YOUR PC IS NOT READY FOR AVATAR'S UNOBTANIUM MODE - Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora RTX 4090 Benchmark!

So I bought Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora - the newest Ubisoft game made by Massive that is going to break PCs! Today we're going to see just how ridiculous this game gets in benchmarks on modern top of the line hardware like the RTX 4090! I'm also using a Ryzen 9 5950x, and 32gb of ram! If you're new to the channel, be sure to drop a like and subscribe for more!
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[@MrJays]

So, I'm not sure why the video is only in 1080p, I apologize for that. I tried to record in 4K, but Nvidia messed up and it only recorded in 1080p. Other benchmarks on the channel, and in the future will be in 4K if it has 4K footage in the video!

[@thepro08]

so basicly your gpu is way more expensive than your entire pc...... nice :)

[@MrJays]

GPUs have always been thee most expensive part of a PC, if not one of the most. Only thing that comes kind of close is a CPU. So I'm not really sure what you mean. But yep, spent a pretty penny on the entire system!

[@tonysanderson7741]

@@MrJays Not always but tend to be these days.

Dude, if your 4090 won't get up to 90%+ even with this Unobtanium-Setting, there's something wrong. - Maybe the programming of the game ... or optimization or on side of the hardware. I got the 3090 Ti and some games scale strange, because the impact of 2k resolution to 4k resolution is not a 50% performance drop, even if the resolution is doubled. For example in the game Red Dead Redemption 2 it is only a 10- upto 15 frames per second suffering from 2k to 4k resolution. In direction of 4k Resolution to only 2k Resolution the game seems to be very bad optimized, but in the opposite direction is the game very well optimized, because from 2k upto 4k Resolution and only loosing 10- upto 15 frames per second - ey common.^^ 120fps @ 2k, to allmost 105fps in 4k AVG - what is that?^^ I have the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, but for gaming I got the CCD1 mostly deactivated if the game is not that Core-Count-Hungry. - So let's say I play mostly with an overclocked 7800X3D, because it's running at ~5.400MHz All-Core, so it has higher clocks than regular. So, I mean that the performance must scale in the right direction and you can see if it's the code of the game which causes some strange performance-behaviors, or if it belongs to the hardware. - In most cases.

[@adir3025]

were you trying to start a fire? lol

[@MrDamo34]

Tried those settings on my sons PC. Fantastic first frame. Looking forward to seeing the second frame some time in next couple of days.

[@xandygameryt]

Every frame is a rollercoaster of emotions.

[@themagustava6662]

Lmao Gawd this is wins comment of the year

i'm crying with this one lol@@themagustava6662

[@AmongUs-mb4qx]

A fellow toaster owner I see

[@Ctrl_SEO]

This comment made my morning lol

[@geetube79]

This is the kind of game you use to warm up your room in winter after playing for a couple hours.

[@MrJays]

That's actually what I've been doing while I stream the game LOL It heats up my room so nicely :D

[@reidachtymichuk8582]

lol me in the morning warming my self with the alienware gaming black desert maxed out

[@harrasika]

Or the kind of game you do not even go near in summer

[@notchipotle]

sadly there is no winter here, it's either hot or super hot

[@Maradnus]

I Wake up turn the Pc on. Load up metro exodus.. Go get washed up & make a drink & come back to a warm room xD

[@Punisher6791]

Crysis Really did push the gaming industry and technology forward in 2007, we can thank Crytek for The quality we have in games now. they set the bar.

[@wille7319]

My PC still can't run Crysis //s

[@chaos7360]

yeah we need a new one to set a new era

[@nikushim6665]

Far cry and crysis were more of tech demos for their engine development. Shame the engine itself kinda turned into a janky mess over the years, despite them selling off the IPs ubisoft and focusing entirely on it. Modern gaming wise its gonna be rare to see anything actually pushing hardware thats fully optimized. Industry has shifted focus the past decade and a half to target the widest audiance possible to maximize profits. This means development will mostly be focused on dated console hardware, rather then the bleeding edge gpu's on the market.

[@trsskater]

Don't give Crytek any props for pushing anything forward. The reason why can it run crysis is even a meme is because their game engine was so unoptimized that it doesn't matter how good your hardware is that it doesn't run very well. They didn't even do short cuts that didn't work out. They straight up made a bad engine that they had the game rendering tesslation in areas that the camera doesn't even see when it was very rudementary at the time to avoid that problem. Why do you think its only can it run crysis and not can it run crysis 2 or even 3 which had even better graphics. Its because those games were actually optimized. And its no like no one was pushing the bar with graphics. Crytek is only famous for being bad.

[@tnutz777]

It used to be id, you needed a 486 for doom, upgrade or fuck off. Then quake came out and you needed a pentium, upgrade or fuck off. Then quake 3, buy a video card with good opengl drivers or fuck off. Then doom 3, better upgrade your whole system or fuck off. Rage was a similar but more complicated story due to consoles. Ah, the good old days 👴🏻

[@VideoGameKillCounts]

I turned speculation reflection to “Very High” as that was impacting frame rate massively on Max or Ultra - I saw no change to visuals but able to play 4K 100fps with DLSS Quality. 👍

[@DrPlans]

video is in 1080p bro..

