Breaking the Myth of Buying a Car With Low Miles

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YourCarAngel

YourCarAngel

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@dfpolitowski2
@dfpolitowski2 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent education for the public buyer. Solid reasons. Someday car makers may use a computer to preform records of just how many times all these components are used. From the number of uses of each component/accessory engineers can formula an other number. This number can serve as a grade to understand just how much actual ware is on the entire car itself. Furthermore this system can be made an industry standard for all cars. Records can be stored upon the cars computer together with an online record available to any prospective buyer. Its about time manufacture do something like this.
@JezebelIsHongry
@JezebelIsHongry 6 жыл бұрын
You have a great idea. Do not be the kind of person that lives and thinks in the box-build the box!!!! Why not crowdfund or seek venture capital and create a consumer product that does all of this? Carfax has a huge blind spot and people weight it too heavily when buying used cars-even highline buyers. Think of your customer profile like this : Customer never buys a new car because they know 1. The car loses value the second they drive off the lot and 2. depending on their credit or how many limbs F&I severed as they used all of their Reddit car buying pro tips to slay the dragon but all F&I was thinking was how much they were going to earn once you felt you had ground then down and won....because you are not a bank, you even abandoned your pre approved credit union loan because of the “deal” or “perk” F&I conned you into accepting -they have 3 days to shop your loan until THEY won and maybe you were too aggressive and since you never read the Long Pink paper that you thought was a contract you didn’t read that whole “Right of Recission” portion (unless you are blessed to live in a no spot deal state.) ____and of course your Customer isn’t part of the block of 1.009% of car buyers who would benifit from a lease. ____Yoir customer almost thinks of car buying as a hobby and they engage in the process roughly every 6-7 years, educating themselves as long as it takes and focusing in on moderately luxury vehicles that are 7-8 years old. In fact, once they have found their car they study the current years line up for any potential vehicles they may purchase in 6-7 years. E.G. Your Customer has just purchased a 2011 Acura (Honda in actuality) TSX over a 2012 Lexus IS250 because they felt the Lexus had a 2k overvaluation due to cosmetic styling and a “brand glow.” And their mechanic felt the Acura was better matained.
@JezebelIsHongry
@JezebelIsHongry 6 жыл бұрын
_Your Customer also begins to research 2017/2018 mid sized Sort Of Luxury vehicles and focused on 3-4 models and keeps notes on them. Every year or two they spend a few days dry running a purchase, trying to get as close to the line as possible with the dealer or private seller of each model to attain an accurate price, then they call Kaylie at Navy Federal, Sam at Wawanesa, the Customer’s insurance agent so they can record the payment. The goal is always the same, leveraging the loan, ensuring they are never upside down and always have a large cushion with the loan (mantra-principle pay down, not interest pay down) against withdrawing $15,789 from the money market Account. __Because they clay, and self detail and bathe the interior with Leather Honey-keep with all the manufactures maintenance schedule, pick up their free color matched touch up from Manny over at Mission Body Bay to fix any scratch or minor ding they will be able to rotate to the other roll, the roll of Private Car Seller after 6-7 years when they are ready to sell and keep planning This Work and Workkmg This Plan, they will not feel pressure to lower their fair price and have a descent amount of cash (the target is always $6k to 7k, but if there is a major generation change (like when the Customer saw the 2009 TSX greatly reduce the price of used 2008 and lower TSXs their profit may be reduced. _Your customer then places 25% of the cash into the money market fund, unless the Vehicle Maintenance/Repair Fund needs an injection of capital and uses the remainder to purchase the “new” used car they have settled on. Having a device that records the info you mentioned would be an amazing feature to include when they are marketing their car to the public. Wow, kids you need to get into Digital Ad Sales. I’m just spent all this time here st Pete’s texting my Sales Manager that I was “following up with P1 prospects” and my base was raised to 98k (our CEO also increased our commission rate and even gave us an 11% bonus on last years base salary saying “thanks to the GOP and Baby Hands, we are excited......Blah Blah. You only gave us a 2.5% raise in salary. Cutting a $10,200 bonus check is nice, but since it’s taxed half is gone. I’d rather have it as a higher commission rate...plus next year-because of this amazing tax plan, we no longer can deduct our state income tax or Home loan interest and my realtor claims her industry feels Home values will drop 30-45% in the next few years because the major benifit of buying a home was clipped out in the plan. _Im your customer! Please develop this device and I will buy it! _Jk, I’m a key holder st Home Goods. Tracey is being a bitch and I’m hiding back in the stock room writing a youtube comment nobody will read. Hey, can you type - Sulla was brought down the Republic, not Julius Caesar so I can count the two people who even read this far?
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I'm calling BOGUS on this theory. Sound like the speal a used car salesman would try to sell you on. Other than the owner saying a car that's had the wheels driven off it saying oh it's just highway miles those don't count or cause any wear on the vehicle. How do you prove it's highway miles? You're trying to say my car would be better off if I drove 50 miles to get to work instead of the 2 miles I drive? If I drive my car to work 200 days out of the year that's 400 cold starts per year either way. You're trying to say the brakes work more stopping from 25 mph than they do from 70 mph? There's also the issue of steering and suspension. I drive truck and when I hop in a truck with 100k miles on it, it's a much nicer ride than one with 400k or 500k miles on it.
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 6 жыл бұрын
I think that, for example, iddle hours are stored.
@dfpolitowski2
@dfpolitowski2 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@McCov1
@McCov1 5 жыл бұрын
LA Traffic is so bad. You go to work in the morning, tell your kids, I love you, see you later. By the time you get back home, you’ll find out that your kids grew up and went off to college! 😭😭😭
@tylerbrowne69
@tylerbrowne69 5 жыл бұрын
College, LOL.
@darinp5612
@darinp5612 5 жыл бұрын
LA blows, don't live in it
@mysterio3562
@mysterio3562 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@skynet7662
@skynet7662 5 жыл бұрын
And the wife been sleeping with the UPS guy. You're welcome!
@Adrien_broner
@Adrien_broner 4 жыл бұрын
@Fat Buddha Toronto is horrible. Total fucking grid lock.
@bensnyder6159
@bensnyder6159 5 жыл бұрын
Around here, if a car has high miles the seller automatically claims "all highway". LOL.
@MrGivmedew
@MrGivmedew 5 жыл бұрын
Shit even if they have low mileage. If the seller knows what it means to say highway they will say highway.
@BigDaddyTCG
@BigDaddyTCG 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Seems to be a term overused and lied about
@Da_padilla
@Da_padilla 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking, it would be difficult to prove it's all freeway
@jasontroy3911
@jasontroy3911 4 жыл бұрын
Now what about the newer cars that have the auto stop start and how does that affect the wear on the engine
@CapitalWorksPro
@CapitalWorksPro 4 жыл бұрын
Before you talk mileage, try to ask what they do for work in general conversation. You might get lucky and they accidentally tell you where they work allowing you to verify where they drive and if, in fact, their vehicle was driven on a highway most of its life. If they dont tell you exactly where they work, knowing what they do will most likely allow you to estimate where they drive. If they live in town, chances are pretty good, right there, that it wasn't all highway miles though.
@niacal4nia
@niacal4nia 6 жыл бұрын
There is no such a thing as highway miles in Los Angeles.
@leslielucci3182
@leslielucci3182 6 жыл бұрын
or NY city/burbs
@shecat1964
@shecat1964 5 жыл бұрын
Or Toronto. He failed at what kind of hywy miles.
@AirplaneJunkie82
@AirplaneJunkie82 5 жыл бұрын
@@shecat1964 he didnt fail. Im pretty sure everyone has an idea of what highway miles are as opposed to being on a highway stuck in traffic. Maybe he failed in thinking every one uses common sense on youtube.
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ 5 жыл бұрын
Hey miles is only if you are going over 80 km/h constantly. Just riding the hey does not mean shit. Usually hyw is better for suspension components.
@AirplaneJunkie82
@AirplaneJunkie82 5 жыл бұрын
@@OrjonZ thanks, captain obvious.
