Your Robotaxi Is Here, But Can You Trust It?

[@MichaelGilmoreTV]

I’ve been living in Los Angeles for 3 years now, and I never knew this car was “driverless” until recently. I was parked next to it and never looked at the driver,minding my own damn business. This car really drives good in LA. Recently, I saw people inside on the passenger side👀👍🏿.

[@KamBar2020]

Never Say NEVER 😎 Justin Bieber

[@jess..c]

They just started piloting this summer in LA, last decade was only in SF. Tried it in SF it was pretty cool! Very comfortable, no one will slam on the break lol. Austin and Phoenix has it piloting too.

[@MichaelGilmoreTV]

@@KamBar2020 👍🏿

[@MichaelGilmoreTV]

@@jess..c 👍🏿. I know for 3 years I’ve been seeing this car. I always thought someone was driving. I was shocked when I saw someone on the passenger side and no one driving. That’s when I became nosey 👀.

[@serendipity-108]

@@jess..cIt actually has been in testing in LA for longer than that. I have been riding it for over a year here

[@neilmurphy4178]

On April 18th, 2023 I took my first Waymo autonomous self driving taxi ride and I now use it every week. With forty rides and 187 miles, I feel completely safe and comfortable using Waymo. The most dangerous thing about riding in a car is the human driver and Waymo eliminates wreckless driving, impaired driving, road rage driving, distracted driving, speeding etc. My math suggests this reduces the danger of riding in a car by some 80%.

[@ocampbell1954]

I trust those cars more than humans. Between alcohol and our obsession with our phones I can say it's time.

[@noway8233]

Lets count the bodies

[@Misaka-gt5yj]

And sleep deprivation too, about as bad as being drunk if not worse. Humans are not to be trusted. Car accidents happen far more often with people anyways

[@Alexander_S18]

@@noway8233 yeah lets do and lets stick to the facts please

[@KamBar2020]

Hold Ya FARD 🤯

[@bobagowoof]

Then you are a fool. Look at the data.

[@Ariolander]

Picture in your mind how bad the "average" driver is. Now realize approx. 50% of drivers are worse than that. If a robotaxi is safer than your "average" driver then it will already save lives.

[@Matys1975]

Safer than 50% of drivers but in what driving conditions? How would robotaxis deal with anomalies on the road or ice and snow patches ?

[@mamanitubea]

How about suspending all human drivers whenever a human driver makes a stupid mistake? That would be fair

[@DaretoExplore]

Getting drunk, high and stolen car drivers to use FSD would save lives, but those are the last people who will use it.

[@cosmefulanito7510]

​@@DaretoExplore I want to drive my car whenever i want. FSD is a great advantage but is a danger in the long time.

[@chihchang1139]

the average driver is really very good actually. Everyone is licensed and there are tons of cops everywhere. the best ai driver currently drives at 13 year old level

[@ForwardThinkingIncome]

We used Waymo in Scottsdale Arizona for our designated driver. Absolutely loved it. Safer than driving after drinking and cheaper than Uber. I will definitely do it again. Also there was road construction on our way back and Waymo impressed us a lot how it navigated around the area with cones and dirt covering where the road was. People should try it before hating it.

[@SteveninTune]

Waymo loves you 😮

[@buergidunitz]

Safer than drink driving? They shuold put that on the billboards...

[@ForwardThinkingIncome]

@@buergidunitz lol, very true

[@nonamewillbegiven2412]

​@@ForwardThinkingIncomeyeah right

[@Zecr]

"I believe that the elevator should be operated by a human!"

[@ricomajestic]

Said no one ever except the elevator boy.

[@ISpitHotFiyaa]

An elevator is a much simpler thing to automate though.

[@eltigre5785]

@@ISpitHotFiyaa ikr this stupid ass take that elon and this guy made, its so irrelevant to self driving cars

[@jonnelson9760]

Elevators have a confined track sort of like automating a train.

[@mikeohawk95]

Even the vehcukes,a dn the bus,plane,hyoerloop,trains of all models,etc

[@RaymondKThompson]

I love Waymo. Felt safe the whole time. I wish they were everywhere.

[@gees97]

That’s where Tesla is winning. Yeah it’s taking long to launch but every single Tesla on the road is gathering data for Elon and the team.

[@violety_indigo52]

Hahahahhahahahah​@@gees97

[@Retired.at.40.Bored.at.50]

Waymo will never go wide release.

[@Literallyandfiguratively]

@@violety_indigo52 🙃🤣🙃

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Wish I could try it... but.. living in Europe...

[@user-yg1dg6xm2g]

Driverless cars may be statistically safer, but they shouldn't just be slightly safer-they should be dramatically safer.

[@VENEZIO-u8d]

Love waymo. I hate human drivers. No interaction needed. Just pay and go. No tips

[@travwill]

Have current Tesla Full Self Driving, as 12.5.4 as of last week. It needs a good 5+ interventions to prevent crashes in my 15 mile/20 minute pretty basic drive into our town. Definitely not ready for driverless yet in that state.

[@cauchy911]

You must be cursed if you intervened every 3 miles.

[@MrStrife622]

Yeah there is no video evidence of anyone on 12 having that issue..

[@SportNut1]

Is it ready for just hightway? Can I drive to the ramp then let it do the rest starting from merging into the highway?

[@rioriggs3568]

In average, Tesla is at 70 miles between critical disengagements while Waymo is at 17,000. It will take Tesla centuries to solve FSD at the current pace.