[@BlueThunder1965]

The in game frame gen is using vector data to generate frames like dlss frame gen. The fluid motion is a AMD driver level frame gen that works on all dx 11 & 12 games. Fluid motion only uses the frames to generate new frames. Fluid motion is only available on AMD cards. While FSR frame gen works on both AMD and Nvidia.

[@pietzaken2220]

Nice test! i noticed that by reducing the game details tab from 25 to lets say 0 or 5, you pickup a massive boost in fps, without that much of a visual difference. Its like the names says; only details. I am playing this on my 3060 and 4060 laptop which stil looks amazing with a couple of tweaks. I do have some loading issues on the desktop 3060 computer, but thats because the vram (12gb) and normal ram limitations (16 gb). Stil playable.

[@MrJays]

Thank you! I have noticed that as well in other Ubi titles! The extra details slider is typically the one that reduces the FPS the most outside of the non-raytracing options, or shadows! I do love those extra details, but sometimes they can strain your GPU so much that you lose like 40 FPS!

[@pietzaken2220]

@@MrJays exactly and thats to much. Especially on lower and gpus like mine

[@technologicalelite8076]

Edit: Very important to know that all of these Frame Interpretation technologies will almost always increase latency (decreased latency is very rare). It is motion smoothing, not performance boosting. Perception and expectation will be different for everyone, so is best to test it out for yourself to see if you get a better experience. 2:11 I know i'm late to the party here, and not trying to be nit-picky here, just trying to get correct information out as a lot of people seem to get these two confused, but it's VERY important to note that AMD Fluid Motion Frames and FSR 3 Frame Generation are *NOT* the same thing. FSR 3 Is AMD's Super Resolution Package that Includes Individually toggleable/tweakable Upscaling and Frame Generation. This method must be intergated within game, has minimum requirements (Though not guaranteed to not work on older GPU's) of AMD RADEON RX 5000+, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1000+, and Intel Arc+, with reccomend requirements being a generation above that, excluding Intel Arc because it's already new enough and a 1st generation product. AMD FSR 3 has access to UI Elements and motion vectors to better prevent garbling and visual quality degradation. AMD Fluid Motion Frames (ADMF) is a Driver Level Frame Generation within the AMD RADEON Adrenalin Software for RX 6000+. It was available for aehiel via a preview driver, but is now available on the release 24.1.1 Drivers. AFMF does NOT have to be integrated within a specific game in order for it to work, just for it to be Direct x 11/12 and V-Sync off usually. And Unlike DLSS 3 FG and FSR 3 FG, This means it does NOT have access to motion vectors and other game data that can reduce latency or perserve image quality. It also tends to dynamically disable itself when gaps between frames are too large and during fast movement in order to try it's best to perserve that image quality. To counter this, it's also reccomend that those using AFMF should use HYPR-RX, which in inclues a Dynamic (BiLinear if I remember correctly) Resolution Scaling that only toggles it'self on during large amounts of motion Hope this helps some people out!.

[@mattcam200577]

Thanks for this video, really great and a brilliant explanation.

[@MrJays]

You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching! :)

[@overheatedeskim054]

Avatar has RT/RTAO built into the game no options to turn it off even at medium setting. Even XSS has RT/RTAO. I don't think they had a choice too much data to do baked in lighting for this game when every thing emits light.

[@MrJays]

You are correct, thank you for letting me know! I was going with it being determined by settings because the in game graphics menu says it's raytraced when set to ultra

[@misterPAINMAKER]

Too bad, you did not upload the video in 4K.

[@Chuuchuu0]

Nice content bro enjoyed watching..

[@MrJays]

Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I hope you enjoy my future content!

[@Crysoft2]

Okay, short explanation to CPU/GPU utiliztion: If you have a set of settings that GPU bottlenecks you (99% util GPU) and that makes your CPU work for like 8% util, then the only logical thing that follows is that if you reduce graphical quality the CPU utilization increases as your FPS increases because the CPU has to work for every frame. It needs to simulate the world, and "place" (calculate positions/culling/simulate) all the rendered objects so your GPU knows what to render where. This has nothing to do with "poor" optimization but how games are simuated. This is exactly why games like CS or valorant which have like 20 dynamic entities can run in the 500s of fps while games like the Witcher, AC, Battleroyals and Avatar can only archive that many Fps because they simulate sometimes up to hundreds of dynamic entities. Also the percentage of the CPU in Rivertuner is somewhat misleading as it takes all the cores and averages utilization while maybe the render thread (which drives your fps) is at 100% utilization. Similar problems can occour with GPUs nowadays because with Raytracing involved, you have different cores handling different things (CUDA for raster, RT for raytracing etc) this means that if the RT cores can only deliver 60 fps, you might have CUDA cores sleeping because the 4090 does not have a nice ratio of those for every game released ever. Also also turning on raytracing increases CPU load as more calculations are needed to composit the frame. AND with frame I mean non generated frame, as FSR and DLSS frames are generated entirely on the GPU. Anyway, I am happy you have fun with the game, just don't get hung up on the numbers too much.

[@platty7047]

unobtanium settings super 25 FPS 👍 where Crysis came out on Ultra 12 FPS with the high-end hardware of the time 😉

[@1234Jaytay]

Nice game. Good video.Keep up the good work🎉

[@MrJays]

Thank you so much for the kind words! I am glad you enjoyed the video! Comments like these make my day! :)

[@Likid_sec]

Don't be fooled by those crazy presets in games, most of the time you won't see much difference between High preset and Ultra but your FPS counter does. Unobtanium is just the unoptimized graphic preset to make people talk about the game.

