Yu-Gi-Oh! Isn't The Same Without an Anime

#yugioh #anime #yugiohtcg #yugiohcommunity #yugiohanime #nostalgia #funny #videoessay I was recently replaying Yugioh Legacy of the Duelist and it got me thinking about what changed in yugioh since we stopped getting anime, I hope you enjoy.

[@TeamAPS]

One of my new favorite channels to binge listen to about Yu-Gi-Oh. Very well-said thoughts here. I, too, hope we can get a proper anime because it's really starting to erode the product design.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Made my damn day, appreciate you big dog 🫡

[@nebulamollyblossom]

You'll be glad to know that we do have a proper anime, in fact we've had 2 since 2020, Sevens and Go Rush!!, please try to have a good take for once

[@GG_Nowa]

​@nebulamollyblossom they're cool as a supplement for an alternative format but seeing as tcg side it's confined to duel links and even then a few years behind the actual rush duel card pool it's hard to care about. Especially for a more causal player. A huge draw of the anime was the I get to actually play with the cards I see in the show. It was cool. It was fun. It was a cool way to show off decks and it why alot of decks Especially from the pre arc-v have some long time fans because the attachment to the anime.

[@Shabuli125]

Sevens and Go Rush promote a different game only playable in Japan.

[@Samurai-no4wu]

@@nebulamollyblossom They're not proper and do not represent the main master duel format

[@historyking9984]

I think one major difference is unlike Pokémon and One Piece the Yugioh anime is based on playing the actual game.

[@Wildstar5267]

Later seasons of Pokemon at least keep the limit to 4 moves, and you could argue they use affection mechanics to why they survive big attacks in the show.

[@MegasXRL]

@@Wildstar5267but it isn’t the game

[@homerthomert3073]

Cause One Piece isn't a game

[@Lyralye23]

But if you look at another card game with an anime like for example Cardfight Vanguard, the majority of the playerbase has watched the anime too.

[@veghesther3204]

Except its the OTHER way around the Duelist Kingdom Yu Gi Oh season 1 arc was released both in the USA and Japan anime wise BEFORE the actual card game WAS.

[@duduvec5971]

Ngl, a lore anime would get me hyped too. Specially because i love the card arts more than the game itself.

[@eavyeavy2864]

What liar said

[@fluffyhamster310]

Albaz lore would be a banger frfr

[@aidenharris5296]

@@eavyeavy2864 what a coper would say

[@Armament0fJustice]

A lore anthology series is what a lot of people want. They are testing the concept with the stories manga and it seems to be turning out well... Konami can still mess it up.

[@Swagorath]

YGOTAS will run for 10 years or more at the current pace. we will do "Screw the rules, i have money" jokes well into the next decade.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Listen as long as we've got more than that to offer I'm down, I'll eat Pizza rolls for dinner as long as it's not my only option.

[@undeadinside3571]

We're getting further into the final season. Maybe we'll also get a movie, but i think Littlekuriboh is going to be happy when its over. It probably doesnt feel as fun as it used to be to make episodes

[@davibookman4536]

2010 niggas be like: “card games on motorcycles xDD”

[@Gebirges]

YGOTAS will go for another 10 years because LittleKuriboh get sick so damn often .-.

[@MrLeerolljankins]

@@Gebirgeshonestly what’s with that anyways? He got some kinda compromised immune system or something?

[@NoirEmperor18]

The closest thing we have at a new yugioh master duel anime is Ocg Structures. A manga with the original artstyle that not only has the light hearted vibe in it, but also the players play actually good decks and they don't just stick with one. They change them all the time, so it is more fun and realistic. I would highly recommend it!

[@QuestLogFaker]

I've never heard of that, I'm going to have to check that out ASAP lol

[@NoirEmperor18]

@@QuestLogFaker Really? I thought it was somewhat popular. It is ongoing since 2020 I think. And it has some of my favourite moments (these are 100% real) "I normal summon Aleister the Invoker" "I activate Maxx "C" " "I activate Ash blossom and joyous springs" Ah such good moments. And 2 of them are from the same character.

[@QuestLogFaker]

@@NoirEmperor18 Unfortunately I am just not as plugged into the going ons as I should be, so it's super easy for stuff to fly under my radar, but thank you for bringing that to my attention 🤙😁

[@nziom]

I personally love that manga hope you enjoy reading it and it's really accurate to irl Yu-Gi-Oh​@@QuestLogFaker

[@gravethestampede3454]

OCG structures does a lot of what I would want from a Yu-Gi-Oh anime. Games are about more complex board states and using strategies that one would use IRL, as well as shining a light on archetypes never featured in any anime. I don't think it would work very well as a teaching tool for new comers though because the manga just sort of assumes general familiarity with the rules of the game and often doesn't show how board states are set-up to cut down on bloat for experienced fans.

[@cassetticons4651]

You have to wonder how much Kazuki Takahashi's death affected the release schedule for the anime, as he spitballed and helped create a lot of ideas for them. I think that's sort of why Sevens is way longer than expected for a lot of people, I feel the team kind of doesn't really know what to do so they're spinning wheels for a few years to keep something going on. Especially since kids media moves way faster than something aimed for teenagers and above. 3 years is enough to move mountains if you're not there every week.

[@yuwu585]

it didn't

[@balrogdemorgoth4741]

It probably had a massive effect, you can't just no sell the death of the franchise's creator, just look at Disney and how much his death changed everything

[@lpfan4491]

I mean, did it? Takahashi stopped being in the ideas chair after 5DS, his last significant contribution to the anime is designing Zexal characters(Which is why there is an official artwork of Yuma in the "classic" version of the artstyle, even tho Zexal introduced the "modern" version of it).

[@ApolloDawn85]

YGO without an anime kinda makes YGO feel hollow. As a kid the 5Ds anime is the reason I wanted Red Dragon Archfiend so bad. Nowadays new cards are just nostalgia bait or lack any connection with players besides how good are they in the meta.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Couldn't agree more, like red dragon archfiend, it's the SOUL.

