Youtube's War on Adblock Got Worse

[@Drosba]

I remember when ads in youtube were little banners on the botton of the video.

[@greatleader4841]

the golden days.

[@AMP3083official]

I remember when KZbin did not have ads at all.

[@russellmania5349]

⁠@@AMP3083official I remember when KZbin didn't censor people at all.

[@SHXXYNN]

oh my god you just unlocked a memory. i remember trying to click on it but accidentally clicking on the banner itself or so but wow

[@espresso_cookie-TCG-XYZ]

bruh i still have that am i the only one💀

[@jakemoore5064]

KZbin needs to be taken to court over the fact that they don’t actually check anything they advertise. They regularly have ads that are social security scams, nsfw virus shit, etc. why are they not responsible for those who get scammed?

[@Eleriol84]

Imagine how many people have set up adblock on their grandparents devices for this reason alone since thats the demographic most likely to fall for these kinds of scams. And youtube has no system in place to prevent these ads in the first place and instead rely soley on a report based system which means millions could have seen the ads before action has been taken. Its even worse on Facebook where atleast half of the ads i see on that site seem to be somekind of scam or bogus product.

[@thinksetsoup5790]

That won’t work unfortunately. KZbin is an internet titan. If you do that they will run you out of town with the best lawyers possible and possibly drain you financially. And they know it.

[@MyouKyuubi]

because they have no employees, everything going on at youtube is an automated system, or some kind of AI... No humans work there anymore. :P

[@Banananananananananananaaanna]

@@MyouKyuubime when I lie lmao

[@Dany-z9s]

Uhmmm KZbin does nothing about obvious scam ads even if they are reported.

[@IStealButterdToast]

-Gives us NSFW virus ads -prevents use of adblockers -makes ads play when videos are paused “Why do people hate us?”

[@atomf9143]

KZbin will let thinly veiled NSFW ads onto their homepage for millions to see, but when somebody installs Adblocker or a similiar program THAT’S when a sin has been committed. KZbin’s priorities are so severely skewed it’s insane. They let bad behavior proliferate because it makes them pennies but attack normal users trying to avoid that bad behavior.

[@AdventVFX]

its also really bad for children, I do not trust KZbin algorithms to play ads for children that'll probably promote very sketchy apps or potentially nsfw content if they go into a rabbit hole. I really wish the best for any parent raising a kid in these predatory times with the internet being inescapable.

[@quadgames1334]

I had an argument because someone tried to tell me that those ads are "personalized based on traffic". I always turn off that personalization no matter what and I don't keep my history for very long, how the fuck is this nsfw shit personalized???

[@EDS432]

they never asked why do people hate us

[@Otherface]

Bold of you to assume they ask why people hate them. They don't care. The only thing they would ask is "why aren't we getting money?"

[@lanspectre3417]

What's crazy to me is that in addition to their attack on ad blockers they have at the same time made ads more annoying. They're now longer, the skip button often now has a longer delay before being available, you might have an ad with a 30 second countdown and think "great, I can watch the video in 30 seconds" but then when that ad finishes we get a second 30 second ad. It's also often the same ads over and over again and advertisers that design ads for online platforms tend to subscribe to the "make it annoying and people will remember it" method

[@moonwhooper]

Doesn't even make me want to buy what they're advertising, just makes me hate them

[@lauvcos]

absolutely!! I occasionally go to yt on my switch to listen to music, and have a minute of unskippable ads. makes me wanna throw my switch out the window

[@crazytigerspy9420]

Use google extension script injectors and find an ad block script

[@Lord-Sméagol]

Annoying unskippable ad --> Be sure to NOT buy that product!

[@domz6867]

I just clicked on an 8 minute video, got 2 ads to start, clicked to the middle, instantly another ad. I instantly paused, copied the URL, and went over to a browser which actually works.

[@JackScholten-g5m]

It’s actually crazy to me that they have the audacity to play ads when a video is paused and call it an experience

[@fredrikcarlgren4538]

Yeah

[@Nib_Nob-t7x]

Well it is a experience, just not a good one.

[@GatsuKS]

It's actually crazy that we are still using KZbin with all the alternatives out there.

[@sovereigntoast]

@@GatsuKS like what

[@ئەنیمێ]

We're cooked, need a replacement ASAP.

[@Justap1g]

KZbin is starting to become like one of those sketchy sites you have to get through 30 layers of ads to use it

[@hughjanes4883]

Holy shit your right

[@WhereismyHK416]

Yea its sad.

[@iStayMelee]

9amime be like:

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

Daily Mail be like

[@Dieclownmusic]

pornhub gives me less ads these days

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

Fun fact: even the literal FBI recommends people to use ad blockers because of how often ads are used to commit identity theft and other digital crimes. KZbin and Twitch would rather put their users at risk than lose a tiny bit of money from adblockers.

[@deaconbluezz8827]

I mean, they can just white-list KZbin, I highly doubt KZbin ads will introduce viruses or criminal elements.

[@TojiYourMan]

Man, I hate cringe ads and crypto investment scam ads, but salute to Penguinz0 for calling out KZbin on their own platform.

[@JumperBloX]

I think the reason they're really cracking down on it now is because of profits, specifically their investors. I heard from somewhere that they need to keep growing to keep their investors happy, but because KZbin is practically EVERYWHERE already, they have to find others ways to continue profiting. Take this with a massive clump of salt because I dont even remember where I heard this.

[@bluz0r69]

holy shit lol

[@scrapeddiamonds5776]

the power of greed, amirite?

[@Schilani]

The funniest thing is, that even demonetized videos have tons of ads. So the youtuber gets no money, but the viewers still have to sit through the same ads as any monetized video.

[@GlobnarTheGreen]

Yeah I hate it

[@sgtplop]

​@@GlobnarTheGreen we all do

[@liam_adios]

Agree

[@randomidk6206]

So logically speaking the best solution to this is just to remove ads altogether from the demonetized videos, no?

[@yengidemir]

funnily enough, i have not clicked an ad in my life and im not getting any for month's now

[@citruslad8532]

I started using an adblocker because of the CONSTANT gambling ads that I started getting once I turned 18. I have never been interesting in gambling and it was disturbing to see one ad calling out to gamblers who wanted to "find that flutter feeling". It's just insane to me that ads can so blatantly target addicts like that, its like they don't care for anyone's well-being as long as they get money out of them

[@BlackOrderAlchemist]

I know Google has options to limit gambling and alcohol ads, but let me tell you the one for alcohol does not work. I wish they'd let me limit car ads; I don't even have a license, gdi

[@aricin]

Underrated

[@vinniegret4841]

Well, turning 18 has few perks, and minuses... You loose the attention of PDFs but you gain the attention of Phub-like corpos: "Mmhm fresh blood. Wanna get boned on a hub-like site or waste your life away gambling? Depending on your gender 🙃"

[@mromutt]

@@BlackOrderAlchemist I have tried fully customizing the ad area in google and it does nothing

[@aresez64]

I get these as a minor

[@Hasan-Firas]

-"why are you in jail" -"I used an adblocker on youtube" -"damn, now it's time for our sponsor"

[@fightingasnail]

POV u live in an ancap community:

[@googleyoflolz9930]

instead of getting a new adblocker, let's get a new youtube, ey?

[@williamyoung9401]

I can't even talk about "Courage" 🦁 replacing Chrome without my comment being auto-deleted. Check that out instead.

[@williamyoung9401]

I can't even talk about "Courage" 🦁 instead of Chrome without my comment getting auto-deleted. Try that.

[@Mbxstudios]

-*puts on ear defenders* -"now you can't tell me a sponsor!"

[@runaway7610]

youtube is more hellbent on blocking adblockers than doing something about the bots

[@fredrikcarlgren4538]

Yeah

[@Papabandana]

Because it hurts their money. Of COURSE a greedy corporation would care about even a cent of loss profits.

[@PartyPhil1]

The fact that I’m surprised to see the reply here isn’t a bot speaks volumes.

[@PartyPhil1]

Nvm it is a bot. Also there’s a bunch of bots here now. I hate this website.

[@Staringtrex]

@@fredrikcarlgren4538bot

[@vampiresteef]

the fact that ads on when watching on xbox can last over a minute with 5 unskipable ads and then once you skip the ad it immediately gives you ANOTHER AD even though you just skipped one is actually insane.

[@justanittybittylittlefello4067]

watching youtube on consoles is unbearable

[@Bodacious_Crustacious]

I love it when KZbin advertises actual NSFW scam shit and has the audacity to actively antagonize anyone who is using an ad blocker to avoid getting viruses. It's especially awful given how fucking frequent ads show up today. The Adpocalypse looks like paradise in comparison to today.

[@lordcurze]

that bot ahh reply is like a cherry on too

[@enderguardian7443]

speak of the mr beast bot

[@lindyloohoo]

Like the comment below yours that i al going to report :/

[@Snomrade]

Not to mention the bot problem

[@kennwan9917]

@umuppp-e7n Now we just need a bot blocker web extension!

