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Aircraft Adventures

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@PiercarloCiacchi
@PiercarloCiacchi 28 күн бұрын
12.05 That's me flying the Lockheed F104 in Rome for the 100th Anniversary of the Italian Air Force....lol...that was a nice surprise....
@globalinsanity2652
@globalinsanity2652 28 күн бұрын
I viewed your channel, and yes, you are a jet man...cool...
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 27 күн бұрын
Wow! And you're still alive! 😅😅
@Outrightpower
@Outrightpower 27 күн бұрын
100th anniversary. He didn't say it was HIS 100 year anniversary. Lacking some reading skills?? ​@@oxcart4172
@williamloh9018
@williamloh9018 27 күн бұрын
Lucky you...and thanks for the awesome videos from KSC. Miss it there. I am 6'7" so guess I don't fit. Dang.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
To his defense, I took it as "wow, you flew the F-104 and you're still alive!" (but maybe I'm wrong, lol)
@rudyjakma3664
@rudyjakma3664 29 күн бұрын
Actually I was captain on the SN601 Corvette. It was underpowered but a delight to fly I forgot how many hours I have on the Corvette. It was supremely well built. It was discontinued because Dassailt complained that the French state which owned Aerospatiale competed with the private Dassault. Aerospatiale got a contract for Falcon fuselage segments in compensation
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 29 күн бұрын
The French can do things well.
@jonmcfarmer6954
@jonmcfarmer6954 27 күн бұрын
@@rudyjakma3664 What airline may I ask?
@rudyjakma3664
@rudyjakma3664 26 күн бұрын
I was first F/O on the Corvette, operated by an executive jet charter operator "Jetstar Holland". Based at Rotterdam. O)f course, the aircraft used were Aerospatiale SN601 Corvette. After that I flew a Citation 500 as a captain. That company sold the Citation and I first flew a Learjet 25D in Nigeria. Then I became captain on a Corvette, owned by GPA (Guinness Peat Aviation). based at Shannon, Ireland. GPA was at the time the world's largest aircraft leasing company. The CEO was Dr. Tony Ryan, founder of Ryanair. The Corvette was not nearly as bad an aircraft as suggested in this blog. When launched, the engines that were intended were not available and the P&W JT15 was chosen. It lacked power and the original Corvette also lacked range. Tip tanks solved that at least partly, we could fly from Shannon to Palma de Mallorca. Air traffic was not nearly as dense as it is now, and I had devised a descend profile that extended the range by at least 150 NM. I was trained up by Capt. Robert Briot, an Aerospatiale engineering test pilot. Extremely skilled, he was involved with e.g. evaluating Concorde as well as the ATR 42. He only had one single type rating in his ATPL: "Tous aviaons - Any aircraft". I loved the Corvette.
@harlech2
@harlech2 27 күн бұрын
Man the CMC Leopard couldn't get a break. Pretty aircraft, nice lines,
@gdutfulkbhh7537
@gdutfulkbhh7537 26 күн бұрын
Back in the day, they used to make a big deal about the fact that Leopard was developed in AutoCAD... which never struck me as a great idea. Late 80s AutoCAD wasn't exactly sophisticated.
@richardschindler8822
@richardschindler8822 15 күн бұрын
As a retired corporate pilot, one who flew in the earlier times of corporate aviation, it was nice to see these aircraft again.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 15 күн бұрын
What did you fly? I have a friend who got his start flying Lear 24s, oh boy the stories he can tell!
@chezsnailez
@chezsnailez 6 күн бұрын
Give the plans to the Delorean designer team for another go 'round. maybe ad a bog seat and sink...
@iansolberg6228
@iansolberg6228 28 күн бұрын
0:22 who knew Saul Goodman worked on jet engines
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Lol!
@joshJ.
@joshJ. 27 күн бұрын
Is it him or just a look a like
@wes11bravo
@wes11bravo 26 күн бұрын
Definitely Saul after his Cinnabon gig.
