"Your Favorite Music Sucks" (and other misconceptions)

[@Jack-bo8xh]

“People growing up on social media with the world on their fingertips are easily bored” haunts me.

[@savinsnsn]

It's a hell of a good phrase

[@caggianofoda]

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[@savinsnsn]

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[@loginader5475]

Spooky

[@tyronecriss23]

Scarcity brings abundance, Abundance breeds scarcity

[@Bartholomule01]

I feel this. People act like Anthony Fantano absolutely hates an album when he gives it a 6 or a 7 when objectively he doesn't even really dislike an album more than be likes it until a 4.

[@MelMelodyWerner]

I think it's fair to find the reasoning for a 6 or 7 shoddy, but it's also an entirely subjective rating scale, so everyone is going to have different criteria for a 6 and a 10. still, I've had albums I adore get YUNO'd, and I think that is a far worse fate than a 7. I don't ever get in a tiff about it tho cuz it's just a different opinion, even if heretical. Fiona Apple fans are officially of lesser fortitude than Sudan Archives fans. (/s, for those who need it.)

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Yes. This. I am sick of people acting like Fantano thinks a 6-7 album is bad. "Oh, he liked it, but not as much as IIIIIIIIII liked it". Oh screw you!

[@jeremyusreevu237]

@@MelMelodyWerner "I've had albums I adore get YUNO'd, and I think that is a far worse fate than a 7." Why, though? That's just a quick series of videos for Fantano to talk about albums he missed, similar to Mark from SpectrumPulse's On The Pulse series. That doesn't mean he dislikes the album, it just means that he didn't have time to review it, or he just missed it completely. Fantano is just one guy, he can only review so many albums.

[@MaestroKatProductions]

@@jeremyusreevu237 Ngl, lots of my fave albums (especially metal) get YUNO'd time to time, but I respect Anthony for doing that and at least acknowledging them! Hearing what he doesn't like of a fave album is refreshing sometimes, and also helps to serve as a comparison of which music aspects that both him and me differ on.

[@mariokarter13]

You can blame the public school system where anything less than an 80% basically means you're on the verge of flunking.

[@imanolvides3185]

Your fantano take was excellent. Sadly very few care about his insightful commentary and just care about the score. His critiques/praises have helped me find great new artists to enjoy

[@imanolvides3185]

@@anatols911 agreed

[@6oseph]

I think because of how detailed he gets with each review is what drives people to watch his reviews. There are A LOT of reviewers who are extremely biased & unprofessional.

[@scifinerd17]

I always thought they just do it for the memes

[@joebidenjr5902]

I think his fanbase is toxic and insufferable. No problem with Fantano

[@MelMelodyWerner]

@@anatols911 no. review scores are fine. they aren't "quantifying art", just quantifying his opinions. for someone who has listened to and criticized so many albums, it is a useful tool that means the guy can quickly summarize his thoughts without making thorough analyses of every review he does. that is the point of them, they are easy to understand, and unless you can think of a better way of doing that, he's clearly not going to budge on this anytime soon--nor should he.

[@Myname-cp9kr]

I believe that because music is so personal, and tied to so many things about a person, when someone critiques music that is personal to you it feels like they are critiquing you.

[@grahamsheehan955]

I think a big factor that causes people to spew out their initial opinion of an album/movie straight away is how fast the conversation moves onto the next thing, whatever it may be, in the age of the internet. Most people don't want to sit back and reflect on what they have just listened to/watched before sharing their opinion.

[@SpaceW-]

My favorite band recently released an album and I didn’t feel good about rating it until a week later when I had listened to it 10+ times at that point. People will be like “oh I didn’t like that I couldn’t get into it” but they only listened to the first song and a half. People gotta chill and try to enjoy things

[@Josie.770]

@@SpaceW- If they don't enjoy the initial experience what's going to keep them listening to get to "the good part"?

