Yu-Gi-Oh! Has A Major Problem

[@spidersonic0110]

For any game, giving players more options to play how they want will always lead to a happier playerbase overall

[@AmazonessKing01]

Didn't work with Runeterra, you could say whatever you want about the game, but formats didn't help one bit, you are just dividing your playerbase further, if you need to have alternative game modes so the game is fun, maybe the problem is with the game. You are not solving anything that way, just a temporary solution at best that only restricts which cards can you use further without actually adressing the problem.

[@mattyorshin]

This is why I play rush duel. It's simpler and fun. Has that boss monster feel

[@connerpaul9401]

A great example of this is pokemon showdown. There's tons of formats and formats that include older generation rulesets. Something like this for yugioh would be relatively easy to introduce in master duel and the ocg, the tcg would have some problems but I feel like that only matters for tournaments

[@koopatroopagamer2854]

Odd example but a good display of this is in WWE 2K23. The core mechanics of the game are instilled in every mode: the grapples, the slams, the weapons, the different spots, the pins, everything. What changes is the way those matches can and are played out and why they’re played out. You want it to be a trading card game? MyFactions. You want to screw around in the different modes it gives you? Exhibition mode. You want to script the matches? Play with a friend and do it that way. You want to make your own shows? MyGM. You want to make your own brand? MyUniverse. You don’t like the matches it gives you? Make your own. You don’t like the arenas in the game? Make your own! You don’t like the wrestlers themselves??? MAKE YOUR OWN!!! Its a bunch of ways to do the same thing and it makes it so much more fun. YuGiOh would benefit greatly from something like that.

[@derrickjuinor]

Anything can be done in the game whether its battles items and decks

[@connerpaul9401]

I played yugioh as a kid and got back into it recently and my three biggest complaints are that turns take too long with all the summons, too many negates to shut down the opponent, and a ton of cards that're good but aren't good enough to compete against modern decks. There needs to be formats so you can play average decks without getting constantly bodied once you reach high ranks.

[@magus_series]

I agree. I can enjoy the game; even if I lose, if it was a well played match. I dislike watching my opponent throw cards around for 3 mins then WHATEVER I play is negated.

[@chriswright8074]

It's a lot of B's I'm sorry but you can play from the deck field and banish it be to much nonsense going effect on top of effects

[@halftime814]

​@@magus_seriesI'm telling you I hate when they do that I that point I don't even look at the screen to see what they doing I just be on social media till they done..lol

[@magus_series]

@@halftime814 lol the only time I even stay in the match is if I have missions completed otherwise I just leave. Someone was BMing me with a similar deck that I was playing, very slowly. I had to stay for missions so I started clicking on their mate and my field constantly to try to get them to end it. Why would I want to watch you run every combo in your deck, we have the same engine?!

[@halftime814]

@magus_series I play someone who damn near use his whole deck in the first turn of the duel 🤣 the time it was my turn he only had 15 cards left in his deck by then it was pretty much game for him cause the monsters he had in play were basically canceling everything I did..lol the game literally turn into whoever goes first wins..lol

[@adamarradaza7786]

My only concern with ever getting older formats in Master Duel is that MD primarily follows the OCG (Japan’s) banlist. It’s why cards are Maxx C, Verte Anaconda, and Chaos Ruler are still legal while cards like Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon is banned. If we get older formats in MD, its most likely gonna more resemble the cards that japan had at the time, not NA. It’ll mostly be the same, but cards like The Tricky, Magician of Black Chaos, and Blue-Eyes Ultimate would be included even though they aren’t in our retro format. It makes me wonder how popular retro formats are in Japan. If their player base is begging for it too, I think we’d have a fighting chance to get what we wish.

[@rhymestyle]

That’s a very good point

[@Grimlax22493]

But an awesome idea with these old formats is to have an ever changing ban/forbidden list so that we wouldn't have this "issue" where a card changes a whole meta

[@vaporworks5245]

If they made GOAT official, even in stores, I would get back to the game immediatly. I stopped playing in 2008, tried to re experience my childhood through magic, but that didn't cut it. I want old yugioh back, please make it happen!

[@Pkmnkuriboh]

100% agree, formats would be so good. Goat, Edison etc. Maybe exclusive extra deck type formats like a fusion or synchro format where the extra deck is only composed of those specific monster types. And maybe outright banning archetypes or engines like tearlements or pile decks rather than just having a couple pieces on the ban list

[@kevins79999]

I started playing master duel when it came out and played old school decks like dm for a whole year but I got really bored with it so I started picking up newer decks and I fell in love with yugioh all over again I personally love the fast pace and complexity that is in the game now a days but I understand people who prefer the old style of play,.

[@TVlord5]

See I like it when I have the cards to support it...but it takes a lot of time or money to actually build a cohesive deck.

[@IamRebored]

I remember when I first started playing and trying to learn the different mechanics, I was like "Okay I get what XYZ monsters do" then someone brought out Zeus using a rank 4 monster and I was like, "How?!".

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

I mean you would instantly understand how that's possible by reading the card.

[@chriswright8074]

​@@ZeothTheHedgehogI'm sorry but it's to much reading nowadays

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

@@chriswright8074 it's the first line of text

[@IamRebored]

@@ZeothTheHedgehog I think I ended up reading Zeus's card last. I looked in the gy reading other effects thinking I missed something.

[@SephirothLionheart]

​@ZeothTheHedgehog it's not the how. Its that you shouldn't be able to. Like fusion summoning without materials (runick) or spells (branded/tearlament). Zeus was and still is ridiculous as a card. In terms of speed of the game, it's been all downhill since xyzs started releasing. Just watch team Sam's duel nights. It still retains its overall balance and turn by turn play even during synchros.

