Your Drill (DOESN'T HAVE) a Secret Feature That Brands Are Hiding

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@simongore
@simongore 2 жыл бұрын
As a Plant Hire/small tool repair technician (
@emanuelmifsud6754
@emanuelmifsud6754 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I have dissassembled a racquetting chuck, and the way you describe it is correct,
@georgehelyar
@georgehelyar 2 жыл бұрын
AvE has put out a couple of reaction videos to this video, including cutting away a chuck to show exactly this.
@Matt-my7pz
@Matt-my7pz 2 жыл бұрын
You are quite right. Turning back loosens the chuck... Who'd of thought
@craigsbully
@craigsbully 2 жыл бұрын
So you watched the AvE video he uploaded.
@001USA001
@001USA001 2 жыл бұрын
Thankful I saw your post!
@isaiahpalm5151
@isaiahpalm5151 2 жыл бұрын
I usually hear that click of disengagement when I am removing my drill from the chuck. It is most likely the paw disengaging from the ratchet, which if anything would loosen. AVE just uploaded a video and actually goes into mechanics of modern keyless chucks, funnily enough the locking "trick" actually caused the tooling to release sooner than if it had just been left tensioned.
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA 2 жыл бұрын
I am guessing it is all CLICK BAIT!
@ADubTheGrizzy
@ADubTheGrizzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stan_in_Shelton_WAlol
@Oliver-hx9sc
@Oliver-hx9sc 2 жыл бұрын
Tried it yesterday and it is total b.s. AVE is on the money
@edide1627
@edide1627 2 жыл бұрын
This does nothing for tightening the grip, this is to stop the inertia of the chuck from loosening when it stops, and it happens automatically.
@zynski3451
@zynski3451 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-hx9sc Yup no contest. Trust the man who points the camera at the work, not at his own little face. 'This trick works because the minimum wage company people wanted to laugh, so they told me it works.' vs. 'Son, here's a f*ckin blueprint as to why that's bullsh*t.'
@lawdog516
@lawdog516 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a woodworker for many years and just discovered that feature about a year ago. It goes to show you that your always learning !!! Thanks for doing this video!!!
@anonimo_surfeador
@anonimo_surfeador 2 жыл бұрын
Grammar police here. "You're" or "you are" always learning
@anonimo_surfeador
@anonimo_surfeador 2 жыл бұрын
@Hank Hill lol
@JAMESYBOY.
@JAMESYBOY. 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the chucks of these drills are made by a separate company and that's why it's not listed in the user's manuals of any of these brands. Like if it was a feature the brands created you would think they would mention it 🤔
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 жыл бұрын
@@JAMESYBOY. they're all pretty much made by Jacobs.
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 2 жыл бұрын
This is a feature that not all of them have. Must be the brand of chuck they use.
@mrRoitt
@mrRoitt 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked with Makita drills before and had an issue with bits falling out, because when you used the tool it would loosen up by itself. I found out however, that it locks the bit in place if You go counterclockwise until one click, so I can confirm it works, since the bits stopped falling out and I always use that now when working with drills. Cheers for making all the research and company calling for answers, that's some dedication hahaha
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 2 жыл бұрын
There's no need to turn the chuck backward to activate the anti-inertia feature, it does it automatically. The reason the manual doesn't mention it is that it's not a Ryobi or DeWalt or Rigid feature, it's a chuck feature. Jacobs knows all about it. That feature had to be added when automatic brakes were incorporated into drills. If the drill is spinning at 2000 RPM and stops instantly, the chuck will often loosen without the clicky feature.
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic 2 жыл бұрын
Bob, thank you for providing an answer that actually describes this feature. Thank you sir....
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic Welcome Mark, thank you too!
@EwanMarshall
@EwanMarshall 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it should be in the specifications and passed along in the manual.
@jdogdizzle8473
@jdogdizzle8473 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed one of my drill does this in high speed but I never noticed in a lower end version of the same brand.
@utookmynames
@utookmynames 2 жыл бұрын
Ok now this makes some sort of sense. He never explained what he meant by “locked in place” but your explanation was perfect. It locks the Chuck not the bit. Thanks engineers!
@robbrown5717
@robbrown5717 2 жыл бұрын
An Aussie stuck in an apartment in Wales after picking up Covid in London... I just stumbled across your video. I have watched thousands of DiY, home maintenance and tool review videos on KZbin and this is the best I've ever seen for sense of purpose, clarity and presentation. Great job Nils! I have never before subscribed to a channel... yours is the first.
@christaylor2959
@christaylor2959 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Wales!
@radfoxuk8113
@radfoxuk8113 2 жыл бұрын
@Wasn't Me Coming from the same groups as those who don't believe in Australia? Yeah, I'm gonna listen to you mate... *Snort and laugh mockingly.*
@radfoxuk8113
@radfoxuk8113 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the land of sheep shaggers and ram raiders! Hope you enjoy the rain, and lack of stinging nettles that cause suicide.
@royjohnson465
@royjohnson465 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, "also" give credit to the absolute clarity of this man speaking the English language in his video which is commendable and praiseworthy. "In Ireland, Devon & Cornwall in England, and some parts of North America & Scotland" speak the purest, clearest, and most accurate English dialect.
@stevesurprenant1005
@stevesurprenant1005 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@Rubarb555
@Rubarb555 2 жыл бұрын
My 20 year old Bosch mentioned this in the user's manual. That "locked in place" is not 100% either, a cylindrical drill bit can still slip if stuck in the material. Chucks are usually designed and manufactured by an external company, like Röhm or Jacobs. Maybe you should contact them too, maybe they will give more insight how this mechanism actually works. That would be interesting, Im sure. Kudos for the thorough investigation. Cheers!
@djvincon
@djvincon 2 жыл бұрын
That is some nice additional info!
@rgregoryful
@rgregoryful 2 жыл бұрын
Users manual?!? Is that some kind of esoteric fairy tale juice? Users Manual, your just making that up, never heard/ seen one.
@vidperenic4618
@vidperenic4618 2 жыл бұрын
My gues is that drill tightens as much as you rachet but when you lock it it wont go lose due to vibration
@802Garage
@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын
Contacting the chuck makers is a great idea!
@florinpandele5205
@florinpandele5205 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to say the same thing, drill manufacturers just assemble the drills, they would not be aware of something like this. Welcome to globalization.
@rjsusej01
@rjsusej01 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so so much I’m 63 and trying to use the drills and with you and all ur help I’m able to start smarter then most who is experienced so I will be looking at many of your videos to get knowledge and safety of course thank you so much for helping us grandma
@craigieb
@craigieb 2 жыл бұрын
When you're 61 and you think you've learned enough in life, sometimes you come across a video that answers a question you've always had about something, but didn't know you HAD the question. I've NEVER been able to figure out how to tighten these chucks properly, and in the first two minutes of your video, my mind is blown. Thank you!!
@bfp5035
@bfp5035 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@burnerjack01
@burnerjack01 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little older than you and I can concur. I constantly have drivers loosen up and drop out of the chuck when removing sheet metal screws. Always was tempted to grab the chuck with some channel locks to tighten further, just out of frustration. Have a workmate that has a Milwaukee with a drill bit permanently planted in that chuck but never asked him how it got that way. Anywhoo, I will try this.
@pdr701
@pdr701 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy another 60"s yr old had the exact same thought.
@burnerjack01
@burnerjack01 2 жыл бұрын
@@pdr701 (Shhhhh! There are many of us....)
@Fake-moon-landing.
@Fake-moon-landing. 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I've already rang three tradesmen I know and their shocked.
@btj1844
@btj1844 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in commercial construction for almost 45 years and my Makita repair center rep showed me that about 6 or 7 years ago. Keep up the great videos.
