After years and years, someone finally measures the watch.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Right?
@dbsll40544 жыл бұрын
@@islandwatch do you replace crowns?
@a_z.tazzzfan84974 жыл бұрын
Love that champagne dial with the 2-tone Strapcode bracelet you put on it 😉👍 As far as the green dial goes, I still prefer the original. Eyeballing the cases of the old vs new; they looked the same to me. Great call showing the non-believers they're the same 👍
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.
@Roleon19844 жыл бұрын
The two toned looks good on the white Alpinist. Kinda tempted
@aldo99234 жыл бұрын
It looks amazing wow
@mrbacchus61274 жыл бұрын
It really does, right?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
It does, thank you.
@timazbill77464 жыл бұрын
I bought the sbdc093 for that reason. It matches almost anything
@Chris-de2qc4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Now the question is if I want to pay for the new Seiko prices haha
@jaromor88084 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to measure them! I was one of the people bugging you about this. :)
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@yabakgibumpti4 жыл бұрын
Holy moly that two tone bracelet on the white dial is gorgeous!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
For sure.
@jwags244 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about the color. It looked a big darker in pictures, but I couldn't tell until you put them side by side. Great looking watches!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jared!
@BillGuy4 жыл бұрын
Mark, I just received a SBDC089 from Japan today (along with a SARX073 101/1964 😉) and the strap is smooth, black and of good quality. Not the crappy strap on the older Alpinist. I've purchased a modded Seiko from you this year and couldn't be happier. I switch from purchasing watches from Japanese websites and domestic ones like yours.
@DaneFerolin4 жыл бұрын
Darker green looks awesome
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@Csibu892 жыл бұрын
Many criticize the cyclops, i quite like it. I prefer the color of the new green one and the prospex x to the overcrowded text of the sarb017. Price ain't bad either, u can find one mint second hand for around 550usd which isn't bad.
@EscapementWatch4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Vid Mark. I did a comparison on my white alp vs the blue and found the same results. Next up swap the casebacks and crowns and see if people want to get rid of the see through will it work?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
I say 'yes'.
@AnabolicAsylum4 жыл бұрын
1:30 You can see Mark in the caseback. Hi Mark! Bought my 1st Seiko (Pepsi SKX) from you last year & I love it, thanks again! Getting an Alpinist next, love the look with the Two Tone Jubilee bracelet.
@den_525 Жыл бұрын
The Sarb017 have actually gone up in price... crazy!! Should've bought one when they were cheap.
@JermaineMarcus3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the see through case-back on the newer models could be replaced with a full metal version to slim it down a bit?
@glennpowell34444 жыл бұрын
Hiya,that two tone strap makes the watch look a million dollars! Good stuff!Cheers.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
For sure.
@Drake2k4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always Mark! Keep 'em coming!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@valueink4 жыл бұрын
The new one seems more legible. AR coated crystal?
@PhylumFile4 жыл бұрын
I like the cyclops on my Gen3 Monster :). Anywho a couple Q’s- I bought an SARB017 and an after-market butterfly deployant for the stock leather strap from you a few year’s back- Would the Seiko deployant that now ships with the new watch fit the original strap and if so is it available for purchase? I know people don’t like the original strap but I like my watches like my cars- OEM mostly. Second, dumber Q- would the new display case back screw onto the SARB017 case? if so could that be done while keeping the 20 Bar rating? I’m curious if the 6R15 in my 017 Alpinist looks the same as the 6R15Ds in my 033 and 065, or is it even more undecorated? I didn’t say I was curious enough to unscrew the case back. Did I mention great video? Thanks!
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter4 жыл бұрын
good to see a reissue, they came out with a completely different alpinist which was completely different.
@Awkwardfruitfly4 жыл бұрын
Does it have less reflections? It’s meant to have AR coating too? There’s a new alpinist coming out in the new seiko 2020 catalogue btw
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@yuanfangqian77564 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Is there a new alpinist coming after these ones? What's the color and difference between the new one and the ones shown?
@EscapementWatch4 жыл бұрын
@@yuanfangqian7756 check my lastest vid i have a pic and size of the new alpinist
@Awkwardfruitfly4 жыл бұрын
yuan fang qian it has blue grey and white I think, they don’t have the compass
@Floortile833 жыл бұрын
Is the new one noticably thicker because of the display case back? I just ordered a blue alpinist (spb197) and am worried it'll be too thick for me due to the case back.