[@SonicLegends]

I had dropped the anime and thus by extension the game upon Zexal given that's when the character design became abysmal and with Yuma as the main character as the face till the next show just wasn't doing any favors. Come back years later to see what the anime is doing and I see Arc V pulling out throwback characters from older shows, but as alternate versions and I just think by and a large the selections were with the exception if like Jack were given a disservice such as Alexis contributing to nothing and as an Aster fan oh boy not liking that W/L ratio compared to the original in being one of the few to defeat the main character Jaden and deliver Zane's first loss without cheating. Then I check out Vrains as the plot seems interesting and I liked the story direction, unfortunately I think the overall cast for character development got shafted as for example Blue Angel just joins the rest of the female duelists in not being fully utilized and it hurts that she never got her revenge duel against Specter. It's sad that the show got rushed.

[@wally9514]

I still use a resonator deck. Not competitively but still one of my favourite decks I’ve got

[@kingxjaan]

idk if i would say nostalgia bait when literally the new yugi deck with the archfiend and the silent magician is topping events, a nostalgia deck being good and competitive its not bait, yugioh its a card game which feels like separated from the anime but it works, like if it doesnt need it anymore. im saying this having done streaming for 3 years doing yugioh classes so yeah, it is how it feels

[@yusiuc5533]

People really like the lore related to cards such as duel terminal, alba storyline and world legacy. There’s also the promotional trailer for Konami own animation studio that shows many card related role which garners many positive response from both tcg and ocg players. Heck, there are people who plays their pet decks because they really like the lore regardless of how it fare in the meta or not.

[@vincentalpiepedrozo2337]

Rush Duel is official to play in 2 countries only. South Korea and Japan. Konami didn't even release it to whole asia.

[@joeblack2809]

Or even America😂

[@BatMan-xe1vt]

From what I hear its not popular and is barely making money. Putting it in to links is a Desperate move to make it have a player base.

[@blexander]

@@BatMan-xe1vt I've heard the opposite, but seeing Konami refuse to import it to other countries makes me think that it either isn't making enough money, or that it isn't as popular as people claim.

[@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk]

Duel links IS speed duel. Change my mind.

[@BatMan-xe1vt]

@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk Konami admitted it is speed dual. No need to change your mind

[@MyGamesterGaming]

i feel like the movie they came out with, with the old characters PROVE that there is still more to that story they could have went with. idk yugioh was cool af when it was about ancient egypt, now it just feel soo foreign from what it was. hard to get back into it.

[@QuestLogFaker]

DSOD is so goated I love it so much lol, and I think both are true. There's still some untapped ground with DM they're not utilizing, and the new series are much better than they get credit for. I would watch a modern remake of DM in an instant lol.

[@Crona_Gorgon]

I agree i’m still down for a series revolved around Joey ngl he had mc energy

[@GrapeCheckerBoard]

I miss fantasy horror Yugioh too. I hate how modern Yugioh anime doesn’t have any magic elements; magic is a core part Takahashi’s version of his setting. However I don’t want a Duel Monsters reboot, but a 5D’s reboot. From what I’ve seen and heard, Duel Monsters doesn’t need a retelling even if it would be nice. 5D’s, however would be much improved through a do-over. Luna needs a proper deck and an actual character arc. Aki deserves better pacing through her character arc and relevance that lasts the whole show. Leo should have his you-know-what plot twist happen during the Dark Signers arc. And there are several elements from 5D’s season one that need to not be dropped from the story-Carly, the Satellite/New Domino class divide, the Arcadia Movement, the Duel Spirit World, the hints given about Yusei’s father, Yusei’s side character friends, the fantasy elements in general. Don’t have the mass death that occurs throughout the Dark Signers Arc be reversed. (If need be, don’t kill so many characters in the first place; there’s no point in doing that if you’re going to resurrect them all anyway.) Give each Signer a battle against their Dark Signer nemesis (seriously, we had more Dark Signers than Signers, yet Leo and Luna still got crammed into one duel). Allow all the Signers to duel in the final battle of the Dark Signers Arc in a five-on-one match (I know I’m pushing it here). Don’t make three of the main characters more important than the rest. 5D’s is set up as a story about the five Signers. The “Hero/Rival/Best Friend” trio is certainly a good formula to use for a character dynamic, but it isn’t suited to tell the story of 5D’s. Don’t let Crow’s screen time come at the expense of the other main characters. Maybe hold off on his introduction until season two, after Leo/Luna/Aki/Jack/Yusei have had time to establish themselves and can withstand a little less focus from the story. I’d prefer that 5D’s gets a reboot since it actually needs one.

[@Samurai-no4wu]

Yes I feel like Yugioh is running into the same problem that fable franchise was going through which is for every sequel it's their trend they keep going into this futuristic future and each leap is dramatic that eventually we get weird plots like now a literal alien from warfaring galaxy learning to play yugioh. I'm not necessarily trying trying to be a hater of this sci fi techy era of yugioh, but the problem with locking themselves into locking themselves into doing massive jumps into the future is that they lock themselves out of going back and doing other stuff within the era of some of the old anime's. Because of that we never have spin offs such as within the duel monsters world that gx or dm introduced or the continuation of playmakers unfinished story or even another protagonist story happening during the same time as one of these older protagonist story. For this same reason it's why we never get any crossover movies anymore as the time leap between each recent story is so far that is impossible unless they add time travel like the times beyond movie (And if they were to do this again how many times can they do it before the time traveling trope gets boring). Even then would would a crossover between Zexal, sevens or vrains work since both have drastically different rule sets? That's another issue too why does every new anime need a new gimmick, they wouldn't need it if there was more emphasis in creating a good plot with the hype being new support for new or existing archetypes that are being featured in the anime duels, that's how they did it before the emphasis on the different extra deck monster gimmicks and it worked. My point is they should stop, look back and create a good story within one of the worlds they already have and make the focus on the writing being so good that people of all sorts want to actually go watch it and eventually be sucked into the tcg.

[@ee822]

It may be cope, but I'm hoping that the Chronicles animation they showed off is an indicator of the next anime, run as an anthology series (with stuff like Branded being multi-parters) . This would have would draw in people who have been out of the game for awhile to try it again or give people who have no interest in the card game's direction a way to express their enjoyment of the franchise, while at the same time the push of the cards living in their own worlds would have people endeavoring to make theme decks or giving weaker archetypes another option for life as people speculate on their lore rather than good/bad effects.

[@QuestLogFaker]

So personally, I don't care nearly as much about the story of the cards as I do the players, I would definitely watch it if it came out, but I do love the structure of animes we've received before; I don't think its cope at all, I actually think it's more likely we receive what you're talking about.