@jimgravesus
@jimgravesus 5 жыл бұрын
The hard part of buying a used car is finding someone who takes care of their vehicles. So many people don't change their oil on schedule because they are cheap and irresponsible. They also accelerate and brake very harshly. They never change the transmission fluid. They don't keep their tires properly inflated. Unless you personally know the owner, buying used is a huge gamble.
@whichwasher2007
@whichwasher2007 5 жыл бұрын
ive allways had used cars that are 13 years old at least when i buy them, because 1 NEW is never financially better and 2. just test drive it first. i test drove 2 14 year old mercedes A classes, 1 that had 42,000 miles, 1 that was accident repair with 67,000 miles, the 42,000 miles steering was pulling to the left with the dodgy dealer saying 'oh its been sat around a while it will just be tyre pressures' and the repair damaged merc driving spot on. The only downside to cars this age is Rust. but since they are less than a 10th of the brand new cars. and maintenance even on my Fast, harsh accelerating, and fast driving, my repair bills are not bad. then again i keep all my cars serviced, and oil and filters changed every 4-6k miles.
@chienhuey212
@chienhuey212 5 жыл бұрын
The other problem is finding someone who's going to be honest about what type of miles the vehicle has on it. Everyone whether private party sellers or dealers will always say the miles were highway miles. I've had private party sellers tell me a car has a V6 when there's clearly only one valve cover and the guy is telling me - oh no absolutely it's a V6.
@reallyhappenings5597
@reallyhappenings5597 5 жыл бұрын
And yet, despite that, buying used is the only way to go.
@BrockOBauma
@BrockOBauma 5 жыл бұрын
That's why you inspect it and ask for maintenance records. I just looked at a 2008 pickup last week and passed when I saw the oil sludge under the cap.
@jhancock1575
@jhancock1575 5 жыл бұрын
For me, I don’t change my oil always on schedule because I’m busy. It’s called life and work. That said, when I do get around to it, I only use full synthetic. I do maintenance for me so my car will reasonably last. I’m not doing it for resale value. By the time I get rid of my car, nobody wants to pay that much for high mileage car even with proof of maintenance and care. Cars are a transportation expense, not an investment. People want and expect a cheap deal on a used car. They are buying the “unknown” and taking the risk.
@systemsoundbar4197
@systemsoundbar4197 6 жыл бұрын
The key to getting a quality used car, whether high mileage or low mileage is obtaining the car's service records.
@philc.9280
@philc.9280 5 жыл бұрын
Very true however people think Carfax is good enough. Only reported service center will show up on Carfax. I change my own oil with high quality filter and fully synthetic oil every 6 K miles. That will never show up on Carfax.
@ApartmentKing66
@ApartmentKing66 5 жыл бұрын
@@philc.9280 Same here...synthetic every 5-6k.
@samg5543
@samg5543 5 жыл бұрын
Records don't necessarily mean the work was done...
@garthlocklin6355
@garthlocklin6355 5 жыл бұрын
@@samg5543 Yes! My 81 yo Mother kept all her service records in the glovebox of her '01 Toyota Camry. She decided to sell it last year because her favorite repair shop started ripping her off and charging her for extra repairs that she didn't know she needed. She was told it needed a new alternator but while it was there it needed a new transmission too! The bill was $3300. I doubt the car ever got a new transmission. She couldn't find the service records either. I told her, "I know where they went; that repair shop was a used car dealer too. Your records are in the glovebox of a similar car he sold!"
@markbrowning4334
@markbrowning4334 2 жыл бұрын
@@samg5543 its still better than having no previous knowledge.
@davidwill1320
@davidwill1320 5 жыл бұрын
My dad was a car salesman and he taught me how to look at a car and determine how and where it was used and if it has had body work done. You are absolutely correct.
@Kevintendo
@Kevintendo 9 ай бұрын
How do you tell 🙏
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 6 жыл бұрын
TIME has a negative effect on a car too. A 2 year old car with 50,000 miles isn't the same as a 10 year old car with 50,000 miles. The 50k car had the miles put on quickly and likely are highway miles while the year old car had 8 more years for rubber hoses and seals to dry rot. 8 more years out in the sun and weather as well. I used to work with a guy that drove 100 miles to work every day each way. His car had over 250,000 miles on it and still had the original brake on it. He took it to a shop to get new brakes installed and the mechanic told him he didn't need them yet. The pads were still good. He told him to replace them anyway.
@areethhfd5691
@areethhfd5691 6 жыл бұрын
Yes Dennis, but when you find that car pay a little bit more for it, knowing that the poor bastard who owns it is existing in an unending nightmare. That is no way to live.
@Alumnikiid
@Alumnikiid 6 жыл бұрын
So whats better a 8 year old car with 50k or a 3 year old with 100k
@yosefmacgruber1920
@yosefmacgruber1920 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the regenerative braking on electric vehicles, and probably also hybrids?, make the brakes last forever, if the car is properly driven?
@jonsmith3574
@jonsmith3574 6 жыл бұрын
Dennis W it’s actually fairly common to see cars with 250,000 + miles with original power train if properly maintained
@missingremote4388
@missingremote4388 6 жыл бұрын
My 25 year old suburban has 50,000 miles. 30 k put on by me. Never garaged and just basic maintenance & tires.
@tardeliesmagic
@tardeliesmagic 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best explanation of a used car out there.This guy knows what he's talking about and i've been in the car trade for 20 yrs.Thing is worn steering wheel can look like high miles thou if used in the town/city.Great video fella.
@okiedokie2557
@okiedokie2557 4 жыл бұрын
you hit the nail in the head. i bought a used e46 bmw and drove it 10 miles every day. i started getting oil leaks and smoke out of my exhaust. i couldn't understand why until i did some research and found out that i was not driving the car far enough on a daily basis
@jacobkostka31
@jacobkostka31 3 жыл бұрын
And how do you fix that ?
@Epotheros
@Epotheros 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobkostka31 An Italian tune up.
@lilHippo
@lilHippo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Epotheros you mean he beat it up and then threw it in the river, then claimed the insurense?
@greer8288
@greer8288 2 жыл бұрын
What? You don't need to drive the car far on a daily basis for the car to run good. You have other problems
@markbrowning4334
@markbrowning4334 2 жыл бұрын
I hope there were other circumstances that you're not disclosing. We bought a Honda Passport brand new back in 2020 and still haven't put 10,000 miles on it yet. I would say that constitutes not driving it enough.
@Atouk
@Atouk 2 жыл бұрын
2 year old 2019 Silverado with 60K miles. I purchased it brand new. I commute 53 miles each way, all HWY driving. The biggest expense so far has been tires. On my 2nd set now. Always wondered why a pre-lube pump can't be installed to pressurize the lubrication system BEFORE starting the enging.
@youtoobe169
@youtoobe169 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have been preaching this to my friends but they don't believe me. I will be sharing this video. (I daily drive a car with 225K miles and counting and it's very reliable and runs great)
@oooohsnaaaap
@oooohsnaaaap 6 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I leave my car on all the time. Never turn it off!
@jgripen969
@jgripen969 5 жыл бұрын
M.H. L. That will probably clog upp your engine with carbon instead😉
@Winchester1973
@Winchester1973 5 жыл бұрын
Why? If it's been on, doing a restart on a warm engine isn't much of an issue.
@johnwhodat8135
@johnwhodat8135 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@shaf3006
@shaf3006 5 жыл бұрын
Now I just keep my car in the garage, to keep it value
@stevewise1656
@stevewise1656 5 жыл бұрын
M.H. L. I was thinking the same thing.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 7 жыл бұрын
That clock is not a coincidence
@BikerJim74
@BikerJim74 7 жыл бұрын
LOL, yeah man, I was wondering about that.
@YourCarAngel
@YourCarAngel 7 жыл бұрын
Affirmative.
@ELi2190
@ELi2190 7 жыл бұрын
I was staring at it
@gerryquinn8390
@gerryquinn8390 6 жыл бұрын
Yeh, but that clock is still correct twice a day.
@abepowers4379
@abepowers4379 6 жыл бұрын
it's stuck at said time. I wonder what he did after this video
@Anonymous-ji4sb
@Anonymous-ji4sb 3 жыл бұрын
I can under stand now how highway cars have way less wear and tear. Someone I know bought a 2016 Honda Civic with 265,000 miles. Honestly I thought he was out of his mind. However it still looks, runs and drives literally like new. It even still has the original brake pads with 30% of life left.
