Autocal on JVC DLA-NX7 FIXED my JVC NX7 - Colors Were Off BIG TIME!

[@roncline7964]

Just wanted to thank you Michael for this video. I’ve my RS-2000(NX7) for over a year. I knew about the auto cal program but I was never sure it was worthwhile or how complicated it was. I did the autocal this weekend and all I can say is wow! The difference it made is stunning. It’s most noticeable in reds and skin tones. I thought my JVC looked amazing before but this took it to another level.

[@Youthman]

My exact same experience. Awesome to hear your JVC is looking better than ever!

[@nicko880]

This is exactly why we made this video! Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@rajithskumar]

This will be one of my favourite videos of your channel.Honestly I dont know nothing about video calibration stuffs.Today I Learned something useful about it.😀.Thank you for enlightenment 😊.

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly. Glad you found the video helpful

[@Rairun]

Thank you for the great tutorial. How would the process change if one used Madvr tone mapping for HDR?

[@adamjj85]

Great video Youthman and Nick! So great to see that we can get a good automatic projector calibration for a reasonable price! This is going on my list for my upcoming theater build!

[@HoiA1980]

Thanks for this. I have been using calibrator extraordinaire Chad B to calibrate my displays for the past several years. I had my NX7 since October '19 and haven't been able to get anything scheduled due to the thing. The SpyderX has been ordered and I will give this a shot.

[@GunnyPhillips]

Glad I found this video again. Perfect timing as I'm about to order the Spyder X Pro to calibrate my NZ8.

[@Davek2sb]

This guy explained calibration and it’s importance better than anyone I’ve seen. This was a great video. 👍 keep up the great work!

[@Youthman]

Thank you.

[@VividTheater]

Nice, I was not aware that JVC has user software for home calibrations. You should have a special segment with Nick, and pick his brain for more tips.

[@hometheaterenthusiast1566]

Wow looks pretty simple to me. I’ll definitely be doing this myself for my RS2000.

[@trentsmith965]

What program did you use to independently test colours etc. I have just run auto cal but would like to see the difference like you did

[@andrewpolak5336]

Another fantastic video as always Youthman. The video before this one (pre/pro) really blew me away in regards to how slick the presentation was. I hate to ask a non-audio question, but can you please let me know what video editing software you use? Your elements and transitions are spot on. I have a home gardening/reno channel that I need to improve on. Cheers.

[@mbranham9270]

GREAT video! Thanks to both of you for this!

[@Youthman]

Thank you for the kind words. It was a lot of fun to make together.

[@LIMuscleBlackdevil]

Wow, thanks for posting this! I'm definitely gonna do this, I'd rather do this than have a pro calibration if it gets you that close. Hell I spend all that time with REW and calibrating the audio, why not take some time and effort into the video as well.

[@Youthman]

I’m very new to video but it seems really straightforward. I’ll be buying one myself

[@onlyvik]

Nice video. But is a Spyder good for gamma? I am told you should avoid spyders and get a X-rite Ipro2 or 3 for a good gamma and color measurement within Autocal software.

[@billhayes5047]

Can't believe I haven't watched this before .. I think it would get a lot more views I you change the title to how to use auto cal on jvc. I'm currently trying to decide on a np5/nz7. Would the same spider be appropriate and setup the same / similar. What a fantastic resource video. I had discounted the idea of the np5 due to dimming and calibration but this would get around that. Fantastic.

[@Youthman]

Thanks for the suggestion I just updated the title

[@princeandroyaltys2478]

Hi guys, great video. You guys don’t understand how much people need calibration on there projector. It really makes this hobby enjoyable when guys like you can help others without going broke lol. I have a quick question but haven’t read thru all the comments so maybe it was already answered but can I do this calibration on my EPSON 5950UB, great job guys, thx.

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately Epson does not have the ability.

[@turtron]

Ordered my NX-5 today. Now I’m even more excited! I am a DIYer and I was not wanting to drop $500+ for professional calibration. Had no idea this existed!

[@Youthman]

Congrats! The NX5 is an awesome projector

[@theatremad9797]

Thanks for posting this. I just joined the N7 club too.I just ordered the Spyder x elite. Will give it a try and post my findings. Also ordered panasonic ub9000 player. Was going to go the pioneer LX500 but no stock in Oz. Keep up the great work Youthman, love the videos.

[@Youthman]

Congrats on the NX7 it’s incredible. I’ve heard great things about the Panasonic UB9000. It should serve you well

[@arafathossain4181]

Wow amazing job at explaining the calibration. Holy Hell, cant believe the difference. Will be doing this in the coming weeks on my rs1000.

[@musicman8586]

Excellent calibration video. Can you access the before and after results using the JVC auto-cal menu or do you need a different program for that?

[@reznone6900]

Why did he recommend using the spyder pro and not the elite? I saw the elite is used for projectors.

[@nicko880]

Because the Pro and the Elite are the exact same meter. We are using JVCs Autocal software to do the calibration, which connects to and reads from the meter. The only difference between the Pro and Elite is an artificial software limitation in DataColor’s included calibration software (which for JVC Autocal you don’t use or install at all).

[@chrisj9008]

I am surprised how few vids on projector calibrating there are. Much like REW was for sound, i think this is the next tinkering phase for many of us home theater hobbyists. Would love to see a video guide through doing this on a projector (epson) that don't have auto cal features. And yes, I know I can pay 500 bucks and get a real calibrator in to my home. I can also hire a mechanic to do my cars, repair my house and build my furniture, but even knowing it might me cost me more, its my sanity break for my real job... I like to learn and fiddle with this stuff. Far more satisfaction than just signing the check.

[@SealedOrPorted]

And this was a well done video that hit the highlights of calibration whilst demonstrating the benefits. People with PJs that do not have cal software may choose from a number of programs such as the Spyder used in this video. I use CalMAN with a C6 meter as my older JVC PJ does not have the auto cal built in.

[@davidahn4130]

Wow, I think I need to calibrate my NX9. It looks pretty good to me, but I think I need to do this. Once I finish setting up my A-lens and Harmony Elite, this is next!!!