[@cauchy911]

@@SportNut1 local and highway, even some unmarked roads on the map

[@ZeeengMicro]

It's all well and good until they make you watch 3 minute unskippable ad just to open the door

[@aheedibrahim800]

This cracked me up 🤣

[@buergidunitz]

George Orwell said the future would just be a boot stamping on a human face forever; obviously he never thought of this.

[@ndychung007]

There are people watch ad supported KZbin. Crazy /s

[@phillyphil1513]

Q: Your Robotaxi Is Here, But Can You Trust It? A: Waymo...? yes. Tesla FSD...? no. "okay next question please..."

[@daydreamer8373]

Wow what a simplistic summary. There is a way bigger picture and if you look at it, FSD has some huge advantages over the competition. a fact some people seem to miss.

[@ibuyufo]

@@daydreamer8373 Like what? FSD is camera based compared to a full suite of lidar and other sensors in the Waymo. Leon Musked all the useful sensors to make more money for the investors. I still would never let FSD do my job driving in complex situations. I would be fine with open highway.

[@daydreamer8373]

@@ibuyufo FSD is proving Lidar is not needed. Over 14 million miles a day is now driven by FSD, and it's rate of improvement is clear for everyone to see. Most people have no idea just how good FSD is getting. Tesla has never used Lidar, and Radar was removed because of clashes with vision, with ultimately vision being proved correct. As I said in my earlier comment, FSD has some huge advantages over the competition.

[@phillyphil1513]

@@daydreamer8373 re: "There is a way bigger picture and if you look at it". exactly, and that "bigger picture" is one painted with a broad brush DIPPED IN BULLSH!T, naturally those "baby young to the world" and lacking any significant life experience will always struggle to differentiate between that which is truth, and that which is bullsh!t. re: "There is a way bigger picture and if you look at it..." advantages that are only good for WIPING YOUR A$$ without ever applying for a permit from the Feds. re: "a fact some people seem to miss." no worries, this tracks with the conspicuously MISSING PERMIT.

[@lucx]

Those 14 million miles of FSD required a human behind the wheel. Tesla hasn’t been in the same league as Waymo, technology wise, nor trust wise.

[@goldstandardaviation1667]

They said the same thing about the "horseless carriages" back in the day.

[@sarkaranish]

no one is saying autonomous isn't gonna happen, it's a matter of who's gonna do it. I don't think Tesla will do it as they have low quality cameras and no radar or lidar sensors as backups. Waymo operates in difficult areas like san fran which has tons of pedestrians and tricky streets. Waymo can scale up to easier streets, but Tesla has to scale up their tech in order to go FSD.

[@hermanjohnson9180]

​@@sarkaranish In good time I think they will reach their goals. But whoever thinks that people who can actually afford their own automobiles are going to opt for these robotaxis are out of their minds.

[@sarkaranish]

@@hermanjohnson9180 that's completely true. But will Tesla really sell these vehicles to people if they can make more money selling a car subscription?

[@jooberly2611]

Love using Waymo multiple times each week.

[@LetomDeCambrai]

I love how you taking people’s job 😋

[@Alexander_S18]

@@LetomDeCambrai ... I bet you can't afford your lifestyle without automation everywhere

[@danielgomezmeneses6989]

​@@LetomDeCambrailet's get back wagongs and horses!! Those metallic engines are taking all our jobs 😂😂😂 nobody thinks in the poor horse poo collector 😂😂😂

[@flemmingsorensen5470]

Consider the age of the people they asked for opinions.... and the fact that life and death trials are made on public roads...

[@MagdaleneM-f3q]

Bring Julianne Iwersen Niemann on the show. She changed my life Financially I managed to grow a nest egg of around 120k to over a Million. I'm especially grateful to Julianne Iwersen Niemann, for her expertise and exposure to different areas of the market.

[@YadaniL-g8k]

I’ve heard of her How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?

[@KentBrono]

⁠ her name is 'JULIANNE IWERSEN NIEMANN'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

[@YadaniL-g8k]

I appreciate this. After curiously searching her name online and reviewing her credentials, I'm quite impressed. I've contacted her as I could use all the help I can get

[@BaffySchenck]

The thing is people often doubt the prospects of financial advisors like Julianne Iwersen Niemann in business/markets today. Well it gives me more time to get ahead while they stew in their own pity and doubts as they childishly complain about those spreading the word

[@Breakfasttime630]

Pass

[@Cier433]

I think the way forward is for Waymo to use the necessary sensors and achieve full autonomy. Then gradually remove sensors until only radar and cameras are left, but that would be in the future when the technology is already very developed.

[@XxXenosxX]

Waymo>Tesla. Sensors win

[@daydreamer8373]

Not from what I am seeing.

[@colechapman6976]

It drives way better than anyone in New Jersey that's for sure

[@LamboV12]

I’ve ridden in waymo. It’s drives perfectly, a lot better than your average Uber driver

[@kifley19]

How will the car listen to police directing traffic or if there's a road block/closure.

[@Alexander_S18]

by learning from what humans did in similar situation (tesla) or by people coding each situation (waymo)

[@Eoin-B]

Waymo has that figured out for a couple years. Look into some videos of how it solves what people are doing and how it makes decisions because of it. It's pretty interesting. The big thing is letting companies who use cameras, lidar and radar see the world around them (the ugly vehicles) vs companies who just use low-angle cameras and think they are just as good and should be also on the road.

[@violety_indigo52]

Waymo understands the hand signals of police officers.

