Young Earth Creationist FAILS Miserably

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Creation Today Ministries thinks that they have proof for a Young Earth. Unfortunately it doesn't go the way they think it will. Let's see what they've got shall we...
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[@ceejay0137]

Young Earth Creationists: misunderstanding science for 6,000 years.

[@archivist17]

😆😆😆🤪😆

[@shaneeslick]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 & the Bible

[@shaneeslick]

@Nic B 🤔I wonder if on the 7th we had the first use of intelligent people replying to their STOOPIDITY with "I wasn't born Yesterday"

[@csimet]

Reply of the day!

[@barrycole5930]

I wonder if 6000 years ago people were claiming the earth was created yesterday, and their parents who had been around for many years and had to birth that fool were just like, sure it was son….sure it was…

[@stella.r2708]

All his questions can be answered with one simple explanation: Geological history is not static, the Earth is a dynamic system that is constantly in motion. Hence, it is constantly changing

[@VariantAEC]

The other thing not static about geological history... our understanding of geological timeframes and the amount of time it takes for things to happen. Regardless there would need to be catastrophic revelations in geology to explain a 6,000 year old Earth. Even so as many Christians have stated already, they claim the Bible does not provide an age for the Earth. We don't have to bicker about the minutiae, we know Eric is very wrong.

[@Appletank8]

also, rock and stone are both being created and destroyed from older rocks

[@robertoschirmer5530]

Why did I read this with the voice of Prof. Dave? 😂

[@DaxSass]

A simpler explanation: lack of education with critical thinking process. The new religious problem is coupling stupidity with cherry picked tidbits of science. It used to be just faith but they started loosing that because, well, how many endtimes have come and gone now, lol?

[@smartawesome376]

The amount of times he forgets that not everything was formed at the very beginning of the earth is mind-blowing to me. Diamonds and rock arches both formed after the earth

[@NeoRipshaft]

This is about on the level of "well if there's people breathing for like thousands of years, why is there still oxygen!?" I feel like these people need handlers to not be a danger to themselves or others.

[@evilannie8884]

Unfortunately this is an example of the death throes in religion. The old ones cannot be persuaded by science or logic or evidence. The young ones still have enough critical thinking skills to doubt. Yet they so desperately want to believe, a result is peoppe desperately trying to have SOMETHING they can use to support their beliefs. This is why were seeing a mass exodus of religion around the world. It doesnt hold up to the science we do know, and continues to be disproven further and further as we learn more science. All religion will have left are the elderly and those who don't have critical thinking skills.

[@capusvacans]

If ppl and animals have been farting for millions of years, why isn't the atmosphere made up of farts?

[@NeoRipshaft]

@@capusvacans ooh nice one 😁

[@Mars-ev7qg]

Indeed, these people are very much a danger to others. Many creationists took part in the January 6th attack on the capital. Of course, not everyone who stormed the capital was a creationist, and there were definitely creationists who openly and genuinely condemned the actions of Trump and the January 6th mob, but I'll bet creationists were well over represented among known January 6th rioters. The problem is that creationism is a conspiracy theory, and once you believe one conspiracy, it's easy to believe more. For example, if you believe the Smithsonian is hiding evidence that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, it would be easy to also believe the 2020 election was stolen and lots of other right-wing fake news.

[@ivanivonovich9863]

One of these fools once claimed that if life had been here for more than 6,000 years, we would have used up all the water already... He doesn't understand the Hydro-cycle...

[@antonipoblocki]

I love the rock arch erosion logic. "If a car goes from point A to point B in a hour, how can there be cars on the road after 2h?"

[@janhansen554]

Very good one, lol

[@Patrik6920]

..mind boggling ...😁😁😁😁

[@florians9949]

I love how his entier argument can be debunct by just saying “new one can form”.

[@2511jeremy]

Ignorant evolutionists be like dude nothing can blow up and when this nothing blows up it creats life duh

[@stuartmcconnachie]

Yeah, but it’s always the same argument with the biblical literalists. If you can’t actually SEE it in real time (evolution, erosion, expansion of the universe, etc) then it can’t possibly be happening that way because it conflicts with my holy book.

[@JCG52577]

“I either don’t understand the information or I don’t know the information. So it can’t be true.” This is the underlying basis for all their arguments.

[@TARINunit9]

Which gets really depressing when they start applying it to socioeconomic politics

[@2511jeremy]

Evolutionists be like nothing can blow up bro and when this nothing blows up it creates life bro like i have 3 stds but theres no way there is a god

[@TARINunit9]

@Trevor Brannon The "Acasta Gneiss" is a rock from Canada that scientists have proven without a shadow of a doubt is 4.03 billion years old, so that gives us a pretty good baseline

[@TARINunit9]

@Trevor Brannon OK speaking as a Christian you're being a moron. Young Earthism relies on taking the Bible to such a literal degree it relies on treating pretty much everything else as an evil conspiracy (never forget: the Bible was penned by fallible humans, and humans are notorious for garbling messages. Throw in the fact the Book of Job is OLDER than Genesis, and I'm not going to take Genesis as strict historical fact). As for how they can prove it? Potasium-40 dating and Rubidium-87 dating. The half life of Rubidium-87 is 49 billion years, so measuring the ratio of rubidium in rock samples (of which there is a lot, it's about as common as zinc) lets is know how old they are, and this method will remain reliable for roughly a trillion years

[@Ragingknight12]

@Trevor Brannon Dude just say you don't understand, because NOBODY has provided any evidence Cain and Abel existed outside of the bible or "dead sea scrolls" until someone can find ADAM AND EVES Gravesite and prove it with concrete irrifutble evidence itll be true, oh also when Jesus got crucified the romans had records about all that crap, last I checked a guy named Jesus was never at all in those documents, so either jesus went' by a different name, or he flat out did not exist.