@signordon19874 жыл бұрын
why did they discontinue the sarb017? its a masterpiece
@skullduggerysmiles83932 жыл бұрын
Thank you, a great comparison.
@secretariat-134 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, beautiful watches and they almost identical but I like the older version much better, you forgot to point out something important for me and possibly a few others and that’s the date magnifier, it’s purely subjective but that has kept me from purchasing some watches that I like, I don’t like them, to me it’s like a pimple on the crystal, the drop of water that never goes away, I know lots of watches have them including Rolex but they are not my cup of tea...nice review
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sydney_watch_fan13124 жыл бұрын
Good on you Marc. I have the Sarb017. I like the new white dial somewhat I like the new movement for the power reserve, the deployant clasp is a good upgrade, the see through case back is really very cool too. However the Cyclops over the date, which is not difficult to read at all on the old model seriously reduces my enjoyment and gives me no desire at all. It makes the dial look too busy and it was perfectly balanced before this addition this is too much and tries to make this something its not or shouldn't try to be, they also changed the font on the 20 bar so too many different fonts look unbalanced and add to the new busy look. However, the two tone bracelet will look amazing in the sun, it is a must have for me. A strap video for these would be welcomed I put mine on a NATO and on real croc leather strap with gold buckle to match the numerals and do get positive comments. Thanks again Marc well done!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, anyway!
@NPTtriumph2 жыл бұрын
I like the new models much more than the sarb017. The colors are much better (more rich) than the flat and basic looking sarb017. The cyclops is also a next level in design
@jaykenigsberg21624 жыл бұрын
Usually don’t mind a cyclops, but it just doesn’t look right on the Alpinist. IMHO.
@ElBoyoElectronico4 жыл бұрын
Jay Kenigsberg it really looks awful, also the white background on the dial makes it even worse
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Understood.
@jonnywaffles97244 жыл бұрын
first thing i thought as well
@malkinmalone4 жыл бұрын
I think most watches look nicer without a cyclops but I can’t see the date without it so its a big plus to me. Most of them are easily removed if you do not prefer to have it on there though.
@Aikaramba123 жыл бұрын
honestly after seeing it with the cyclops, the SARB looks like something is missing
@mongolian50cent3 жыл бұрын
wich one will be more valuable over time?
@miltonhernandez45414 жыл бұрын
Hi mark, thank you for making videos about wristwatches I'm a big fan. I love wristwatches since I was a kid back in the 80's especially automatic ones. I have a seiko premier ssa027 that came with a calfskin leather band, the band is torn down now. I think that if possible I will like to replace the band for a seiko jubilee bracelet its 20mm. Is there one that you could recommend?
@Samurai99014 жыл бұрын
Compared to the Presage line the Alpinist is steeper in price by a few hundred here in the UK. Is there any specific reason for that? For example is there a significant difference in quality or is the movement better etc.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
The 6R35 is commanding a premium right now.
@willidevegt88314 жыл бұрын
Does any one know if there is a difference between Seiko SBDC093 and Seiko SPB123J1 Why does Seiko use different model numbers for the same watch since it seams both are made in Japan
@bsure44 жыл бұрын
mark why isn't the compass dial crow screwdown like the watch crown?? thanks. very good reviews!!
@Floortile833 жыл бұрын
Screw down crowns are to aide water resistance. So my guess is that water getting into the compass dial won't hurt this watch.
@RedwoodAggie4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that clarification video. I got told the other day that the SARB017 was only 38mm, not 39.5 like I stated for the normal Alpinists. I ended up not responding, rather than argue over it.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
That's why I did it!
@Crooked_Clown4 жыл бұрын
I believe you missed the movements difference. The SBDC091 / SPB121 have a 6R35 caliber and the 6R15 caliber in the SARB017 (AKA: the old one).
@chrisb59864 жыл бұрын
The old one FTW. I would like that dual tone Angus-J when they make more of them.
@timothybracken17284 жыл бұрын
why do you like the old one?
@chrisb59864 жыл бұрын
@@timothybracken1728 No cyclops. No ludicrous price. They can still be had for $400-500.
@timothybracken17284 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb5986 sorry im new to watches but what is cyclops ?
@chrisb59864 жыл бұрын
@@timothybracken1728 The magnifier over the date. It is frequently a polarizing design element.
