All 6 DLC Spell Catalysts Ranked! Seal & Staff Guide. Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree

Which Seal or Staff is best to use? Elden Ring sacred Seals, Staves tier list. PATCH 1.12 PVE.
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INTRO 0:00
6 CARIAN SORCERY SWORD 0:27
5 SPIRALTREE SEAL 2:16
4 FIRE KNIGHT'S SEAL 3:24
3 MATERNAL STAFF 4:35
2 STAFF OF THE GREAT BEYOND 7:33
1 DRYLEAF SEAL 9:16
NEXT VIDEO? 11:02

[@youwy]

UPDATE: Carian Sorcery Sword has been buffed! It ties for the best staff at 40 int with the demi human staff. However, at 60+ int it is not as good as most of the other staves in the game. It is a lot more viable of an option now.

[@Data-AnalystSera]

Also be prepped for the Impenetrable Thorns nerf, bleed on spells is explicitly not supposed to scale with the arcane of the catalyst, it was a nerf done way back in 1.03. It's a bug which is juicing the spell's performance into unreasonable territory

[@Paperbat]

@@Data-AnalystSera this is wrong, bleed on spells is supposed to scale with catalysts arcane. they just nerfed it slightly, but its still supposed to

[@ahd1092]

@@Data-AnalystSerai use it without investing in arcane so itll be fine. its amazing still, it does really good dmg and still inflicts bloodloss pretty often with no arc investment

[@Asriel_Cypher]

Even while buffed, pretty disappointing. Thought it would buff up Carian Slicer a lot more, making it more aesthetic as well as powerful choice moving forward in the DLC but nope. I was also hoping that this weapon would allow us to imbue with its own AoW, so that we can get more damage or survivability option but might be too OP for PvP folks.

[@woodchipdust]

Providing the chart at the beginning instead of at the end, Youwy da 🐐

[@JPJonesBSc]

Spitting in the face of the algorithm, what a hero

[@ac1dnet]

common youwy W

[@TwoSpiritPenguin]

R.E.S.P.E.C.T this channel just earned a sub

[@JB-xl2jc]

When a creator does stuff like this it inspires loyalty enough that even if I have all the info I need I let the video play on in the background without sound, to pump those viewership metrics

[@wolflavellan2170]

Honestly it really makes coming back to the video better as well.

[@xxnightmarexx_pr6069]

I love the fact that you talk about the scaling at different levels instead of just ranking them, this is why this channel is amazing

[@sebashormaza]

Yeah I love that most people just say basic stuff he shows the numbers which is great for mid maxing

[@M.A.R.S.]

Agreed, putting thing under a rank simplifies every reason why it's that rank, defeating the purpose

[@jaydenwebster7510]

I was under the impression that Staff of the Great Beyond had terrible spell scaling. I'm pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong. I'm very excited to get my hands on it.

[@yadeel8281]

It’s really not that bad at all. I’m around 70 faith and int right now and I used it for about half the DLC (in Journey 2 btw). The damage isn’t the most optimal, but it’s still good enough, especially if you know what you’re doing. The only time I switched to individual staves and seals was during certain bosses, specifically the final boss

[@FurtiveCutless]

It's totally fine at the kind of level you'd be stopping for PvP. At high stats and compared to casting tools dedicated for a single spell type it's going to be weaker but that's a reasonable tradeoff for convenience. At 45/45, it's literally the strongest int/fth staff and by a decent margin as well.

[@ethanalspencer7294]

It’s fantastic. The versatility of being able to have one spell for every elemental damage type (including physical with gravity sorceries!) always ready to go means if you play smart and deduce what things are weak to you always have a good damage option. Plus it just promotes a really fun variety playstyle. Put it with rellana’s swords, SoNaF, or any of the smithsciprt weapons that get SDIF scalings and you feel like you’re getting a huge variety of options in a playthrough.

[@jakeryan2805]

@@yadeel8281 I keep seeing lots of people saying its thier second or third time through the dlc. Are you guys literally beating the game and going to ng +1,2,3 ect? Or are you cloud saving, and just restarting from and old save?