@DIE2dayORelse
@DIE2dayORelse Жыл бұрын
that's a great point especially nowadays with car prices being sky high. It can be good to buy a high mileage (well built) car like that, highway mile wear like that equivalates to 1/10th of the miles one would wear driving in a dense city. Plus they're dirt cheap, only downside is you wont have much resale value either but that's no big deal if you plan on keeping it
@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICTV
@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICTV Жыл бұрын
What are u smoking It definitely does not have the same brake pads idiot
@Anonymous-ji4sb
@Anonymous-ji4sb Жыл бұрын
@@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICTV What are your smoking? We’re talking about a 3 year old car that had 265,000 100% highways miles on it. Of course it had the same pads.
@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICTV
@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICTV Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-ji4sb no idiot
@Anonymous-ji4sb
@Anonymous-ji4sb Жыл бұрын
@@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICTV Ok well then do you have an explanation on how they wore out given the fact they weren’t used?
@davidhunter1538
@davidhunter1538 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting information. But since almost no one is going to know which type of miles a prospective car purchase has, it's of little use.
@adashofabsurd3343
@adashofabsurd3343 3 жыл бұрын
look at his other video in tips to spot highway vs local mileage on used cars..very slick
@Max-nh3gp
@Max-nh3gp 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The idea about sourcing cars from areas outlying the metropolitan area alone is such a great idea it earned a subscriber. Thank you for this very informative video.
@Qrail
@Qrail 4 жыл бұрын
That info is right on. I talked to a guy with a long commute who had 312,000 highway miles on his car. I found a similar car with 1/2 of the highway miles. It served me well for 3 years.
@dawna4185
@dawna4185 5 жыл бұрын
i say just use the damn car and enjoy every second of it....
@chrisbailey4759
@chrisbailey4759 5 жыл бұрын
In the year 2020 the European Union is going to enforce laws to stop people from having fun with their new cars via mandatory speed limiter's and real time GPS position trackers, think your self very lucky if you live in the USA!
@dawna4185
@dawna4185 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbailey4759 thankfully, i don't live in the USA....
@sveddish
@sveddish 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbailey4759 Is that so? Where did you learn this?
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 4 жыл бұрын
@@sveddish He's likely referring to efforts to have eye-monitoring equipement installed in cars to detect over-tiredness/drunkeness/distraction. Unless you find wreckless/inattentive driving "joyful behaviour", you have nothing to worry about.
@OlJackBurton
@OlJackBurton 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbailey4759 Now that 2020 is over, has this actually happened?
@kippaseo8027
@kippaseo8027 5 жыл бұрын
I have 414 k miles on my 2000 Camry. On a recent trip from Miami Beach to Gainesville which is about 350 MI I was registering 37 MPG with a full trunk, two people, in the AC blowing the whole way. My average speed was 78 mph. My Camry is better tuned and has a healthier engine did most cars with a third of the miles on them. I've never had the car in for service where at least one of the mechanics have offered to buy the car from me. I bought her with only seven hundred miles on the odometer in late 99 and plan to go a million more in my little girl. I keep all the maintenance records since I became mature enough to do so which was right after I paid the car off back in 2005. I was shocked to realize that I have just replaced only the second set of back brakes.
@thromboid
@thromboid 6 жыл бұрын
I'd wondered exactly this. Some cars can report total engine runtime via OBD, in which case you can compute the car's lifetime average speed, which would be a reasonable indication of overall driving style.
@blackpassenger
@blackpassenger 7 жыл бұрын
ive bought some 30 used cars over the last 30 odd years, and I've always instinctively, put your suggestions to practice. i was waiting for your to mention carbon buildup on low miles, city driven cars. Bought a 2000 bmw 320 here in tokyo a year and 4 months ago. had only 20k miles on the clock. drove it 20k miles in a year with slight knocking under normal driving conditions, and heavy knocking under load. I suspected the cause was carbon buildup. after removing the plugs to poor oil down the plug holes to remedy a no start problem from cylinder wash down, I discovered that the plugs were covered in carbon. cleaned them up and reinstalled them. now running perfectly
@hafthorkristjansson2436
@hafthorkristjansson2436 5 жыл бұрын
Cars should have a start counter, hour counter along with the miles driven. ;)
@germanboy5392
@germanboy5392 5 жыл бұрын
My 2012 Caravan does...
@Tintoycar
@Tintoycar 5 жыл бұрын
You are right. But with Toyota's and Honda's it doesn't matter, my Civic had 500 000 km, my friends Civic had 150 000 km, both 18 years old, no difference. Just the clutch on the 500000 km car was replaced.
@Epotheros
@Epotheros 3 жыл бұрын
Same with anything with the Ford 4.6L V8. Those engines with the 4r70w transmission routinely put on 800,000 kms in the city without issue.
@archangele1
@archangele1 6 жыл бұрын
It is more important how the car was maintained. I unfortunately bought a low mileage Infiniti, 34K miles, and the previous owner was obviously a complete idiot. They did not change the oil enough for a VQ37 engine and it is so sludged up and such that it has been deemed cheaper to actually replace the engine due to it's issue of oil usage at start up and deceleration. Although highway miles are easier on a car then the stop go and short trips in cities, maintenance it the most important thing. It is even more important to change the oil a LOT if you drive a lot in a city and or do a lot of short trips. If you have a rear wheel drive car with a Nissan VQ35 or VQ37, change that oil at no more then 3.5K miles. Believe me. I have a bit of experience with both these engines and one is toast thanks to 8K + oil changes. Automatic transmissions need more service in cities and clutches in manuals will wear out far quicker too. This is a great video.... I have seen cars with 100K miles on them that were driven on highways look and perform far better then city cars with as little as 20K miles on them.
@MrWilliam.Stewart
@MrWilliam.Stewart 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, you bought a Nissan. My condolences.
@jimervin387
@jimervin387 6 жыл бұрын
I followed your advice even before you gave it when I bought my 97 GMC pickup with 291 K from a small town. One way I could tell it had a lot of highway miles was by the badly cracked windshield . But I liked the truck so much that I probably would have bought it even if it was in the city.
@kevinhagen2999
@kevinhagen2999 7 жыл бұрын
I don’t buy the city miles or cold start statements that it shortens life of vehicles. Taxis run hundreds of thousands of miles all city. Fed Ex , UPS, couriers, etc. shut their vehicles off at every delivery, with some making 80+ stops every day, and they also last hundreds of thousands of miles. Maintain your vehicle and it will last a long time.
@YourCarAngel
@YourCarAngel 7 жыл бұрын
Taxis and delivery trucks "cold start" their vehicles once per shift and then drive hundreds and hundreds of miles. This is front and center to the point that I am making in the video. Cold starts. cold transmission shifts and condensation events are what prematurely kill a car.
@oscardelaserna9788
@oscardelaserna9788 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Thomas There's something even better: use an engine preluber.
@oscardelaserna9788
@oscardelaserna9788 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Thomas I have that but haven't installed it yet.
@marlinmr7
@marlinmr7 6 жыл бұрын
I will add to this that Taxis, Fed Ex, UPS, etc. types are also usually modified/designed/engineered before being used for the function they serve vs. consumer grade. Plus they are usually maintained under very strict maintence schedules and not always true but when not in use - these types of transportation are sitting in heated/air conditioned facilities besides. Where I am employed they built brand new office and shop with in floor heating in the shop portion where all of our trucks and such are stored when not in use. Wind chill tonight is about 35 below and everything is in a building that "cools down" to 60F on the weekends. This building was built in 2010 and already they have notice a decrease in frequency of replacement of trucks and vans of an average of roughly $200,000 less per year than before.
@incargeek
@incargeek 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Hagen Those engines are running ALL DAY
@i.p.knightly149
@i.p.knightly149 5 жыл бұрын
City Sue's car is full of dents shaped like bicycle helmets.