@timothybracken17284 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb5986 oh yeah i dont like that cyclops.. it throws the whole look off for me as well.
@Штырь-щ9л3 жыл бұрын
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@MrBlizzard7693 жыл бұрын
Got the two tone strap code for my alpinist from you guys , it’s amazing
@brickcastle3 жыл бұрын
the green on the sarb017 just pops more... love it! Great Comparison
@yagopellegrini19764 жыл бұрын
Hi, I got a Seiko Alpinist, that's a red Alpinist 4S15 - 6000, but the crown was teared apart from the stem, I would like to know where can I buy new pieces for it, or at least another pieces from a different model that can match with my wacth. I'll be thankful if you can help me.
@fletchoid4 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the older model, especially the white one. The cyclops on the newer model bugs my OCD for reasons I can't quite express. That being said, I would love to have any of these, but for the price. I just can't justify it. Of course, that is probably because I have blown so much on my collection lately.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking the video out.
@Sean28844 жыл бұрын
You don't have OCD.
@bronco11994 жыл бұрын
Wow, now I really want a two tone bracelet on the green or cream alpinist. Haven't really been drawn to these watches until I saw that two tone strap. Thanks Mark, more debt coming my way lol
@glennpowell34444 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed,I,m getting the two tone vibe myself! Cheers!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
LOL, good luck!
@madanotsob4 жыл бұрын
That cream dial on that bracelet is stunning
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@BojanBojovic3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is which one to choose.
@Watch4Me4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I really needed this video. I just received my 2020 Alpinist and am not impressed at all with the strap. I want to add a strapcode.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
They fit!
@gadogadojawa41904 жыл бұрын
It's ok with cyclops, reminds me with 1995 red alpinist.
@karamelahi28084 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. Thanks!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Bob.martens4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the 6R35 movement has less childhood diseases than the 6R15. Also it is very reassuring to see Seiko still offers their traditionally sub-par straps even with increased price.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out, Bob.
@thanhln3694 жыл бұрын
And thinkness? Are they the same?
@walterlee47964 жыл бұрын
Hey noticed something, one watch had the buckle end at 12 the other at 6, I always put mine at 12 just curious any preference 🤷🏾♂️?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
That's just the way Seiko does it.
@matefurlan864 жыл бұрын
Hi, that new spb121 should be my first better watch. I got in love with the sarb017 but its difficualt to find it here in Croatia. Should I buy new Alpinist or something else?
@matefurlan863 жыл бұрын
@_- thank you sir i already bought new one for 500$
@blackhole68343 жыл бұрын
@@matefurlan86 gde si našao alpinistu novog za 500?
@matefurlan863 жыл бұрын
@@blackhole6834 montre trgovina, glavni zastupnik za seiko u hr, dobio sam velikodušni popust.
@blackhole68343 жыл бұрын
@@matefurlan86 kod nas u Srbiji je Vitanov zastupnik i oni mi daju popust gde ispadne sat oko 600 i nešto. Jesi ti zadovoljan? Još se razmišljam da li da kupim.
@matefurlan863 жыл бұрын
@@blackhole6834 i to je ok cijena po meni, sat je predivan i izvrsnog mehanizma. Prijatelj je kupio nedavno Oris za 850 eura, ne može prismrdit Alpinsitu novom po ničemu. Ja sam zadovoljan.
@bryanguest28072 жыл бұрын
This watch has a compass on its face. It appears (I wouldnt know for sure despite watching numerous reviews solely dedicated to this watch) it has a seperate button solely for the compass. No other analog watch I know of has a compass. Obviously being a field watch and a person who does light hiking a compass is nice, in fact it is the sole reason I am interested on this watch. Why is this feature always ignored?
@lelok09584 жыл бұрын
Hi mark, ur sqaule gmt black bezel 40mm is back on stock but the hands are back to mercedez hands??
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@lelok09584 жыл бұрын
@@islandwatch kinda sad,i prefer the original squale hands way better
@DutchClawz4 жыл бұрын
What bracelet was the jubilee?
@georgesimeone62924 жыл бұрын
The numbers on the new dial look larger and brighter gold.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
They do.
@fteambjj3 жыл бұрын
Im confused... should i get another sarb017 in case i start to scratch mine and or break it and trying very hard to find it again. Or buy the new champaign version..... anyone have some ideas ?
@wakawaka19764 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the price? How much are each of these watches?