[@TheMarchRooster]

Like all of these types of people, his entire belief system is built on: 1) "It doesn't make sense." 2) Using science incorrectly and saying "Then how come...."

[@richardcox4413]

As a geologist and geochronologist (and nominally a Christian I may add), this just irritates me beyond belief. The so-called facts that the creationist states are wrong through and through. All radioactive (parent) isotopes decay exponentially, and therefore can never reach zero in any mineral. Even 14C , which has a half-life of 5730 years, will never reach zero content. Dan mentions K-Ar, but we have U-Pb which is much more reliable for studies of deep time. IN U-Pb dating We have two long-lived, radioactive isotopes (238U and 235U) which decay at different rates to give two separate isotopes of Pb (238U -> 206Pb and 235U -> 207Pb). Minerals such as zircon and monazite have high-U contents (hundreds of ppm to wt% levels) and contain no initial Pb to begin with. Therefore, all of the Pb present in these minerals is due to radioactive decay. Thus, we have two radiometric dating "clocks" in a single mineral. The oldest zircons dated on Earth are 4.404 billion years old. These are detrital zircons, i.e. grains of sand, from the Jack Hills formation in Western Australia. The oldest rock dated on Earth is the Acasta gneiss, NWT, Canada which is 4.031 billion years old. We also have ages of lunar anorthosites that are about 4.3 to 4.4 billion years old, and chondritic meteorites have been dated at 4.567 billion years old, which are the oldest objects in the solar system. In short, the Solar System is about 4.6 billion years old.

[@nickNcar]

What is nominally christian?

[@Leonitus485]

Yeah you lost me at geologist. Hahaha

[@SGW4K]

​@@nickNcarNon-practising Christian I believe..

[@alkristopher]

I only understood 1/3 or so of that, but hearing similar arguments from various other sources helps with the validity. Isn't it just hilarious how people who say "carbon/radiometric dating is flawed" have no idea how that dating system works?

[@fossilfishleg9188]

He says we’ve lost half a billion years of rock, but the world is only about 6000 years old. There’s a lot of fools out there.

[@sarasmith6707]

He means half a billion if you were believing what science says about how old the layers are

[@cornellkirk8946]

@@sarasmith6707 so how does he explain the radiometric dating which can go back 100,000 years? 🤔

[@ljfinger]

​​@@cornellkirk8946 Isochron dating can go back billions of years.

[@ceebee]

In all fairness he said "half a billion years of geologic years". Implying "years inferred from geology as geologists would calculate it".

[@HalfEye79]

One thing he missed completely: Where does the eroded matter go? It doesn't simply vanish. It would settle down somwhere else.

[@blampfno]

People will sometimes go to extraordinary lengths to demonstrate their ignorance.

[@ross-carlson]

And don't forget the huge amount of mental gymnastics necessary to justify the absurdity of the belief in their "god(s)".

[@spiderzvow1]

i mean yeah. Trump became president.

[@mutt203]

Reminds me of a recent post by McToon, featured a flerf who spent 2 bucks on a superchat to show he doesn't understand how math works(it was about spherical excess)

[@waitwhat7724]

Narcissists will go to extraordinary lengths in order to get some attention. Ignore what they say or do, it's attention they want/ crave/ need.

[@waitwhat7724]

@@beemixsy the hovids are like the ickes, sociopaths!

[@user-qn3rj3uy9g]

This is interesting. A Christian relative tried to debate with me at a family Thanksgiving dinner about creation and he said that the Earth is 6000 years old. I asked him why certain geological features of our earth are older than 6000 years old, and he said that when God created the earth, he made some things look older than they were. So I asked him how can he be sure that creation began 6000 years old and not 5 minutes ago, and he didn't have an answer

[@user-mb8wq3kr6i]

To answer your question, as a Christian, the reason why we calculate to 6,000 years and not 5 minutes is because if you were to add up all the years in the genealogy from Adam to Abraham is 2000 years, then Abraham to Jesus is another 2000 years and Jesus then to today is another 2000 which adds up to 6,000 years. I believe the young earth theory is very silly, and believe the science behind the age of everything, BUT I do believe God’s plan for mankind is 7000 years. So not saying the earth is 6,000 years old, I’m saying I believe mankind has been around for 6,000 years, but I’m gonna bet you don’t believe that. That’s just what I believe. So that is the answer as to what your relative should have probably answered during your thanksgiving dinner. Good question btw.

[@Whatisityouknow]

@@user-mb8wq3kr6i thats innacurate the geneaologies dont teach that also not to mention the Days can be taken as periods because the word used yom can mean a period + Adam was not the first human

[@roytee3127]

​@user-mb8wq3kr6i If God is omnipotent and could have created fossils, etc. to make the Earth appear order, then He could have created all of human history - including the Bible - five minutes ago, and we'd never know. That's absurd, of course. But so is the notion that the Earth and the plants and animals existed for hundreds of millions of years and humans suddenly appeared 6000 years ago. One would have to assert that the first six days in Genesis 1 lasted millions of our years, while He created humans only in the very last instant on the sixth day. It's much more likely that those genealogies are fictitious or highly incomplete.