[@JDG1971]

Youthman this is what we all want. We are more than satisfied with the sound we have. But now we also want the colors to be right. On the surface we can get a fairly good color. But with the automatic it is automatic and that is very easy. So that's going to be my next improvement. As always, thank you for this video. Always fun and educational. Greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht. Peace and love and of course High end home theater.👌👍✌😘😉

[@Youthman]

Thank you Javier. I’m super knew when it comes to video calibration. But I like it when stuff is easy because even I can figure that out LOL

[@JDG1971]

@@Youthman This hobby of Music Equipment speakers Beamer's Screens Cables ETC ... If we can improve some things. Then we do that too. And especially if we can do it ourselves. We learn from that and it is our hobby, which we can enjoy. Great food and a beautiful woman is lovely and wonderful. But our hobby also needs attention. Hihihi OOHH YES.✌👍😉

[@BritishTexan707]

Did this on my new NX7. Bookmarked you vid. Thx

[@leojikkannathara395]

Amazing video. Thanks for sharing this tutorial. I’m definitely trying this out on my RS2000. Will get the SpyderX Pro and give it a spin soon. Thanks Youthman !

[@chrism9976]

This is cool, but isn't the calibration map only through your PC and not the projector? Once you remove the PC from the input, aren't the settings are gone.

[@rmangoba]

Great video. Thanks, youthman and Nick! Question - I have a 2.40:1 scope screen, and it's normally stays in the same 2.40:1 lens memory, since I have a madVR Envy Pro. The Autocal software asks what is the screen size, but it doesn't ask what the screen's aspect ratio is. Do I enter the diagonal of my 2.40:1 screen? Or what would be the diagonal of a 16:9 screen that has the same height (or width) as my 133" 2.40:1 screen (which I think is 140" 16:9 screen)?

[@robertbloss4409]

FYI, "color temperature" for example 6500K from what I understand does not equal 65,000. "K" is a unit of measure that is expressed in Kelvin expressed by the symbol K. K is not a multiplier of the values displayed on the calibration software charts.

[@nicko880]

Yes I meant to say 65 hundred and instead I accidentally said 65 thousand.

[@mattmason4546]

Good evening. Nick - I need help getting the JVC autocal software to work. Keeps telling me "Could not set up LAN connection." PLEASE help.

[@gib6717]

What software is being used for the before and after comparison? And how are you feeding it the data?

[@techcode_man]

What software was used to measure before and after calibration results? That doesn't look like JVC autocal is it?

[@jarodreddig63]

Wow that grey scale was rough but it sure got into shape! Great calibration dude👌

[@Youthman]

Thanks

[@russowens4298]

have a RS1000 with about 300 hours on it and I just bought a spyderx pro. My screen is 100” 16:9, throw is 16’. Low lamp for both SDR and HDR. Iris SDR= 14 HDR= 10 1) If I want to do just a gamma cal. do I have to run two calibration because of the different iris settings? 2) if I do a color cal. I believe I would have to do two calibrations correct? 3) When is the initial file saved after running a calibration or when saving a calibration? Thanks for you help!

[@nicko880]

1) No, there are only 2 gamma tables to calibrate on the RS1000, 1 for low lamp and one for high lamp. 2) Yes you need to do 2 color autocals because iris position 10 and 14 are in different iris calibration table groups. There are 4 color calibration tables for iris groups. 0-3, 4-7, 8-11, and 12-15. And then there are 4 again for the other lamp mode so 8 color calibration tables in total. 3) It's saved after you save your first autocal result to the projector.

[@stephendoherty9598]

Great video, thanks! Any chance you can follow up with a more detailed step by step video? In particular for HDR. Or point me to a guide/video? I plan on getting a spyder and giving AutoCal a go very soon, great to see it seems quite simple.

[@Youthman]

Hi Steven, I will likely be able to down the road when I purchase one myself.

[@stephendoherty9598]

Youthman That would be great, look forward to it!

[@antoinebyrd9278]

Thanks Youthman! Been waiting for this video to drop. Ordering the 🕷️ today!

[@Youthman]

Let me know how your calibration turns out.

[@antoinebyrd9278]

@@Youthman Going to do that this weekend. Did he do a setting for SDR and then another setting for HDR?

[@Youthman]

I believe he said you only have to do one for SDR

[@gordonsato2793]

Great video. How about a follow up on how to ensure that you are calibrating both SDR and HDR? I ran as you suggested but I’m not sure it did both. Also, I had a heck of a time connecting directly to my laptop. Finally gave up and hooked to a wireless access point. Thanks!

[@nicko880]

Well it's not so much that you calibrate modes like that. You just need to understand what Autocal adjusts. It adjusts the base calibration tables of which for an NX7 there are 4 gamma tables, and 16 color tables. The combinations for the tables are as such: For gamma, it's the 4 combinations of the 2 bulb modes, and 2 color filter modes. For color, it's the same as above, except add in the combination of 4 manual iris ranges. The ranges are 0 to -3, -4 to -7, -8 to -11, and -12 to -15. So you just need to make sure that the base gamma and color table have been calibrated for the mode settings you are actually using. So lets say for SDR you use low bulb, no wide filter, and iris -5. Easiest to autocal that would be to set your projector into a mode that uses those settings. So just use your SDR mode settings as we lists, and run a gamma+color autocal. Then for HDR lets say you use high bulb, frame adapt HDR, wide filter on, and iris position 0. Since you are using a different bulb mode and a different color filter mode you need a new gamma calibration for this. And you definitely need a new color calibration for this since for the same reason, but also because the iris is in a different group range. You can;t calibrate in Frame Adapt mode, but you don't need to. Simply set up a mode that uses this combination of settings and it will become calibrated. So set up a User2 mode for example with high lamp, BT2020 Wide color profile (this engages the wide color filter), and iris position 0 and then run another gamma+color autocal. So now when you go to your actual HDR mode that you use (Frame Adapt) it shares the same base calibration tables that you just calibrated because it shares the same bulb mode, color filter mode, and iris group position as a mode that you calibrated.

[@nedkulic2164]

Thanking you Both for such an extensive step by step explanation. This is SO helpful to many - I just picked up the DLA N7 Projector to replace my Sony VPLHW11000es Projector.

[@Youthman]

Glad the video was helpful Ned

[@nizaralzaidani4194]

Thanks guys. Great work. Appreciate. I have jvc Dla-rs55e model, can I use the same software and same sensor? If not, which software? Sensor? Should I use? I really appreciate your work and help 🙏 Thanks a lot

[@LifeofBliss]

That's pretty cool! Easy DIY calibration... Colors look MUCH better man

[@webuserish]

what software/hardware had been used for taking the independent measurements' comparisons of the pre/post calibration especially the colors, gamma etc... ? Doesn't AutoCal have any comparison features pre/post the calibration to measure them?

