My thoughts exactly. How only 4 likes!?@@tanvir.ahmed0
@perochialjoe7 ай бұрын
So the brotherboard plugs into the motherboard? That's a fucked up computer
@jamariiion7 ай бұрын
@@perochialjoenah frl🤣
@SilverAegis397 ай бұрын
Fatherboards, since they still need mother to be effective
@Nullzd Жыл бұрын
"GPU: look at me, I'm the motherboard now" meme is starting to get too realistic
@mmrox4320 Жыл бұрын
Since some CPUs also come with integrated graphics for how small they are, i don't see why not GPU with an integrated CPU also mini-ITX motherboards can fit too
@mr_juuq1916 Жыл бұрын
Oh s#it... Oh no. :D Here we go again! :D
@endo9881 Жыл бұрын
@@mmrox4320Oh god what have you done
@tobiid1585 Жыл бұрын
the funny thing is, gpu is basically can be called a computer itself with all the component inside that, except for the lack of psu.
@mr_juuq1916 Жыл бұрын
@@tobiid1585 yep and then there is the thing about when we are going to plug a cord straight from our gpus to power outlets :D Also when are we transferring power to the mbo from gpu, hmm :D Future idea, make a computer that is only one component. Shouldn't be hard i guess.
@BRMakesStuff6 ай бұрын
"What computer do you have?" "An RTX 4090."
@karlhendrikse6 ай бұрын
That's already how it is, pretty much. Lead with the most expensive part
@SaladDev4 ай бұрын
This reminds me of diesel truck owners. I don’t drive a 3500, I drive a Cummins!
@Iheartpillzz3 ай бұрын
@@karlhendriksefr
@Ashitaka08153 ай бұрын
That one has no free pci express lanes though, so it's more likely a 4060 :P
@jmcgaming94572 ай бұрын
Ohh I got the rtx 6090
@smoothmiles247 ай бұрын
"Yo dawg I heard you like SSDs"
@41dn7 ай бұрын
An older meme, but it checks out
@Bin0mar6 ай бұрын
THAT'S MEAN MORE VRAM ??????
@Umar_nad6 ай бұрын
No@@Bin0mar
@EricOnline926 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@EthanDoezYT6 ай бұрын
“So we putting an SSD, ON YOU MOTHA FKIN GPU!”
@NP_Com Жыл бұрын
"my gpu ran out of space" Edit 7 months later: i got this video reccomended again and got shocked.
@heshboi6025 Жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@TotallyNoAim Жыл бұрын
4090: hm? What you say?
@killer_instinctz8696 Жыл бұрын
@@TotallyNoAimlmao
@hydroflasks3571 Жыл бұрын
@@TotallyNoAimthis argument fits all the new nvidia gpus😂
@k.h.5119 Жыл бұрын
cries in stable diffusion
@tomekkwegna588110 ай бұрын
Previously: built-in graphics on the motherboard The future: built-in motherboard on the graphics card
@ichdissdich989 ай бұрын
Your laughing but this is it my dude, gpu with built in CPU as approximate values are enough now. Same goes for society and that’s what really worries me. You don’t have to know stuff any more just approximates and where to look up the real values
@FocusedCat9 ай бұрын
Technically, that's an APU.
@benson48208 ай бұрын
How about a full on prebuilt pc inside the gpu 😂
@xshade658 ай бұрын
@@FocusedCatlike that one that runs a fighter jet?
@SomeGuyNamedMy8 ай бұрын
@@ichdissdich98 the fuck are you going on about lol
@Azuraeon Жыл бұрын
- 4060: "What is my purpose?" - "You provide cooling for SSDs" - 4060: "Oh my god"
@samuelmatheson9655 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@malikkelly Жыл бұрын
Rick and Morty
@madfox285 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 nice reference
@Dante2913 Жыл бұрын
😂
@charles3840 Жыл бұрын
That'll be me when I have a 4060 and all I play is Factorio games smaller than 20GB with pixel graphics.
@Fvistugdsggratugfh4 ай бұрын
“How much vram do you have?” “Uhhh 2 tb”
@valentds2 ай бұрын
it's not for vram sadly
@Fvistugdsggratugfh2 ай бұрын
@@valentds 😑
@arthasmenethil2201Ай бұрын
In the future, we may expand VRAM like that. Until then, you ask an electronics guy to upgrade your GPU (delicate and expensive task).
@brotherhoodofsteel30908 күн бұрын
Being able to add VRAM would be clutch.. but let's be honest, they'd never do that.
@creativename. Жыл бұрын
Bro got that RTX 4060 512GB version 😂
@savekillqqpsounds8473 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@smeketajs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, things like that will break minds!
@RuriYoshinova Жыл бұрын
RTX 4060 2048GB edition
@golik133 Жыл бұрын
PC: master I never felt this much power
@iamhugry Жыл бұрын
Bro I got the 4060 ti 10tb upgrade
@SoccerBoyAP Жыл бұрын
Your GPU is becoming the System within a System
@davidparker.2227 Жыл бұрын
Always was.
@CossackHD Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, SSD has its own little OS and 4 core ARM CPU that manages the data.
@RoninYoutube Жыл бұрын
Cells within Cells
@club2772 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The traces are practically going straight from the ssd to the motherboard.
@minapenguin7107 Жыл бұрын
All pc components are systems within a system
@MrScy13 Жыл бұрын
GPU: look at me, look at me. I am the computer now
@milefiori7694 Жыл бұрын
From discrete GPU to discrete Computer 😂
@KReeMMeeNAL Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha, YES 👍🏻 exactly that
@hevityaus631 Жыл бұрын
Kek
@magnuswright5572 Жыл бұрын
Somebody ported Linux to OpenCL, so yeah basically
@Kivsha Жыл бұрын
DPU: look at me, look at me. I am the computer now
@RogueAI7 ай бұрын
I wish vram could be expanded like that
@GameStationZ7 ай бұрын
for real...
@pakan3576 ай бұрын
Radeon Pro SSG. Sort of. Kind of. Eh.
@Dumanddd6 ай бұрын
@@bck187lucky you
@susrut36646 ай бұрын
how much vram do you need?
@iambicpotato21986 ай бұрын
This is exactly what crossed my mind when I clicked on this video.
@chidubem82611 ай бұрын
4060: "What is my purpose? Me: "You are a house for my SSD." 4060: "You've gotta be fckin kiddin me!"
@justacollegestudent514710 ай бұрын
Honestly being a place for an ssd is worth more than the worthless garbage 4060
@junkpow10 ай бұрын
4060 should apologize for existing... That thing is waste of my semen.
@Dante291310 ай бұрын
😂
@noelisgod110 ай бұрын
@@junkpowyou fucked your GPU? 😂
@TheCynicalOptimist8810 ай бұрын
But wouldn't the heat created by the graphics card far exceed normal conditions that a hard drive would be sit at? Regardless of fans ... Water cooling I could concede being a more at reason for such close integration
@zyuradesu8911 ай бұрын
2077: and now you can also put some ram on your gpu
@DTPandemonium9 ай бұрын
Finally can actually download more ram
@toucane21249 ай бұрын
more like "now you can also put some ram in your head"
@KaityKat1179 ай бұрын
Am I getting wooshed here, or are you not aware that GPUs already have their own dedicated RAM?
@zyuradesu899 ай бұрын
@@KaityKat117 i know, i mean we can upgrade it, its a joke anyway
@KaityKat1179 ай бұрын
@@zyuradesu89 oh like give the GPU DIMM slots. actually....... that doesn't sound like too bad an idea
@derthellevoon Жыл бұрын
this brings the „I am the motherboard now“ joke to a whole different level
@braulioasd283 Жыл бұрын
@@ghst-vq8sv😂😂😂
@Aliyah_666 Жыл бұрын
@@ghst-vq8svasus 4090 matrix has entered the chat lol
@jaquelinegillisfrancine2923 Жыл бұрын
This will no longer be a joke in 10 years
@tni3337 ай бұрын
I’d be more excited if the gpus just used the full 16 lanes by default
@heramaaroricon47386 ай бұрын
Same.