[@blind0wl123]

They could even introduce support for the archetypes shown on chronicle. It would boost awareness of older decks so their reprint sets would be more sought after which is good for business too

[@Zetact_]

There are a few problems with that, sort of similar to the problems that a lot of mobile games have had when trying to get anime adaptation. 1. Playing favorites. The show would need to make concessions on what exactly it shows, and that builds inherent hostility between player bases. For a promo video it is more celebratory but for a televised anime the tone is very much "who will make it in?" After it finishes airing a lot of people may be left saying, "I wanted an episode about [deck/series] but it was given to [episode] instead, what a waste." 2. Theater of the mind is extremely powerful. One of the actual unique strengths of the TCG format for storytelling is how much of it is left to the imagination. If there's an "official" version of a card storyline that clashes with what YOU found fun about the original, it can actually make people who were fans of the series dislike the cards. Suppose there was a Labrynth episode, but the character writing was abysmally bad, with Lady being more annoying than endearing to the extent that it could taint people's opinion on the deck. This is actually why I think some of the longer OCG storylines like World Legacy and Albaz really don't work, because they're detailed enough to show weak points in the plot but also not detailed enough to justify those problems. 3. It can build the brand but it doesn't really sell the game. Unless the characters actually duel, there is no paper product to sell - even if they introduce new characters and give them associated cards, there's no push for the card game. ESPECIALLY if we're talking about how most of the storylines they might try and adapt are out of circulation anyway. The largest monetization stream would be other forms of merchandise like figures or clothing or the dreaded "acrylic stands", but that's more of a risk under the budget than integrating the anime with the card game directly.

[@Zithee]

@@Zetact_ Counter point to number 2 from the perspective of World Legacy: We already have the entire story spelled out for us in Solo Mode in Master Duel. It really shouldn't be hard to base the script off of that and then fill in the gaps. In fact, a World Legacy anime would be the perfect oppurtunity to patch up any of the holes the original presentation has. And due to essentially being 3 "acts" or timeframes the story takes place in, an episode structure similar to Arcane wouldn't be out of the question. I think for World Legacy in particular it's a relatively straightforward process if they're willing to put in the effort. On the other hand I'm not sure how it would be with Albaz or Visas lore (and especially not Duel Terminal). These problems you mentioned are likely a lot bigger for those.

[@FlareBlossom]

​​@@Zithee what is duel terminal?

[@__GOD__.]

they should make an anime based on ritual summing like the first 2 series where mostly fusion

[@QuestLogFaker]

Best response in this comment section

[@baxterbruce9827]

Please! Make the protagonist use Libromancers or Drytron! I'd be in love!

[@thecompareablezombie]

Agreed

[@ZigTheHunter]

Even though there were more fusions in DM I still give rituals to it. Zorc was made into a ritual, Yugi and Pegasus used one against each other in their duel, and rituals fit the darker and more mystical themes of DM.

[@LRazo7]

They should stay with the idea that ritual summoning was originally something secret and tied to ancient power, and make it the most hardcore part of Yugioh, even Yugi got scared the first time he did ritual summoning, so an anime with the origin of ritual summoning tied to the Middle Ages, dark, depressing, you have to sacrifice something to gain something else, just like the practice was used in those times.

[@DuelistWave]

Imagine its 2034 and you sitting with your kid and you say "screw the rules I have money" and then your kids like "yeah whatever dad" as he zooms away on his hover board

[@YharnamPizza]

Screw the rules, I have green hair.

[@Bothrops_Asper_89]

There's gonna be a bunch of middle-aged men having heart attacks when we finally get the anime-style hologram duels.

[@dnafunnymoments2069]

Hell, if Konami is out of creative juices when it comes to getting a new anime rolling, there is always the option of going back and using the sequel bait left in 5Ds, Zexal and Vrain endings. It also solves the non-existing issue of needing to come up with a new summoning mechanic.

[@pn2294]

That would be creatively bankrupt and a horrible idea.

[@blexander]

@@pn2294 For 5ds, yes. For Zexal, maybe. For Vrains, no. The story for Vrains is literally being continued in Duel Links and could probably warrant a 12-24 episode season at most.

[@asafesseidonsapphire]

I mean Arc-V also ended right before the last and arguably most important duel of the anime.

[@blexander]

Duel Links is already continuing the story of arc-v and vrains so it's not completely out of the question or a bad idea.

[@user-zg4bk6rv1q]

My headcanon is that 5D ended after the dark signer arc and the rest is just filler

[@forgototherpassword]

So consider this option for an anime based on the card lore itself: An episodic anime, with each episode being the story behind a different archetype, or cards that have stories already told in the art of mechanically unrelated cards, such as Warrior Dai Grepher.

[@blexander]

That would only work for cards/archetypes that aren't a part of massive storylines (DT, TD, WL, etc.)

[@730Flare]

@@blexander The Sky Striker manga has everything needed for a YGO card lore anime: - It's a highly popular archetype - It's not overly long and convoluted like Duel Terminal, World Legacy, or Abyss. - It just finished its manga which has enough content for one 13-episode season, maybe two if they stretch and expand on the story a bit.

[@forgototherpassword]

@@blexander Longer archetype storylines could be 2 or 3 part specials.

[@yukijadenfilms3425]

Exactly this.

[@yukijadenfilms3425]

@@forgototherpasswordElemental Hero storyline alone can cover two seasons.

[@sarthakarora3212]

Yugioh without anime is pokemon without games to guide it. Anime is the GUIDE to a proper structure, it gives theme to each era. Hell ot makes eras aka formats. Current formats are very nichie cause no one will know wtf they are a few years from now.

[@QuestLogFaker]

100% it's tied completely together, the anime and the master rules are the framework to guide the game. One of my dumb opinions is that the lack of an anime is one of the reasons power creep has skyrocketed lately, without that guide stick of the show

[@qwefg3]

Makes sense. The anime is based off the card game, but each desk must be similar power levels to make duels interesting. Without it... You get a lot more tier 0 formats where you get one type of standard deck dominating the format more than the others. Especially with how most modern duels feel like you watch someone spend 10 minutes to set up a board and have the game end by turn 2 or 3.

[@yurisei6732]

Pokemon hasn't really had games in 10 years now though, and is doing fine.

[@qwefg3]

What do you mean by the comment exactly? As pokemon has had games, TV shows, manga, and a whole lot of stuff. Maybe not all of it lined up to one another too well or they have had their odd spots (TCG vs Video Game). If anything it's more of a question of what Pokemon isn't making.