[@nicko880]

Autocal does not have comparison features. I used HCFR which is a completely free full-featured calibration suite: sourceforge.net/projects/hcfr-2019/ I used an i1 Pro 2 spectrophotometer to do the before/after comparison measurements.

[@webuserish]

@@nicko880 thanks a Lot for the valuable info, i will give a try.

[@webuserish]

@@nicko880 why did you have to use the open source HCFR software separately for independent color measurement doesn't the ` i1 Pro 2 spectrophotometer` which u had used come bundled with the color measurement feature similar to what you did in the video?

[@nicko880]

@@webuserish As far as I know no. The X-Rite software is for automatic display calibration and generating .icc profiles for the operating system's color management system. This doesn't give you all the measurement data output for comparing before and after calibration state. Plus I know how to use HCFR and it's great and does everything you would ever need for calibration measurements. I have never used the X-Rite software.

[@webuserish]

@@nicko880 thank you.

[@jumbonosich]

Cool guide ... I have done all the steps...calibrating in high bright lamp the result is a burned image and a so low brightness image in every color profile ... lamp has 1000h working time . Any suggestion? TKs for the help ( ps i think someone deleted my initial .INIT backup :( )

[@brothergrubenski2603]

Did you manage to resolve this ? I did mine and it came out great. Was you spider X defective?

[@jorgebetancourt1561]

Been looking for a video like this for 3 years.. Thanks for posting, thank you..

[@Youthman]

Glad to help

[@jorgebetancourt1561]

@@Youthman Yes thank you.. Wanted to ask would the spyder pro x work with jvc640?

[@nicko880]

@@jorgebetancourt1561 No, you need to find a Spyder5 for the rs640.

[@godofwar0312]

Great Video ! it helped me out a lot .. The Netflix symbol was orange until I calibrated using the spyderX .. now it is RED like how it is on my TV. SDR content is calibrated and it is making a lot of difference in skin tones and colors. Tried the same for BT.2020 for HDR content ,But had a question regarding frame adapt HDR , this profile cannot be calibrated , does this mean it already has good color gamut ?

[@godofwar0312]

Thank you Nick you’ve answered my question in the other comment.. Youthman like always best content and very useful information..

[@splatman2]

Great video youthman as always. A small correction it's D65 K for Kelvin. And not 65,000 and would also be known as D6500 color temperature.

[@nicko880]

Haha yeah I realized after watching this back that I misspoke and said 65 thousand. At least you can still see the correct number on the screen of 6500.

[@UmeshKumar-ux8ig]

Great video Youthman and Nick! I am contemplating between the NX7 vs the new Sony 715es. Does the Sony provide similar options to calibrate from a DIY standpoint? I was leaning towards the Sony as people rave about their cinematic experience. Any recommendations, Youthman?

[@nicko880]

Unfortunately Sony doesn’t have an end user autocal software. IMO it’s a big plus for JVC. For a Sony calibration you will have to perform a manual process, adjusting the various calibration menus in the projector. Fortunately Sony has great calibration controls included.

[@UmeshKumar-ux8ig]

Nicholas Oldroyd : Thanks a lot! Between, really cool work on the 4D experience you created and youthman shared. 👌

[@sajjadeliyas2248]

Could kindly advise if this type of calibration can be achieved with sony VW360ES? What software and hardware will be required

[@nicko880]

There is no automatic calibration (autocal) software for Sony projectors. You would need to perform a manual calibration.

[@cigarobsession]

I’m glad you took my advice after you got the jvc! I knew the difference would be huge for you!

[@Youthman]

Was definitely a significant improvement.

[@AblazeGroupBI]

Hey... Bryan knows good theater, as well as good cigars!

[@cmdoggy24]

I was going to get the Epson but keep seeing recommendations that the JVC is much better. Is it night and day difference? I’ll spend the extra money if it’s a significant difference but not if it’s subtle

[@Youthman]

It’s definitely a significant difference. I’ve owned two Panasonic and an Epson prior to my JVC. It’s gorgeous

[@clintcordero]

I have the same projector with an acoustically transparent screen. Could I still use this method to calibrate or would the perforations in the screen throw off the spiderxpro that is only 1 foot away? I believe 7 to 8 feet away is focal distance to where the perfs become invisible to eye per screen innovations. Any ideas?

[@realdarthplagueis]

Great video! To what degree can you trust the accuracy of something like the Spyder X? Wouldn't that also need to be calibrated against a reference / high quality meter?

[@Youthman]

To what degree can we trust the accuracy of a reference / high quality meter?

[@realdarthplagueis]

@@Youthman I think to a higher degree. Those meters are several thousand dollars. The problem with the low cost colormeters are that they tend to drift in accuracy over time, and needs recalibration (at least, that's what I have heard).

[@marcinbartosik9428]

Great video as allways. That will be next thing on the list. Right now I have just orderd UMIK1 and will play with my speakers. And I have a question. There is a lot of materials showing how to EQ your subs, or fronts. What about the back side and atmos speakers should we do something with them as well? Best regards

[@Youthman]

Most use a miniDSP 2x4HD to EQ and Time Align their subs. Lower frequencies are typically where your issues are.

[@williamdepalma8349]

Just wanted to thank you guys for this tutorial. Inspired me to get a SpyderX and do my own calibration on my RS2000. Did this 5 minutes ago, could not have gone smoother and I doubt that I destroyed anything. Image looks great but that is probably confirmation bias. I only did a gamma adjustment. After all the very negative back and forth on doing color I skipped it. But of course, now I am wanting to go further. I am assuming that the file saved to my documents folder is both the original gamma AND color even though I have not touched color. Asking in case I go the full Monty and don’t like it. Do I restore to that first original file? Great tutorial

[@nicko880]

The file with Init in the name is the stock calibration settings. You can restore it at any time. I really think you get better results than stock with a Spyder. The red is just so low on the NX projectors out of the box.

[@mikaeljohansson5686]

Thanks for a great video. But I wonder what my settings should look like in N5, if I want to calibrate both sdr / hdr in low lamp mode at the same time? If I have Iris in different position, two calibration? Thanks Mikael

[@nicko880]

Just run an autocal with the projector in each iris and lamp mode combination that you use for SDR and HDR.