[@TadValente]

It’s the constant barrage of images under postmodernity / late stage capitalism that constrains people’s psyche into temporal micro-slices, damaging our ability to place our current society into historical context.

[@SpaceW-]

@@Josie.770 if listening to an album that’s probably only 30m-1h total is “too long to get to the good part” we as a species are doomed. Tik tok has absolutely slaughtered our attention spans

[@Josie.770]

@@SpaceW- Quite the leap.

[@refusingtoconform]

We're also forgetting that some people don't understand that "iconic" doesn't mean "good" or "bad." An icon has no inherent qualities attached to it other than the opinion that something is memorable and can be perceived as representative of a person, era, project, or other idea. Just as Ubisoft perceived their Watch Dogs snapback as an "iconic" piece of video game apparel, I perceive Ubisoft as an "icon of corporatism sucking the lifeblood out of their intellectual property."

[@aryavart296]

I liked Watch Dogs

[@refusingtoconform]

@@aryavart296 Literally my point exactly. No one's calling Watch Dogs, the game, the product, bad. My comment was strictly about Ubisoft calling Adian Pierce's HAT iconic and how there's no inherent quality to be an icon. Michael Jackson is an icon but that doesn't make all of his music good. Marilyn Manson is an icon but that doesn't make his crimes forgivable. Missing the Point 101

[@aryavart296]

@@refusingtoconform Fair enough

[@RebelHound]

the other day I recommended a track to someone, they didn’t even get through the intro before they rejected it and said that it’s not their thing. it ain’t even that it wasn’t their thing that stung, just the fact that they didn’t take the time to listen to it at all.. I can’t form an opinion on something unless I get involved with it at least a little first, so I wonder how people can move so fast on platforms like tiktok. not everything need to be deep or intellectual or slow, but this constant barrage of nothing but short and fast, it melts my brain man there’s no real point to any of this, just wanted to share my experience

[@soysauze2468]

Just wanted to say I feel you. I need to take a break from all this, I'm starting to get that feeling of meaninglessness seeing all the constant bickering and arguing about nothing. We just need some time to reflect I guess

[@gilbertoflores7397]

It also goes in the opposite direction, look at podcast, they're hours long done like multiple times a week. You either have a short attention span or an incredibly long one.

[@maxresdefault_]

I think that music plays such a uniquely important role in our lives that any critique of a song/artist can feel deeply personal for some. People build entire identities around this stuff.

[@prod.bycamcortez8028]

One day I just had to realize that there's 7 Billion people in this world, and social media made it accessible for folks who don't deserve an opinion to have one

[@wardsquidcirca1999]

GOAT comment

[@vjmcgovern]

True, though I think everyone deserves to have an opinion but we should all be respectful when we share opinions. Otherwise, yeah I agree, idiots need to shut up sometimes

[@herison7554]

There's an irony to this comment, because I think this is exactly the kind of ideology alfo is describing in this video. People are entitled to their opinions, but that's all they are, a personal opinion. There's a difference between disagreeing with someone and boiling their opinion down to the most reductive and snappy short statement possible. Advocating for the latter (inadvertently or otherwise) doesn't help anyone involved and distracts from actual discussion and debate that could be had

[@travisscottburber5719]

@Regent Mills My opinion is that he should have been on mr morale and it would be cool if kendrick was on mmesyf

[@CarrotAndCo]

Completely true But there's 8 billion now

[@ericl9738]

I think what really bothers me is when people get mad at someone for liking a song or album… like, you don’t have to like it, just leave them alone and let them enjoy it lol. Music critics seemingly never do this, but fans definitely do.

[@mjjjermaine]

This was an interesting video. I don’t agree that media literacy is at an all time low, but rather that the internet has primed many people to look for red flags “hidden” in any and every statement. It seems like the same thing, but I think there’s a fine line of difference. Overall it is interesting to hear from a content creator how difficult it can be to create content that’s truthful to your experiences and have that be distorted to mean something else entirely. It must be incredibly frustrating.