@myk1_sp6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why some GPUs don't utilize the 16 PCIe lanes that they get installed to.
@Not_interestEd-6 ай бұрын
@@myk1_sp it's cheaper to not do that. That's... The entire reason. What? You're disappointed? Sucks to be you, just buy a new card! Casual.
@charginginprogresss6 ай бұрын
@@myk1_sp simply not powerful enough, they can either fully use 8 or half use 16 so they just use 8 Note this applies to stuff like a 4060, a 4090 definitely uses all 16.
@Godjo_THO5 ай бұрын
This is because we don't fulfill that capacity at this moment, your system is x64 bits, why you don't use 16 exabytes (17179869184 gigabytes) of ram instead of just 16 gigabytes? It's because we don't need such power by this moment, 32 bits used to accept 4GB of ram and we jumped to 64 bits, be patient, maybe in the future we can start needing those 8 extra.
@buenogoodlive9 ай бұрын
In the future, your graphics card will just be your computer.
@lucythefrogge8 ай бұрын
C*nsole be like
@bragtime10528 ай бұрын
@@lucythefrogge😨
@RenanBecker8 ай бұрын
like smartphones?
@DiditCoding8 ай бұрын
This is what I’ve been saying from long time
@conqwiztadore22138 ай бұрын
No genius, gpus will be obsolete and cpus will do both in the future.
@burgerbait11 ай бұрын
How can I cool my SSD? Nvidia: How about you strap it to the second hottest component in your computer?
@Nordlicht0510 ай бұрын
I wonder how that should be the future? That means there will never be GPUs wich use all lanes on any Mainboard ever!?
@ericknorskr856810 ай бұрын
@@Nordlicht05if its not necessary, they won't do it. gold and copper are expensive the less the better for them
@w花b10 ай бұрын
Hottest component requires the coolest fans
@infernaldaedra10 ай бұрын
@@Nordlicht05GPUs will never match the full throughput of pcie technology. Ultimately that's a unnecessary and worthless endeavor unless pcie stops scaling
@Nordlicht0510 ай бұрын
@@infernaldaedra than they could make less lanes on Mainboards ☝️
@Y3SS1N Жыл бұрын
I almost thought those cards would need 2TB VRAM
@Roach_Dogg_JR Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I can now load the textures of the entire GTA V map.
@smsff7 Жыл бұрын
@@Roach_Dogg_JR So that should mean no load time for the game, everything is just there and ready to go.
@webbedshadow260111 ай бұрын
Dude same
@narrativeless40411 ай бұрын
@@AnzaiDior Even unarchived GTA V files wouldn't be taking 2 TB of space
@meghanachauhan938011 ай бұрын
@@smsff7 you can load your entire games library onto the SSD just waiting to be launched
@Cold_waffles7 ай бұрын
They should do this with VRAM. All my problems will be solved
@tell_us_another_oneАй бұрын
Shit yeah.. it saved my marriage!
@Morgothol10 ай бұрын
Soon, your SSD needs a SSD
@cloudphone74199 ай бұрын
😂
@khyen8 ай бұрын
SSD²
@christianhernandez97858 ай бұрын
@@khyenssd gonna be using micro SD
@redson82108 ай бұрын
Just as I need her 😢
@Paala8 ай бұрын
Makarena
@Gornius Жыл бұрын
"So what we can do to make 60°C SSDs cooler?" "Stick it to the board that can get up to 100°C, duh..."
@rage8010 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's not by the actual chip. It's on the fucking backplate lmao That shit gets hot...
@Not_interestEd- Жыл бұрын
Cool concept, gonna take an arm and a leg to engineer.
@piotrkowalski3869 Жыл бұрын
@@Not_interestEd- What can i get for a rib? Guess a grilled SSD.
@leviofanh Жыл бұрын
Attach the heatsink to the board of the SSD itself. It will be even more efficient.
@Not_interestEd- Жыл бұрын
@@hystaric_3013 Problem: the NVMe slot is going to sit next to the chip. Solution: Move it to the other side of the board. Can't be THAT hard.... right?
@akaHarvesteR9 ай бұрын
Back in my day, we just used to have more than one PCIe slot.
@ohlala95468 ай бұрын
You still have. Except for the x16 and probably one m.2, they aren't directly connected to the cpu but handled by the chipset. It reduces the bandwidth (that SSDs especially use to it's maximum) thus using all direct PCIe lanes isn't too stupid. But nvidia not using the 16x and artificially throtteling their gpus is fucking stupid.
@ErgoProdigy8 ай бұрын
That shares lanes.
@krzysztofb92798 ай бұрын
back in my day there was no pcie. you had isa. and maybe one pci slot. if you wanted to watch a multimedia clip you needed a gpu AND a mpeg decoder card. if you wanted a dvd player a few years later, you needed a dvd decoder card. I miss those days.
@irishdrunkass8 ай бұрын
We understand how it works. It's just that like...the kinds of cards that aren't using 16 lanes, are all low end builds anyways...so it just kind of gimmicky. Usually hardware innovation comes to high end risk taking users first, and trickles down. This goes straight to the low end and the mediocre@@ohlala9546
@iso-didact7898 ай бұрын
@@krzysztofb9279 Not a card just a decoder installed like the k-lite codec pack.
@AZREDFERN6 ай бұрын
My mini-ITX would be happy. It has 2 full size M.2 slots. But only one of them has a cooler, and the other is on the bottom of the board with no head space for a heat sink or any airflow if you found a low profile one.
@dietcokepapii Жыл бұрын
Taking "direct storage" to a different level 😭
@thoreberlin10 ай бұрын
This is the opposite. Its having less bandwith instead of more with less latency. The SSD is still connectet to the CPU but physically located on the GPU Board that cheaps out on PCIeLanes; limiting the GPU Bandwith to half.
@dietcokepapii10 ай бұрын
@@thoreberlin it was a joke mate
@thoreberlin10 ай бұрын
@nandishmunjal1998 Well, there were professional graphics cards that had direct storage from AMD: Radeon Pro SSG. Not a joke ;)
@xanderwusky300110 ай бұрын
@@thoreberlin that is for now though, whos to say that cant be developed? Its got to at least be something they are thinking about. What if you could have a drive that is optimised for direct storage that will get gpu access directly with cpu second. If that would be possible you could probably do some crazy stuff too if you need a lot of vram but not as fast for example. ssds are so fast already that it can probably be fast enough for a lot of uses if it was accessible by the gpu directly
@royk137410 ай бұрын
@@thoreberlin Unless it's used to load directly from the NVME, it might be possible that the GPU could use it for direct storage. Like he said, this GPU doesn't use the full bandwidth anyway and the nvme wouldn't either. So it might be profitable for optimized games. From NVIDIA: GPUDirect® Storage creates a direct data path between local or remote storage, such as NVMe or NVMe over Fabrics (NVMe-oF), and GPU memory.
@Joshfarmpig Жыл бұрын
this is a perfect opportunity for nvidia to make a 4060 that has an SLI bridge and like have a super gpu
@Joshfarmpig Жыл бұрын
or better yet, a compact 4060
@JackalTheProto Жыл бұрын
They won't its NVIDIA were taking about
@WCGwkf Жыл бұрын
A double 4060 would not make a super gpu
@darealmaul Жыл бұрын
Sli barely did any good. It was a waste of time and money.
@Jwalker76 Жыл бұрын
problem with SLI is driver support and getting game devs to not only for new games but old games as well.
