Your Attention Please!! | Roto Grip Attention Star In Depth Scouting Report ft. Tobias Myers

[@Francis.L33]

I really like this format. It’s comprehensive, and the side notes are great for highlighting key points. I’m absolutely ready for the closed-book final exam 👍

[@cameronmcisaac1384]

You've seriously upgraded the ball review videos, that's why you're always my go to guy for new stuff. Keep up the great work 👍

[@kellymcmanaway4069]

Like the new format, I want to see you throwing Motiv as well.

[@LukeRosdahl]

Working on it so hopefully will be at some point!

[@robertkaczynski8649]

I do appreciate that you are a free agent now and being able to give opinion of SPI and/or B7 balls and mentioning what they are like versus each other.

[@kevinanderson9093]

Enjoyed the new format! I bowl on a heavy walled up house shot. The lanes are 20+ years old. So there's a ton of friction. Would appreciate your input on using a urethane bowling ball, and which one

[@jeremytruitt6997]

Best informative vid on the Star out there. I have had mine and tried to use it but have not had any success. On a THS I try throwing it in the same area as I normally would but end up skidding past the breakpoint. I try moving right (right handed bowler) 3-5 boards then I am through the nose. I tried knocking the shine down but did it with 4k because I didn't know, and still not the shape I am looking for. After watching this, It won't be the first ball out of the bag and I will hit it with 3k. I have 2 league nights to test it before I am off to Nationals.

[@donrichter9859]

Luke, really like this new format with the side notes. Great information. This is why your the best ball reviewer on you tube. Come on folks hit that subscribe and like, let's get Luke a big bump in subs/views/likes; his hard work deserves it.

[@stevenharris1235]

Love the new format sir. Great work. Why is it so difficult to find out what surfaces are under the reacta gloss polish?

[@LukeRosdahl]

I'm not sure, there used to be some info out there for the finish processes but not sure where that'd be found now.

[@DaJesta088]

I like the updated reviews… Especially the discussion of what a ball would do in the hands of a rev dominant vs speed dominant bowler. So here’s a future video recommendation (if you can somehow find the time lol). Videos for specifically speed (or rev) dominant bowlers putting together an arsenal of equipment. As a speed dominant lefty, I’d love to hear what you’d recommend…

[@LukeRosdahl]

Like I mentioned towards the end of the video, it's always hard doing that because depending on the conditions, anything can work for anybody, so if you have a wetter house shot, the list will be completely different than if it's a drier house shot. It's too hard to do stuff like that unfortunately because of the amount of variables.

[@trulytoned1443]

Love the videos! Keep them coming! 😀 Question: How does the Attention Star compare to the DV8 Violent Collision? I’d love to see a comparison video for those two. Thank you.

[@LukeRosdahl]

The Violent Collision is closer to being a longer and sharper Exotic Gem, so it's definitely a handful of boards stronger than the Star. The Star is in cleaner more medium strength territory like the Absolute, Rubicon UC2, RST X3, Halo Pearl, etc.

[@trulytoned1443]

@@LukeRosdahl OK. Thanks for the information. This is useful.

[@neilalmoite9747]

Is there overlap if you have the Attention Star and a Vebo?

[@LukeRosdahl]

As far as overall hook potential, yes, as far as shapes, not really. The Star is earlier/heavier rolling and kind of arcy, the VEBO is cleaner, sharper, and rounder

[@danielcunningham7169]

Nice to hear about the Reacta Gloss. Did they ever say what the cause was?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Well they never officially/publicly admitted there was an issue in the first place, but upon obtaining the SDS (safety data sheet) for it to figure out what the hell it was after the first couple balls I had with it sucked, the issue is that it's a boat/car finishing polish that had a slip agent in it, so it was hydrophobic. Finishing polishes are meant to be pretty but also keep out/repel oil, water, dirt, etc., and putting something designed to repel oil on something designed to absorb it obviously didn't work, so depending on different types of lane oil, it wouldn't come off the ball, and the ball wouldn't absorb it because of the gloss, so stuff would slime up and not hook. I'd imagine they just had the manufacturer take the slip agent out of the polish, OR they're using a different polish that achieves a similar result but just doesn't have the slip agent in it. Whatever the issue was, it seems to have been resolved at least, so all's well that ends well I think!

[@Top_Bowler]

Would you say it is close enough to the theorem where both of them can’t fit in the bag or would it be a good ball down

[@LukeRosdahl]

It's a ball down, similar reactions but the Theorem is a fair amount stronger

[@Top_Bowler]

@@LukeRosdahl thanks man i appreciate the response

[@069rene]

Love the scouting report. How would you think it would compare to the VEBO?

[@LukeRosdahl]

It's a half step down from the Vebo, similar overall looks/shapes on the lane, the Vebo just has a stronger cover so it hooks more.

[@069rene]

Thanks.