[@2hotflavored666]

Yep, the devs admitted that the purpose of it is for the game to be a benchmark for future GPU's years from now.

[@istvanszabo5745]

The difference is definetly notable, but the game looks beautiful enough on lower settings too that you wont complain. I wouldnt call it unoptimized, it is just incredibly demanding. If you want to know how an unoptimized game runs, check out cities skylines 2. benchmarks.

[@chaos7360]

i always see a difference bc i have 42" 4k oled

[@hansturpyn5455]

Motion of the foliage doesn't look verry realistic tho. hope that improves a bit in later updates.

[@Jpilgrim30]

Too many people confuse necessary VRAM with ALLOCATED VRAM. Just because it’s allocating 20 gb doesn’t mean it’s using all of that.

[@MrJays]

Very true!

[@liamcollinson5695]

Now this would probably make a cool vr port

[@cloudpandarism2627]

cheers mate! thanks for the review. just got a 4090 installed today and looking for titles to throw on. why you upload in 1080p? please 2k minimum i cant see shiat 😆🤙

[@MrJays]

Thanks for watching the video! And I hope you enjoy your 4090! I love mine! Also I apologize for the video being 1080p, I tried to record the footage at 4K, but Nvidia saved all the footage at 1080p, for some reason

[@cloudpandarism2627]

@@MrJays it saved it in 1080 because you forgot set it to 4k 🤪 nevermind. i already heard avatar looks nice but the game itself is bad. so i dont want buy it anymore. so sad they missed the chance to make something better with such stunning graphics

[@Nightceasar]

Requires all that power and still looks like any other game.

[@MrJays]

Trust me, there are some scenes in the game that will make your jaw drop - Digital Foundry named it the best looking game of the year for a reason 😄

[@janirobe]

​@@MrJays this game looks like a ps4 game with just a bigger world and more draw distance. Like it doesn't look much better than Uncharted 4 considering how much more power you need.

[@MrJays]

@@janirobe Play it first. Also, you cannot compare to Uncharted, that's a linear game. Linear games have completely different optimization needs. It's like comparing to Last of Us. You gotta stick with open world games Like Horizon Forbidden West, or Cyberpunk.

[@CeceliPS3]

Since I'm watching this via an KZbin video, I gotta ask: did you find this Unobtanium mode much much better? Is the performance cost at 1440p justifiable?

[@Manosetremor]

I must say that its a perfect game for 1440p but I would not run the unobtanium setting with anything below a 4090 or 7900xtx. I play at 1440 ultra wide and because the unobtanium settings are not optimized I have had crashes so I find myself keeping just ultra on. Hope this helps as the game is amazing either way

[@MrJays]

So, in my experience at 1080p, I can say that the game look stunning without the unobtanium settings and gives an extra, like, 30 FPS! So that is great! But I can say that if you want *slightly* higher texture quality, or better shadows with caring about your frame rate, then it is worth it. But as another comment said, they are very hard to run, and can cause crashing. Overall thoughts - Eh, not really needed, but still nice to have if someone wants to run them lol

[@CeceliPS3]

@@MrJays gotcha!

[@joshuam4993]

No. Barely any difference. Disagreeing with the guy here. I have a 16gb 4090 laptop and I can run unobtanium with some tweaks, DLSS ultra quality, 4k, FG on, at about 50 fps. There's barely any difference besides maybe volumetric fog. Also he brings up Lords of the Fallen and that's just unoptimized trash, UE5 is also known to be very poorly optimized.

[@MrJays]

@@joshuam4993 totally respect your opinion! I can agree there isn't much difference unless you are specifically looking for the differences. But while I do agree UE5 games tend to have issues, Lords of The Fallen ran pretty great for me in my benchmark video! :D

[@DS-pk4eh]

Perfect game for the cold winter Does it have VR mode?

[@MrJays]

Definitely a great game for the winter, but sadly no VR mode

[@benjaminh4537]

once you game in 4k there is no going back

[@MrJays]

I look forward to trying to one day :D

[@PixelatedAK]

Avatar RPG, yes.. Maybe even beyond!! Love the streams MrJay.. Will be there as much as i can and Merry Christmas!!

[@MrJays]

Happy holidays! Thank you for the support!

[@NIGHTWOLF_5199]

@@MrJaysdoes the unobtaniu still work? And does it work via epic games?

[@iseverynametakenwtf1]

why is the video only in 1080?

[@yumri4]

I do not think it is a CPU bottleneck but a part not in the graph is limiting it for example system RAM throughput which just getting a better CPU will not fix if it is a system RAM problem which rarely is the issue in games. The reason why i am saying system RAM is the entire game should have loaded into RAM at the same so it is either GPU, CPU or RAM. You didn't run out of it but the throughput of it. It will be interesting to see how different speeds of system RAM with the same CAS effect performance.

[@ProMace]

Running AMD Athlon XP 2500+ and GeForce 2 MX. Do I need to upgrade or am I good to go?

[@Jtwizzle]

It may be using a lot of vram if it has it to use, for extra texture streaming or whatever. That does not necessarily mean it will not work well on lesser vram cards, like a 16GB 4080 for example. Cool video though ! I remember running this on my laptop 4090 and it brought it to its knees, haha!