[@yurisei6732]

@@qwefg3 The last Pokemon game made was ORAS, we've only had fanfiction games since then.

[@redkun5]

"Vrains, considered by many the BEST main series anime" ...We don't remember the same anime then cuz I vividly remember almost everyone shitting on it from start to finish aside from a few moments.

[@symphonixblades]

yeah from main series Yugioh (not Rush related) it's probably the most hated because the first part is just so bad, slow and repetitive

[@FireFury190]

@@symphonixblades Could have at least sworn Arc-V is tied with it as the worst. Just because the 2nd fell so far compared to how strong the first half was.

[@symphonixblades]

@@FireFury190 personally Arc V second part still had salvageable moments, my problem with Vrains is how long and repetitive the Duels were, Yusaku Duels Go Onizuka probably more times than needed, more times than Yugi has dueled Kaiba. Part 2 of Vrains was better but the animation and part 1 really hurt the series. At least Arc V also had good animation that saved the series, Vrains didn't even had that

[@josephcourtright8071]

As a magic player I hate commander and its warping of every other format. But Modern and Pioneer and Draft and Legacy and Standard and Pulper, etc don't split the player base. That's because all those magic formats are fundamentally the same 1v1 gameplay. Yugioh does have a split in the player base. Its a split between the people who like formats in which T-Setting is a valid option and those you want to combo for 10 minutes and make an unbreakable unstoppable board. However the differences between these games are just a matter of power level.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Totally agree on that front, like I said they're designed to be subservient products in support of the main game. I was into magic for a while until I learned what commander was and that it was all my locals would put on.

[@slowggles]

i think commander itself is fine. how wizards tries to milk everything is where the problem is. pushing arena didnt help much either

[@slowggles]

@@QuestLogFaker my friends and i had to tell our shop what we wanted to play (modern). worked out

[@QuestLogFaker]

@@slowgglesFair, there just isn't a market where I'm at, they've tried it, fortunately the Yu-Gi-Oh community here is really active, I know a lot of people aren't so lucky

[@josephcourtright8071]

@@slowggles Totally fair. Play magic in whatever way you have fun. I just want my modern products to be for modern and my standard products to be for standard. I wouldn't even card if they reduced the number of standard sets and introduced regular commander sets. I just want a good 1v1 environment (specifically for draft) because that is how I play.

[@madamered1103]

Yeah, you're honestly 100% right and its something I have been thinking for a while now too, my favorite moments from my entire time playing Yu-Gi-Oh were watching Zexal on TV and getting so excited as I got ny first ever deck and it had all of Yuma's cards, the Utopia from that structure deck stayed on almost all my decks until mid Arc-V where I started getting more into proper deckbuilding. Also as a total Arc-V fan, I specially logee always seeing the new set releases and getting all the performapals and magicians that came out, to thid day Odd Eyes Performapal Magician is my favorite archetype and deck in the entire franchise

[@Fencinas]

"they can't print nostalgia bait support forever" Konami: Watch me

[@swisschese1323]

A yugioh anime bases on Sky striker isn't too far off when you remember they already have manga series about them. That's why we've been receiving random, occasional Sky Striker supports for the past few months as Jump promo.

[@Zen_user-001]

I don’t think we’ll ever get away from Yugi and Kaiba. They’re way too iconic and that’s the way it should be. I will always be happy to see Yugi and Kaiba.

[@themadhatress319]

I think they're should be new characters every time seeing the same ones is boring

[@themadhatress319]

They should all look different yugioh characters look very similar

[@Zargex]

I wouldnt be a same synchro enjoyer without 5Ds. One of my favourite animes with amaizing Main cast and villains.

[@AKImeru]

"Yugioh vrains considered to be the best by many people" Tell those people they are wrong

[@QuestLogFaker]

I'll let em know 🤙

[@227someguy]

I like VRAINS, but it had some of the lowest highs and the highest lows in the franchise. It didn't take too many risks, but it didn't seem to drop the ball like other shows (DM with its general age over time, GX with its side characters, 5D's and its sorry excuse for an english dub, zexal with its female lead and greater scope villain, Arc-V with its 3rd season zigzagging between good and bad).

[@PlatinumButthurt]

I'll give you 5Ds over vrains but thats it

[@snin3202]

Vrains is boring.

[@madnessends2477]

I completely agree with your video. So many of my favorite archetypes come from the anime. Thats the reasons I was so happy to have Gimmick Puppet support announced. Why Im still praying for Toon, Chronomaly and Timelord support. So many epic moments and memories tied to the anime. And you are right, we don’t need a new summoning mechanic, they should simply focus on the characters and stories

[@benniek1050]

The audacity that GX isn't the best. It's just chilling out with the crew in the schoolyard.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Jaiden is such a fucking mood

[@neo4552]

@@QuestLogFaker until the last season when he changed...

[@vinhmai7166]

​@@neo4552 bro already had a mental breakdown since season 3

[@leedutch5155]

GX wasn’t great until the duel monster spirit world

[@j.b.5422]

finding toruble, lnever looking too hard.

[@tatsukinomiya]

I'd love to see one of the following: ● Lore based anime ● Updated, new additions to existing seasons with updated decks based around what we have currently

[@Lackiert]

As somebody who doesn't know how to write duels and tried solving that problem with just use the irl suff. You VERY quickly run into Ash, Baronne, the syncro Borelload etc. Imagine if yusei went "and I summon-"Ash! "Very well I-" Ash, ash, imperm, dimension shifter. Basically everybody has everybody's cards. Cards that are sopposed to be unique to you just aren't anymore

[@tatsukinomiya]

@@Lackiert LMAO

[@N12015]

I'm honestly amazed on how much the anime made me interested on archetypes. HERO, Blackwing, Infernity, REDMD and blue eyes, the signer dragons (The original 5), mirror force, effect veiler, gravekeepers (They appeared in GX as archetype as well as DM as characters), archfiends, quickdraw and junk synchron (The latter I would say my favorite card) and even gadgets, but I couldn't care less about stuff like artifacts, X-Sabers, Gladiator beasts or (Insert archetype created this decade), and while I love Lightsworn's playstyle I just don't find it as appealing. Why do you think people is playtesting so much melodious? A big reason is because A) Is the first pendulum archetype in years who is viable and doesn't abuse pendulum summon, and B) Is an archetype weilded by one of the bracalet girls, Yuzu. Roleplay is one of the most important aspects of this game (And I'll be honest, it's kinda the only good thing it does well), letting your inner chunni emerge like if you were in an anime, but it's difficult to embrace that when current archetypes don't have that bond.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

I totally agree. Too funny to see some morons say we need a lore anime SMH No one cares about sky strikers and shit

[@tallyho836]

Honestly watching Vrains for the first time was such a magical experience for me. It's seriously the only yugioh series that actually captures what makes the modern game so fun. Most characters had significantly more well-constructed decks that valued consistency and executed involved combos. You could actually feel the skill of a duelist through how they played rather than how many times they can pull off a top deck.