[@SteveninTune]

Bow down to the car. The car knows everything

[@SteveninTune]

@@kifley19 that's what SAMs are for

[@Awesome_Aasim]

The problem isn't that self driving cars won't cut down on fatalities; they will. They will not solve the problem of decades of car dependency and exclusionary zoning and lack of connectivity and poor public transit and so much more. By the way, we have had driverless trains for far longer than driverless cars. Montreal's REM has no driver. BART trains can in theory operate without any driver under ATC and now ATO. Also having thousands of self-driving cars opens up our infrastructure to devastating cyberattacks.

[@a-don13]

driverless cars are essentially public transit. lack of connectivity?

[@Awesome_Aasim]

@@a-don13 When we think of public transport we usually don't think about private taxi-hailing services. No, public transit does not need to be publicly owned, but it does need to be for public benefit. The same self driving technology if applied on buses would makes buses far more efficient and allow increased capacity on bus lines, as opposed to cars that take up a lot of street space while only carrying up to 5 people at a time.

[@Awesome_Aasim]

And no, I am not saying self-driving taxis don't have their place; as paratransit it can supplement public transit by solving the last mile problem for a lot of individuals with disabilities. But if everyone were to use it, the roads would be back to the same level of congestion, just with cars that drive themselves rather than human drivers.

[@faustinpippin9208]

But People dont want to live right next to a loud bar etc And People dont want to live in shoebox apartament And People dont want to Suflera in public transit When will you People finally understand that car dependecy is what normal People want And need Noone has time to waste for your virtuesignaling

[@Awesome_Aasim]

@@faustinpippin9208 Suburbs and single family homes have existed forever. What hasn't existed was car dependency. By the way, the reason there are only high rise apartments and single family homes is that it is illegal to build anything else. Japanese cities also have single family homes, but they are nowhere as big as in the US or Australia because US cities set ridiculous things like minimum lot sizes and the like.

[@williamjulien5858]

A Cruse did NOT strike a pedestrian. A human driven car (hit and run of course) struck the pedestrian and knocked them down and under the Cruse.

[@daydreamer8373]

Then Cruise lied about the car driving over him.

[@nguyep4]

Crusie hid the fact that it dragged the pedestrian underneath from investigators. Had they been honest, the problem wouldn't have been as severed.

[@danielyoon3313]

My concern is taxis like Waymo being physically cordoned off by people with ill intent and the car being unable to respond proactively. What comes to mind is the car that was stuck in traffic and people simply came over and spray painted over the car.

[@Nainara32]

Autonomous vehicles are not going to work in lawless countries where you can't have nice things. I mean, unless you arm the vehicles with autonomous weapons too, which is an interesting idea.

[@danielyoon3313]

@@Nainara32 its not lawless, its just hard to enforce. Without an actual person present, there really is no active deterrent.

[@TourDeR6]

There were already a few cases of vandalism while there were passengers inside unfortunately.

[@Kay0Bot]

The waymo are good drivers. They are about a driver that is 65 years old. Definitely better than anyone age 15-22.

[@chuckhiggins4940]

Yes, it's largely an image issue. I rode in one of these in SF, and it was incredibly smooth. The data already shows that statistically they are more safe than human drivers, far more safe in fact. You don't have to tip them, they don't get distracted, and you don't have to deal with the eccentricities of human drivers (personality, driving habits, etc). Once people see the actual utility of these vehicles, and the tech continues to be perfected, they will all but inevitably take over the rideshare space in due time.

[@xlukyn]

I’m a hotel manager. When Uber first started, traditional travelers were very skeptical. Now, it is a preferred choice over standard taxi. It’s just a matter of time.

[@johnsunar1259]

lol... that pun in the end 💀 "that future, it's pulling up to your door"

[@sohu86x]

If the data is there (robotaxi safer than human taxi drivers) and insurance is worked out, it would be foolish to prefer human taxi drivers.

[@darinherrick9224]

It's pretty much inevitable. As these are used more and more the accidents will just drop and drop. Especially as they start rezoning cities to get rid of parking and roads and just have slow rondels for robotaxis to drop off and pick up people. that's a huge deal. Once robotaxis are widespread there are no need for parking lots anymore.

[@serendipity-108]

We’ve had these for over a year in LA & SF. I have had NO issues with these, whereas I’ve had Uber drivers literally get lost or watch youtube while driving. I will pay a premium to not have a human driver.

[@Tomasz.Abrahamer]

Every reporter sometimes reports something that later turns out to be untrue. Let's say 1 in 100 cases. But you? Every second sentence is wrong!

[@shazmosushi]

Waymo in some areas in San Francisco can be incredibly slow to arrive. They can be overly conservative for taking left turns, especially on San Franciscos multi-lane one-way streets, and during peak traffic may not get into the lane they need to, especially since few human drivers ever leave from for empty Waymo that's indicating. I once waited 20 minutes for a Waymo less than a mile away. It eventually rerouted itself taking a much worse route. That ride also had a remote human take over when Waymo could manage somebody waiting for the Waymo to leave so it could reverse into a parking spot. Most of this could be fixed by other drivers courteously yielding to even empty Waymo changing lanes or turning onto a street like they would to another human driver. But in general the rides are fantastic and incredibly safe, especially routes well services by traffic signals that don't need Waymo to drive aggressively. Looking forward to Waymo on freeways, and the real killer app: taking Waymo to and from San Francisco airport.

[@AznPrzsn]

The solution is to have Only self-driving cars on the road honestly. Then they communicate with each other and they can function as seamlessly as a computer handling video rendering tasks.