[@MrJays]

That is true, but I think even if it were using the extra vram for texture streaming that would cause the game to either stutter like crazy or run at a much lower FPS while it waits for the VRAM and RAM to clear - that's what games like Hogwarts Legacy did. And while everything ran like crap, the textures were super blurry

[@Jtwizzle]

@@MrJays Possibly but its not always the case. Some games use whats available for things that may not bring any tangible benefit. I remember a COD from like 10 years ago or so that had that feature to use basically whatever amount of vram you had. When I had a 8GB 3070 laptop never had any significant issues on hogwarts at 1600p with higher textures.

[@narenm.s8923]

Bro's pc is cooking

[@eaglegaming88]

That GPU usage can be due to engine limitation or poor multicore optimization, I don't think it can bottleneck that CPU that much.

[@tnutz777]

I thought a game was cpu bottlenecked when the cpu was too slow to give the videocard resources to draw more frames. Usually that would happen at low settings, not max or near max settings. Or if there was just a terrible mismatch between a weak cpu and a fast video card. For example if you ran this game at 640x480 lowest settings, on a 2080 and a 4080, and get the same frame rate for both, that would be a cpu bottleneck, even if it was like 300fps. And you know this because the 4080 is undoubtedly an order of magnitude more powerful.

[@eaglegaming88]

Yes, but even if you put most powerful CPU we have now it won't be big of difference in this scenarios, if he showed all core usage it wouldn't use all of the cores, by usage I would assume game uses maybe 6 core at max@@tnutz777

[@creativeearthian1702]

Gotta admit, this is by far the best and most fitting setting designation ever

[@MrJays]

LOL

[@D3aThKult]

My pc is not ready for sure, my 1060 is melting right now and this is just a video

[@ichigokurosaki6536]

What a massive change 😲 Hey out of curiosity , if it's ok to ask, what do you do to earn income aside from KZbin/Twitch/streaming - sometimes I wonder what people do to afford such amazing PC builds 😅 Not to be disrespectful! I really hope to grow up and have income to afford such beauties for me and my siblings so we can game together, I feel like it would be awesome , but with how the world and economy is going, it's so hard😢

[@charismatic9467]

A pc with this GPU to build yourself should cost around $3k. You don't need an amazing job to afford that, especially if you save, stop buying dumb stuff, wait for sales, etc. Also not sure what job you have but if you are working an entry level retail/food service job I highly recommend getting a trade job. Look for landscaping, electrician, plumber, construction work in your area and shop around. If you find the right boss/company/mentor you can very quickly learn the trade and you'll make considerably more than working say retail or food service.

[@ichigokurosaki6536]

@charismatic9467 Thanks for the response! I live in the UK, and job scarcity is a very big thing. I am a student currently studying CompSci, Hardware engineering and involved in building FPGAs for Companies such as Kone industries and Hynix (memories) and software and Cyber security engineering for Businesses such as Meta and Crowdstrike. Since I am just a student, I can only earn so much from doing part time work, internships and contractual jobs for these companies (my main 'agreement' is currently Lattice & TSMC Superconductor and Crowdstrike) But even after my degree is done in couple years, I will still be in a range of £35,000 minimum while paying off student debt and support my family during this Cost of Living crisis. I understand my fortunate skills and position can earn me high paying jobs in the future but regardless of my experiences, some things still are just how it is I will need few years industrial experinece to be earning avg of £75,000 given my potential roles from my practical experiences, knowledge and hands on understanding. I don't spend money on material clothes, or partying here and there and I try to save where I can. Hoping to get into investments such as stocks n shares or SNP500's , but alas. A decent enough 4090 here costs at least £2000 given how rare it is/can be to obtain brand new, and the parts alongside it I wish to be epic, especially since not just for gaming, but it supports my in Rendering, AI computation, work and study. Hence my question was the field the KZbinr works in and how their part was accessible for them (given the history of the channel, they own multiple decent parts collectively which is awesome!) No gripe here, I just admire people nowadays and wish to learn more, even if it is silly to do this over a youtube comment. I'd rather love, ask and admire than to hate or point out anything criticising

[@Butcherbg]

I don`t understand your CPU bottleneck claim. If the CPU works on like 20% of it`s Capacity and the GPU (actually not bottomed out either from what I saw, on the 1080p test). This game on 1080p is in fact not 100%ing the hardware you have at any point at all, for any sort of "bottleneck" to appear. But still... Isn`t CPU bottleneck when the CPU hits 100% utilization "first" and the GPU stands >bellow< that at all points. For example how I know my CPU of choice (and financial capabilities) have like a lil bit of GPU "room to grow" is that when I play the game that I play on V sync (I am not telling @ what refresh rate monitor for 1080p because it will get you sad :P) the CPU is like 15~20-30% and the GPU is like 45~52%... When I Uncap (remove the V Sync) the GPU hits 95% + (a.k.a. does all that it can) CPU still goes up to respectable 60%. So I am thinking if I put a grade or few above GPU I'd hit something like 90% + CPU on 100% GPU. If I "overkill" the GPU upgrade and the CPU becomes bottleneck it`d be something like 100% CPU 80% GPU (I have been there before... because I had CPU, much, much, much older than the GPU and they were in theory both 100/100 on the same game (for lower result than 20/45 on capped on my current hardware) but in reality, if the CPU was newer the GPU would have probably juiced some FPS on top out of it`s 100%. Why Would I Buy a PC that plays the game that I want with 20% CPU and 45% GPU utilization... the way I've always wanted to... Well there are many reasons. It is worth it. Also the game have which have like up to 5 - 6 times the requirements of your 85% + of the gameplay time (variegating on personal preference and choices).