[@yadeel8281]

@@jakeryan2805 This isn’t my second time through the DLC. I played through the whole game once and played through it again on Journey 2 all before the DLC came out. I didn’t make a new character going into the DLC I just used the same save, so I’ve only beaten it once

[@Cazzacker]

This has become my info channel of choice for the new Elden ring content

[@seanconnors1613]

This channel and Chrightt

[@imbatmanlol]

@@seanconnors1613nah just youwy

[@backerthehacker3700]

Vaati for lore rusty for entertainment youwy for when you want to actually git gud

[@ToasterDsG]

​ @imbatmanlol Chrightt actually takes into account several factors that Youwy doesnt, like motion values, use cases, pvp viability, and weaknesses. He's also informed on the fact that split damage isn't actually shit anymore. For a guy that likes optimizing the fun outta a game, Youwy also gets a lot of shit wrong.

[@DronesOverTheMoon]

​@@ToasterDsG This. Youwy has lots of dubious takes when ranking his weapons

[@Brokenfirealarm]

The sorcery sword is good only for using non-attack magic like Thops's Barrier or Scholar Shield so you don't have to switch between your weapon and staff.

[@franciscobarata2045]

Yeah, this sword definitely favors sorceries that don't rely on catalyst scaling - Scholar Shield, like you mentioned, would work well with this (especially because it's a thrusting sword, shield poke for days), Miriam's Vanishing. You could even go with Fia's Mist, since you only need to care about the minimum stats to cast the sorcery.

[@NorthernDruid]

it is also a way of having a weapon, shield AND staff at the same time without having to switch weapons.

[@knightgabriel1311]

Yeah it’s good for shield poking since it’s a thrusting sword and you can easily cast scholar’s shield

[@austinmccon2759]

Night maidens mist all day

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I get that, but at the very least give it a passive buff to melee sorceries to give it some more versatility. As it stands it only favors low INT builds

[@Homiloko2]

4:27 That's the first time I noticed Radagon's goddamn bakery down there

[@darthkarl99]

um what?

[@nosgon]

Bros got his eyes on the prize

[@deedatkhan5072]

At level 713, dragon communion has higher scaling than golden order for some reason

[@devincuthbertson155]

Yeah mine was better by a bit too and I'm high level too. I went to switch them just now because they're both +10 but realized one was very clearly better and kept my dragon seal on lol

[@JR-vy4zp]

I love how straight to the point and concise these videos are, much appreciated content.

[@sheriffjesus8]

I'm always excited when you post a new video, I know what I'm going to watch during my post work workout.

[@PoisonJarl71501]

One of the most informative videos I’ve seen for Elden ring. Bravo brother. Exquisite detail

[@WinstonWolfe21]

I love how much info Youwy shares in these vids. U should be proud of the quality of ur ER vids sir. 🙏

[@XochiCh]

Oof, and here I was, excited to actually play a Sword & Board Mage-Knight using the Carian Sorcery Sword instead of a regular staff… Edit: I know it’s buffed, guys, I just haven’t beaten the true Moghlester Lord. And haven’t started a second character.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

just wait for the inevitable buff. And I mean inevitable, the incant scaling on the sword still scales with intelligence instead of its best attribute (dex), so it's just a matter of making the spells scale with dex, or making it scale better with int, or a myriad of choices.

[@XochiCh]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Well, that sounds nice, everything I’ve seen in this DLC is really amazing and opens up a lot of opportunities, but it’s underpowered compared to base game stuff, and I really, REALLY want them to at least be competitive with base game, I’m running “Cleanrot” build with Rot and Miracles, and the only thing I added since the DLC is the Crucible wings.

[@LeviGothymn]

I think even if it’s not fantastic doing builds that are themed are cooler than doing only what’s meta anyway

[@berzerk-_-fury5470]

Carian thrusting shield. Staff in right hand, use the thrusting shield for melee without swapping weapons, while still having a decent shield.

[@Ecliptor.]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd you shouldn't expect buffs, they always leave a lot of underpowered stuff without any change in these games. It's cool that they finally separated pvp from pve though, and it seems that they are more willing to make changes since that happened, but yeah I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[@Affiiance]

Killing it with the videos dude!

[@Beanie-Babe]

yo man, respect the hell out of you. been watching the rankings over the past week or so, your info is always so accurate and you provide a great insight on all the reasons why you rank things the way you do. youre the goat man

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

HOLY CRAP almost 100k subscribers! And half of that in less than a year... Congratulations, man🎉🎉🎉

[@sshoefo]

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[@redajun2593]

Unbelievably good info in this video. Subbed

[@karmascamera5275]

So...the *Carian Sorcery Sword* is a Carian sword that doubles as a catalyst...but doesn't boost Glintblade Sorceries... Excuse me, but what the actual f-?

[@Ratt611]

Epic content lately, one of the best ER channels. ❤

[@faceface8802]

You’re killing these videos brotha.