[@Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

If ublock gets blocked, the devs get an update out hours to a day after. When Google rolled out server side ads as a test, ublock devs went "okay, bet" and in like a week, those ads were blocked.

[@rvltadam]

the magic of free and open source software. love these guys

[@kennethwarring7681]

ublock origin is fucking awesome. I haven't seen a single one of these notifications.

[@botpenn4672]

like how Kira wrote secret messages in prisoners' suicide notes as a test, and L went "okay, bet" and gave him a fake 4th message when they talked about the Kira case

[@wea69420]

It's insane. The only reason I even find out about this bullshit is because of videos of people complaining. Haven't seen an ad in years.

[@Fadaar]

@@wea69420 same, and i'm scared to change anything about my browser setup because of it

[@J-boy_64]

I think the biggest slap in the face is how a two second sound clip on KZbin could serve you a 15 second ad before it. That is criminal

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Yup. If the video is 30-60 seconds, expect equally long ads. 🙄 It's extremely stupid. Humanity is exceedingly dense.

[@bleakautomaton4808]

Or the one minute long ads about phones! On a 10 sec clip of memes!

[@charliehowa]

Well if people just watched the ads to start off with you would have the old small ads but because less people see it they need to get more bang out of those who see it.

[@kname1882]

literaly the same??? !?!? whyyy????

[@Edible_edibility]

I got 3 15 second ads for a 5 second video

[@JimmyJohnny64]

They tru so hard to makes us actually care about advertisements when most of us are actually just saying “i dont care” or “omg go away” when an ad plays

[@DiazFR-bk6tp]

They don't care a sh*t about the ad, that's why there are NSFW, scams, etc in those "ads". KZbin just cares about make money.

[@MoonWielder]

"KZbin officially confirmed that videos are not allowed anymore. Just ads."

[@Ozzy622]

(4 years later)

[@nihaoulouloulou3982]

Sounds like a plague inc. news article. 😄

[@jacekc4762]

Dont give them ideas..

[@Jamlord2061]

it’s funny because ad blockers are also fighting back :)

[@nakyearns]

​@@Ozzy622 2 years max, take it or leave it

[@midnightsarrow160]

"Ad blockers violate ytubers tos" "KZbin most the ads I get also violate the tos"

[@CidSilverWing]

When are corpos gonna learn they're not allowed to violate the law with their trashy terms of service? Rhetorical.

[@Unknownodds]

All the problems on KZbin yet they’re focused on ad blockers.

[@zweiigorgon8980]

Best part is anytime i report them nothing happens lol

[@Bramswarr]

When tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes duty.

[@435cyberteam9]

I want some big creator to make a 20 minute compilation of all the worst ads that get put on this platform (as well as all the links from each ad in the description) and see how long it takes for the video to get taken down. That appeal process would be the best shit to watch.

[@purplekey9330]

Ads between every song in a playlist is unforgivable

[@Finnishmanni]

This! But this way they will bully you to buy the premium :/

[@flintmint]

@@Finnishmanni youtube music has less ads

[@aliceDarts]

This is why I went for Spotify.

[@chaplainarkanus6410]

absolutely diabolical 😭

[@boredindahouse4818]

Spotify playing 5-6 ads for 5 songs but people accept that

[@barslars6038]

I watch KZbin on a tablet that is 12 years old. The version of chrome is so old that ads don't show up on.

[@TearsOfTheKingdomIsGreatToo]

not sure if that is good or not xD

[@barslars6038]

@@TearsOfTheKingdomIsGreatToo Its good if you dont like ads. What would be bad about it?

[@TearsOfTheKingdomIsGreatToo]

security in general, along with support for some websites. depending on how old your chrome version is, it could lack some security features, or break some websites - besides that, no ads is great lol, though id still prefer an adblocker be cause they let you autodecline cookies and popups and such@@barslars6038

[@CASA-dy4vs]

@@barslars6038well it’s going to be slow, old, one day won’t work etc.

[@DiazFR-bk6tp]

@@barslars6038 Security xd. Virus will just do a party in your tablet xd

[@WanderingSoul7000]

"It is not possible to use the internet without an adblock"- as someone who was adblock illiterate until just recently.... my experience with finally discovering adblock can be likened to when ancient humans discovered fire. There's no going back. I'll never go back to those dark days of being bombarded with ads ever again.

[@demomanchaos]

I grew up in the days of old where your bandwith was slow AF and limited and so many ads started playing audio/video as well as having drop downs which hog the screen and cover the GTA3 cheat codes you are looking for with bright flashy shit to trigger siezures while installing dozens of viruses on your machine. The moment I learned adblock existed I grabbed it without mercy.

[@WritingNomad-PL]

How do I get one, and which do you recommend?

[@pompomaddons]

@@WritingNomad-PLChrome/firefox extension, ublock origin

[@MIKEY777_]

Recommend a few

[@decay4918]

@@MIKEY777_there’s a ton of chrome extension ad blockers that are 100% safe choose whatever one works best for you :)

[@timmy7201]

The three most annoying things are: - The majority of ads don't interest me at all! - Many yt ads sound like a scam - The audio volume increasing suddenly, with the potential too suffer hearing damage when wearing headphones...

[@kitty_foreststreamvods4116]

especially for asmr content... watching the asmr on max volume and then suddenly loss of hearing because of a random ad

[@nsahandler]

That's the worst, actually. Decades ago federal law banned TV commercials from being above the volume of the TV by a fixed decibel rate. It passed with full bipartisan support. They need to do the same for internet advertising

[@Call_Me_Cupid5321]

I thought I was the only one who noticed this! I could have my volume all the way up on a video and it still sound quiet, but as soon as an ad plays the volume doubles.

[@gollore557]

30 fucking seconds ads

[@gracerose4272]

It’s always medicine or food or clothes. Like literally all the things we alr know we need lol. So dumb

[@SirLightsOut99]

Good to know KZbin won’t do a thing about one creator posting another’s address online for millions of Instagram followers but the moment people start blocking ads it’s a code red and they go into immediate damage repair.

[@KizaruB]

One doesn’t affect their earnings

[@rhythmdude]

@umuppp-e7n i hope it was lia

[@JulesEatesBeans]

@@SirLightsOut99 who posted a address?

[@500ccRabbit]

​@@rhythmdude it's a bot

[@red.laser.]

@@JulesEatesBeans Hes referring to when SSSniperwolf doxxed Jacksfilms

[@AEWYU]

i remember when you used to get 1 ad at the end of a video along with a little banner that you could just close with a single click, and then it turned into ads in the middle and start of the video along with the before mentioned ads, and then it turned into 2 ads, and now this, also the most annoying part with twitch is that its like 3-5 30 second unskipable ads, but that you can still see the stream in the corner while all the audio is muted and you have no idea whats actually happening in the stream

[@umarulaau6766]

Fun fact: if you use a VPN and set it to a country where KZbin is not monetized, you can avoid ads without an adblocker. An example is Maldives

[@pacomatic9833]

Noted.

[@NikoMoraKamu]

or use proper blockers and firefox

[@kirabad-artist6532]

Using YT in Russia was the best experience I’ve had with YT(until the government decided to artificially slow it down so people are forced to use their video platforms)

[@GBeagle1407]

I'm surprised they haven't tried fighting VPN's because "GASP there using it to stop adds!"

[@lisspeedrun]

​@@kirabad-artist6532we got GoodbyeDPI so it's still the best experience, no ads since February 2022, I forgot how disturbing it is to actually watch an advertisement, weird flex but yeah lmao

[@matthewtheking8989]

KZbin is focusing more on adblockers than the bots in their comment sections 💀 come ON man

[@mistzzz4683]

fr, it's so fcking annoying to open a comment thread with the first 2 comments being fcking bots. It's the same thing as charlie mentioned with ads, I just click off the comment thread

[@nahelbeuk]

If only it was just bots but now it's bots promoting the sickest crap possible.

[@mrvr5127]

Well one of them effect their precious money

[@bowan.sanders]

wouldve been funny if a bot replied to this exact comment

[@IRLtwigstan]

@@nahelbeukRemember when “my farts are better than Penguinz0s farts” was a thing. Gosh I miss it

[@TheTrueMeLie]

You know what I hate more than being forced to watch ads? Scam ads and malicious ads that are shoved down my throat by an ad company that cannot regulate itself properly.

[@JulesEatesBeans]

@@TheTrueMeLie Agreed.

[@user-bigchungus1984]

Fr, youtubers get demonitized if they say ,,fuck" but you can get redirected directly to Porn Sites *and / or* have viruses and scams advertized by an AI Voice and that's fine and dandy according to the YT CEO

[@humphreybumblecuck5151]

I clicked a google ad once that blackscreened and froze my computer, couldn't use task manager or any windows commands. had to force shutdown, restart. I will never not use adblock. It would be like unprotected sex with a hooker if I didn't. I will script and ad block till I die. OR I will just not use the internet.