[@theknightradiant2]

As a Christian, these people are SO EMBARRASSING. There is literally no point in having this argument. For people seemingly looking for the truth, they are working backwards. They have an idea and look for evidence to support it when it should be the other way around. They seem to take it as if discerning the nature of our reality is a direct attack against their beliefs. If so, those beliefs should change because they are false. A friend of mine worded this beautifully and I have to use her exact words as to why faith and science DO NOT NEED TO BE at odds with each other. And should not be: "Science tells us the how, faith tells us the why." Or, in other words, science can tell us the nature of creation, and faith tells us the nature of the creator. Because, listen. You do not have to believe in what I do. But, I do want to make clear that these people who claim you can't be religious and believe in science or something to that nature, are simply wrong. They make it seem as if there are only two types of people out there: religious and ignore science or non-religious and accept science. "Oh, but the Bible says--" It's the BIBLE. It's not a scientific text nor was ever meant to be! It is a RELIGIOUS text.

[@SGW4K]

Absolutely 👍

[@user-uf4dj8ix7e]

Love the comment ❤

[@paullefevre8684]

Well, thank you for being somewhat sensible. Bravo. I have to disagree, though, that "Science tells us the how, faith tells us the why." I would posit that faith doesn't TELL us anything. It's a license to believe things without evidence. A quick look at the massive variation (contradictory to boot) in what people have "faith" in informs us of that. Yes, "faith" may give, to some people, hope and comfort. I personally don't really understand that (why does believing in things without evidence "comfort" anyone?), but if that's the case, great. Enjoy the hope and comfort that unsubstantiated belief gives you. I'll stick to what can be shown true, and not just believe something 'cause it makes me feel good.

[@Justanotherandy63]

I love how people think that not understanding something is an argument against it!

[@Justanotherandy63]

@Trevor Brannon Thank you for proving my point.

[@Justanotherandy63]

@Trevor Brannon I will say this once, then ignore every silly reply you make. Prove your god exists and we can discuss how it created everything. Otherwise, have a good one.

[@deanpelletier9210]

@Trevor Brannon If you say a God exists, then you will gladly provide the proof. He didn't prove any point of yours. There is definitely evidence that the earth is billions of years old, you just don't bother to do the research because you don't believe it. Nobody has to prove this to you when you can look it up yourself. Ice core samples, carbon dating, etc. And to say the dinosaur bones we dug up were all put there for photos after making them out of plaster.....that's just shit you're making up that nobody here actually believes. Maybe prove that too since you made the statement. I'm not making any kind of statement fyi, besides the fact that evidence exists online for everyone's eyes. Ignoring your silly arguments doesn't prove you're right about anything.

[@codisiusthehung553]

I love how you can't tell a Christian anything , almost like a narcissistic girl

[@codisiusthehung553]

Something something greytillion sex fantasy

[@marktrosien3005]

Eric's video should be titled, "how to tell you I don't know squat about science, without actually telling you I don't".

[@jasonsabbath6996]

To be fair to Eric, he probably learned science from his ridiculously unintelligent father Kent. Might not be all his fault.

[@simongiles9749]

@@jasonsabbath6996 When he was small, sure. But he's had ample opportunity to correct his misunderstanding now. He only professes that position because the scam worked for his dad and now it works for him.

[@conArtistAUS]

"Where to buy the best burgers in NA" doesn't get as many views i spose

[@crhkrebs]

Eric clearly doesn’t understand how half life works. Carbon 14 has a half life of about 5,730 years. Why would he expect all the C14 in diamonds to be gone in 10,000 years?

[@Circenn]

Just when I thought tiktok catch phrases wouldn't make it in KZbin I was proven wrong, and not by a flat earther.

[@cajuncountry84]

This dude's logical gymnastics skills are Olympic class. Dan found another live one.

[@jsettle939]

My favourite thing is watching people try and use science to disprove science

[@DaviniaHill]

He accepts the geological science on erosion, then dismisses everything else.

[@donnavorce8856]

Ouch. They cherry pick pretty much everything. I don't engage with these types any longer. Avoid religious fantasy at all costs. Their faith is a badge of honor they'll never give up. That's how cults work.

[@arbjful]

He is more interested in the Rock Of Ages than the age of rocks....

[@Patrik6920]

@@arbjful Brilliant lol...

[@arbjful]

@@Patrik6920 that's actually a quote from the classic 1960s film 'Inherit the wind'. A great film based on the Scopes 'Monkey' trial. Brilliant cast and acting....

[@christophervanoster]

🍒🍒

[@rodneytrotter6069]

If the earth is 6k years old, we advanced real quick to build the Pyramids!!

[@purefoldnz3070]

exactly

[@MrBbshark]

That was aliens

[@paul20g20]

The earth is older. Im Christian and beleive God has no form of time, if 6 days took to create the universe...

[@ReinhardSchuster]

That's because the creation was perfect right away 😂

[@TheCosmicGuy0111]

Was a speed run bruh, not that hard to understand

[@Silverlightlive]

As someone who has lived near Niagara Falls my whole life, and lived half a century, I can tell you they have moved. A lot of other things have, but on the Canadian side, they have had to build new walls to keep people from leaning over.

[@Henry-ep6qy]

I think what sucks about these and flat earthers is they ask really good questions but don’t bother to listen to the answers.

[@Moldylocks]

Imagine having Kent Hovind as your pops. I bet no one could come out of that being a normal adult with a functioning brain.

[@dogwalker666]

Exactly he didn't have a chance of being sane.

[@phillipharrison886]

That makes me feel sorry for him. He never had a chance

[@dogwalker666]

@@phillipharrison886 exactly why the YEC indoctrination centres should be closed down.

[@corporatecapitalism]

@@dogwalker666 he did have a chance considering personality isn’t hereditary. Just wish he was taken away or something.

[@dogwalker666]

@@corporatecapitalism it isn't nature it's nurture and as he he was brought up in an actual cult compound it was almost impossible that he would turn out sane.