[@duke86fan]

this is 100% what i see too... it kinda feels like online people have to make the assumptions and find the subtext just in case, they don't want to be duped by some kind of fraud or grifter who is just using you for another goal. even pretty basic statements you have to filter through a persons entire previous history and what it COULD mean when they say that.. because people have been scammed or betrayed enough where they need to find things that aren't even there because they don't know what the red flags are and if they see them or not.. because if you believe or accept person bad... you are also bad... and that's bad

[@arko9151]

Thank you for making this video! I've realized for a long time that nuance has been lost today, it's always black or white. It's always the goat, trash, or mid. It's always "he's right!" or "she's wrong!" never "they're right in some parts but I don't agree with X and Y"

[@Knight1029]

I think the thing to remember is that online discourse is so toxic and riddled with people who only speak in hyperbole. You mentioned cinemasins on how they talk about media in a very black or white way that there was pioneered by them. They had such an influence on online discussion that people assume it is the norm or that is just what it is expected. Obviously that shouldn't apply to you but I think a lot of people are with the expectations that people are just going to give black or white opinions.

[@gliitchtheartist]

Very well put. I don’t think I’ve seen many other people talk about this issue, and those who have talked about it haven’t put it quite as well as you have. I think this is a very important issue with media and consumption of media in the internet age, where it’s mostly about what can get the biggest reaction in the least amount of time. Great job covering this

[@KENZIERISK]

Thanks for making this video, it really made me think about how I view media and peoples opinions on it, I've realized that I view many opinions as nearly objective fact, and I don't really analyze and enjoy media for myself, but because I want to have an opinion on it to express. I guess this is what can happen when chronically online since early childhood. Great Video.

[@original_shmirko_account]

If you look at the world with social media as your lens, you will think no one likes music in a way that seems like they are even enjoying it 😂It's like they either hate everything or need to defend the things they love instead of just listening to whatever they like and just being content with that.

[@Gravity_Mike]

Really enjoyed hearing about how your content can be so easily twisted and misinterpreted in the minds of viewers. I think it's important to take an extra second to try and understand where others are coming from. Don't put words in other peoples mouths, and if you don't understand then ask for clarification!

[@timlett99]

The thing that confuses me is even if you think my favorite artist sucks...who tf cares? Music is subjective, what you like I might not and what I like you might not and it truly doesn’t matter. It’s one thing when people say something like it’s objective when it’s not but this rarely happens.

[@andreja9425]

this is why i’m so frustrated with the internet and discourse broadly, there’s sooo little nuance and the character limits are NOT HELPING

[@Juli_is_Online]

This video really spoke to me, because honestly few things are more annoying and more prevelant in online spaces then lack of media literacy and people just completely misinterpreting things often to suit their narrative or worldview, and people acting like everything can only be "best thing ever, worst thing ever" or "mid", it truly is frustrating to no end. Like, discussion and debates of really anything, be it art, culture, media, social issues, etc. etc. can be so so interesting and social media allows for so many amazing one's, but this potential is so often overshadowed by people just wanting to be the loudest in the room or refusing to engage with anything in a more in-depth manner that isn't completely vapid and shallow

[@willkalinich2426]

I remember you did a video of your favorite albums for each year you were alive, any chance you might do like favorite songs in that same theme as well?

[@smalltok4638]

I feel like it would be the same, like usually someone's favorite albums contain their favorite songs. Just an assumption on my end but it's a trend with me so 🤷‍♂️

[@MelMelodyWerner]

@@smalltok4638 I mean, singles typically have a way of separating themselves from an album context. I wouldn't say that any singular track from Two Hunters (by Wolves in the Throne Room, it's one of my all-time favorites) stands out as my "favorite" of that batch, because it is a cohesive package that I rarely listen to on shuffle or independently. if you asked my favorite song, my answer would be arbitrary. "this one made me cry", but it only got there cuz the proceeding tracks built up to it. if you asked me my favorite track from last year, it'd be "Sisyphus" by Quadeca. from an album that I enjoyed, but did not love as a cohesive package. it captures the quarantine ennui, the lyrics are brilliant, his rapping is passionate, and the synths that provide the backbone of the production are wonderfully atmospheric. easily stands head and shoulders above the rest of the tracklist. also just personal experience tho

[@freddysamjacob363]

This is very important at this moment. Good Job.