[@mack4477]

Damn! Now you’ll have to rewatch EVERYTHING

[@Youthman]

Is that a bad thing?

[@mack4477]

Youthman Not at all sir

[@SurajKumar-AskMe]

@@Youthman When I bought my first HT projector a few years back, I watched all my 80's & 90's favorites all over again and man! It was a treat in itself. Wish I knew about the in home calibration before, the experience would have been even better!

[@strobe9]

At 10:09 he says that out of the box, it is at 89% of color coverage. Does he mean rec709 or DCI-P3?

[@nicko880]

rec709 mode was only reaching about 89% coverage before calibration. What autocal does is measures the projector in native bulb mode and it "carves out" a brand new custom color gamut from that much wider native gamut and it was able to create a 100% coverage rec709 color gamut which it then sets as the projector's new rec709 gamut. The same thing happens for BT2020 color gamut used for UHD content. Autocal calibrates all that for you. The NX7 reaches about 94% P3 without the color filter and I think like 110% or so with the wide filter.

[@strobe9]

@@nicko880 Thanks for the info and straight from the man himself too!

[@samo8204]

What a difference! Does this apply to the ultra short throw projectors as well?

[@nicko880]

All projectors can benefit from a calibration. In general, projectors need more calibration than TVs. But only JVC has this autocal feature.

[@hanshenrik9870]

There have been some negative experiences with the uniformity of the JVC DLA-NX7, ie. how uniform are the colors in different parts of the picture, large contrast variations in corners and left and right of center etc. Did you check this in your calibration and what was your results? And do you experience any bright corners or variation in colors in different parts of the picture? I want to buy the NX7 myself, but apparently the large tolerances the JVC NX7 provide seem to be a big issue and not just for single (maybe defective) units

[@nicko880]

I've seen 7 NX units and none of them had any of these problems that I noticed during calibration or usage FWIW.

[@hanshenrik9870]

@@nicko880 Thanks for your feedback and good to hear you have not seen this issue. I am referring to this thread www.avforums.com/threads/jvc-n5-rs1000-n7-rs2000-nx9-rs3000-factory-tolerance-and-issue-discussion-for-owners.2257217/ It would be nice to get your contribution there also as someone not having seen any issues.

[@nicko880]

Hans Henrik, yeah I am quite active on that thread since the beginning. My username is SirMaster on AVS.

[@fastminivan]

Dangit! Now I want a jvc projector just so I can do this lol. I mess with my epson alot, this would be awesome to do and get “perfect” calibration for a small cost. Does this only apply to the nx7 or even the nx5? Awesome video as always!

[@nicko880]

This applies to any LCoS JVC in the last several years.

[@fastminivan]

Nicholas Oldroyd ahh ok ok, then this makes my decision easier :)

[@chrisvanover7817]

So if you don't have a JVC projector and want to use it on another projector or a TV does the company that makes the Spyder Pro have software similar to the JVCs?

[@nicko880]

I would recommend using free software called HCFR and DisplayCAL for calibrating other displays. Autocal is strictly a JVC feature and no other projector brands that I know of offer anything similar. But also if you are doing manual calibrations, I would look at an X-Rite meter such as an i1 Display Studio or i1 Display Pro Plus as they are more accurate and more flexible for general calibration. The main reason to use the Spyder here is because it is the only colorimeter compatible with JVC autocal.

[@dakeved]

Great video! Simple setup snd easy to follow along. Is there a similar software I can use for the Epson 6050ub?

[@nicko880]

No, there is nothing like this for Epson or frankly any other projector. One of the big benefits to JVC IMO.

[@darthsquider8586]

Nick mentions that the Spyder X Pro can be used for both color and gamma in this video but reading the JVC autocal discussion over at avscience, they mention that the X Pro cannot be used for color with the new V1.12 version of the autocal software. Only gamma can be calibrated and that the i1 Pro 2 or the older Spyder 5 series should be used for color. Would we be able to get Nick to verify this please?

[@nicko880]

The Spyder5 is not supported at all anymore with the v1.12 update. You can use the SpyderX for both gamma and color. Some people prefer not to use the SpyderX for color since it is not as accurate as the much more expensive i1 Pro 2 meter. It doesn't mean the SpyderX doesn't work. In all my experiences the SpyderX is far better than out of the box calibration. But no, it is not quite as accurate as the i1 Pro 2. It's a tradeoff of accuracy vs price. You can buy the cheaper meter and get a good calibration. Or you can also buy the more expensive meter and get a bit more accurate calibration. The only thing that is for sure not accurate (or less accurate than out of the box) is trying to use the i1 Pro 2 for gamma. Don't do that.

[@darthsquider8586]

@@nicko880 Awesome, what a relief! I placed an order for the X Pro after watching this video and am thankful that it'll do the job. Thank you for the quick reply, it's greatly appreciated.

[@JonPeterson]

Do you normally run in a mode that isn’t the “Frame Adapt HDR” mode? I found calibration was awesome when viewing my PC screen on the projector, but my Apple TV looks best in frame adapt HDR. Thanks for the video and for sharing your experience!!

[@nicko880]

You can't actually run JVC autocal in the Frame Adapt HDR mode, but that's not really how autocal works anyays. Autocal calibrates all picture modes, (SDR and HDR) all at once. Really the differences between them is just some math once you have proper measurements. You just need to re-run autocal for each combination of bulb mode, wide color filter, and manual iris position that you will use on the projector, and autocal will end up calibrating each mode since autocal updates the base calibration tables in the projector itself. I.E. the proper white balance applies to all color modes, all gamma curves are mathematically calculated from autocal measurement, and same thing for the different color gamuts. I have measured the other gamma curves and color gamuts after a single autocal and they were all similarly accurate after so long as you remain in the same bulb mode, color filter setting, and manual iris position.

[@JonPeterson]

Nicholas Oldroyd awesome! Thanks! I didn’t realize that it worked for all modes like that. Thank-you so much for the advice!