[@isaiahdominguez8882]

The OG format is what I grew up with and part of what made yugioh so fun for me. Different formats should be in master duel and they'll probably do it at some point. But I think it would be harder to implement different formats in the physical game.

[@pylon9889]

So, there is a (I’d argue) better format, but it’s only in the OCG. Rush duels are basically the more sped up, more simple speed duel format. The entire thing has old nostalgia stuff like BE and DM but also new stuff like a deck themed around ramen noodles. It has only one non-supported game in the west, while the OCG has like, everything. It’s a really cool format and it should be checked out more.

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

It seems like Konami is finally gonna push it to the west more with Duel Links and I hope it goes well. The game is actually very fun and simple to get into

[@NotsoNaisu]

I think speed duel needs to be a much more supported format and I think it should stay within the original 3 series for as long as possible. Idk if you got the GX Duelists of Shadow box but it’s the coolest product I’ve seen in paper yugioh in years and I wanna get it so I can play GX duels with the homies.

[@L3oMatchu]

I like what they did with rush duels it’s a reboot that both players new and old can enjoy and it’s pretty simple.

[@mattyorshin]

Yea power creep is getting it hard, but it's still fun

[@shinvon]

I definitely agree with multiple format support. Having only the meta focused/competitive format that's the standard atm is only one way to play the game. Nothing wrong with it, but for a lot of people, that isn't the only way they want to play. Goat, Eddison, Speed/Rush, Tag, and even a Singleton format would give just about all of the fans a niche to fit in that they enjoy most. Shift the current format to a rotational one. It'd be a big task, but it'd help filter out a lot of the toxic cards and could help Konami design more balanced cards in the future. They could create another format (Unlimited/Legacy) where it'd be open season and use all the cards minus the banned ones. MtG has a lot of formats for just about everybody (Standard, Modern, Commander, CEDH, Pauper, Pioneer, Plane Chase, Brawl, Oathbreaker, Cube, etc.). I think Konami really needs to catch up in that regard. Yugioh has over 10k cards. That's way too many to be limited to only one official way to play.

[@akichan4168]

I agree. People should be allowed to play what they want to play. I still don't understand why Konami just refuses to introduce those alternative formats like Master Duel. It's not like those older cards wouldn't sell.

[@GalickGon]

Definitely agree. I watched the original seasons and enjoyed some of the early gba games. Honestly started playing master duel recently because of all of the content you and the boys be putting out. I’m not familiar with synchro, xyz or pendulum as a whole but I get the concepts. But I’ve been frustrated when I see my opponent playing solitaire for 2 mins straight to have 4 diff monsters that all negate or banish before I summon. To be fair I’m playing Demise and ruin deck just bc I like big axe users so I get it and not trying to be competitive. But playing against a board where 2 monsters negate and one banishes or sends my card back to the hand is just boring. I like goat format more since there’s less people can do and thus more suspense.

[@sobbles6242]

ok so if you are going to play a garbage deck don't complain about loosing to a better deck. its just stupid. its like if i complained i lost with a bulk of normal monster against chaos turbo or panda burn in goat. its fucking stupid

[@Busstavo]

Monsters having the ability to negate cards was the start of the downward spiral imo. Floodgates became popular because of all the negates monster boards set up. Hand traps became necessary because you need to stop the opponent from getting access to their monsters that will stop you from playing. Spell cards and traps cards that negate at least require that care to be used up and with traps, u opponent can use certain cards to get rid of them.

[@sethsdoodles]

Floodgates predated negate cards. Imperial order came out in 2002

[@kozaky6584]

​@@sethsdoodlesimperial order isn't a monster

[@junglezone7323]

Monsters could negate cards ever since like goat format dude

[@kozaky6584]

@@junglezone7323 such as?

[@tophercabba]

negates are fine its the ones that negate with no cost to that player thats wats just stupid , one turn lockdown game over geez how fun , back to playing against the AI

[@ct1296]

How to fix yugioh: Step 1) Showering before entering an in-person event becomes a mandatory requirement for all contestants

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Lmaooo

[@rhymestyle]

LMFAO

[@matthewcarson5968]

honestly what i think i would love the most in master duel has to be this 1. allow friend duels to use any card regardless that you have it made or not. 2. have like anime protagonist/antagonist theme deck or structures but having different formats (goat edision ect will be a very nice welcome)

[@rhymestyle]

If they did that, I think they’d have to sell master duel instead of it being free

[@AbsoluteMongoloid]

​@@rhymestyleWould you rather spend sixty dollars on a full game, or hundreds on a few thousand gems every time a new expansion releases?

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

@@AbsoluteMongoloid I'd spend zero since gems are no where near hard to farm.

[@AbsoluteMongoloid]

@@ZeothTheHedgehog You do realize that MD players don't even make a fraction of the Gems they used to, right, and that Konami will keep decreasing the drop rates because of people like you? I'm sorry if this sounds mean, but a game like Master Duel is driven by its playerbase. imo, the TCG exists separately from the OCG because it allows Konami to take advantage of the Trading Card monopoly outside of Japan (there's mostly just MtG, Pokemon, and Yu-Gi-Oh, otherwise), squeezing more money from its playerbase. Companies only take advantage of their playerbases when said players lack foresight. If you choose to respond to me, please take a few moments to consider my words, and to reconsider your own.