[@cynicalip]

This is a really well-constructed rant and an interesting point of conversation. I must say, in my life I've been bitter on Fantano scores on Eminem's album, i admit it, but now I'm more rational, like "I don't agree, but whatever" I witnessed comments so delusional about albums and songs that are so perplexing (E.G.: Negative critics of MM&TBS or Tom MacDonald stans) that nowadays I'm just grateful to have grown up and be capable of not be that bitter on opinions I disagree with.

[@wheelsofmercury]

This rant you've uploaded really echoes what I've thought of human discourse "post-"COVID: Nuance is dead and nobody has the frickin' patience to agree on anything anymore.

[@Stungus78]

I think about this all the time and it breaks me when people get offended about harmless opinions

[@mrnogot4251]

If you like something that’s all that matters! Who cares if someone else is critical of it. Even if they’re wrong (or even right) you can still listen to the music and enjoy it. No one has to validate you music tastes!

[@enotsnavdier6867]

I agree in spirit, but there are cases where some people's taste is unacceptable. Something like being a fan of Tom Macdonald. Where not only is the music lowest common denominator playground rap, but it also had a terrible social message behind it.

[@henriquea.5973]

Hey! I'm not an avid commenter, but I just wanted to say that this video's content is *spot on*. Congrats!

[@artirony410]

yeah I've noticed that people will actually sometimes get more mad at something they like being called "just ok" than being called bad lol

[@BKLYN_TZU]

I honestly want to thank you for your real opinions instead of the Hive mindness that's been going on for the past decade don't worry about the ones that disagree focus on the ones that still champion & respect individuality.

[@MaryMartinez-xt5eb]

THANK YOU!!! I have been waiting for someone to put words to what I've been feel about commentors need to feel offended by anything that disagrees with their worldview.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

3:52-4:00 This actually happened to me. A youtube channel named Katycat Forever said that Harry's House was the best album of the year so far, and I said that I agreed it was good, but not amazing. And she thought I said it was garbage, and barged me with meaningless statistics.

[@memelord3348]

Absolutely amazing video, yes it was a rant but a much needed one & well put together

[@hugoribeiro3236]

I just wanna say I appreciate the fact you took the time to make a point out of what u was feeling and u did it in a very honest and direct way, without feeling the need to be adversial towards ur audience. Well spoken and detailed enough for people to see it as a well put together rant more that just a guy's opinion of the Internet. Well done bro

[@sissymarie2912]

Complacency in art equaling no innovation is so true. I have seen gentle critiques get taken as hateful vitriol by fans while artists themselves are happy to engage because it helps them get better at what they do. Sure, compliments are a nice ego boost but they're almost never constructive. It's ideal to have people elaborate on how they experience art and if that includes discussion of what doesn't work that's just life. It means the audience is engaging with the work, which is the goal of creating it in the first place. It's really frustrating to see people put art or music on a pedestal without demonstrating how they connected with it and then acting like utter dicks to people who do. Great vid.

[@dyll_pyckle]

I don’t know who you are, but thank GOD someone said this. It’s probably all been said before, but hearing it again is so refreshing. Great tone and script. I love a good rant. I’m kinda done with the internet age with its constant communication and god awful takes lmao. I’m good with it all going away and reverting back to something simpler. I’m just so tired.

[@AA-vl7hx]

Alfo Media despises Fantano's review of DAMN CONFIRMED

[@mikebot6164]

Stan culture is a major reason for this phenomenon. Just the thought of not showing an interest in a particular artist, is seen as a slight. That's why I barely comment, and don't use twitter and facebook.