[@snbalmung]

I think his biggest failure is to understand that erosion is a cycle and that cycles tend to be self sustaining.

[@marcello234]

exactly - erosion creates the arches as well as destroys them.

[@Brett-yq7pj]

I have had a few cycles that definitely weren't self sustained

[@snbalmung]

@@Brett-yq7pj the concept of cycle kinda implies that something within it causes it to start again. Unless that something is a finite resource, the cycle is self sustaining pretty much by definition. In the case of the erosion cycle, the rock that gets eroded, eventually goes on to become new rock. And, as the old rock erodes, the new rock gets exposed. Thus, self sustaining.

[@edisoncarter3841]

Eric would ask where the pedals, chain and wheels are on the erosion cycle.

[@pete_lind]

And that tiny thing we could do already in 1960s ... For six months in the summer and fall of 1969, Niagara's American Falls were “de-watered”, as the Army Corps of Engineers conducted a geological survey of the falls' rock face, concerned that it was becoming destabilized by erosion ... we can "repair" the edge of that waterfall if we want to , its not in natural state anymore ... other time Niagara falls was without water was in 30 March 1848 by a massive pile up of ice in the river .

[@georgesheffield1580]

A friend from the Indian subcontinent answered one of the " 6000 yr old earth " people that was bugging him by saying " my family and cultural has existed and has written records to show for it .

[@RockinRobbins13]

Please edit to make sense. I think you're saying that the 6,000 year supposed age of Earth is actually shorter than written history, which is very true. I've read the inscription on a piece of pottery more than 12,000 years old.

[@SGW4K]

Good point. And fwiw I understood you perfectly

[@Just-a-Orion-on-the-internet.]

@@RockinRobbins13 nah we could certainly not write 12 thousand years ago. The earliest scrolls or clay tablets we have are from 5 thousand years ago. Or a bit older. But still. Fossils disprove young earth instantaneously.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@Just-a-Orion-on-the-internet. Again, I personally read the inscription on a vase more than 12,000 years old. It wasn't a sentence, it was an idea. But it WAS a meaningful inscription. That day a philologist blew my mind and even pronounced the symbol.

[@Just-a-Orion-on-the-internet.]

@@RockinRobbins13 could you may be tell me the name or what kind of vase it was?

[@holgermuller3597]

Now I understand why NASA is searching for intelligent life in outer space

[@user-qd2zk8zs1f]

Awesome comment🤣🤣

[@sentinel_nightcrawler]

Cause there's not much of it on earth is there? 😅

[@derekcouzens9483]

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence ... Christopher Hitchen (sadly missed).

[@Moldylocks]

Hitchens the actual GOAT. I really miss that guy, he would have a field day and a gigantic youtube channel if he was still kicking it. RIP

[@Shunned_Potato]

The dunning-kruger effect is strong in this one.... The way he's getting everything wrong with absolute confidence is a shameful sight to see.

[@mrpositronia]

Blame his dad. "Son, don't believe anything you learn in, and out of, school. It's all lies. I will tell you the truth and you will believe me no matter what."

[@jerenoize]

Believers are very good at that. they've done their own research.

[@schrodingersgat4344]

Pffft! Dunning Kruger is a movie myth. You can die in real life if someone kills you in a dream, that's just stupid. 😉

[@joachimhultstrand2223]

I wonder if dunning-kruger effect is connected with narcissism

[@vitalyl1327]

Is not it a cornerstone of any religion? Religious beliefs won't stand if they were not backed by an absolute confidence and total disregard to facts and reason. This one is just far too obvious, but every single believer on Earth is guilty of the same.

[@ironmiron08]

They claim Earth is about 6000 years old, yet this guy is around 45 years old. How can that be? Shouldn't we expect people to be 6000 years old also?

[@susancorbett8155]

I lost it at "partly fossilised and partly not fossilised - in the same bone"

[@thephoenixking1086]

"We know the Earth is 6,000 Years old because we have this Rock that is 100,000 Years old, this clearly proves the Earth is 6,000 Years old". I am not sure if I did Mathematics correctly, but if I remember rightly, 100,000 is BIGGER than 6,000, I mean I might be wrong but I do not think I am.

[@archivist17]

🤪🤪🤪

[@mikebronicki8264]

"Why do 'they' say Niagara Falls has been eroding for 12,300 years when Earth is supposedly billions of years old? This proves that Earth is 6,000 years old." 😵‍💫

[@paulasmith9881]

100,000 years old or LESS, I think that's what's tripping everybody up when trying to debunk him

[@johnscaramis2515]

@@paulasmith9881 Less is maybe a factor of 2-5, but we are talking about a factor of 16, that's not "less", that's off by a complete universe

[@MrJHDK]

Those diamonds were put there to test your faith. An all knowing creator can make anything appear any age... Even though it's definitely 6000. It says so in the bible... I read it in the marginal notes 😉

[@spiderzvow1]

that creationist is the kind of person who becomes a manager and tells employees he hires "we are a family here" then proceeds to underpay them and treat them like sub humans

[@gertvanrooijen8250]

U good?

[@2511jeremy]

The guy who believes nothing blew up and created life will do anything to believe theres no consequences

[@gavinjames8749]

@@2511jeremy The guy who believes his imaginary friend created the earth and all people ignores the consequences and great harm this childish story perpetuates,and has done for centuries.When your god created the people of earth,why are there Muslims,Hindus etc.?Why are you right,and the majority of the earths population wrong?PS:nothing blew up and created life?Wow!What a display of total ignorance.Only a mind like that could go from a stolen corpse of an executed criminal,and conclude that the man had actually come back to life and presumably flown up to a magic happy place in the sky.What a shame it all took place in a child's imagination.