@Bob.martens4 жыл бұрын
The different shade of green on the dial is due to the AR-coating. I replaced the flat, no AR OEM crystal on my SARB017 with a domed crystal with AR, and it changed the color completely. Looks much better, deeper. Take a look at the dials side-by-side from 0:30 on. It really is that dramatic in real life too.
@Awkwardfruitfly4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Does the AR make a big difference day to day?
@Bob.martens4 жыл бұрын
@@Awkwardfruitfly Honestly: not really:) The switch from flat to domed makes more of a difference. It's not like I had legibility-issues with the original, just found the flatness a little boring. One(under)-sided tinted AR diminishes a lot of reflections from most angles, but also adds some (in my case nicely hued) 'artefacts' from others. Omega coats their crystals on both sides, and that virtually eliminates all reflections, but the coating on the outside will scratch over time. I replaced the Hardlex on my Samurai and Turtle (both 2018 STO) with a flat Clearcoat-AR sapphire, and that is amazing. No hue, and when viewed straight on, it's like you can touch the dial.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Awkwardfruitfly4 жыл бұрын
Bob Martens thanks mate
@fraggler4 жыл бұрын
Which crystal did you go with?
@roadtripmovies10874 жыл бұрын
Great vid, i own the earlier green 6R15, and wear it on a black nato with gold hardware which looks great,... but managed to ding the bezel which is easy to do. Anyways, you forgot to mention the dial on the last black face one is quite different to the other three. no arabics. no reference to the rolex explorer, which is essentially alpinist. I am afraid Seiko messed up that black dial.
@silentshadow76254 жыл бұрын
Silly question, but could you use the compass as a 60 minute timer? If you clock the north to the minute hand?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
I guess, but there would be a whole bunch of converting in your head.
@Wolf_K4 жыл бұрын
I really like the original but never bought one as they’re a wee bit small for my 8” wrist.
@walterlee47964 жыл бұрын
Wolf H me too but the black one with bracelet is kinda tempting
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@DK4Code4 жыл бұрын
Try it guys, get the white dial so it looks wee bit bigger
@Jpjc4744 жыл бұрын
You made me want a new one even more.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@Jpjc4744 жыл бұрын
Long Island Watch not cool for my bank balance 😝
@JalilDr4 жыл бұрын
hey where did you get the metal bracelet from? thx
@lp25654 жыл бұрын
Where can one purchase the two tone strap? Nice!
@Sohnifaulk4 жыл бұрын
Can you get the clear case back for the old one?
@saleendriver4 жыл бұрын
Good info Marc. I'm not a candidate for this Alpinist, but still a well done video.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@lowersaxon4 жыл бұрын
You should perhaps buy a digital one for measurement. See TGV‘s.
@ryanjenkins6899 Жыл бұрын
Will it also fit the spb243 or spb249
@oraclebox4 жыл бұрын
Collect your SARB017 and don't sell it, that's the last classic.
@bluesky53843 жыл бұрын
I’ve had one since 2017 and never wear it. I think I’ll take your advice though.
@matteusmag4 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know when the new Alpinist without the compass shown in the new Seiko catalog will be released?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@pierrearagon3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but perhaps someone can still answer my question: since the cases may be the same architecture between the old and new model, can the case backs be swapped? I all because I don’t care about the display case back and would like a slightly thinner watch even if it’s only 1-2mm.
@Yos1153 жыл бұрын
I just did a quick Google for you and someone said it does apparently :)
@DavidDatura4 жыл бұрын
The older watch looks nicer without the silly cyclops and has a nicer shade of green sunburst on the dial.
@rameshmaharjan2057Ай бұрын
hello sir i wanna know the thread for crown of sarb017 and spb121
@willidevegt88314 жыл бұрын
The title of this movie is called "Your Questions Answered-Seiko Alpinist 2020" but looks like no one want to answer my question
@kfkwAL72 ай бұрын
Can anyone help. The strap with clasp is awful. Painful in fact. The clasp folds my skin under it. It’s like the clasp is in the wrong place.
@stevek88294 жыл бұрын
I can see the date on the left. That is a larger consideration to the reading glasses crowd than the under 40's realize. It's certainly more practical than adding compass roses to the bezel. Seriously that is useless. You find south with the hour hand and the 12. Then what? Do you turn the bezel to align all the other bearings, and then walk around holding the watch in while trying not to turn it. In the alps you're going to be stuck on trails anyway and only needing general directions. I'd rather have the St. Bernard with the brandy. They do look great though, maybe someday.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
I think it's more for show than anything.