[@paokalexthes]

While in theory I already agreed with you, I sometimes do (did?) that bs as well, even in my private life. A sobering and useful video, thanks!

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

It’s a big problem with social media. Just look at all these “gamer” KZbinrs making videos about very small insignificant “drama” with titles like “WOKE Star Wars tweet has fans FURIOUS! (Epic FAIL)”

[@brandonhiebert2012]

This is an excellent video. Thank you for your nuance.

[@mihael6544]

Bro decided to spit facts for 9min and 30seconds There is so much i agree with this video (i agree with everything) I know this isnt the whole point of the video but that fantano part is so true People dont listen to THE REVIEW they just go to the score and complain

[@seanmurphree4716]

This is the greatest video ever created in the history of ever

[@AndrewIGoode]

I completely agree with everything in this video. However, another point I would add is how aggressively people trash people's music as well. We have everything in a trash or fire scale when comparing music and it's frustrating when you're allowed to like whatever you want, you just have to be respectful of those that don't. I feel Eminem is one of those artists that has an angry fan base that will attack you for disliking his stuff, but at the same time, I can't think of many more aggressively hated on artists. As a fan, it's difficult to talk to people to express I'm excited for whatever Eminem does next. I feel Relapse through MTBMB has had ups and downs, but there's a lot to love for me personally. I don't have to love everything an artist does to still enjoy his music. It's just hard because I get gunned down in conversations instantly for simply thinking he's a great artist still. It's okay to not like things, but it's equally okay to like things. It's just about understanding how to respectfully like or dislike whatever music makes you feel that way

[@drywall4310]

I think there's this view about these social media algorithms that rule how we interact with each other as being these "holier than thou" kind of things that can't be touched. At the very core of this problem, I think it's the fact that these algorithms are inherently designed to maximise gratification for the consumer and therefore, profit for the company. I think social media in general is becoming increasingly toxic, hyperactive and we don't have any room for reflecting on anything because the algorithms want us to move onto the next best thing In my opinion, these algorithms need to be reformed in a way that maximises self-reflection and kindness, providing for the actual needs of the people rather than profit CJ The X has an amazing video on this topic btw called "Bo Burnham vs. Jeff Bezos". I cannot recommend it enough

[@cooldog6807]

This is a really great and important video. Thanks for makin it man!

[@duanein3d]

I’m late to this but this was EXCELLENT

[@TombstoneDaDeadman]

I'm currently watching this play out in real time on one of my other channels.

[@hennerz93]

This is an incredibly important topic I feel, kudos to you for this

[@sophiaspiros]

A lot of my favourite albums have songs I don’t listen to, it really depends on where I am in my life and my mood at the time, I have songs I take on and off the roster all the time because one week I’m feeling it and other weeks I don’t relate, that doesn’t mean the song is bad or good, it’s about me and how I’m feeling and how I relate to the song. I bet there are plenty of songs that I love that people don’t like off an album but that’s fine because it’s there own personal interpretation of the music, and that’s what’s so amazing about music everybody hears a song differently than the other depending on their life experience and how they are feeling at the time

[@alexolds9840]

8:58 Was that an "I have the high ground" reference? Truly a man of culture.

[@wichpa]

This is why I love the weekly planet’s movie reviews. Their rating system goes Best Movie ever, just a movie, or Worst Movie ever since they knew exactly how the internet would react if they gave number ratings.

[@-Scrapper-]

Some stuff I have been thinking alot was said in this video. Good work

[@jesusignaciohenriquezciste7243]

I think you make a lot of points here, but I do feel bad when someone critics my favorite music. I´m not really sure as a persona and sometimes I´m not really sure why I like something, and when I hear a reason why certain thing I like is bad is kind of like a turn off.

[@Truevitz]

@@itsemachine overwhelming majority of people are lost.