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

@@AbsoluteMongoloid simply so it doesn't seem I'm running away, I will say you raise valid points. I'm not agreeing or siding with you, I'm just saying that all of your points are very much valid, and I have no way to counter them, good job on making a solid argument (I mean this genuinely btw, I don't want this to be misunderstood as sarcasm)

[@stevenweseloh5233]

Agree with you completely! Been getting back into the TCG again and been playing Master Duel. I love running Toon decks and Chaos decks. Definitely prefer older yugioh but some of the old cards being retrained as Links or Xyz has got me interested in the new meta style but still pretty intimidated by the decks that come out. The turns are just too long for me, i want to play the game, not just watch someone special summon 20 times and negate all my best cards. Would love more balance and more game modes on master duel that allow diversity and allows players to play in the format that makes the game the most fun for the individual player

[@animicousD]

I only started yugioh last year, and I’ve learned all the modern rules and everything. It’s not an easy game to get into, not at all. Especially when master duel gives you awful starter decks to start with. So for new players they get to hop in ranked and get absolutely destroyed for the first 40 hours cause everyone else is playing decks that are so much better. It’s hard to begin when you lose almost every game turn 1.

[@Ace_Malorium]

I love the hatred amongst pendulum players is worldwide

[@rhymestyle]

LMAO

[@Kr_127]

The way I look at it at least today, there are two worlds that exist in Yu-Gi-Oh. Light and Dark if you will. The light being, playing with your friends who enjoy and respect the game as much as you where you can let your guard down, play a fun deck and just have a great time, which is what I believe the creators originally intended. The dark being the less fun competitive world of Yu-Gi-Oh where it's just to see what has a higher percentage of winning where no thinking is involved. It isn't about fun anymore, aka Kash, Tears, Lab etc. It's about seeing what wins, which is still good because it pushes players to develop strategies to overcome that. When I play against Kash, Tears etc. I don't feel like I'm playing against a human being. It feels like playing a bot that only knows how to run through a script which is neither skillful, original or respectful to the game.

[@dragondrakage2402]

Nostalgia is definitely a thing for yugioh. I played goat then stopped for a while, but got back into it when they released cards for blue eyes.

[@patrickschmidt6140]

I'm a Magic the Gathering player who's recently gotten back into the game after quitting around 2012. The game has been nearly overwhelming, and I have to read so many cards just to understand what's happening. Without Master Duel I wouldn't have even bothered. Something Magic does that I think Yu-Gi-Oh could benefit from is different formats. I think you're totally correct there. Host tournaments with GOAT decks, or the Edison format. Or create a new format like Magic's standard format. In standard, you can only play cards from sets released around the past two or so years. Perhaps if Yugioh had a format like that they could balance for that format, and leave all the busted stuff for a different format. That would solve the problem of having old cards become super toxic and relevant again, while still allowing for fresh, new cards.

[@WitchDoctorWaka]

I talked about this before with friends and in comments of other videos discussing this topic. The best example of a community made format just blowing up is Commander in MtG. Some would argue it's even more popular then standard now. Literally MtG makes structure decks now for Commander and basically only Commander. They leaned into what their community wants to play and honestly Konami just needs to follow suit. They need to lean further into other formats to appeal to the wider audience.

[@fardinkhandaker3436]

I grew up with the synchro and xyz era but I have come to really enjoy the goat format

[@RickyLaFlor]

Promoting older formats is something I definitely agree with. It’d also be great to have MD have a customized formats feature. It’d be nice to play older archetypes with some modern support without making too complicated/broken.

[@hypershadic1427]

For the reasons you stated in this video is why I was very appreciative. When you made the blue eyes videos back when master durl first came out. It helped me learn the game in a simple way.

[@furiyamu]

Preach! Been wanting this for a while too! If Wizards of the Coast can run/organize/handle multiple formats, Konami can too. If Pokémon tcg has now started to implement multiple formats like MTG, then the writing is on the wall for Konami to finally start embracing the same! Have multiple formats. Draft/limited, classic/goat, modern, Edison, & more! Play as many or as few formats as you wish!

[@dragondude55515]

I can definitely agree with this take. I'm an og yugioh player, I took my hiatus mid synchro. I love master duel, I've embraced newer yugioh and actually enjoy playing meta decks. I could never play tcg right now. Without the prompts I wouldn't know what is activatable and when I can play certain cards.

[@cyberUnit32]

You’re not alone. I’m for sure and old school lover myself. I just built 9 different decks too with all the 25th anniversary booster boxes that were released.

[@Billy_Wyatt]

Rhyme speaking facts! I like modern Yu-Gi-Oh cards but the game itself is so complicated and so over the top with its mechanics and that scares away new players or even worse, returning players.

[@djbubblegum9975]

Playground yugioh was so peak. I went into master duel after not playing yugioh since the synchro and xyz era and I got turned off from it so fast. Made me realize what was actually so fun about it back in the day, which was just buying cards from the store and building a deck out of what you had

[@CountDVB]

Honestly, Synchros and XYZs weren’t any more difficult than Fusion. Pendulums…

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

​@@CountDVBisn't that hard to wrap your head around once you remember they're two separate things, both of which can be explained pretty easily.