[@A-A-Ron_FTW]

Taking Waymos to/from PHX airport has been a game changer!! I will never use Uber for this service again. Just can't wait for them to be approved for freeways here!! 🤞

[@A-A-Ron_FTW]

​@AznPrzsn i agree. In urban environments, 100% driverless is the way to go. It would be WORLDS safer for everyone involved

[@OU81TWO]

Adding highway speeds to the mix is going to be a huge problem.

[@AznPrzsn]

@@OU81TWO But why? Teslas already drive at highway speeds just fine around other cars.... unless you're talking about highway speeds on local roads that have 35mph speed limits then yes, that does scare the car at times.

[@Joelconway34]

My main concern is how to survive all of these financial and political crisis, especially in light of the US political power scuffle. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance!!!.

[@KuramaUchiha-id1ow]

I began investing in stocks and Def earlier this year, and it is the best choice l've ever made. My portfolio is rounding up to almost a million and I have realized that when a stock makes it to the news, chances are you're quite late to the party, the idea is to get in early on blue chips before it becomes public. There are lots of life changing opportunities in the market, and maximize it.

[@Joelconway34]

Impressive! Been trying to trade on my own for a while now, but it isn't going well. few months ago I lost about $8,500 in the trade. Can you please at least advise me on what to do?

[@KuramaUchiha-id1ow]

You can make a lot of money from the market regardless of whether it strengthens or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

[@Joelconway34]

I would really like to know how this actually works.

[@amalmberg13]

Investing can be a powerful tool for building wealth and securing financial stability especially in this hard time. but it’s important to understand that it’s not without its challenges. The investment landscape is inherently volatile, with periods of both gains and losses. This variability is a natural part of investing and requires a clear strategy and patience to navigate effectively.

[@praveenferna]

As a woman you’ll actually be one of the first to be replaced by AI in the workplace according to statistics. So good luck with that.

[@KJJ782]

It’s interesting how California dmv suspended a company with driverless cars, 🚘 when more human occupied drivers have thousands of crashes a month in California

[@creolenola]

I watched these cars this summer in San Fran, and it was nice...astounding. I even rode in one. Very nice...

[@FutureDreamZz]

That’s so dope

[@SUDHEERREDDYNARRA]

Nice way of trolling tesla😂😂

[@tpop3723]

As someone who struggles with adhd I found the presenter reminding me of how I was in my early school years.

[@littlebrit]

I would not trust it as a daily drive. I would take it once as a novelty, but to go to work or to the airport I would take a normal taxi.

[@camnova]

Waymo is absolutely incredible. Way safer than most Uber drivers I’ve ridden with.

[@kennethdavis4987]

Thank you for calling out Elon Musk on his unreliable forecasts. I own a Tesla Model 3 with”FSD” capability. I rarely put my car in FSD mode any more because it makes poor choices so often that it is easier and less frustrating to just drive it myself. When I do use FSD, I have to intervene multiple times, even within a mile of my own home. A route the car should know well. I would not trust anything you see on Oct 10th Elon Musk or Tesla. It’s a shame because AutoSteer is very good - not perfect but good and the car itself is very comfortable to drive and extremely reliable.

[@James-cq9dp]

i also have a tesla with FSD and it drives amazingly. i can literally engage it anywhere. they recently released summon which allows my tesla to pick me up from the front of a store.. ive used it multiple times and it has worked perfectly. i have no idea what you are talking about

[@x0Kamix0x]

It’s crazy how Americans are so adverse to change and innovation. Whenever I take an Uber with a human driver, I always cross my fingers that I don’t have an aggressive driver. I’d much rather an autonomous vehicle driving me places.

[@jess..c]

Not only knowing your driver won't harass you, won't drive& text and hopping phones for pick up next rider, plus no driver will smoke in the car, lifesaving for allergy person! Honestly most annoying part is the small chat they trying get to know you, it is so uncomfortable.

[@KamBar2020]

Who's Ya DIDDY ❓

[@b21raider27]

Tesla only has camera’s. Good luck.

[@kaym7704]

With low resolution.

[@daydreamer8373]

And is doing amazing things with those camera's. Most people have no idea just how good FSD is getting, and it will only get better.

[@Alexander_S18]

@@kaym7704 a system that only looks at Full HD sees more than you could ever see because it has a 360° view and 100% of the pixels in its mind

[@williamkae-ge3kh]

@@Alexander_S18 good luck seeing in the rain, or children playing below the cameras

[@WillieFungo]

​@@williamkae-ge3khSacrifices will be made in the name of progress 🙏

[@matt-lang]

This is a great investigative piece. I love what Tesla has done for the EV market and improved driver assist systems, but they are not the future of self-driving unless they transition from their camera-only approach.

[@jommeecomedian1073]

Teslas FSD is nowhere ready , it’s at 90% still need more work, it is still entering closed express lanes!

[@weho_brian]

lol it missed some of my exits, i could not trust it 100%. what will happen when the data is not up to date and there is construction on the freeway for example?

[@robertboudreau8935]

@@weho_brian- It does not work that way. It reads the signs and signals and terrain. It does not rely on a pre-mapped road it is downloading from the internet. That’s how Waymo works and why Waymo can’t work outside its pre mapped area.

[@weho_brian]

@@robertboudreau8935 if you drive around los angeles freeways, you would know that the freeway itineraries are always changing. The lanes are not very clearly marked and several freeway exits and entryways are poorly designed. These were roads that were designed 50-70 years ago and did not account for all the overpopulation and bad driving that we have today. I am telling you for one of my exits, FSD completely misses it drives me straight towards a ditch, I am not going to FAFO. You can say well this is a problem with infrastructure, well that is just the world that we live in.