[@nikolaizinoviev7348]

Youth man What are the best 3D glasses as of now October 2021 for the NX7 projector and do I need the PKEM2 emitter to run them? Please help I have been looking and haven’t found glasses yet

[@Youthman]

I wear corrective lenses so I have never liked 3D glasses. Unfortunately I don’t know anything about 3D for the NX7

[@nikolaizinoviev7348]

All good thank you

[@nicko880]

Yes, you want the PK-EM2G emitter. The glasses I would recommend for the JVC NX models are these: XPAND X105-RF-X1 The JVC glasses that JVC recommends on their site are outdated and do not work very well with the new polarization angle that the NX series uses. www.amazon.com/XPAND-X105-RF-X1-Rechargeable-Bluetooth-Glasses/dp/B00BFO4XSA

[@michaelmock4894]

Cool video, shouldnt you in your light controlled room rather have calibrated for a 2.4 gamma instead of 2.2?

[@nicko880]

You can, i’ve found most people seem to like 2.2. But autocal actually calibrates every gamma. It flattens your gamma curve appropriately and then you can simply select each gamma value in the projector menu and they will all be similarity accurate after calibration.

[@Youthman]

I wish I knew 1/100th of what you know Nick. 🤣

[@shawnwinter4415]

Hey Youthman and Nick I’m a little late but thought I would see if I can get an answer. I’ve trying to calibrate my nx7 for weeks now. Rec709 seems quite good, but bt2020 always ends up grey and washed out!!! I’ve tried everything, I really could use some help! Thanks in advance. Help!!!

[@Youthman]

Nick would be the best one to advise you on this.

[@shawnwinter4415]

@@Youthman how can I get a hold of him?

[@Youthman]

Wait to see if he replies here

[@shawnwinter4415]

@@Youthman Thanks.

[@saftneger2]

If you used the Spyder X, everything is possible - they can be good, they can be bad. I suggest you read the avscience forum regarding this. If you want the color guaranteed to be good, you need an i1pro2. My recommendation is: Restore the Ini-File and do a Gamma-cal only. Adjust brightness and contrast with testpatterns like "Universal test picture "Ladies" Version 2" and you're 90% set. I did a autocal for Gamma with SpyderX and Colors with i1pro2. The gamma was pretty off, the colors were off just a tiny bit - with that knownloedge, I wouldn't have bought the i1pro and settled with Spyder and Gamma-cal.

[@taxi615]

Does calibration program come with the spyderX ? Asking for a non JVC projector

[@nicko880]

A calibration program for computers comes with the SpyderX. The calibration program for JVC projector is downloaded for free from the JVC website.

[@adammasc8259]

Can this calibration process be performed with Ultra Short Throw projectors? Can this software be used for other brands, or only JVC products?

[@Youthman]

It can definitely be used for other products, the question is does your product support it. Like JVC has software built into their projectors that can take the data that is measured from the SpyderX and use it to adjust settings within the projector

[@jaxonve7307]

Hi Would be fun if you could have the chance to do a comparison betwin the RS2000 and the Sony vpl-vw715es Projector..😊

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately I do not have a contact for Sony

[@jaxonve7307]

@@Youthman ok, cant be every where..😅 have you seen it and what do you think about it if you have..?

[@Youthman]

I have not had any experience with Sony projectors.

[@jaxonve7307]

@@Youthman Ok, thanks for answear..😊

[@johnggraves]

Youthman, great stuff. Congrats on being featured in Widescreen Review. Regarding JVC AutoCal for the NX7 (or similar) do you still run both Gamma and Color using the Spyder X Pro? Some of the veteran users over at the AVScience forum recommend only using the Spyder for Gamma. How do you feel about this?

[@shaolin95]

Yes the Spyder is not very good for color so ideally you use spyder5 for gamma and i1 pro 2 for color

[@ThePaulromi]

Absolutely great demo! Would love if you can do a video explaining how to best use JVC’s new firmware on their projector’s.

[@Youthman]

Thanks. I haven’t updated mine yet

[@npmik666]

Is there any software and hardware to calibrate projectors without this feature? I would really like to calibrate it myself but not sure how. Any ideas?

[@nicko880]

Well to calibrate any projector you would use a colorimeter. In general I would recommend the X-Rite i1 Display Studio or i1 Display Pro Plus. There is no autocal software for anything other than JVC, so you will have to calibrate manually by measuring test patterns with the colorimeter and adjusting the calibration controls on the projector. For this I personally like to use the free software called HCFR. But you will certainly have to learn some things about how to manually calibrate your video, similar to learning how to use REW and miniDSP to calibrate your audio.

[@supernovamoore6175]

Did you calibrate HDR 10 high lamp mode, as well as frame adapt hdr?

[@nicko880]

Yes, I calibrated frame adapt HDR. I just stuck to SDR in the video because it’s common and simpler to show and explain.

[@gufiaito69able]

@@nicko880 does this work for the oled c9?

[@spencerbigum1309]

The software I downloaded from JVC wouldn’t let me use the frame adapt HDR picture mode. It said I had to select another one. I did that and tried to make a custom profile, but the frame adapt default picture mode still looks better than my custom user profile....

[@supernovamoore6175]

Spencer Bigum Gregg Loewen calibrated mine, and my hdr-10 mode looks better than my frame adapt mode.

[@1psxpat]

wow, looks so easy. Can I use this method for Sony 4K projector?

[@nicko880]

No, this autocal software is only for JVC. No other projector has an autocal feature, and covering a manual calibration process would take some background understanding and an hours long video that would take several days to shoot.

[@murraythompson5649]

Thank you Youthman, I just watched the video as it was posted on the JVC NX thread on avsforums. However after I posted a reply some guys are saying the spyder x pro isnt as good as the iPro2 as they say it doesnt do colour, yet your video does say it does colour and the specs also say the spyderx pro does colour. Can you comment please as I want to buy one or the other.... Its easier for me to buy the spyderx pro as they are available in NZ and are alot cheaper than the i1Pro. Thank you again...

[@Youthman]

Hey Robert I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’m not video calibration expert. All I can share is the results that Nick was able to achieve using the SpyderX. He has been using it for many years and also has some of the higher in calibration tools. The point of the video is the show that you can get good results with the SpiderX. If you look at the comments on this video, you will see many others that purchase it and also had great results. Unfortunately I cannot speak on the i1Pro as I have never used it myself.

[@murraythompson5649]

@@Youthman thats good enough for me, I have just bought a spyderX pro, lets see if I too get a better result on my NX9. Thank you. ....BTW how does one do a separate calibration for HDR with the filter in?