[@shadez123]

@@itsemachine Noticing what people are criticizing in the music is good though, if it doesn't bother you great, if it does that's okay too. Don't attach yourself to an opinion as if you have to stick with it forever, but don't just cave to everyone else either. Weren't those albums well received though?

[@Real_Dystopian]

As someone who is as much into film as I am into music, your take on Antichrist was genuinely super interesting!

[@rayzic9789]

So he DOES hate waffles!

[@Brandnewriot001]

I feel like I’ve seen this recently when my favorite band Paramore posted an anniversary post of their sophomore album on the community tab sarcastically dunking on a review of the album, and there were a lot of people in the comments who didn’t get the sarcasm.

[@DylanMatthewTurner]

It's like with conlangs. Any language can be good, and you've only failed when that language doesn't meet your goals. If you're going for a relex, and you make a relex, it's great. If you're going for a naturalistic language, and you make a relex, then it's terrible

[@l4ssc]

a comment that references the conlanging community? on *my* random yt channel comment section? very cool

[@jonyu3]

Thank you for saying this 🙌🏿

[@misteraskman3668]

Just today I have seen 3 videos (including yours, new sub here) where people analize, examine, and critique the way that the modern society consumes media. And in all of them I thought about Bo Burnham's "Inside". Since it was almost universally acclaimed, I can help but wonder if his special actually had a significant cultural impact where people are now seriously questioning "Do I really want nothing to matter?" "Do I really want a world where anything can mean anything?" "Do I want this to be the world?" For me at least, that special was very impactful. I wonder how much that affected everyones veiw on the world as a whole. (This is just me wondering, an opinion. I find it ironic and terryfing that I feel the need to clarify that in this video in particular)

[@lavalamp4566]

Great vid man, you got all your points across very clearly

[@enman009]

You brought an interesting point regarding everything being black and white, feeling like clickbait without a lot of nuanced regarding what is, at the end, just an opinion. I think the problem is that a lot of discussions regarding art don't bring criticism in good faith, nor impartial understanding of an art piece; it has to be as narrow as "I like this because" or "I don't like this because". There's barely a middle ground in what the art piece conveys and what I personally feel.

[@petermillar210]

I think here, like with a lot of things involving knee-jerk reactions and online hate or hatred in general, comes down to people having a fragile sense of identity and a misunderstanding of what critical thinking is. So many people are just going around having interactions hoping to be validated in some way, it's not even about the content itself. Some people dislike themselves deep down so they bring that fragility everywhere they go and into everything they do. It's insecurity and a need for external approval. For them, any actual critique threatens their self worth so they lash out with absolutes. Also I blame the media for selling outrage.

[@verticalgrand23]

People hear what they want to hear. Subconscious insecurities run so rampant that anything that challenges a person's preconceived notions will shock and confuse them and instead of confronting those emotions, they'll instantly react and do everything in their power to quash the argument to better their own sense of well-being. At the end of the day, feeling right is more important to most people than actually gaining some type of understanding about themselves or the world around them. Simplification - aka the black/white dichotomy - is a crutch that both holds up & hinders our perception, allowing us to place things into neat little boxes that we can easily sort & disregard at a whim. Comfort is the end goal. Personal comfort & gratification knowing that the mindset we worked so little to obtain is validated & worthy. Mental laziness. The epidemic that Covid wishes it could be.

[@gmg9010]

Alfo doesn’t know what I like I doubt he’d like what I listen to and that’s fine I don’t really like some stuff that Alfo would listen to either but it’s the reason we give to why we don’t like what that person likes or dislikes

[@jordanlayton6540]

CinemaWins is great brain bleach for whenever thinking about CinemaSins has you in the dumps. Props for the Antichrist breakdown!

[@Carddaddy311]

This was the best video of all time!!

[@BowersLA]

Very very good post man!

