." He flew a different kind of egg.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Gyro captain. One of my favorite characters of all movies. Up to no good but had a good heart.
@Mogry5111 ай бұрын
Fantastic Mini Documentary! This video made me smile. Thank you for making this! Great airplane. That plane reminded me of my little Mazda Miata. (at least in spirit)
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Miata with 500hp would be a good comparison, lol
@wayneschenk551211 ай бұрын
Should be built again in the current market it would be very competitive.
@handy33511 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. No piston powered aircraft on the market today can touch it except perhaps the Thunder Mustang.
@friendlymaendi11 ай бұрын
@@handy335and Darkaero 1.
@Triple_J.111 ай бұрын
It takes about 6,000 hours to build one. If you count factory parts production and builder final assembly. Experimental aircraft are built for two reasons. Cost, and performance. But rarely performance at any cost. Therefore, the market for these types is in the double digits at best.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
The Vans RV series set the standard for build time, so unless a quick-build is offered which substantially cuts down build time, it's going to be hard to compete.
@billw281217 күн бұрын
That landing gear must be vicious in a crosswind.
@aircraftadventures-vids16 күн бұрын
Docile, maybe not. But vicious? The owners I spoke to told me it behaves quite well in xwinds actually
@powderhounderfulАй бұрын
Mooney driver here. I like things that go fast. Unfortunately, the Questair will always remain on my no buy list, despite the fantastic flight characteristics. I attended the 2002 Reno Air Races and watched one Questair tumble on landing due to a light crosswind. Sadly, later in the day I watched Tommy Rose perish on the main straight right in front of the grand stands as the tail on his Questair departed the fuselage.
@powderhounderfulАй бұрын
Forgot to mention, great video! Well done and love the history here. Thanks for putting it out there!
@aircraftadventures-vidsАй бұрын
Thank you!
@larryegilman12 ай бұрын
Since you mentioned Reno, Tommy Rose was killed when the horizontal stabilizer failed under load and down fractured, resulting in him crashing on the home straight. No more ventures were allowed to race at Reno
@aviator13523 ай бұрын
Very nice. I have built many engines for the Lancair V and would have loved to have built a nice balanced high compression IO-550 for these little racers.
@marksmith663411 ай бұрын
Looks like a blast to fly, I hope it makes a come back, someone should start producing them again, just re-engineer the landing gear!
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
I hope so too!
@shane14211 ай бұрын
Sounds strange, but in some ways, it reminds me in looks and the ideas of the Bell XP-77
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Not strange at all. To me, it reminds me of the McDonnell Goblin
@johnfitzpatrick246911 ай бұрын
Terrific video and quality content. Merry Christmas 🌏🌲
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you 👍
@Completeaerogeek3 ай бұрын
Love to see it with a 400hp Allison 250!
@rolandocrisostomo20034 ай бұрын
That is an amazing little plane.
@michaeldaltonsr89549 ай бұрын
TY! Becoming a pilot has always been a dream of mine, yet life has gotten in the way! Anyway, in 2012, I had a head-scratching experience, which wasn't solved until 2021. What I saw, I knew dam well that I saw it. Yet, even I thought I was crazy, and didn't actually see it. Until, in 2021, home-bound by Coof-protocol, I Googled the kit-planes, and there was what I saw in 2012. Not your Venture, but similiar. Obviously, I'm just a poor country bumpkin!! But, I would still love to fly one of those rascals!!😊
@craigpennington125111 ай бұрын
Hey, a suppository with wings. Nice paint job too.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
I've always said that about the new Goodyear blimp.
@tomeickhorst67879 ай бұрын
Would love to see Mikey Patey get ahold of one of these and mod it like he does everything
@michaelmartinez134511 ай бұрын
What a Hot Rod! Interesting design and an application of the "What if we made a Malibu shorter?"... It looks like it could be an unstable design, but the designers KNEW what they were doing with this one, as most of the people who have been up in this plane said the controls feel really nice.... A big 520 cid engine in this little plane!!! I'm wondering what the glide ratio is...
@jc11250f4511 ай бұрын
Glide ratio with gear and flaps up is a little over 15:1. The standard engine is an IO-550G 280 hp @ 2500. Several Ventures have the IO-550N which is 310 hp @ 2700 rpm. Or just turn up the G model to 2700 rpm and you have the same thing.
@michaelmartinez134511 ай бұрын
@@jc11250f45 Wow, not a bad glide ratio for a 300 mph plane! Gotcha on that engine size and induction system / cylinder layout...
@FarmerFpvАй бұрын
Wow, fantastic video! Great editing and narrating. You are good at it!
@joelpww11 ай бұрын
So super intrigued by this one
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
i'm still intrigued! (even after having sat in one)
@bayanon753211 ай бұрын
Good article. Wish I were younger.