[@Raheel_Ishaq]

Marauding Captain's and Gagagigo's storyline would be super interesting. Same with the D.D. Warriors.

[@brixx2047]

What I'd love to see is a yugioh lore series where every season we get a archetype background story. Basically take those small clips given in the 25th anniversary short and expand. It would be amazing

[@brixx2047]

I wrote this comment while watching and then tou touched on it after I already posted jahaha

[@alonsoarana5307]

6:16 Yu-Gi-Oh does have an Infinity War-like arc tho in Dawn of the Duel, Bakura is basically collecting all powerful items for his Shadow Game a la Thanos, and Zorc is basically Thanos taking down every powerhouse

[@dreamcream3738]

Funnily enough, the Shadow RPG was that. An RPG, with Bakura being a killer Dungeon Master. Zorc was the BBEG/DMPC, and the events that happened in the memory of the game were not 100% accurate to history in universe.

[@BringMoreDread]

Honestly, I would come back to the franchise if we got physical rush duel like Japan. I think the more aggro playstyle of that game is a good alternative to get new people into the franchise and not confuse them with the mess that is the modern card design.

[@ZEDEX252]

I think it would be cool if they can somehow fit both tcg and rush into a single anime. Not sure if that can even work but hey you never know

[@QuestLogFaker]

Give us a bonds beyond time style movie, please!

[@dudono1744]

You can make it work by having 2 protags (1 Rush player and 1 TCG player). You can also have each deck take advantage of the differences between the 2 formats, for example make the TCG deck a deck that spams small monsters and uses the 5 zones while the Rush deck can be discard heavy since you draw to 5 every turn.

[@cassetticons4651]

So, slice of life anime where a TCG player and their younger sibling try to get better at the games and go to tourneys and the like, kind of like how the Magic manga plays out chapter to chapter.

[@nmr7203]

But why tho

[@omniversalnihilist]

I think it could work in the same way as turbo duel and ground duels in 5ds did.

[@spicymemes7458]

You'd think with all of the overreliance on DM iconography to sell their products that it would eventually lead to a continuation of the original anime. Dark Side of Dimensions was a start, but they never capitalized on it 7-8 years later. Such a wasted opportunity.

[@mr.magpie2]

Bro DM doesn’t need to become the MCU of Yugioh. The story of Yugi Muto and company that Takahashi created is over, let it go.

[@spicymemes7458]

@@mr.magpie2 continuation =/= 20 more years. Chill out, man.

[@mr.magpie2]

@@spicymemes7458 But it doesn't need another continuation. You know what could use one tho? Gx, with its underwhelming and needlessly ambiguous finale. It has that nostalgia factor and pretty much every main cast member there could use a proper sendoff

[@balrogdemorgoth4741]

Having Yugi find his own way would be so good.

[@fortnitesexman]

@@mr.magpie2instead of a continuation how about a straight up remake? y'know, fix like 99% of the character writing, animation, voice acting, etc etc as is i hope every character in that damned show is banished to the shadow realm, except chumley, he's so poorly written it loops back around to being funny

[@Magna_Dragon]

Vrains the best? I feel like I don't want to wait 3 episodes for a duel to conclude knowing the Yusaku would win anyway. It also has a lot of production issues and scrapped plot points. Despite having more episodes than Sevens, it has less amount of duels. I remember watching it weekly that there used to be a recap episode every 3-4 duels, until the second half that it has only 2? recap episodes that were better written (actually using new footage to retell the story) than the earlier season recap episodes. It was a pain waiting for a new episode only for to be a recap episode Maybe the reason some call it the "best" is the cast. They're not children, and just use dueling as a means to their objectives. Female characters takes a lot of loses too

[@thatman666]

My issue was similar to what happened to GX, misuse of the supporting cast.

[@PaperReaper]

Vrains imo still has the best duels because they are just like what the TCG is like. Combos mainly. It's a lot more mature than previous Yu-Gi-Oh anime, which imo is what Sevens and Go Rush are missing. The majority who play the game are teens or grown adults. The majority doesn't want kiddy stuff.

[@ianslee4765]

@@PaperReaper look me in the face and tell me the original isnt vastly better on all fronts aside from "like the real game" cause- yeah- the "real game" is based off of the manga

[@TardustheToasty]

You have a very kind way you articulate your points. I appreciate that greatly.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Thank you much, I'm still figuring out the whole video thing, but I'm trying to make them better.

[@yuseifudo6075]

I watched every anime of Yu-Gi-Oh, even the rush ones, and i absolutely loved them all. But i really wish we get the master duel anime back

[@bajanyaoikaizer6902]