@Adrien_broner
@Adrien_broner 4 жыл бұрын
No that's Josh's car after several nights of driving and driving
@jmwlife2k
@jmwlife2k 5 жыл бұрын
I understand your math, but that’s not comparing two cars with higher and lower miles. You proved that if you buy two cars at the same mileage that the one with highway miles is a better buy. For example, if they both sold their cars after owning them for 5 years each, then their amount of cold starts would be the same assuming their driving habits outside of commuting to work are exactly the same. But Mr Highway would have put on (at worst) 10x as many miles! So do you want a car with 30,000 miles or one with 300,000 miles after 5 years? And if you make the comparison more fair in the miles category, then the year would give it away. Do you want a 2014 truck with 30,000 miles on it, or a 2018 truck with 30,000 miles? Some people may pick 2014 because it cheaper, and it would be cheaper for a big reason. But the better quality car would likely be the newer one. With that said, I think these two statements are still true. - If the mileage on two vehicles are the same, then generally the newer model car will be higher quality. - If the year on two vehicles are the same, then the one with drastically lower miles on it likely will be higher quality. There’s exceptions to the rules, but this is still the rules lol
@tonyjackson5115
@tonyjackson5115 6 жыл бұрын
You are spot on about the door dings and curb rash. My wife's car is 7 years old and just turned over 50,000 miles (4 mile commute one way). She works at out local mall and her car is COVERED in door dings. At this point the resale value is almost completely shot. Luckily I have kept up on basic maintenance pretty well so it should last us an extremely long time. The idling thing is absolutely the #1 reason I would never buy a decommissioned police vehicle. You're talking about a car that, in some cases, ran 24/7. A lot of that time is sitting on the side of the road or in parking lots idling. I'm no mechanical engineer but my guess would be that things like cam lobes, valve guides, and cylinder linings would wear down quite a bit even though the mileage might not be that high. I realize they're maintained much better than the average consumer car, but that can only go so far. Please feel free to let me know how wrong I am and how much you all hate me now. ;)
@yves2075
@yves2075 5 жыл бұрын
Lesson: don't buy cars from urban women.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 5 жыл бұрын
Not mention that women tend to forget to do basic maintenance on their cars.
@jlewsd
@jlewsd 5 жыл бұрын
Especially if their name is Sue
@dopiaza2006
@dopiaza2006 5 жыл бұрын
SEXIST PIG!!!!!!!
@Daniel-ke1bn
@Daniel-ke1bn 5 жыл бұрын
@@dopiaza2006 you're a dummy, do you call women a sexist pig evertime they camplain about how men are toxic???
@j_freed
@j_freed 5 жыл бұрын
80's Nostalgia Guy - *women sort of forget, they sort of don't know* cars need gas AND fresh oil, and *they sort of partly don't care and would prefer to resent* the car's inconvenient needs and blame other people for parts failures. Women are feel-y creatures and normally technical things like cars are not their friend. This is all the women in my family, basically. They refuse to understand why completely neglected components will not serve their intended life, and how little care and effort it takes to preserve brakes, batteries, engines, tires etc. The key word being 'effort.'
@bluefishbeagle1
@bluefishbeagle1 6 жыл бұрын
Additionally auto with city miles and high braking events sustain more damage on the suspension because the braking event is slowing tons of steel, shocks, springs, rubber insulators are being subjected to wear that does not occur while the vehicle is moving at a steady speed. For anyone who reads this here's a driving tip, do not I repeat do not apply brakes when hitting a pothole or rough conditions if you can help it at all, release brakes and reapply after you pass over the bump. Your suspension will thank you in reduced maintenance costs.
@angryrepairman5275
@angryrepairman5275 6 жыл бұрын
Actually milage is the least important thing in a used car in eastern europe because in here they are all turned back about 200000km or more before being sold.
@MrBoreray
@MrBoreray 6 жыл бұрын
Remember with most modern cars the real mileage is stored in the key but I think you have to go to a main dealer to retrieve this info.
@angryrepairman5275
@angryrepairman5275 6 жыл бұрын
Eastern europeans can not afford modern cars with 400 bucks a month salary
@Jonjs99
@Jonjs99 4 жыл бұрын
@@angryrepairman5275 Wrong! Yes, salary is shitt but our small city is full of super expensive cars
@gsscotland
@gsscotland 6 жыл бұрын
Shorter trips can be more taxing on the engine but highway trips can be more taxing on the suspension. I remember seeing a video which had a camera mounted where the suspension was and the difference was incredible. At higher speeds the suspension was literally going bananas!
@davidogan
@davidogan 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg! Fantastic video. I've been driving for 20 years and so many of the stuff you presented here I didn't know! And I thought I knew cars!! Imao. I was looking to buy a new 2nd hand car previously. But now, I just watch your video because its so entertaining and informative. Great and diligent work. Truly enjoyed it. Cheers.
@nathansharma87
@nathansharma87 3 жыл бұрын
I obsessively think about all the things you make videos on. I'm like a car enthusiast specialising in an ocd of maintenance. I've never met anyone on the same wavelength as me until I found your channel!
@hotchihuahua1546
@hotchihuahua1546 6 жыл бұрын
I am familiar with all of these things but you do a great job of explaining it in detail. I will share this with friends who are car shopping.
@joseCalderon1976
@joseCalderon1976 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I bought a used 2012 infiniti m37 with 140k highway miles and it looks almost brand new on the inside and outside. Garage kept most likely.
@Radnally
@Radnally 6 жыл бұрын
I think the main attribute of most cars going hundreds of thousands of miles is proper and continual maintenance. Ive had cars I drove short distances and many cold starts that lasted over 200k as well as long distance cars. The common factor was maintenance. So low miles still means something.
@jason41a
@jason41a 2 жыл бұрын
i just got a 100,000km 8 year old car. the interior looks almost new. the exterior is minimally worn. it must have been parked in a garage and driven mostly his 20km route to work everyday or something. nothing is really worn. the gear, the engine sound and feel great.
@Wipsplash
@Wipsplash 6 жыл бұрын
You are correct in what you say but a lower mile car will always out sell a high mileage because it sounds like a better deal.
@a.jennings4664
@a.jennings4664 5 жыл бұрын
Any website that computes car appraisal values (KBB, NADA, Car Gurus, Edmonds, Cars.com, etc.) all use mileage as one of the key variables in determining a vehicle's value. NONE of them place any value on "city" versus "highway" miles. Why? Because a low mileage car will almost always sell quicker and for more money than the same high mileage car in the same cosmetic/mechanical condition.