[@iskalasrinivas5640]

its useless the first lesson that they teach in computer vision is never to trust a camera. Musk blindly ignores it😂

[@Justwatchpro]

@@weho_brian HOV lanes should become ADAS lanes as well. People need to chill when they are driving 30+ minutes until they get a reminder that their exit is coming, hopefully this technology is the norm for all car brands by end of the decade.

[@marcusjosephfilm]

10 years ago: "I WANT THIS" Now: "I don't trust what I wanted"

[@ra1dzt]

Once upon a time, people were afraid to use the elevator, so there were special people who opened and closed the doors, pressed the buttons and were generally there to make people feel comfortable, but over time everyone got used to it and there are no longer people in the elevators who press the buttons for us. It will be the same with robo cars, people just have to get used to it, and the technology will improve.

[@doujinflip]

Elevators have 1D movement on exclusive tracks specifically designed around its cab. Having that same comfortably reliable service in the chaos of public streets is infinitely more complex short of practically banning use of the roads for anything other than self-driving vehicles with similar enough traffic negotiation algorithms.

[@AureusApps]

Tesla FSD is getting better and better

[@no_name5002]

Build rails, biking infrastracture, and walkable neighborhoods through mixed use zoning. Americans will just do about anything but move away from car-dependency.

[@spartan662501]

It's ridiculous. The power of the auto industry is nauseating

[@arpitjain2591]

I agree, but this is safer than what we have now, which is an improvement.

[@solarrockstar]

@@no_name5002 disagree vehemently. How future gta games be played then? Walking biking shooting and no cars?

[@WorldIsWierd]

Because they dont make sense for america. I dont get how people dont understand that all technology shouldn't work for every community. That europe issue. They keep trying to apply american tech to europe and it doesnt work. We dont have the same issues

[@NicksDynasty]

I'm all for this!! Also being able to subscribe to a car service rather than everyone owning a personal car will help convert people who just like getting around by car

[@SamsonOhsem]

Will trust it if it's so efficient, low cost and can reduce congested roadway

[@serge3333]

Drivers wages at uber and lift historically decreased. Not increased. Think what you’re saying

[@WillieFungo]

I think she is saying get another job

[@drugoviic]

As a software engineer, I believe they can be safer than humans since they learn from their mistakes. However, I still prefer using a cab with a driver because they need to make a living as well.

[@galexymitzelplik9560]

These "22 million driverless miles" are on preprogrammed and selected routes, run over and over again. Theyre not "pulling into driveways" looking for passengers in apartment complexes, entering gate codes or driving to your grandma's house on a dirt road.

[@krisloveart]

Why is it going into your driveway when it can just pull up to the street? Why can’t the person in the apartment pin a pick up location? Wouldn’t you just meet your car outside your gate, then when you get home enter it? And how do you know their routes don’t go on dirt? Lmao, stop bro.

[@noelsonkwa]

Ok, give till version 3.0… in 2 years.

[@darinherrick9224]

The truth is that 99% of the time pulling into driveways, entering gates, etc, simply isn't needed. I meet my driver at the street, they don't take the elevator up to my apartment on the fourth floor.

[@ibuyufo]

I trust them more than human/Uber/Lyft/Taxis.

[@OCJoker2009]

As someone that's visually impaired this is very exciting I'm so excited for self-driving cars so I can finally have my own car or at least commute more easily without having to take a bus anymore

[@clow-reed]

Serious question, why is Uber not a good option?

[@OCJoker2009]

I do not live in an area Uber is serviced by human drivers

[@diidac17]

You will keep using the bus in the future, but it will be autonomous!! 😊

[@AndersonTay-km4kd]

Passengers just sit on the driver seat… relax and judge the auto driving

[@headyhere]

I am open to trying Waymo. However, I would absolutely not trust a Tesla Robotaxi. City driving is new, but highway driving is almost 7 years old. FSD still sometimes does not perform smooth merge into highways. I have devloped a thick skin but my family are scared to death. if anything changes, I will update this comment 5 years from now!

[@maxmccammond8914]

Waymo is for people that would otherwise ride the shortbus...

[@justaguy6862]

That Uber CEO certainly looks like he knows his business is not sustainable, if Robotaxis take off.

[@Michael-jd5vf]

SMR is going to have a field day with this Video. Mr.SMR, do yo thang. Leave no stones unturned.

[@A-A-Ron_FTW]

Haha...I was thinking the same thing!! It won't be long into his video before the words "get f*cked!!"come flying out of his mouth 😂

[@carloscubas2824]

I can't wait😂

[@darbycaneen5774]

Bro that’s hilarious!!! I was thinking the same thing

[@lamaripiazza5226]

Who is SMR?

[@carloscubas2824]

@@lamaripiazza5226 The host of @solvingthemoneyproblem

[@rightangletriangle3188]

Love Waymo, clean and drive smoothly in SF. Hope the pricing will come down when more service is rolled out.

[@STEVEF777]

Another hit piece on Tesla. You failed to mention that Waymo requires HD mapping and are geo-fenced. Tesla has gathered 6 billion miles of driving data and when launched will be able to drive everywhere.

[@rioriggs3568]

Not a hit piece at all. Because of those elements and others, Waymo is at 17,000 miles between critical disengagements. While It took 3 years for Tesla to improve from 30 to 70 miles (current situation). The fact that Tesla has so many miles under their belt and yet have so little progressed confirms full unsupervised self-driving is not yet possible. Elon is pumping is stock with little care for customers, investors and humans on our roads. There is a reason the entire real AI community (PhD computer scientists) call Elon a Fraud. Including the man who is considered the grandfather of AI.