@shadoutenma5774 Жыл бұрын
Imagine your gpu overheating and cooking your 2TB ssd
@ichisenzy Жыл бұрын
actually no cuz the gpu itself is not close to the ssd + the ssd is inserted through the plastic shroud so at worst it’ll get heated up by a few degrees by the hot air blown from the gpu heat sink
@redslate Жыл бұрын
If it got that hot, your GPU would be toasted first.
@dp_dapper Жыл бұрын
Imagine your 2TB ssd overheating and cooking your gpu 🙃
@daniel4dev Жыл бұрын
@@ichisenzy if your GPU and SSD share the same heat sink then your SSD would actually heat up quite significantly. Heat sinks are designed to be conductors of heat, and your thermal transfer elements (like thermal paste) aren't directional (you can't put thermal paste on upside down or round the wrong way). Therefore if your GPU heats up, the heat sink heats up, the SSD heats up.
@daniel4dev Жыл бұрын
@@redslatepretty sure SSDs have a lower maximum operating threshold. So in theory you could actually destroy your SSD because your GPU will thermal throttle at a temperature higher than is safe for your SSD
@italianbasegard6 ай бұрын
These graphics cards require you to split the x16 lanes into x8 for the GPU and x4 for the NVMe drive using what’s called “PCIe bifurcation”. Even attempting to use such an SSD on a GPU like this requires your motherboard to support PCIe bifurcation. I’ve ran server disks using PCIe bifurcation before. It is a nuisance to set up, a nuisance to manage, and the payoff is negligible (assuming you have space M.2 slots on a standard motherboard, use those instead). So no, no I am not excited for this GPU or this approach at all lol.
@SirPano856 ай бұрын
But I feel the marketing team will like it...
@GrugGaming6 ай бұрын
I could imagine this adding additional input lag tbh
@RoganKayle5 ай бұрын
What a load of nonsense lol. What you say is simply not true.
@Klaevin4 ай бұрын
I don't think you inderstand what's going on here. bifurcation is a pain because it turns 1 lane into 2 lanes. this GPU only uses 8 lanes and so 8 lanes are still available for something else. 2 NVMe drives, for example, which only use 4 lanes each.
@maciejgada7404 ай бұрын
1. Most of the AMD motherboards support bifurcation by default, but motherboard manufacturers do not include BIOS interface to configure it. 2. This does not require lane splitting.
@AmirRazan10 ай бұрын
"I am all about this if this is the future." - Every Tech Company
@Klovaneer9 ай бұрын
narrator: it was not the future
@tobiaslewis82859 ай бұрын
Hahahaha, 😂
@nassozeebo9 ай бұрын
"I am rooting for whichever team is winning"
@JhanOjan9 ай бұрын
Because future is unpredictable. Every new technology implementation requires try and error. Some stopped in r&d phase, some stopped because users and market didn't receive it quite well. It'll become standard once market received it well and less than 10% negative feedback from the users
@Klovaneer9 ай бұрын
@@JhanOjan This isn't some new technology, just strapping an SSD to the hottest PC component.
@Henry-Kuren7 ай бұрын
If only they used this tech to store prerenders and shader caches to take load off the GPU.
@vladimus97495 ай бұрын
I expected it would be used for something like this. Super disappointed it wasn't, especially with how this guy presented it.
@clintonweir76095 ай бұрын
Give it time.
@darkinfuser_444 ай бұрын
DirectStorage would be absolutely goated with this because the gpu can just utilise the ssd straight from the card instead of through the motherboard
@AcceptYourDeath4 ай бұрын
@@clintonweir7609 There is no time because the logical step will be using all 16 lanes for newer GPU generations. The idea is flawed untill they start using SSD for direct access for a GPU like consoles do.
@jerseyse4104 ай бұрын
@@flsendzz I would love to be able to store Stable Diffusion directly on my GPU so its already there for use
@047Kenny Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what computers look like in 10 years. Gonna be one RGB block
@northwastaken Жыл бұрын
Mac studio lol
@zappalavigna Жыл бұрын
"What's you're specs?" 34893020696969 rgb strips
@luckyluc25 Жыл бұрын
In 10 years, 16 core - 32 thread, 128Gb of Ram, 400 TFLOPS GPU with 48Gb of VRAM just to run Unreal 7, or 8, at 1080p with no ray tracing at 47 FPS. LOL. I'm probably not to far off.
@bryansantillano Жыл бұрын
@@northwastakenbasically lmao
@Tommmy1.0 Жыл бұрын
Rgb ssd
@LetzBlend6 ай бұрын
Imagine releasing a custom firmware that uses that ssd slot as an extra vram slot. I might request that.
@leonhardmollney86385 ай бұрын
Nice multi tb of vram
@LetzBlend5 ай бұрын
@@leonhardmollney8638 😂😂
@regeneric9284 ай бұрын
There is a reason why we don't use SSDs for RAM or VRAM...
@duderobi10 ай бұрын
Imagine putting the SSD on the Hottest place in the whole PC
@LuisPerez-58 ай бұрын
Genius
@legominimovieproductions8 ай бұрын
And the gpu in the video has the ssd mounted on the back, so basically the part of that gpu that has the absolute least cooling on the entire gpu
@jankrnac35358 ай бұрын
CPU is still hotter but yeah.
@legominimovieproductions8 ай бұрын
@@jankrnac3535 not necessarily, my cpu runs at 69 to 70 degrees under full load, my gpu goes up to 85 under full load
@yeahh_idk_8 ай бұрын
@@legominimovieproductionsNot always.
@cullenmanning141 Жыл бұрын
SSD: “AHHHHH GOD IT BURNSSSS AHHHHHH PLEASE END MEEEEEE GOD IT BURRRRR-“
@fennex7575 Жыл бұрын
"MICHAEEEL DONT LEAVE ME HEEERE MIICHAAEEL"
@cardoman398611 ай бұрын
kzbin.infor7UG5bbjM60?si=hpy9siEeMNvbPC5M
@Chomta10 ай бұрын
@@fennex7575hey Vsauce Micheal here
@juliandelao457010 ай бұрын
@@fennex7575i don’t even want to tell you how bad i want to punch you for being a cringe furry
@Bakedfrijoless10 ай бұрын
“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” Romans 10:9 NKJV
@soumyadeepmitrayo94 Жыл бұрын
This is probably the most useful feature for RTX 4060 😆😆
@0AThijs Жыл бұрын
Only*
@angeltensey Жыл бұрын
dumb idea for dumb gpu
@Unethical.Dodgson Жыл бұрын
@@0AThijs I think that might be the joke.
@janluofficial7 ай бұрын
Use an SSD as VRAM, now u got 8TB of VRAM
@namedauuid4 ай бұрын
great for if you want your gpu to be both low-end AND high-end at the same time.
@technorunner126 күн бұрын
😎😎😎😎
@Flesh_Wizard19 күн бұрын
@@namedauuidhell yeah time to minmaxx my 4090
@johng329210 ай бұрын
Can't wait to upgrade my 12GB VRAM to 1TB.
@ShiggyCompPt210 ай бұрын
It’s not for vram
@ryanpongracz80519 ай бұрын
@@ShiggyCompPt2it should be
@ShiggyCompPt29 ай бұрын
@@ryanpongracz8051 its for storage, not vram. The gpu uses 8 lanes, They put a ssd on the gpu to make the most out of the x16 slot.