[@MrJays]

So, in some cases you are correct, using 100% of your CPU and not using 100% of your GPU is a CPU bottleneck, but that only typically happens with low core count CPUs in my experience, like on my old i7 6700k with only 4 cores and 8 threads. But, on CPUs with high core count like my current 5950x with 16 cores and 32 threads I only ever see it hitting MAYBE 75% on games like Division 2; everything else is lower. But I know I am still CPU bottle necked when my GPU usage is less than about 80%, meaning your GPU is not using its full capabilities because it's waiting for the CPU to catch up. So even though I was only using about 20-25% CPU, the GPU drops to about 50-70% because it is MUCH faster than the CPU is. It's also the fault of game developers not truly supporting high core count CPUs. They only account for about 4-8 cores in most games, so CPUs with more than that just have half of the CPU idling while the other half is struggling to run the game. Hope this helps :D

Dont listen to what op says. He has 0 clue what he is talking about...

[@MarkLikesCoffee860]

If an 8-core CPU has 1 core at 100% and 7 cores at 0%, it's a CPU bottleneck, even though the CPU is at 12.5%. This is because 8 x 12.5 = 100%. 2 cores at 100% would also be a CPU bottleneck even though the CPU is at 25% of its capacity. 4 cores at 100% would also be a bottleneck even though the CPU is at 50% capacity. The CPU in this video has 16 cores so a CPU bottleneck could easily be at less than 20% capacity. The overlay in the game isn't showing a breakdown of what each core is doing so you can't judge on whether there's a bottleneck or not. Although it did look like there was in places when the GPU usage dropped to the low 80s.

[@amosreginaldjr.4200]

this is like the mode in doom eternal where it supports 1000FPS. it is there mostly for the future, if someone wants to play this thing decked out in 5 years, here you go!

[@shubhamabhisek6780]

Your GPU is seriously bottlenecking your CPU in every resolution, especially in 1080p. RTX 4090 is not meant for Ryzen 5000 series. You should upgrade to Ryzen 9 7950x 3D, Then benchmark it again, you 'll see massive increment. & Atlast, FSR is useless in your case bcz FSR works more efficiently with only AMD GPUs. I know it bcz I own one. And yes the game needs more patchs for smoother experience.

[@salteabutwhy2939]

Looks like it runs good to me. Been flawless on my 4090 + 13900ks.

[@MrJays]

Same here! Looks incredible, and runs amazingly! Glad you're having a good time with the game also!

[@2hotflavored666]

"Looks like it runs good to me" "4090" Hmmm... I wonder why that is 🤔

[@solidus317]

@@2hotflavored666the thumbnail has a 4090 in it and the title states that your PC isn’t ready. Get it?

[@2hotflavored666]

@@solidus317 The title is just clickbait. You would know that if you watched KZbin for more than 2 months. Get it?

[@solidus317]

@@2hotflavored666 yet you reply negatively to a comment while not using the same knowledge/logic that you claim to have had. Adds zero value. Screams “I have nothing even close to a 4090 and I’m salty”.

[@i3looi2]

Oh man.. games in 10 years ? WILL BE WILD !

[@CarlKahler]

Key word's here "Your Opinion"

[@MrJays]

Aren't opinions great :D

[@Henkizen]

your computer cost +6k dollar and you get 50 fps.. I have no words how bad that is... Its like you buying a ferrari and the max speed is 50km/h.. The game must be so bad optimized. thank you for sharing

[@djargen]

I play it on ultra settings with FSR 3 frame gen on ultra quality and playing it with a controller it feels really smooth on my RTX 4070, definitely the most demanding but most beautiful game I ever played (note: I noticed that putting a frame limit in nvidia control panel 2 frames below your monitor refreshrate makes the game feel a lot smoother with the frame generation on. I put mine at 142 fps frame limit because the game started to feel stuttery when going above 144 fps)

[@Kivas_Fajo]

Nice PC specs you have there. How come you get so low framerates? Mine is 5800X3D, RTX4090, 32 GB RAM, 990 Pro, X570S Mainboard from Gigabyte, 1500 W PSU BeQuiet!, 1440p monitor 27# So, lower specs, than you, but my framerate is like 120 and above..? So...what is it, that you are doing wrong here?

[@alphanecha]

CPU is slow

[@Kivas_Fajo]

@@alphanecha I would think a 16 Core CPU is faster than an 8 core, wouldn't you agree?

[@Nayah9]

You don't have lower specs than him. The 5800X3D is much faster than the 5950X for gaming. That's what the 3D cache is for. The 5950X wins for non-gaming tasks though.

[@Kivas_Fajo]

@@Nayah9 You don't say! ^^

[@gabriellanzer]

Why are you running in Borderless Fullscreen? Usually exclusive fullscreen skips some windows management code paths and has better performance and stability overall...

[@MrJays]

I always run borderless fullscreen since I typically stream my gameplay, I need to alt tab way more than others would. But from what I've noticed in the last few years, fullscreen doesn't offer any more FPS improvements over borderless fullscreen; best case scenario I've seen is it reduces stutters a bit in some games

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Borderless fullscreen doesn't have any disadvantages.