[@invader703]

A video on your favorite weapons regardless of in game power could be cool. Or a general review of the DLC. Either way I started watching when you originally ranked the builds in elden ring and you've improved how I build my characters a shitload and I basically watch every video now. Thanks Youwy!

[@Vanaolla]

Already made it for the base game Mentions his favourites in the best dlc weapons video

[@PenultimatePenPen]

Absolutely fantastic choice showing the chart, I always forget which are better

[@Grenzgengar]

Yo Youwy i really liked how you talked about max level in this one. Would love if you could always do that in your videos if it fits. Really helps with my max level loadout. There are not many creators who talk about that in their videos (which is understandable)

[@Chyguy]

Personally, I prefer comfortable play over optimized play, so when I get around to doing my int/fth build again I'll certainly be using the Great Beyond. So long as a dual stat casting tool can reach 320 or above at 60/60 it is worth using in my opinion.

[@jasonmendoza2044]

Yep things start to get too op at a certain point anyways

[@xAndrewWolf]

Right before the dlc I made a split build with blasphemous and moonlight it was so annoying having all my slots filled no diddy 😅I also used black knife

[@xAndrewWolf]

Great order and prince are good but it’s way easier not having to switch I was waiting for a dual cast tool

[@migraine9402]

​@@xAndrewWolf the new dual cast staff is goated on the right hand with a dueling shield on the left hand for viscerals

[@tylercurrey3456]

I personally have my int/fai at 46/46 currently and my incant scaling is 310

[@mikeauditore881]

Bro is out here producing 10/10 vids, I'm loving the info! ❤

[@andrewbonifacio2914]

Thanks youwy great video

[@Jakieboi]

Great video! No adds, no bs, straight to the point! Have my Sub!

[@gamefreak7273]

That is an amazining video of explaining everything in details.thnx

[@trunkmonkey8792]

Nice video bro😄

[@fishman432]

Goated video goated streamer day 10

[@vexoarr]

Bro you've been gaining like 10k subs a day! 100k by tomorrow, I'm calling it! Keep up the good work!

[@asdrewyeq]

Whats good youwy GANG! 🐐

[@gryphus878]

You provide the most objective opinions on stuff and also the best information out there, keep up the good work !

[@OD91MJ]

Thank you for the video.

[@translucentsquirrelofdarkn7138]

it would be cool if the carian sorcery sword had a hitbox when casting melee sorceries, so like with carian slicer you'd hit with both the spell and the sword at once, giving it an edge.

[@lordtrinen2249]

I was praying they'd add something like Staff of the Great Beyond. Love spellcaster builds and hated having to switch catalysts with hybrid builds. I expected the versatility to come at the cost of a damage reduction but I'm fine with that. Also like the staff design.

[@Zetheek]

Had no idea we had a staff that could use both till I saw this comment, thanks gonna go get it

[@Ofs182]

Showing the chart at the beginning is a big W. Followed.

[@brucel6413]

Came from TikTok. Your vids are great🎉

[@requiem9167]

Just beat the dlc and now im watching all of your videos lol

[@liamstrand9295]

Thank you 🫡

[@virtualsaturn89]

Man, when I first looted that sword and read the item description I screamed "blue flame is back!" internally and was sooo disappointed at the performance. Really hope the scaling gets fixed in a patch it doesn't need S scaling but as long as it gets spellbuff at least comparable to the weaker staffs it will still be fun.

[@pinnacleevolution1634]

Yeah I don't expect a sword to be the best staff in the game but at least I expected it to be better than the early game staff that can't even be upgraded.

[@YEY0806]

Dark Souls 2 really spoiled us with good weapon catalysts

[@kurokaen1234]

Love the staff of the great beyond, i swear miyazaki reading my mind somewhere cuz i wanted an ability to sekiro deflect/lies of p perfect guard and a staff that can cast spells and incantations

[@Vioblight]

Great video! Thanks for saying which spells are miquellas

[@avEn_12]

the 100k subs are sooo closeeee😊

[@jessehudson9566]

I’m still rocking the frenzied flame seal but I might have to try out that dry leaf seal for my troubles

[@Masterchiefs187]

I don’t think Youwy broke his upload streak. What a G

[@mannytprimeministerofthemanate]

4:19 youwy trying his hardest to make fire rain do something and failing is hilarious to me

[@hunterpalmer3183]

10:20 IT DOES WHAT!! I need to know more, my current build is a golden order build by using all the rings of light spells. I would really love a video on the dry leaf seal and other equipment to know how all of this interacts with each other, so far as i know no one is really talking about the seals and spells of the dlc.