@Arterexius9 ай бұрын
@@ryanpongracz8051 That would require a whole other type of solid state storage. If you just loaded, unloaded and flashed a standard M.2 disk like it was RAM, you'd have a fried M.2 disk very, very quickly
@SckMyPopsickle9 ай бұрын
It does not require any m.2 storage at all , we're talking about vrams, they are totally different things, all they're saying is that the heat issues from m.2 drives can be cooled by your graphics card. Excuse me for bad English
@roulifreeman446011 ай бұрын
What we really need then is the GPU being able to directly decode textures and things from the builtin SSD
@EvilTim191110 ай бұрын
I thought this video was going in that direction, THAT would be cool. This will just make the SSD slower because the data has to pass through two interfaces instead of one. Plus the main M.2 slot on a mobo is usually very close to the CPU and there's a good reason for that. So this is adding an interface and moving the SSD further away. No thanks
@roulifreeman446010 ай бұрын
@@EvilTim1911 there is direct storage access or whatever it's called for GPU directly reading from the hard drive. So it might be useful
@soul_pantheon9 ай бұрын
@@EvilTim1911 well while the cpu is incharge of processing a majority of the file transfers, you could inturn use the verry many processors present in the gpu instead to process the files, this is the case for how workstation gpus work
@Southpawarsenal11 ай бұрын
At first I thought this was implying that we are now using NVMe drives as VRAM lmao
@astral_haze9 ай бұрын
needed since nvidia scammed me out of 4 gb of vram (they make worse laptop gpus under the same name)
@arashkmahshidfar77809 ай бұрын
@@astral_hazethat's on you for not doing research. The chip on each laptop card is also the same as one below it's equivalent on desktop. So a 4090 mobile would be 4080 on desktop, 4080 mobile would be 4070 desktop, etc.
@irnehhenri9 ай бұрын
@@arashkmahshidfar7780I don't think it's fair to blame the consumer for "not doing research" when it is *vidia who is doing the fraudulent advertisement, like you basically explained. A rational person would expect a "3080 (laptop)" to be almost exactly the same as a "3080 (desktop)" if they're both called "3080"...
@arashkmahshidfar77809 ай бұрын
@@irnehhenri I see the implications and I know that the naming scheme sucks, but also everyone knows laptops are slower than PCs. On top of that, every website and computer store I went to says the amount of VRAM what they are trying to sell you has. So in practice, if you say they scammed you, that's your fault for not knowing what is basically common info for the PC enthusiast.
@luminousfractal4209 ай бұрын
It got me too. Who woulda thought it was something even stupider 😂
@brewergamer6 ай бұрын
Feels like we're in a timeloop, eventually GPUs become the motherboard and the storage and the RAM.. then we're a console again. lol
@deadselect Жыл бұрын
-Wee need direct storage on PC! -But we have direct storage at home Direct storage at home:
@MsHojat11 ай бұрын
What do you mean? PCs already have DirectStorage. And the drive doesn't need to be near the GPU, it makes no difference.
@xGrifDog96x10 ай бұрын
You say the SSD is gonna get cooler from the GPU but my GPU is just gonna overheat my SSD lmao
@jax3r8 ай бұрын
I’ll stick to my 1080ti that runs at 25C
@JFat51588 ай бұрын
@@jax3rdude is your ambient temp in the negatives or something?
@ashii_ii8 ай бұрын
@@JFat5158bro lives in Antarctica
@Al13n1nV8D3R Жыл бұрын
This is how you can cook an NVME in no time!
@-FAFO- Жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking, that thing is gonna get toasted.
@LeFingal Жыл бұрын
LoL! Uh... LOL im just gonna state that again without saying any further and see if you can understand how dumb you just sound by saying so LOL!!! :-D
@LeFingal Жыл бұрын
@@-FAFO- Mainly the head you read of your GPU comes from the Vram and GPU-processor... And in the far behind on many cards there are just fins and fans, the actual card is pretty small. And in this video its almost as if there is added some extra space on the card to make it bigger, with no Vram anywhere near, which means the SSD is gonna do fine, usually they aren't cooled by fans at all, and here they are actually getting aircooled. My 4080 looks like a beast, but once you take the shell off and bring the real card out, you'll see its not that big of a card :)
@-FAFO- Жыл бұрын
@@LeFingal Don't know if you've ever touched a 30 or 40-series card while running but it's hot af. Yes the insides get some air running through, but the SSD will only get some residual cooling from the casing the air is passing through. That's still not as ideal as having it on the motherboard where you can have fans directly blowing onto it. You're going to be running your SSD at constantly hotter temps than you would otherwise, but have at it.
@LeFingal Жыл бұрын
@@-FAFO- I started building computers back in the days of 2002, when i was 17. I do know a thing or two about computers i think, and tbh i can touch my 4080 while gaming star citizen at 2160p any day on the rare end, mostly plastic anyways. Now i cant touch the fins while the card is running, but i touched the rare end of the backplate and it was not as hot as the gpu and vram that showed 65 and 73 degrees celius under heavy gaming. 65 being the gpu and 73 being the vram. Also got tons of sensors on my motherboard and in the case it self, so i dont need to touch stuff to know the temps, i can read em of software, so should you, stop touching inside your computer while running it, it can actually end up in a shortcut and break components in your system. Ill also let you know i own a Asus 3070 for my streamer rig and a ROG Strix RTX 4080oc so i guess that sorta answers your questions. In fact, i have had a suprim x 3090ti, 3060, 1070, 1060, 2080ti. i did also go for a 980 and i had a 480ti for quite a good while. A card i never forget was my voodoo 2 from 1999 when gta 2 launched. My first 3D card ever was a radeon saphire. I've build computers for 21 years, my own, and my friends, and their friends computers ive build and upgraded over the years, and i've assembled ( i dont like calling it building anymore, was not that easy to build computers before as it is today ) SO, when i say that, this can actually work, it is because i dont know you know the temps an nvme runs at, and i dunno if you have ever tried to run an nvme without block on top either from motherboard or one that comes with the nvme, but ill tell you this, ive done it.. ive run an nvme 1. gen without any block on top of it, no fan giving it air except for the air that is in the case. It never had a problem, in fact it works today in use in the very same rig it was build it, even tho that built is now longer mine as i gave it away to a friend. usually the readings of my ssd back then was 45-50 degrees, without a block... you wanna know the temps of my 2 nvme's that im currently using, which has speeds upto 7500/7200... well they have the blocks on that comes with the Rog Strix z590-E gaming mobo, and run about 35-45 degrees. Not much dfference. WD says that the maximum operating temperature for NVMe is 72°C. Now with that in mind that is pretty hot right? and even at that temp, you are still fine, but you don't want to push the temps any further. So with that said, imagine having it on my RTX 4080 which btw has output for fans on the card in the rare actually 2x4-pins are on the far end on that card, which means i could easily costumize additional fans to blow directly on the nvme, which would be in the back of the gpu, near fins, near the last gpu fan, near the intake fans and with additional fans if you choose tho even tho i think that would be overkill and unneeded. So yeah, i think it would actually not melt at all, and if you put a block on it that also help with temps, and in the very back of my card as i said, you could touch the backplate feeling it has temperature but NOTHING compared to if you touch the plate in the front which i would not recommend you doing, especially when the system is running. So now i have elaborated this alot, now please elaborate your thoughts that makes you so certain this will melt nvme's...
@shivs.goswami53793 ай бұрын
KZbinr:-Are you excited? Broke me:-Oh Hell No! Im Good! Thank You!
@ZachMcphersonMusic Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes i definitely need something that will warm my GPU up even more
@erictsui8802 Жыл бұрын
They have tested the temp, nothing was heated.
@Levinas-od5yx Жыл бұрын
@@erictsui8802 gpu w/o m.2 slot = x temp, gpu with m.2 slot = x temp + 'nothing was heated'. It's as if you don't understand simple logic or the word 'warmer' means.
@erictsui8802 Жыл бұрын
@@Levinas-od5yx If you can understand Chinese, you could just check the test session of the original video. But you don't understand it, and you're still here writing a very simple equation intended to make your point, how sad is that?
@erictsui8802 Жыл бұрын
@@Levinas-od5yx Just for pity's sake, I'll outline the test results for you. The SSD in this design is mounted opposite of what they normally are, with all the heat sources from the SSD coming into direct contact with the GPU heat sink, the temp of SSD could stay 42 C degree after 10 min Furmark GPU test.