@alexanderrahl482
@alexanderrahl482 25 күн бұрын
​@@wes11bravo🤣
@TheGryxter
@TheGryxter 25 күн бұрын
He was just posing as an engine mechanic in order to find a nice cozy spot to hide drugs.
@dessertfox3263
@dessertfox3263 27 күн бұрын
I rode in the NASA Jetstar a few times back in the 1970's while supporting the F-14 aileron/rudder interconnect and the High Speed Propeller programs. The pilots were Don Mallick and Tom McMurtry.
@Alex-of6yz
@Alex-of6yz 27 күн бұрын
i am student in an aeronautics school in france and we have a corvette for work on it ( the number 2 F-ZVMW)
@southernpilot
@southernpilot 28 күн бұрын
The Sabreliner was my first type rating in 1994. I flew many, many charters in it out of HOU until 1998.
@johnnyrocco
@johnnyrocco 28 күн бұрын
You just can't beat, The Sabreliner.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
Awesome! I always loved watching the Sabres while living next to DCA back in the 80s, one of my favorite types (after the GII of course)
@chrisanderson4799
@chrisanderson4799 27 күн бұрын
Same here but in 1999. Flew it till 2013 after logging 4,600 hrs in them
@TimLevitt
@TimLevitt 27 күн бұрын
​@@chrisanderson4799, no
@ronjones1077
@ronjones1077 28 күн бұрын
I was really interested in the Hansa jet when it first came out. I do remember the Douglas four engine jet as well. Both were beauties!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
I got a chance to see it n Munich this past summer. Man, the thing is big! (compared to a Lear anyways)
@BKD70
@BKD70 27 күн бұрын
I fueled up and then watched one of the last, if not the last, flying Hansa Jet in the USA crash, N604GA, on 11/30/2004. That whole operation was an accident looking for a place to happen... and it did, about an hour and a half later. Everyone on shift that night stood outside to watch the aircraft take off, because we all knew something was going to happen.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
I just read the accident report. Wow, what a complete s**t show
@globalinsanity2652
@globalinsanity2652 27 күн бұрын
testing 123
@higamerXD
@higamerXD 26 күн бұрын
​@aircraftadventures-vids there seem to be no video's about that crash, would you wana make one?
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 25 күн бұрын
@@higamerXD Crashes/ investigations are not really the focus of my channel, but I'm sure someone like Hoover from Pilot Debrief could cover something like that.
@BobanVagene
@BobanVagene 24 күн бұрын
I flew the Hansa Jet for Pelican Express out of Miami back in the early ‘90’s. Interesting design, but an absolute pig of a plane.
@johningram9081
@johningram9081 28 күн бұрын
My First PIC was in the Jetstar . Lasted about 18 months before working for a major carrier I spent 27 years as PIC of the 727.
@TerryMundy
@TerryMundy 28 күн бұрын
You were a pilot of my favorite plane ever!
@777jones
@777jones 27 күн бұрын
In other words you had a great career flying classic American jets! Well done sir.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Nice!
@johningram9081
@johningram9081 27 күн бұрын
@@777jones Thank you .
@leezinke4351
@leezinke4351 27 күн бұрын
That McDonnell plane in the beginning is so awesome looking! Looks like baby Dc-8/707.
@nchance1
@nchance1 28 күн бұрын
American Trans Air "ATA", had a Hansa Jet in the 90's. I also remember air cargo operator Grand Aire in Louisville, operated Hansa Jets in air cargo operations.
@SempreGumby
@SempreGumby 26 күн бұрын
I remember seeing the Hansa's on the Louisville UPS ramp at night in the 90's.
@nchance1
@nchance1 26 күн бұрын
@@SempreGumby Yep, Grand Aire flew Falcons and Hansa's for air cargo at that time. Those were the good old days
@rudyjakma3664
@rudyjakma3664 29 күн бұрын
I also flew Citation 500, 550, 650 and the Lesrjet 25D. The pocket rocket but it could drink fuel unless operated at least above FL 300 preferably above FL 400. It was also quite noisy, not welcome any more at most airports
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
welcome anywhere I saw it! I lived right next to DCA in the 80s and watching a 25 take off was a pleasure!