[@mr.pavone9719]

Yes, I agree. I tell my kids constantly to stop taking the word of critics as absolute truth. They're young and I don't want them to internalize extreme reactions as being anything good. It's all to get attention in a system that rewards antisocial, almost sociopathic, behavior. That said, if I go to any public space and your music is drowning out the sounds of nature and everything else around me just so you can stand out in the crowd for being the loudest... your music sucks.

[@jordanlayton6540]

Mr. Sunday Movies has a fun take on this via their movie rating system of “Best Movie Ever” or “Worst Movie Ever” that mocks this reactionary hunger. Much love for the Survivor clip!!

[@Retr0_Blues]

What you said at the start is very true im afraid , my friend (who's very right wing) was laughing his ass off when we watched the boys together . I was surprised when he said "the show's making fun of white Twitter liberals and woke companies" and then I realised he wasn't thick skinned watching the 3 seasons , he was just straight up oblivious 🤦🏽

[@narlabegins]

In my opinion, is a mix of a lot of things. The attention span of lots of people are decimated by this point, the media has to use clickbait in the most blantant way possible to earn some views, and a lot of "critics" seem to believe that, the more they focus on irrelevant things and nit pick stuff that really don't matter, the better critics they're (basically, the Cinema Sins way of "criticism")

[@yotsuba_agi]

media literacy is at an all time low is so true. it really DOES happen with every community

[@Terrapin47-s8y]

Literacy in general.

[@man4437]

I don't know, I think more people are just being tasked with actually analyzing media

[@paisleepunk]

​@@man4437and clearly, most people really suck at it (myself included tbh)

[@-Scrapper-]

My favorite music is a 6/10

[@-Scrapper-]

@Regent Mills This is an original opinion of mine I stole from fantano

[@neverhappy8957]

@@-Scrapper- it's a based opinion asf all of my favorite music is not good

[@thenewyorkhip-hopspot5485]

Loved this video bro u got a new subscriber today! Been getting into music reviews my self and this rly inspired me

[@thearcheriskind]

I think that part of the problem is the internet gets rid of subtext. When someone says "x is generic", you could read that as its own statement or you can look at people who would use that as they're reasoning for something being the worst thing in the universe and attach it to every statement something generic even if that wasn't the intention. As a swiftie, especially when I was younger, I would build up these trigger words that even if the person didn't intend them as an insult I would start associating them with insults that had been thrown my way before, and I think that's the same thing a lot of stans of artists will do. General umbrella critiques like "generic", "overrated", and more recently "based" are especially difficult things to see as compliments or helpful critiques especially if there's no other explanation given (there is an explanation often times, but sometimes not). With the onslaught of content that is the internet, people hold onto their favorite hobbies and content like a raft and I think when people critique it, it feels like they're holding a pin over it like they're going to deflate the raft when in fact they're trying to explain something and they like holding needles like they're toothpicks. That was a bad metaphor but yeah.

[@flux202]

Every youtuber always moving. Hope it's to better places.

[@TheRareVideosXL]

Great video as always.

[@Flora_Moana]

I like reviews and opinions not for the rating at the end but for new perspectives. It's sad to me that people twist words but maybe I'm not immune to it. I have to consciously tell myself "it's his opinion" when I disagree with someone. Not trying to ignore everything said but to get better at listening to criticism and learning from it without being offended

[@vlogactionTV]

this is a video everyone should see

[@zorazora0]

Great video, im constantly baffled by the complete lack of nuance online, of how unable to form a real opinion most people are. They just want a catchy joke that will get them a few likes, no wonder how exaggerated it is. I kinda want to defend Cinemasins real quick, which is very often pointed as the source of that super cynic mentality these days. People need to understand they're not a review channel, they're a comedy channel. They're very self-aware of how pointless their 'sins' are and keep reminding their audience that a lot of what they say isn't supposed to be taken seriously, or even make sense. And despite the comedy, i feel like they participate in exposing some of the lazy tropes and gimmicks we find in movies. Which dont necessarily translate in how good the movie is, but they're present. It's not cynic to aknowledge those flaws, but it's cynic to act like that's all that counts

