Your Mother once thought as you do

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The Scruffy Looking Nerfherder

The Scruffy Looking Nerfherder

Күн бұрын

Credit to @JarJarBricks01 for the audio.
Made this edit for ROTJ using THE FINAL CUT for the footage. I have a better version let me know in the comments if you want to use it for your edits.

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@JarJarBricks01
@JarJarBricks01 Күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure I actually made this line on ElevenLabs and shared it on Adywan's ROTJ thread a few months back. Surprised it made its way all the way over here.
@poseidon5003
@poseidon5003 Күн бұрын
A lot of peeople see Vader igniting Lukes lightsaber as threatening . I think that was just a bonus effect. Vader was admiring Lukes skill. Deep down he's "My boy built a wicked lightsaber. Yeah."
@martyg8137
@martyg8137 10 сағат бұрын
I agree, I never interpreted this as a threatening gesture. He was just checking out his piece
@MrJerkkeri
@MrJerkkeri 6 сағат бұрын
Way i see it, he activated the lightsaber because he was trying to change the subject that was emotionally uncomfortable.
@poseidon5003
@poseidon5003 4 сағат бұрын
@@MrJerkkeri Maybe, but I disagree. Vader wasn't uncomfortable until Sideous was electrocuting Luke to death. Vader saw through Lukes agenda and changed the subject. Not because Vader himself was uncomfortable. The only part of Anakin that spoke to Luke in that scene was the line "It's too late for me....."
@camcordernonsense5264
@camcordernonsense5264 3 сағат бұрын
Me too. Luke might be wondering what is he going to do with that ignited light saber?
@Nintendoggy
@Nintendoggy 3 сағат бұрын
"My son built a pretty wizard saber"
@BranakinSkywalker
@BranakinSkywalker 5 күн бұрын
Even if the prequels didn’t exist and he said this instead, that would still be a really powerful statement
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle 4 күн бұрын
It would have been nice for Vader to mention anything about Luke's mother. And now with the prequels, it makes even more sense for him to mention Padme.
@matthewrosenthal753
@matthewrosenthal753 4 күн бұрын
I agree it makes a powerful statement if Luke knew anything about Padme. But he didn’t. The other problem here is that you have all forgotten that Vader avoids those very memories and statements because it brings him pain and conflict.
@ImYourOverlord
@ImYourOverlord 2 күн бұрын
Especially after she chose oblivion rather than for him to bring her back from the afterlife.
@ob1spyker
@ob1spyker 2 күн бұрын
Yes it would have still been a powerful statement, maybe even more so, but as a function of the story at this point it makes more sense to mention Obi-wan as the connections are already established, and the audience is more familiar him. Mentioning his mother instead of Obi-wan also suggests a much larger role Luke’s mother played in the development of Darth Vader, which of course after prequels you can say this is true. This deep into the conclusion of the story arc mentioning his mother and suggesting the influence she had over Vader would have seemed out of place. It would however been a nice piece connective tissue between this scene and the scene on Endor where Leia describes what she remembers of her mother. I’m happy with the choice of using Obi-wan, when you include the prequels, mentioning Padme could have made sense.
@matthewrosenthal753
@matthewrosenthal753 2 күн бұрын
@@ob1spyker I disagree. In that Leila’s mention is from a direct question. The conversation also tells us that at this time Luke doesn’t know anything about his mother aside from the fact that she lived. When placed in the context of what the characters know as it should be. It makes no sense to mention someone to Luke that Luke doesn’t know. Vader mentions Obi Wan in his effort to reach Luke. It doesn’t work because Luke knows from Obi-Wan that he didn’t feel that way.
@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx
@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx 5 күн бұрын
“Your mother once thought as you do.” That line would’ve been more impactful, along with directly tying the prequels to the movie.
@sw1000xg
@sw1000xg 3 күн бұрын
The prequels don't exist
@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx
@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx 3 күн бұрын
@@sw1000xg Prequel skeptic detected. When you really think about it, they’re not that bad.