@scotmetcalf2745
@scotmetcalf2745 2 жыл бұрын
Ya Makita rock used them in construction for years dropped off buildings and keeps on ticking only reason I own a dewalt was price
@videosight1
@videosight1 2 жыл бұрын
@@scotmetcalf2745 they are pretty close in price
@bobbyhempel1513
@bobbyhempel1513 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that a rep from a company had to show you how to use your tools properly it's kind of sad.
@charlespartak2435
@charlespartak2435 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyhempel1513 thats why theyre reps...they represent the company and are out there to demonstrate to make sure their product is being used properly and to their full potential.
@briankucinski1905
@briankucinski1905 2 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is this all those chucks are made by Jacobs they are all the same they all do that. Has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the drill.
@chadfengel
@chadfengel 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what’s more impressive, the fact you bought all these drills to test this theory, or the fact you had patience to deal with customer service for all these brands.
@ewicky
@ewicky 2 жыл бұрын
It's true. I despise calling customer service because, so seldom, are they actually able to address whatever I am calling about. My favorite is when the website says to call if your question isn't answered in the FAQs, but then the call center employees are just equipped with scripts that read just like the FAQs. Sometimes they don't even speak English. I wish there was an exam I could take that w certify me to skip all the rigamarole and go straight to Tier2/3/Engineering or whatever.
@j.paulandrews261
@j.paulandrews261 2 жыл бұрын
When you spend $1,000 but the video makes you 10k in ad revenue it makes real sense.
@arde4
@arde4 2 жыл бұрын
Neither. It's the fact that having the drills he doesn't show on video the locking working. He just shows them clicking, but doesn't show them being loose before the counterrotation, so showing them to be apparently locked after that doesn't mean anything. Useless video.
@nosignal88
@nosignal88 2 жыл бұрын
Customer service 100%
@billgreen1861
@billgreen1861 2 жыл бұрын
@@arde4 Wow, you are the epitome of an incredulous person, a doubting Thomas, without even trying it out yourself. Judging this man and his video. Again, Wow !
@blocksofhealth5013
@blocksofhealth5013 8 ай бұрын
I've only seen a couple of this guys videos, but I like that he doesn't have a lot of emphasis on style over content.
@MrDoyle07
@MrDoyle07 2 жыл бұрын
I have been a tradesman for the better part of fifty years. I thought my “firsts” were over. Then you whipped this into the mix. It does feel fun to learn something new. Thank you.
@MrDoyle07
@MrDoyle07 2 жыл бұрын
Seldom. But then, I have a fist grip like a pipe wrench 😂
@dustinswatsons9150
@dustinswatsons9150 2 жыл бұрын
It's so you can run the armature of a c&c milling machine if you must with a drill
@dustinswatsons9150
@dustinswatsons9150 2 жыл бұрын
The lock-in feature works great for operating as something for a lathe power plant if yours fails as well
@dustinswatsons9150
@dustinswatsons9150 2 жыл бұрын
So it doesn't become loose over time
@garychandler4296
@garychandler4296 2 жыл бұрын
@@dustinswatsons9150 Porter Cable time is 10 seconds!
@rvasquez111
@rvasquez111 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a commercial electrician. I’ve been using these drills on a regular basis since 2001. I’ve never had a problem with any bits falling out. I believe that the click you are feeling is just the ratchet disengaging so you can loosen it.
@pizzadog4206
@pizzadog4206 2 жыл бұрын
Yea the bit is tightened with the first motion. That back click does not lock anything. If the bits are falling out the chuck is not tight.
@philscott7949
@philscott7949 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. This video looks like a hoax.
@specialsause949
@specialsause949 2 жыл бұрын
@@philscott7949 how is it s hoax if he's not making a definitive statement?
@Estinus
@Estinus 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect another commenter is correct in his belief that the "feature" is not meant to be manual, rather its simply an automatic mechanism to prevent the bit from loosening under counter clockwise rotation.
@MigliorAutomotive
@MigliorAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
It’s exactly this. The opposite of what this useless video states. IT’s disengaged a feature not “activating” it.
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like taking apart and exposing the mechanism is going to make a great video. Contacting anyone who can provide a photo of the old manuals or indicator on a drill would be amazing too.
@NolanRollo
@NolanRollo 2 жыл бұрын
We need @AvE
@johmu5466
@johmu5466 2 жыл бұрын
@@NolanRollo And, Or, This Old Tony..!
@robbryan2822
@robbryan2822 2 жыл бұрын
aVe !!!
@sovietairborne6282
@sovietairborne6282 2 жыл бұрын
AvE!!!!!
@LazerBrain11
@LazerBrain11 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for the video on how to 'unlock' the chuck, hope it comes soon!
@ZillaMesh
@ZillaMesh 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest secret feature I learned was that Ridgid has a lifetime warranty on tools & batteries. Any other tools offer this? That's pretty awesome 😂
@KB-ie7jr
@KB-ie7jr 2 жыл бұрын
Another secret feature is that the Ridgid LSA (Lifetime Warranty) only applies to batteries that were included as part of a kit. Batteries purchased seperately only receive a 3 year limited warranty. The 'lifetime warranty on tools and batteries' comment gives people like me who wouldn't burden themselves with the reading of any warranty documents the impression that all Ridgid cordless tools and Ridgid batteries have the lifetime coverage, which is almost true. You're right, other tools don't offer this and it is pretty awesome, until you find out all of the 4Ah battery 2-packs you bought at Depot were only covered for 3 years when the lifetime of free battery replacements is why you committed to the Ridgid line of tools in the first place. Pretty awesome turns to pretty butthurt pretty fast.
@SammyInnit
@SammyInnit 2 жыл бұрын
Life time means lifetime of the tool, usually 5 years, not your lifetime.
@kennethwills2913
@kennethwills2913 2 жыл бұрын
@@SammyInnit I had a reciprocating saw that I had them rebuild and it was way more than five years after I purchased it. I have a drill and a multitool that I will be doing this with as soon as I finish a project I am using them on. That said, they no longer seem to advertise that it has a lifetime guarantee and when you look up getting a tool fixed, you are asked if it has the lifetime guarantee or not, so they must have been losing money on it. I plan to milk mine for as long as possible! BTW-you had to have registered each tool and battery to get that deal. And yes, I have gotten free batteries from them as well.
@nemesisxrox6773
@nemesisxrox6773 2 жыл бұрын
@@SammyInnit ... correct - if all Ridgid cordless tools n batts were 'lifetime' there wouldn't b so many used ones listed on ebay n elsewhere for sale as - " selling for parts - not working "
@nemesisxrox6773
@nemesisxrox6773 2 жыл бұрын
... BTW - Ridgid tools r made by the same manufacturer as Milwaukee - all new versions of cordless r 'first' produced n marketed with the Ridgid branding to see how well they n there certain parts perform and sell over a period of time - IF successful 'those parts' r re-branded or modified for new Milwaukee lines
@802Garage
@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын
A collaboration with the Torque Test Channel to see if the locking affects anything through thorough testing would be great!
@WompWompWoooomp
@WompWompWoooomp 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought too, they're the perfect channel for this.
@cameronck
@cameronck 2 жыл бұрын
project farm enters chat
@ChevyRedneckGFX
@ChevyRedneckGFX 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronck beat me to it
@FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS
@FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS 2 жыл бұрын
🤥🤥🤥🤥🥴
@owynpham1478
@owynpham1478 2 жыл бұрын
That would be very interesting indeed
@cdrive5757
@cdrive5757 2 жыл бұрын
You're correct that the employees of these companies are unaware of this "SECRET" feature. That's because there is NO secret feature. What you are describing on a Key-Less chuck is not a Lock as you believe. It's a Dog mechanism much like what you find in a Ratchet Wrench when you switch the wrench from CW to CCW. In short I would not turn the chuck collar CCW unless I was opening the jaws to remove or insert tooling in the chuck. *"Righty Tighty - Lefty Loosey"*. Wakodahatchee Chris
@stevenx2414
@stevenx2414 2 жыл бұрын
...unless they are left-handed threads and then it is lefty tighty, righty loosey.