[@johnreed5056]

Point is who is willing to risk their life with 6 billion miles of data.

[@kenbob1071]

I noticed that too. Plus the guy who asked "what if you're in a dark tunnel and there's a traffic jam just beyond the exit...a camera won't see that." But a camera can have filters on it and see better in the dark than a human eye and filter out glare, etc.. Cameras aren't limited to the visible spectrum either. Could a human driver in that same situation see any better?

[@_Anurag_Thakur_]

Without proper lidar and radar sensor the Tesla's system is risky.

[@rhomotor]

At this point, all I can see is a loss of a lot of jobs for Uber and Lyft drivers, taxi drivers, and eventually truck and bus drivers. The technology is here and its only going to get better.

[@JeffpRRR666]

Not to mention the loss of jobs in the Vehicle Maintenance world! These EV's have way fewer moving parts and no gasoline or motor oil! So now Mechanics / Auto shops and gas stations will be dropping by the wayside too!

[@KC53557]

I’ll never own one of these. No desire. Nothing to do with safety, some of us love to drive.

[@ericchild3363]

The key point is that robotaxis will replace car ownership, eventually to where owning a car will be like owning a horse.

[@ddb5736]

Tesla just unveiled their robotaxi, the Cybercab. And also introduced the Robovan. Both are completely autonomous and have no steering wheel, no pedals, no controls at all. And the FSD (Full Self Drive) system is about to be ready to be activated on all current models. Things are about to really become interesting.

[@XinFinnetwork]

Safer than getting kidnapped by uber driver. Uber needs some strong regulations

[@weho_brian]

its safer than all humans, but the .0001% it gets in an accident people will freak out

[@cosmefulanito7510]

​@@weho_brianComparing the human driving vs the autonomous is a chimera. There are more "non autonomous" vehicles than autonomous. And without counting that if a human make a mistake, most of the time the liability is for the human, but in the av who or what have the responsibility? AV is a problem finding a solution.

[@CJ-uu3lk]

They nailed it one high profile accident even if overall they are safer than most of us driving on cellphone not looking at road. I’m for self driving cars and work on Tesla’s for a living so I understand little more than most people. They will never be perfect and people will criticize even as it’s already safer most of the time

[@Shadow_Grandmaster]

Can we talk about how as a society we will need a social safety net so that when jobs inevitably get taken over by AI and automation, the people who are without jobs will be able to survive in a world that is becoming more expensive to live in? I don't see enough discussion about UBI or other social programs that will address the needs of every day citizens affected by incoming revolutionary technology.

[@arpitjain2591]

Society will adapt and change with technology. We will never run out of jobs for people to do

[@andrewvh6809]

@@arpitjain2591 And we will never run out of companies trying to pay less for those jobs. Its baked into the profit motive of every company and every investor - cut costs wherever possible. So... we go round an round until we die.

[@TStark-vj2wo]

@@arpitjain2591 While I agree with you - it's how we will change is very uncertain at this point. Our government appears to be doing little in trying to get ahead of, plan for it. And as it seems corporations these days have a good amount of influence, things will not be fair for us humans, but I remain hopeful.

[@faustinpippin9208]

Ubi is stupid, Just swt max working hours to like 30 per week then companoes will have to hire more people, and cut taxes

[@Shadow_Grandmaster]

@@arpitjain2591 I think you're missing the point in that automation will wipe out a majority of manual labor jobs. I worry we will never recover from that and while yes new jobs will be created, not enough to make up for the amount that was loss to automation.

[@AWIraq]

0:15 the most logical answer to the Robotaxis

[@cupajoe640]

Tesla prob doesnt have anything on the spectrum of waymo. Maybe in some time they could catch up but I doubt it

[@daydreamer8373]

FSD is going to surprise a lot of people. Tesla are well placed to dominate in this space.

[@Alexander_S18]

Watch some FSD 12.5.5 videos, and not just one, watch for hours, I bet you'll change your mind - it's not perfect, but it solves driving to a far greater extent than Waymo does

[@kiloy1006]

​@@Alexander_S18 i watched, it's terrible.

[@WillieFungo]

​@@Alexander_S18I don't know why they haven't been working on both technologies.

[@robertgary3561]

I’ve taken them. They’re a bit dumb sometimes but they’re workable and will just get better

[@Mito383]

People drive way worse than a computer does. If humanity survives the next 200 years without any major incidents, I absolutely see it being illegal for people to drive their own cars because it will be too prone to crashes. At best you may have separate lanes.

[@faustinpippin9208]

A Little bit of snow covering the sensor and you will change your mind

[@simoncheung2427]

Taxi driver will definitely lose their job

[@randellino]

waymo is not real self driving they learn specific roads and are geofenced, Tesla is learning to drive anywhere.

[@flymoon1661]

apparently, 10 yrs of learning wasn't enough. cannot even run in a geofenced area.

[@sculpt-media]

Facts. Tesla will win. Is not about mapping a geofenced area, Tesla wants to be able to be placed anywhere on the planet and be able to navigate seemlessly. Thats a huge task but I can see them achieving it in time.

[@Withnail1969]

Learning very slowly then.

[@snuffeldjuret]

@@flymoon1661 the only thing worse than tesla fanbois are people like you

[@flymoon1661]

@@snuffeldjuret bcuz I use logic and accountability?

[@Terrathrax]

Praying that it's just like the loyal and reliable Robo-Taxi in the original "Total Recall" movie. That thing was the very best.