@sw1000xg
@sw1000xg 3 күн бұрын
@@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx compared to the new films they're genius works
@birthcontrolraccoon9785
@birthcontrolraccoon9785 3 күн бұрын
​@@sw1000xgThe acting and dialouge for the prequels was problematic but the back story of Anakin was good.
@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx
@AlTilleyTheBum-pt4mx 3 күн бұрын
@@sw1000xg Right. George Lucas actually knew what he was doing. J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson had their own ideas, and that’s how come the sequels turned out to be lousy by comparison.
@alpha5664
@alpha5664 5 күн бұрын
Luke is more like Padme than he is like Anakin.
@AlexNasvik
@AlexNasvik 5 күн бұрын
Exactly! Leia is more like Anakin than she wants to admit.
@MarcusPearl
@MarcusPearl 4 күн бұрын
Luke is more like his first Jedi master than either one of his parents
@alpha5664
@alpha5664 4 күн бұрын
​@@MarcusPearl you mean Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi?
@MarcusPearl
@MarcusPearl 3 күн бұрын
@@alpha5664 Yes sir
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 Күн бұрын
@@AlexNasvikwhich is ironic given she hated him up until her own death, and you can’t really blame her.
@SeptimusPrime
@SeptimusPrime 5 күн бұрын
I imagine he was crying under the mask when Luke said that.
@alpha5664
@alpha5664 5 күн бұрын
Well, he was crying emotionally. His tear ducts were destroyed when he burned up on Mustafar.
@mattshanley6755
@mattshanley6755 4 күн бұрын
I feel like this scene was the return of Anakin
@R3DSH1FT196
@R3DSH1FT196 3 күн бұрын
No.
@LaKellita1
@LaKellita1 4 минут бұрын
He had no tear ducts.
@MrScaryPasta
@MrScaryPasta 5 күн бұрын
RIP James Earl Jones 🥺 Gone too soon but not forgotten.
@Mr_Winster
@Mr_Winster 4 күн бұрын
Mr. Jones has been around since before most of us were even born, so he lived a good long life. But yes, he will never be forgotten. His legacy shall prosper in our memories.
@adammilette3076
@adammilette3076 4 күн бұрын
_"Remember..."_
@jm7804
@jm7804 3 күн бұрын
Gone too soon? The average male life expectancy is 76. He lived to be 93.
@chasevanderdussen8690
@chasevanderdussen8690 3 күн бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@emithefreak6631
@emithefreak6631 3 күн бұрын
Too son? Bro, dude was 93 years old lol
@downwardsaerial2239
@downwardsaerial2239 4 күн бұрын
And in the end, it was not the power he inherited from his father that saved him, but the kindness he inherited from his mother.
@patatebanine4278
@patatebanine4278 Күн бұрын
Luke has his father's strength. his mother's belief and determination
@ryanspencerlauderdale687
@ryanspencerlauderdale687 Күн бұрын
And her willingness not to fight unless absolutely necessary. If you think about it, that is an essential Jedi quality.
@JoeySpesh
@JoeySpesh 4 күн бұрын
“Your mother once thought as you do” would have been such a great line because padme pleas to him on mustafar “Come away with me. Help me raise our child. Leave everything else behind while we still can!” and even she couldn’t bring him back
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 22 сағат бұрын
The reason she couldn’t bring him back was, because Obi-Wan showed up. I’m not saying it was his fault though.
@michaeldexter2544
@michaeldexter2544 Күн бұрын
Luke is his mother's son, whereas Leia is her father's daughter. It was Luke's unconditional love and his refusal to give up on his father that ultimately brought Anakin back to the Light Side. Leia could never have done that -- not because she was weaker or less capable than Luke, but because she was too much like their father -- driven in part by her pain and anger, and thus incapable of believing that someone like Vader could be redeemed. Leah had seen (and been on the receiving end of) too much pain and cruelty to believe that someone like Vader could be redeemed, and she had too much pain and anger over what she had seen and experienced to be capable of even *considering* that Vader might be redeemable. Luke, perhaps somewhat ironically, had led a much more sheltered life than had Leia. Because of this, he had the luxury of believing -- perhaps to the point of naiveté -- that no one is beyond hope of redemption. Like Padme, Luke believed that no one is evil by nature, and that no one is truly beyond redemption, so long as they are offered love and forgiveness. And -- at least where Anakin Skywalker was concerned -- Luke was right.