[@djbubblegum9975]

​@@CountDVBI don't think the stuff Past Xyz is difficult to understand, I just don't think it's very fun

[@zackking4742]

Yeah. I 100% agree with you on this. My experience. I was a lot younger when i watched the Yugioh. Back then, i didn't really play the game. But, my brother did a little bit. I have a slower comprehension problem whev it comes to reading. I was even in IEP in school. I didn't actually start learning the game until master duel came out. I wanted to try because for one. It's free to play. 2. I wanted to see some of my favorite cards again from back in the day. Buster blader, Dark Magician,Blue eyes, Exodia, Red eyes. When I think Yugioh. Those are the cards I think of. Even before the Egyptian Gods because I always loved those cards. Oh! And Flame Swordsman. So, me trying to play Yugioh today just is too " fast" to me. If you think waitint 10 minutes on someone to end their turn "fast" then sure. I also came to try because I thought it was about the same way as it was back then. It's clearly not. I want to learn older format. I don't know when cards came out or anything like that so I don't know how to build decks from certain years but I still enjoy older decks way better. I like Blue eyes, Dark Magician and Gaia. That's almost all I play. It takes me out of it and ruins the experience for me personally because I can't play how I personally want to.

[@kdogbrezzy1]

Bring back the real tag duel. Where you actually share the same field and cards with your partner.

[@LordFalzar]

Preach! My boy Rhyme out there spitting fire. I mean, at this point just have Konami hire Rhyme for a couple of months and we can have formats. Personally when I see a massive shitstorm of a board I get so tired I don't even try anymore. It is fun to break a board and win a game you had no business winning. One of my favorite moments in MD was breaking a Flow deck in Ranked with my Winged Dragon of Ra deck and barely winning, but after the 300th mega T0 board I just can't anymore. I see a Kash card, I don't care if you are good at playing it or just picked it up and don't know what to do with it, you are communicating to me, and everyone else, you want to play single player Yu-Gi-Oh, so I just insta quit and let you go play by yourself. I can't be bothered. Formatting would fix all of these issues. You want to bust your head against the T0 mega boards and win by breaking them? Cool, go ranked. Want to play slower games where you can actually have a 15 turn game? Play Edison. As it stands, and as much as I hate to say it, Yu-Gi-Oh is a bad game with great moments every once in a long while, and that's not good. We have no new blood coming in and people's stupid mentality of "They just aren't' playing the game right" and "Yu-Gi-Oh is supposed to be insanely unfriendly to new players! That's THE CHARM" is expediting the death of the game.

[@Firespirit-se7ni]

I’ve been playing Yugioh for I think little over a year now and while I respect deck building and archetypes, it’s not fun when you’re going against the same thing over and over again and you have to play ranked in order to even get a chance for cards you want in master duel. But I’m also at a point where I’d say make Dragoon limited. But that would also cause problems on both ends because with red eyes fusion it’s so easy to get out and people would add it to their deck cause it’s such a powerful card. I, as a newish player, think formats would be great. I loved the deck master format from the show I wish they capitalized on it. I’d play that a lot. I just wish Konami would listen to the fans but at the same time theirs always two sides to the fandoms and what they want. It’s always a conflicting opinion but adding formats would help so many, and it wouldn’t hurt the other side. So my take in all this, is add options. Not forced options. Options that would, possibly make things easier for newer players like Goat or Edison, and have them learn the game from the absolute basics, and learn things through when they first appeared, like Fusion first, and then Synchro, stuff like that. Options never hurt anybody. Forced options, will hurt everyone.

[@vergil5164]

Love the content Rhyme ❤ also will you make a video on the new ridiculous patch notes for FighterZ?

[@rhymestyle]

Not sure

[@joshuapinney7443]

I agree Rhyme, this game really needs to have more options to play so most don't feel secluded or left behind. Which is strange because most of the marketing for the game is those that remember the anime or enjoy classic Yu-Gi-Oh, but the game is so much different than it's actually advertised. Hell, I'm even attempting to make my own format with the card collection I have. I just really want Yugioh to succeed and not have so much discourse between players. This game is simply fantastic no matter how you look at it, it's something I'm sure Kazuki Takahashi would have wanted.

[@hardsuperstorm2119]

I was late to the Yugioh party but looking back to Yugioh then and now, I am a new Yugioh fan and I understand more the original format than the modern format

[@DizzyDogmaGaming]

For official tournaments yes this idea will remain too ambitious because yes they would need entirely separate banned/limited lists for each format. In terms of unofficial or in master duel I mean nobody is stopping u from starting up ur own tournaments with those formats. But with almost what like 13000+ cards and increasing, the officials just dont have the patience or the want to put in that kinda effort. As for why people hate on different formats is because of the difference in how complex each person wants the game to be. Most people who prefer OG yugioh prefer it for its simplicity, while most modern players prefer the high complexity combos.

[@1216shadow]

Tldr: I play yugioh like a sociopath and build decks hard focused on consistently killing the meta. To be fair this idea had been implemented in MTG quite a long time ago. Mostly because they were having the same problem with balancing and power creep. So now only certain cards are allowed in certain formats with only a few formats allowing most of the cards. For example the modern format only allows cards newer than MTG 9th addition sets. While standard only allows cards from the last 3-5 card sets. I still enjoy yugioh myself even though I prefer it when it was simpler. I do like the challenge of trying to make more modern decks sweat a little. Like not using meta cards at all and building an anti-meta that doesn't use any of the staples. Last time I did that and had a solid strategy in mind was when pendulums were meta. I looked at the biggest weakness I could find in that mechanic. And exploited it due to how popular that mechanic was. The anti-pendulum deck was so solid. That it made some of the strongest decks from that format surrender.

[@joeycastle1997]

Something akin to the rotating extra modes system in Apex Legends would be very refreshing in Master Duel (it would take tweaking and changes admittedly). Imagine a wheel of modes that changed every 30 min to hour that included stuff like proper tag duels, battle royal duels, etc. formats would be the first change I would make but if I had the magic button to change anything about the game, I’d include both of these.