@davidcoller5033
@davidcoller5033 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenx2414 Find me a chuck with left handed threads...
@POLYAL0899
@POLYAL0899 2 жыл бұрын
theres no secret feature . . its creating a gap ( endplay ) before releasing happens
@LRN2DIY
@LRN2DIY 2 жыл бұрын
3 Follow-ups: 1) TO UNLOCK THE BIT: Just keep turning counterclockwise. "Locking it" is just seating it in a certain position where it kind of rests and then you just keep going past that to unlock it. 2) Ridgid has a Lifetime Service Agreement, not a warranty. You have to register the tool within 3 months and then it’s covered as long as you own. Same with their batteries. 3) Several folks have mentioned reaching out to Jacobs or Rohn about the chucks themselves. I’ll see what I can find from them.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
I have an older Makita that has the chuck key to tighten.
@freedomconstruction
@freedomconstruction 2 жыл бұрын
How dose no one know this?
@freedomconstruction
@freedomconstruction 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video, this is valuable information. I have told people about it ever sense I’ve learned.
@shadygunshow
@shadygunshow 2 жыл бұрын
there is a much better way. 1 - hold your chuck 2- spin it in reverse until the chuck bottoms out 3 - tighten the chuck onto your bit. trust me you will immediately see what I'm talking about when you go to release your bit again. it will not let go until you want it to let go.
@alexegus71
@alexegus71 2 жыл бұрын
Them tool companies are too busy for you meaning me meaning everyone they have become to good for us little customers to dare to know more than them or accept they don't know something you do.
@HiTechDiver
@HiTechDiver 2 жыл бұрын
I fully expected you to test the drills out on this video. I would think one could cause the accessory to loosen by running the drill in the CCW direction. That often happens when I am using a wire brush, as I spin it in both CW and CCW directions to keep the wires from bending in one direction of travel.
@matthewarchersr.3062
@matthewarchersr.3062 2 жыл бұрын
I can attest to the legitimacy of the locking feature on the DeWalt drills. I, like the reviewer you mentioned, have on occasion had the chuck loosen during repeated forward and reverse drilling/tapping operations. After remembering to lock the chuck, no loosening occurs.
@Goalsplus
@Goalsplus 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! Thanks for saying that. I don't usually have a problem in forward but with repeated forward and reverse I definitely do. Now I see the value!
@802Garage
@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goalsplus This lends credence to my theory that the "locking" does not add any force to the jaws, but simply prevents the chuck from attempting to tighten more, which would also prevent slop in the mechanism, eventually allowing it to loosen if it "skips back" over a click.
@briannewton3535
@briannewton3535 2 жыл бұрын
When the chuck brake kicks in on my Dewalt drills when drilling, the chuck unlocks after about five or six times of the brake kicking in, I gotta try this, it may just improve my life significantly.
@matthewarchersr.3062
@matthewarchersr.3062 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it was the brake kicking in on the reverse drill/tapping operations that was exactly why the chuck would loosen, when I'd forget to lock it.
@andycapped100
@andycapped100 2 жыл бұрын
Just to specify, including 18V?
@jqpublic9777
@jqpublic9777 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm. Have you considered testing to see if the bits are really locked in place or not? Usually if a bit comes out of my keyless chuck, it's when I reverse the drill to back a bit out of a hole that it doesn't want to come out of.
@bensiefker2002
@bensiefker2002 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the click is a detent that locks the chuck just before it is fully tightened to prevent it from loosening during use. By turning the chuck counter clockwise just past the detent releases the lock and the chuck can come loose during use.
@sambrose1
@sambrose1 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This isn't a thing.
@hemplimeoffgridder2236
@hemplimeoffgridder2236 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The video is BS
@nowweknow5803
@nowweknow5803 2 жыл бұрын
I have a P271 Ryobi One+ and it doesn't have any audible click or cluck. When I turn it counterclockwise it just puts it into that limbo where it's ready to be unlocked. I think Simon Gore in the previous comment to this one is pretty spot on with his explanation.
@Apodictic1
@Apodictic1 2 жыл бұрын
When I was working construction as a union lather going through the apprenticeship program and as a journeyman, I wanted to work with all the members in our local. Especial the OG"s I found I was able to learn something from each of them. Some trick or so-called secret to make things easier or faster. By far, most of the OG's wanted to pass on what they knew. I have always been fascinated watching a true craftsman in their trade using their tools and skill to make work easier. This is one of the greatest things about KZbin, is the thing you are able to learn. Thank you for sharing.
@crazyinterestin4287
@crazyinterestin4287 2 жыл бұрын
Union Boilermaker
@andyhastings5950
@andyhastings5950 2 жыл бұрын
Have not heard of it before now, but first thing in the morning I'll try my 5yr old Ryobi and see what happens. It does loose the bit every once in a while.
@Crivicus
@Crivicus 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for years with my Bosch drills in the UK and it totally works. I never realized it wasn't in the manual anymore though. Like others have said here it may be worth looking up the chuck companies they use and see if they know more or if it makes a difference by company. If it isn't in the manual anymore you can bet they don't think to check it and it won't be officially supported should they change the chuck company they buy from.
@eugenepolan1750
@eugenepolan1750 2 жыл бұрын
Did you conduct any experiments with your large assortment of drills to see if they loosened after "Locking" the chuck and then drilling a series of holes?
@crackwitz
@crackwitz 2 жыл бұрын
of course not. that would have ruined the whole premise of the video, defeating the purpose of making it (making back the money spent)
@BlueJayOakerson
@BlueJayOakerson 2 жыл бұрын
I also didn’t see a single Hilti, just the typical Home Depot and harbor freight trash.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueJayOakerson , have you tried to change the brushes in a hilti? i have. non-replaceable brushes. okay, thats alright, i'll just buy another hilti and use the old batteries on the new drill. no i wont. they changed the new model drill so it isnt compatible with previous battery packs. well done hilti. these are reasons why they are now rare on building sites.
@alexandertrowell4032
@alexandertrowell4032 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueJayOakerson Brand loyalty will get you nowhere, I've used good and bad products by them all, including hilti
@metalwheelz
@metalwheelz Жыл бұрын
Maybe the real way to find out, is to use the drill in a manner that requires it to run in reverse and see if the 'bit' will stay tight. This is usually the scenario in which retention problems occur.
@JonScott2002
@JonScott2002 2 жыл бұрын
I gave a drill away once because bits kept falling out - an older Ryobi possibly. I bet this would have solved that problem. Thanks for the report. Great info!
@carolinekinikini5448
@carolinekinikini5448 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@affordabletechsolutions6917
@affordabletechsolutions6917 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Low end tools don't always come with ratcheting chucks. One of the ways the manufacturer save cost and sells them for less.
@noahbannister1834
@noahbannister1834 2 жыл бұрын
My older ryobi doesn’t lock
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 2 жыл бұрын
They don't all lock. My green Ryobi did not.
@marcuswilson7194
@marcuswilson7194 2 жыл бұрын
The drill chuck is clamped and locked with a single hand movement. The radial locking device prevents the unintentional release of the drill bit during counter-clockwise rotation. Impact resistance is a standard at Röhm. That means these quick-action chucks are predestined for use on hand-operated drills, not least due to their weight-reduced design.
@unclvinny
@unclvinny 2 жыл бұрын
How hard would it be to set up some tests of this feature? It’s weird that it’s presented as a kind of black box instead of just trying it a bunch of times with and without the lock to see if there’s any difference.
@Tapionski
@Tapionski 2 жыл бұрын
Because that would prove there's no "secret" feature and couldn't make a clickbait video.