[@nicko880]

Robert Thompson, yes in my experience you get better results than stock, even with a SpyderX meter. If you don’t think it looks better after you can always undo the calibration settings. To calibrate for HDR with the filter in simply run the autocal process again with the projector in a mode that has the filter enabled like BT2020 wide color profile. You should be able to do user1, BT2020 Wide, 6500K, Gamma 2.2. This would be acceptable to calibrate your projector for HDR with filter mode. The color profile is called BT2020 wide after the 3.50 firmware update. Before the 3.50 firmware its just called BT2020 which always uses the filter.

[@Bone-6669]

How are you enjoying the NX7, I’ve been waiting on mine that’s backordered and wanted to see if it’s everything you expected?

[@Youthman]

Absolutely love it! Use it several times a week. 4K movies look stunning and since I bought my PS5, I’ve really been enjoying gaming on it

[@Bone-6669]

Thanks, I can’t wait to get mine!

[@scottcurl8824]

For some reason, I cannot connect the laptop to the rs2000. Using cat5 cable, all setting should be good but when I click “connect” it says connection “NG”. Not sure what that means. Might have to return the spyderX and use my color blind eyes to find settings! JVC will NOT support regular consumer, only pro installers. ‘

[@nicko880]

If you connect the JVC to your laptop directly, you will need to assign an IP to your laptop manually. See here: pureinfotech.com/set-static-ip-address-windows-10/#static_ip_settings_windows10 And follow either the "Control Panel" or "Settings" methods. To assign the IP manually, look at the IP in your JVC's network settings screen and for your laptop (when following the above instructions) just copy the JVC's IP settings to your laptop, but change the last number of the IP by 1.

[@scottcurl8824]

I feel like I’m close, followed the direction you sent and still get “connect NG” on the setting icon and “could not set up LAN connection. Please try again” on the Calibration icon. LAN cable is good. I’m confused.

[@nicko880]

@@scottcurl8824 It's hard for me to tell what's going wrong from here. All I can suggest is maybe asking for advice in this thread: discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=1850.0 Lots of knowledgeable autocal users there. And you can maybe post a picture of your JVC network settings, Windows network settings, and autocal settings there for us.

[@godofwar0312]

@@scottcurl8824 I had the same issue .. you need go to your network & sharing and follow the steps in this manual that solved it for me page 19 www3.jvckenwood.com/english/download/file/JVC_PCS_manual12_en_v1_00.pdf

[@Celestialrob]

Been doing this for years with my computer monitors for photo editing. Makes a huge difference. You’ve inspired me again for my JVC projector. Thanks!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Robert

[@Celestialrob]

@@Youthman the thanks are all for you :)

[@marcspardello1254]

Do you have to save the projector's original values before you begin an autocal?

[@nicko880]

No, on your first ever autocal run, the software will automatically save the projector's stock calibration data to a file called the INIT file (it has Init in its file name). You can use this to restore the stock calibration at any time. It saves it to the folder you have the autocal software set to use in the autocal settings screen.

[@serge6286]

Does having a grey ALR screen effect the Spyder calibration?

[@Youthman]

I’m not certain. My guess is no.

[@baronzemo78]

Great content! I was hoping you would do more calibration videos. Keep it up.

[@Youthman]

Thank you

[@kristoffer9197]

Sweet Youthman. Does this program and Spyder Pro work with other projectors to? I have a Epson 9300 that needs adjustment. If not, do you know what i can use to cal my Epson?

[@nicko880]

It can, but no other projectors have autocal software besides JVC.

[@kristoffer9197]

@@nicko880 ok. Tnx. I need to look for some options beside hiring a pro.. its just not worth it imo. As you say in video we can do this with some months apart. Paying a pro is for me a one time thing that last max 0.5 lamp life.

[@nicko880]

@@kristoffer9197 Manual calibration is definitely learnable, similar to learning how to use REW and MiniDSP. The free manual calibration tool I recommend is called HCFR.

[@UnLogitech85]

do have the projector on high lamp for hdr and low lamp for sdr or always at high lamp? you have a big screen and i was wondering how it performs

[@Youthman]

I always have mine on High Lamp. I figure I paid for a beautiful image, no reason to limit it.

[@UnLogitech85]

@@Youthman theater optimizer is on high?

[@Youthman]

I’m referring to lamp mode.

[@UnLogitech85]

@@Youthmani get that, which setting do you have on theater optimizer, low,medium or high? It helps for a brighter image in a such a big screen

[@nicochoco03]

Waaow better !!! Calibration is a must ! Great for you!

[@askmatt7283]

Youthman is legit. Not only does he use high end gear, he goes the extra mile to dial it in and get it calibrated. Some of the influencers on KZbin talk big game. Youthman actually delivers. Much respect.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Matt. Just trying to provide value in my content

[@ryanrodriguez70]

Will the spider work on the epson 5050? Also what are your thoughts between the two PJ nx7 and 5050j

[@Youthman]

I had the 5040UB before upgrading to the NX7. No comparison. NX7 has much better color science, ridiculously dark black levels and higher contrast. Add Frame Adapt and ability to Autocal, the JVC is hard to beat. The epson is brighter but at the cost of black levels, and contrast.

[@GiftedToddler]

The Spyder 5 Pro is also listed as compatible with the N series. Would there be a difference between the Spyder X Pro v 5 Pro (other than speed)? Thanks!!

[@nicko880]

The Spyder5 works just as well as the X, but it's hard to find a Spyder5 now. Also the only reason the NX supports both is it's a crossover year for Spyder. The next few JVC models in the coming years will support the SpyderX only, so it's a better buy for the future too.

[@GiftedToddler]

@@nicko880 thanks Nicholas 👍

[@mrdan1210]

Weird, my jvc x7900 wants the Spyder facing the projector and not the screen, why is this one different?

[@Youthman]

I believe Nick said you can do it either way but I’m not 100% certain of that

[@nicko880]

You are using the Spyder5 which is a completely different meter and is designed to read off the lens.

[@ianpeck2719]

I have been trying to calibrate mine with no luck, just cannot connect to the projector with my laptop. Any pointers to make it happen?

[@nicko880]

If you were trying to connect with a wire directly, you will need to set up a manual IP address on both the projector or laptop. It might be easier to connect both the projector and laptop to your router if you can, and then the connection should work automatically.