@colinboone9920
@colinboone9920 25 күн бұрын
Saw the McDonnell Douglas 119 at ELP a few weeks ago! What a treat!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 25 күн бұрын
I'd love to see it myself
@thunderamu9543
@thunderamu9543 28 күн бұрын
Great video on obscure aircraft! Well done research to explain why these jets did not proliferate!👍
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@richardfalconer1959
@richardfalconer1959 29 күн бұрын
The engineer in charge of the Leopard was Brian Cunnington who had worked for Marcos Cars and before that Lotus. I visited the works in the 80’s . All I remember was the rough accommodation and the fact that the tailplane was simply a reduced scale version of the main wing . Interesting that it was the non-availability of suitable engines which scuppered the project.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
The engine is sometimes the biggest bottleneck of any airframe.
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch 29 күн бұрын
I saw the Leopard demonstrated at the Farnborough Air Show, in 1988 I think. The engines were described as being intended for cruise missiles. As the commentator spoke about the aircraft's ability to operate from short runways the aircraft gave off a series of popping noises as it started its take-off run and proceeded to use the whole length of the runway to take off. Once airborne it was really impressive. Where most fast aircraft can be seen to mush round turns at a high angle of attack, the Leopard seemed buoyant in the air and took turns like a high-performance sailplane without any noticeable increase in angle of attack or loss of speed.
@southernpilot
@southernpilot 28 күн бұрын
This is fantastic! Thank you for producing it.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
Thank you! Means a lot 👍
@AlanTheBeast100
@AlanTheBeast100 28 күн бұрын
As a kid I'd see (most of) these a/c in Aviation Week which mercilessly compared all aircraft in class to its peers ... so no surprise that they didn't make the longer term cut. My father flew in an early Piaggio P.166 turboprop that was mentioned ... the test pilot was fond of doing aileron rolls at 100 feet above the sea ....
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
The base model P166 was piston-engined but they did produce some t-prop variants as well. Also another favorite of mine.
@AlanTheBeast100
@AlanTheBeast100 27 күн бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids As I recall it, the turboprop version was being proposed for some police or national police program. My father was there in marketing mode for some avionics that the end customer wanted. I can probably find his trip report for it ...
@IndaloMan
@IndaloMan 27 күн бұрын
40 years ago I used to fly all over Saudi Arabia in a Falcon 50 owned by Philips Telecommunications. Fab tri-jet and on several flights I was the only passenger. #goodolddays
@TheGryxter
@TheGryxter 25 күн бұрын
Back in 1989-1992 a Hansa Jet was hangered at the airport I worked at. She was a thirsty little pig, but flew very often. It was a business jet for a small manufacturing company, and it always struck me as extremely weird the way the wings swept forward. Unlike a Lear, you needed a ladder to fuel the tip tanks. Unless you used pressure refueling that is.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 24 күн бұрын
They were big too, for the engine size.
@edgarguinartlopez8341
@edgarguinartlopez8341 28 күн бұрын
As always, a very enjoyable video. These were years in which creativity ran wild in aeronautical design, in search of optimization; beautiful. Thanks for bringing us a bit of history ;)
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Hey, thanks for the kind feedback! If I had a time machine, it would drop my right next to an airport in the 50s for sure.
@mikepowell2776
@mikepowell2776 26 күн бұрын
The other CM Leopard is at the Bournemouth Aviation Museum, Dorset, UK.
@kriswiddison1698
@kriswiddison1698 28 күн бұрын
When I was in the Air Force at Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque in 1970 a McDonnell 119 was sitting on the ramp at ABQ already derelict.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 23 күн бұрын
“a 119”? it was the only one ever built!