@vladmorosanu
@vladmorosanu 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I do generally agree with some of the statements in the video, however, let me give you some food for thought here: 1. The amount of time it takes for the engine to reach optimal operation temperature is around 5 minutes give or take, depending on the climate, engine type, etc. What's the wear ratio between the wear incurred by high engine starts and wear incurred during regular driving? Again, depends on the engine etc but would doubt engine wear is higher for the low mileage city car. 2. 500 miles in the city with a 5 mile commute will be done in 50 days vs 5 days to the person living outside the city, should you drive to work every day which is why people mostly buy cars. 3. Disks and pads are consumables. Old disks and pads are less effective and should be changed based on visual inspection even if not worn. 4. There are no more potholes outside the city than there are in the city. Even if the ratio was not 1:1, I'm sure it's not 1:10. 5. The highway dude will do 22,000 miles every year vs 2,200 city miles (220 working days on average. So highway Howard will have gone through 2 oil changes (estimated) while City Sue will go to service the car just because the oil lost its properties due to natural oxidation. Belts, transmission, bearings, all measure wear based on number of miles or time (constant variable). Given the above, Howard's 5 year car will have accumulated 110,000 miles and Sue will only have driven 11,000. Car manufacturers offer warranty based on miles driven or time passed. Time is a constant variable in both Howard and Sue however Howards car will be out of warranty faster. If you extrapolate a 10 year car driven exclusively in the city vs a 10 year car with highway miles, you will get a mileage so high for the highway driven car that it's not even worth buying it anymore and most like will have engine issues whereas the highway car may have some dings and dents here and there but I am certain the engine will be in better condition. :) As long as you drive the car every day, 5 miles is enough the warm up the engine completely and remove the exhaust condensation, get the engine to optimal temperature, etc., with the added benefit of gaining less wear on your engine. If you're implying hey, I don't drive the car every day, then you hit another people - all the rubber and moving joints of the car age a lot faster if not used. The ratio of City vs Highway miles to be taken into consideration when purchasing a used car is mostly city miles 1- highway miles 3 but I still believe a 3 year used car with 6,600 miles on it is practically and technically a lot better than a 66,000 mile highway car. Fun fact: the average person farts 20 times per day. That's an average of 0.83 per hour. Average speed on a highway is 55. How many farts does Howard car have in the driver's seat if you purchase it from him after 5 years, given he commutes an estimated 2 hours per day? :D
@edubb2491
@edubb2491 5 жыл бұрын
I drive 4 miles to work takes 12 mins to get there.. I let the engine warm up 3 mins before i take off so 15 mins of running..same amount for going home..this is both winter aand summer in PNW where its mild seasons..i got a 2000 buick regal with 65k..so far so good..with routine oil changes.. Hope it last 10 more yrs with no problems leaks..i jus dont want fluid leaks..its in carport..no grage..we will see..i babt the heck out of it
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with every thing you have said in this video. my friend got me an old ladies car with low miles , the key was very worn and the door lock was spongy and stopped working , the car was well maintained with full service history . but the silencer rusted due to water from condensation , the other thing you didnt mention was the tyres ,that had lots of deep tread on them BUT the walls cracked up and perished so i had to replace them .and the sunroof and windows were sticky but it was still a very good car that i had for 8 years and still had lots of life in her when i traded it in., ( It was a 1992 Nissan Sunny)
@williamfleming5740
@williamfleming5740 5 жыл бұрын
On
@greer8288
@greer8288 2 жыл бұрын
You won't drive it like she did and you'll find a lot of things getting ready to break down on it
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 2 жыл бұрын
@@greer8288 It was a Nissan Sunny i drove it hard it never let me down
@546cowboy8
@546cowboy8 6 жыл бұрын
I have an example for you. I worked in a dealer and one night I saw a vehicle on the service drive that was in nice condition so I asked what they were planning to do with it. Turns out it was five years old and driven daily on the highway between San Antonio and Austin, Texas. That is a distance of around 250 highway miles a day 5 days a week. It was the original owner and they traded it in on a minivan, DUH! It had 156,000 miles and the dealer was going to send it to wholesale. So I bought it for $4000 and drove it for the next 18 years and another 156,000 miles before an unavoidable accident bent the frame making it not worth the repair price. The kicker is I never had to add a quart of oil and had nothing but maintenance repairs. I changed oil and filter every 3000 miles and was still running fine at 315,000 miles. The insurance company of the one at fault paid me $3860 and I parted out the truck for another $800 so do you see the benefit of highway mileage now?
@bpurkapi
@bpurkapi 5 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, buy cars from rural areas. Highway miles is just a metaphor for vehicles that are outside of cities and traffic jams.
@user-os8sq3uh4n
@user-os8sq3uh4n 5 жыл бұрын
Except not in the North. Too much salt on the roads.
@seymourhoffman4445
@seymourhoffman4445 5 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. I have family that lives in a small 4,000 person town 100 miles from a city; most of the people living there rarely leave the small town. They only drive their cars 3-9 blocks every day. Their family, work, restaurants, gas station (one single gas station), all within a 12 block radius... They drive to a big box store in the nearest city once a month to stock up. So they almost have worse used cars than cities, as the small town cars rarely warm up to normal running temp driving such a short distance with zero traffic. They keep the miles extra low. But it's a lot of wear and tear on the car. Also, being its a small town, it's not a rich town... So the streets aren't in great shape and the suspension takes a beating for those few blocks on top of everything else.
@stephenciszewski3564
@stephenciszewski3564 4 жыл бұрын
Late 80's I bought a 2 and a half year old Olds 98 with 68K on it. Corporate lease car. Kept it for years, sold it with 235K. DO NOT be afraid to buy a newer car with high mileage
@MrWilliam.Stewart
@MrWilliam.Stewart 7 жыл бұрын
I've said for years that I wished cars had a start counter. Another great video Greg.
@anthonymascolo5519
@anthonymascolo5519 6 жыл бұрын
Casey Stoner I agree, especially in this day in age with tons of obd2 data. We should know more than just mileage. How about engine hours and engine start ups. Then a consumer would really know what kind of used car they are buying.
@dylanstevens8542
@dylanstevens8542 6 жыл бұрын
Actually most semi trucks have hour counters, and a lot of tractors/farm equipment have hour counters built into where an odometer would be
@anthonymascolo5519
@anthonymascolo5519 6 жыл бұрын
Dylan Stevens Exactly. This feature should be integrated into all cars. There is no reason why it shouldn't. It's relatively easy to implement and will give future consumers more info about their potential purchase.
@dylanstevens8542
@dylanstevens8542 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Mascolo unfortunately tho, the newer cars would be the first to implement, and obviously the older cars that don’t have it can’t get it now 😂😂. Kinda of like a long time fuck up
@bluefishbeagle1
@bluefishbeagle1 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea the black box could be programmed for that but???? Many aircraft engines are tracked that way it's called "cycles" and refers to starts that result in the aircraft leaving the ground and landing not just starting for taxi or other reasons.
@49littlethoughts
@49littlethoughts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I believe this to be the most informative video to watch before looking at any car for sale! I also believe that the millions of cold starts I put on my last car was what killed her off!
@AP-bo1if
@AP-bo1if 5 жыл бұрын
low miles means diddly squat when they haven't changed the oil even once. if you're running on the same oil for 80k miles, that engine is garbage.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone changes their oil now They've got people brain washed into changing their oil every 3,500 miles
@jaredpatterson1701
@jaredpatterson1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedevilsadvocate5210 would it kill anything if you did? And changed it yourself?
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredpatterson1701 You have to dispose of your used oil properly. Then I suppose you could change it as frequently as you would like. That’s why they call it your car.
@jaredpatterson1701
@jaredpatterson1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedevilsadvocate5210 I thought you were going to suggest a certain time the oil was going to last
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredpatterson1701 I think they say the new stuff can go to 10,000. Depending on your driving habits. I usually change it at 5k or 6k www.edmunds.com/car-maintenance/stop-changing-your-oil.html
@chien-shengtsai8626
@chien-shengtsai8626 5 жыл бұрын
I once sold a 1997 Volvo; drove it 17K miles in 10 months--almost all highway, and I lived in the suburbs; car was well-maintained. Put an ad in the NY Times. Many callers. Some from NYC--most didn't want to bother trekking out of NYC to see the car, would rather buy a city residing car--with all the pothole damage and dings. Some complained about the high mileage in 10 months--to them, low mileage is king. Car was in mint condition. Finally got a buyer--husband liked the car, it was an 850 T-5; he made me an offer and I told him to send me a $3K good faith deposit. Next day the wife called--she said she doesn't like an automatic, rather prefer a stick shift, doesn't want the T-5, she's not going to drive 100 mph, and the car had way to many miles--and she didn't like the color or the fact it was a wagon. She lowered the agreed upon price by $6K and said, take it or leave it. Hey, I wasn't a car dealer, but a private seller--that stuff didn't work on me. I sold the car to another buyer.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 5 жыл бұрын
Dames always pulling the switch
@Supernaut2000
@Supernaut2000 5 жыл бұрын
This advice is timeless, get it? The clock never moved!
@altg5708
@altg5708 Жыл бұрын
A cold start doesn't happen from running errands and restarting your car. The cylinder walls and other components still have a thin layer of oil. It isn't like being off overnight and a startup in the morning or 8 hours while you work. Also in my case I usually leave the car idle when I go in and out of a place quickly because the a/c in the summer and the heat in the winter. Highway miles cars have their own set of problems. All kind of debris hit the car wearing the finish, the radiator gets clogged with road grime, dust and insects.The cars belts wear more, the tires wear out more and the sun and wind hit it more. Highway Howard uses his radio as much or more as City Sue too. I also think if you run you car for 15 minutes and it gets to normal temp it doesn't take very long to get rid of moisture. There is no debate that a low milage city car is better than a high mileage city car. However, is a low mileage city car better than a high mileage highway car? That would depend on several factors, the biggest being how low is low milage and how high is high mileage. 30,000 vs 100,000 I would go with low mileage. I would go low mileage also because IMHO the low mileage car always looks almost new and at least way better than high mileage. Engines matter too. And the car company.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 5 жыл бұрын
For a couple hundred dollars cars could have an electric pre oiling pump. 2 seconds and never dry start.