[@Kylekashi]

The streak remains alive!

[@TacDonut]

My og character is a 50/50 split faith int build. I can’t wait to get into this dlc!

[@Sadoruro]

Thanks for the video ! Could you make an in-depth ranking of sorcery staves please ? I have a hard time deciding between Lusat and Azur staves (the only two I want to use for cosplaying reasons) with matching crown and spells. I enjoy throwing maxed out Stars of Ruin with Lusat (especially for dodging ennemies), but Azur (with Comet) is many time the only choice allowing me to cast spells if the boss put a hard pressure on me (because of cast speed).

[@darkphoenix2]

So much goofy balance in this game. I feel like things could be so much simpler so that optimizing damage didn't require constant experimenting with a stat as inscrutable as "incant scaling". Of course, damage doesn't matter that much if you can't even use half your spells on a boss because they're too slow for how little damage you get.

[@jstar3382]

Maternal staff has the best arcane scaling so now that's the bleed staff

[@Grizzly.Glint.]

Good video

[@bud_kleric2771]

We need more catalysts that casted both and or a weapon to cast incantations

[@somersaultinggiraffe1901]

Dryleaf Arts with casting L1's would be peak

[@SecretMarsupial]

8:00 the best way to mitogate the damage ossue os by using the appropriate talismans as both versions of the the incant and sorcery talismans that boost damage can be used together

[@JadedJasantha]

Astounding that From went through all of the work putting so many new casting options in just to make them obsolete before the dlc came out.

[@DJIronChef]

I've seen the thorn sorcery spell nuke so much stuff it's crazy. Good data. Spirit ashes? Oh man I'm hype. How good is Taylew ACTUALLY like an FSW Pokémon video lmao 🎉🎉

[@vicantirasumovski4375]

Stuff of Great Beyond is great to have all the utility and buff spell at your beck and call paired with weapons like Sword of Night and Flame and Rellana's Twin Blades that scales from Int and Faith.

[@danielpatterson1576]

I plan to use the Great Beyond because I like having a mix of incants and sorceries, but I’d rather have the convenience of not having to constantly manage the menu since there are other ways of boosting my spell damage beyond just base scaling. It is nice to know though that Dryleaf boosts all the Order incantations too, not just Multilayered. I use Discus a ton, so that’ll be convenient for the off hand passive as a replacement for the Golden Order seal.

[@programmer437]

Staff of the great beyond is great for a 60 int/faith build that wants to primarily use sorceries but also have access to things like golden vow, law of regression, and heals.

[@ItachiUchiha-69]

Hey, test briars of sin with the staff of the guilty for me please? I found it strange you didn’t include it. Wouldn’t that be the most optimized option or is the staff you mentioned better?

[@The.Nasty.]

I will say… after a little testing, the Carian Sorc Sword pairs EXCELLENTLY with the Carian Thrusting Shield and its Shield Strike skill… You get a block and a strike attack combo from the shield, and the spell casting and thrusting from the sword. I was surprised at how smooth mixing up the physical attacks were, it was a build that felt good once you played with it for a bit.

[@Deadpooln2b]

am happy the int/faith staff is good, am using golden order seal with sword of night and flame, dlc gave me a lot of cool int/faith equipment, like relannas twin light greatswords and the scriptsmith weapons. also new faith sorceries. DLC SO FUCKING GOOD

[@jasonmendoza2044]

Yep I was glad I decided to go with my Fai/Str dude for my first play through 🦾

[@derekwedge09]

For the seals that boost a spell group is it better to have two or just one in the office hand? Thinking of fire Knight and the one that boosts spiral spells

[@DARCYXD]

Had no idea you could use that sword for spells lol Was disappointed when i found it but thats a dope feature

[@griegomas]

Youwy with the numbers.

[@jimmusthegrimmace]

for the staff of teh great beyond, its great for niche builds that actually use the utility side of one of the spell schools and damage from the other. i play str/fth, i would love this staff as it lets me use one casting focus to apply both scholar shield to my fingerprint and my faith buffs/healing.

[@d1ode]

Never clicked on a video so fast

[@drurywalker]

I really appreciate the testing and time and speed of these videos, but I think it would be really funny if you ranked something that we only got like 2 of, just to see the thumbnail saying ALL 2 _____

[@Shogun534]

what talismans do you recommend with the dryleaf seal + golden order seal combo?