@MaxMineur
@MaxMineur 2 жыл бұрын
He bought all the drills, he literally has them in his hands and asks us what we think.. bro..
@carlovincetti4538
@carlovincetti4538 2 жыл бұрын
Could be a click bait thing because these websites and this one in particular promote this type of behavior as well. Yeah but don't use foul language. That type of behavior is offensive for the public.
@terryfan7403
@terryfan7403 Жыл бұрын
After your video, I ran to get my 12v Makita drill, tighten it with the trigger, then hand tighten 3 clicks, then counterclockwise one click (sounds more like a clonk). It does feel like you’re loosening it and I think that’s why people are calling it a hoax. Anyway, to test, this, I set the speed to 2, press my trigger and disengage abruptly to loosen the bit. Took about 5-6 disengages to loosen the bit. I tried tightening it regularly with the trigger. Took 2-3 disengages to loosen. Tried the trigger tighten with hand tighten, and it took 2-4 disengages to loosen. So it does work. Just doesn’t do a full lock. Still a stronger lock than the other ways. Thank you and subscribed!
@brianmorton1380
@brianmorton1380 2 жыл бұрын
For years I've been thinking keyless chucks were a pain, never guaranteed not to slip. Here's hoping this is the complete answer. Well done for pointing that out.
@tylerk.7947
@tylerk.7947 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used keyless chucks for years and never have had a bit slip
@royjohnson465
@royjohnson465 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerk.7947 I have, the round smooth shank on spiral drill bits (especially when stuck) do slip a lot in keyless chucks of rechargeable drills for me.
@Entropy512
@Entropy512 2 жыл бұрын
@@royjohnson465 I've had a HUGE amount of problems with a wire brush attachment coming loose, I need to try this when I do my front brakes!
@royjohnson465
@royjohnson465 2 жыл бұрын
@@Entropy512 I see, >>a 4, 5, or 6 flat sided shaft "is much better" than a round shaft
@Entropy512
@Entropy512 2 жыл бұрын
@@royjohnson465 I need to double check, but I'm positive that the ones in question were 6-sided shafts - the chuck still loosened anyway
@GigOne
@GigOne 2 жыл бұрын
The feature was put in place for several decades. This was due to the chuck on cordless drills loosening during use. My first cordless DeWalt had the feature and that was back in late-90s. The feature wasn't described in the instruction manual. A friend of mine was a finish carpenter and he told me about it. I purchased another DeWalt cordless a year to a year and a half ago and the feature works, There is a paragraph dedicated to the locking feature in the instruction manual. It's in the section titled, "Installing a Bit or Accessory into a Keyless Chuck (Fig. D).
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle 2 жыл бұрын
Why would a cordless drill loosen and a corded one not? Serious question, not doubting you or anything. 🙂
@did_that_hurt8387
@did_that_hurt8387 2 жыл бұрын
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle most cordless drills are keyless chuck and most corded drills use a chuck key to tighten which gets the bit held tighter usually
@fliedaway
@fliedaway 2 жыл бұрын
@@did_that_hurt8387 Keyless
@did_that_hurt8387
@did_that_hurt8387 2 жыл бұрын
@@fliedaway duh sorry you are correct was half asleep still when I answered lol
@lukaspundzius9293
@lukaspundzius9293 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and there is writen sometimes on the chuck "lock" with arrow pointing. So it is not something the drill manufacturer hiding....
@dwightdyer5899
@dwightdyer5899 2 жыл бұрын
In all my years of using drills I never knew about this feature. Just watched this video and went and checked to see if my Ridgid would do it. Sure enough mine does. Unbelievable you’re never too old to learn something new. I’ll be sharing this secret. Thank you for the video.
@ccbowers
@ccbowers 2 жыл бұрын
I remain skeptical. Just because it clicks, doesn't mean it is a lock. None of the drills or hammer drills I have seen have this "feature" listed in their manuals. And they even describe how to slide a battery on and how to insert a bit.
@MyMike509
@MyMike509 Жыл бұрын
I am by no means a drill expert, but found out about this feature on my dewalt cordless by accident (after the bits kept falling out). I thought it was "the way" to lock them in! It definitely works and I've been too lazy to look at the manual to see if it was a published feature. Thanks for the exhaustive research and great video!
@andr3w1985
@andr3w1985 10 ай бұрын
Check the update video in the description. It isn't a feature, the click you hear is the pawl disengaging the ratchet effectively unlocking it and turning it into a normal ratchet-less chuck.
@linkbond08
@linkbond08 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that click was the beginning of the process of you loosening back the chuck. It sets the ratchet mechanism in reverse and if you keep clicking it you will loosen the chuck all the way. Either way I've never used it, and I've never had issues with bits falling out.
@KunoMochi
@KunoMochi 2 жыл бұрын
This has been really informative! I totally didn't know about this feature. One thing that is like to see, though, is how exactly this works in seating the bit into place. I wonder if anyone has ever taken the bit locking mechanism apart and see how it worked.
@jeremysaunders9916
@jeremysaunders9916 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure exactly how it works as only discovered this a few weeks ago myself but think it works by taking the back lash out so shock can't be transferred through the tightening mechanisium from the bit causing it to loose grip. Hope that makes some kind of sense 😵‍💫
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I literally got up walked into my garage and tried this on 3 drills. It took me a minute to understand what locking meant. Fantastic safety tip and convenience too.
@ogi22
@ogi22 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, i just did the same. Went to my shop and tested. Works!
@remysavary689
@remysavary689 2 жыл бұрын
Lol can you explain what it actually does? I cant understand and i dont think this video was very clear on it, tried on my dewalt, the feature is there but what does it lock?
@SilentRage01
@SilentRage01 2 жыл бұрын
@@remysavary689 It's suppose to lock in the bit.
@seethe42
@seethe42 2 жыл бұрын
@@remysavary689 It locks the chuck in place to however tight you tightened it, It doesn't make the grip any stronger or lock in the bit, it just stops the chuck from accidentally loosening itself over repeated stops and starts.
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 жыл бұрын
@@remysavary689 I am not 100% sure but it seems that by twisting backwards a pin snaps into place but going backward gentle it doesn’t. The gently backward is like loosening by vibration. I tried this on one of my drills and if I am really careful I can loosen slow enough where the locking pin, assuming I am correct in what is happening, does not snap into place. Not exactly sure how the mechanism works. Regardless if it prevents loosening I am going to be doing it.
@АннаВолкова-ъ4э
@АннаВолкова-ъ4э Жыл бұрын
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
@Icantball67
@Icantball67 2 жыл бұрын
I found this info on another KZbin video about a year or 2 ago and sent the info to my work buddies. I’ve confirmed it in use with my Milwaukee hammer drill. I always had problems with having the chuck loosen when using hole saws in cabinets. Started doing this all the time and my issue stopped.
@zan5051
@zan5051 2 жыл бұрын
you got a genuine eyebrow raise out of me, so you've earned a subscription. I have never heard of this feature, but on rare occasions I've had the chuck loosen during a project and i've found it annoying. I look forward to trying this out! Great video, thanks for staying on hold for hours so I don't have to.
@davidingram3281
@davidingram3281 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Thanks for the new intel. My Dewalt 18V cordless hammer drill sometimes loses a bit. Very annoying. Looking forward to trying this out !
@Ohio-Patriot
@Ohio-Patriot 2 жыл бұрын
Well you got me on this one. I didn’t know you could turn it back once to lock it in. I haven’t had problems with bit’s falling out either so I never even thought about it. I knew all the features you were talking about in the last video about the drills but not this one. Great video. 👍🏻👍🏻
@BraxtonAuto
@BraxtonAuto Жыл бұрын
THAT IS SOOO COOL!!!! This will save soo much frustration. I will be able to impress all of my friends and coworkers! Your the best thank you sooo much!!!!