[@ianpeck2719]

@@nicko880 thanks for your reply, I reached out to JVC and was able to get the problem resolved. Thanks again 😊

[@nicko880]

@@ianpeck2719 That's great that JVC was able to help. I am glad you got it working!

[@con6164]

How does the new 3.5 firmware marry up with the new calibrated settings?

[@nicko880]

The core concept has not changed. To calibrate for Frame Adapt / Theater Optimizer, simply run Autocal with the projector bulb mode, wide color filter, and manual iris in the position that you will use when using Frame Adapt / Theater Optimizer mode.

[@vismantass]

i have jvc N7, and did calibration with spyder x, and i1pro2, results ---> spyder x is not good in colors. i1pro2 is offcourse expensive tool, but makes colors superb on this projector. spyder x is only entry level tool, and he gives you just moderate results,epecialy wrong on colors.gamma is on good side. if you need very acurate colors use i1pro2,he makes gamma and colors ideal. From forums people recomending i1pro2 do not use for gamma, only for colors,but in my experience they are wrong an my tool makes gamma/colors very good . on Jvc calibration is a MUST do ...

[@arshadmalik6869]

Couldn't agree more. Use Spyderx for Gamma 1st and then i1Pro2 (spectrophotometer) for color. I verify the result with ChromaPure & iDisplay Pro 3 (calibrated colorimeter). But for an average user i1Pro2 is a huge investment but it worth the cost for serious video calibration.

[@nicko880]

Arshad Malik have you actually measured a SpyderX sensor vs a reference meter? I have measured a few be reference and they are not terrible. They are certainly better than the stock JVC color accuracy. That’s the whole point here. Improving your JVC color, not necessarily making it perfect. Sure you can spend a lot more to make it near-perfect. But you can spend a little and still make it noticeable better than out of the box.

[@arshadmalik6869]

@@nicko880 I used SpyderX initially for both Gamma and color. The color where not that much off when I verified it with iDisplay Pro 3 (Calibrated with Klein meter) but Saturation was bit more off than I wanted (dE > 3.0). However after using iPro2 the color were calibrated way better with dE < 3.0.

[@nikolalovric6046]

I just ordered the SpyderXPro and plan to run this on my NX-7. What settings need to be adjusted in the projector menus before running the calibration? As I understad it, the dynamic iris need to be set to Manual. What about brightness and contrast settings? I assume these need to be calibrated on the projector before running the Autocal process? And if anything else, please let me know. Thanks

[@nicko880]

Just leave brightness and contrast at 0. Typically you set them later by viewing black clipping and white clipping patterns but in my experience all the NX I have calibrated should normally leave their brightness and contrast controls at 0. There aren’t really any special settings you need to perform an autocal. Just have your projector in the bulb mode, wide color filter mode, and manual iris position that you normally use. You might have to run autocal multiple times if you use both low and high bulb mode or use the wide color filter on (HDR) and off (SDR). Though some people leave the filter off for HDR too for increased brightness. Or if you use different manual iris positions for SDR vs. HDR.

[@nikolalovric6046]

@@nicko880 Thanks! I will get the meter tomorrow so I look forward to testing. I have the iris at -4 with DI at Auto2, for both SDR and HDR, and Low lamp in both modes.

[@nicko880]

@@nikolalovric6046 So you have the same iris position and bulb mode, that's fine. But if you have the wide color filter enabled in Frame Adapt HDR settings then you will need to do 2 autocal runs because SDR has the wide color filter off. You only need 1 autocal run if you have the wide color filter disabled in Frame Adapt HDR settings though. The auto iris does not matter and has to be disabled during autocal anyways. So to do your 2 autocal runs (if you use the wide color filter), you can simply do one run in your normal SDR settings mode. And for the 2nd autocal with filter enabled, since you can't run autocal for Frame Adapt HDR mode, simply use your same SDR mode, but change your color profile to BT2020 (which will enable the wide color filter). Always leave your bulb in low and manual iris at -4 then otherwise. If you ever go to high or change the iris position then you will need to redo the same process.

[@nikolalovric6046]

@@nicko880 Thanks. I look forward to doing this. I dont use the filter at all because I want as much brightness as possible (without going to high lamp since its too noisy imo). I am sure I will have more questions for you once I start things up 😁 Thanks again for talking the time to answer, I appreciate it.

[@nikolalovric6046]

So I run one round for SDR (im using Natural mode for this) and one round for HDR (is this done in HDR10 mode, since calibration can not be done in Frame Adapt picture mode?)

[@zztop7000]

Thanks for sharing this is very important for all JVC 4K owners will this also work on my JVC dla-570r 4K projector?

[@nicko880]

Yes, but you need a Spyder5 meter for that projector rather than a SpyderX.

[@johannesrosholmmygind1513]

@@nicko880 could it not work with a Spiderx, since the spyder5 is to my knowledge discontinued? I would like to do this on my jvc x7500

[@nicko880]

Johannes Rosholm Mygind, no you can’t use the SpyderX with the x7500. Pick up a Spyder5 from AVSForum Classifieds Accessories section. I see a few on there right now for good prices.

[@wolfflinde4888]

Great video. 85% performance? The delta E error were very small VERY impressive result. Looking for calibration equipment for my rs3000 maybe I should try this.

[@nicko880]

I'm trying to be conservative. Visually, autocal gets to very close to what a pro calibration does in my experience.

[@Youthman]

I think he was trying to not offend the professional calibrators LOL

[@cristianburu]

That Spyder is not corrected to a spectro as Autocal does not even support that. So take the color readings with a grain of salt. Probably the color part of the calibration is better to be done with a spectro. Autocal only supports i1 Pro2. Now, some people will tell you thats not a reference spectro.... and the discussion keeps on going. I think 85% is a fair assesment.

[@nicko880]

@@cristianburu Actually autocal does support using a correction matrix for Spyder colorimeters. The option is called 'matrixOfSensor' and is located in the file %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\JVCKENWOOD\Projector Calibration Software *\init.xml

[@cristianburu]

@@nicko880 Sweet, nevertheless this is beyond 99,9% of users will ever use. I will check it, my projector will comes in 3 weeks.

[@lyndonramchatesingh105]

Hey youthman would you be able to try d polk hts12 subwoofer with d power port technology does it make sense

[@Youthman]

I had the opportunity to hear for Polk audio subwoofers at the poke factory and I wasn’t super impressed. Unfortunately Polk audio has never been known for making great subwoofers.