step 1: make a hard core, mature anime. make the whole series first and then release it; not try to rush one or two episodes per week. make a tester set if you must, but do not release the show until a full season or two is complete. plot needs to be deep, compelling and exciting. Maybe something like, Dueling was a chill past time but duel disks and holograms were not a thing, then a mysterious person "infects" hordes of duelists with darkness/ the ability to have "real" duels. step 2: Make a monster type season where 15 - 20 types are allowed and get support for say 13 months, and then start from fresh with a new roster of monster types {mix of new/who was left out, and some returning}. And keep the power levels balanced. example - Season of Re-Discovery: Psychic, Fiend, Spellcaster, Dinosaur, Thunder, Rock, Fish, Sea serpent, Winged Beast, Warrior, Galaxy, Zombie, Pyro, Plant, Insect. step 3: Keep ALL the attributes even. We should not have 400 Dark, 398 Light, 410 Earth, 300 Water, 304 Wind and 135 Fire. step 4: Make new types, Like Phantasm/Specter that would be associated heavily with Wind, and yank the more ice themed monsters from out of "Aqua" and give them the new type of Freezeroid. step 5: Make new characters with interesting designs and personalities. And make sure the voice acting is top notch. Like with DM, GX, 5D's and V. Likewise, make the main characters competent. step 6: Have a limited number of extra deck summoning mechanics: Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, Link/Pendulum. And increase the extra deck size to 20. step 7: The anime must be available on the most popular and wide reaching channels at respectable viewing times. Cartoon Network, WBTV, ABC CBC Toronto, CW11 or whatever as everyone has different channel service providers; At say week day between 4 and 7 PM, and weekend could be 9 and 12PM or 3 to 6PM. Maybe also put good shows that people might also be interested in around those times so people could see it advertised. {DBZ, Pokemon, Gundam, Digimon, Power Rangers ????} step 8: Have a movie in the works step 9: Have a competent female duelist similar to Alexis and Akiza that actually does something and contributes and has some good wins under her belt. roll a dice, she's either the MC's girlfriend, good friend, or sister. step 10: make a dick rival, and make sure he gets what he deserves. redemption arc is a toss up. There will still be friends/ chill rivals present. Also, if there are any bullies, make them suffer - none of this "they're my friends and classmates still so I have to help them" rubbish; that could slide with Yugi and Yuma but not on the new edgelord dueling server. step 11: Release a DS/Switch/ whatever handheld is around game, halfway through the series, and give it its own reasonably altered plot from the anime. Good character customization. Similar functionality but smoother and faster than the DS games. And promo it with a type specific booster pack or a type specific structure deck attached. step 12: Pick a monster related story line {eg: World Legacy} and make an anime that is more mature than the main series and show later at night

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Make a yugioh anime about something like Zane underground duels, high stakes for the players, lose an eye or shit, a seinen

[@bajanyaoikaizer6902]

so deadman wonderland but with a childrens trading card game !?

[@TheSliferSlacker]

Absolutely in love with your channel. Your format is so personable and simple in a way that I think really encapsulates the kind of Yugituber I wanted to be 3-4 years ago, very much hope you keep going with interesting discussion topics like this. Anywho, this topic is one that's honestly been on my mind for awhile, to the point I've considered making my own video on it, but you cover all my similar thoughts very succinctly here. I have a few friends who REALLY love the Rush Duel anime, and I tried watching a bit of Sevens, thought it was Okay and never really continued it. Without it trying to sell me cards and ideas I can actually PLAY and look forward to... well, what's really the point? The hobbyani connection to an actual game I wanted to play and was interested in (or CAPABLE of playing outside of a bad overpriced video game and a mobile game I'm also just not interested in) was half the fun of new yugioh for me.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Thank you so much for the kind words, I initially tried to do some unscripted videos but found I'm not really smart or concise enough to do that so I decided if I was gonna go with scripted, I was gonna try and put as much of myself as possible into them, unfortunately with my intense work schedule I don't get to do it as much as I would like, but I digress. I have no beef with Rush or Sevens, i think they're okay products, but they're simply not Yu-Gi-Oh you know? One of the coolest parts of Yu-Gi-Oh is getting to play cards in real life that your favorite characters got to play in the show, at least to me, a man pushing 30 who grew up with the shows. I appreciate your comment and view 🤙

[@TheSliferSlacker]

@@QuestLogFaker You're quite welcome. Your effort shows. I think both Rush and Sevens have their place, and are valid products that certainly earn their keep (from what I understand, they do pretty well over in Japan), but I ave to agree. As somebody creeping up on 30 myself who also grew up with the franchise, I miss that interlinked nature of the cards and the anime. I doubt I ever would have continued playing the game without that during my youth.

[@Brunios04]

underrated channel gained my sub bro keep preaching

[@matts5164]

If Yugioh is planning to run for another 20 years, a new anime is guaranteed to happen at some point. I personally prefer not to have an anime based on lore. Emotional investment and greater thematic resonance through card games are the main reasons why I watched and love the Yugioh anime.

[@QuestLogFaker]

I agree with you personally, I'm not a big "lore" guy, people don't like Synchros because of the deep "lore" between Stardust and Junk Warrior, it's because of who played them

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

@@QuestLogFaker Well said

[@Swift_Jr]

We are definitely getting a new anime for the 30th anniversary. And I bet they will promote it during the WC.

[@leoultimaupgraded9914]

I hope your right, I’m excited to see what it’ll be, just hope its done well.

[@symphonixblades]

Jump Victory Carnival 2024 is happening in July, idk what this event is usually about but Yugioh and YGO Rush Duels will be at the event

[@SpartanTrigger]

Great vid on the topic as an old school DM- 5Ds player here who just got back into the game , subbed

[@QuestLogFaker]

I appreciate you, I highly recommend trying out some Time Wizard formats if you have a locals that supports them, it can help ease the transition into paper play 🤙😁 glad you enjoyed

[@SpartanTrigger]

@@QuestLogFaker I have , oddly getting people to play modern near me is harder then retro at least paper instead of online as a lot of my friends and me have goat format cards / decks from when we were kids in the early 2000s

[@Kameno-o]

Honestly people are already commenting how vrains wasn’t as loved as you said, but I wanted to add in that I feel like the quality of the anime and how it was released outside of Japan is ALSO why we don’t have a new anime. Zexal wasn’t as praised as DM, GX, and 5Ds + 4kids going under during its run meant that the yugioh anime didn’t have a stable block to market to kids anymore. (for better or worse considering 4kids’ rep) Arc V has been universally panned for its bad writing and weird plots, and it was barely featured statewide as much as the other series (I think it was on nicktoons???) and Vrains came and went w only little fanfare. Didn’t help that master duel 4 was pretty controversial for the meta. Maybe Konami saw the lack of success the past 4 series had + its rocky status among fans and thought it wasn’t worth investing in it anymore. It’s a shame since because of the anime i’m the yugioh fan I am today.

[@dimitarspiridonov4790]

It's not just that. The game lost it's authenticity and character. Cards used to be associated with monster spirits and the art reflected that. Now it's just bs anime drawings. The game had a cultist feeling, which got robbed. This is why we need to leave it and re-boot the game under duel monsters with a netflix live action mystery horror show.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Absolutely. There are so many anime girls, it got worse since i left the game after the dragon ruler era

[@freezasama5802]

Would love to have an anime continuing Yugi, Kaiba and Joeys story while playing with their og format the problem is it's a pain to play now

[@ianslee4765]

question- why does a material(yugioh) have to adhere to its product(the card game)?