[@shadez123]

The cinemasins hate I've been seeing is so weird. I haven't watched in a long time, but I remember that a lot of the "sins" were completely arbitrary. Like they would literally do the "bonus round" thing at the end and the number would just morph into something completely different. It's clearly not serious criticism

[@paisleepunk]

​@@shadez123but a lot of people took it as such, and it influenced many's (shockingly serious) critique styles. i don't know who to blame, though

[@SandwichGlitch]

I think it is funny that 24 years ago I sat in a movie theater and immediately knew I am witnessing life changing art... And it was It was the Matrix and back then we hadn't had that feeling all the time, but oh boy when we had it it was a craze for years..... Anyone heard of 1993 jurassic park?

[@iwandachibi8725]

The sad things is I don’t think most people will actually learn from this…

[@elenymm]

More and more people are utterly incapable of dealing with constructive criticism or even slight negativity and they project their insecurities on to others.

[@mgg9416]

I can't believe Alfo Media said my favorite music sucks!

[@heatherr0420]

Heck, sometimes I'll make a comment on a KZbin video and it sparks some ridiculous debate. I don't even bother to engage

[@untitledtransient]

There are different theories about media reception. Generally, the discourse has moved on from the idea that an "author" expresses a messages in a piece of art/media and the audience deciphers the message. There is so much more going on. It's all about interpretation and context. At the end of the day, culture decides what meaning we commonly attach to a thing, based on where the culture currently stands and where the piece of art fits. It's not about communication.

[@AUDIO.and.SCOTCH]

Great video 👍

[@davidbarton1928]

What seems to be lost on most is this... Insightful meaningful criticism is difficult. It requires a deep appreciation of the artform won from years of experience. It also requires nuance and eloquence, and a certain fearlessness. What it isn't is a reductive score on arbitrary scale from a know-nothing wingwang with a hot take and a KZbin account. Except many consumers only want the latter and don't care for the insight. They're too busy worrying about those scores on an arbitrary scale and whether they agree with their preconceived opinions to appreciate what the critic is actually saying. Admittedly those scores mattered more when they prevented the purchase of a physical copy of an utter clanger, but streaming services have mitigated the majority of that risk. Nowadays I see critics as a knowledgeable fellow fanboy/girl that offers a different perspective. It's absolutely fine to agree or disagree since none of these opinions ultimately matter.

[@zacho1333]

The implication is a beautiful thing Given the context of this video I should make it clear this is sarcasm

[@BlackJester57]

great video!

[@dekio1214]

Thank you!

[@2DVincent]

this is definitively, hands down, absolutely, 100%, no cap, frfrfrfr, without doubt, no competition, the best take on the internet of ALL TIME

[@tobbyhappy3572]

Yes.

[@Flora_Moana]

Good video :) that really had to be said

[@simethigsomethingidfk]

I just, and think everyone should just ignore these people. Its pointless to try to interact with them or try to get them to explain a opinion, everything immediately turns into an argument where nothing happens. They will not change their ways no matter what you do so just save your sanity and ignore them. Its at the point where I just block something like 75% of people after the first few sentences, because you can just immediately tell when someone has had their brain leaking out of their ears for the last 10 years.

[@vomitedtoe7158]

Wow very eye opening

[@ramblinactivist]

Like your take, but I'd be a little more critical: The extreme views are not, 'the message'; the extreme views are 'the business model'. There's a substantive difference there, and how it affects the nature of the media. I list a lot of academic research around this issue/discourse in a long, drawn-out, analytical video (yeah!, you guessed right, it's NOT tending!) last year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ_df52oeNyoqdE

[@NoUploadJustComment]

I think CinemaSins is more satirical but other than that excellent video man.

[@D.S.handle]

To be sure “Born in the USA” does seem to be confused as being patriotic for quite a long time.

[@farhannr28]

6:35 Hol up i just saw this on Kenny Beats tweet