@jamesboulger8705
@jamesboulger8705 2 күн бұрын
Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker is a textbook example of character development. To go to here from what he was in A New Hope
@danielyoung1074
@danielyoung1074 Күн бұрын
That's why Luke is one of the best, well written movie characters in the last 50 years. And also why Rey's character in sequel trilogy never really got over with most S.W. Fans. Lack of long-term character development.
@MAnuscript421
@MAnuscript421 18 сағат бұрын
"But I was going to go to the Toshi Station and pick up some power converters!" 😫
@tbowie614
@tbowie614 4 күн бұрын
At 2:34 in his mind, he's probably thinking "Well aint that some sh*t....." 😂😂
@functionatthejunction
@functionatthejunction 20 сағат бұрын
Well there goes that plan lol.
@badboi6247
@badboi6247 Күн бұрын
That line can work even without the prequels. It would make you wonder what she was like.
@Rometiklan
@Rometiklan 4 күн бұрын
"Then my father is truly dead". The 2 stormtroopers were like, "WTF? Luke Skywalker is Vader's kid?! Wait'll the guys hear about this!" Then after the troopers deliver Luke, Vader Force chokes the both of them to stop the info from spreading.
@gregorymoore2877
@gregorymoore2877 17 сағат бұрын
Or better yet, Vader tells them: "This is not the man you're looking for. He can go about his business. Move along." 😉
@matthewwilliamson1775
@matthewwilliamson1775 4 күн бұрын
That’s the one thing I would’ve done differently with the original 6. Build the links between them so we substantiate the relationships we needed to see. Luke and Leia and Padme. Padme would’ve been so proud of them. As one example.
@slashtitan1035
@slashtitan1035 4 күн бұрын
I’ve always thoughts for the longest time it would have been a much more powerful statement had Vader said “your mother once thought as you do”. Like a callback to when Padme told Anakin “come with me” on Mustafar. Very glad someone made this!
@ThunderBZaper
@ThunderBZaper 5 күн бұрын
Luke: “Come with me.” Vader: “Your mother once thought as you do.” Dang, I just realized…
@coleneil2239
@coleneil2239 15 сағат бұрын
What makes it more intense is that Vader says this with his back turned to Luke. He only turns to Luke to say he's on the dark side.
@wayneblake2222
@wayneblake2222 3 күн бұрын
I love this scene so much emotion between father and son. The new line put in still works like the original even without the prequels existing now.
@dk6419
@dk6419 3 күн бұрын
This, at least to me, makes more sense and, as others say, a greater impact. The love of his life still believed in him right till the end. This is an edit I wouldn't mind being put into the original.
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 22 сағат бұрын
Why would that be a greater impact?
@dk6419
@dk6419 16 сағат бұрын
@@trevturp6891 um....it's Luke's mother and the love of anakins life.
@dilloncrowe1018
@dilloncrowe1018 5 күн бұрын
I don't like most of the changes of the remastered versions, but if they did this, it would go SO hard, IT DOES GO SO HARD! And it's so simple too.
@TobiasWettergreen
@TobiasWettergreen 5 күн бұрын
But I like the music at the end of the updated movie.
@LordTalax
@LordTalax Күн бұрын
Settle down, emo.
@dilloncrowe1018
@dilloncrowe1018 Күн бұрын
@@LordTalax the fuck is that supposed to mean?
@Olamchesed
@Olamchesed 5 күн бұрын
She also said come with me
@functionatthejunction
@functionatthejunction 20 сағат бұрын
I suspected her of screwing Obi Wan... now I expect of you the same.
@AlexNasvik
@AlexNasvik 5 күн бұрын
Obi-Wan never even tried to turn Anakin back to the light side. He never even once told Anakin to come back with him. So why would he even say “Obi-Wan once thought as you do?”
