YouTuber arrested for posting videos

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[@Takananoshi]

A 6 year old did get interrogated to all hell when she accidentally stole an eraser before. Yes, this was also in Japan

[@MorePatterrz]

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time innit

[@Takananoshi]

@@MorePatterrz The police are probably just really bored

[@knebaood]

No shot this actually happened 💀

[@Takananoshi]

@@knebaood it's been talked about several times, I just heard it from a podcast lol

[@Nihilisterplayz]

What thats crazy it's an 6 year old they don't know whats wrong from right

[@DarkraiDrive]

Imagine if the US had Japan's copyright laws. Every 5 minutes someone is getting shot by the cops over fortnite epic clips compilation 4

[@johnnysturm3377]

Can happen if you now that every company is globally linked with the big players as YT and others, it is not only Japan.

[@VunderGuy]

"Imagine if the US had Japan's copyright laws." It'd be a relatively healthy mono-culture still dominating global industry by being the single largest resource and industrial producer?

[@DmotionT]

That is funny. This is probably a rumor, police purposefully lay out items out in the open like alcohol in hopes that someone would pick them up, and they arrest them.

[@randomyoutuber2633]

In Japan, they interrogated a 6 year old girl for accidently stealing a eraser, so it might be real.

[@hirohironk9575]

@@randomyoutuber2633 is that actually true?

[@randomyoutuber2633]

@Hiro hironk Yeah, and they have done worse in fact. Nintendo is a prime example of how Japan is very evil when it comes to the law.

[@SlashJaye]

Who would have guessed that a single angle change could make it feel like Pat was in an entirely new room and had an entirely new setup.

[@yorkshirebhoy4049]

8:41 my newphew did just that 😂 on the day Sonic 2 came out and due to his excitement he had no volume control and shouted "I can't believe the showed Shadow at the end" as he walked passed the long que of parents with there kids waiting to go into the next screening of Sonic 2.

[@teylajezebel]

I still remember the early stages of let's play videos on KZbin. Back in the day when companies tried to give out specific permissions to content creators, you for example had to fill in a form with EA to register your YT channel with them, so they wouldn't strike you 😅

[@IciWhy]

Same with Nintendo. XD

[@Shallot3745]

I understand if it was a leak but if it was realesd then☠️💀😊

[@patricklatham3897]

The US has similar issues. Like calling the cops when payment involves the use of a rare, but legal 2 dollar bill. Or fully prosecuting a little boy who is barely over halfway to 10 years old for stealing...a pack of gum. Or cops who steal a citizen's okra plants, claiming they are actually Marijuana. And that's not counting all the times they opened fire or beat someone to death before asking questions.

[@VunderGuy]

Which just goes to the point that the Japanese and Japan are not the special ubermensch animoo lovers and weebs have bought into like good little propagandized snow monkeys, but just mensches who will mess you up for their own set of reasons.

[@xana3961]

The difference here is... the US has fair use protections. Japan does not. What you are discussing is Police going above and beyond what the law is *supposed* to allow them to do. Meanwhile, in Japan, arresting someone for lets plays is not only legal, but actually legally justified as copyright infringement. Trust me, whatever you think is going on here in the US, it would be 100x worse if it was happening in Japan. Not to downplay the shit show here on the homefront, its just to say that "there is a difference between whats happening here."

[@patricklatham3897]

@@xana3961 Fair point.

[@animefanrk2k]

Yeah, so in Japan, the rules on Lets Plays, reviews, and other fair use ideas doesn't exist. Some publishers do extend explicit permissions to upload reviews, gameplay footage, etc. There are large agencies in Japan that also negotiate the rights to play games/show gameplay footage too.

[@yarc9]

japan is in the stone ages

[@cleverman383]

This explains why Vtubers need permissions for everything they play or react to

[@jamesfzy]

I should also point out this extends to EVERYTHING in Japan. You can't even mention a product casually or tangentially in like a talk show without prior approval. It is why a lot of people usually use pseudonyms instead.

[@cleverman383]

@@jamesfzy It's a lot like Hollywood films. Ever notice how vending machines in movies have either fake products or products turned the wrong direction so you can't see what they are?

[@RaphielShiraha64]

​@@cleverman383 Which is the reason if i ever become a vtuber someday i will never join a agency or anything like that, i will just be a normal content creator with maybe a few collabs and patreon.