@MrMaltesumpf4 жыл бұрын
Do you not have them in stock?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
We do not sell them.
@Raushandefrost2 жыл бұрын
guys, anyone know SPB245 is coating with diashield or not?
@timlevy18573 жыл бұрын
why does no one ever show the compass working?
@ConvoyGTR4 жыл бұрын
I think the old Alpinist looks better in every way
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching.
@Johnydanerous4 жыл бұрын
Did you know the dial is stamped!
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Nope. Sounds right, though.
@discingaround4 жыл бұрын
Wink if you know about the new, smaller Alpine SPB line of watches. Thumbs up if you're going to carry them. PLEASE!!!
@tamirobo4 жыл бұрын
Signed crown?
@vijayponramu93933 жыл бұрын
hold on to your 6r15 alpinists...
@airilomar64 жыл бұрын
Seiko just dont care and ignore on the amount of hate at the fake padded croc strap. They should have discontinue that strap not the sarb017.
@NickoBhisma3 жыл бұрын
Display case back is a turn off for me :( Although 6r35 is really tempting.
@Yos1153 жыл бұрын
Is that because it's thicker?
@SandeepTuladhar4 жыл бұрын
You just scratched brandnew watches with those sharp callipers
@syltkaka98164 жыл бұрын
The callipers are plastic
@ytown44 жыл бұрын
Does the bezel crown screw in?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
No, it is free to rotate.
@TopSecretVid4 жыл бұрын
Strap / bracelet options video???
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
I think 2 vids on the topic is enough.
@rockysrider53524 жыл бұрын
the straps are on wrong on the new version.... thats different....
@ketanpawskar12674 жыл бұрын
#sarb017 still best 🤜🏻
@bjornapyro4 жыл бұрын
I really love the deeper new green look but would not buy it just because of that damn cyclops. Not sure why everyone thinks they need one of those.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bjorn.
@mrbacchus61274 жыл бұрын
Oh no you said the J word. Look out for Rolex hitman lawyers.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
shhhhh, don't tell anyone.
@cdb50014 жыл бұрын
What did I miss? What's the J word?
@mrbacchus61274 жыл бұрын
@@cdb5001 J is for Jubilee bracelet. Rolex doesnt like when you say oyster bracelet and jubilee bracelet. All the strapcode bracelet names on Marc's site had to be changed at one time.
@cdb50014 жыл бұрын
@@mrbacchus6127 Ah, I thought that might be it, but was unaware as to why. It's a gorgeous strap. Thanks for the info.
@MrRCalden4 жыл бұрын
SO are you selling these...
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
absolutely not ;)
@woodsmansfinest38144 жыл бұрын
So they took an amazing looking watch and made it look lesser... Just my opinion... Can't stand the cyclops and especially with white date. Caseback nice. Green also less beautiful.
@highpoints19834 жыл бұрын
Sarb017 is better! I would perfer that over the new features. The older model is a classier watch.
@NisokiesNafokies4 жыл бұрын
I hate the cyclop as well as X logo on the dial. Old version looks much better.
@adrianmorris37724 жыл бұрын
Must admit ,Marc ,I do like the new version. Don't like the jubilee.......oooops j.!!!!!! 😆😺
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
Watch yourself Mr!
@anthoniusalphaproject15884 жыл бұрын
Does anyone knows how to really use that compass accurately?!?!?
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
You have to align it with north/south first, using the sun.
@phillipbecker15233 жыл бұрын
The owners manual tells you how to use it but it is only “accurate “ in the northern hemisphere at higher latitudes.
@riffraff90004 жыл бұрын
I liked the old one. This one, not so much. Especially at that price. I have a bunch of Seikos, but I'll by a micro-band over this new "Alpinist."
@Star_Sn1per4 жыл бұрын
Sarb017 FTW!!
@Bob.martens4 жыл бұрын
No mention of Alpinist anywhere on the new one: it's a Prospex now...
@Star_Sn1per4 жыл бұрын
@@Bob.martens Not to mention that unsigned crown and see thru case back that makes it look even cheaper.
@islandwatch4 жыл бұрын
many feel that way
@speedypaul23144 жыл бұрын
The gold numerals on the dial are brighter on the new one or a little clearer.