[@420frankp]

Right. Because I poop just fine every day. Sometimes twice a day. Lol.

[@chillin7934]

@@420frankp?

[@xxentre]

I agree with you. 5-10 min of ads to watch a video is making it unusable. The whole internet is becoming unusable with ads. So many websites make you disable your adblock to see the article.

[@lycancatt4248]

i'm a totally blind user and with a screen reader and ads, youtube is unusable without premium. half the time i couldnt find the skip ad button, and half the time the refreshing of the page to display the ad would confuse the screen reader cursor so i'd be lost

[@starbutterfly9036]

I'm sorry about that, man. There should be rules these corporations have to follow in regards to accessibility.

[@jaclynm3618]

wtf that's awful youtube should really be thinking more about accessibility and inclusivity rather than lining their already filled pockets

[@eliasvik3792]

Why buy premium when u can use adblocker?

[@dallas2586]

Ya dosent help they purposely move the skip ad button by shrinking the screen 50% so you can’t get used to it anymore, sketchy pieces of shit.

[@Ozz131]

@@jaclynm3618 tbh i think our money goes to creators

[@bhiett7448]

Trying to use the Fandom site is by far one of the worst experiences with ads you can get. You try looking up a small tidbit of info about something and you get an automatic video ad playing while following the page as you scroll, several other banner ads to the side, another pop up that will slide into view, and just overall jittery usage because of them. And god forbid you try using the site on mobile, can feel almost unusable sometimes.

[@frostmint3584]

My god I fr it got so fucking bad

[@sourgreendolly7685]

protop for fandom wikis- change fandom in the url to 'breezewiki' We shouldn't need to do this but it's helped a lot for me when checking game info on my phone

[@LakkzScratch]

yo slime rancher pfp, never seen that before

[@GuacPissDoodoo]

so many ads it makes my phone heat up its actually miserable

[@AA-sw5pb]

It's unusable on mobile. You can't even scroll as when ads pop up it makes the page move.

[@alexmiller7721]

Dude, you are so on the ball with this. I had the misfortune of having to access KZbin via TV for a couple of months, so no ad blocker. It sucked big time and more often than not, I quit watching the video I clicked on because I wasn't prepared to sit through multiple 60 seconds of ads to watch an 8 minute long vid. Hell, I don't even remember what any of those ads were for, which shows how ineffective they actually are. YT has become it's own worst enemy. Without ad block, I would probably walk away from the platform altogether.

[@druidhunter77]

Honestly though. I have a TV downstairs but I just can't watch youtube on it at all. It is genuinely the worst experience I've ever had. The ads are just insane, constant, and terrible.

[@mr420quickscops2]

You only got 60 seconds of ads to an 8 minute video? My TV did 2 minutes of ads every 2 minutes

[@alexmiller7721]

@@mr420quickscops2 It was getting like that by the end of the couple of months. I guess the longer you watch YT on TV, the longer and more frequent the ads get.

[@alex_da_neko]

hey tips for yall! when ads play on ur tv, click on the information (the i in the circle thing) and click on not show this ad again, and return to video! hope this helps!

[@mr420quickscops2]

@@alex_da_neko Unfortunately, I was only able to do that for around 15 advertisements. After that the info button completely vanished and I only had the option to directly open the ad. Which sucks because I did it to all the regular legit ads, and then got only Elon Musk crypto scam videos and was unable to report them

[@thederpysqueege]

Ublock is open source, so as they adapt their intrusive ads, anyone can help ublock to make it stronger and continue the arms race. It's possible that the further youtube pushes these intrusive ads the harder it will be for them to return to user friendly ads due to the growing number of people using adblockers. Everyone has a certain tolerance for ads, and the more intrusive the ads become the more they incentivize using ad block. Once a user is using an ad blocker there aren't any real incentives to turn it off since it completely nullifies the inconvenience of ads. If average "ad tolerance" is at 3/10 and they kick their ads up to a 7/10, more people will force a 0/10 ad experience (ad block), and trying to get people to go back will be hard even if they dial back their intensity to a 2 or 1 since the user would be giving up their ad free experience. KZbin's current method of dissuasion seem to have a cobra effect, and by doubling down there is potential that they will lose more users to adblockers. It's difficult to predict how many ad block users would be willing to switch back without good reason to, and the longer they try to push the more intrusive ads the worse the chances of regaining their "lost" users becomes.

[@thederpysqueege]

It's possible that's why youtube has decided to double down on trying to fight ad block. Increasing the barrier of entry for adblockers means less are able to use their blockers effectively, however that's assuming they don't accidentally completely drive away their users. Despite having deep pockets and google on their side, competitors providing a service similar to youtube's but without or with minimal ads could end up threatening their hold over their users and is not completely out of the question (why do you think people joke about going back to cable... given the right circumstances the joke could end up becoming reality and may already be so for a percentage of the userbase!)

[@LiroRaeriyo]

@@thederpysqueege its very bold of youtube to assume i would stop using an ad blocker before i would stop using youtube

[@dd7896]

I've been using Firefox and ublock for ages and when they rolled out this "adblocks are against tos" bullshit, I've told several friends about unlock and they all switched. Not only are KZbin's ways turning people towards better adblocks, they're also turning people away from their mother companies product, Google Chrome, it's quite funny to me and is a sign of a failing company that stopped trying to improve and started trying to milk

[@bnjmn752]

Another thing to consider is people who are on limited data plans. The ads use quite a chunk of that data. Especially some of the news websites that are loaded with ads. Adblockers are absolutely necessary.

[@Mellohivee]

Adding to this! Unlike normal yt vids, you can't adjust the quality playback of ads. So if it's like a 4K resolution ad. You gotta watch it in its full quality.

[@mcgfn]

@@Mellohiveeyup im all too used to waiting 30 seconds for a 15 second ad to load, total bullshit

[@z--KAISER]

You can use a VPN to change your location like "Bhutan #1 - virtual." They don't have ads there. And KZbin won't notice it

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAMHD]

‬‭‮ ECILOPLLORTEBUTU YHT FO DERACS ERA SLLORT

[@PlayFull_Cat1]

sometimes I'll be watching KZbin on cellular data on a car ride or a road trip and we'll pass through a spot with garbage cell service, so I just turn the video quality down ! but the stupid ads still play at full resolution, I had an ad load for 4 minutes once. Why can't KZbin detect the ad is taking forever to load and lower the quality or stop serving the ad?

[@stas4323]

>KZbin makes a patch >Someone patches their Adblock Repeat forever

[@mbrofoc]

KZbin will be slower and slower after the race lmao

[@tahamughees459]

its a multi-billion dollar company owned by a multi-trillion dollar company against a few individuals. eventually the cycle will break.

[@emanuelstornello8009]

​@@tahamughees459yes, because KZbin will stop caring but normal people will never

[@Sandwich1-akp]

@@emanuelstornello8009 Yeah but eventually people will leave yt.

[@ursulmusic]

Right now ads have their own streams, but once KZbin will have ads into the same video stream as the main video, we won't really be able to block ads anymore.

[@Spartan5801]

What makes it worse is that even the “do not see this ad anymore” button is that it doesnt even work. I see the same temu ads and native ads pop up even after hitting that button several times

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAMHD]

‬‭‮ ECILOPLLORTEBUTU YHT FO DERACS ERA SLLORT

[@propernamepls]

from where I am there are even ads promoting gambling, like 5 iterations of them

[@harmia1278]

I blocked likely 15-20 temu ads and I think I'm finally rid of them. Let us just hope this comment doesn't trigger them again... 😑

[@smugsneasel]

I am so tired of seeing the Hero-Wars ads. So...tired...

[@steffenrumpel2784]

@@smugsneasel At least I never have to sit through these trashvertisements. Skip, skip, skippedy skip.

[@atakankorkut3946]

6:57 The thing is they even show ads on videos that arent even monetized

[@armandcaringi]

My school uses “Adblock” and it just forces the teacher to watch a black screen for like 2 minutes before the video plays.

[@fredrikcarlgren4538]

Yeah

[@deadman419]

Ublock origin is better

[@05-REDACTED317]

@umuppp-e7n what the fuck

[@Sehhonen]

@@deadman419 Fr it is, Ive never got a ad in like months when they announced ad blockers are not allowed and I never even thought about it after

[@Donovarkhallum]

​@@deadman419nobit isnt lmao

[@JYJnKumi]

I have Premium ONLY because I'm a recovering alcoholic and constantly being shown ads for alcohol was a living hell. YT sucks. I miss the days where when one site started to suck, a new and better one popped up. YT is greedy af and they don't care about its users.

[@mcbamm5683]

For what it’s worth, you can tell KZbin to block all booze ads if you have ad personalisation on without YT premium.

[@TheSegert]

They are litterally blackmailing you. It should be illegal. In my country it is illegal. But the government doesnt do anything to big tech corpos.