@HypherNet
@HypherNet 2 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you'd test this out with a torque meter, measuring how much force was required to turn something in the chuck with and without locking. Seems pretty easy to test, given that you already have all the drills! Relying on random reddit comments doesn't seem nearly as useful, since that's just an anecdote for a single drill.
@philoso377
@philoso377 2 жыл бұрын
In the 90s or older, some cordless drills has a mechanical device to stop the spindle once trigger-throttle is released. The feature become popular and was taken by most drill tool makes as desirable feature. That creates a new problem, when spindle brakes the chuck’s momentum continues to rotates in the dismount direction causing the bit to fall out. The solution to fall out bits was to add a locking mechanism enable user to lock the chuck manually. As technology progress we have electronic resistance stopping especially those brushless models. The manual locking become a redundant. To avoid confusion and avoid user perception to their product is inferior it was chosen to remove it from the operation manual, while continue producing drills with old stock chuck, chuck with manual locking mechanism.
@craigsampson3386
@craigsampson3386 2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense as my Ryobi R18PD7 model is brushless and doesn't have that feature.
@wildrabbitwoodworking
@wildrabbitwoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would need to see how that works mechanically. I have never dropped a bit because it came loose. I just have a hard time understanding what the "lock" actually locks. I might see if I can find one and break it apart, maybe we can see what it actually does inside.
@ehisey
@ehisey 2 жыл бұрын
Prevents the chuck from spining loose if it rubs on something or vibrating loose.
@jfrog3
@jfrog3 2 жыл бұрын
@@ehisey yes but what physically makes it lock when you turn it one click
@robertn4815
@robertn4815 2 жыл бұрын
My drill bits were slipping out of the chuck while drilling and my guess was that I had worn out the chuck from not backing out enough while drilling. I'll be using this locking mechanism from now on and if my drill bits stop falling out, then you have saved me from needing to buy another drill gun. Thank you.
@BigDaddy-yp4mi
@BigDaddy-yp4mi 2 жыл бұрын
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@MacShawn
@MacShawn 2 жыл бұрын
Something that might worth checking into: 6 or 7 years ago, I had, just through happenstance, to handle/have my hands on several models from different manufacturers. I noticed the vast majority had a similar look and feel to the whole, front collet/collar assembly. The front part that holds the bits. When I did some digging, many times just by looking closely at the assemblies themselves, that regardless of where and by whom the tools were made, almost all of the brands sourced those assemblies from the same, American, manufacturer. If you do some digging you may find the same is true today.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 жыл бұрын
A Jacobs Keyless Chuck. That's what I was going to comment on. Don't look at the drill, look at what keyless chuck manufacturer they're using.
@MacShawn
@MacShawn 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the one! And yes, on the chuck. Shoulda been clearer in my wording. Thank you.
@--RSL--
@--RSL-- 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing for a ton of products. There are millions of things for sale, do you thing there is a dedicated warehouse making parts for each item? No.
@veleriphon
@veleriphon 2 жыл бұрын
AVE talks about that in various videos. Even dissimilar manufacturers use the same chucks.
@thesoundsmith
@thesoundsmith 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that might be the case. I had not heard of this, and it DOES seem counterintuitive. Cool.
@hardlyb
@hardlyb 2 жыл бұрын
I've never had a bit fall out, so I never tried anything other than the tightening step. I always thought that 'click' was the first step in loosening the bit. This is interesting, but I'm more confused than convinced.
@kadmow
@kadmow 2 жыл бұрын
(This is the question - is the click he is describing - (yes my drill has the ratcheting feature, and if it is engaged (without the one back click) there is no way the brake or "stop/start" budges the chuck ring...) - actually the detent preparing the ratchet to be released, or actually disengaging the ratchet.... I only spin drills occasionally - due to not tightening enough (even collets loose grip on small drill bits..) not due to the chuck "coming loose.
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 11 ай бұрын
If turning counter-clockwise locks it, then how do you loosen it? And what does "locking it" even mean when the bit is supposed to be friction-fit into place in the chuck?
@DrLIRAAAAAAA
@DrLIRAAAAAAA 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Brazil. I have a DeWalt cordless drill/impact driver similar to the one you showed in the video. It has this locking mechanism, however the locking feature is in the same direction as tightening the drillbit and it does show in the manual!
@crackwitz
@crackwitz 2 жыл бұрын
this video is disinformation. backing it off actually disengages the lock. AvE debunks this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqvXc2R5bMl4iMU
@duanemiller5606
@duanemiller5606 2 жыл бұрын
The chucks are basically all made by probably even fewer companies than all the different brands. It is basically a subassembly they purchase and put on their drill. So what you really need to do to find out about it being real would be to find out where they get their chucks at. You might wanna try going on Amazon and checking out the different people who supply drill chucks.
@claudyfocan731
@claudyfocan731 2 жыл бұрын
Röhm is where its at
@MaxwellVador
@MaxwellVador 2 жыл бұрын
Videos like this is why people were mad the dislikes were removed
@JWolff-md3ij
@JWolff-md3ij 11 ай бұрын
I'm impressed with your legwork. I might've called all those companies, but I'd off never purchased all those drills. True dedication sir.
@Snowy84557
@Snowy84557 2 жыл бұрын
The locking mechanism is supposed to engage without you needing to turn it backwards. If you don't have a problem with bits falling out then your drill is working fine. Doesn't need to be in the manual.
@SteveBrodkin
@SteveBrodkin 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed simply because bravo for dealing with all that customer service. Including the recordings was super helpful too. Great video, this was new to me too.
@pflaffik
@pflaffik 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including my comment in your video. They dont slip into the right place when you take it a click back, its just the internal sleeve being undone. From there you only turn a little bit more and the bit is loose. Test with round drillbits, not with hex. There is no one click back to lock, just an intermediate position before you starts loosening the chuck. By the way, talk to Yukiwa.
@LRN2DIY
@LRN2DIY 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info. That's what I'm suspicious of. I'm hearing very mixed feedback in the comments here already but I'll keep digging. I see that Yukiwa is a chuck manufacturer but do they make the chucks for any of these brands? I'm not too familiar with them so I don't know.
@oldcoinchaser8723
@oldcoinchaser8723 2 жыл бұрын
I tried the round bits in my drill and it works perfectly. No problem at all
@deepollan2667
@deepollan2667 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Dewalt, and I also had a problem with bits falling out, till I tried you suggestion, now no more annoying fall outs. Thank you
@Al-Fiallos
@Al-Fiallos 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, I have two cordless DeWalt drills, a DC970 and a DCD791, both of which have the counter-clockwise locking feature. My Makita also has this feature. Good to know. Thanks for posting.
@rwschumm
@rwschumm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi - Interesting feature and video discussion. However, the bottom line is to test this 'feature' and find out if 'locking the bit in' (whatever that means) has any effect at all in keeping the bit or tool tight, before it slips in the chuck... IE, does this process increase the amount of torque you can drive with before slippage. Otherwise, who cares?
@uglypinkeraser
@uglypinkeraser 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't hold the bit any tighter, it basically disengages the ratchet so if the drill stops suddenly (as cordless drills do) the inertial of the moving chuck doesn't loosen the ratchet, which would loosen the bit.
@timbuktu9569
@timbuktu9569 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by your information about this "hidden feature" but right away I went to my regular GSB 21-2 RCT Impact drill and discovered the same effect which you described concerning all those cordless drills. However - in all those years since I am using this regular impact drill, I never had any problem with loose bits, forstner bits or other tools used in this drill's tool mount. Following this, I will stick with my habit to fasten my tools with several right-turn-clicks and only use left turns afterwards when I want to remove this tool from the drill.
@RK-kn1ud
@RK-kn1ud 2 жыл бұрын
People who actually use tools in any significant manner will agree...even if there is a mechanical reason why you should do this, it does not matter.