@storybuff4939
@storybuff4939 Күн бұрын
He did on Mustafar. He did in an agressive manner but he tried. He tried but he fails. The whole dialogue on Mustafar after Padme drops is Obi-Wan trying to get Anakin out of his nonsense
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 22 сағат бұрын
Obi-Wan said I have failed you, Anakin. I have failed you. Anakin said that he should have known The Jedi were plotting to take over. Obi-Wan said Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil. Anakin says from my point of view, The Jedi are evil. Obi-Wan then said Then you are lost. He was trying to reason with Anakin and tried to turn him back to the light, but Anakin was being a dick to him and he reasoned that Anakin was too far gone and rightfully gave up on trying to turn him back to the light. He tried doing the same thing in The Kenobi Series and he even apologized, even though he had nothing to apologize for and Anakin was being a dick to him again. So Obi-Wan gave up on trying to turn Anakin back to the light side once and for all. That’s why Anakin said that Obi-Wan once thought as you do.
@somewhatstrange2097
@somewhatstrange2097 5 сағат бұрын
Because Lucas kinda forgot Obi-Wan was supposed to do that.
@LaurenceQuint
@LaurenceQuint 3 күн бұрын
I wish ROTJ had had the foresight to actually make this the line, since Luke and Leia's mom receive only the most fleeting reference in the trilogy. And, based on what we know of the PT, it actually fits whereas saying "Obi Wan" actually doesn't.
@chawk678
@chawk678 Күн бұрын
Luke senses there's still good in Vader but Ben Solo? "Nah, I'm going to do the least Jedi think I can do, murder my nephew, unarmed and asleep in bed."
@daviddunford8265
@daviddunford8265 2 күн бұрын
I like how it brings Luke and Vader closer by making it a family thing, rather than just some hope of an old master. It's like saying, "your mom didn't want me to be a dick, but that red hat was sooooo appealing!" :D
@richardched6085
@richardched6085 5 күн бұрын
They could have fixed this ROTJ pothole by having Obi-Wan actively trying to reach Anakin in the Kenobi series. But as it stands, this edit may be the best option.
@elderliddle2733
@elderliddle2733 5 күн бұрын
Obiwan did think that. It’s not a plothole. In ROTS he didn’t immediately confront Anakin. He wanted to see if Padme could help him. Obiwan had hope that Anakin would turn back with Padme’s pleadings. When he heard Anakin say he would take over, it was clear the Dark Side had him. Anakin had to be stopped. Even during the fight Obiwan pleaded to see that Palpatine was evil. Only when Vader said, “this is the end for you, my master.”, did Obiwan realize Anakin was too far gone to save. He tried to reach Anakin during the fight. He stayed back to allow Padme to help. He absolutely believed Anakin could be saved.
@richardched6085
@richardched6085 4 күн бұрын
@@elderliddle2733 The point is that Vader mentions that Obi-Wan felt this way. How could he know that if Obi-Wan never outwardly showed it?
@Deathpool_04
@Deathpool_04 3 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@elderliddle2733 Anakin wouldn’t have known that though. At the time of their mustafar encounter, he thought Obi-Wan was there to kill him along with them having their fight where Obi-Wan tries to kill him multiple times, and how Obi-Wan left him to die on Mustafar. Obi-Wan telling Anakin that Palpatine was evil wouldn’t have mattered since Anakin already planned on killing him which Anakin says when talking to Padme.
@primal1233
@primal1233 3 күн бұрын
I really wish he would have said that line in the movie. It would have been much more impactful and emotional
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle 4 күн бұрын
That would have made way more sense for him to say that and more consistent. When Luke said "Come with me.", Padme said pretty much the same thing as well in Revenge of the Sith, where she said "Come away with me.". That would have triggered that memory and both Luke and Padme were the only ones who believed that Anakin could be redeemed. Plus Obi Wan didn't believe Anakin could be redeemed and it would have been nice for him to mention Luke's mother. If there was another edition of ROTJ made, this should be included in it. ^^
@burtonryan50
@burtonryan50 4 күн бұрын
It actually makes far more sense now to have this statement there, and it makes Padme's final encounter with him more meaningful & tragic.