[@raindancejam9466]

Ah, the joys of fair use or lack thereof~

[@Shalakor]

I demand all the KZbinrs who haven't played the original Steins;Gate visual novel start uploading their own first playthroughs of that game in protest to this arrest (not any of the re-releases or spin-offs like the game in the article, Especially not S;G: Elite). Totally want to see that just for the sake of protest, not because it's an amazing story if you can make it through the whole thing and I just want more people to experience it.

[@VunderGuy]

LOL. Like the Japanese care what baka gaijin think or domestic law breakers. Seriously. There are only a handful trees arguably more wrong that you could be barking up that just do not and will continue not to care. You have any idea how insular and exclusionary the Far East, Japan included, is?

[@emeraldfinder5]

“It’s not just sunshine, rainbows, and hentai over there”. I was not ready for that line 😂

[@TheCatBehind]

Japan law and police are just... like that.

[@Alster26]

Japan has insane copyright laws. There was a KZbin channel where it got shut down and the creators got fined or arrested for uploading movie reviews that included clips of the movies.

[@luckluca8982]

I heard the same applies to fan work and cosplay of IPs if the author doesn't give permition

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content man!😊😊

[@ACT8113]

What surprises me is there are multiple lp's of this game and none of them seem to have been copyright claimed/striked yet this man is the exception?

[@LimbaZero]

Some steam VN games has mention in license that you can basically stream few first chapter that you don't spoil the story. Basically VN don't have anything more than story so don't buy and just watch some playthrough / all ending video. That's basically watching movie in stream with audience. Note: Usually those that have more game play elements than just selecting story branches are more ok with streaming.

[@JohnAlzayat]

52-year old gaming KZbinrs and 6-year old eraser thieves have a lot in common apparently.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

The video game medium allows for many things: you can make comics, movies, music basically every other medium can be recreated in a video game and i do have to say. Copyright law isn't designed with video games in mind, but all other mediums would suffer if a youtuber where to completely reupload them. Answer this: would you buy a video game comic if you saw everything in it?

[@RaphielShiraha64]

Sometimes i wish all companies were just like sega at least in terms of handling you know, fan content, let's plays, videos and etc. Like call sega games/sonic games crap as much as you want now days, is still a fact they're awesome in regards of handling content made by fans, be it fangames, let's plays or general content creators.

[@laquandrastevenson8895]

At this point Patterz should just make a law channel

[@jayltonsenpai]

So.... when will you go to a less criminal carreer, like drug dealing Also the guy probably got arrested cause Steins Gate is also an anime, and Kurisu is number 1 anime waifu

[@maliciousfry]

Wait a second... you know a girl from the game! YOU'RE A WEEB!✨

[@minecraftfumingwow]

"based on my research on the steam tab" hmhmmm

[@Tiwaass]

I love patterz mogul mail

[@lucygirl1111]

we were talking about this during the stream ^^

[@antidotebrain69]

The legal system really needs to adjust to the existence of the Internet. This whole thing recently about copyright, KZbin and even the AI controversy, are terribly stupid and entirely due to outdated laws. You can't really enforce a lot of copyright rights on the internet. If you put something on the internet, it's there forever. Chances are it has been copied, used in data sets, screen shot, and outright used by someone for something.

[@Hytraz_]

9:35 when you are zelda 💀

[@MaiSakurajoestar]

Whoa new camera angle unlocked!

[@Proudtman]

I personally love spoilers! Although i wouldn't spoil a piece of media, or book unless people want that

[@CupOfCheese]

Like ya new setup

[@MrMoasn]

I’m so surprised that this wasn’t Nintendo

[@theanimatormustachegrunt3307]

Yeah Nintendo has a very aggressive copyright law *oh that's make sense now*

[@SakuraFruitTube]

I wonder if he can get bailed out by donations from his fans, and oversea supporters. I do find this case really sad. 2 years is a lot. I can't imagine having 2 birthdays in jail. I wonder why just demonotizing the video is not enough. KZbin does it automatically all the time, with its scanning, and I'm sure he probably barely made enough to pay his lawyer with ad revenue he got from it too. I think he made the videos purely because he loves the game and anime, and not for the measly ad revenue. The big companies who can afford a far better lawyer are being real bullies to their actual fan.

[@tapuchris-cb9jy]

I think that Japan is just weird when it comes to the internet.