@shakehandswithdanger788211 ай бұрын
Don't we all
@svartmetall11 ай бұрын
It's so cute! It looks like a chibi plane out of some anime...or something...I love it.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
It does!
@quelin111 ай бұрын
5:36 that voice in the background scared the heck out of me. sounded like somebody standing behind me at my desk
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Lol, I didn't even realize that voice was in there till I cranked up the volume way loud! That was the owner Jim offering some history on the plane, and I forgot to edit it out.
@wernerdanler27424 ай бұрын
Ha ha. You thought your boss had caught you not working.😂😅😂😅😂
@stevenbeach74811 ай бұрын
My old boss had one. I never got to fly in it with him though. He also owned an MU2 but he preferred to fly this one. I’m pretty sure he set a west to east coast record for an experimental with it. I know he had oxygen in it and used to fly it super high.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
I think I recall one of the Venture owners telling me about this.
@beaforest73534 ай бұрын
One QV flew from the east coast to the west coast and did 1 fuel stop. The next day he flew from the west coat to West Palm Beach, FL non stop with a 10-15 kts tailwind!
@peted52174 күн бұрын
Local Neuro Surgeon flew converted twin turbo prop til his 84th , when Happy Hunting Grounds called. Claimed it was lest cost 300 mph cruise.
@hugejohnson501111 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for a well put together and informative video! I learned stuff!
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
My pleasure! And I do too!
@OzcarMike6418 ай бұрын
They should bring the design back in Carbon
@drifter50311 ай бұрын
Pretty cool video, very informative
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Thanks, appreciate it!
@alain99v68 ай бұрын
That plane came on the kit plane market in the same era as Lancair and some others came with their fast buit kits that knocked down 1000's of hours wth composite molded frame ready to work on, I remember it very well 30 years ago, couldn't afford one and was looking for a more traditionnal Rand Robinson KR-2 with a VW beetle engine
@joncox971911 ай бұрын
Fast enough at Reno Air Races for the horizontal stabilizer to fold up and nose dive into the ground in about .5 seconds making a smoking hole!!
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Structural failures happen to many homebuilts, not necessarily a fault of the original design. Also Reno they pushed harder than originally designed for.
@Triple_J.111 ай бұрын
The Ventures were pushing 360+ mph at 5,200'MSL at Reno. That is absurdly fast and ill-advised.
@joncox971911 ай бұрын
Well, someone didn't get the Memo!@@Triple_J.1
@AC-jk8wq11 ай бұрын
Seeing all of the design additions used to strengthen Mike Patey’s Turbulence…. Exceeding design speeds requires some pretty high engineering and build talent…. And piloting skill as well. 😃 And then you have a plane that isn’t like any other out there…. Very few at least. Racing at Reno… tough place to be for both the pilots and machines… extreme high g compared to the ordinary general aviation world…
@jcarne10154 ай бұрын
I worked for a “builder assistance center” for a while, building Ventures. Never got to fly one though.
@dieselscience3 ай бұрын
Were you in Greensboro?
@jcarne10153 ай бұрын
@@dieselscience No, Hahn’s facility in FL. Didn’t last, personality conflicts…
@blancolirio11 ай бұрын
Don’t see to many of these around any more. Most have been crashed. Primarily on landing.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
"Most?" Out of all built?
@beaforest73534 ай бұрын
The problem was a faulty main gear oleo struts design and the nose wheel shimmy. Both of these problems are now solved.
@tuckertucker13 ай бұрын
Such a well done video. Good job, thank you.
@aircraftadventures-vids3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Coldwarrior778111 ай бұрын
Looks like a blast.
@EnriqueMartinez-tn2qw8 ай бұрын
I love this aircraft, thank you for share the best content. I'd like more the Glasair 3 and Lancair IV-P
@clarencehopkins78329 ай бұрын
Excellent stuff bro
@aircraftadventures-vids9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@desertskyАй бұрын
QuestAir Venture calls in from Newhall and says he's inbound. He comes over the hill about 1500 AGL' at 300kts and immediately T-bones a Citabria doing a pipeline check.. 4 people killed. In the year 2000, San Fernando Valley.
@davidbrattain1446Ай бұрын
I'll bet the cross-wind landings are a lot of fun.
@aircraftadventures-vidsАй бұрын
So I spoke to some owners and they claim it's not a big deal - the play in the gear struts helps keep it centered, as they explained it.
@taproom11311 ай бұрын
Looked into one years back. Investigated putting a PT-6 on it. Passed on the project, though it still tickles my fancy ... ^v^
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Yikes, that would have been absolutely bonkers!! Maybe best you didn't lol
@taproom11311 ай бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids Copy that ... would have been a hoot, though! I intended to make an aircraft like Mike Patey's 'Turbulence' ... and like Mike's, the redesign required to make the Venture handle the PT-6 was just too extensive. So, I went with a clean sheet of paper, tandem design instead. Still, the Swearingen SX-300 and this later, simpler Venture were good efforts. The military was interested in the Turboprop version of the SX-300, but during a demo flight for the military, the prototype shed its wings ... game over. ^v^
@tetttettamilli67619 ай бұрын
Very interesting burd. Excellent video.