[@bbanksracing]

@@mcbamm5683YOU MEAN TO TELL ME KZbin PREMIUM DOESNT ERASE ADS FOR THE USERS ANYMORE?!

[@Stef14-200]

GET KZbin REVANCED!!

[@daahorse1652]

Welcome to KZbin, hope you enjoy your stay.

[@AngelOfDeath13]

I can't wait to be in the middle of following a DIY or cooking recipe where I need to occassionally pause. I can see it now. Detailed instruction > pause > ad > forget what the instruction was due to ad > rewind > rewatch > pause > pause ad > forget again > repeat until exhaustion or kitchen fire has occured.

[@0ptimal]

Haha

[@adri745k]

Did anyone ever tell you the definition of Insanity ?

[@thegamingsnake-e9o]

or accidentally create a eldritch horror

[@santiago.v1743]

💀 its a cycle 🔄 They want us to spend more time in the platform

[@santiago.v1743]

@@adri745ka guy named vaas told me 😔

[@quickchicken506]

Ads ruined regular television. I don't even watch tv anymore. When a 90-minute movie takes 3 hours to watch on TV, it's too much

[@kevdon_]

TV KZbin is worse. I keep getting 50 second unskippable ads, and it's starting to look like actual Television where you get 15 minutes of advertisements nonstop between broadcasts.

[@kabeam5643]

TV has the power of if you report the ad as inappropriate it immediately skips it 95% of the time

[@NULL_1-o7t]

I was watching War of worlds 2005 on my TV. I got around 8-10 minutes between ads. Oh and the THE BROADCAST WILL CONTINHE AFTER ONLY ONE AD. Tge ad being 40 seconds long

[@parker469a]

I don't mind 30 second ads but pretty often I get a full 30 minute to 2 hour long show as ads sometimes from PragerU or one of their affiliates. I'm not going to watch that much of another thing in the middle of a video I'm awake for. I often play a music playlist when I go to sleep and they could slip in a two hour video then while I'm unconscious but not when I'm awake.

[@davidbwa]

OMG yes. I was recently pet sitting at a friend's house, didn't have my PC with me so watched some YT on her TV. I was appalled at how bad it was compared to on my PC

[@OsirusHandle]

They do something disgusting now where they make you watch 1-2 mins of ads "instead of more adbreaks" in a longer video, except they run the same number of breaks as before, so it has just skyrocketed.

[@kcscustom9759]

I completely agree. And the other half of the problem is that half of these ads that are being shoved down your throat are literal scams or NSFW. God forbid you tap on one on accident your device will probably get instantly infected with 17 different pieces of malware.

[@gampie13]

you also forget the mountain of malware infested ads, that try and put scripts or worse on your PC, marly by the ad playing/buffering in...

[@Honey-Biscuit]

I got ads for a mobile game that's falsely advertising using footage of a pornographic *VORE* game in its ad. I'm genuinely flabbergasted watching a pixelated girl get her clothing blasted off and then being eaten by something. What the fuck man, I'm leaving this site if I can't use adblock.

[@dankxen0n804]

online advertisements need the exact same kind of regulations and strictness as TV ads at this point.

[@Caponeson1]

I've never seen any NSFW ads

[@Brisingr73]

Can you even get viruses without downloading anything?

[@WVLFP4CK]

I sometimes watch videos on my consoles whenever I’m not on my PC. Looking over to see a 50 second “long ad”. They’re unskipable. I genuinely feel like I’m watching cable again

[@arghpee]

Same, it's inconvenient as hell if you have a TV

[@SecretMarsupial]

Yes, thats the model they would like to get back to. With you having as little choice as possible. The censorship is still the most insidious part of this platform though.

[@ag3ntgt]

Go report the ad on the “i” button, use whatever, all the ads are skipped, dont thank me

[@BryceF1.]

Yess thisss I swear the ads are triple as long compared to a phone and also a thing noticed on console is that you can skip and ad to another ad if you didn’t like that one 😐

[@DarkDyllon]

@@SecretMarsupial and Google rolling out Manifest V3 soon as well, meaning most adblockers lose a good chunk of their functionality on chromium based browsers, you can see what they're trying, thank god i'm on firefox with ublock origins.

[@AMurderOfLobs]

I keep getting fed the same "Vote No On Measure Z" ad that makes it through my adblocker (I probably just need to reboot). Previously apolitical, I will now be marching through the streets with a megaphone and posters for "Voting YES on Measure Z".

[@miritallstag336]

If your allover is ublock origin, right click on the ad and select "block element". If you're on your phone and using ublock origin, tap the menu button next to the address bar, select extensions, select ublock, tap the eyedropper tool, and tap whatever you want to block.

[@ieradossantos]

If more people buy their premium they'll start creating tiers of premium where you'll get ads even with the low tier premium

[@surusweet]

Yup just like Hulu and Disney+ people literally pay for ads it sucks

[@bjorn1583]

no premium or ad blocker and still dont have to deal with ads on utube

[@azurelava7796]

Just goes to show how people are inherently selfish. KZbin is owned by Google. Do you pay for Google searches? Do you pay to watch KZbin videos? Do you pay to upload KZbin videos? How about Google make an update so it costs you 50 cents for each minute of video you upload? Maybe you'll prefer that type of business model then.

[@sh0xoR]

@@azurelava7796 These are bad examples. Google has time and time again proven that they''re not the most trustworthy search engine. They sell your personal data and search history left and right. If companies want to appear on the first page of your google search they have to pay for the search ranking. This is especially important for startups. People make content and upload it to youtube and you suggest that they should even pay for that? KZbin's business model revolves around people making content in their free time. If nobody made content there'd be no KZbin and we wouldn't even have this conversation.

[@Koyote2033]

​@@bjorn1583are you using a VPN or just actually in a country where KZbin isn't monetized? I'm curious what your method is for not seeing ads

[@StoneStoneStoneStoneStoneStone]

One of my favorite quotes by Drew Golden is "So I was scrolling through ads when I stumbled on to some content"

[@grind_24.7_players]

hahahah

[@Ratsian]

The only way that I’ll even consider getting rid of ad blocker is if youtube: •Stops hosting scam and NSFW ads •Deplatform creators that promote scam and/or NSFW content (especially to kids) I dont want to give ad money to a company with little to no morals

[@Michael-eb8nf]

Lol so you'll never stop using adblock ever.

[@localshadow21]

@Ratsain What about NSFW for adults?

[@williamyoung9401]

I can't even say the word "Courage" 🦁 instead of "Shiny" to surf the web without my comment getting deleted. Check out "Courage" instead of "Shiny". A-B is built in.

[@williamyoung9401]

I can't even say the word "Courage" 🦁 instead of "Shiny" to surf the web without my comment getting deleted. Try that instead of "Shiny".

[@insoporous9978]

@@williamyoung9401 Try flaming canidae. No courage needed.

[@RBRT02]

When you stop watching a video and come back to it later, it plays another ad. Watching a 10 minute video in pieces of 30 seconds is gonna give you 21 ads. Probably all 2 ads, so actually 42 ads on a 10 minute video. Doing that would be stupid, but its proving a point.

[@noahburley1045]

I know nobody at KZbin HQ will see my comment, but you bring up a good point about skippable vs. unskippable ads. If I am forced to watch an ad that I don't want to see, I will go out of my way to ensure that I never purchase that company's products or services ever again.

[@beavis4play]

agree 100% with that. anytime i'm forced by any site to watch an ad i think that.

[@alannguyen1669]

If you see a KZbinr is promoting something or doing an ad read, it's probably sketchy.

[@MyAramil]

Here Here. I refuse to use the services or products of any company that basically grapes me with ads (as in I do not have a choice but must accept the ad)

[@47slogra]

Spite is a powerful tool

[@kevinm.n.5158]

I'll literally inconvenience myself just to avoid a company I recognize from Advertising based on principle

[@ikeepsecrets]

5 years ago youtube changed ads to show twice instead of only one ad. if they would’ve just stopped tinkering with the ads system there would be way less cases of adblock being used on their site.

[@ggregg2667]

Come on. No need to lie. You and everyone else would still use adblocker.

[@Mr.GTheWatcher]

@@ggregg2667 I WAS just too lazy to get an ad block because I thought, it's just an ad I can wait a bit, then double ads and weird/nsfw ads kept showing up so I decided to get ublock. I probably would have kept on not using an Adblock if there weren't those suggestive ads

[@stephaniejenkins7822]

@@ggregg2667 I know I wouldn't if they'd stopped at two ads per video, as long as the ads were skippable.

[@Novacreeper231]

@@ggregg2667 maybe but I didn't get one until I started watching yt on my computer which gave me 2 ads at once

[@RootbeerMuncher]

@@ggregg2667yeah possibly, the the feeling to have to do that would be a lot less considering 1 skippable ad is literally 5 seconds vs the 15 second un-skippable ad PLUS the 5 second skippable ad.