@stephenjohnston7630
@stephenjohnston7630 4 күн бұрын
Single best scene in the franchise, IMO. Jedi isn't my favourite of the movies, nor is this even from the best sequence, but just these few minutes of dialogue bring absolutely everything together. The "mother" edit doesn't really change anything, but it is an interesting idea.
@carsonwinbigler2364
@carsonwinbigler2364 5 күн бұрын
They should have definitely added that in the movie in the special edition.
@bencewohner305
@bencewohner305 2 күн бұрын
The Lion King, 1995 - Scar: But the king is dead.
@johnetheridge5833
@johnetheridge5833 Күн бұрын
Rest in peace james earl jones you are now one with the force
@emmanuelchavis6999
@emmanuelchavis6999 5 күн бұрын
I would have said my father is truly dead see you later pops
@FreakDaMIghet
@FreakDaMIghet 4 күн бұрын
I've always said that this is the one change I would make to the original trilogy.
@_Refurbished_
@_Refurbished_ Күн бұрын
Anakin truly becomes Vader when he chokes Padme and becomes Anakin when he kills the Emperor. You can see his conflict in this scene where he’s starting to realize Luke and Padme were right about leaving it all behind. When Luke is getting electrocuted, his unconscious paternal instincts kick in. It goes beyond his love of Padme, it’s the unconditional love of your child that sets his mind straight in his final moments.
@antoniogirgenti9738
@antoniogirgenti9738 5 күн бұрын
Luke: And who is my mother? I never knew her.
@Shineese
@Shineese 5 күн бұрын
Darth Vader: Uuhh... About that...
@or6567ange
@or6567ange 4 күн бұрын
​@@Shineese 30 years ago Obi wan: let her go Anakin Anakin proceeds to force choke padme
@projectlifedog1459
@projectlifedog1459 3 күн бұрын
You killed her
@antoniogirgenti9738
@antoniogirgenti9738 3 күн бұрын
@@projectlifedog1459 Darth Vader: That's what the emperor told me when I got this suit. Luke: Then how would I still be born? If she died then I'd be dead too with her.
@or6567ange
@or6567ange 3 күн бұрын
@@antoniogirgenti9738 Hishe emperor palpatine: umm she lost the will to live
@Blazingstoke
@Blazingstoke 3 күн бұрын
I keep thinking of Salem in _RWBY:_ "Your mother once said those words to me. She was wrong too." That line would have worked perfectly here.
@mccannimation
@mccannimation Күн бұрын
Pros and cons of this edit: I love the concept of this dialogue and how it fits with Padme telling Anakin he’s a good person on Mustafer and that he should come away with him. It also shows the conflict Luke senses, because Vader is bringing up painful memories he would normally bury deep down. My one issue with it as an edit is Luke’s reaction. Mark Hamil in this scene doesn’t react at all to the mention of Obi-wan because he is familiar with him, but his reaction would be totally different if his mother was brought up in conversation. That would open a whole new can of worms and direct the rest of the conversation/scene in a totally different way. For instance, how could Luke not ask follow up questions? For that reason, I wouldn’t want to see this become an official change. I still think it’s a fun concept and fan edit though. Perhaps in Vader’s mind, he was about to say his mother thought the same, but then he altered the truth and said Obi-wan, just to avoid that topic with Luke. It’s common for people to alter/hide details when talking about true events. I expected the Kenobi series to build off of this scene, but it didn’t quite turn out that way.