[@stayfitwithtony]

More jobs being lost to robots

[@WhyWorldWet]

Sounds like Uber and Waymo will merge together eventually, and get rid of all contract drivers, for cheaper waymo taxi rides. At least it'll be safer than Tesla robotaxi's

[@Hellomynameis93]

That’s the way the world works

[@Jack.Strait]

That lets our workforce put energy towards more valuable roles. More brains available to be insurance agents, bankers, doctors, scientists, etc. It's what's happened non-stop since the beginning of the industrial revolution!

[@doujinflip]

Which means even more expensive education by state-subsidized schools, as well as job training that companies hate funding on "entry level" hires.

[@MrDebranjandutta]

Noticed all the fleet cars are Jaguars, parent company being Tata Motors, whose holding co. chairman Ratan Tata passed away 2 days back. Hope he was pleased with one of his companies doing their bit for a driverless future.

[@skyak4493]

It is not enough to compare Tesla to Waymo. What was Cruise’s record before it got shut down? I bet it was well over 10X better than Tesla, likely 50X at least.

[@flymoon1661]

Now, imagine that how far Tesla is. Maybe in 3 years? they will be dealing with problem that Cruise had.

[@jakeroper1096]

@@flymoon1661Tesla is far past Cruise with self-driving. Tesla is behind waymo/cruise on the taxi service I’ll give you that.

[@LogicalArtist]

Humans don't drive using "vision alone". Hearing most definitely plays a role as well as the other senses to varying degrees in different scenarios.

[@TarequlSifat]

Waymo does not drive 17k miles between interventions. They are constantly being intervened remotely and they don’t report it. If they did then the miles between interventions would be much much less.

[@TheSpartan3669]

That's not true. That kind of intervention is the only way interventions can happen, so of course they count.

[@wiziek]

Still much better then tesla.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

There are few places this will be viable. Some dense urban areas so people don't need to own a car, but that is about it. Probably never work in the rural areas because the ROI won't be there. It will be sitting most of the time instead of earning money like taking grandma to the senior center for 50 cents. Then the elephant in the driverless room, somewhere like the greater Chicago area of 3 million people. Most of them going somewhere at every time of day, in every different direction, for quite a few miles of travel. So to displace private ownership of cars there will need to be about as many robotaxi's on the road. You can't tell the boss, judge, surgery patient, etc. that you were 30 minutes late because a taxi ride wasn't available.

[@swampwiz]

It might not work as a taxi company in rural areas, but it will work as personally owned vehicles. I fully expect that my current beater will be the last car with a steering wheel.

[@rioriggs3568]

Apple abandoned self driving after investing $10 billion and 10 years stating that the AI and the hardware is not advanced enough, it could be decades before it's fully possible on any roads in any weather conditions.

[@h-e-acc]

Nah Apple abandoned their self driving car project because they’re way behind with AI and they’re now playing catch up, they’re not even a major player now. When you talk about AI currently, what comes to mind are ChatGPT, Gemini, CoPilot, Grok, FSD, Meta..

[@XBarajasX]

I don't see investing billions in something just to save some bucks that results the driver's profits. And all these cars full of expensive tech are easy targets for crime and malfunction

[@rioriggs3568]

@@XBarajasX It’s an answer to a non existing problem really. We already have public transportation, taxis, Ubers, etc.

[@Alexander_S18]

@@XBarajasX a tesla in production currently costs 33k not that expensive, a waymo is probably around 120k

[@Alexander_S18]

@@rioriggs3568 Us has public transport? ;D would be the much smarter solution obviously

[@Liquidsunn87]

Why did everybody spend 2 minutes hating on Tesla? Is this a report or a bashing session?

[@kaym7704]

Tesla robotaxi is just fluff.

[@daydreamer8373]

That is set to dominate in this space.

[@Alexander_S18]

watch videos about FSD 12.5.5

[@FrankieHyman]

@@daydreamer8373 What are you a bot? Same canned reply Telsa fan boy.

[@daydreamer8373]

@@FrankieHyman Of course it would be the same reply, it is the same argument. My words doesn't change what Tesla is doing.

[@hughofIreland]

For me, it’s important to realize that having humans totally involved in decision-making while driving is relatively new. For thousands of years, AI was the norm. The “A” could mean augmented, or auxiliary, or (better still) animal. If these computers can do better than a horse, we’re 99% of the way to total autonomous driving. Having something else making life-or-death decisions while driving isn’t novel.

[@Lovetta-rx4px]

Love Waymo!! Best driver ever!

[@urbanstrencan]

This is the future in City transportation, don't see it used in rural areas soon but for cities is great solution, can't wait for Mate Rimac to start Verne autonomous vehicles program here in Europe ❤❤❤

[@NicksDynasty]

In the long term, they will be safer than human driver BY FAR

[@chihchang1139]

no they likely will not be. if anything, recent AI data has shown a plateauing of some asymptotic maximum with regards to data mining techniques, including visual categorization.

[@kino9371]

Yup same as AI art is way faster than human artists. We need more technology so we won't have to deal with puny humans anymore.

[@gvozdeni-b7v]

Yes, can't wait for hackers messing with the cars

[@RefreshingShamrock]

​@@gvozdeni-b7vWho needs hackers? Insurance companies already collect your driving data and use any and every mistake as an excuse to raise rates.

[@Alexander_S18]

@@chihchang1139 because “AI” looks at constructed data - all human-generated information is nothing compared to real video data from millions of cars driving dozens of miles every day

[@TransConBrilliance]

They are all over San Francisco streets. The one thing I've noticed more than anything is that they are better drivers than san Franciscans. Of course I've always complained about how northern ca drivers drive. But just yesterday I was behind 2 cars, one was waymo. The actual driver was the usual California horrendous, don't pay attention, I'm honking at them because they're driving on 2 lanes. I'll take more waymos on the streets over California drivers.