@nunbaiter
@nunbaiter 2 жыл бұрын
@@RK-kn1ud I disagree and my cordless drill has been my second most used tool for 26 years, I drill large wells in living trees hardwood and soft my bit always loosens randomly , but my local AEG rep showed me this feature when I upgraded to an AEG fusion drill. It saves me a lot of time. Now my problem is remembering spare batteries so I'm not leaving bits in trees ☺️
@RK-kn1ud
@RK-kn1ud 2 жыл бұрын
@@nunbaiter I'm not sure of the size/design//manufacturer of your chuck or drill, but I have probably drilled 100,000+ holes per year over 20 years with a 1/2" DeWalt cordless drill and never had an issue. That includes drilling tons of 304SS, mild steel, masonry, and various types of construction lumber. I may have had an issue when I tightened the chuck but accidentally left the adjustable clutch on, but that's more of a "my bad" than a chuck issue.
@nunbaiter
@nunbaiter 2 жыл бұрын
@@RK-kn1ud I think it's the nature of what I do , I think the oils and sap fuse to my bit under heat , for my purpose I pull the bit out of the hole while still at high forward revs I think that's why the feature is great for me 👍 . My drill is cordless 18v AEG 'Fusion'. And auger bits from 8mm to 40 mm (sorry I'm metric).
@tpuser42675
@tpuser42675 2 жыл бұрын
How do we know it is actually locking ? Just one click back, isn't it just loosening the bit by one click ? Yet still holding tight ?
@gakkooll
@gakkooll 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't taking it apart or cutting the chuck in half to reveal the mechanical function help to clarify this matter? I think that would make for another interesting video.
@A_Price1884
@A_Price1884 2 жыл бұрын
This really surprised me actually, because I do this with my Milwaukee and DeWalt drills. I never knew it was a hidden feature, I’ve always just subconsciously done it to give it a little bit more bite. Very interesting video 👍🏼
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
That's counterintuitive. Why would you subconsciously turn it backwards to give it more bite?
@SilentRage01
@SilentRage01 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreytohme9861 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JJ_ExMachina
@JJ_ExMachina 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreytohme9861 It's doesn't give it more bite, it locks the ratcheting mechanism in place so it won't vibrate loose. Röhm or Jacobs make many of the ratcheting chucks you find on drills... it was a feature listed in the 1990s when the ratcheting chucks first came to market. Companies like "Dewalt" are owned by other companies, in this example Stanley Black & Decker is the parent company. The parts for Dewalt drills are manufactured by other companies, and "Dewalt" doesn't know exactly what they are using. They just know that the ratcheting chucks meet their overall needs and they utilize those products. Basically when you rotate back one click, you are setting the ratcheting paws into a locked position and it prevents the bit gripping mechanism from loosening under vibration. It is useful when using the "hammer" feature of drills for masonry work. Not sure if you have ever used a ratcheting screwdriver, but they have a "center" setting that prevents the chuck from rotating. This is very similar to how the ratcheting chuck mechanism works.
@coreytohme9861
@coreytohme9861 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJ_ExMachina I understand what it does. I am trying to understand how doing something counterintuitive came to you subconsciously. I would never have thought that turning the chuck in the "loosening" direction would have locked it.
@JJ_ExMachina
@JJ_ExMachina 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreytohme9861 Not the OP... nothing subconscious about the drills here... The information is in the owner's manual of the drills I purchased a while ago. Not sure about the OP, but the information is/was available.
@radicalrick9587
@radicalrick9587 2 жыл бұрын
*Thanks a lot, you have me dressing up and running out at 3am the morning to my car to get all my drills to test this feature.* *The Walmart branded 18v and 20v HYPER TOUGH impact drills definitely had it. The regular 20v drill was hard to tell.* *I can see how this is useful because sometimes when working the bits, etc. will fall out. This feature would keep the bit holder from coming loose when you're drilling or tightening or loosening, etc... things.*
@hemplimeoffgridder2236
@hemplimeoffgridder2236 2 жыл бұрын
The video is wrong. Check AvE on YT or schematics showing the chuck ratchet mechanism.
@djpon4141
@djpon4141 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a breakdown of the chuck mechanism and an explanation as to how the locking function works.
@bengilbert4738
@bengilbert4738 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly !!! this is what I was thinking… I’m not really sure about this so called lock feature… my point is…. I’ve never in my life needed an EXTRA “LOCK FEATURE” to help me operate any drill to accomplish any job… I’ll be scratching my headed on this one for a long time until someone can show me how this really mechanically works… just doesn’t make sense
@royjohnson465
@royjohnson465 2 жыл бұрын
YES, "why" are some rechargeable drill manufacturing companies (not all) purposely "hiding" this information (being "not" in some user manual instructions) from the public on how to use this particular chuck locking feature!!??
@saiiiiiii1
@saiiiiiii1 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengilbert4738 Not to mention it would be a pretty weird feature anyway, cause if you turn just a tiny little bit too much, the drill bit comes completely lose again.
@jimmySWphilly
@jimmySWphilly 2 жыл бұрын
Ave
@d.e.b.b5788
@d.e.b.b5788 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmySWphilly He would be my choice, too.
@curtisemery807
@curtisemery807 Жыл бұрын
You ought to get a medal for the amount of effort and the level of thoroughness you put into your videos. Truly impressive. Well done (and I don’t think you stumbled over a single word - you ought to be a newsreader, one who doesn’t need a teleprompter.)
@Andy-zs3jb
@Andy-zs3jb 2 жыл бұрын
I am a little skeptical that it actually locks it in place by twisting it in reverse. I have been playing with mine, it seems when I tighten the chuck, the large click seems to engage the ratchet where you hear smaller clicks and loosing it disengages the ratchet. From my experience, the service people really don't know much and assume because that's what they hear. I would want to speak to an engineer for a real answer (good luck with that.) If someone has a direct contact with AvE, he would probably be more than willing to research this.
@troubleshooter1975
@troubleshooter1975 2 жыл бұрын
Me too... I'm scanning these comments to see if anyone has suggested* or done a tear-down and inspection. THAT would also be definitive. There are many industrial or consumer products that employ cam mechanisms that can do different things contingent on preceding actions... [I haven't combed through all 800 some comments yet, LOL] *edit: Oops, I already see it has been suggested; @Fearsome Warrior
@TheStevester2
@TheStevester2 2 жыл бұрын
AvE just posted a video, breakdown of course. So yeah, turning it one click backwards disengages the ratcheting pawl to allow the chuck to be loosened. It's not in the manual because it's not a feature
@hemplimeoffgridder2236
@hemplimeoffgridder2236 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see others watching AvE. AvE is an artist of linguistics, profanity and tool tear downs. I suspect this video is clickbait ad monetising, praying on the weak of mind. I'm sensitive of wrist but I'll still crank chuck until I warm my palm. I do wonder though if the click back mechanism is better for the gear mechanism though. ?
@TheStevester2
@TheStevester2 2 жыл бұрын
@@hemplimeoffgridder2236 of you buy a skookum choocher it'll last 🤷‍♂️ I admire Ave, cause I abuse my tools like he does.
@hemplimeoffgridder2236
@hemplimeoffgridder2236 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStevester2 likewise. I like to crank them hard. I've succumbed to the milfucccy foolishness but maybe someday I'll see the light.
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by locking in the bit? The bit is locked in by the pressure of the jaws just as with any Jacobs style chuck. It will only fall out if you didn’t get it tight enough. As a retired engineer, I’d like to hear something about this from an engineer at one of these companies. I personally suspect this click is simply the reset operation that allows the pawls inside to shift from tightening to loosening, basically like switching direction on a ratchet. I am not buying the “locking the bit” claim as the bit is locked by tightening of the jaws. After you “lock” the bit, what do you have to do to loosen the chuck and remove the bit? Do you have to turn it again in the tightening direction before you can loosen the chuck? Or can you just turn the chuck in the loosening direction as normal? If the latter, then this further supports that the click is just the pawl changing direction. If you have to turn the chuck back in the tightening direction to release the “lock”, then that provides support for the locking theory. And even then, it wouldn’t be locking the bit, it would be locking the chuck collar to prevent inadvertent loosening of the chuck.