[@Thep184]

The most ridiculous part is: youtube has a special player for kids. Like some videos are flagged as content for kids and have some features blocked. And still these videos get ads for like casinos or fake game apps or adult products. Like… YOU KNOW ITS FOR KIDS…. WHAT ??? And the audacity that you want to watch like a 1 minute clip and could end up watching 30 seconds of ads is wild. Also the fucking lie of „ oh the ads finance our platform and pay the creators“ Yeah sure, its not by coincidence so you make a huge profit of the platform

[@noxx6338]

the most annoying is like 1 minute or 2 minute unskipable ads like ZZZ ads youtube is just becoming ridiculous, but hey that's corporate greed

[@ziv7913]

100% facts this comment

[@MorMacFey-v2g]

I've seen the stuff they push towards kids, might as well take them to a child molester's house.

[@Ririthu_]

and also,,,, some people uploading straight up porn that's labelled as "for kids" ._.

[@bluedragonsden7222]

Well for some reason, the issue when they had that big fine from the FTC was that they were gathering info on them to give targeted ads, not that they were advertising to kids in general, which means that they now just don't give personalized ads to those videos... So on one hand they don't promote things that children might buy, on the other they now give them general ads, which could be anything, even things not safe for kids knowing KZbin's lax advertisement regulation. Funnily enough I think that's worse overall then just giving targeted ads, and realistically they shouldn't be allowed to advertise to children at all(well to the best of they're ability anyway)

[@sypheur27]

What I’ve noticed with my AdBlock is that it won’t give me the popup that I have AdBlock, what it’ll do is play the ad anyway, but take away the skip button so I can’t do anything unless I pause my AdBlock. Outside of my computer, the ads have gotten so bad, especially on my TV, where ads can be anywhere from 30 seconds to a few MINUTES long and make you wait upwards of 50 SECONDS just to skip them.. And it’ll tell you “Fewer ad breaks for this longer video” and then still send you 3 more minutes of unskippable ads in 5 minutes

[@BoothiIl]

As a guy with sensitive hearing, sometimes ads (not literally) blow up my ear drums, I literally had to move to twitch while my ad blocker wasn't working just to not get my ears destroyed since I can't auto mute ads without muting the video itself, I wouldn't even mind ads taking my time itself but the sound, I can't take it

[@ChronicallyOnlineINTP]

FR SOMETIMES THEY'RE LOUDER THAN THE VIDEO 💀💀

[@TotherKoala]

Pretty sure there are extensions that can mute browser tab audio during ads idk tho

[@mrclean7473]

my farts are better than Charlie's farts

[@boss_boy_]

get uBlock Origin. Works on Firefox and Chrome, and blocks KZbin ads completely, ignoring the anti-adblock popup and an ad-sized "delay" before the video starts playing.

[@yukiandkanamekuran]

you need an ad muter on mobile.

[@maznyofc]

If blocking ads violates the terms, why do they allow malicious ads? It's not enough to know everything and sell to third parties, now you have to accept receiving proposals from scammers.

[@bobowon5450]

They don't vet the ads. It's a highly automated process

[@tino.t27]

it’s not like yt doesn’t sell ur shit anyways

[@ADanZLife]

I use Brave Browser and never get any ads. If KZbin stops working on Brave Browser, then i guess I'll just have to watch something else.

[@yfbb1]

the 'ConsumentenBond' in the netherlands 🇳🇱 is pulling google into court for selling our private info

[@MorMacFey-v2g]

Their terms are a security risk. I'd like them to please take me to court and force that issue.

[@Xighor]

The harder they push unskippable ads the more ppl push back 1 Skippable Ads you can cope with but when i started getting unskippable ads that's when i decided to research how to block ads on both browser and mobile KZbin, now they're doing double unskippable ads

[@lemagicbaguette1917]

The people _always_ win. I cannot fathom why corporations like these cannot recognise this simple fact.

[@UziMusic]

Yeah, if there's no work around, i'll just not use it.. and come back when I can use ab

[@jordanphilipperris]

And let us not forget about the topic of unjustly shadowbanning peoples comments for anyone who has done nothing to deserve that.

[@pashajackson0]

I once got 4 ads in a row (3 of them were unskippable)

[@Mas-ij3ti]

@@lemagicbaguette1917 Indeed they do. I use a mirror site of KZbin, its the exact same as youtube just with no ads and sadly the creators gets 0 benefit from me watching, but that is what KZbin has forced me to do. If i remove adblock i get 40 fake mrbeast ads and if you accidentally click one while scrolling you can get your info stolen. I started using mirror sites for everything, free netflix, youtube without ads etc, free UFC fights.

[@LampastaLlama]

In EU they're not allowed to scan your computer and know whenever you're using an ad blocker or not, yet... they still do it, violating RODO and getting our personal data. They should be taken to the court

[@monobobotonto]

The funniest thing is when instead of ads you get "surveys", and then you get asked by youtube:"how has your experience with ads been as of late?" HOW DO THEY EXPECT ANYONE TO SERIOUSLY ANSWER ANYTHING OTHER THAN "HORRIBLE"

[@thevioletskull8158]

Some of them, like the one where they ask if you have heard of a brand, are not too horrible, but it's best not to answer

[@FedoraSilverblue]

@@perilousintent2936 i use zen browser and cachy os btw☺

[@Galaxius2117]

It's worse when you try to skip the survey without answering. They usually throw a prompt up at me wanting me to answer the survey, and the only way to get past the survey is to select an answer. Literally happens every.single.time.

[@escribopapelitos]

I always answer neutral so they can stop wasting my time. I rarely use KZbin on my phone anymore, I stick to my pc with uBlock origin.

[@allisonelizabeth6596]

it just feels like they're mocking you

[@NoobmanTheNoob]

They force me to watch 2 unskippable scam ads before EVERY VIDEO and then they have the audacity to bitch at me for using an adblocker.

[@mryellow6918]

Don't forget after aswell, so if your on auto play or listening to music, you get 4 ads in a row like half the length of the actual content.

[@Lukasopris]

Honest cuz 😭

[@-Mintyy]

Okay lil bro, we all totally believe you, for real we do.

[@shhh3683]

I have KZbin revanced

[@RuinerOFdays]

@@-Mintyy "Lil bro"

[@Redeadhunter]

KZbin staff spending weeks of resources on coding to get around or "discourage" adblocks only to see any progress they make get invalidated within minutes by a group of amateurs will forever bring me joy

[@Roflcopter100]

yet they won't bat an eye to the numerous amounts of spambots in the comments.

[@breakupgoogle4584]

Thats the best part. Months of useless corpo meetings, resources, coding, all blown away by some dudes for the lolz.

[@ajfgaming7387]

Kinda sucks that adblockers are usually open source, which means google can figure out exactly how to fight against it

[@LilacMonarch]

I wonder if we have an undercover hero at youtube intentionally making their code easy to break. "Nah trust me boss, this function is ESSENTIAL"

[@lasdkeresa8812]

​@@ajfgaming7387it didnt really help them all this time so not really

[@LKnight32]

The entire reason I moved to watching KZbin in the first place was to avoid the minutes of ads you get on tv so why make KZbin the same? I actively try to avoid any products that are unskippable ads these days.

[@Fwhalon]

Ads have always been extremely intrusive. I've been using adblockers since 2007 and I absolutely refuse to browse the internet without them. If a website tries to force me to disable my adblockers, I won't use it.

[@kitty_foreststreamvods4116]

any time i find an article somewhat related to what i was looking for and i go to the article and it says i have to turn off ad blocker, 99 times out of 100 the article doesnt end up helping me anyways and disabling ad blocker is just a waste of time

[@Shadowclaw25]

100% agree, if they cant take adblock, the site is fishy. The funny thing is i watch alot of ads on the internet, the ones I chose cause i really wanna buy that lol

[@Mohammadhamzasiddiqui2008]

I thought KZbin added ads back in 2011

[@inter_1097]

@@kitty_foreststreamvods4116 Turn off ad blocker to read this article wrote by ChatGPT!

[@JadenZeCreator]

I highly doubt you will stop using KZbin… YT knows this which is why they abuse it. They have a monopoly

[@TaroTempura]

We're regressing to the era of cable tv commercials again

[@counterattack248]

We're already in it for KZbin.

[@AngelDustIsSus]

they're not even really that bad. i'll sumtimes sit with the tv on and usually its 2 30-60 sec ads, then 15-30 minutes of no ads, depending on what channel ur on and what ur watching

[@jaxonbuttler3423]

@@AngelDustIsSus i agree and the times you get like 6 30 second ads there is always a next button after the first ad that skips you to the last add with a skip button ontop of it

[@carstenhansen5757]

Nah, we just need a viable alternative to google/YT

[@FirstNameFakeLastNameFake]

@@AngelDustIsSus That's weird bc I just got 2 5 minute ads on a 20 minute music video. Maybe using anecdotal evidence isn't a good way to argue?