[@TJW68]

The ambulance-chasing lawyers are salivating over driverless cars. Every accident is a deep-pocket opportunity, since there's no driver to blame, only the company.

[@ahopefiend1867]

The cameras and algorithms are designed to catch these people in the act. They're going to get injured for nothing.

[@chetanrawool]

I would love to see all these companies try their products on Indian roads. If they can survive in India, they can survive anywhere.

[@shivendrasingh2862]

10:15: Research before speaking, I have driven Teslas in the complete dark on autopilot, tunnels, heavy rain with low vision. Autopilot has never let me down.

[@TransConBrilliance]

Then you're very very lucky. I was in a tesla with a friend who thought autopilot was flawless and the car nearly collided into a construction site. We almost died if not for me yelling at her to take the wheel because we're about to die.

[@shivendrasingh2862]

@@TransConBrilliance then I would say your friend is stupid. I never had issues because i pay attention. Tesla’s autopilot has been made better with each updates. They take driver interventions into account to solve complex navigations. I have seen this myself. On streets where it used to do stupid things, it stopped with an update as I always took over when it did that.

[@shivendrasingh2862]

@@TransConBrilliance Then I will say your friend is the stupid one. Since I have had Tesla, I have seen the updates in real time. It is not perfect and it is learning, meaning we need to always be ready to takeover. I have seen the updates fixing issues. When I bought it, I didn't like it very much but I saw with each update, they fixed the behaviour. I was always ready to intervene and that's the basic gist. It needs a human supervising in cases so it can learn to fix its mistakes. On roads it used to act strange and I always took over but eventually it stopped.

[@1805movie]

What's the definition of insanity, again?

[@Native722]

I'm going to ride in one soon.

[@solarrockstar]

@@Native722 that's what she said

[@AsuraVeri]

If I do not see a reply from you here soon. I will assume the worst.

[@matthewtheobald1231]

in 10 to 20 years we will look back at the people doubting this technology like we look back at people doubting the automobile in the 1910s

[@aabbcc5154]

Sir did you see the report at 3:40? Do you want to share your personal space with filth? Perphase its normal in California to share a ride with a working gal, but that is not rest of the world operates.

[@AznPrzsn]

I trust self-driving cars way more than humans. I've been hit 8 times in the last 3yrs by human drivers. 0 by automatic cars.

[@XBarajasX]

Surely there are the same amount of each one in the street 🙄

[@RefreshingShamrock]

Where do you live? I don't know anyone who's been hit that many times. Like 3 at the most.

[@faustinpippin9208]

You should Look both was before crossong the street 8 Times is extreme,

[@AznPrzsn]

@@RefreshingShamrock Missouri. Yep never been hit like this in the first 16yrs of driving. Then suddenly about 3yrs ago it started lol I do drive about 25K miles a year now though. Also I've only been hit when I wasn't moving. As in while in parking lots, at a stop light or stopped traffic lol

[@XBarajasX]

U must be banned from insurance companies

[@swampwiz]

If these are sold to the general public, and because of the owner will not be controlling the car, the manufacturer indemnifies the owner for accident liability, I will buy one.

[@flymoon1661]

I can never understand Tesla fanboys' logic. - "FSD is better than Waymo" - if so, why Tesla have not removed the driver yet? why do they call it as FSD supervised? (which is pretty much a joke replacing beta) - "Waymo is limited in Geofence" - Tesla can always set one area and, at least, proof that their system works too. Yet, they haven't even submitted approval for Lev3 autonomous run. When you can't tell Tesla can pull lev3 tech in a limited area, how in the heck can you say it'll work through out the US? - "Tesla WILL get there and surpass the competitors" - Yeh, sure. Keep believing it. After 10 years of false promises, you still want to believe him.

[@WillieFungo]

Well Elon has delivered on a lot of things tbh.

[@flymoon1661]

@@WillieFungo Yep, I'm sure he will deliver level 3 or higher FSD some time in the future. You just don't know when Actually, it will be delivered by Tesla engineers, not Elon. He is just a good businessman. But I'm sure it's not going to be "by the end of next year" lol

[@WillieFungo]

@@flymoon1661 If Tesla didn't have Elon, they probably wouldn't even be working on self-driving, robotics, or AI. Give the man his credit.

[@flymoon1661]

@@WillieFungo Um... Yes, you are right. Without Elon, Tesla might have been just one of the EV company. Again, he is a good businessman. He sees different innovative tech available and invests in. As I said in the beginning, I just don't understand Tesla fans logic insisting how Tesla is better than Waymo, Boston Dynamics and so on.

[@TheSpartan3669]

​@@flymoon1661It's more emotional than logical. They've bought into the mythos of Elon Musk and invested heavily in Tesla stock, so they prefer to believe Tesla is ahead and that the stock will make them rich, rather than face the possibility that they misjudged Elon and invested poorly.

[@GPanda110]

Numbers don't lie: Uber accidents per 100,000 rides: *12.9* Lyft accidents per 100,00 rides: *9.2* Autonomous Taxi accidents per 100,000 rides: *1.5* Logically the bot is orders of magnitude safer, and will only get more safe as time goes on.

[@abillionlives_abl]

This is just an ad to crap on Tesla for all the negative rebukes to CA and liberal policy

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

this comment did not age well, lmao. After the "event" yesterday. You were fooled -again.