@michaelwarren2391
@michaelwarren2391 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - this is the same question I had: What does it lock?
@davidcollins2191
@davidcollins2191 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to post this theory, as well. My guess is the "click" you are feeling with the initial reverse motion on the chuck is the internal mechanism transitioning from ratcheting in one direction, to ratcheting in the other direction. I would like to see a cut-away diagram of the chuck, and how this "locking" mechanism is supposed to work. Sounds unlikely to me.
@leesands892
@leesands892 2 жыл бұрын
LT . . . from one mechanical engineer to another, You have presented thus far the best (and correct) response to "all" whom think there is a "special feature" with a keyless chuck to lock in a drill bit! I did however find it entertaining reading most of the replies of which only a select few were correct like you. My preference is still an independent 3-jaw chuck over the keyless. (Tighten each jaw separate, and twice lol). Funny thing about innovation/technology, Always a "sacrifice" in something when adopting to "new & improved".
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
@@leesands892 Well, not a mechanical engineer in the sense of degree, as I have CS, EE and CE/SE degrees, but I did start out life in aerospace engineering before switching midstream to computer science for my first degree. 😁. However, I have maintained and repaired my own cars, trucks, motorcycles, furnaces, boilers, etc. for nearly 50 years so experience plays a role as well.
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
@@leesands892 I just found this. Excellent explanation with a patent reference. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqvXc2R5bMl4iMU
@mikefranks4528
@mikefranks4528 Жыл бұрын
Great sleuthing! I had NO idea that this was a THING. Good to know. Will be using this feature from here on out. Love the channel. Keep it coming!
@LRN2DIY
@LRN2DIY Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it’s not a real feature. Check out the follow up video for even deeper digging.
@stefanleijon9637
@stefanleijon9637 2 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting! I have always noticed that click when you´re loosening the bit and wondered whats it for but never thought any more about it. Bits falling out has happened to me every now and then, but most of the times has been when using a hole saw, especially if you are starting and stopping a lot, so maybe that´s a good way to test this feature.
@jamesfair9751
@jamesfair9751 2 жыл бұрын
Your experience is perfect example of what this is for. It locks the chuck in place to keep reverse inertia from loosening the chuck which happens quite more often with larger sized bits such as a hole saw. When the chuck spinning at 2000 rpm comes to a halt all of a sudden the inertia would loosen the chuck of not for this feature.
@HeadbangerTomcat
@HeadbangerTomcat 2 жыл бұрын
Well what do you know, I’ve learned something new today. I’ve just tried this tip on my Ryobi R18PD5-120G One+ 18V Brushless Drill, and it works. The click isn’t quite as loud as some of the drills on the video, but you can feel it. Practicing it a couple of times “dials” it into your memory. I’ve never actually had any problems before with bits coming loose, but this is a handy tip to know all the same. Thanks for the video.👍
@hristomirchev4026
@hristomirchev4026 2 жыл бұрын
I once experienced the same thing as the reviewer said at the end of the video on Amazon. I was drilling holes in wood so I was tightening the chuck without the counterclockwise thing (locking the chuck) and the bit was unscrewing itself and kept falling. I heard about the locking feature not long ago and I tried it then and everything was fine. So I have to say that it works. I'm using a Parkside tools which is a Lidl brand and they are selling these tools. This feature is available only on 20 volt drills and not on 12 volt ones
@ytteman
@ytteman 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 16 Volt Parkside/Lidl PABS 16 B3, and it doesn't have this feature.
@Zcalicer
@Zcalicer 2 жыл бұрын
I love the amount of effort youve put into this piece; keep up the good work!
@richardlibby2407
@richardlibby2407 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like an opportunity to partner with a machining channel to take the chucks apart and understand how it works! Nice job!
@joshspohn4613
@joshspohn4613 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was going to ask the same question. Would be cool to see how it’s made.
@BeforeAndAfterScience
@BeforeAndAfterScience 2 жыл бұрын
That's what's up.
@michaelkeymont501
@michaelkeymont501 2 жыл бұрын
Ave. He could use the jaws of life to open them up…
@jimmySWphilly
@jimmySWphilly 2 жыл бұрын
But does it scookum
@TheIdeasGuy
@TheIdeasGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this is a feature. I run Makita and tend to find that when using something other than a small drill bit in the drill (such as paint mixers etc.) the vibrations tend to loosen the chuck and drop the attachment out quite quickly if I don’t lock it in. I was having a bunch of issues with this some time ago and, completely by chance, happened across this feature somewhere on the internet. Started locking the chuck and stopped losing attachments the same day.
@izoyt
@izoyt 2 жыл бұрын
yes, and it is why this is feature on drills with hammer function etc.
@twentysevenlitres
@twentysevenlitres 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was thinking along the same lines. I failed to see how it would hold something like a drill tighter, but did think it might lock the ratchetting mechanism down to prevent it undoing. I can't see any other reason for this feature.
@pebosk
@pebosk 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, great video, I love the topic! I've always had the issue of bits coming loose, even falling out while using the chuckless drills. I'm hoping this in fact does work, it'll save me a lot of headaches. I can't wait to try it out. Thanks!!
@compgutt
@compgutt 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate. I run Dewalt, and a couple of months ago I jammed a drill bit in the chuck and couldn't remove it. Took it into the shop, they got the bit out and asked me if I turned the chuck back one click after tightening, which apparently doesn't loosen the chuck but stops it tightening to much and jamming the drill bit. And it works for sure. Thanks.......Damon from Australia.
@dmc3067
@dmc3067 2 жыл бұрын
If I were to guess (never really thought about how a keyless chuck works until now)I would say this is less of a “feature” and more of an artefact of having a ratchet when incrementally tightening anything combined with a omnidirectional torque adjustment mechanism. All the backing off seems to be doing is releasing the torque back tension in the chuck which may, if the chuck is not tightened properly to start with, cause the jaws to loosen up. The design engineers are probably well aware of this effect, but it isn’t included in any manual as you aren’t “locking” anything, just releasing a bit of back tension that may or may not help depending on the drill.
@ReviewTechAFRICA
@ReviewTechAFRICA 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only correct comment. Nothing is being locked. You're removing the tension of the last "click" so the ratchet will be in-between clicks (hence the slop). It is harder to jar the chuck loose when there is slop compared to when it is under tension (more potential energy when loosened). Like this guy said, you ARE loosening it by one click so if it wasn't tight enough to begin with you'll have an unsecured bit.
@Musicdude14z
@Musicdude14z 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you really wanted to validate this feature was designed and intended by engineers, you'd need to go patent hunting. In any ratcheting mechanism patent, they'll go through and painstakingly describe all the features and why they are innovative to protect their research investment / IP. So they'd be motivated to describe any such feature in the original patent for the mechanism.
@amosbackstrom5366
@amosbackstrom5366 2 жыл бұрын
This little "trick" actually disengages the locking mechanism. The click is the pawl lifting off the gear so it can be loosened. How anyone could believe this tightens it further is beyond.
@RyanPedersen
@RyanPedersen 2 жыл бұрын
Watch AvE s video on this. He shows the patents
@alwayserik
@alwayserik Жыл бұрын
You don't need to tighten anything... To lock: Tighten clockwise until you hear just 1 click. Your drill bit will never come loose. It's a misconception that you need to add "extra" tightness to your bits. To unlock: Tighten clockwise until you hear additional clicks (frees the lock) and then spin counterclockwise (the 1 more click indicates switch from clutch to bit holder control)
@mickeymouse4897
@mickeymouse4897 11 ай бұрын
Obviously never owned power tools with keyless chucks
@moardub
@moardub Жыл бұрын
That seems super counterintuitive but I'm glad to know this is a thing! Also lol...just got a "chuck" Norris ad after this video 😂.