[@DominusZeikyu]

I personally see nothing wrong in liking other older formats except GOAT and it was fun tbh a relaxing game or two after fighting for my life in MD is always nice, I personally returned to playing Yugioh since 2016 during MR4 format and I personally liked it despite it's restrictions. I never played Edison format and know nothing about it so I can't really say anything about it. I can only say to each their own I personally like MR5 despite the countless negatives and I understand why people might not like it and prefer older formats. Much respect Rhyme and God Bless you!

[@Krokodilius]

step #1 create a new 'modern' format and don't let the cards get out of control, step #2 erase link monsters.

[@rhymestyle]

LMAO links are fine but maybe stop printing generic ones

[@HZRDousLucifer]

Got back in to YuGiOh back when SeeReax was helping ChilledChaos get back in to the game. Was a fan of the 3 Idiots before that and a fan of Chilled for years before that and it got me and my buddy both back in to it. Took me a while to accept Links, XYZ werent completely unfamiliar, and Synchros werent complicated. Links were just odd and still dont touch Pendulums. I do have my love for old school YuGiOh, and several of my decks were designed that felt out of date at first, but my only issue with the game is the fact that turn 1 lockouts are a thing. Id rather have even 2 or 3 turns of back and forth before shit becomes impossible. Thats just me. Still love the game. Got to the point that I built my decks off of shit that I liked the look of. I made a Cubic deck because I loved the art. Didnt know how they played until I tried them against a friend. Thats how almost all my decks are. I prefer pure archtype decks. Have them for Danger, Fur Hire, Cubics, Bujin, Ruin/Demise, Rose Dragon, and many others

[@Dragonmatic]

You're spot on for turn one locks being annoying, but counterplays to them do exist with Kaijus or old school cards like Lava Golem or Sphere mode Ra. Also if you ever are willing to give pendulums a chance I recommend you try out either Igknights or Dinomist. Igknights are extremely simple as all but some bosses are normal monsters without an effect, while their pendulum effect is the exact same across all cards from it, making it very easy to learn and give you all the time you need to be used to the mechanic. Dinomist have a great theme of being robotic dinosaurs which stomp anything on their way, their effects are not too complex and all low scale pendulum cards share the exact same pendulum effect and all high scale pendulum cards share the exact same effect, making it easy to learn as well as there being consistency ontop. Master Duel in particular has a solo mode for Dinomist as well if you want to try them out without pulling for the cards.

[@austinpaulin3986]

I commented a few days ago about this exact subject feels good to be heard some people just wanna chill out and have a fun game

[@metalmario1231]

Getting locked down turn 1 makes me big sad.....old formats in MD would be the best thing for the game

[@metalmario1231]

As a start of course

[@xrowplays]

Back and forths were and always will be my best memories of Yugioh, you're right we need this

[@xrowplays]

Also Rhyme, fans did it, there's a fan made game called project ignis that literally did this! It can be done bro!

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

​@@xrowplayswhat did it do?

[@xrowplays]

@@ZeothTheHedgehog it gives you the ability to play different formats and rules from the old rules to modern rules and they even add anime only rules like Battle City and Duelist Kingdom... I play it with my friends all the time, its fun!

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

@@xrowplays oof, I completely forgot about it. I do in fact have it.

[@keithhutton5123]

I remember watching the show Saturday mornings and buying Decks for $12 and boosters fot $4 at target. The best part was smelling them after opening, pure ecstasy.

[@corrosivebullet]

It’s literally the GT vs Super arguments all over again… “Oh Super sucks, you like that trash?” Or “GT isn’t canon, you serious enjoy that show?” It’s absolutely ridiculous, LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS! DBS Card Game has this too, I enjoy playing the Ginyu Force deck but people judge my tastes because the deck isn’t “meta”… ok, and?? Stay true to who you are people and enjoy yourselves! Life is too short to always go with the flow of an opposing ideology… in terms of what Rhyme is saying here, I think he’s pretty spot on for the majority of this video!

[@Moshuun]

It should’ve been like a Jinchuriki thing in Naruto. Broken cards should’ve always JUST been archetypal. Which would create incentive to play certain decks. When certain cards became generic, it made Yugioh a game of rock, paper, scissors.

[@kirona497]

Without Master Duel there is no way I would have figured out how to play Modern Yugioh

[@ebonyman23]

Also honestly bringing back a good instead of terrible new anime would get me back into the game more. Bring back the Pharoah

[@jmctrd]

Day 156 of convincing Rhyme that Nino is best girl

[@supremekingjaden.3096]

She’s not though.

[@Shincat]

Day 156 of us not caring.

[@NinoBestGirl]

Day 11 of helping you convince Rhyme that Nino is best girl

[@lonhia]

Imagine opening up Master Duel and having an option to play ranked GOAT or the GX era or the 5ds era. Game has so much potential being wasted.

[@LeadedWolf64]

I just got my wife into Yugioh, she didn't grow up on it like we did. I taught her the basic rules. We play in person, and she enjoyed it. Well I downloaded Master Duel on her Xbox. She nearly cried of anger because she just started out and she fought Tears in the lowest possible rank for her 1st online master duel match. That was a horrible experience for her and she hasn't touched it since. They really do need to fix the game.