@davidgriffiths7696
@davidgriffiths7696 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Kubrick yes I was thinking that as well, there is no doubt some excuse, like the other parts also wear out and make repair maintenance unviable for the average owner, regardless of the unnecessary destruction to the engine.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidgriffiths7696 - There are some on the market. They go from the drain plug hole to a plug in the block somewhere. It's add on, because cars were not made to have one and thus they aren't the sleekest, most optimal engineering. They would also double the life of turbochargers if they had a cool down function running oil through the turbo for 30 seconds after shutdown so oil remaining in the turbo isn't burnt to coke and you have a gritty dry startup next time. I wouldn't own a turbo vehicle without one. The cost of one turbo would pay to have it installed. They could make automatic transmissions that shift well and last, they might have to dig out the tooling from 1965, but they could do it. They need to bring back the 2 speed Powerglide which only parasititizes 19 horsepower. As an extreme example a c6 Ford transmission takes 60-70 horsepower. Nothing wrong with the oily fluids we used to have, Type F, TypeA, Dextron. They just lubricated better. The new fluids last longer, possibly but I don't think they lubricate as well.
@davidgriffiths7696
@davidgriffiths7696 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Kubrick am getting into the habit of running the engine for 30 seconds before switch off to preserve the turbo, hopefully the moving parts equilibrate rapidly and get a last drench of cooler oil. Yes that’s interesting about the preignition oil cycling, I’d certainly be getting one if I lived in a town.
@HarrisonCountyStudio
@HarrisonCountyStudio 5 жыл бұрын
I often wondered if an engine block heater (like on my 7.3 diesel) would help a gasser during cold starts. Warmer oil will flow faster to where it’s needed.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 5 жыл бұрын
It was less than that for me years ago when I did it. Easy installation and gave me about 1 atm of oil pressure before starting with good flow over the cams. The dealer saw it once and called to get the info. for their owner. Used the pump to change the oil, too.
@kbmblizz1940
@kbmblizz1940 2 жыл бұрын
Cold start short trips are motor oil & exhaust system killers. Water condense from cold air on hot metal. If not runned for long enough to burn it out it will dilute motor oil forming acids/sludge & rust on exhaust.
@coolbreezeNYC1
@coolbreezeNYC1 14 күн бұрын
runned?...a new word?
@agm6095
@agm6095 5 жыл бұрын
The seat wear is the same because both are going to work once per day regardless of how many miles they drive. In fact the seat wear is more on the 50 mile driver because he is putting pressure, sagging it more because he sat on it much longer. Why is the clock at 4:20 the whole time you did the video.
@Rockindaxmike
@Rockindaxmike 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I live in Manila now which is one of the worst cities with traffic. It’s so surprising to see how many used cars have super low mileage
@13noman1
@13noman1 5 жыл бұрын
inarguable, solid points BUT how does a buyer confirm types/numbers of miles?
@tompain2751
@tompain2751 5 жыл бұрын
You have to bait the people about their lifestyle.Make assumptions,based on what you see.The vehicle being garaged,is a huge bonus!Is there a current oil change sticker/service records.
@stanis8431
@stanis8431 4 жыл бұрын
Archangel Greg has a video that addresds your question.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 6 жыл бұрын
Worth the thumbs up - great advice. I would add one more reason for avoiding low miles cars. At 50K miles it is hard to tell how a car has been treated; at 100K miles it is hard to hide. I can more reliably get 150K miles of good service out of a car with 100K miles than one that only has 50K miles on it. When the miles get below 80K miles I have to take it to a professional to put it on a lift - $100 or so well spent!
@wordreet
@wordreet 6 жыл бұрын
It's been known for a long time that highway mileage is gentler on an engine. I first knew about it 40years ago. But the value in low mileage is no myth, per-se .
@coolbreezeNYC1
@coolbreezeNYC1 14 күн бұрын
per-se
@wordreet
@wordreet 13 күн бұрын
@@coolbreezeNYC1 Correct!
@MrChiangching
@MrChiangching 6 жыл бұрын
My grandmother bought a car from a friend who actually only drove it to church and only short trips around town. It had 25k on it. A few months later the top end had to be rebuilt.
@YourCarAngel
@YourCarAngel 6 жыл бұрын
My point entirely
@MandoTrades
@MandoTrades 5 жыл бұрын
I like it, very slick 420 sign haha (THECLOCK)
@michaelchang2930
@michaelchang2930 7 жыл бұрын
I own a 1992 cream puff with 18K original miles and I can say what you've detailed in the video is quite true, although the car is garaged, never seen snow or rain, and looks immaculate inside and out.
@MrBrownchicken
@MrBrownchicken 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that the time is always 4:20 in his videos? In cars and his office
@f42un84u
@f42un84u 5 жыл бұрын
Other very helpful criteria: 1) Garage kept (parts and seals will last longer) 2) Non road salt or sea salt areas (cars rust out quicker near ocean and colder areas) 3) Age of drivers (middle aged preferable) 4) Personal sale by owner (less hidden information)
@chrisredfield3240
@chrisredfield3240 5 жыл бұрын
Tyres probably keep better in a garage as does paint finish.my car has never done a winter with salt. In the uk 2012+2013 had very mild winters. I bought the car in 2014. (Ex company car for the company i work) i never use the car in snow a ice since ive owned it. It's perfect underneath.
@otamanlvhs
@otamanlvhs 5 жыл бұрын
200k highway miles car vs 50k city miles car.I think most people will always pick 50k one even if it's more expansive.Nobody is even going to take a look at 200k car unless you're giving it out for almost free.
@dawna4185
@dawna4185 5 жыл бұрын
i once bought a corolla with approx 250, 000k for about 4000. CAD. this car was immaculate in all regards. mechanics that changed the oil always made positive comments about it....lasted a long time. sold it for a subaru! lol
@jordanbell4420
@jordanbell4420 6 жыл бұрын
Good solid advice. People fuss over mileage too much. I'd say a smart thing to do is buy the highest mileage car you can get your hands on- a car with 500k miles will have been maintained properly, and has probably been rebuilt at some point.
@1981yama
@1981yama 5 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power and thank you so much for sharing. I purchased a 2010 lexus 460GX for 37,000 mainly for 2 reason 1) it only had 38,000 miles 2) I have no true knowledge is the older modeling are actually safer but I have wrecked several LX and GX models in past in very bad circumstances and thank God have been able to walk away. I could’ve paid $3000 more and purchased The new V-shaped grill GX that was only three years old with 48,000 miles. A lot of close family and friends said I made a really bad mistake but I don’t care what others think I just rather go with my gut feeling as far as my wife and son being safe. I hope I made the right choice because after the recital hail storms the Lexus was totaled by insurance. I’m gonna have to be making a purchase again so I’m still going to try another older model GX or LX.
@loudring6247
@loudring6247 5 жыл бұрын
Are you an accident magnet? I don't mean that in a disrespectful way and yeah them Gx and Lx are fantastic choices!
@albertosamaniego2476
@albertosamaniego2476 5 жыл бұрын
2010 to 2013 GX 460 looks better than the new ones with that ugly big grill
@artheis1342
@artheis1342 6 жыл бұрын
You are so right. I bought a 2005 Jaguar XJ8 five years ago with 108K miles. I knew the car was driven all highway miles and used only for business. I now have 150K miles on it and almost 5yrs later it runs very well because I live in the country and drive long highway miles with little stops. She still runs very well.
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 6 жыл бұрын
I should hope so. 150,000 is not high mileage.
@jrea424
@jrea424 5 жыл бұрын
I have 130k miles on my car and its 6yr old... lots of motorway miles I bought it at 3yr old with only 12k Cars need driving, they hate being stood its not good for them.
@mucdoc
@mucdoc 5 жыл бұрын
Ure wrong. Cars dont have feelings.