[@travisbicklepopsicle]

@@2511jeremy yeah, that sounds pretty crazy. What's it supposed to mean? Who says that?

[@d614gakadoug9]

Well, this guy introduced me to a couple of new terms - "creation rock" and "judgement rock" (or as I might call it, "Dammit I made a mess of creating those humans; I need a do-over before I get recalled for incompetence" rock) He also introduced a novel (mis)pronunciation of "bioturbation."

[@GeeVanderplas]

Stryper was creation rock, wasn't it?

[@MrCmking]

I went to church with this guy and his father. They are crazier in person! BUT they did teach me how to shoot a rubber band pretty far so that's cool I guess.

[@kevinvideos7020]

I think he's confusing the limitation of carbon 14 dating with carbon 14 not existing beyond that limitation. It's just that the numbers are too small once you hit a certain date to reliably measure the age, not that they have disappeared completely.

[@TheLargino]

Eric and Kent are not confused about how isotopes decay. They deliberately use any results of C14 isotopic analysis to further their 6000 year young earth. Is it a coincidence the half life of C14 (~5700 years) is about the same length of time as the young earth?

[@coleford4258]

I don't think he's confusing anything. It's actually a common tactic among YECs. They misrepresent almost everything about C14 dating, then use that misinterpretation to cast doubt among their followers.

[@tschorsch]

Tiny amounts of C14 are also effected by other elements decaying and converting small amounts of C12 into C14, for millions of years. These radioactive elements are also part of why C14 radiometric dating is limited.

[@Kualinar]

In diamonds, C14 decays into N14. That N14 stay trapped into the diamond. Later, some external radiation or cosmic rays can convert that N14 back into C14. That, if there is a neutron source nearby, C12 and C13 atoms can capture them and get changed into C14. So, the C14 can get refreshed and new C14 can form in existing diamonds that are over a billion years old.

[@MrJHDK]

Diamonds occur naturally much more easily than people commonly think.

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

"Where the creation rock meets the judgement rock". High end science right there.

[@Asylar343]

'High" indeed

[@jimnora1705]

I wonder if creation rock is similar to Fraggle rock.

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

@@jimnora1705 No. That has not yet been put there. We will all meet the Creator at Fraggle Rock when Armageddon comes.

[@jimnora1705]

@@veganbutcherhackepeter Cool, I always wanted to meet Jim Henson.

[@yttreblemaker]

@@jimnora1705 Or Rock and Roll...

[@pnutbteronbwlz9799]

I’m glad you specify young earth creationist. Just because a lot of people would click bait this, “Christian says” or “Creationist says”. But that doesn’t properly represent those groups. Many people believe there is a God behind science and the laws of nature and creation of the universe. But don’t believe the earth is young.

[@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722]

Exactly

[@puppets1979]

I think it is just sad that people have to be right so much that they will go to great lengths to believe their own lie is the pursuit of being right.

[@edwardrosier1805]

Got to love how he ignores the inconsistency in his own arguments.

[@2511jeremy]

Gotta love how ignorant you have to be to believe nothing blows up and when nothing blows up it creates life

[@nataliep1298]

"erosion happens therefore everything should be gone " LMAO

[@tma2001]

while clearly ignoring plate tectonics

[@robbybiddle9236]

This video is yet another example of social media giving a voice to those who should not be heard.

[@seasonedbeefs]

Everyone is allowed an opinion, whether it's true or not is another matter

[@iandennis7836]

​@@seasonedbeefs wrong again mate. Opinions put out as "facts" have caused more trouble than just about anything else ( see the holocaust for example) and take gullible and or stupid people in until they end up voting for a piece of shite like Trump.

[@11anonymous6]

“…and that, my liege, is how we know the earth to be banana-shaped”

[@CD_Character]

Imagine the gentle, yet turbulent, waters of "the flood" not disturbing the many layers of sediment laid down by the same flood responsible for carving the Grand Canyon in a week.

[@manuell3505]

The solar system has gone though a oxygen cloud and then a hydrogen cloud. This makes the sea-level rise fast without precipitation. Still need to figure something out to have it al disappear and go back to the initial situation. 😁

[@MaeljinRajah]

​@@manuell3505 we're making up shit now? The flood never happened quit making up shit

[@kenlee5509]

No thanks, I need my brain cells for useful things.

[@manuell3505]

@@MaeljinRajah There was a land breach around that time, leaving the Bosporus. But I might be mistaken. It's probably highly obfuscated verbally spread history, like Gilgamesh. Nobody could read. In 1000 years, there's not much left of any local event in tellings.

[@chbu7081]

@@manuell3505 Hydrogen and oxygen priduce a lot of heat when they combine, and exothermic reaction. That's what I meant to say. If you ignite hydrogen in the presence of oxygen you produce water. But you need a lot of heat to make the reaction fast enough (not thousands of years).

[@alwayscensored6871]

12,300 years ago North America was in an Ice Age

[@ozymandiasultor9480]

Nice pseudonym...

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

It's a shame there is no experts that he could ask to answer all his queries. They'd be called "rockologists" or something.

[@Jadyra]

With him bleating about the dinosaur bones, and the general disbelief that they existed, maybe he should be told that the devil is playing tricks.

[@steveharrison3007]

He runs the ark encounter, they have several 🦕 on the ark.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

​@@steveharrison3007 But aren't they plastic?

[@gryph01]

His dad must be disappointed.... Kent believes that humans existed with dinosaurs and in "fact" a Jackson's Chameleon is actually a baby triceratop..