[@krazekilla224]

Do you see this as a UC2 replacement? Sorry if you mentioned it in the video, watching at work in an office lol.

[@LukeRosdahl]

Yep, definitely a very UC2 type of ball

[@1_Bad_SOM_Bish]

Looking to replace my worn down Altered Reality (Still USBC leagal in league play most everywhere, and my house shot killer). How does the Star compare???

[@LukeRosdahl]

Cover strength isn't close enough, from SPI the Eternity is actually the closest ball.

[@remington1439]

Luke what’s your code for purchasing balls, is it the same for cool wick ? Looking for a med/heavy symmetrical ball, down from the Gem Exotic/3.0 hammer, any ideas? Thanks Luke

[@justincox8193]

If I had a Altered Reality, Sublime, and Attention star, would it be fair to say that's the order they would come out of the bag?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Possibly, the Sublime is kind of sideways from the Star because it has a stronger cover but weaker core

[@LaurigerLT]

How does this ball compare to the Attention Black Pearl?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Looks to be definitely heavier rolling, cover is a little cleaner, so this one is a little more core heavy and the Black Pearl is a little more cover heavy, or the Star is a little more rolly but ultimately a little weaker.

[@joeanderson9267]

Great video as always. Will Angel be doing any reviews?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Yeah here and there, just haven't drilled anything for her recently

[@joeanderson9267]

@@LukeRosdahl her rev rate is more like us normal bowlers.

[@jdmiller24]

@@joeanderson9267 and here I am always trying to find someone in the higher rev range to see it more clearly for myself. Most of the guys with the higher rev ranges doing ball reviews are company guys and it is tough to weed through the "this ball is great" to find what I would actually use it for.

[@FSUSean2112]

i would be upgrading from the nuclear cell but how different would it be from the nuke cell, i mean i like the cell cause its harder off the back but the star seems to go a bit more and cleaner? what do you think

[@LukeRosdahl]

Even though they're both etrax covers, the Nuke's version was really strong, so this one isn't quite that far up there. I'm not sure Storm has a replacement for the Nuke right now, the Hammer Effect I think would be the closest ball on the current market to it.

[@FSUSean2112]

@@LukeRosdahl Okay, I'm just wanting to stay with the same company right now, so I'm trying to pick different balls that are in the line of storm rotogrip and 900 global.

[@LukeRosdahl]

I think you'll just have to wait for a few months and see what else comes down the line. Getting into the bowling off season, and Bowl Expo is coming up in a couple months and they always put out several things at the beginning of bowling season. The original Eternity might be worth a look too, it's at least in the right strength zone, I just think it's going to be too smooth.

[@FSUSean2112]

@@LukeRosdahl That's why I liked the star a little bit more.It was a little bit quicker on the back, But. So is the cell so I was thinking about it, but you're right getting close to the new season New stuff comes out so I might wait a couple months.

[@dltippett]

Luke, our lanes have been medium to dry. Would this be a good add or would my Zen cover.

[@LukeRosdahl]

What does your zen already do right now? This one acts quite a bit like a Zen, just a little more aggressive

[@christophergreen2604]

Getting Halo Pearl vibes with this one. Little bit of a core/shell mismatch. Also where it fit in the line when it was released. Fingers crossed that I'm right.

[@LukeRosdahl]

YES, that's actually a great observation. This one is a LITTLE bit rounder and more continuous than the HP, but I would absolutely agree that they're on top of each other. I loved my HP, nearly shot back to back 300s with it once upon a time.

[@kylesparrow9996]

How does this compare to a VEBO?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Blackout is a half step up from this one. Similar rolls, the Blackout just has a stronger coverstock, but this one rolls a little heavier so it depends on the amount of friction you have. If you have plenty of friction, they won't seem that different, but if you get on more oil, then you'll start to see the Blackout pull away.

[@rayjayks]

The Blackout to me is crazy long down the lane, even with surface, but it really turns hard. I can't recall having any other ball that "waits" that long down the lane. It is a bit tricky to dial in sometimes because of this hockey stick motion, but I can usually stay with this ball a long time with minor speed adjustments. It's not a good ball for playing big angles for me. I've been interested in the Star, but I think it is fairly close to several other balls I already have based on a multitude of reviews. I think I've convinced myself to get an Exotic Gem after seeing it side by side with the Star. I want something earlier and can play deeper. Thanks for the great reviews, comparisons, and comment replies!

[@LukeRosdahl]

@@rayjayks Yeah the Blackout is weird because it definitely goes a handful of feet farther down the lane than you expect it to

[@joehutchcraft1675]

Luke, I have the OG Gem, and a Summit, both at 14lb. I've been looking to get a clean ball for the transition. Would this be a good compliment for what I currently got? Mid/high tilt, high track rev/speed matched bowler.