@machpodfan
@machpodfan 27 күн бұрын
That Model 119 was like a dwarf Convair 880. Maybe impractical, but such a sweet looker.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
It sure did, and agree
@bensmith7536
@bensmith7536 26 күн бұрын
this channel is fascinating, cant stop watching the episodes. Bravo.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
Thank you! Means a lot, and I guess I'll need to work harder to get more videos out! (you'll run out pretty soon)
@flymachine
@flymachine 28 күн бұрын
I really need to get a life, I know all of these very well. 😢 Then again biz jets is my business. Imagining a time when 4 jet engines made sense for a businessman.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
You and me, both, lol.
@jonmcfarmer6954
@jonmcfarmer6954 27 күн бұрын
Of course I know the Corvette. I used to work for a company who had 2 of them!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Corvette hoarders! lol. That's cool!
@jonmcfarmer6954
@jonmcfarmer6954 27 күн бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids Pretty good aircraft the 601 but didn't like to go slow.
@jakoot733
@jakoot733 27 күн бұрын
A fun and interesting idea that I was always intrigued with was a Soviet one back in the 80’s. Essentially the Mikoyan Gurevich design bureau had an idea to turn its Mach 3.2 interceptor the MiG-25, into a business jet. Its fuselage would have been lengthened and I’m not aware if newer more fuel efficient engines would’ve have been chosen, not that the government cared anyway as it only stayed as an abstract concept. It’s definitely a lot different than what was shown in this video but Its a cool idea to play with especially with the sheer speed of the MiG-25. It would be like a Concorde but smaller and faster, and definitely more expensive to operate.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
I would have loved to see that brought to fruition
@MarcPagan
@MarcPagan 27 күн бұрын
Great stuff, from a former airline pilot and current CFI. Didn't a similar video on "bad' or discontinued turbo-props in your library. Ex - The Beechcraft Starship Would be another fun video.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! I'm always gathering up new ides. Hang tight, my next video (tentatively in 2 weeks) will be absolutely bonkers. But t-props are awesome too, love the idea.
@arnoldmayii3563
@arnoldmayii3563 28 күн бұрын
Imagine having that Model 119 with some B-58 Hustlers engines. 😁😁
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 28 күн бұрын
ZZZZ00000000MMMMM!!!!1
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, it would have a range of 50 miles.
@Ricky40369
@Ricky40369 28 күн бұрын
The description of the Falcon's engines as hair dryers sounds very much like the description I heard from One pilot about the A340.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Falcon? you mean the Leopard?
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 17 күн бұрын
That Hansa jet is just spectacular (visually, anyway). What a beauty.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 16 күн бұрын
Agree! And huge also (saw in person)
@dannyphantom1232
@dannyphantom1232 28 күн бұрын
Killed it with the video as always 🔥👏🏻
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, bud!
@Markomyt1
@Markomyt1 26 күн бұрын
Great information I didn't know I needed... Thank you!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LittleManFlying
@LittleManFlying 28 күн бұрын
I appreciate that you caught the Hansa. I got to look at one up close ages ago at the New Bedford airport. What a unique machine!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
The thing is huge! (at least when you account for the small jets)
@adamsteinmetz3223
@adamsteinmetz3223 25 күн бұрын
Forget cool planes funny planes are where its at
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 28 күн бұрын
I need to head back to Pima air museum. They have most of these
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
I'd love to check that out too
@vk1pe
@vk1pe 29 күн бұрын
Today, in Australia, I saw an Eclipse 500 (EA50) at Moruya airport. N465DG looking good, and far from home.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
Wonder how many stops to get there? They did not have great range, from what i recall.
@Louisrockefeller
@Louisrockefeller 18 күн бұрын
My grandfather owned a jetstar and a sabreliner. Loved them both, but said nothing compared to the jetstar.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 17 күн бұрын
Especially the fuel burn! Seriously through, it's probably the sexiest business jet ever made
@gendaminoru3195
@gendaminoru3195 28 күн бұрын
22MS!!!!! I had a few rides in that lawn dart. Knew the capt too as we worked for the same 121 airline.
@randym7511
@randym7511 28 күн бұрын
Very informative and very well presented. Thank you, sir!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for watching!
@patrickwebster3318
@patrickwebster3318 29 күн бұрын
Love the leopard!!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
Hell yeah, I first spotted in my trusty old Jane's big book back in the 80s.