[@nikolaizinoviev7348]

Okay I got my calibratorsetup what picture modes should I calibrate I’m getting error codes on HLG and FILM modes

[@nicko880]

In truth it doesn't really matter what modes you are in when you run the calibration since autocal updates the base calibration tables which all the modes are based on. You just need to have your projector in the correct lamp mode, and manual iris position that you use (as well as the wide gamut filter on or off depending on whether you use it (NX7/9)). I recommend for SDR calibration to set the mode to User1, 6500K Color Temp, rec709 Color Profile, 2.2 Gamma. Then set your lamp to low (or high if you have a really large or low gain screen, this is personal preference on brightness and fan noise). And turn off the automatic iris and set it's position to what you will be using (most people should probably just stick with iris position 0 (full open), but you can lower it if you want a dimmer picture and gain a bit more contrast). Then for HDR calibration, User2, 6500K Color Temp, BT2020 Color Profile, 2.2 Gamma. I recommend high bulb for HDR (if you can stand the fan noise and heat) unless you have a really small screen like ~100", then you might use low bulb for HDR too. For HDR, iris position should certainly be position 0 to get the most light output. A final note for NX7 and 9 is that for color profile you have 2 BT2020 modes. BT2020 Normal and BT2020 Wide. Normal has the wide filter Off, and Wide has the filter on. This filter will increase the color gamut for HDR video at the cost of around 20% brightness. So you can make the decision of whether you prefer brightness, or a bit wider HDR color gamut, and pick the appropriate BT2020 color profile before running your autocal. Then after the calibration is done, you can use User1 mode for you SDR as it was (you can turn on the automatic iris after calibration if you want). For HDR you should turn on the Frame Adapt mode. You can either use the Theater Optimizer settings to set your brightness for the HDR tone-mapping, or you can use the HDR Level setting from -2 to +2 to set your preferred HDR brightness to preference. And don't forget to select the normal or wide color mode for your Frame Adapt HDR settings that correspond to the mode you decided on and ran the autocal for. Hope this helps make sense of it all.

[@nikolaizinoviev7348]

@@nicko880 thank you for your time will do asap I appreciate it

[@nikolaizinoviev7348]

@@nicko880 if my screen is a 163 inch what should I set my theater optimizer size to? My only two options are 160 and 170? Thanks

[@nicko880]

@@nikolaizinoviev7348 Just set it to 160. It doesn't need to be exact, but the closest would be the right option.

[@nikolaizinoviev7348]

@@nicko880 thank you for your quick response 👍

[@guillermomartin8248]

Hey Michael did you do the Autocal with the NZ8?

[@Youthman]

Ryan brought his spectro to calibrate but was having issues with his software so we didn’t get it calibrated. I just used Audio Advice recommended settings.

[@papasango123]

This is awesome!! Is there any auto cal. software available for epson TW9400(UB6050)?

[@Youthman]

I’m not aware of one for Epson

[@rosstee]

Yeah I have an Epson too (TW7300), wish there was software like this available, even though I’m pretty happy with the picture as it is.

[@jeremynorris2889]

@UC7cvYYBYjJ-pE1bzqrmMg6A quick question, I've been using the spyderx for my NX7 for a while now, but recently picked up a X-rite es-2000 for the color just tp play with. do you have a recommendation on the distance from the screen with that meter? same spot as the syderx (12"). Thank you

[@jeremynorris2889]

I'm sorry, the above question is for Nicholas

[@nicko880]

For the ES-2000 I recommend actually setting it up several feet back from the screen. The idea is you can place the meter such that if you were sitting in your main seat, you could draw a line from your eyes to the middle of your screen, and your meter would be placed somewhere on that line. So that the meter is viewing your screen from the same angle that your eyes are. This is because color calibration can be affected by screen view angle slightly (gamma isn't). Also you can ignore the orange box in autocal for meter placement of the ES-2000, you will never get it to fall within the box. But you don't need to. Color autocal consists of reading only 7 patterns, R,G,B,C,M,Y,W all at 100% intensity which are all very bright. Moving the meter closer or farther does not change the brightness reading of the meter since as you move it farther away, you are reading a larger area, so the overall light reading is the same. In fact, moving the meter farther away and thus reading a larger area of the screen helps average out the reading in case your image is not 100% uniform, so you aren't just calibrating for how the color looks in a tiny circle in the middle of your screen. The ES-2000 actually has only like a 3 degree arc, so even several feet back, you are still only reading a couple foot diameter circle in the middle of the screen. The SpyderX has a much, much larger view cone, so you don't want to place it too far away as it will eventually start reading beyond your screen edge which would be bad, and again, when you are using it for gamma the viewing angle has no real affect on the result since gamma is a relative measurement compared to 100% white reading and the relative values should remain the same even at a sharp viewing angle.

[@jeremynorris2889]

@@nicko880 So maybe around 3 or 4 feet from the screen angled up (similar to my eyes as i look slightly up at the screen). I need to make sure it's above the shadow of the meter, correct? I really appreciate you taking the time to provide such a great insight. Thank you very much!

[@nicko880]

@@jeremynorris2889 The nice thing about mounting it back farther is if your projector is ceiling mounted, you shouldn't even have a meter shadow on your screen at all. At least I am usually able to achieve that in most setups that I go to calibrate. But yes, if you can't avoid a shadow, you may need to point the meter up farther from it. Or you can also point it left or right of a shadow too, there would be no difference.

[@jeremynorris2889]

@@nicko880 awesome. Thanks again!

[@amandanovosel6695]

Do you know of a calibration option for the JVC NZ3 PJ?

[@adrianbarac3063]

Thanks for this! Sorry to go a bit off-topic, but have you or anyone here compared the RS1000 (NX5 )and RS2000 (NX7) side by side?

[@johnedel5953]

Love these videos! I looked up the spyderX on Amazon and it states that you'll need the elite model for projectors. You used the pro version , but it worked for you. I have an older jvc (x550r) and it has the same recommendation for the spyder5. Anyone know why the pro version worked for the projector?

[@nicko880]

Because the Pro and the Elite are the exact same meter. We are using JVCs Autocal software to do the calibration, which connects to and reads from the meter. The only difference between the Pro and Elite is an artificial software limitation in DataColor’s included calibration software (which for JVC Autocal you don’t use or install at all).