[@agustinpaoletti5736]

it is impossible to see the diference . The video is uploaded at 1080p trying to show a video at 2160p.

[@younansahar]

This is no longer a game, it's a real-time movie graphics level

[@jl2398]

good sir, could you do bench mark on this monster of a card on Naraka bladepoint? it's free on steam, I'm thinking of doing 2k 300hz max setting with DLS performaance for it but not sure if thats possible

[@Aixalld]

running it on my 3090 with all the settings turned on high, it looks so good, love this game, i hope they make some dlc or work on a second game,

[@MrJays]

They have a season pass on the Ubisoft store for the game that says they have two DLCs planned! So lets hope they're good!

[@lithari1480]

I honestly don't notice the difference and most people don't just stop at every single leaf to see the quality difference, which is why i think combining ray-tracing into the quality presets is dumb, they should have had it have its own tab, cause from experience RT is never worth the hit to performance.

[@MrJays]

I do agree that the graphical differences are very subtle, and that games should offer an RTX tab so players can toggle it only if they want to. Only bad part about that is it means devs will have to place all the lights in the game manually, then remove them if the player turns on RTX; essentially making even more work for them when creating levels

[@randomeone100]

As an intel integrated user the title hits hard.

[@ramlaaal]

what about visuals at night time. does this game have night. if yes does things glow at night like they do in movie.

[@MrJays]

If you check out some of the shots at the end of the video, I do have a couple night time ones! The night time is gorgeous with the bioluminescence, and the light from the planet makes it so bright and beautiful!

[@chemicalbreath]

My 1440p monitor can only hit 75hz with freesync. I also can only focus with one eye at a time. So visual looks are not a big deal to me. Have a 5800x and a 7800 xt. Probably start with high and see how it goes.

[@erik7131]

A dinosaur death animation glitchingly stuck in mid air was maybe not the best clip to pick for hyping up the game

[@MrJays]

What clip are you talking about?

[@LegionIscariot]

My pc doesn't want any Ubisoft copy/paste games.

[@GyanPrakash]

Imagine, playing it in VR, you’ll be on PANDORA 😭

[@karanracha9830]

i have a 4090 on 3440x1440 screen. unobtanium gives 45fps and is literally the same as high except for darker midtones in shadows. and high is 120fps. dont mistaken unobtanium as a next gen setting, its literally like high.

[@MrJays]

So, I will say that they did a great job at making the lower settings look really good in this game, the differences between the higher and lower settings are more subtle (that's awesome) - but, there's definitely are differences between unobtanium and even ultra settings, they are just *super* hard to see unless you are looking for them. Definitely not worth the major performance impact to some people, but I wouldn't say it's comparable to high settings, personally.

[@RaspyYeti]

Would love to see the Division 2 with Unobtanium settings

[@MrJays]

OMG I would love that!

[@kevinmastrapaoro1988]

I open the game and i dont have that one settings i mean i cant put unobtonium the maximun is ultra so what i nedd to do with that????? guys

[@MrJays]

As I said in the video it's a secret settings mode, so you have to add the commands I mention in the video into the launch arguments in the Ubisoft launcher

[@Elintasokas]

Why do you upload a 1080p video to showcase 4k?

[@MrJays]

I normally do record in 4K, and I tried to for this video too, but Nvidia had an error and only recorded in 1080p. Other benchmarks and videos that have 4K footage will be in 4K on the channel, as usual.

[@hristog1997]

I think you weren’t upscaling and only using frame gen at native resolution.

[@MrJays]

I do believe I was yeah, I must've forgotten to change that. But that just makes it all the more impressive :D

[@weeta34]

Hello MrJay, FYI, Ghost Recon games don't use Snowdrop but Anvil engine

[@MrJays]

Ohhh, you are right! That's my bad! I honestly thought they were on Snow Drop! Thank you for correcting me! :D

[@weeta34]

@@MrJaysno pb 😉 you’re welcome

[@squirrel_ca9745]

How can you say you are CPU limited but the CPU usage is only hovering around 16 - 20% ? GPU usage was around 79 - 80 something %

[@MrJays]

High core count CPUs don't bottleneck at 100% usage while gaming, unless the game is crazy unoptimized. I have 16 cores, so if a game only uses 4 cores, that's 25%, so 20-25% usage is using all 4 if the cores the game can use, and that's why the GPU usage wasn't above 80-90% like it should be

[@lawyerlawyer1215]

4090 perfect experience guide: Step one: unlock unobtaniin settings. Step two: download DlSS frame generation mod with DlSS depth fix. Step 3) sett everything to max , motion blur to off , specular reflections to ultra , and environmental reflections quality to high , max doesn’t changes anything to either of this settings and has a performance hit. (You can gain about 7-8 gps putting this 2 settings 1 step down with 0 visual sacrifices, literally, not like the eye blind people that say that settings that do make difference, make none. This 2 settings are not currently working properly, it’s free performance guys , just take them 1 step down) Set DlSS to balanced , enable DlSS frame generation with preset C through the reshade comand of the mod. Enjoy an unobtanium settings 90-110 fps 4K experience that looks exactly like native.

[@sankaplays3098]

ah yes lets heavily rely on DLSS with a 2.5K ish videocard. Braindead Ngreedia buyers.

[@Neko_Senpai]

played the game during the holiday and it look amazing on the Xbox Series S and looked amazing on PC at max settings Ubisoft really made one of the most beautiful games I ever played.