[@AlbertaGeek]

You joke, but some creationists have used that exact excuse.

[@thepubknight6144]

​​​@@gryph01 there was a KZbinr named Nephlilim Free who really said dinosaur fossils were holograms invented by Lucifer to "tempt man away from his creator" And that his prayers to god "cured" his wife's multiple sclerosis

[@qlqnen]

You know how sometimes someone says something so stupid you can't even comprehend what they're getting at? This creationist just did that for me.

[@ALaModePi]

It never ceases to disappoint me the way that some folks want to leverage certain aspects of science to support their claims, but only those certain aspects, basically putting on a pretense of science while using what they want in the least scientific way possible. As I was listening to him go on, I also caught the "in a steady state" wording. Good catch. Growing up around the Great Lakes, we learned very early about the fact that many of these features were a direct result of the glacier advancing and then receding all ending at about less than 20,000 years ago (which seems to fit the erosion for 12,000+ years pretty well.) Then he goes on about erosion, but completely ignores tectonic activity (as well as using the bogus claim that North America could be eroded completely in 10,000 years. One wonders just where he got _that_ figure.) Then he goes into Carbon 14 in diamonds. You were right to be skeptical of this claim, some research on my part shows that Carbon 14 is _not_ found in diamonds. Where did he get the idea that it was? I suspect he heard this from someone else who heard it from someone else. Sometimes these folks sound like the results of a really bad game of telephone. Ultimately, I think it all comes down to that "steady state" fallacy from the first part. He assumes that the arches have always existed instead of being formed some lesser time ago by the erosion process. He fails to show any evidence that they're older than they should be, simply saying that they are. One minor beef: You said at one point, "12,000 years is still twice as long as what the Bible claims as the age of the Earth." What should be said is "12,000 years is still twice as long as the particular reading of the Bible these folks are using claims as the age of the Earth." (And you did say just that later on.) Why parse words? Well, the Bible really doesn't make the claim. Modern Jewish theologians have generally rejected such literal interpretations of the written text, and that even Jewish commentators who oppose some aspects of science generally accept scientific evidence that the Earth is much older. The fault really lies with James Ussher, the Archbishop of Armag, who wrote a "chronology" in 1650 which fell into disrepute in the 19th century except in the minds a small set of later fundamentalists. The 6000-year-old claim requires both absolutely literal interpretation of the times actually given and some very specific interpolation when times are not given.

[@2511jeremy]

Says the people who believe nothing blows up and created life

[@ALaModePi]

@@kidwave1 Where did you come by this information and why do you consider it credible? One notable problem with what you said is obvious if you know Latin. Lucifer means "light-bearer" while lucis simply means "light." Thus, the two are related by only because one is a root of the name. So, A.L. means "in the year of light" not "in the year of Lucifer."

[@gavinjames8749]

@@2511jeremy As opposed to the people who believe that their imaginary friend in the sky could feed thousands of people with some loaves of bread and a few fish.On top of which we are asked to credit the notion of a dead man coming back to life,for what purpose who can say?

[@2511jeremy]

@@gavinjames8749 right its not like the year 2023 is based off of his death or that its the most sold book in the world

[@gavinjames8749]

@@2511jeremy this year is 2023 in christian based calendars,the highest selling books are generally works of fiction,enjoyed so widely perhaps because they provide an imaginary outlet for their fears and anxieties,an escape from reality.I would imagine it could be extremely damaging for people to transfer their fictional concepts into reality,day to day lives.If the book that eventually sells more copies(not much of a guide to their accuracy)is,say,a harry potter fairy story,the number sold will not change that fairy story into an accurate representation of history.

[@chbu7081]

How does he think such delicate arches survived a flood that was supposedly able to carve out the Grand Canyon in a few hours?

[@smellynelly312]

Don’t ask stupid questions

[@Markfr0mCanada]

So many of humanity's problems in one man. You can debunk the things these people say all day, they can even see that the debunk is correct, and they will still cling to their "belief". It's not about what they actually believe, it's about tribalism. They have a team, saying they believe something is how they show their loyalty to their team, and they want to feel that their team is special. It's not about fact, it's about feeling.

[@MaddogJones]

"partially fossilised and partially not fossilised, sometimes within the same bone..." That is a sentence by a person who really loves the sound of their own voice(s).

[@jeffhall4228]

My mom told me bioturbation could make me go blind 😮😊

[@john_tann]

The hardest thing on earth is his ability to learn.

[@standoughope]

The apple didn't fall far from the tree with Eric.

[@davidjuson5608]

I think you'll find that it has yet to land.

[@Moldylocks]

Rotten tree, rotten apple.

[@CelestialAnamoly]

Hopefully he only inherited the bad science and con artistry of his dad (since that was all he was taught) and won't continue the abusive, criminal, exploitative, and enabling grossness his dad did...

[@johngavin1175]

It fell into cow manure

[@blueredingreen]

Asking "why has Niagara Falls only been eroding for 12k years?" is like asking "why is that person not older than they are?". Apparently that guy doesn't understand how the passage of time works.

[@DavidFraser007]

I didn't hear of the young earth theory until I was an adult. It has to be the most ludicrous nonsense ever cooked up. I put it the same category as the patient in a secure hospital who claims he is Napoleon.

[@justincredible.]

So confident his crowd will never, ever, fact check him. And he's right...sadly

[@eddiebruv]

I’ve seen Eric’s videos off and on for at least the last decade. He’s amazing in that he’s apparently learned nothing in all that time.

[@kamion53]

I think he learned how to present; he isn't half as obnoxious as his father ( but half of a lot is still a lot)

[@luetheler8867]

Thats exactly the problem with those religious fanatics, they seem to be allergic to progress

[@michaelhopkins9726]

Most of his arguments were plagiarized from his dad.