@erictsui8802 Жыл бұрын
@@Levinas-od5yx Oh the GPU was 62 degrees C after 10 minutes of Furmark testing, lest you say I missed the point
@jamesmnguyen Жыл бұрын
We're slowly evolving PCs into SoCs.
@Demopans5990 Жыл бұрын
Well, AMD did get there first. I'd expect GB of cache from them soon
@jamesmnguyen Жыл бұрын
@@Demopans5990 Looks like we might get there in 5-10 years.
@VanSanProductions Жыл бұрын
@@Demopans5990 still waiting for AMD SOC on par with consoles.. If they make a new socket with RAM/CPU/GPU all-in-one that'll be great. They are not catching Nvidia so they should start just doing something different instead.
@RainyFoxUwU Жыл бұрын
@@VanSanProductions bro amd lterally did this. You can get a board with ram, vram etc and the Jaguar cores from the Xbox... And stuff it in an ATX case.
@Sherolox Жыл бұрын
@@Demopans5990 Didn't Gamers Nexus make a News video about that? 1GB cache already exists on high end server/workstation CPUs, iirc. Edit: Yeah, search for it. It already exists.
@Traymark Жыл бұрын
I had been paralyzed for 7 years before watching this video, but this video gave me enough energy to get on my feet to open my window and jump out.
@eye9have5you3510 ай бұрын
Seems that jump max paralyzed your legs this time 😜
@PrivateAccount8052710 ай бұрын
fairs
@Valery0p510 ай бұрын
Then you remember you are at the ground floor
@MoswenMedia10 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who was disappointed you can't dislike a video twice
@LazySpaceRaptor10 ай бұрын
Are you paralyzed again?
@Fernandosampaio_ Жыл бұрын
Today on How to cook your SSDs and lose your data😂
@extendedclipricco321411 ай бұрын
right, imagine this came out on the 4090 FE THE ROFLS WOULD BE R34L
@xero677411 ай бұрын
@@extendedclipricco3214please never say that again
@kingeling11 ай бұрын
@@extendedclipricco3214 what the fuck
@benduffy422311 ай бұрын
I couldn't tell you how many SSDs that were mounted under the GPU that ive had to replace because of this.
@rambu301311 ай бұрын
@@xero6774my man speaks early 2000s internet
@viddesigner980 Жыл бұрын
Not only that it cools off the SSD using the GPU fan, but also transfer the GPU's heat to the SSD itself
@miranda.cooper Жыл бұрын
Toasty
@farbenpracht Жыл бұрын
ikr.. putting the SSD on my already 80°C GPU that is at its cooling limits does not really sound right 🤷♂️
@I_Am_Empyrean9 ай бұрын
Nah, what's really cool about this is the potential for the gpu to directly access the NVME storage and essentially use it as a T2 memory cache. That's only if the storage controller for the NVME is on the GPU rather than Mobo/CPU though.
@hasangonendemirler97568 ай бұрын
That WAS a thing back then.
@skizm58048 ай бұрын
no, what would really be cool is if games could be designed knowing that this is an option, and be able to install textures directly to a gpu-attached ssd, meaning that data could be loaded into vram much faster, with much less overhead, and using zero pcie bandwidth
@daniillasso29168 ай бұрын
ATI already did this, It didn’t pan out
@skizm58047 ай бұрын
@@daniillasso2916 that doesn't mean it was a bad idea, just came too early and didn't give it long enough to be adopted
@michaelhanson57737 ай бұрын
@@daniillasso2916it was also ATI and not nvidia, which lets be honest, really is the dominating market so if they do something it has a better chance of making it further than if ATI tried it.
@achour.falestine3 ай бұрын
He sounds so happy
@tadashiminami75959 ай бұрын
Companies getting more and more clever on how get consumers to spend
@X_irtz8 ай бұрын
I mean, yeah. That's the point of a business lmao.
@quest27828 ай бұрын
@@X_irtzand they could lose that business by overcharged and nickel and dimming their consumers.
@Nim...8 ай бұрын
@@quest2782That's why competition is a good thing.
@HunterOfHalfLife7 ай бұрын
@@Nim... yeah until they all start offering the same price
@disguiseddv8ant4867 ай бұрын
People complain about companies not being innovative enough. Then when the company show the consumer their innovations the consumers complains about the cost, about how it's not necessary, about it's too big/it's too small, about the color, etc. etc.
@revenant_z Жыл бұрын
Year 2090: ughhhh, my 10000 terabyte gpu is full again
@NickNieves11211 ай бұрын
Well, duh... you're still using measurements and terms like Terabytes from over sixty years ago. It's like when people from the 2020's still measured everything in bits... Wait, they didn't do that then either?!
@revenant_z11 ай бұрын
@@NickNieves112 well, sorry! Misspelling. I meant 10000 gixabyte
@AbsoluteHuman11 ай бұрын
@@revenant_z it's just 10 petabytes
@revenant_z11 ай бұрын
@@AbsoluteHuman but its still a lot 😭 i am poor
@silvioantonio695210 ай бұрын
They will be using googlebytes 😂😂😂
@cappuccino-1721 Жыл бұрын
Use that SSD as VRAM… now that would be some good stuff!
@SlofSi Жыл бұрын
That came to my mind too. If the enormous amount of gigabytes of an SSD could be used somehow as a continuation of VRAM. Of course it's a lot slower than normal VRAM, but it would be at least close to the GPU unlike a normal SSD.
@MarcABrown-tt1fp Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't want to write much of anything to it considering how much data a Gpu goes through, it would kill the SSD fast. For reads that's ok.
@7kortos7 Жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly! or even a dedicated slot for AMD SAM (smart access memory)
@7kortos7 Жыл бұрын
@@SlofSi AMD smart access memory is kind of in line with that. would be really cool to see.
@CosmicCustodian Жыл бұрын
This is what I was thinking he was gonna say, but nope, just more storage 😩
@veti__9 күн бұрын
This has to be a new bi-/weekly podcast.
@PFG888 Жыл бұрын
That is definitely good, but I'm more excited for the Fiore System Airjet coolers to be available to the public. The Airjet can possibly be a great solution to over heating m.2
@damohr69 Жыл бұрын
this
@xAndrzej42 Жыл бұрын
I would be happier if they made pci-e x32. These gpus have 2 maybe even 4x more computing power than pci-e can deliver.
@hasangonendemirler97568 ай бұрын
Back in the history, graphics cards had user installable RAM slots. I was excited we were going back to the future for a second.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue5 ай бұрын
the only problem is that it ads heat to the gpu which makes a lot of heat by itself that's why they are getting so damned fat🤣
@ParadoxISPower4 ай бұрын
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue The GPU Chip is bigger that's why they are thicker, and the GPU generates more heat then the ssd, so it isn't adding heat. GPU's triple in size and complexity, so do cards, it's 1:1. In a closed system, adding heat will increase the temperature, but it will not rise infinitely. The temperature will eventually reach an equilibrium where the heat added is balanced by the heat lost to the surroundings. The temperature will not exceed the heat source because the system will reach a point where the heat input is balanced by the system's ability to dissipate heat. This is known as thermal equilibrium.
@JessicaMorgani3 ай бұрын
Number still goes up @@ParadoxISPower
@testtube17310 ай бұрын
imagine being excited to overheat your GPU by attaching a SSD to it.
@koollio97249 ай бұрын
💀
@DesroQc9 ай бұрын
Imagine thinking that your GPU will overheat because of an SSD...
@koollio97249 ай бұрын
@@DesroQc depending on the gpu the thermal situation would be far from ideal to say the least
@thomaskg38029 ай бұрын
"He's all about it, if it's the future"
@DanielDuhon9 ай бұрын
@@DesroQcit’s entirely possible if you’re running higher settings than your hardware can handle…
@noobsplaysensei33247 күн бұрын
Good thing you mentioned the SSD Temperature issue. When an SSD overheats it freezes its read and write to zero.