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle Күн бұрын
I don't think Luke would ask additional questions, despite the fact that he'd want to. Vader was already trying to change the subject anyway even in the original, saying he must obey his master and Luke must turn. Luke would know that Vader would either ignore it or change the subject entirely. Seeing how they know they are family, I figure it'd be naturally for Vader to bring up his mother, but because of the memory being so painful, he doesn't continue talking about it. Plus Luke is there to try to convince Vader, not bring up memories. ^^
@mccannimation
@mccannimation Күн бұрын
@@Yabuturtle I see your point for sure. The follow up question idea was just an example of how Luke would react differently. The main point I was making was the acting in the scene was based on Obi-wan being mentioned. Even if it was just in Luke’s facial expressions, his reaction would be totally different. Or maybe his reaction would be subtly different. Either way, It’s all just fun speculation.
@machineblue6212
@machineblue6212 6 сағат бұрын
Yeah I completely agree. Luke knows Obi-Wan, it makes sense that his reaction is more subdued when Vader references him. If Vader, his father, made reference to his mother, I think there'd at the very least be some kind of flinch. I also think it doesn't make much sense either for Darth Vader to specifically reference Padmé in this scene either considering only moments earlier he refuses Luke's insistence of Anakin's existence, and arguably by extension the person who most made him feel whole. I understand there's a lot of expanded material that's come out since then that delves deeper into Vader's morning for the life he lost as well as those he either directly or indirectly killed, Padmé most of all, but I've always felt that expanded, supplementary material designed for hardcore fans should not be so instrumental in the storytelling of a widely released film, especially when considering the context of when Return of The Jedi and the Original Trilogy as a whole was made.
@simplelifelost
@simplelifelost Күн бұрын
Best movie scene ever…
@matthewcollinsmc
@matthewcollinsmc 2 күн бұрын
In Vaders voice ‘I..I don’t like how your hair covers your ears. Cut it.’
@Deadman3913
@Deadman3913 4 күн бұрын
Stormtrooper looking at Luke at 2:48. After the lift door shut probably said “Daddy issues , huh? Don’t get me started.” Luke responding “Right?!”
@alexshank1414
@alexshank1414 2 күн бұрын
Stormtroopers: “Wait! Vader has a son?! Wait till the guys hear about this!”
@drkinferno72
@drkinferno72 12 сағат бұрын
Gets force choked 😂
@jimpikoulis6726
@jimpikoulis6726 Күн бұрын
You don't know the power of taking a dump.... Must obey my No.2
@hamitcampos4989
@hamitcampos4989 3 күн бұрын
Nice. But it's true. "Obi-Wan, there's good in him. I know there's." So yeah it's kinda true those were Padme's last words.
@functionatthejunction
@functionatthejunction 20 сағат бұрын
Vader: Your mother once thought as you do. Luke nods. Vader: And Obi Wan. Obi Wan once thought as you do too. Luke nods. Vader: And Ahsoka. Luke: Wait, who?
@UnseenMenace
@UnseenMenace 12 сағат бұрын
This is the ultimate "Your Mum!".
@shadowspidey7327
@shadowspidey7327 Күн бұрын
Would have been great if Vader mentioned Padme to Luke
@chrisyancey89
@chrisyancey89 5 күн бұрын
They need to change this for the newer versions they'll eventually release
@kevinemmers7025
@kevinemmers7025 2 күн бұрын
The word for father in Dutch is “Vader”. Somehow, I think this is more than coincidence, as if George Lucas had this role in mind all along.
@elisabethcordeamidala-skyw5066
@elisabethcordeamidala-skyw5066 4 күн бұрын
1:53 What?! He actually said that…
@harvestercommander3250
@harvestercommander3250 3 күн бұрын
No, unfortunately. I’m pretty sure it was AI for the idea. In the actual movie he said Obi-Wan. TBH this would have been a better change for the special edition.
@shadowbeast2276
@shadowbeast2276 2 күн бұрын
He says "Obi-Wan" once thought as you do "Your mother" was probably added with AI
@GR8NE55
@GR8NE55 Күн бұрын
Honestly, the Obi-Wan line is better because Obi-Wan actually fought him to convince him to come back and truly thought he was worth saving and told him that when he left him to die. Vader would have had no idea that Padme actually said that he still had good in him.