[@axeltaubert8715]

Im 31 and i grow up with YGO until Today its my Favorite (NON) Video Game . I had a bunch of good Memories with this Game and to be honest it makes my sad Childhood a littel bit better. Anyways ... Dino im in your Team i play all Formats but the old one the slower ones are my favorite. Why ? Because 1/3 of your Decks are not Handtraps and it was every time possible to play. Mondern Day YGO is allways Turn one decides everything in 90 % . I miss this time when every Player tried to create his own Deck with his own Ideas . Sure Stabels like Call of the Hunted or MST was allways a thing but it dosent stop you from play .... WE NEED OLD FORMATS IN MASTER DUEl

[@reenoperson]

Using an easier way to access older formats is such a better way of not only introducing new players but actually giving them an understanding of the game’s fundamentals wich master duel is gash at

[@xpertninja13]

Beautifully said I got into yugioh through duel links when 5ds just came out (Edison format for closest comparison) I just managed to get into yugioh before slowly getting into modern, the official different formats is an amazing idea people who want to play the game they grew up with and gives them the option to. It's one of the things I love about pokemon showdown (ik not official) but I loved playing ou gens 5-7 and randoms. But having that format to go back keeps me connected to pokenon

[@SlackerMonkee]

Amén, brother! Amén!... as a yugi boomer that loves to play modern format yugioh and the other formats, I totally agree

[@itzcheaboiij]

I agree completely! The new Era is dope and alot to take in but.... OG yugioh was soo much fun! I like running Galaxy-Eyes I feel like they are a mixture of old and new

[@mical2great]

As someone who loves superheavy i have major animosity towards anyone who uses spells or traps

[@sobbles6242]

i mean pends are half spell and you will be using them VERRY soon

[@kaine1985]

i agree with this. i was actually overwhelmed when i was just playing casual because my opponent just suddenly summon a lot of things. I have never uninstalled a game that fast

[@kevdog20]

Original Yu-Gi-Oh was the best and I am good with it and love it all the way up till after synchro after that it starts getting crazy and too much. Pendulum killed it for sure all that killed it. I will only play the og formats. I love fusion and synchros and before that but everything else is way too crazy

[@MrJack-bt9yp]

How to play old format in modern era: 1. Normal Summon old card (Raioh/Fossil Dyna/Banisher of Radiance, anything you like) 2. Equip some spells (Mage Power is good old card, but I recommend Moon Mirror Shield, it's newer card but it's effect is simple enough I promise you. Basically your monster never lose a battle and it can recycle if it destroyed.) 3. Set some old traps (Solemn Judgment/Mirror Force) Now you can also compete using old cards. Oh and if you going second, try include old cards like Lava Golem or Duster.

[@halftime814]

That sound like my deck😂u sure u didn't play me and stole my recipe..lol

[@kyouma1621]

Itsuki is Best Girl Day 113🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Blank2005-v8q]

Miko is best girl

[@Hydro364]

Damn this guy wants attention so bad 😂

[@tsavitupyt3773]

Speed wagon is the best waifu.

[@kageyami9226]

​@@tsavitupyt3773W waifu

[@yukotrey9422]

Nino best girl in QQ But morgiana from magi tho 👀

[@Youngman191]

I will say this I only watched a little bit of the anime and I went into master duel as a new player and master duel is the best introduction to the series right now because there tutorial mode is actually good and allowed me to learn I went from not knowing Yu gi oh to loving it in around a week or so

[@PhoenixSora]

Agreed! Yu-Gi-Oh is really complicated these days, but i still want to enjoy it.

[@guythat779]

surprisingly good take at the first 2 minutes of the video, i'm pleasantly surprised

[@linkedxeno6000]

Rhymestlye be spitting straight facts. I can't express how much I agree with this video 💯%

[@frohsinnb8122]

The simple answer to this question, to me at least, is to have set rotation. I know, "there is already set rotation" in the game, there isn't really. When you implement actual set rotation in the game you can really simplify the game because you don't have to worry about interactions with cards that are 10 plus years old. Right now, what we call set rotation basically just amounts to the new set has cards that are more broken than the previous set. Those cards only have to be as broken as they are because of all of the interactions with cards that haven't seen play for more than a decade. The issue with set rotation in Yu-Gi-Oh is that the game is built around Archetypes and not themes (e.g. Black in magic having heavy graveyard interactions). People have gotten attached to their archetype, and want to keep playing it. You can't reasonably implement a set rotation system while keeping all of the popular archetypes in a legal format all the time. For example, I love the Salad archetype, and if they fell out of being legal to play for years that would suck and would limit my ability to enjoy the game. But it would also force me to pick up and play a new kind of deck because I want to keep playing the game.

[@daanschoenmaker5686]

I believe a special summon limit would fix a lot. Yes, some decks will be less likely to be played. But how is that different from the situation we are in now. Of course, there would be one difference. The game will be forced to last longer. Simply because less is happening. This will give slower decks a chance to keep up. In my opinion a summon limit of 5 monsters would feel fair. Then the chance of creating a unbreakable board will be reduced inmensly. Perhaps it gives trap cards even a chance to return.

[@jurassictyrantkingYT]

I'm hoping legendary creatures like Blue-Eyes White dragon, Dark Magician, Red Eyes black dragon, and Summoned Skull get proper retrains for today's format. I would love to see these cards still be be treated as any of these legendary monsters but also have effects that would help them easily come onto the field much faster, but also have the same effect as the Egyptian gods where when these cards are special summon or normal summoned their summoning many cannot be negated. It would be so cool if we don't have to use the original Monsters in our decks anymore truly would be sad but let's just be honest the normal monsters in any TCG tournament are obsolete at this point and the archetypes are suffering as a result of no retrains of these legendary cards.

[@RavenCrauss]

MTG has every format from classic to modern and players swarm over it, Yu-Gi-Oh! could really benefit from doing the same, players should be having fun, not arguing. I have played both since the first format, Rhyme is right, nostalgia sells and at the end of the day we are all playing the same game.