@limitlessrelaxation08 Жыл бұрын
"How to cook your NVME 101"
@germanmosca Жыл бұрын
How would it cook from this? You do realise that the cooling solution of current GPU's are oversized? There is more then enough cooling reserve in those cooling designs that they can take care of several nvme ssds.
@ichisenzy Жыл бұрын
@@germanmoscaSSDs get damaged if they get over 60 degrees and GPUS go way above that even on a 4060
@gabor6200 Жыл бұрын
@@ichisenzy Bruh my laptop SSDs are constantly getting cooked
@ichisenzy Жыл бұрын
@@gabor6200 yeah you should expect that on a gaming furnace
@vonshtoyven306011 ай бұрын
M.2 ssd heatsinks exist, even with their own fans.
@clintmurphy543610 ай бұрын
Imagine a GPU... that comes with ability to add extra VRam to the card. This needs to happen.
@sebay46548 ай бұрын
This is what I want
@hajjdawood8 ай бұрын
This is exactly what Apple does with its Apple Silicone. Whatever ram you get also goes towards the GPU. So if you order 256 gb of RAM, youll also have 256 gb of video ram.
@obj_obj8 ай бұрын
@@hajjdawoodthat's also what every single other laptop or desktop pc with integrated graphics does, but apple markets it like they came up with the idea
@hajjdawood8 ай бұрын
@@obj_obj There is several key differences, first its actually good integrated graphics (scoring better then the 3090 and worse then the 4090), second because its a SOC and the ram is also on the same chip the memory bandwidth is 400 GB/s verses a normal integrated cpu/gpu like then Intel i9 runs at only 89 GB/s I think its a bit unfair to act like Apple didn't make a very strong leap in CPU technology. Non-apple laptops are struggling to keep up with the nearly 4 year old M1 chips especially when it comes to performance per watt. Apple almost never invents anything new, theyve admitted as such many times over, but when they do something they typically do so really really well. iPads, Apple Watch, the M series chips, the iPod, even smartphones (iPhone) apple was definitely not the first but they did a really really great job that leap frogged them past competition for years and years.
@kentaronagame75298 ай бұрын
@@hajjdawood This feature is extremely old and has been used by windows machines forever. However, if you actually think that you can buy 256GB of ram and allocate it all to vram, you're not just uneducated on the subject, you don't even know how Macs actually work, because what you're claiming isn't even possible on an M3 Max.
@redslate Жыл бұрын
This is actually pretty cool. Kinda how like sound cards would pull double-duty as a joystick adapter back in the day.
@djDenimusic Жыл бұрын
Ahh man, i forgot about those times.. pretty cool
@Graxu132Ай бұрын
this is actually so good for matx builds
@VanBourner Жыл бұрын
Heat transfer has some specifics as to why mounting SSDs onto GPUs is a bad idea. Sure, it can cool your SSD. But only if your GPU is not producing any heat or produces less heat than the SSD itself. And GPUs generate a lot of heat, in most setups they are the main part you are trying to cool down. And that heat goes into the heatsink and PCB. And from that PCB or heatsink it would transfer to the SSD. Upper limit for SSD temps is between 70-80 degrees Celsius. GPUs often operate at those temps during games and if the heatsink is at 60 degrees during gaming session, an SSD that would be otherwise at 45-50 is going to soak up the heat and get warmer. So while in theory it seems like a good concept, you'd need to thermally isolate the cooling, otherwise you'd just warm up the SSD for no reason.
@akidafloof Жыл бұрын
the i9-13900K says hi
@josephschultz Жыл бұрын
@@akidafloof oh you mean my sandwich warmer it works as well as my microwave LOL
@cristianJoker2512 Жыл бұрын
finally someone who says right, this it's just like the sd card burning issue from rog ally , same spot near transistors
@akidafloof Жыл бұрын
Water cooled GPU and SSD lmfao
@ileapsy207110 ай бұрын
what would be more cool is to see something similar to that but as "VRAM upgrade" like you could buy VRAM and upgrade VRAM capacity of your GPU
@imo09876510 ай бұрын
thats not going to work SSD are far too slow, imagine running DDR2 with increased latency instead of GDDR6/X You going to have a stuttery mess, not only that the traces to the memory modules are the same length, now this SSD is completely off the timing. It can never work as a VRAM upgrade because VRAM is so much faster and integrated into the design of the board
@ileapsy207110 ай бұрын
@@imo098765 I mean who knows, we live in a world where technology is exponentially developing itself 🤷♂
@adamstewarton9 ай бұрын
vram is dirt cheap so they won't allow it , they want to charg us fortune for more vram on their cards.
@sebastien10479 ай бұрын
It was a thing before, where there was ram slots on gpus
@endermaster089 ай бұрын
From what ive heard, you could do this on very old graphics cards.
@olympiaalkisbarmagiann7859 Жыл бұрын
Me who uses an 13 year old laptop:
@MalwareEntertainment11 ай бұрын
Get external one like me
@TheCoolerMoonJam11 ай бұрын
Don’t we all friend
@kapilsds711 ай бұрын
I'm still using acer 8920
@00SEVEN2810 ай бұрын
Hey - just one R in the recycling triangle: reduce, it helps.
@olympiaalkisbarmagiann785910 ай бұрын
I also have a new one but it's more laggy
@comptvlee3 ай бұрын
Would super love this idea especially for small form factors where you're limited in space and mobo features
@Sn0wc4t10 ай бұрын
I still remember the days when sound cards had IDE ports. Looks like we've come full circle... XD
@orangeapples Жыл бұрын
As an ITX builder this sounds amazing. No need for storage options on the back of the motherboard with no airflow.
@Terraqueo22 Жыл бұрын
then you put an ssd on a piece of hardware that gets near 80 degrees normally?
@keelysmash7 ай бұрын
Honestly this could be super cool if GPUs in the future had like expandable VRAM
@lexecomplexe40837 ай бұрын
Actually, they used to in the past. I still remember an old card from my early days that had 4 slots to plug in memory modules on the gpu for expandability. The only reason we don't see it anymore is because the timing of the memory modules running through the circuit to the gpu die itself would be too slow for modern components. Faster than you can think, but still not fast enough to keep up. The memory modules would have no way to compete with memory directly on the gpu die or on the card immediately next to it. Sad because it was such a novel idea and it was brilliant at the time. 500MB GPu, quadrupled to 2GB. That was a ton back then. Having 1GB even was like, baller.
@keelysmash7 ай бұрын
@@lexecomplexe4083 Yes I’m certainly much newer to PC building than you the first ever GPU I bought for myself was a 1080
@SuperPickle157 ай бұрын
But how will nvida be able to make money? ;(
@Nocturnalphil1237 ай бұрын
The 4070 would easily become a commonly used card😊
@gargolgaming81015 ай бұрын
I have an old computer with an IGPU on board, with a slot for a VRAM card
@NotGoofyBenanymoreАй бұрын
Dude that’s actually awesome. I can’t wait to hear more abt these future projects with pcs. Thanks Zach!
@geografiainfinitului9 ай бұрын
In another timeline: Internal Email: NSA can now use the GPU to scan your files...
@Papitoti7 ай бұрын
Don't worry mate, you're most likely not interesting enough to be monitored
@OsiDio7 ай бұрын
@maxjes5 this. Hahaha, unless you got a few files thatll land you in prison i wouldnt worry. If the NSA wanted into your network theyd be there.
@prophetzarquon19227 ай бұрын
With trust replacing secure practices, stega usage getting really creative, & the price of meta analysis at an all time low, everything is now "interesting enough" to be monitored; it's just that very few things require overt intervention
@maxheadman597 ай бұрын
@@Papitotihaha that's what you think...