@thomasbalivet1057
@thomasbalivet1057 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for this nice documentary, i find the leopard an absolutely amazing and beautiful little jet!
@MiscDotGeek
@MiscDotGeek 29 күн бұрын
Good stuff! That poor Hansa jet though... ouch!
@Thomas..Anderson
@Thomas..Anderson 27 күн бұрын
0:32 McDonalds 119 2:50 Aerospatiale Corvette 5:08 Piaggio PD.808 9:05 CMC Leopard 10:52 HFB Hansa Jet
@MarcPagan
@MarcPagan 27 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@dfolt
@dfolt 21 күн бұрын
This is a very well researched film, very nicely presented and illustrated, and despite a broad knowlege about aviation, I have to admit two of the types were new to me. So thank you for the enlightenment!
@RichardCollins-z4h
@RichardCollins-z4h 28 күн бұрын
I have seen the CMC Leopard in real life at the museum, its one cool looking plane, It kind of reminds you of a mini concorde and the interior looks very stylish and comfortable.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
It might be comfortable, but for relatively short flights I would think.
@transit130
@transit130 27 күн бұрын
I recently saw the one Leopard (G-BKRL) at Bournemouth Aviation Musem and the second (G-BRNM) at Midland Air Museum, smart little plane.
@propman3523
@propman3523 26 күн бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@THELIFEOFPRICE
@THELIFEOFPRICE 25 күн бұрын
Amazing video, I didnt know about these and I definitely consider myself an aviation buff =D
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@karlbassett8485
@karlbassett8485 29 күн бұрын
Aerospatiale was not "the company behind Concorde". The project and the initial R+D were British, mainly by BAC, now part of BAe. The UK wanted a partner to share the cost so Sud Aviation of France came on board. This ended up saving Concord as the Labour government and minister Tony Benn tried to cancel the project but the contract with France made that impossible.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 29 күн бұрын
I don't accept that "the project and initial R & D were British."
@bfc3057
@bfc3057 28 күн бұрын
That's not true about the initial work
@joshuauriarte452
@joshuauriarte452 27 күн бұрын
And once Aérospatiale shut down, Airbus took over supplying parts for the Concord.
@karlbassett8485
@karlbassett8485 26 күн бұрын
@@bfc3057 Afraid it is.
@karlbassett8485
@karlbassett8485 26 күн бұрын
@@anthonyxuereb792 It's still a fact. The UK RAE developed the delta wing that was key for a civil supersonic airliner, with some German engineers recruited after the war, the same project that sent Werner Von Braun to NASA. Plus of course the engines were British. The British lead in aerodynamics and wing design carried on to Airbus, which explains why to this day all Airbus wings are made in the UK.
@hanskarlsson525
@hanskarlsson525 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, really enjoyed it.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TerryMundy
@TerryMundy 28 күн бұрын
For business jets i favored the Learjet because my grandmother worked there back in the 60's. Nowadays i like the Cessna Citation or Hondajet.
@youngblood2
@youngblood2 27 күн бұрын
I worked at the Learjet Wichita facility in the Customer Service building in the Spare Parts Department from 1980 through 2008.
@arh7644
@arh7644 Күн бұрын
I saw a leopard at Bournemouth Aviation Museum it's tiny but must be a delight to fly
@FastAsFunk
@FastAsFunk 28 күн бұрын
I immediately recognised the Hansajet in the still at the end of the video. D-CASY failed to rotate while attempting takeoff at my local airport at Blackpool in Lancashire, England. It went off the end of the runway and crashed into a holiday park, resulting in loss of life. The reason was a failure to remove the gust locks from the elevator. PIC clearly didn't make a FaF check.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Damn!
@bradalgra8088
@bradalgra8088 29 күн бұрын
Great video Richard! keep it up.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
Thanks, Brad!