[@freezasama5802]

@@ianslee4765 they need to because they can sell the cards for money like how dsod was used as a giant promotional campaign for new cards either way the show is really engraved in telling the characters stories through the cards so I don't see it going anywhere else

[@ianslee4765]

@@freezasama5802 no no. as in. they can play duel monsters as their means to win, but im asking why should a product that inspired the other(the real game with its rules) stick to the game it inspired? (as in the tcg/ocg rules) duelist kingdom is NOT the card game. battle city is NOT the card game and dsod is not the card game. they ALL have varying rules that could make it interesting. the og format isnt a pain to play- there isnt one. the real life card game has had ONE true format since like 1999. the only difference between ocg and tcg are banlists- its the same format

[@freezasama5802]

@@ianslee4765 oh yeah I agree it shouldn't stick to it otherwise it becomes to convulted I like how it invents it's own rules and thats what makes the series fun to watch

[@ianslee4765]

@@freezasama5802 ok. this is only confusing BECAUSE a lot of people today dont realize the manga inspired the card game. or if they do, often i see players saying stuff like "the og is crap- they dont even play right" cause lets face it- top level yugioh play irl has been the opposite of entertaining from an audience perspective

[@happysaucey]

I've always loved subtle lore in the cards and if they did a series on them, id be all over that. They somewhat did something similar in DM near the end with maiden with eyes of blue and mahad, granted those came out after, but still. It'd spark so much more interest in the cards themselves in more ways than just "my favorite character used them"

[@AsakuraKana87]

Because the current competitive formats are unwatchable as an anime let alone manga, it could take an entire episode just to setup your board. Vrains already taken kinda long to summon one's ace monster, for reference try reading yugioh ocg structure, they even provide one whole page to explain player's setup so people who read it can understand why all of a sudden on the next panel one's player board become full

[@Hornetog9vp]

We need to add Dark synchro. Where turner subtract a monster level inorder to summon them.

[@randombadchannel8700]

Ursartics do that

[@QuestLogFaker]

I agree, but idk about as a separate summoning mechanic, like Randombad said, just use it as a mechanic.

[@weedleisopcute3626]

@@randombadchannel8700 Yep lol. Imagine if they make retrains of the 5Ds Dark Synchros with the Ursarctic summon procedure

[@hanksbest-frend2491]

I hope your happy. Because now I'm going to have to go and re-watch all of yugioh and the abridged series because you made such a great video

[@QuestLogFaker]

I'm not gonna even gonna pretend like that doesn't make my day, sorry dogggg

[@hanksbest-frend2491]

@@QuestLogFaker no problem thanks for the great content and enjoy my subscription

[@Dave2kool4skool]

I've tried to get friends into the game but it is complicated for new players. Honestly think Konami should maintain multiple formats like GOAT for beginners to get used to basic mechanics, an intermediate format like Edison with Synchro and XYZ, and an advanced format including everything up to present. An Anime starting back with DM era cards and introducing a new mechanic each season could be helpful to get back on track.

[@Luzbel809]

GOAT, Edison and HAT for basic mechanics, Synchro mechanics and XYZ respectively.

[@Nershedify]

They should have just made the OCG Structures manga the new Anime. It follows a young kid playing the game in real life and has actual decklist, uses cards like Ash Blossom, and explains effects on an easy to understand basis. It also do a great job of rotating in and out the decks used. For example, it had Tenyi vs Thunder Dragons then went over the 2020 rule changes, P.U.N.K, Mikanko, and even had the MC summon Barrone De fleur at one point. In my opinion, its the best combination of YGO's core storytelling and advertising the game. You should look into it if you haven't already.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Chad Doodlebeast enjoyers don't @ me, I gave Dino fans a lot of love in my Cool Cards vids so you know I got you. Edit: I'M NOT saying Vrains was the best anime, but that's not a hot take at all, the show was wildly popular. Y'all gonna make me come back with a sequel.

[@madnessends2477]

Doodlebeasts are great! Its such a cool and original idea

[@yuwu585]

the best anime is Sevens

[@yuwu585]

also sayign Vrains is the best anime is not just an hot take, but a shit take too. Most Yugioh fans dropped it and it was very unsuccessful, leading to its cancellation as well as Gallop going under, leading to the (much better) Bridge shows being created

[@nefalissys9630]

Vrains was not as wildly popular as you claim it to be. Nowhere near. A lot of people, myself included, consider it to be Mid/Alright. Calling it the best is such an insane hot take because in all my years in the YGO fandom, I've never heard someone say it was the best or the most popular.

[@QuestLogFaker]

@@nefalissys9630 lol that's fine I don't have any particular love towards Vrains, just sharing what I've heard.

[@attackonyugioh92]

I've never met anyone who's seen anything after 5ds

[@QuestLogFaker]

Give it a try, Zexal gets really good and Vrains is a good watch.

[@nziom]

Vrains is actually good

[@sarthakarora3212]

Actual zommer momment 99% of new players are from the anime zexal onwards cause zexal was the boom of the anime, arc - v was the most popular one. Vrains was the most highly acclaimed one. 5DS was the worst gen popularity wise due burn out and the anime was struggling due to production issues.

[@mr.crowley8750]

That's sad because Zexal is the best YGO show by far. ARC V as an amazing beginning (we don't talk about the other half).

[@QuestLogFaker]

@@mr.crowley8750 ngl when I first watched Arc V I was completely blown away, and then just slipped further and further into confusion and despair as the show went on... Zexal is peak though and I will not be accepting further questions

[@22cstorm]

Personally I think an anime focused around each summoning type (kinda like the demensions they did) with it showing a new protagonist fresh to yugioh getting his first structure deck and it leading to a internal tournament with each region focused on a summoning type with the protagonist slowly learning to use and adapt each into his playstyle ending with a deck capable of utilizing each type could be really cool and each side character expands on one summoning type be a good way to have focused showing of a summoning type for newcomers while showing how to add them together in a easy to pack and digest mannor

[@deinemudder1282]

Sounds like yugioh ArcV

[@22cstorm]

@deinemudder1282 I kinda mean like structurely but minus the multiverse stuff more a global setting instead with each country expressing a diffrent summoning method instead since the game itself is basicly a universal and they could also explore other formats from various regions

[@littledyu-gi-oh3580]

Very well made video, I hope it gets a lot of attention!