[@pessie83]

They also made sure that you can skip not 2 but 1 advertisement with the button 'Skip Ad.' And if you are watching a KZbin video that lasts for about an hour and a half, an advertisement suddenly appears without you being warned with the text 'Ad will appear in ... seconds'.

[@SureThingBlu]

Can't even watch a hour long dj mix without the vibe being Interupted by ads now even

[@MorMacFey-v2g]

Still haven't seen an ad. KZbin can suck donkey balls.

[@naminus9080]

My biggest problem with youtube ads. 1. The volume increase. 2. The fact that a 30 seconds ad can be easily 10minutes plus if you dont constantly press skip...

[@All-Father8549]

KZbin is becoming like commercial cable TV. Was at a hotel the other day, and tried watching a movie; Every 5 minutes like 10 ads played... I got through about 20 minutes of the movie and gave up, just turned it off, and sat in silence 💀

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

Welcome to the digital distribution future. Our grandkids' minds will boggle at how we were able to stick in a blue ray and watch the entire movie without a single interruption.

[@WileECoyoder]

@@goodlookinouthomie1757 I agree and still buy physical media for anything I intend to watch again, but even some BDs come with "mandatory" ads like unskippable studio cards and (usually skippable) trailers before it will show you the menu; I think each movie in my Avengers collection takes 60-90 seconds to get to their respective menus while mashing the Skip button. If your BD player is internet-enabled, it will even download new trailers before you can do anything. This for a movie/show you've *purchased to own*. Like I said, I'll still go physical so I have my own local copy, but even low-form ads (like trailers on a disc) are everywhere.

[@GambitGodsey]

This guy makes money by subs seeing ads on his vids. He's complaining about making money😂

[@UziMusic]

@@goodlookinouthomie1757 To be fair most movies have ads in them

[@scienceface8884]

​@@UziMusic Disney was the worst for this, tons of unskippable ads before the movie would play ON A DISK YOU PAID MONEY FOR! But at least they didn't pop in to interrupt the middle of the film...

[@Jiggaboojoness]

Yall remember back in the day the only ad we would get was that little rectangle at the bottom that you just had to X out . Now we have unskippable ads and ads even when the video is paused

[@ravikeller9626]

I remember refusing to update my KZbin app on my iPod touch simply because I didn’t want the increased ads when they started rolling out for real

[@hanibotzer]

Yes good times but now they will probably add it on top of the ads

[@mollusckscramp4124]

I remember when an "ad" on youtube was a single square above related videos linking to Newgrounds 🤣

[@zackakai5173]

I'll do you one better. I remember back in the day when the only ad you'd get was a little rectangle on the side or top of the page you didn't even have to bother Xing out of, because it stayed unobtrusively in its place. Hell, sometimes they even made a site feel more lively. Funnily how the vast majority of people didn't feel the need to run adblockers in those days 🤔

[@DoritoDoritio]

I’d rather deal with the tiny x on Android phones than 6 ads per video

[@sicklingstargazer]

Having 2 unskippable ads before a livestream is crazy, the audacity KZbin have to hunt people who use adblockers when they don't do anything on literally anything else

[@ashamane]

tbh they can hunt me all they want I'll just stop using the platform if they try and take action against me. It's already a huge time waster as it is, it's probably exactly what I need lol.

[@EVAN-dl6ef]

8:15, i personally hate skippable ads cause a lot times I would be cleaning or doing something with my hands so having them automatically skipped is better

[@LunTheOptimist]

The issue is that KZbin has no real competitor, so they can get away with making the User Experience more hostile.

[@fredrikcarlgren4538]

Yeah

[@dustojnikhummer]

They have, nobody uses them. Odysee for example. Even KZbinrs who complain about KZbin refuse to take the time to dual upload.

[@blakecampbell-taylor2865]

Google is a monopoly

[@chan_martin]

One could say they are the EA of online content.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Rumble is a competitor

[@IOpxn]

I’m okay with watching an ad here and there, no problem. I’m getting fed 30-50 second unskippable ads every 3 mins and they expect me to not find a way to block them. Genuinely sickening. EDIT: ALSO creators have ads inside the video, that’s more ads I have to watch!

[@internetfox]

SponsorBlock exists ;)

[@kumaye9446]

its crazy. idk i notice a huge increase in ads at the start of the summer. I do long road trip i listen to longer vids. I was fine with ads because even in 1-3 hour vids they would be spaced good. Now if i watch any vid longer than 25 minutes its like i get an ad every 3-5 minutes.

[@kianhrenak]

Overdramatic much

[@1wayDrell]

@@kumaye9446 its worse when u tryna wash the dishes and listen to a video only to get double unskipable ads as soon as your hands get wet

[@dh510]

Yeah..I really don't get their reasoning... If they wouldn't make their ads so unbearably long and annoying, people wouldn't bother as much with completely avoiding them. Having less ads would also make every individual one more valuable.

[@jellyfishjones4741]

I remember back when you didn't need an adblocker. As long as you weren't on somewhere sketchy, you any ads weren't intrusive. They were usually just something off to the side away from the main content. Sometimes you might even see stuff you'd want to click on and it would be something legit.

[@heyviper1238]

That was how i found miniclip, it was ad on some website. That got me through a lot of my childhood.

[@scienceface8884]

Banner ads! I never felt the need to block static banner ads as a kid, half the time they were selling something relevant to the website you were on. And then full video ads in the corner that would automatically load and play made every web page they were on suddenly take forever to load and threatened to prematurely data cap me...

[@sierradetwiler1042]

I remember being a kid and clicking on banner ads for games that ended up being a good chunk of my childhood (club penguin, neopets, howrse, chicken smoothie, etc) that i wouldn't have found otherwise. I miss regular, relevant banner ads :(

[@the13throse]

Companies don't bother having useful or good ads anymore. They just spam people with dozens of shitty loud and annoying ads and pray it'll somehow turn into more money for them.

[@RaethFennec]

Curated banner ads are not just okay, they're actually great. I'm working with a company that uses them every now and then as targeted advertising on relevant websites. They actually drive tons of users our way. The engagement level is huge when done right. Instead, KZbin is using the shotgun method. Who cares about a curated user experience? Who needs accountability for whatever garbage they're serving? They'll take money from anyone and slap an ad on anything, regardless of whether it's appropriate or not. They're happy to tank the user experience because they've all but monopolized their market sector and are operating at huge volume. It's really gross and sad; they have no pride.

[@Gleowyn]

I will listen to youtube the day they fix their shit so it's watchable without adblocks. Hell right now it even jumps off of my playlists completely randomly while I'm listening. I don't want your random suggested video, that's why I'm on a damn playlist

[@Travis_Inlanzer]

The biggest issue I have with ads on any website is that the people who purchase the ad space don't get checked to see if their ads aren't malicious. The amount of computers I've had to remove malware and sometimes even viruses from is because older people or people who don't know any better go to websites and accidentally or intentionally click an ad and get screwed. If these companies are gonna serve ads they better bend over backwards just to make sure that users of the websites aren't getting their computers rekt.

[@AegixDrakan]

This. Getting an adblocker took me and my family from dozens of malwares a week to maybe one every three years. If KZbin doesn't want people using those, maybe they should make sure they don't force their customers to compromise the security of their computers.

[@friendlybendy2070]

@@AegixDrakan hopefully they themselves r the ones that get hacked instead

[@BlazingOwnager]

The ad situation is completely insane. I tried using it without adblock for a few days when I was on another device and oh my God. It stops multiple times DURING A SONG for an ad break! Every video has like 10 ads on it! And what's worse? The ads are super sketchy and scammy. Online pill companies. Fake contests. Misleading fake-influencer format videos. It's insane.

[@capsyzetv]

to be fair its not really meant to be an entertainment platform unless you pay these days. the only reason you should use it for free is for tutorials and DIY jobs. You dont even get access to Netflix, Hulu, etc. for free. you pay 5-10 and STILL get ads.

[@UziMusic]

I wouldn't use wthout ab , my mate has a young kid, and puts on kids youtube shows to keep child interested/distracted to get a chance at doing the chores the amount of ads bombarded is literally insane.. worse than commercial tv

[@karafaulkner36]

​@capsyzetv KZbin isn't a streaming service... it's supposed to be a website where you can watch videos from your favorite creators without getting bombarded by ads. If you have to justify their greed by saying we should "only be using it a certain way anyways," the platform has already failed in its purpose. Google makes over 300 BILLION USD per year, with KZbin making ~31 billion dollars annually... we shouldn't have to pay $14/ month for what should be a free video service.

[@escapetherace1943]

@@karafaulkner36 yeah an ad before or after every 3 videos seems fair, nothing else

[@samir_rod]

Not just that, but recently, the amount of ads that KZbin shows me in less than 5 minutes, it's insane. One time, I skipped an ad, and after skipping it, KZbin immediately showed me another 2 ads. Its just insane how desperate they're for money, its driving me insane this abuse of ads on this platform.