@TheWoodFly
@TheWoodFly 27 күн бұрын
I flew the 731 JetStar and it was an awesome airplane. Yes 4 engines (Garrett 3,700# ea) to do MX on, but 2/3 the cabin and only 1/2 the fuel burn of a Gulfstream II. Really solid on the controls.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
I think they're one of the best looking executive jets. Hard to beat a GII though (part of that opinion is biased, my old man worked for Gulfstream in the 70s)
@TheWoodFly
@TheWoodFly 27 күн бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids I flew the GII and III- I liken it to the F4: LOTS of power, rattle the windows for miles around and just GOES!!! But not cheap to operate.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
@@TheWoodFly I bet it wasn't. While living in DC, my best memory was the Coast Guard GII taking off. Unlike other private GIIs, the CG plane didn't have hushkits and it was positively the loudest plane departing DCA (even louder than 727s). Obviously, noise doesn't pay the bills and today's Gulfstreams are quiet like a mouse. But what a time it was...
@TheWoodFly
@TheWoodFly 27 күн бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids Well, we didn't have afterburners like the F4, but it was loud. We were the launch customer for a company making the first gen of the hush kits so I flew both. They said it made us quieter - all I cared was that we were still legal (for a little while anyway).
@jamesstuart3346
@jamesstuart3346 28 күн бұрын
Awesome! 😊
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Thanks! 😄
@jcjammer1
@jcjammer1 20 күн бұрын
Great video, I want to watch this again later on the big TV😂👍
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 20 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! thanks
@dougball328
@dougball328 27 күн бұрын
With a sweep of 35 degrees I can assure you that the wing had no laminar flow. Crossflow instabilities would cause transition.
@warmfreeze
@warmfreeze 27 күн бұрын
@11:01 i am standing inside that building behind the lear jet right now..
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
That's cool! Should have waved for the video, lol
@gaetanperrier74
@gaetanperrier74 26 күн бұрын
Nice to discover these . You may have considered the Morane Paris which was a very nice one
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
Yes! I'm putting together another list for a future video, the Paris is in it.
@bbat2159
@bbat2159 29 күн бұрын
There were 56 Hansa jets built.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
I stand corrected. And glad I saw one of them!
@TheGryxter
@TheGryxter 25 күн бұрын
According to Google....between 45-47. Whatever the number that had to be a big financial loss.
@JetKeene1
@JetKeene1 26 күн бұрын
The engine mounting system of the PD.808 looks like a fighter plane. The reduced surface area of the fuselage would have reduced aerodynamic drag, cut down on material costs, and lightened the weight. Why didn't Hansa Jet adopt the low wing system? The forward wing seems to be less stable in the roll direction. It was fun to see so many bizjets I didn't know about. Thank you.👍👍👍
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comments! And agree, the 808 sure does look like a fighter jet.
@homerg2724
@homerg2724 27 күн бұрын
Awesome video👌🏻
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Thanks 😁
@airtylerb
@airtylerb 22 күн бұрын
1:36 I actually went to that A&P school and worked with that engine, it’s fickle, but when she goes, she goes!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 22 күн бұрын
Bottlerocket!
@keeganmccray5856
@keeganmccray5856 4 күн бұрын
Lucky man! What a&p school did you go to if you mind me asking?
@airtylerb
@airtylerb 4 күн бұрын
@ Tulsa Technology
@DPR5
@DPR5 18 күн бұрын
Excellent video!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 18 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@oldergeologist
@oldergeologist 28 күн бұрын
Good presentation.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@pgh-h4f
@pgh-h4f 28 күн бұрын
What a great find this chanel is!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
Welcome aboard!!
@marcuscoquer5958
@marcuscoquer5958 17 күн бұрын
I know next to nothing of jet planes, I would go as far as to say that I am uninterested in them, or I might have before I saw this video. Liked Subscribed
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 16 күн бұрын
Thank you! Glad to help!
@banhof2223
@banhof2223 27 күн бұрын
SAAB 105 was also intended as business jet. However, the SAAB 105 military version SK60D had four seats.