@Papitoti7 ай бұрын
Why would I care don't live in the US.@@maxheadman59
@Jv-tx1kx10 ай бұрын
It'd be really useful if the gpu can access the ssd and copy data to vram, otherwise it still gonna have to allocate space in main memory and then be allocated in gpu, which doesn't change anything
@banaana123410 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video? Its not about performance, but putting the PCIe lanes to use.
@stargazersdance10 ай бұрын
@@banaana1234 Yeah, and they're saying that it'd be useful if it did that.
@MorganSaph9 ай бұрын
@@banaana1234 Which is about performance anyway. "Look at all this empty space. It could be used for something" "Maybe it could be used for ?"
@orbatos9 ай бұрын
None of this is about memory allocation at all, just direct PCIE addressing to the extra device, which is supported in hardware already.
@barrettgeibel95389 ай бұрын
It's called resizeable bar. Look it up!
@anamnesis9729 күн бұрын
SSD aka Solid State Drive, do perform worst is they are cold, they perform better hot. But they have a temperature limit lower than GPUs, in average you dont want your ssd to reach beyond 70°C otherwise it WILL die, but you want it to be above 50°C ideally, as that increase it's life spawn and and efficiency. If your ssd is running at let's say 10°C or 20°C that reduce their life spawn. Anyway not doing a critic, just dropping that info to help everyone, so we can treat our pc component better so that everyone is happy~
@Ffbjfdvjki11 ай бұрын
Soon we'll have threadrippers built into our 5090s lol
@Twoorah10 ай бұрын
AMD did this 5+ years ago with multiple SDD for TBs of extra storage. Imagine if they had their current RDNA and card architecture.
@3DMarkRGBA9 ай бұрын
That device was a poorly conceived product. It was a x16 GPU meant to utilize that slot. The two SSDs added 2 each X4 devices to that x16 slot. All of these lanes connect to the CPU meaning that the slot is 150% oversubscribed. You would only see contention between the lanes when you utilize them. In the end the device would flounder and drop frames when you put it to task. As for the GPU speaking directly to the GPU, this could conceivably work but only the GPU would be able to utilize the SSDs . It’s better to keep devices on discrete slots/connectors for reliability and serviceability.
@josephschultz9 ай бұрын
@@3DMarkRGBA true but some mods and even new games going crazy with ram requirements this might be helpful although the heat being pumped out by some of these cards might just cook SSD's
@revdarian9 ай бұрын
Speaking out of your ass about it floundering and dropping frames, first of all it was a professional card not for gaming, the use case was very specific in video production and CAD.
@TheRealCobrax08 Жыл бұрын
Sounds preety good in theory and i am excited for the result😅
@l1ght608 Жыл бұрын
dead nvme back plate of gpu gets hot and isn't cooled by the heatsink and fans from the front. lol
@Dr.RojoMcDelly16 күн бұрын
For some reason I watched this all the way though and didn’t realize you was talking about SSD and not SD cards😂 I gotta go eat some breakfast
@maskednil9 ай бұрын
EA's graphic card: We've locked out a portion of the RAM. Pay 9.99 a month for full access, or 59.99 a year for full access.
@OldRedOwl7 ай бұрын
Barf. They would do this too
@piotrkowalski38697 ай бұрын
@@OldRedOwlthey already do this all 4xxx series cards use practically the same PCB. They just install less for each model. Con is less performance and lesser image quality. Cons are cheaper price.
@AndreyCata7 ай бұрын
You know, BMW thought about that. They try to sell subscription for heating seats. 😅😅😅 We can definitely see something like that on pc soon. Hopefully, people won't fall for it. Otherwise we are F***d😢
@lexecomplexe40837 ай бұрын
Intel actually did this on CPUs at one point. People were not happy.
@lexecomplexe40837 ай бұрын
@@piotrkowalski3869this.. isn't even remotely close to the truth. You don't understand how GPUs are manufactured
@-us3if10 ай бұрын
Putting an ssd on an oven is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard.
@harujp210 ай бұрын
it'll be on the coolest part of the card, add a layer of thermal transfer tape to it, touching the rad that can effectively cool the 2nd hottest component with no effort? ;) i would genuinely love to see thermals with/without an ssd on the card. I think it's a really good concept especially since gpus typically vent their hot air directly out the case . well alot of the air
@adamdunne66459 ай бұрын
dude that end of the gpu is not very hot at all. there's a fan blowing through the heatsink, that's it
@architectsxiii53799 ай бұрын
Then don't put it on the hot part moron? 😂
@Armand79th9 ай бұрын
Do you even solder, bruh?
@ihavetubes9 ай бұрын
The backplate runs hot as hell, you can cook an egg on it. I put a fan on my gpus backplate because it is too damn hot for my comfort.
@IrisCorven8 ай бұрын
Imagine if GPU manufactures took that concept, and used an SSD on your GPU as a way to handle shader caching in games, freeing up your PC HDD from bulky shader files that build up, with some games.
@meteor5417 ай бұрын
Thats smart ngl but why not just use sn ssd than? Moreover a lot of bypassing required to do so
@Cookiedible7 ай бұрын
HDD? What year was that written in
@JohnSmith-fq3rg5 ай бұрын
"Freeing up your blah blah blah to do more..." You know full fucking well they ain't freeing up shit. Performance will get even worse with more hardware resources available as lazier and lazier unskilled devs are able to use modern specs to skate by with even worse optimized games. The 360 lasted over 10 years on market running the same games under the hood as modern pc's and consoles with only graphical hits taken, all on MODEST specs for when it came out back in 05. Now with 8gb and now 16gb of ram standard, internet browsers take up 10gb for like 5 tabs and youtube, and standard run of the mill fps games can max out ram usage qhen they used to get by on a gig or two max for the same amount or characters, physics and underlying game logic being performed. Even new graphics technology isn't being utilized by the majority of games, just the additional vram for people who don't understand how to optimize their texture cache usage and just demand you pay more for a car with more GB, or demand that the vram be gddr6 instead of gddr 3 or 4 like it used to only a few years ago. The new technologies ARE NOT ground breaking or genuine improvements, just a slightly larger bandwidth which is nowhere even close to being needed for consumer software applications. These nvme's on gpu's will only be another burden placed on the consumer's shoulders by shitty third world devs that cannot actually develope software at a professional level
@marko37704 ай бұрын
and why exactly would they do that when they could just solder additional memory if they wanted to without need for ports and shit?
@thatguyonyoutube9892 ай бұрын
That sounds like a terrible idea. The heat sinks can barely keep up with the GPU's themselves.
@enoughtalkjustgiveittome7397 Жыл бұрын
My body needs an ssd so I can come faster in bed
@pawsyfurry11 ай бұрын
Ayo wait WAIT AYOOOOOOO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@YTUserOnYT11 ай бұрын
That would be called redundancy
@brothernero154110 ай бұрын
ok I'm laughing.
@funey9541 Жыл бұрын
This is a smoother loop than those smooth loop videos
@MarkReed-smokindeist10 ай бұрын
Not that unusual in the past. A lot of Amiga boards often had multiple items on them such as RAM on a SCSI HD Controller. I think it had something to do with how Autoconfig worked with Amiga Zorro and CPU boards. So this is a retro idea that is still a good idea.
@deairreoh10 ай бұрын
Alienware x51 kinda did this
@tylisirn10 ай бұрын
In this case it's more akin to a pass-through port. The GPU doesn't talk to the unused PCI lanes, it just routes them to somewhere potentially useful, like an M.2 socket.