[@kleinjahr]

Of course he hasn’t learned anything, he already “knows” everything.

[@biddi7972]

@@luetheler8867 see im a christian right, when i was younger, about 10 years old or so, i believed in a young earth and pretty much saw kent hovinds word as the gospel itself rofl, but then at about 14-15 i actually decided to compile a bunch of different opinions and figured that it is far more logical that the earth, and even the universe are far older than the young earth model, (that the days in the bible in hebrew doesn't only translate directly to days, but has other meanings such as 7 'long periods of time'. Now i look back on videos like these glad that i decided to actually challenge my views. Although im still a christian, not all of us are illogical radical fanatics.

[@B30pt87]

"Oh look, I've used logic to prove my point!" Well, you should have used education to find out why your logic is wrong. "But it's easier to believe there's nothing outside of what I know."

[@Unit_With_Legs]

How can something i can't understand possibly exist beyond my limited understanding!!?? It just doesn't make sense...

[@CChissel]

These people think the Earth is just a static ecosystem, never changing and nothing ever forming or be g destroyed. That kind of thinking takes more energy to reject logic than it does to just use it and it shows just how little they were taught or learned growing up, it’s more sad than anything.

[@grahvis]

He cannot admit land can be rising, since that would cast doubt on his claim the Grand Canyon was the result of a sudden rush of flood water.

[@nickryan3417]

Unfortunately many of these same oxygen thieves apply the same failed logic to climate change and insist that nothing is happening.

[@maxmac7845]

He's a chip off the old block, an example of the indoctrination method of teaching.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

He's a chip off the old blockhead.

[@maxmac7845]

@@Mandelbrot_Set Lmao, very good, very good.

[@davidg4288]

I think some percentage of human teenagers are genetically programmed (by evolution) to reject their parents indoctrination and believe the opposite. This is essential for the survival of human civilization. Otherwise we'd all mindlessly accept the Grand Wazoo or something and society would stagnate. In other words some of us are born to think for ourselves and question authority, and to hide that fact until we are old enough to form our own tribe.

[@johngavin1175]

@@Mandelbrot_Set Errant Blowind, a morsel of the turd Kant.

[@Rosivok]

nothing compares to the density of a young earth creationist.

[@LiSa.N.J]

Best video I watched today. I love it when people make videos about something, but have no idea what they are talking about, but think they know it all. Thanks for doing this video and showing "real" science. Stay safe

[@MrDuneedon]

“It seems to me…” That fool already lost the argument, right there.

[@paulware4701]

Erich von Daniken has a lot to answer for. He popularised the idea that asking questions and challenging accepted ideas was the same as being intelligent. This fella proves that the reverse is often true.

[@another3997]

To be fair, for any given level of accepted knowledge, sceptics have always existed. Which is why we have modern science, not just religious dogma and fairytales. The idea that the Earth goes around the sun was heretical at the time, like so many other things we now accept as the truth. But people can always twist things to fit their ideas and beliefs. It's not intelligence that is missing, it's the willingness to consider what you believe may be wrong.

[@ThoughtandMemory]

As well as ignoring inconvenient evidence that spoil your personnel narrative. I don’t call him Von danidikhed for nothing.

[@c0mpl3x91]

The moment the guy just said the niaggara falls and why it hasnt eroded more than that I simply faceplamed.... i think ive never facepalmed so quickly

[@willymack5677]

The man really thinks that he’s held a piece of UNFOSSILIZED dinosaur bones. Absolute ignorance.

[@nasapayrollsystem8701]

Once again , and as always It's a classic example of someone talking , very confidently , about a topic , of which they know either very little or nothing . The less the know , the more confident they are . And this guy is confident OK. Yes... Dunning Kruger...

[@SilverDragonJay]

ok, but how much did Dan make on this video, you have to tell me because communism or something.

[@nasapayrollsystem8701]

@@SilverDragonJay Thousands of course

[@originalprecursor]

@@SilverDragonJay Communism? What are you on about?

[@ChoirFan1]

“This happens around the world…I was just in the Wisconsin Dells. It happened in the Wisconsin Dells…” so the USA is the world?

[@CD_Character]

To them it is. Jesus was the first American, doncha know ?

[@wiredforstereo]

I once had a blind beekeeper tell me that the way I kept bees wasn't possible because he didn't understand it.

[@Opendack]

How do you keep bees?

[@wiredforstereo]

@@Opendack With help.

[@RossOneEyed]

Young Earth Creationists make my head hurt. They are hard to watch.

[@brett_gardner]

I love that he has to learn a little bit of science in order to half-arse "debunk" it using his biblical myths.

[@blackiechan25100]

9:46 Him pulling out the bible while rolling out that sentence physically knocked the wind out of me

[@greggsenne1268]

Ask a YEC why the theory of radioactive decay predicts nuclear power stations and atomic bombs suddenly fails when predicting the age of the Earth.

[@bryanv21]

When you mix arrogance with ignorance.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Why do only young Earth creationists find radioactive carbon in diamonds? 🤔

[@user-wm6cv1zl9v]

I love how he refuses to understand how erosion works

[@brucemcabee5042]

In order for a whole world flood that covered all the land would require 7x the volume of water that exists on earth. Where did all that water go?

[@SGW4K]

Good question

[@knowbrainer233]

As someone that lives near Niagara Falls, I'd also like to mention that there is CONTINUAL effort put into preserving the falls to combat all the erosion.

[@RetepElpmet]

I didn't think it was possible, but Eric proves that an empty cardboard box is smarter than a human.