@ordo3k4os
@ordo3k4os 27 күн бұрын
As far i know the main issues for Piaggio 808 were not the viper. engines because those are the same of aermacchi 339 that fly to these day, the main problem was new rules about safety and the lack of a de icing system
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Got it. I agree probably was not the main issue - the Bae 125 flew with them just fine for a while too.
@joshua8314
@joshua8314 27 күн бұрын
I've seen the 220 in person. It's an awesome little bird.
@AlexSandroRocha-l8w
@AlexSandroRocha-l8w 29 күн бұрын
Show, thanks Richard.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! Abraço
@NathanWibe
@NathanWibe 25 күн бұрын
I’d say the most peculiar business jet was the Russian made Mig YE-155 a business jet take on the MiG 25
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 25 күн бұрын
Imagine that thing at NBAA!
@I.J.1981.
@I.J.1981. 21 күн бұрын
I never knew Bob Odenkirk was also an Aircraft Engineer.
@Tbraaaa
@Tbraaaa 4 күн бұрын
Different vocal tamber
@bigtaxrefund
@bigtaxrefund 27 күн бұрын
at 13:07 you can see the original airport in trinidad with a BWIA MD-82 parked in front the terminal
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
good eye you got there!
@bigtaxrefund
@bigtaxrefund 27 күн бұрын
i am a pilot from trinidad. i know the background in the video. that terminal doesnt exist anymore. the new airport is on the opposite side of the runway now
@noelthegreat2543
@noelthegreat2543 29 күн бұрын
9:22 the tiny “my name” penny NPT 301
@billyjack3361
@billyjack3361 28 күн бұрын
The Learjet 60 has a cabin height of 69”. Not about 49” as stated.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
I didn't mention the 60...i was talking about the 23-25 series.
@anthonynarozniak9725
@anthonynarozniak9725 26 күн бұрын
TWA used the Lockheed Jetstar-6 for pilot training.....
@jamesstephenpeyton3305
@jamesstephenpeyton3305 29 күн бұрын
An outfit I flew for in Toronto had a Hansa. Never really saw much work.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 29 күн бұрын
question is, how do wind up with a Hansa?
@robertgeorge4064
@robertgeorge4064 29 күн бұрын
Hansa crashed and destroyed @ KSUS about 10 years ago.. Take off in ice conditions. Went into the Missouri River.
@hughmarloweverest1684
@hughmarloweverest1684 29 күн бұрын
Thank you
@sparkycjb
@sparkycjb 26 күн бұрын
Douglas/Piaggio looks like they tried to use the Skynight's cockpit and modify it to work on a bizJet.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
I can see that too!
@jetaddicted
@jetaddicted 28 күн бұрын
The first business jet wasn’t the McDonnell 119 but the Morane Saulnier 760.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
I know about the 760 and I have it lined up for another video at a later time. I guess it depends on how you define it - the 760 was defined as a military "liason" aircraft, but I suppose technically it could have been used as a business jet.
@Riverdeepnwide
@Riverdeepnwide 26 күн бұрын
5:30 Holy smokes, it's Lefty Tucker!
@davidbaldwin1591
@davidbaldwin1591 26 күн бұрын
6:05 I wonder if marketing spotted that big "SOS" looking number set on the outside.
@ioannisdamianos4716
@ioannisdamianos4716 27 күн бұрын
Misspellings in the subtitles grate!!!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Yeah I was spell-checking the subtitles but ran out of time to go through all of it.
@globalinsanity2652
@globalinsanity2652 27 күн бұрын
testing 1,2,3...
@mattwilliams3456
@mattwilliams3456 27 күн бұрын
While not a business jet, but as a VIP transport it would be the military equivalent, for oddball check out the UA-3B version of the Douglas Skywarrior. A carrier based strategic nuclear bomber, and still the heaviest aircraft assigned regular carrier duty which earned the The Whale as a nickname, 2 were converted to transports.
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 29 күн бұрын
The Leopard's automoblie-style, practically flat windshield with sharp "a" columns must have been a major source of drag and unsteady airflow into its engine inlets. The ultimate "car-like" private jet, with "car-like" appearance. But airplanes are not cars. They look different for a reason.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
interesting, didn't think of that. Maybe would cause buffeting at high speeds??