[@SmexiiWade]

We really should have more tournament options because locals would be jam packed, friendships will be made, rivals too. I love all the formats but favor modern. What I despretally want is variety in comp play.

[@khananiel-joshuashimunov4561]

I'd like a gradient rating system for decks, probably run by the community. Then you find someone to play with with a similar "power level". Think about Warhammer 40K, for example. You build an army for a certain budget. If I want a smaller more intimate experience, 1K pts each is great. If I want a big crazy battle, 4K gives you more than you know what to do with. Also, combo-banning (or ranking if we adopt that idea). I love my Fairy Tail Snow, among her sisters in my charmer deck. I have no way to recycle banished cards (or dump into GY), so I barely ever get to resolve that graveyard effect. But some decks can turn a one, maybe two, removal card into an infinite combo. There are so many interesting cards on the ban list that we don't use because of a specific combo or use-case. And we kind of do that already, right? At least on the casual level. If you play a deck that stomps someone every single time, you switch to more rogue deck eventually just to have a good game.

[@REIDAE]

Konami knows that if they introduce old formats then most of the playerbase will go play those instead and leave modern a barren wasteland and they wont be able to sell new cards anymore 😂

[@jermainejohnson-gx3mb]

I loved the anime more than the game years ago but getting into the game back then for the first time was fun! Although I tend to lose a dozen duels by trying to make good decks, I still play it because it's fun! That's all that matters to me! Not all these crazy combos and all that! Having fun is key to enjoying the game in my opinion.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Which amine there are like 5 different ones

[@chriswright8074]

​@@pleaseshutup7053only the good ones anything after 5ds is trash

[@TechnicSky]

@@pleaseshutup7053probably the 1st 3 that had relatively slow combos but were overall good.

[@raptorrex4438]

I play yugioh , my brother and I love playing anime decks that he made for me for my birthdays, great game, meta is wild it was a little complicated getting into masterduel at first but I have a pretty good understanding now

[@twizted_goblin]

Dude I just got Back , i was Fan In 2005 or so and i come back Seeing u play it wanted to Catch up on the Anime So Started where I left off Watching GX and now start Watching 5D'S And i going to keep going I wish i could play The game But On pc Master Duel is not Able To play on steam Not For My Country Atleast So i also Want To Collecte The cards again , Their So Beautiful Once

[@infinitedarkk]

5:30 Thats my favorite part with yugioh i love going up against the top decks me winning the coin flip and make my opponent Go first and make them question their plays. I play gizmek blind 2nd and it’s a lot of fun.

[@CountDVB]

I mean, Synchros and XYZs are no more complicated than Fusions honestly. Pendulum was when it got absurd.

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

Pendulum can easily be summarized imo, people just over complicate them. Pendulum Summon just needs 2 cards in specific zones, and then allow you to Special Summon monsters from the hand whose levels are between the numbers beneath the red/blue arrows. Pendulum Monsters that would be sent from the field to GY are instead placed face-up in the Extra Deck, and can then be Pendulum Summoned to Zones a Link Monster points to. That's it, I explained everything you need to know about Pendulums in two paragraphs.

[@CountDVB]

True, but I think that is what led to Special Summoning madness partially. Links was kinda interesting if a bit weird.

[@IamNster]

Imo Pendulum Summons was when the summoning mechanics began to jump the shark. Synchros and XYZ were and still pretty simple concepts to wrap your head around (Add/Kinda Sorta Multiply the numbers respectively), but it got ridiculous when they added a mechanic that allows you to set up two cards and flood the field with a bunch of effect monsters immediately. Also this game is HORRIBLY balanced outside of those mechanics, but don't even get me started with that. Edit: I'm not saying Pendulum is broken. There are definitely more cards that are broken in the other mechanics (*cough* Baronne de Fleur *cough*) I'm just saying that it was possibly the start of when summoning mechanics got a bit ridiculous and just kept getting worse from there.

[@axeluwu3959]

The most broken decks have synchros but any pendulum xd

[@AstraFulminous]

A crazy idea in the working but a special zone on each side of the board that can be used once per game per player for a limited amount of time that temporarily allows for the use of one banned from the game, that allows the banned to played under certain circumstance while offering specific advantage or advantages to the opposing player with an effect of their choice (such as protection from a deck out or lp reaching 0) at the cost of other player using the zone. This creates an in game mechanic that nerfs banned card while still allowing them to be played while also encouraging more cards than interrupt the regular flow of the game to be banned. Maybe even make the banned card that's chosen as random as if someone were picking from a side deck.

[@maxd3str0y3r]

Hey rhyme I totally agree with you as 1 yugi boomer to another. Also it's funny cause I watch all your master duel content then just found my son watching a 3 idiots vs Goku and Vegeta dbx2 video and thought that was pretty awesome.

[@bleepbleepboom1]

In my head this just involves making a spreadsheet, copying the spreadsheet to md and making some graphics. Like, get the card list from a format, put that in a spreadsheet, mark the limited cards as an integer then code it so whatever isn’t in the spreadsheet is banned. They do the exact same thing for every event when cards are hidden when you search them

[@hiitsalex6780]

What are your thoughts on Yu-Gi-Oh should do more spin off games, that break away from the formate, similar to what Pokemon do with Mystery Dungeon and Pokken Tournament?

[@rhymestyle]

I miss the spin-off games. They used to be SOO fun

[@DarkSymphony777]

@@rhymestyle maybe do a video series talking about them?