[@MrJays]

I totally agree! It's absolutely stunning!

[@freezinghawt]

may i know how is the game cpu bottlnecking eventhough the cpu does not even reach more than 30% usage?

[@alexwithanx]

The guy doesnt know what hes talking about its simply because the game is badly optimized.

[@Bronwyn031]

I just unlocked the "Unobtanium" setting on my 14900K/4090 MSI Liquid Suprim/GSkill 64GB of 6000MT/s RAM. My goal is to hit 4K Full UnOb settings 60fps. Turned on FSR3 with frame gen and removed motion blur (yuck) and ran the benchmark to an average of 60fps with low drop to the 55-56fps. Loaded my save and the game will maintain 60fps for the majority but if you go look at water with RTX reflections on UnOb, the FPS will drop to the low 50's. I switched back to full ULTRA with FSR3 w/frame generation and the game is a solid lock to 60fps. I switched back and forth between Ultra and UnOb and the difference is so subtle it is not worth the fluctuating frame-times. Running Ultra+. Cranked up the texture density from UnOb settings and the game will use 22GBs of my 24GBs of VRAM. Zoinks! I also added UnOb particle effects, volumetric clouds, shadows and a few other settings from UnOb. My current game is a near rock solid 60fps just running around in awe at Avatar's visual beauty with a slight dip to 56-58fps here and there. With HDR on, I swear shots in this game look like they're straight from the films. Pure Sublime Eye P**n!!!

[@MrJays]

That's awesome to hear! This game is amazingly gorgeous and I totally agree, I was awe struck by its beauty constantly! :)

[@Serpico360]

It's kind've ridiculous and insulting to the end user to include these options knowing that most setups wouldnt be able to use them. Whats worse is that even with all the settings turned up to max, the game isn't jaw droppingly beautiful. If you've never seen the game before you wouldn't walk away saying "OMG I totally see where all that processing power went." The game looks unimpressive, IMHO, at any setting.

[@MrJays]

Well, I think that's why these Unobtanium settings were removed, and can only be access through the code in the launcher, because they knew it wouldn't be - no pun intended - obtainable for most modern PCs right now lol. But also, I will say that during my time with the game, and other friends of mine agree, we've all seen views that to make us go "WOW, that is gorgeous!" I think it's something you need to see for yourself, maybe? It's like the first time you play Ghost of Tsushima, and you see those big field of grass all flowing in the wind with leaves. It's just like that feeling for me :D

[@suthishofficial]

How is that a CPU bottleneck if it only uses 20% 100% usage is considered bottleneck for both CPU and GPU

[@MrJays]

When you have a high core count CPU - like higher than 8 - you wont see 100% usage during a game because that are typically optimized for 4 or 8 cores. So for my 5950x I don't see more than 60-70% usage on the absolute highest end. And you can tell it's a CPU bottleneck when the GPU usage drops below about 80%. Which in this video at the low resolutions the GPU hardly hits 90% usage. And averages 50% usage on the GPU because it's just waiting for the CPU to finish.

[@suthishofficial]

@@MrJaysCheck single core performance if it's not 100 it's underperforming not bottleneck. I have an old cpu with latest GPU all cores at max only producing 80 fps in 1080p. so I changed to 4k monitor it still renders around 80 fps. So i Didn't change cpu. So upgrade to better resol don't spend more on cpu.

[@mattwright6249]

I have a 5950x and a 4090, now I dont need to do this benchmarking thanks! I dialed in the settings to play well at 100-120fps on my 144hz 4k display.

[@daviddavis5608]

Good Video. Might just be me, but I've never looked at 10-25% CPU usage as being CPU bottlenecked.

[@MrJays]

Hey thanks! Glad yo enjoyed the video! And, the CPU usage being so low is only a result of my 16 core CPU - so I wont see 100% usage as being a bottleneck. Most PC games only use about 4 cores, so that's 25% of 16 :D So my 25% usage with 16 cores is 50% usage to someone with only 8 cores, and so on

[@onemor3809]

So, we already have next gen games, but when does affordable next gen hardware coming out? 😅

[@MrJays]

Sure as hell wont be the 5000 series, I'm sure 😂 Hopefully soon though!

[@jacobernest4083]

It is and it is Amazing!!!

[@lukewoodz2079]

this is exactly why i just got a ps5 ,demanding pc games cant even run properly on a 4090 so what's the point in spending thousands just to run these games in less performance than a console

[@NIGHTWOLF_5199]

Can you do this custom unobtanium settings on Epic Games?

[@MrJays]

Ummm, I am not sure, but always worth a check if you can add launch commands like Ubi and Steam lets you!

[@MotoMedicine904]

I play this on my 4070ti using the Ultra preset with FSR 3 Frame gen and I get an average of 100 fps which is just fine for this style of game.

[@MrJays]

That's awesome! :D

[@goatfahter]

Just imagine there is a fps pvp game damn

[@289kman]

I'm shocked they did not charge for the mode

[@traptinmymind186]

I tried unobtanium mode on my XTX at 1440p and only got around 100fps. But it looks SO beautiful 😍

[@MrJays]

That's awesome! Glad it ran great for you! :D I'm loving the game too!