[@vearst1287]

I cant believe he spoiled john wick now I know there will be no flying dog in the movie

[@tylerbartlett28]

I didnt know american cops were in japan too

[@pixadragon46]

Wait pat does not know steins gate ?!

[@Nihilisterplayz]

You can throw the fair use argument in japan out the window very outdated system over there the u.s has one tho can upload reviews transform it gameplay vids give out criticism this is what happens when you have a lack of fair use can be arrested..

[@bunsglazing]

New angle POG?

[@krystaloftheshores]

I wonder if these are the kind of police in Japan who inspired the nature of the police in the Pokemon games. Real crime: “Meh, we’ll get to it when we get to it.” KZbin uploads a video of themself playing a game: “ARREST THEM IMMEDIATELY!!!”

[@krystaloftheshores]

*KZbinr

[@waffles7z]

TBF, they were spoiling the endings. Like, I upload visual novel music, and I have to try my best to not spoil anything. And Steins;Gate Dating Sim? That vn was serious as hell from what I've heard, it'd make no sense to do that. but then again Fate is gigantic so I guess it does make sense to do it.

[@seki108]

Um, even the original VN had straightforward romance, so it's not that weird to branch out for a spin off. Of course, the whole core premise is is different timelines essentially, so the romance VN does take place in the more peaceful timelines seen in a few endings of the original and other spin offs....just for some extra distance.

[@hybridvenom9]

KZbin game play i don't even know what that even is but now i do i hate it

[@foxmask0534]

Were you in a yakuza ? Gotte say damm nice

[@bewearstar9462]

Japan update your copyright laws You haven't updated them since 1999 add laws for video sharing websites like youtube to specific whats complete priracy and not.

[@SunnyPopsicles]

Should I get sword/shield or scarlet/violet?

[@yarc9]

Scarlet and violet

[@lordtoomas]

S/V, I personally enjoyed gen 8 and gen 9 despite what everyone says about them, I'd definitely get both at some point though

[@christophermartinez8836]

Stick with Sword and Shield for now. Scarlet and Violet are buggy unfinished games. Sure they fixed some of the bugs, but they're still very buggy.

[@ChrissaTodd]

this isn't a shock remember when smosh did their pokemon lip sync video and it was taken down and they fought back saying it was a parody

[@Xenado22]

Its just Spy Family don't pronounce the X

[@Emerald-Fluffie]

Awh, why couldn’t it have been Pat /j

[@piplup2884]

Lmao.

[@lazarjevtic1941]

How is there 8 likes but 1 view if you don't count me

[@Linkrato]

Meh...

[@cleverman383]

alternative title: British Man tells Country of Japan that their laws are wrong

[@DarkMarxSoul]

He's right.

[@emeraldfinder5]

America did it to Japan in the 1800s, so why not

[@tieranalexander4475]

I actually think calling uploading a Virtual Novel playthrough crime is totally justifiable. It's just like uploading a copy of a book as a PDF to download for free. You're giving people the ability to "read" the VN for free. This only applies if the video isn't edited to cut scenes and actually make good content instead of just being a screen share of you reading though.

[@Shalakor]

But we're also taking about a game that likely has multiple routes you need to make choices for. There is player input. Besides, news articles are copyrighted, and are linear, too, so I guess anyone sharing this story on KZbin and showing footage of the text on the website is a pirate. Time to lock Pat up. ...But, seriously, do we even know if it was the copyright holders themselves that sent the police after this guy in the first place, or is the legal system trying to make a statement of their own volition?

[@Rubywing4]

I think I've heard/read that the crime rate in Japan is very low, at least when it comes to serious crimes like theft, robbery, murder, assault, etc., probably because Japanese people are typically raised to take politeness and honor VERY seriously and not inconvenience anyone. So I can totally believe that the only real reason why people in Japan are getting arrested for uploading gameplay videos is because Japan already has dealt with all the serious crime and the police are now bored and will do anything to keep their jobs, even if it's about arresting a simple KZbin gamer or interrogating a 6-year old who accidentally stole an eraser. The police aren't necessarily malicious. They're just bored and want something to do lol.

[@angelaperez5248]

Interesting ♨now 🌟💗

[@VunderGuy]

I love how you call it the 'seedy underbelly' of Japan when really this is just how the Japanese have, are, and will always continue to operate and it's not really clandestine in any way, but very open and unapologetically open about. The Japanese rigorously defending their property from all threats foreign and domestic? Next you'll tell me they really like Ramen noodles over there!