@Space-O-200110 ай бұрын
I had to cut a hole in my A1200 for a 80GB drive that cost £315 back in 1999
@MarkReed-smokindeist10 ай бұрын
@@Space-O-2001 Did you stick a full-sized drive in there? lol There's a reason I really liked the big-box Amigas. :D
@Space-O-200110 ай бұрын
@@MarkReed-smokindeist Yeah 3.5", 2.5" weren't really that common. A2000/A4000s weren't really in my budget back then lol
@nitrodion20056 ай бұрын
Actually an insane concept that would sell amazingly
@zacharysliva40205 ай бұрын
There already was a product that is this exact concept, The Radeon Pro SSG
@therealkarokun Жыл бұрын
Waiting for gpu that has expandable ram 😅
@apryctic Жыл бұрын
holy that would be so awesome
@kayukshi4271 Жыл бұрын
i also thought of that like we can just add a sodimm ram stick to the gpu and get better fps
@wolvreigns Жыл бұрын
@@kayukshi4271nah ram and dram are quite different. Pretty sure like the 1030 or something had a varient with ddr4 instead of gddr5. And the difference it made was a lot
@kayukshi4271 Жыл бұрын
@@wolvreigns maybe a sodimm ram stick with vram for gpus might work
@taylon5200 Жыл бұрын
@kayukshi4271 no, it wont.
@BioGenx2b Жыл бұрын
I'm more interested about the DirectStorage implications that this may have, since the SSD sits closer to the GPU and could significantly improve framerates during asset loads.
@fendysuryanto Жыл бұрын
Interesting, but if your SSDs sit closer to your GPU then just run GPU Direct Storage instead of Direct Storage. Both GPU and CPU have specific condition in which their workload can be handle efficiently.
@Lagger625 Жыл бұрын
The short distance is irrelevant. The gpu is only giving the SSD its 8 unused lanes, their communication is still through the cpu
@branbroken Жыл бұрын
@@Lagger625on this concept build yes, but the point is theres no reason why a manufacturer couldn't build in an SSD like this and run it as GPUDirect storage, passing between the gpu and the ssd without needing to run through the cpu for everything.
@MrMediator24 Жыл бұрын
@@branbrokenthey would need to basically add storage controller lite to GPU for that to work without involving CPU PCIe
@EmongTimothy Жыл бұрын
I like how you think.
@kippo133 Жыл бұрын
It’s a pretty interesting concept. But what if you could add more VRAM via a port on the back? Any takers?
@shen8243 Жыл бұрын
Too slow for gpu
@babyhandsthegreat Жыл бұрын
Too slow, terrible bandwidth too.
@Pasi123 Жыл бұрын
Some video cards in the 90s had a slot for extra VRAM
@rogeliocano9536 Жыл бұрын
@@Pasi123yeah and it wasn’t good
@ujiltromm7358 Жыл бұрын
Imagine trying to configure VRAM timings just as well as RAM timings... and then there's the additional variable of extra VRAM port. UGH.
@jeofthevirtuoussand5 ай бұрын
Why is the worst gpu proposition, the best concept ever???
@simeonwood361310 ай бұрын
Could work, though it shouldn't be standard since most gpus do infact use all 16x lanes.
@JJ-gn1tb Жыл бұрын
Well there is also a chance that the SSD will corrupt due to the heat of the gpu, which we all know, it heats up a lot especially on gaming. If the SSD can withstand the heat of the gpu, then I'll support this concept.
@sjneow Жыл бұрын
The position they installed is pretty far away from the hotspot of the GPU
@ujiltromm7358 Жыл бұрын
Non-issue. The air coming out of the heatsink is lower temperature than the SSD heatsink and will cool the SSD, even under load.
@Demopans5990 Жыл бұрын
Probably best for watercooling. Some sort of waterblock that cools both
@fixminer9797 Жыл бұрын
If it is designed with that in mind by competent engineers, it would not be an issue. The real problem is that you’d need an additional, expensive chip to do the PCIe bifurcation.
@Tatusiek_1 Жыл бұрын
@@Demopans5990Pretty sure that if you have the money for a water block, you might as well get a higher end gpu that uses all 16 pcie lanes.
@informagico633111 ай бұрын
This idea could be nice to let SSDs access to more memory to load game objects and/or shaders without the need to involve many CPU instructions at the process. Edit: in terms of global computation, drivers that communicate GPUs with CPUs follow interface rules that may not be as optimum as the GPU hardware itself loading information from own disk memory. For those who say this is a limitation, it really isn't because during the "long" process of initialization of the game/OS, the reality is that the GPU obtains one more read/write channel that is independent from the computer's main disk space, leading to faster effective load times just because the GPU is avoiding two things: 1. Driver control instructions overhead (may be different between applications) 2. OS main disk read/write operations that may be used for other system internal purposes, or not parallel instructions that require high performance CPU clock times. And this also introduces a new potential paradigm where GPU programming becomes essential to write programs that let the GPU store it's own internal files/resources into a totally different memory channel without generating overhead with main disk memory requests. So yeah, it is just better, whenever disk speeds are similar. And people complaining or throwing arguments each against other should shut up and think they're not spreading really accurate information, but can offer a different view where disadvantages instead of spreading a useless fight. Thanks.
@The_Keeper10 ай бұрын
Right. that was my thoughtprocess too. Letting it act as an on-card cache.
@PEACEMAKERS_OFFICIAL10 ай бұрын
True
@4doorsmorewhors10 ай бұрын
@@The_Keeper the memory on a GPU isnt close to being the same as an SSD LOLL
@4doorsmorewhors10 ай бұрын
@@The_Keeper GPU memory is GDDR6... An SSD would never come close to being as fast. I can't believe you guys thought you could just strap a 1tb SSD on a GPU and call it a day 😂 Edit: GDDR6 NOT GDDR6X
@4doorsmorewhors10 ай бұрын
@@micaheiber1419 what does closer proximity have to do with anything?
@voidFutureVector7 ай бұрын
Wow, a youtube short that was actually informative. Cheers to you sir.
@nicosand8611 ай бұрын
it does give a new meaning to the term direct storage tho :D
@TVWyrm10 ай бұрын
Honestly if it works with the EGPU market this is a big W for that. Not only can you have an external gpu to run your more demanding games but you can have storage as well Without too much hassle. W
@Not_interestEd-8 ай бұрын
Also more storage options in mini-ITX builds. Cooling would be a pain, but a big enough heat sink to handle both the GPU and NVMe isn't a far dream. A singular 4090 chip probably runs hotter than both combined.
@bun00b8 ай бұрын
Kind of how back in the day we would install games on a USB stick to play on school PCs as we couldn't install any software on them, just now you bring your own GPU with it as well so you can play games on any pc with a decent processor.
@subrezon Жыл бұрын
Cool concept, sadly it would require consumer boards to have PCIe bifurcation enabled to work broadly.
@AutoMativeX Жыл бұрын
That, and I feel like the GPU's cooler would probably need to be redesigned from the ground up to support this. Otherwise, the M.2 would soak up the GPU's thermals under load which would impact IOPS and significantly increase the risk of bit rot.
@smaniz3 ай бұрын
Luv it! My PC needs a PC inside of a PC inside of a PC. And all of that a size of a small car. Brilliant!
@soumyadeepmitrayo94 Жыл бұрын
Asus RTX 4060 Dual: Primary Selling Point: SSD enclosure, Seconday Selling Point: IGPU level desktop card created to sell DLSS.
@SaltyMaud Жыл бұрын
I would be excited if the GPU could utilize the onboard SSD as additional VRAM. Comparatively slow sure, but would still enable completely new possibilities.
@MsHojat11 ай бұрын
It's too slow, so that should not be something that almost anyone would want. It opens up almost no possibilities If GPU wants to make a write to the drive it already has access to it. SSD doesn't need to be directly connected to the GPU because the write is so slow it makes no difference for almost all tasks. That being said what you describe was done in 2017 with the Radeon Pro SSG if you wanted a GPU that wasn't even particularly good for typical tasks but cost 7000 USD..