[@LukeRosdahl]

Yeah definitely, the Summit is actually stronger than this one so it'd be a great cleaner ball down

[@jcc_482]

Any comment on 900 Global (OG) S84 Eternity compared to eTrax Attention Star. To me, they same =

[@LukeRosdahl]

They shouldn't be, eternity cover is a fair bit stronger. I think you'd need to get on some more oil to see the traction difference. I don't doubt they'd feel virtually identical on a house shot

[@jeramiescott3364]

I enjoyed this ball at storm match maker.

[@andrewknasiak5290]

Constructive criticism of the format. Take it however you want because others might disagree. While i do like the summary, like a powerpoint being up when someone is presenting it distracts me from what you are saying because I am reading that vs listening or watching ball reaction. The detail of your description is why i watch your videos. Potential solution. Keep same format as before and similar to Casey Murphy, summary slide in between that you voice over. Either way I enjoy your content so keep it coming.

[@LukeRosdahl]

I did consider that, but the reason I did it this way is that for the people that find my commentary too thick, they can just watch the ball reaction and the notes, and for the people that listen to the commentary, you don't even have to read the notes because the notes are just a summary of what I'm saying. Sorry if it's still distracting, I figured that would be the case for some. However, there's a problem either way. For Casey, people complain that he doesn't leave the slides up long enough, but he does that so that if people want to read, they can pause the video, and for the people that aren't interested, they don't have to sit there for 30 seconds waiting for the slide to end so they can keep watching the video. Interrupting the video for any reason makes people leave, so that's why the ball reaction continues and anything I put in the video goes in the sidebar, so that if people want it, it's there, but if they don't, I'm not interrupting what they're watching. Having to play the YT game just forces me to do some things I don't really want to do or that aren't ideal.

[@justincox8193]

@@LukeRosdahl can't make everyone happy, keep the up the great videos.

[@andrewknasiak5290]

Yes the youtube game is another factor. I am one of the people who complain about casey not leaving up long enough because it is annoying to pause. I enjoy the technical side more than most which is why i really appreciate your content and yes you cant make everyone happy so whatever works for the masses is fine. I will just cover up half my phone screen with my hand. Different people learn different ways. Appreciate what you do and keep up the great content

[@jomo279]

I love it as is - thanks for keeping evolving.@@LukeRosdahl

[@skunkape8326]

I like the format, but I miss the Angel/Luke format. The combination of the two of you and the different layouts and surfaces really tell us a lot about the ball. I can't begin to know how this ball would work for me with this reviewer or a few of the others.

[@LukeRosdahl]

Yeah sorry about that, it just had to be done. Plus I got tired of hearing "you really should throw the ball out of the box so we can all see it the way they intended it, when you change the surface I don't know what I'm going to be getting if I leave it at box." Angel might get back into some eventually, but we really have to wait and see. Highly doubt SPI will decide to start sending us balls again, though they do send other unaffiliated parties balls for reviews.

[@4G64SicKShoT]

I only have room for 1 more ball and i ball down to exogem after bw 2.0h, im thinking summit peak or journey at 2k, this attention star is too similar to the gem imo, also threw my first 300 off a 289 with the gem saturday night

[@LukeRosdahl]

The Star isn't really that close to the Exotic, this is one of those feels further apart than it looks type of things, but if you have the Exotic below your BW 2.0h, then you're not really bowling on enough oil for stuff to be that different, because the 2.0 hybrid is weaker than the Exotic actually, 2.0h should be a step down from the Exotic, then the Star would be a step down from the 2.0h. The Summit Peak is actually a stronger/earlier ball than the Star, it's just not as responsive, so that's why I listed it as a ball sideways from the Star. With the way it sounds, you'd probably need to drop down to an XPonent or maybe even like an original Hyroad to get any kind of separation, because the Journey cover is still stronger than the Star's cover and with the amount of friction it sounds like you have, you're not going to see much if any difference between it, the Exotic, or the 2.0 hybrid because of how responsive the Journey is.

[@kurthanke1230]

How does it compare to the Eternity ( Original)?

[@LukeRosdahl]

This one has a weaker cover formula, so it's a little weaker, a little cleaner and a little sharper. The Eternity was clean and angular enough that they won't feel a ton different, especially because of how much the core in the Star gets done. They're further away on paper than they look on the lane, let me put it that way.

[@kurthanke1230]

@@LukeRosdahl Thanks

[@CurtisL8.3066]

No live comments?

[@LukeRosdahl]

Yeah I don't know lol. It was quiet

[@cardinalcopium5088]

It's strong as hell for me. Doesn't have that wiggle in the oil that most Reacta Gloss balls have.

[@LukeRosdahl]

I might have mentioned this before, but I heard they buffed all the cover strengths recently too, the increase in hardness hurt because of how clean most of their covers are, and then combined with obliterating the surface with the gloss, it was just too much. I'd imagine they just had the gloss manufacturer remove the slip agent, there's no other way to "fix" a hydrophobic compound/polish.