@gamesforyoutwo
@gamesforyoutwo 2 жыл бұрын
Learned this a few years ago doing a job at a tool repair center, that was open while we renovated a section of the building, right next to the tool drop off area. I overhead so many good tool tips, but this is one I’m always repeating even to men many times my senior. Great tip thanks for sharing.
@jennessalynam7682
@jennessalynam7682 2 жыл бұрын
I own a porter-cable 20v lithium cordless drill and I am totally going to check to see if mine has this feature, right now! Update: YES absolutely it does "lock" when I tried it. Awesome video, thanks for sharing this! I'm going to tell everyone I know what I've learned from you. 😁 New Update: I apologize. Mine does not actually "lock" when turning it back into the unlock direction. Mine does however make a clicking sound when I turn it just a bit more going towards the actual locking direction. Again I apologize and thank you for your comments.
@quantumss
@quantumss 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, how do you know that its locked and what good does it do for you.
@jennessalynam7682
@jennessalynam7682 2 жыл бұрын
@@quantumss Cause after "locking" it, I then actually used the drill to drill through a piece of oak and the drill bit stayed in place better than before.
@gakjarr
@gakjarr 2 жыл бұрын
I also have the Porter Cable 20v Lithium Cordless Drill and I tried this right after I viewed this video. It does not have the feature. It only loosens the chuck when I turn it in the opposite direction from tightening.
@jennessalynam7682
@jennessalynam7682 2 жыл бұрын
@@gakjarr I apologize and you are correct. I have also updated my original comment.
@_Miner
@_Miner 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see someone actually tear down some chucks and confirm this once and for all.
@samuellamontagne6657
@samuellamontagne6657 2 жыл бұрын
Check out AvE’s channel
@LRN2DIY
@LRN2DIY 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious because I've seen AvE's stuff and even searched his channel - did you see a video that actually addresses this specific question? I couldn't seem to find one.
@sedeplacer
@sedeplacer 4 ай бұрын
Wow. All this information and research for an 8 minute video. Your dedication and hard work are truly impressive.
@802Garage
@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard of this and I use it all the time. Since it wasn't in the manuals I never knew if it actually worked or if it was just a noise made by the natural function of the ratcheting mech. Great work actually contacting the brands, though of course how real the info you get is will depend on the day, who you talk to, their mood, the alignment of the planets. I think this is an intended feature, but I don't see how it could add additional grip strength to the jaws. It may prevent the chuck from trying to tighten another click and failing, causing back and forth movement which I suppose could cause loosening. That's about all I can think of. Someone needs to tear the drills down and see how it works! Crazy these companies don't document it.
@vaexperience
@vaexperience 2 жыл бұрын
Been doing this to my bosch drills for a while now after discovering it via random video. Never had any issues so unsure if it improves anything. I presume they don't include it so not to confuse people in their manuals that can't be experienced or understood without actually trying it out. Because it's not just a click, you also can feel a different kind of give than than the ratchet tightening
@joelmauldin6961
@joelmauldin6961 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered a long time ago on various cordless drills (most of my experience was with DeWalt) that you could back it off a bit where the chuck suddenly moves freely a small amount) without loosening it, but I always just assumed it was some play in the locking mechanism during a change in the direction of the chuck rotation. I never considered it might be a feature. I'll have to test it out a bit as I do occasionally have issues with heavier bits falling out if I start and stop the drill a number of times at high speed.
@jjbat150
@jjbat150 2 жыл бұрын
Word !
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjbat150 Yes you typed a word now can you type a sentence.
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillhuddleston9445 just
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillhuddleston9445 one
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillhuddleston9445 word
@radishpea6615
@radishpea6615 2 жыл бұрын
what is to be gained by turning the chuck anti clockwise? The chuck is already tight or does it tighten it a bit more?
@2far2c28
@2far2c28 2 жыл бұрын
Well done sir! After 15 years of using drills with keyless chucks, this is the first I've ever heard of that feature.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 2 жыл бұрын
It’s auto activated from inertia so it’s not something the user has to be aware of.
@Mrsteve4761
@Mrsteve4761 2 жыл бұрын
Great sleuth work! And I shall surely try this on my Hitachi/Metabo to see if I get the same slop as you did or a more positive engagement "click". However, I have now learned another fact I'll surely forget down the road with how infrequently I use the drill in my old age 😆
@paulrichards13
@paulrichards13 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video explaining how the mechanism works and maybe a test seeing if the pressure increases with the reverse click. Maybe you could use a pencil and chuck it up super light and count the clicks and pull it out from the drill then do the same with the reverse click and see if it dents the pencil more.
@snower13
@snower13 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it prevents the chuck from de-rotating, not actually applying more clamping force. But IDK.
@DFWJon
@DFWJon 2 жыл бұрын
@@snower13 THANK YOU!!! People just do not listen or they hear something and understand it differently or something. It does NOT apply any more force to the drill bit or attachment installed in the chuck. It ONLY keeps the chuck from loosening up from where you tightened it. If you only half tighten it and lock it down with the reverse click then that is all the clamping pressure you’re getting. Same as when you tighten it as tight as it will go. That’s it. It only keeps the chuck from loosening up due to vibration and repeated stops and starts!!! Geez Louise… god help some of these people. Read the comments… everyone thinks that it applies more clamping force but it doesn’t.
@JJ_ExMachina
@JJ_ExMachina 2 жыл бұрын
Think of it like the middle setting on a retching screwdriver. When you rotate back one click the retching paws are now set in a fixed position and won't allow the gripping mechanism to loosen. Not to say a drill bit won't still slip in the chuck, since most have a smooth round shape to them. BUT bits with flats won't shake loose.
@zachreyhelmberger894
@zachreyhelmberger894 2 жыл бұрын
I have had bits fall out when i'm using the clutch. The vibrations from the clutch pry untightens the chuck if you don't have it on super tight. So I will definitely try it out. It would improve my work performance...
@bradhurd6097
@bradhurd6097 2 жыл бұрын
I have spent the last three months building a deck with my mostly Dewalt tools. I can confirm that the bit keeps falling out of the DC720. I’m going to try this feature from now on. My deck is done now so if it works then I will do a head slap 😵‍💫
@locksmitty13
@locksmitty13 2 жыл бұрын
Drill chucks are one of those things that alot of tool manufacturers will buy fully assembled off the shelf from another company and then put on their tools. I've seen chucks from Jacobs on several different makes of drill, usually the pricier models, but i assume theres probably other go to chuck manufacturers the major brands use. I'm a Makita guy and the first time I heard about this feature was 7 or 8 years ago on one of their promotional videos, but I've used alot of different drills over the years and generally if I feel the chuck ratchet i check to see if its got the locking feature. Most of the time I feel a click.
@Pomaufour
@Pomaufour 2 жыл бұрын
Dude AvE proved this is a hoax. Released a vid 5h ago
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a click. That is the chuck beginning to UNLOCK.
@rivernet62
@rivernet62 2 жыл бұрын
I see I'm not the first to make this observation, but I'll second the idea: I notice that after making several holes and stopping the drill quickly (by releasing the trigger immediately), the chuck can loosen from its rotational inertia making a counterrotation. I assume this well hidden feature is to avoid this annoying effect. Nice find!
@bobhodson7640
@bobhodson7640 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this feature before, but I am glad I watched your channel and I will try it out for my self....Thanks.
@thargar141
@thargar141 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone here see the AvE video yet?
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