[@RockinRobbins13]

Smarter than THAT human, anyway.

[@jasmijnariel]

9:33 funny that he thinks the flood layed down thousands of different layers in 1 flood😂🤦‍♀️

[@mirandarensberger6919]

That's what I always think about when they make that claim.

[@Waniou137]

Apparently insects are better at mixing up layers than a catastrophic worldwide flood I guess?

[@jasmijnariel]

@@Waniou137 mixing up layers.... yet they are nicely organized...

[@aremoreequal]

This building in my town says it was built in 1992, but my town says it's been around for over 100 years. Why is this building only 31 years old if the town is supposed to be 100 years old?!

[@scottlarson281]

When I heard it said this guy was going to provide irrefutable evidence....I didn't even bother to pop some popcorn and get comfortable. I knew it'd only be a few seconds before his irrefutable evidence consisted of, "Here's what I think, based upon my bias towards fairy tales".

[@chrisconnors7418]

YEC can’t agree on which rocks are pre-flood, flood, and post-flood. Different groups will look at the same rock layers and claim they were laid down different ways. At least one of the groups will disagree that the uncomformity he showed was created by the flood (eg, the bottom layer was created, the top layers were natural deposition (not flooding), and flood deposition doesn’t occur till you get into macrofossils). The groups contradict each other and their claims fail based on their own internal logic. It reminds me how two main YEC institutes independently made charts showing which hominid fossils were fully ape and which were fully human. When the charts were compared it showed what one group said were fully ape the other said were fully human, and vice-versa. That’s a slightly ironic way of confirming the fossils showed intermediate features of both ape and human, the very thing they were disputing.

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

Ohhh joy. Eric Hovind. LOL First Daddy Grifter, now the son...!

[@mrpositronia]

Poor son having been academically abused by his damaged dad.

[@CelestialAnamoly]

​@@mrpositronia he was more than academically abused by his dad... I have no idea why he would want to follow in his dad's footsteps but it might be the only thing he knows.

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

@@mrpositronia Yeah as CelestialAnamoly said, he was absolutely verbally, emotionally and physically abusive to his children - he tells a tale of beating Eric for being scared at the dentist and squirming in the chair, rather than comforting, so he was more scare of Kent if he didn't sit still than he was of what the dentist was going to do. And he LAUGHS at it. He thinks it's a funny story of parental discipline. And he's committed DV on his partners too so yeah. Daddy Grifter is the worst.

[@vallejomach6721]

@@CelestialAnamoly Money. Easy money at that.

[@garypellerin5576]

Did he just say that there is a layer between a half billion and a billion years that eroded? How can that be.

[@michaelmorrigan614]

My grandmother was highly religious and I was always into science. She simply told me this during a discussion, “the Bible never actually says how long a day is. One day to God could be millions of years to us”

[@jigoutdoors8146]

He literally disproved his own theory in the first min. The level of ignorance flat earthers and people alike have is unmatched. It is truly fascinating.

[@marvinmartin4692]

Dunning Krueger in full display!

[@zacattack32441]

This is young earth creationists, not flat earth

[@dreamybullx1]

@@zacattack32441 almost the same thing

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

Great of him to admit that he has a problem, it seems mostly a mixture of personal incredulity and cherry picking. Oh he also has a good smattering of not knowing his arse from his elbow. Thanks Dan and keep up the good work.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

I saw someone on The Wheel get a elementary question about the age of the Earth wrong. It's sad to see just how dumb society is becoming.

[@iweigele]

"This layer is found around the world." In Arizona AND Wisconsin!

[@KasumiRose77]

"OMG a thing started twice as old of the Earth!!! HOW?!" derp

[@jacksontrump8932]

What's scary is that his vote counts just as much as mine

[@thedoobieshrew0244]

I feel for these people, makes me sad but laugh hard at the same time.

[@ro4eva]

Pray for them. They know not what they do. 🙏

[@d614gakadoug9]

I don't feel bad for them at all. It is far to common to find, upon scraping of the top layer, they are despicable to the core. cf. Matt What"sHisName of inflatable banana fame. Calling him despicable is to praise him with faint damnation.

[@2511jeremy]

You feel bad for people who don't believe nothing came into nothing and blew up to create life.... and the only reasoning you have is billions of years what a ignorant veiw you clowns will believe anything

[@Bijoux_DerWunderCatsen]

If he spent as much time trying to understand geology as he did reading magic books, he would not be making this video. He's seeking confirmation bias for his magical beliefs.

[@curtbressler3127]

If only Theists put as much effort into questioning their own religions as they do questioning a globe earth, the moon landing, dinosaurs, bacteria, viruses, vaccines, evolution, the big bang theory, etc. They spend countless hours trying to debunk all of reality but don't spend a single second questioning their dogma.

[@terrypussypower]

Young Earth Creationists: Appealing to the ignorance of “believers” for 2,000-plus years!

[@segue2ant395]

"Science doesn't make any sense, unlike my two-millenia old book of fairytales written by shepherds"

[@jugglerjim01]

He seems to be using some very big numbers to try to prove his young earth 🤣🤣

[@RM_VFX]

So essentially, he's saying Niagara Falls should be somewhere else by now...has he considered where it actually started?

[@JoeBob79569]

These creationists kind of remind me of someone who buys a car and it turns out to be a lemon, but they don't want to admit they got scammed and so they're trying to justify the purchase with as many excuses as they can think of. Like _"it's got good tyres"_ and _"it's never been crashed"_ but meanwhile the underside is falling apart with rust, and it's got so many warning lights you'd think you were in Vegas on New Year's Eve, on acid, and suffering from astigmatism..