[@ReaZVI]

i dont understand why would you render the vide in 1080p tho

[@MrJays]

I tried to record in 4K, but thanks to Nvidia it didn't record in 4K, and only kept the recordings in 1080p for some reason

[@BsATR0X]

I don't understand how to put the code in the Ubisoft Launcher folder. Can you explain this to me please !?

[@MrJays]

In the Ubisoft launcher, on the game you'll see a little arrow, click that and go to 'view game details' then on the left go to properties, and at the bottom put the code inside of 'game launch arguments' :D

[@BsATR0X]

Done Thank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@MrJays

[@W4r10ckm4n]

I've got every setting maxed out on my 7900XTX and AMD's FSR3 and FMF on....100+FPS at 3440x1440.

[@MrJays]

Dang that's awesome!! I'm happy the game runs so smooth for you! :D

[@DamnitMan88]

Ah... Super Saiyan 3 version.

[@MrKsan05]

I'm not sure how well my computer would run this game. I have a 13700K and a RX 7900 XTX. I would think it would be a little under what you got but not sure.

[@MrJays]

Yeah that would run great! I'm pretty sure it would just be slightly under what I'm getting!

[@cybersouIs]

i got a 3070 and so far there hasnt been a game i couldnt run on ultras

[@MrJays]

I think the difference is you probably aren't trying to run games at 4K 144hz on the 3070, and then getting mad when it doesn't work, like some people are on the internet lol

[@Ser_VD]

70 degree on GPU what oven is that. How did u test 2k and 4k on ur 1080p monitor?

[@MrJays]

70C is actually not bad at all for a GPU. My 3080 would hit 85-90C. And, you can brute force your monitor to different resolutions in the Nvidia control center, using DSR factors :D

[@Ser_VD]

​@@MrJays Emm, 3080 have completely different cooling system in terms of radiator size (imagine how much ur hot spot and memory was, its about 100+), normal temps for 4090 would be like 50 or so in good case and proper fans. My 3080 from gainward chasing wind max is 60-65. so 70 for 4000 is kinda a lot ). DSR, why not native 1440P at least.... idk why ur using 4090 with 1080P monitor tho )

[@taylormay9938]

​@@Ser_VD70C is not even remotely considered "high" temp for any graphics card. Why make claims when you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about? You could literally just watch a few KZbin videos to see that you're totally clueless, in case you're just too lazy to do a tiny bit of research... 🤦😂

[@Ser_VD]

@@taylormay9938 same question for you, if u dont even understand what ur talking about.... 70C is kinda OK for 3000 series starting from 3070ti, but not for 4000 series especially for 4090 which have biggest cooling system, evaporation chamber and can give more performance with less watts. I, my self using 3080, working temps for me is 60-65 is any game and it is OK. But 70 for 4090 just a lot. Also 80C on CPU, seems like his case and its fans r just meh, coz AIO is good LS720 is the best

[@taylormay9938]

@@Ser_VD Lmao you should do a little more research. The manufacturers design CPUs and GPUs to throttle WAY below the temps that could potentially cause issues. And this is nowhere near 70C. You are talking completely out of your bum...

[@cyrilftia]

My non existent pc is ready for everthing and nothing at the same time 😂😅😢

[@GamerSpielerGermany]

So I don't have a 4090 or the game, but even if I had ray tracing off, and as far as 4k is concerned, I don't see any difference between 1080p and 4k, so I don't use it

[@spikestips6034]

you have CPU Cores 16 Max. Boost Clock Up to 4.9GHz so you need more cores higher speed and more ram? what speed ram duel slot not quad since it'll hinder speed.

[@MrJays]

It's less about more cores, and the ghz speed of each core, as well as the speed of the core itself. So a 7800x3d or a 14900k would do better because they have faster single core performance than my CPU. And new RAM would help too, but mostly CPU speed

[@tobiasherschmann2262]

But can it run Avatar???

[@zZiL341yRj736]

Setting for those that doesn't play the game, it's for photographers.

[@corto1950]

What graphic c u use

[@MrJays]

I'm not sure your question?

[@Mad5cout]

So we have games continuing to push the VRAM demands with Nivida cranking out midline GPUs with 8-12GB of VRAM on them. We are entering an era of gaming here where people are going to miss the days of SLI. You could get two RTX 4070s with a combined 24 GB of VRAM for about half the cost of a RTX 4090

[@MrJays]

Honestly, I'd love it if SLI came back, but I don't think it will. We can create more powerful single GPUs than two GPUs combined, and game devs aren't optimizing for it anymore

[@ErzbergAdventures]

I don't think any game will be as hard on a GPU as Crysis was on release!

[@albertomartin70]

How is that using 15% CPU is a CPU bottleneck while the GPU is reaching almost 90%? 🤔

[@NirvashOne]

YO why not replace the DLSS file with the 3.5 variant?

[@MrJays]

When I made the video, that wasn't an option, but I'm hearing good things about it!

[@iwaskillcam1434]

I believe my RTX 2080 Super should be able to handle this at medium settings at 1080p

[@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV]

is this game is even worth?

[@johnnytopgun6414]

Don't think this was a perfect analysis unless you plan to use Windows 11 and a 7xxx series or Intel equiv CPU to compare what the CPU & OS change affects.

[@Wirecut50]

"oh we see cpu bottleneck" meanwhile cpu sleeps xD

[@MrJays]

I have a 16 core CPU, that means CPU bottlenecks look different from an 8 core CPU. You don't need 100% usage to have a bottleneck.