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 28 күн бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids Most likely, yes.
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus 28 күн бұрын
My first thought looking at it was about how much noise the air would make going around those square corners.
@joshuauriarte452
@joshuauriarte452 27 күн бұрын
The Leopard jet would do great today.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
I don't think so. Cirrus has a great formula and as close to a personal jet as you'll get. Don't think there's much room for competition in that tiny market. Still, the Leopard looks really cool.
@Darren4352
@Darren4352 27 күн бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't add the D-Jet to this list. Diamond could have had a real winner.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Trust me, just 5 jets doesn't even closely cover the gamut of planes I could include. Expect a "volume 2" in the future, and I can drop the D-jet in there too.
@Darren4352
@Darren4352 27 күн бұрын
@@aircraftadventures-vids Looking forward to it!
@MikeWhiskey427
@MikeWhiskey427 27 күн бұрын
I remember a Hansa on the ramp in 79 and saw some freighter Corvettes briefly. Always thought the JetStars with the 731s looked sweet. Falcons were hard to beat.. Sabreliners fuel vents hanging was a pain in the aft tank, especially if you didnt notice.... Kalitta had some cool, ragged OLD corp birds for feeders, most with questionable airworthiness.
@Activated_Complex
@Activated_Complex 5 күн бұрын
2:31 "Do you want this squat, dumpy 220 holding its engines like grocery bags? Or this French beauty the Falcon 20?" (wolf whistle)
@natedetailscars
@natedetailscars 15 күн бұрын
The leopard: for the man who wants to feel like a Tomahawk cruise missile
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 14 күн бұрын
I like the analogy
@sloopjb5359
@sloopjb5359 26 күн бұрын
0:22 Thats Saul Goodman undercover
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
We've outted him!
@jamesgresham2030
@jamesgresham2030 27 күн бұрын
Just outside Brisbane, for years, there was a tiny jet up on a pole. It was a Fox Jet. I have no idea how it got there or what happened to it. Beautiful looking little plane though. I flew Lears for a while. fun aircraft but you take off in a fuel emergency.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
I read a biography on a Lear 25 pilot, guy's a friend of mine. I highly recommend his book "Learjet Diaries", talks about the golden days of flying early Lears on charter flights.
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk 26 күн бұрын
Not bad .... BADASS !!
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 26 күн бұрын
🤘
@beverlychmelik5504
@beverlychmelik5504 28 күн бұрын
Douglas might have sold jets to the Navy if it was carrier capable. From the design it sure looked like that was part of the thought process, esp with the A4 landing gear.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
Yeah come to think of it, I see other A4 cues too, especially the shape of the intakes.
@marchinrichs9658
@marchinrichs9658 28 күн бұрын
There ist still one Hansa Jet arround: Engineers at Lufthansa Technik still have one of them & keep this thing airworthy. Maybe the last one
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 28 күн бұрын
No way, really? But do they actually fly it? I can't imagine what it takes to keep a unique model flying.
@acm_1985
@acm_1985 27 күн бұрын
Sadly, no. There was an association called "Ein HANSAJET für HAMBURG e.V." , and some engineers from both Lufthansa Technik and Airbus Hamburg where members of that association. But Lufthansa itself never was. Ex- Luftwaffe Hansajet MSN 1025 LN S-5 with previous registration 16+08 was purchased from Deutsche Luftwaffe in 2007. It was to be restored to airworthy condition and good progress was made, but project stalled with this worldwide p4ndemic and economic downturn. Aircraft was sold to "Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin" for display, association disbanded.
@AntonioCarlosDeBiasi
@AntonioCarlosDeBiasi 28 күн бұрын
There are two HFB 320 in flying condition. PT-IOB, PT-IDW. In BRAZIL. Check them out. I myself flew both of them. The IOB has a - 9 engine and IDW has a - 7.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 27 күн бұрын
Serio? Mas estão voando ativamente ainda??
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