[@blxby3376]

good shit

[@AlexanderForsman]

Dragon communion seal is better at lvl +150 as it laks a softcap after 30 for bothe Arcane anf Faith

[@juliancamacho3837]

Damn bro you even made a chart with complimenting level for the staffs and seals!? Damn bro you kick ass

[@gingerbread3686]

5:00 There are some int arc weapons. Both of the Echoaid weapons scale with these stats more or less directly. Especially their ash of war so paired with those that staff might not be the worst option to use.

[@Jay_Z33]

thx. waiting for DLC unique ashes of war tier list ^^

[@Molimo95]

How much incant boost are the boosts to specific spell schools worth? I know I can look the % up on the wiki but I don't know how that translates to the incant/sorc boost stat.

[@kalenwilliams5210]

Question , with my current stats , I get my highest scaling from the frenzy flame seal , I should just use that right until that changes ?

[@hellhound_4286]

one thing with the staff of the great beyond, it lets you have incants, sorceries, AND a weapon all at once. sure its not "optimal" as far as numbers go, but the utility is undeniable!

[@Ecliptor.]

Agreed on the weapon catalyst. I think it's definitely good to have cool/fun stuff in the game that isn't quite optimal, but it sucks when they're so bad.

[@LunarValkyria]

I kinda want to try some spell combos between sorcery and incantations. I feel like going 80/80 is kinda ridiculous so the great beyond staff is good for me. The most I see myself going is 60/60. Gravatation Missile + Multilayered Ring of Light sounds like a fun combo.

[@manab787]

Staff of the great beyond is all that ive wanted for a pure caster. I can cast everything at max speed with azur in the offhand and have the convenience of not checking if it was a sorcery or incantation. Just experiment with all combinations!

[@dereklol8310]

do the 20% special bonuses stack? like if i have a dragon communion seal in my offhand and one in my main hand, do the two 20% bonuses stack or do they cap out at 20%?

[@Eddy_Kusanagi]

So if your max level, which staff should you use? I use staff of loss in each hand for night sorceries. Are there stronger staffs and spells combinations at max level?

[@kevinhadj9714]

Power stance the Carian Sword with the Frozen Needle main hand for some fun spamming frost bolt and night shards. The spell cast then replace the Ash of War button. *pew pew pew* :) I feel there is an easy way to make it more viable though, while not completly broken : just make the sorcery scale off of DEX in addition to INT (similar to Frenzied Seal).

[@sparker455]

so i get with the scaling certain seals/staves become better but if i wanted to use lets say Black Flame as my main damaging incantation, would the god slayer seal be better at 80 faith or would the erdtree seal be better

[@ThorKAH]

At 54 str/30 fth i get 271 incant with beast seal, mind making a video where you do something on that?

[@cableryge]

i wonder if you are actually using both incant and sorcery if you factor in the time to switch out talisman for staff would the dps be technically higher in some secnarios with the great beyond staff

[@Kacper-jw3bv]

So if im max level the best seal is golden order one and the best staff is lusats? Or do i just place lusat in the offhand for the damage boost and use other one

[@domin8tion651]

Is luscats staff still going to be the best just for damage no matter the level? Ignoring the additional fp cost

[@XonixDerps]

So does the carian sorc sword get a bonus from multi hits using carian? Or does it still perform poorly even with that D:

[@MetalthinkerYT]

The thing of the great beyond is the combos and that you can and should pair it with azur's.

[@Th3_Raven]

I'm hoping that the Carian Thrusting Sword is bugged given how bad its spell scaling seems to be. That and if Fromsoft were to actually display its casting value on the weapon info (below the critical multiplier like on staves) it would be a lot nicer.

[@corneliuslung3259]

How does the Dragon Communion Seal stack up against these new seals? Or is it not applicable because of the different stat scaling?

[@_lalapop]

just found this channel after the dlc. it's no nonsense, all information from a likable source. keep up the excellent work

[@theonegunny4902]

solitude knight set vs rakshasa set I have to equipment load so what is better the more defense or offense.

[@willybiggs-rj6qt]

a catalyst that casts spells and incants my dream come tru (i called it check the receipts)

[@soliditize845]

I'm doing a Destructo Disc build atm.. Would I use dryleaf and golden order seal at all times ? I'm at 50 faith 17 Int. I basically sped ran to the dlc. so stats arent that high yet.

[@ArBleizhMor]

Any advice on a build that would make use of the 80/80 max damage from the golden order seal and not be complete garbage due to the resource investment?