@GymChess
@GymChess 5 жыл бұрын
@@mucdoc lol
@TopAliGi
@TopAliGi 5 жыл бұрын
Bought my 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3 years ago for 900$ at 250’000 miles, as of today the odometer is at 388’000 miles no major issues regular maintenance and oil changes every 3000 miles. Saved me many monthly stupid payments and never let me down :)
@secretbillionaire463
@secretbillionaire463 6 жыл бұрын
That all depends on what brand of car youre buying. For example, Honda cars are known for being reliable.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 5 жыл бұрын
Toyota!!!!
@germanboy5392
@germanboy5392 5 жыл бұрын
My 90 year old Moms 2008 Corolla has 22,000 miles..that's about 2,000 miles a year but neither city or highway miles...car mostly in garage.....When I go over on weekends I take it for a 40 mile highway run to keep it fresh
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 7 жыл бұрын
The big flaw here is that while Sue's car will have 10X more WEAR than Howard's, Sue's car will also have 10X LESS MILES. Also, a lot of highway miles can be spent commuting in stop and go traffic into a major city. Rush-hour in and out of a major city equates to a lot of idling, braking, accelerating, on the highway -- somewhat similar to being in the city. And let's not forget that unless the car has a clear bra, the font of the highway car is going to look sand blasted with thousands of rock chips. Still, the highway car will have a lot less wear on the seats and a lot less start and burn-off events. But it's not as simple of a trade off as you make it seem.
@gregarioussolitudinist5695
@gregarioussolitudinist5695 7 жыл бұрын
I used to drive 45,000 miles per year. I drove against traffic in the morning and the evening, five days per week. Not everyone works in a city. Some of us are really lucky. That means that this video doesn't have a BIG flaw, just an AVERAGE one.
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 7 жыл бұрын
Gregarious Solitudinist: Most people commute into the city though -- as evidence by gridlock in one direction. I'd say that's more than "average". "Average" would be if the traffic flowed the same in both directions.
@greygolem
@greygolem 7 жыл бұрын
You do understand he did say it's an extreme situation to demonstrate the point. That if you can ascertain the miles are more highway, it's all around better. Which is generally true.
@YourCarAngel
@YourCarAngel 7 жыл бұрын
Sure Sue's car will have less miles. The real difference is that when you are buying a car you will get Howard's car at a steep discount because of the miles but without the wear and tear per mile than Sue's car. That's where the trade off pays off. Kelley Blue book does not ask "Are they easy highway miles or hard city miles?". The valuation guides cannot take that into account on their algorithms, but you can. That's what makes all the difference.
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 7 жыл бұрын
Show Me What I Need To Know I would rather buy a 5 year old car with 50,000 city miles than that same car with 80,000 so-call hwy miles.
@jochenstacker7448
@jochenstacker7448 5 жыл бұрын
What people also fail to take into account is maintenance beyond oil changes. A car with over 200000 miles could have had brakes, shocks, clutch and the exhaust system replaced. And a car with less than 100000 could have none of that replaced. You'd pay more for the car with lower miles and then have to replace all the above. I'd buy the better maintained, high mileage car anytime. But only once you know for definite what's been replaced. Backed up by receipt for parts and/or invoice from the garage. A half-assed "yeah, sure, she's had all that done", walk away.
@OdinsFerrari2178
@OdinsFerrari2178 7 жыл бұрын
Would you consider posting a video on flood damaged cars and how to spot them? With the hurricanes this year it is a concern. Thank you.
@franksvatek1873
@franksvatek1873 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Murphy, I would think that you can begin by being VERY suspicious of late model cars in the Northeast and the Northwest of the US. Very few floods in those areas and lots of cars available about six months after the floods in the Midwest and South; every year. Lift the carpets and look and smell for mildew. Pop the inside door liners off and measure how deep the water is in the bottom of the door (I'm NOT kidding). Why is there a new (albeit cheep) battery in a two year old (or newer) car with less than 30,000 miles? Hint, electricity and water don't mix. By the way, the newer the car the more electricity it uses and the more things are going to go bad because of water. And then there is the standard and simple rule for all automotive transactions; the dealer is going to lie to you. If you happen to be young, female, black, or all of these then by all means find yourself an old, cranky white dude you can trust to do all your negotiating for you. Be nice and buy him a dinner at a decent local restaurant (no chains please). He will probably save you more than 10 times the price of that dinner and if he's enjoying the meal he'll be less cranky with you than usual.
@lesfox2010
@lesfox2010 6 жыл бұрын
Most cars are actually written off once flooded because they are uneconomical and infeasible to repair properly. A VIN check should show if it had ever been written off. Some unscrupulous people will move the cars well away from the flood zones to hide their origins. I assume this would happen with cars from the rust belts moved to drier areas for the same reason. The trick here is to inspect the vehicles for tell tale signs and to get yourself educated to what these signs are if you are inspecting it yourself. It is not too hard to learn, quite often these signs are quite obvious once you know what you are looking for.
@jamie49868
@jamie49868 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a car and noticed a lot of newer cars from Texas a few months after the floods. I was wondering the same thing. Just another reason to buy new from a local dealer.
@Deliquescentinsight
@Deliquescentinsight 5 жыл бұрын
This makes great sense, it is how hard the car has had to work, a car used for long journeys as opposed to start/stop driving is going to be in better condition, true.
@JamesHill-cj4fn
@JamesHill-cj4fn 6 жыл бұрын
Give me a low mileage car any day,modern engines and oils are great ."Owned my own garage business for 40 years"
@One-Crazy-Cat
@One-Crazy-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
James Hill yes my thinking as well. Modern technology has changed many problems associated with cold start for sure.
@kunschner
@kunschner 5 жыл бұрын
Year and a half ago I bought a 2003 Golf TDI with 440,000km from original owner. He commuted 200km a day and had the vehicle dealer maintained, in the shop every 8,000km. Unfortunately it was neglected at least the last couple years he had it. It wouldn't go above 80 though, found out it was a clogged intake from the EGR, after clearing it out it woke up the car completely then I replaced a few regular maintenance items to get it safetied. Car has been great and I went with the same principles here.
@waynebrown7310
@waynebrown7310 5 жыл бұрын
No sir! Do not worry about blinkers. That would be saved because noone uses blinkers. The blinkers might seized up due lo lack of use..😁😁
@veganmikedizzle4303
@veganmikedizzle4303 5 жыл бұрын
Use blinker fluid.
@urbanpeltier1622
@urbanpeltier1622 5 жыл бұрын
Never liked that term blinkers. eyes blink, not lights God dammit!
@GUITARTIME2024
@GUITARTIME2024 5 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@tomstickland
@tomstickland 5 жыл бұрын
I bought an immaculate 5 year old car with 90,000 miles on it. It was a corporate vehicle that was used for long motorway trips I think. I reached 245,000 miles when it started to burn a lot of oil. Until then it had been very reliable with only an alternator failure ever stopping me.
@neillawrence4198
@neillawrence4198 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 70+ years old in the state of Maine. I have traded or taken (junked) at least 10 cars in my life. All were running fine, all had to be taken off the road because of either rusting thru body panels, or rusted frame or structural parts underneath the vehicle. The f'n state of Maine should give me a new car before I die!!!! From November thru March you drive in a cloud of dust and salt if the road is dry, or a wet slushy mess.
@bluefishbeagle1
@bluefishbeagle1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil, no sympathy here , you've had 70 years to move to Alabama and didn't, you must like eating salt. LOL
@neillawrence4198
@neillawrence4198 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my doc says I need to cut back! We've had 30+ inches of snow in the last two weeks. It's melting fast, we'll soon be into mud season, quickly passing into the black fly season that will last until the end of June. Oh well.........I love the New England good weather days, all 15 of them.
@justinlynch6691
@justinlynch6691 5 жыл бұрын
This is important for two types of people: people planning on driving their vehicle into the ground for years and years, and people buying a cheap vehicle end of life. People don’t buy high mileage vehicles, period. If you’re turning your car over in 2-4 years and you have high mileage, good luck selling it. Liquidity of an asset is very valuable and often overlooked.