@LuLi-w7o
@LuLi-w7o 2 күн бұрын
Didn't he also say to Luke during the ending of ROTJ while his mask is off while escaping the Death Star: "You look so much like your Mother....tell your sister....you were riiight....you were riiight about me"?
@rickygonzalez2519
@rickygonzalez2519 2 күн бұрын
RIP James Earl Jones
@StarWarsStory
@StarWarsStory Күн бұрын
Such a simple fix, I love it!
@ZainR
@ZainR 3 күн бұрын
I know it's unintentional but the music at 1:15 always did remind me of Across the Stars
@BattleshipAgincourt
@BattleshipAgincourt 21 сағат бұрын
Why did Luke ever think this sociopath was capable of saving? This was a save 100 throw with Luke rolling a 1 with 100 bonus. By all logic Vader was not worth saving, owing plot armor to make the ending work.
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle 14 сағат бұрын
He knew the moment Vader decided not to kill him. Vader could have killed him multiple times. That combining with the fact that he knows he his Vader's son leads him to belief that there is conflict within him and that he can be saved. He wasn't 100% certain he could do it. He did know that Vader could be redeemed, but he wasn't sure if it would work. He had to give it a shot.
@aperezdeal
@aperezdeal 4 күн бұрын
I wonder if the footage of his (Vader)child murder rampage would have made Luke think he was beyond saving. Ignorance is bliss.
@Adarkane325xi
@Adarkane325xi 3 күн бұрын
It’s a pretty clean edit, but why not “Obi-Wan and your Mother?” It emphasizes how he betrayed - and with Luke, still betraying - the people closest to him.
@thatrandomredengine9430
@thatrandomredengine9430 3 күн бұрын
I would gladly replace the Jedi Rocks crap with this scene.
@IronMan3582
@IronMan3582 13 сағат бұрын
It's really telling of Vader's confidence in himself that at this point he feels he would be unable to overthrow Palpatine if Luke we to join him now as opposed to where he thought he would stand a chance if Luke joined him after the Duel as Bespine He's legit afraid of Palaptine in this moment, and I don't know I never caught that inflection "I *must* obey my Master" tells the whole story that his chance to seize control of the Empire is over until the Emperor finally dies of old age
@stonesfan285
@stonesfan285 4 күн бұрын
I wonder if Disney will create Special Edition 2.0 and alter the movie even more to do this. It would be a justifiable change imo.
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 2 күн бұрын
It needs a bit more reverb to. Match JEJ's original performance but it's definitely an improvement.
@MisterSouji
@MisterSouji 3 күн бұрын
Sucks about Fred's Dollar Store, though. 😂
@bogdangarkusha8727
@bogdangarkusha8727 4 күн бұрын
on one hand, i'd prefer this change. on the other hand, vader is very logical and it is more logical to refer to a person luke actually got to know
@Deathpool_04
@Deathpool_04 3 күн бұрын
I think the issue with Obi-Wan is that Anakin wouldn’t have thought Obi-Wan tried to redeem him on mustafar. He thought he was there to kill him, tried to kill each other many times during their duel, and Obi-Wan left him to die on mustafar. With Padme, he’s telling Luke more about what his mother was like but with Anakin still saying that even she couldn’t bring him back to the light.
@aaronramirez2610
@aaronramirez2610 2 күн бұрын
He hurt Vadar heart
@LordTalax
@LordTalax Күн бұрын
His mother whimpered about a broken heart then fell over.
@porcupinecraig
@porcupinecraig 3 күн бұрын
This is my main problem with the prequals. They don't match up with a lot of the exposistion given in the original trilogy. The worst is ObiWan talking about Uncle Owen: "That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals and thought he shouldn't have gotten involved" Huh? Anakin and Owen barely meet in AOTC and really have no relationship at all. Yoda tells Luke "You are reckless" Obiwan: So was I, if you remember. No we don't because we really didnt' see ObiWan being reckless.
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle 3 күн бұрын
Obi Wan somewhat was. Even though he was trained by Qui Gon mostly, he was trained by Yoda at first, like all the kids. We didn't see it in the movie, but Obi Wan as a kid wasn't the same as he was when he got older.