[@ryanthompson3737]

That's not how the ad system works. They give you all the ads at once unless the creator has put in another ad spot directly afterwards. I know a couple channels doing this, and it's horrendous.

[@samir_rod]

@@ryanthompson3737 Well, unless all creators have decided to do that, then that explains everything. But this has been happening to me in every single video I watch, specifically when I watch KZbin on mobile, on desktop this things don't happen.

[@BlackPillVillain]

​@@ryanthompson3737 no bro I have a few videos I seen. That were 3 ads back to back Its brutal

[@ajmulsharifi]

You can stop ads by Turning your vpn on to Afghanistan server😂

[@zombied3stroy3r9gaming4]

​@@BlackPillVillain I've been having to skip every individual ad on mobile, it won't skip both ads at the same time now. It's even worse when I try and watch anything on my PS4 or Switch because there, you're forced to sit through over a minute of 4 or 5 different ads before the skip button even starts to work

[@FrostReave]

I put up with KZbin ads until about 5 months ago. What got me on adblocking KZbin? Them spiking the amount of ads. Now they dont make any ad money off me. Genius KZbin you got greedy and tried to get more and instead ended up getting nothing

[@FrostyAleria]

I use KZbin to help me sleep, now even when creators have it turned off ads show up in the middle or end of their videos. You get startled awake and repeat. Trying to get a goodnight sleep is becoming rather difficult. And don’t even get me started on the scam ads

[@tylerwantstobeacreator9936]

Yes!

[@צמחישראלמרום]

but I get you so much

[@unchi1999]

I feel your pain bro 😔

[@purplepartytigerd1598]

Saaame, I ended up downloading a few of them so that I can just play off my gallery and not deal with ads.

[@mohsinshahbaz5846]

I can relate! You should use Addd blockkers

[@Fequla]

Ads playing when you pause is crazy💀

[@fredrikcarlgren4538]

Yeah

[@Josh10976]

Aren’t you the h1t1 fridge guy?

[@PistolArrow76]

If ur broke

[@randomguy8336]

That's just diabolical,.

[@homerodysseus4203]

​@@PistolArrow76poor hating like a callous piece

[@jt_plays_drums]

the ads on the TV app are unbearable, you’re forced to watch a batch of ads that can go up to 90 seconds before a video even starts

[@Szetiazigazi_]

I got food, i sit down, launch youtube, and watch 3 unskippable ads, and then my food is gone.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Better watch clowds in the sky than watch adds.

[@lukepenny8601]

I wait till the adds are done then start eating then when one comes on I stop eating till my video plays again

[@ElRabito]

SmartTubeNext for Android TV. KZbin ReVanced for Mobile Android devices.

[@apocalypticsword5524]

@@lukepenny8601 honestly i just exit youtube alot of the time now. if the content isnt extremely gripping then its not worth dealing with ads, so i'll just go play games or read a book. no ads there.

[@durgeshanand6774]

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 bro tbh watching clouds move on the sky blue canvas is really relaxing idk why

[@kooldogkid149]

I’ll never forget the one time a bit back where I was trying to watch oversimplified, when an ad came up about some crappy anime comic, and my dad actually thought I was watching p*rn at the dinner table. KZbin literally almost got me grounded over a crappy ad

[@yurisei6732]

You've just rediscovered what it used to be like playing browser games. You could just be playing a tower defense game, but you'd get three "hot singles" ads in the borders around it.

[@BryAstronaut]

That must have sucked trying to explain to your family about that. :(

[@BlackOrderAlchemist]

That's pretty funny tho :y

[@Chicken12Salad]

​@@BlackOrderAlchemistits not if it ruins your relationship with your family

[@BlackOrderAlchemist]

@@Chicken12Salad True, but I'm guessing this person here can look back and laugh at this particular incident

[@warfare1101]

The fact that the FBI says you need AdBlock says all you need to know

[@Noomagenial]

Source?

[@AkSpace47]

...when..?

[@jayIG]

you're about a year late to the party

[@510DeshawnPlays]

Source: Trust Me Bro

[@warfare1101]

@@AkSpace47 Like a few months or a year ago. Mutahar made a video about it

[@overqwilgaming6614]

Using youtube on a TV is somehow even worse, you get like 1 full minute of unskippable ads sometimes and it’s normally faster to just keep closing and reopening the video in the hopes of getting an unskippable ad about 20 seconds long. And then even after it finishes you have to rewind because they screwed up the syncing and it skips 5 seconds forward

[@Dizzeke]

the fact that my ublock counter goes up steadily while watching this video is a constant reminder how close i am to never using youtube again if this adblocker stops working.

[@nineonine9082]

Just quickly pulled this from Ublock Blocked since install8.849M This is insane, I admit been using it for probably a good few years, but even in the span of a few seconds on the same youtbue tab, I have gone up like by 5.

[@t_gabiuel6058]

This is so relatable. My counter was at 650 at the start and at the end of the video is at 800.

[@bironjames9948]

​@@t_gabiuel6058holy shit

[@AHappyCub]

it stopped working for me atm, waiting for ublock update

[@thetokugawaclan1003]

*looks at the counter* 20 ads blocked *3 hours later* 7.6k ads blocked

[@deloreanman14]

I'm waiting for the day when KZbin uses the forward facing camera and the unskippable ad pauses if you look away from the screen.

[@scienceface8884]

>"Please drink a verification can."

[@Wind-nj5xz]

Let's not give them ideas

[@PhilosophyofElivagar]

This reminds me of that Sony patent that has the user shout the name of the brand to skip the ad 😭

[@sautiksamui7260]

Insider story: Yes they are testing this capability (Just kidding)

[@fedesotilpazzo91]

ill just use ublock and skip that thank you

[@foxtrot889]

The most frustrating thing is that for me the ads are almost exclusively ai "this super secret way to get money from the government," temu and similar trash/scam ads, and alcohol ads. As someone who is several months into getting sober, it's frustrating being forced to watch ads for alcohol. Quite frankly it should be illegal to force unskippable ads for vices like gambling and booze.

[@genkia87]

No kidding. Gambling ads are everywhere on Television alone 💀 can't be bothered to wanna see that shit during my KZbin videos either.

[@SacredMilkOG]

Amen. ❤

[@bigmacreejr]

its illegal (tb the gambling ads) in most of europe im pretty sure, but it wont get stopped here as then ppl would cry "muh freedoms" like they do everytime the u.s governemnt tries to restrict/ban something that needs it, and is already banned in every other 1st world country

[@BrightsunSingh]

You can turn off ads for stuff like that I think

[@Jay_in_Japan]

check your Google account settings before complaining

[@LunaBit985]

There is a fun workaround to adds: if you reload youtube enough times, usually 2-4 times, youtube gives up and doesn't play an add. so if you're internet is good enough to reload youtube a few times, you can just skip every add. also works on mobile if you switch videos back and forth. this also works with the "addblock violates tos" pop up, as I assume that's only triggered if it fails to play an add.

[@MorklebBlack]

The problem is that corporate doesn't use logic. They think if the ad is unskippable, you will be too stupid to click off or look away (like that Black Mirror episode) and because you watched it it will implant in your brain and you will subconsciously have to buy whatever it is. The ads are bad. The placement is bad. If KZbin Premium wasn't so expensive, I'd consider it. But I don't want / need all the things it offers. Personally, I take mental notes of what ads I see and deliberately *don't* choose those items, specifically because they've annoyed me.

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

bro, you got an annoying ad shit list too? thought I was just being vindictive.

[@_indigo_inked]

@@TheBlackwolf5011 Nah bro that’s a relatable experience. I make notes in my mind of the very funny ads from content creators I enjoy and the shitty forced ads that I hate from platforms. If a cc creates an ad read that’s actually funny like Noodle does, then I’ll make an internal note that “if I ever use or want this product I’ll use this creators code” and if their is an annoying ad forced on me by KZbin then it goes on the “absolutely not” list.

[@francotamayo94]

That happened with me and McDonalds, I haven’t eaten in McDonalds since 2016. Well I know that is not going to affect such a big company but hey, it’s a personal thing now.

[@VanillaSpooks]

Same, ads that annoy me I purposely avoid buying their products

[@MrSnowFoxy]

thats why youtube had to shove previously free features like background play into it, because they know it wasnt worth it, so now they are trying to Force you into it by making the free experience as annoying and shitty as possible, and wage war against ways to circumvent these ads, so that Premium is your only choice if youd like to use KZbin Music and KZbin as it was intended by its software engineers. This is the textbook definition of monopolistic behavior that is wholy anti consumer, which makes googles decision to remove the "dont be evil" part of their slogan deeply troubling.

[@guts60]

If AdBlocker services are anything like hackers in any way, they will take this as a challenge and still overcome KZbin’s adblocker-blocker

[@harrycheety]

adblock ultimate has worked for me for 5 years 💀

[@luke-sucks]

if they do add server-side ad injection we're cooked

[@HunterStiles651]

That's exactly what happened last time KZbin tried this. Ublock Origin entered into arms race that lasted for a long time. Then I moved from Chrome to Brave and it's been the better part of a year since I received a KZbin ad. This isn't by any means "The Empire Strikes Back" it's "How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man?"