@williamlee7037
@williamlee7037 5 жыл бұрын
So don't buy a city car, get a country car.🤠
@johndough23
@johndough23 5 жыл бұрын
Mine's called a Town and> Country right on the name plate, I am screwed I guess.
@darthdarthbinkss
@darthdarthbinkss 4 жыл бұрын
@@johndough23 It's a Chrysler so you're probably screwed regardless
@joeygagliardi7380
@joeygagliardi7380 5 жыл бұрын
This is the 2nd video I have watched of yours, and have learned more in this time that I have known for years. This, I find to be a Awesome Channel due to the cost of cars today,, and all the Salesmen who don't care about the Customer.. Just Subbed,, and thanks for your Channel and Video. Here learning in 2019
@fradaja
@fradaja 5 жыл бұрын
What about ponytail Pete ?
@jessicalt4121
@jessicalt4121 5 жыл бұрын
fradaja oh my god you just made me laugh. . Ha!!
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Here in the UK buyers are obsessed with low mileage cars. To them a car with 100k is ready to be scrapped. Stupid! My Volvo V50 has just clocked 150k and it’s in perfect condition pretty much.
@2003evodave
@2003evodave 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen cars in London sit in nonmoving traffic for hours and hours not racking up miles/kilometers, so running time and miles are both important. Another point I want to make is many modern vehicles sold today in America have run time hour meters, lifetime fuel average and lifetime average MPH. These can tell you how a vehicle was used. This is important information for resale. Case in point I bought at auction for a ridiculously low price an 18 months old 3/4 ton work truck. It had 101,000 miles (not kilometers) on the odometer but when I went into the computers drive history the average mph was over 50. When I look deeper figured this truck was used in average over 260 miles per day at a running speed of 55-70 mph for most of its operating hours. The paint and body looked great, the pedals, floor coverings, seats, steering wheel and all other controls looked like new, hell the truck even still smelled new. Next I found its original documents which showed a small city in the middle of a very large flat and low population desolate farming area, plus this truck was leased to a satellite dish company. Now it all made sense. This unit was driven at good and uninterrupted average speeds for many miles daily and well maintained. Instead of making my normal 10-20% profit I made 100% on my investment when I resold this truck to a local business man needing a low dollar only occasional use delivery vehicle. After I was able to show documented proof of its history and past ownership who he confirmed with he was happy to get such a good looking vehicle for such a low cash price. And yes I am a used vehicle salesman.
@rocketwitron8148
@rocketwitron8148 7 жыл бұрын
Your cold start theory is wrong. The curry driver will have to go to work the same number of days as the highway drivers. So the cold start count would be the same but in the end the City car would have less miles.
@YourCarAngel
@YourCarAngel 7 жыл бұрын
That is why I use Highway Howard and City Sue as my examples who have clear commute patterns and not Courier drivers who have a whole other driving reality.
@bluefishbeagle1
@bluefishbeagle1 6 жыл бұрын
Over the road truckers run their engines up to a million miles and some do not shut them down for a weeks at a time. Today's auto engines can easily to 400 thousand IF the miles include long mileage runs.
@danielmace406
@danielmace406 6 жыл бұрын
If Highway Howard took 100 trips, his mileage would have 5,000 miles on his car rather than 500. In the vid, he's demonstrating why miles are a poor measure of wear on an engine, but rather cold starts do more damage.
@jamie49868
@jamie49868 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, you start your car in the morning (that's 1) drive and drive to work. You start your car in the afternoon (that's 2) and drive home. How is Howard having less cold starts than Sue when driving to and from work? Now Howard drives a couple of miles to the highway, hits a couple of red lights/stop signs, drives 45 miles of open highway, get off and hits a couple of more rl/ss on his final couple of miles to work. City Sue hits several rr/ss on her way to work, pretty much the same amount, but with 45 less miles of wear and tear. How is Howards commute better on his car than City Sues? The real question is after 5 years when Howard has 126,000 miles on his vehicle and City Sue only has 12,600 miles (remember it's a round trip), which one is more valuable? I wonder if I can sell this crap about Howards being better to the dealers?
@dstblj5222
@dstblj5222 6 жыл бұрын
But how much less would a car with ten times the miles go for
@joediblasio1846
@joediblasio1846 6 жыл бұрын
Also I would just like to add... EXHAUST systems are designed to drain into the muffler where there are 2 small holes in them, one on the inlet and one on the outlet, for condensation to run out in case of short bursts of driving. Grandmas car didn't have that back then.
@publicadvisor6952
@publicadvisor6952 5 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to think about the future just STOP YOUR CLOCK
@Tony-Tequalla
@Tony-Tequalla 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. After buying two used cars in the past and getting reasonable use out of them with various problems, now I only buy new vehicles. Less headaches when you have a few years of warranty cover. Current vehicle has out performed my expectations for the past 10 years and 88000 miles of fun driving.
@maniac32145
@maniac32145 5 жыл бұрын
Most highways have traffic, maybe only if you live in montana or nevada:)))
@worldofrandometry6912
@worldofrandometry6912 6 жыл бұрын
Given a choice of used car, I'm still going to take the low mileage one unless someone can tell me how many cold starts there's been. Used car salesmen will just love this video I think.
@skoal22005
@skoal22005 7 жыл бұрын
Very good video, I can say the information is correct because I've lived it and seen it first hand.
@tamilhoward9708
@tamilhoward9708 5 жыл бұрын
even if the granny car is in the country, the same principles apply. I contemplated buying my mother's lightly used very low miles garaged 19 year old Toyota Camry but thought about these things mentioned in your video. Started adding up potential problems because our driving use is completely different and I nixed the idea. Looking at a highway miles 9 year old Toyota Highlander Hybrid now. Love these videos!
@gdsumner1
@gdsumner1 5 жыл бұрын
Howard marries Sue now hes screwed...lol
@FrancoCastro
@FrancoCastro 5 жыл бұрын
In my experience also city driving put more stress in parts like cv joints, some bearings, breaks, etc. There are more bumps and potholes in the city than in a highway.
@351WINCHESTER
@351WINCHESTER 6 жыл бұрын
Stop & go driving will wear out a vehicle much quicker than highway miles.
@shecat1964
@shecat1964 5 жыл бұрын
Most hyway commutes in major city areas are nothing but stop and go.
@coolbreezeNYC1
@coolbreezeNYC1 14 күн бұрын
@@shecat1964 depends on time of day...middle ofthe night roads are empty.
@jdshadetree3376
@jdshadetree3376 6 жыл бұрын
Finally the first person in the world that understands. As a dealer tech that does a lot of used car inspection. My boss gets so mad when a 20k mile car has problems. The mileage isn’t the problem it’s the age. The dam car is 7 years old!!!!
@Rabi7468
@Rabi7468 6 жыл бұрын
Hi mileage car will need clutch, cambelt, water pump changed which are very expensive. Will buy low mileage car anyday.
@_multiverse_
@_multiverse_ 5 жыл бұрын
A timing belt, clutch, water pump ect will wear much more quickly than the same parts accelerating once then sitting at a certain rpm on the highway..... You do realize that the clutch doesn't wear when driving highway but does wear engaging over and over again in the City....
@noelaguirre7104
@noelaguirre7104 5 жыл бұрын
Hypothetically speaking: Low mileage car $20,000.00 same car high mileage $6000.00 Cambelt could set you back $600.00 Clutch $600 water pump $250.00 grand total $ 1450.00 The key here is knowing how to use a 99c basic calculator. For some a low mile car will work but when you crunch the numbers price difference+interest+ sales tax?
@f42un84u
@f42un84u 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong...manufacturer maintenance schedules are based on estimated type of use. If type of use is modified, so must maintenance schedule. Less wear = extended maintenance intervals. Get it?
@richterman3962
@richterman3962 5 жыл бұрын
That's only 300 bucks not including ur $100 refund on core charge, do it urslef. That stuff easy
@richterman3962
@richterman3962 5 жыл бұрын
@@noelaguirre7104 if ur clutch is and water pump is over $100 ur getting ripped off at the parts store
@timnoble4137
@timnoble4137 5 жыл бұрын
Complete and valid engineering sense. Thanks, Greg.
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