[@hiitsalex6780]

​@@rhymestyle Remember Dungeon Dice Monsters and Duelists of the Roses? With Nintendo remaking games like Mario RPG, why can't we have that with the old Yu-Gi-Oh games?

[@L3oMatchu]

I want them to attempt that one 5d racing game again but much better

[@DarkSymphony777]

@@hiitsalex6780 hell remember when they made physical copies of DDM

[@Healedsqeesh]

I like trying to revive older decks with newer cards like skull servants its my most fun deck because of the sheer options i have its all opinionated and we can all come together because none of us read and we all love yugioh

[@deliousliam]

hey rhyme!! love the videos keep up the hard work!

[@adamygo]

As a modern day player and official yugioh I do agree that there should be different formats in master duel and for the tcg I mean you go a regional or a YCS they have side events going on during them and it isn't hard for konami to do them and if the cards got irroted then just use those versions so the game play is more fairer per those formats

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

"Irroted"?

[@adamygo]

@@ZeothTheHedgehog errata ment to type lol

[@ua3698]

I stopped playing 6 years ago and my buddy that never stopped recently told me it took him like 30+ games to learn a deck because you can do so much with even just 1 card and that blew my mind

[@homebredpacman9715]

As someone who grew up with classic Yugioh, dropped it and came back with Master Duel? Having the option to just go old school would have made things way better than facing the same 3 meta decks over and over and over again and no friends who play it online my choices were build a meta deck like them which, if I'm not having fun playing against them then why would I build that deck just to compete and run in to people who are in MY position of "I'm tired of facing these same decks", or just drop the game again....and I picked the latter. It's fun to watch but not very fun to participate in.

[@Lightning-Blade]

Honestly Dino, the game was confusing for me although I loved the show as a kid, I didn't wanna play cause of all the reading gives me a headache, but literally I started watching you and the three idiots MASTER DUAL videos I learned how to build a deck and most importantly the cards itself cause I never played a TCG so it was a lot to take in and pushed it away. But now that I've played the build my childhood decks Im so happy that I learned the it's so fun. But now either rank or what ever mode you lose by inflict DMG or just if your opponent goes first your plays gets negated from my first turn.

[@chivi4liffe]

I too grew up with the old school game, not to mention that I build decks that never gets hit and at the same time fun and a little competitive.

[@naos8116]

I caved and built a Tear deck, then the week after it was announced Agido and Merrli were getting banned. Then I remembered why I don't build super competitive stuff.

[@WangHungLo]

All that matters is enjoying your time with your friends. You never know when it's your last

[@Citizen_Nappa23]

Agree full heartily in master duel many more ppl would come back for more classic formats. Honestly they remove casual mode because its Meta without having to worry about rank loss 9-10 players still be playing most toxic modern Meta so thr mode is pointless. Replace it with Edison and Goat formats following their exhisting banlist. Guarantee ppl would come back and play. Did online poll of 1000 people, 857 preferred Goat/Edison 143 perferred Modern Yu-Gi-Oh those are staggering statistics. Same for the TCG ppl grew up with older Yu-Gi-Oh it was quick turns,easy to understand,and fun to play modern Yu-Gi-Oh is the exact opposite.

[@rhymestyle]

yeah those nubmers are insane

[@Rod-H_WIMB_Content]

Still waiting for older format but also especially for tag duel content on md. I really loved that's aspect. I believe it would make really fun content too ( or toxic when your teammates do a mistake)

[@baliaza4485]

Yugioh would be way better if we had decks like exosister be tier 1. Exosister needs 2 cards to full combo, a good amount of interactions, and ways to counter their end boards. Decks like that Should be meta, not these 1 card combo decks that makes it so your opponent cannot play

[@mateusmauricioff]

I'm a very casual player, but I really feel like the main core problem that the new mechanics brought to the game is the super long combos, being able to infinitely special summon stuff in the same turn is what breaks the game. I really feel like if they limited the amount of special summons per turn would fix a lot of stuff, and decrease the complexity of the game for people that want to learn the game. But again I'm a very casual player, maybe I'm missing a big problem that that would cause lol

[@beenblack90]

had that exact same thought a few days ago

[@magus_series]

I agree. Honestly I don’t think they intended for people to summon like that per turn, It’s users overdoing it. I believe the intent was to make playing the card game in real life, like the show. Characters on the show don’t unload a million combos in one turn, but they never have dead turns either where they have to just pass because they didn’t draw anything. They always have plays… I think a special summon limit would fix a lot, but pendulum decks would take a bigger hit than others.

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

This heavily nerf weaker decks than it does strong ones than you think it does, and will not serve to fix the game what so ever.

[@dave_the_slick8584]

@@ZeothTheHedgehog I don't see how

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

@@dave_the_slick8584say we limited it to 3. Branded can very easily set up a Mirrorjade in that amount. Kash can very easily set up an Arise in that amount. And both of these two can get rid of any monster you put out. Not to mention Labrynth rarely specials 3 times during it's turn, the same applies to Runick as well, Eldlich too. Not to mention Stun decks. Then we get to decks who need to Special more than 3 times to out these decks.

[@controllerchaos7194]

I mean Magic has recognized multiple formats started by fans for years and its helped that game grow in spite of Wotc. So multiple formats for yugioh would be fun. Theyd just be permanent events anyway.

[@EATSxBABIES]

Real talk, just restrict it to the more non feedback loop summoning (AKA Syncro and older) styles and you fix like 80% of the problems folks have with modern Yugioh. Don't even have to full commit, just let folks filter out stuff like Link summoning or XYZs. No need to rewrite the format's.