[@CecilioSprayetti]

Pretty much how it works. KZbin rolls out a new adblock blocker, then my adblock completely bypasses it within 1 or 2 days lol

[@zaramikazuki8374]

Pretty much. I use uBlock Origin and every time YT spends months figuring out a way to block UB, UB strikes back within hours to a day at most. It's honestly amazing and I have a lot of respect for the team behind the extension.

[@Kanerudo]

It's a neverending war; 1) youtube adds ads, ad-blockers are made 2) KZbin does something to block ad-blockers, the ad-blockers get better 3) Repeat 2) until either youtube gives up or goes broke because ad-blockers will never go away

[@BadChess56]

yes

[@TannerEditing]

Lol and the reason they go broke is cuz they're spending too much money to pay people to block the ad-blockers...

[@xtuwu3050]

I am with Ads - Blocker

[@Naturgewalt69]

which ad blocker works atm?

[@suvi6206]

@@Naturgewalt69 i use uBlock origin its working perfectly everywhere

[@dandan1424]

Literally almost every ad I see I can not skip the ad and the ads I see is 1 min long. Also when I just finish watching the ad and skip 10 secs forward or so another ad appear again. I hate this. So many ADS.

[@broski5767]

Do they not understand that the more intrusive they make ads the more it INCENTIVIZES people to get an adblock?

[@FelipeV3444]

Most people don't know, and aren't savvy enough to look it up. Scroll through the comments, many are just giving up and paying for premium.

[@Mr.Reality]

@@FelipeV3444 I don't understand.. I use ublock origin on browser (pc). Firefox with ublock origin on my android phone, (also have the ytube premium app cracked but rarely use it. And a script for twitch. I haven't seen ads in years :D still going strong.

[@saratsuki777]

@@EchoBravo5150 sound's like someone's a corporate kissass

[@chrismclean4789]

@@FelipeV3444 If that were the case, then youtube wouldn't care so much about the adblocks. The overwhelming majority of people are using adblocks.

[@paulharris2331]

@EchoBravo5150 Nice rage baiting. Try harder next time.

[@dvtye3378]

They've been slowly increasing the number of unskippable ads on all of their platforms. On mobile the number of unskippable ads served directly from Google has gone up. On consoles and smart TVs they've gone a step further and put *multiple* unskippable ads one after another, with the very last ad being a skippable one. Basically letting you skip after being forced to watch 3-4 ads.

[@LandonEmma]

I haven’t seen it TBH

[@FauxReal.]

I once got 5 unskippable ads back to back for a video, I then went to forward it like 10 seconds and then got 3 more ads I had to watch, the future is Adverts everywhere the eye can see

[@aquaticalateralis]

Some ads ever BRAG about being unskippable(tampax)

[@Samsquamsh]

THISSSSS. I just got my PC fired up again after using a PS5 for a few months. The ads were absolutely so invasive it would pull you right out of the video you were watching. But hey, that's the new YT experience! yeah!!

[@Seraphim144]

@@aquaticalateralisthats just petty 😡

[@kerravon4159]

If I'm forced to watch an unskippable ad, I make a personal vow to _NEVER_ buy that particular brand of product. I'm sure I'm not alone.

[@callyral]

I just mute it and look away. Can't influence me to buy your product if I physically block your ad from being perceived by me.

[@kerravon4159]

@@callyral Yeah its still pretty easy to avoid ads on YT, I'm talking more about annoying TV ads, but will absolutely apply it to YT ads if they ever become truly adblock proof as YT wants. You force me to watch an ad, and any chance that I might ever buy your product is _gone._

[@saschamarr495]

Same here!

[@ugib8377]

Yeah, it is negative association. It's bad for the platform, and the company that paid to run the ad. Well, as far as reputation goes. Fiscally it's good for the platform.

[@benchno5366]

YEP ive been that way for years. i go out of my way to not buy targeted bs

[@Jayvees]

Nowadays KZbin ads are getting more annoying as the time goes on especially they do an unskippable ads on some certain videos.

[@Onemobkuro]

KZbin is literally borderline unwatchable if you do not have an ad blocker an average 10 to 20 minute video will have 2 to 6 ads on it and they will all be unskippable literally dog shit

[@someguy3263]

So they're pulling the same crap as Twitch?

[@Joeynator3000]

I tried watching a 20 minute video with ads before, it's basically 40 minutes instead.

[@soupofdoom4542]

you are getting a library of millions of hours of content for free btw

[@Polit_Burro]

when they complete their quest to block all ads they will suffer for their efforts. I won't be around except to laugh at them as they go the way of the pay phone.

[@para415]

@@soupofdoom4542 I wish nothing but the worst for you in life.

[@rcarey268]

I promise myself that company’s with 15 sec unskippable ads to never use their products.

[@swordsmancs]

I haven’t experienced this personally but I’ve seen ads that are over an hour long, they’re getting fuckin ridiculous Thankfully I’m freeloading off of my family’s yt premium so I don’t have to deal with any of this but that’s not an option for everyone

[@kiloftd]

brother. i will visit a website once, and get ads for them for goddamn weeks. KZbin has mastered the process of getting me to hate a brand for life by shoving it in my face endlessly.

[@NerdStuffing]

Yeah, me getting KZbin premium was definitely the best thing I did for companies. I keep a list of companies with unskippable ads to never interact with.

[@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf]

Correct. penquinz0 not a business person, but if he was he could ad that KZbin fundamentally does not understand business, management, or marketing. It makes sense, it is an engineering based company that would never hire a professional manager to operate it. KZbin hates *ALL* of it's customers: consumers, content creators, so contributors of all types. But the engineers there ALSO hate the advertisers, the ad-servers, and the ad blockers. It makes sense, engineers, in general, dislike all of humanity. One thing is sure, there is no business in the history of business that has sustained operations indefinitely not putting their customers first. Never has happened, never will. Note the downfall of all financed-owned retailers: JC Penney, Sears, K-mart, Home Depot, Lowes...all financed-owned restaurants in both fast food and middle restaurants. Burger King on the ropes, Mcdonalds on the rapid decline, Kenny Rogers and Big Boys gone, *dozens* of others in the past 15 years. IT based businesses holding on by a thread, often through collusion, Adobe, Microsoft, etc. Businesses that put their customers first all doing fine, Walmart, Amazon, Temu, Space X. The check KZbin is collecting from the government's $29 billion spent on propaganda last must be huge to keep going this way. Regardless of the amount they are taking to shill themselves, they are not going to change. I removed all content from YT as soon as they ramped-up ads and started this ad-blocking nonsense. For me, the site is nearly entirely unusable, and certainly is without ad-block enabled. If they introduced an ad-free experience I would pay my proportional share...$5 per year. They are already getting free content. The arrogance and greed are obvious to everyone but them...because they don't care about their customers at all......

[@AlastorFan5900]

15 secs? out here living the good life.

[@tonyth9240]

And they are constantly increasing the price for premium, which most certainly sounds like an amazing marketing strategy... They really wanna force everyone to buy premium at any cost necessary, and to milk every bit of money from those who -fall for their scam- buy into it. Really a lovely company, isn't it.

[@Rinouka]

agreed', as only reason I use premium is for the music player since spotify and others don't have the genre I want. it is really scummy

[@haomingli6175]

youtube is losing money for google. they found that it is nearly impossible to get non-paying users to pay, so they turn to the people who are already willing to pay, asking for more.

[@Murto84]

Just do what I did last time they tried this. Copy the video URL, paste it into a KZbin downloader, watch it off your harddrive, delete the video when you're done.

[@AKDUGI]

KZbin is a sellout cause og youtube had less ads

[@skinnyman16]

Next step will be youtube Gold, triple the subscription price, because premium will include adds. Not so many, though, just one at a time.

[@RBRT02]

Ads seem so backed in to the video now, that when you go back in the video after ads, you can get ads again. And when ypu skip trough a video you almost only see ads.

[@Eman5780_]

I was one of the people who was subjected to the "soft launch" of pause ads. It is absolutely mindblowing how KZbin continues to make ads even worse and more intrusive just when you thought they couldn't

[@MarIBarrock]

L comment

[@AdrianBrady-m1w]

ads between pauses is disgusting, but PLEASE tell me its not EVERY pause

[@MarIBarrock]

@@AdrianBrady-m1w we don’t care about what you have to say , so shut that shit up dawg

[@uncroppedsoop]

​@@AdrianBrady-m1w to my understanding, it's basically a pop-up ad to the side of the player for every single time you pause yes

[@feha92]

then you can answer something I was wondering: What are the ads? links? still images? videos? audio? videos with audio? If there is audio, does the volume control work? mute? And how much of the screen do they cover (limited to video box, or even just a portion of it?)? Different if fullscreen?