@heebiejeebies4625
@heebiejeebies4625 2 күн бұрын
That's what the comics and books were for, they serve to fill those gaps the movies can't.
@coreymckee4844
@coreymckee4844 2 күн бұрын
Hes probably talking about when obiwan was young and training years before they met anakin.
@isaiahhenio4556
@isaiahhenio4556 2 күн бұрын
Padme Is Luke's Mother
@coreymckee4844
@coreymckee4844 2 күн бұрын
YOU DONT SAY?!?🤯😱🤣
@shadowvessel
@shadowvessel 2 күн бұрын
That is cool🤘
@mcx1145
@mcx1145 6 сағат бұрын
Normaly it s : obi wan once thought as you....
@g.h.milanboseblut5616
@g.h.milanboseblut5616 2 күн бұрын
Wait, arent these troopers confused why hes calling him his father
@mohammadhosseini6675
@mohammadhosseini6675 Күн бұрын
Yeah the captain was scared shitless because his men beat Luke up before this meeting there is a comic.
@g.h.milanboseblut5616
@g.h.milanboseblut5616 Күн бұрын
@@mohammadhosseini6675 Hahaha, wonderful
@John-xf7ft
@John-xf7ft 5 күн бұрын
Would have been so good.
@spanishfly7709
@spanishfly7709 13 сағат бұрын
That’s not what he said!!!
@veggisteggis
@veggisteggis 2 күн бұрын
How did you get this in such good quailty??
@thescruffylookingnerfherde9584
@thescruffylookingnerfherde9584 2 күн бұрын
All in the description
@KingLouis_Trakking
@KingLouis_Trakking 4 күн бұрын
Why was he Just looking out the window
@Ragnarphone
@Ragnarphone 2 күн бұрын
En français il ne parle pas de padmé mais il dit obiwan a ue la même idée autrefois
@IzzyIrizarry-ci7jr
@IzzyIrizarry-ci7jr Күн бұрын
No No No!!! It was Obi-Wan who as thought as you do, not his mom!.. this is stupid how they're changing star wars .
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle Күн бұрын
This is a fan edit. You know that right? xD
@timotiuscherdic9248
@timotiuscherdic9248 5 күн бұрын
it should be Obi Wan not your mother
@Flamyll
@Flamyll 5 күн бұрын
No... At this point, Obi-wan was an enemy to Vader. An enemy Vader already defeated. Sure we didn't know Luke's mother yet.... But Vader drawing reference to her would signify that Luke was getting to him. Forcing him to remember a positive influence. Proving Luke's point. The good was there.
@Dagger_323
@Dagger_323 5 күн бұрын
Why? It makes far more sense for him to say, "your mother" and not "Obi-Wan" given that it was Padmé who had earnestly pleaded with Anakin to come back to the light. Obi-Wan was far less adamant about saving Anakin and more about eliminating his threat by the time he confronted him. Vader hated Obi-Wan from the end of ROTS onward, but did not hate Padmé.
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle 4 күн бұрын
It should be Padme. Even if the prequels weren't made, it would have been better for him to mention Luke's mother. But now with the prequels, it makes way more sense for him to say this, since she said the same thing to him over 20 years ago, and Padme also believed Anakin could be redeemed. Obi Wan didn't.
@timotiuscherdic9248
@timotiuscherdic9248 4 күн бұрын
@@Yabuturtle no, I mean in the movie, Vader said Obi Wan not your mother
@timotiuscherdic9248
@timotiuscherdic9248 4 күн бұрын
@@Flamyll Obi Wan wanted to turn Vader back to light
@lamontcranston3185
@lamontcranston3185 2 күн бұрын
Oh daddy, you're hurting me.
@dannytregle-ob3nw
@dannytregle-ob3nw 2 күн бұрын
The emperor is your master but who your daddy😂🎉😮
@E.OrthodoxMHNIN
@E.OrthodoxMHNIN 3 сағат бұрын
Hey, by the way who in the fuck IS my mother?
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