@aircraftadventures-vids9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@leovolont3 ай бұрын
Yeah, perhaps what made Cessna 150s and Piper Cherokees so popular in General Aviation was that you didn't have to take 10 years building them in your garage. Heck, I hate it when I have to build an office chair that I have to buy in a box.
@georgecharleston853211 ай бұрын
I saw one ground loop at Reno, after one shed a wing! In the same race.
@peteinwisconsin249610 ай бұрын
The Venture project ended when Henry Booley and Questair's owner were on a trip and suffered and engine failure at 12,500 feet, in VFR conditions, right over the Des Moines, IA airport. From 12,500 MSL and right over the field they could not make it in and both perished in the crash landing. The Venture was really fast, in part because the wing loading was so high, but that makes it unsafe during a dead stick landing-- as Booley and the company owner demonstrated. Efforts to sell the company went no where and that was the end of it.
@lauriejones319811 ай бұрын
I guarantee the Venture will develop a history of landing and takeoff incidents with that retractable gear. It is very narrow and will be diabolical in any decent crosswind. I wonder about spin characteristics too.
@kruck9611 ай бұрын
I guarantee you have no idea what you are talking about and are wrong.
@trueairspeed13011 ай бұрын
Spin is ok from what I have heard, but I agree with the landing issue or controllability on the ground.
@stevemccarty638411 ай бұрын
Wing down and top rudder in a cross wind and you'll be fine. Don't crab! @@kruck96
@Jay-Leigh86311 ай бұрын
Looking at that empenage group I'd say it's spin recovery would be excellent.
@craigwall953611 ай бұрын
Spin recovery issues are often related to the longitidinal mass distribution. As short as this airplane is, I really doubt it has that problem.
@julitosnijders36233 ай бұрын
Nice work.
@oilspill3214 ай бұрын
Very cool interesting story.
@cat637d3 ай бұрын
Actually it's Gorgeous
@Bass.Player11 ай бұрын
It sounds like a Warbird on those high speed flyby's...✈
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
It does a bit.
@xzqzq4 ай бұрын
Great video. Amusing that antics of aviation bar, which doubled the cost of GA airplanes, glossed over in video. Similar to documentary on Gulf Oil Spill which doesn't mention Obie even once.
@maxwellspeedwell25853 ай бұрын
I believe how fast it is. I clocked some left seat time. A very fine aircraft.
@superflashduke219711 ай бұрын
Lots of the story about the Venture is missing in this video. It was produced at one point in Connecticut with a turbo charged PMA engine. You can see one photo in the video with the red and silver 62V having a PMA sticker right behind to air vents for the turbo chargers. The owners of the engine and the owner of the airframe company where both killed in 4Q back in 1995. If this tragic event never happend we might have seen more production of this aircraft.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Lots? Well there's very little to go off of from Google, and certainly nothing on the PFM engine choice (which I found out here in the comments). Even then, several Questair owners filled me in with some more info before the video. I'll definitely consult with you before my next aviation video, lol.
@beaforest73534 ай бұрын
I had one of those PMA engine and one cylinder broke in half on t-o. There was a note on the engine saying 330 HP but my TAS was the same 240 kts compare to my stock IO-550-G. The accident: they were high over an airport when the engine quit. Also they were at 2500 lbs and the normal gross is 2000 lbs.
@milolouis6 ай бұрын
Great video well researched and thought out.
@aircraftadventures-vids6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@AviewFromUnder11 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this plane for the first time in kit planes magazine. It's looks have grown on me over the years, kinda like my wife, she's got all the curves, she's on the short side but wow those wings are a work of art! Though it still reminds me of a paper wasp dragging its legs behind and below as the gear is going in. I do miss the early days of fast low wing kits, there was a lot of creative fun fast sexy planes to dream about.
@aircraftadventures-vids11 ай бұрын
Lol, interesting comparison. Yea the 80s were filled with really cool and crazy looking homebuilts, it was somewhat of a new arena and many did not go beyond prototype either.
@haroldasraz11 ай бұрын
Amazing pocket rocket!!!
@someanonym381110 ай бұрын
Non-retractable gear Piper PA-128 parameters for comparison: Taking off, rotate at about 60 knots; Final approach speed 63 KIAS; Stall at max gross (2400) is 47 knots dirty. The Questair Venture can cruise at twice the cruising speed of the PA-28 (great stuff, abbsolutely), but would stall sooner at 60 knots. Does the stall speed tell that PA-28 is safer to fly despite its vintage parameters?