[@QuestLogFaker]

I appreciate you big dog 🫡🤙 I'm trying to up the quality

[@Zetact_]

Bridge is frankly doing an amazing job with Rush anime and they probably have a plan for Yu-Gi-Oh 9 already in the works but I do think that Konami could be thinking about a method of getting conversions from Rush to Core. Honestly some may say it would be a dumb move but having two separate studios making Yu-Gi-Oh 9 and 10 with one being Rush, the other being mainline and airing them concurrently COULD be a practical option. I'm sort of less thinking about it from the standpoint of regular anime and more about something like Toei's Super Hero Time block, where there is a general expectation that viewers of Super Sentai and Kamen Rider will overlap although they don't need to, and they usually have slightly different target age demographic. The game went way too absurdly complicated in Pendulum and Vrains where you could have entire episodes where all the duel action was just one turn of Yusaku doing a combo then "to be continued". I think that Konami is sorta trying to rein this in, with a lot of their newer cards and archetypes being more compact in their combo lines so they could in theory be used in an anime. Maybe it's also because Bridge is way better at pacing the combos affecting my mental image but I think you could get through full combo of a deck like Swordsoul in about a minute of screentime and zero confusion about what's happening. One problem unique to anime archetypes is the need to have more and more cards put into the archetype so the character is always using something new. It leads to extremely bloated archetypes like E-HERO, D/D/D, and the notorious Blackwings. Of course, using a "characters change their decks" framework can alleviate this. This is just a personal opinion not really based on market research but I get the impression that the tone that Yugioh has historically had for the [Gallop] anime is not as strong in the current market. It's usually been presented as kinda like a battle shonen but in the market I think that card game anime are finding more success being "urban fantasy", "slice of life" or "sports series" in their vibes. If Konami wanted to revive the mainline game in the anime, I think that going at it from an entirely new perspective rather than just "here's something exactly like the first six series, but again," would be a main thing to prioritize. Basically put more focus on the characters. Putting aside that DM and GX also had world-ending stakes I think a main reason they're remembered fondly is for the characters. Incidentally I think that there COULD theoretically be room for ONE extra mechanic in the game, but that's not a major point of discussion on the video and a new anime on the card game could probably do fine just using existing cards.

[@AmineL-es3dk]

meanwhile Cardfight vanguard/shadowverse are putting out anime episodes left and right. I do love speed duels though

[@QuestLogFaker]

Speed duels got me back into Yu-Gi-Oh after I graduated high school

[@SageTigerStar]

Bushiroad is pulling some weird stuff with Vanguard though. They powercrept too hard, tried to reboot, lost a lot of people cuz of the reboot...powercrept the reboot WAY TOO FAST, then rebooted AGAIN...and now it feels like the game is on life support. It doesn't help that the company is having issues getting product to specific locations and prices are fairly insane for some decks. Due to the inconsistencies, some shops just gave up on the game altogether. I still love it, but I'm also learning Digimon rn because Bushiroad feels like they're really only interested in coddling the Weiss and Shadowverse players.

[@siphemanana2551]

@@SageTigerStar isn’t Shadowverse owned by Cygames?

[@SageTigerStar]

@@siphemanana2551 not sure, perhaps the game is, but the rights were used to create the tcg and Bushiroad has that? All i know is that I got tired of the ads at the beginning of the Vanguard anime. :P

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

I think what Yigioh should start doing is trying to help out people who want mix up their monster choices. Have 2 card opposite monsters combine forces. Have one archetype steal monsters to strengthen their forces. And also maybe give support to more vanilla monsters. I've been so curious to see what could be done with Oscilllo Heros. 2 other monsters that I would also like to see supported are the Elephant statues.

[@FireFury190]

What I would want from a new Yugioh anime is one that’s a full on proper adaptation of the manga. Combining everything season 0 and DM covered, removing the filler, and not being censored. I know that’s not exactly what players that want new cards want. But as anime fan it’s something I’d really like to see. Maybe throw in Yugioh R in it as well.

[@slenderben3262]

I personally would like to see an anime surrounding the existence of illusion monsters intead of a new mechanic. Could have potential.

[@fortnitesexman]

not sure why everyone wants it to center around something new i just want a GOOD yugioh anime for once, we already have a ludicrous amount of cards to pull from to make it interesting

[@davidtowers1863]

Who tf said fans like Vrains???

[@jazzyjefffogel]

Yeah I was under the impression the consensus best show is 5ds with some people arguing for dm or gx

[@yaminomarsh]

Came looking for this comment......Vrains is the Worst 👀👀

[@windandfireproductions5358]

I was under the impression the first series was the best since it's the one that started it all but I also stopped watching the anime at 5ds so I guess I'm not up to date

[@RavensEagle]

Vrains was a return to form in main character archetype, confident capable stoic Similar to Yami and Yusei It's why people loved him Only reason why people hated it is production issues and recap episodes etc

[@davidtowers1863]

@@RavensEagle I mean. People like him but. Not the same way, Vrains ends up being a pretty boring show sometimes. But then. I prefer GX

[@harpsw3390]

You mentioned it briefly at the end, but I personally think that a show based around people playing the best decks of the last few years would be so sick. Imagine an 8 episode slugfest between a protagonist playing full power ishizu tear vs. an antagonist armed with full power snake-eyes. Or getting to see a group of four friends who play the four decks from TOSS format (I know Salad is from VRains). But a full duel terminal anime, or an albaz lore anime would also absolutely slap.

[@Yunglex313]

Wish they would push and maybe localise the Card Storylines manga. They just wrapped up the manga that went into the Sky Striker storyline and, I believe, have already gotten started or at least announced another. EDIT: Double checked, the next story to be told is the Magistus storyline, which if will likely expand and finish out the Magistus archetype's support line, while providing all kinds of lore and info to various spellcaster archetypes.

[@uninspiredname2974]

I will watch the video as soon as I send this of course but I scrolled through the comments and just as I expected everyone is just saying "ah yes there should be a yugioh anime" as if we didn't have a currently ongoing yugioh anime right now. Sure it may be for a different format, but it's still very good. Better than over half of the previous seasons in fact. But I guess if there is one thing this fanbase never disappoints in it's being completely and firmly shackled by nostalgia. Same reason everyone keeps making the same 3 YGOTAS references over and over and why DM-era support still sells so much. The year is 2024 people, pendulum monsters did not ruin yugioh, your favorite decks all play those weird xyz and links, there are gay aliens in the yugioh anime, and studio gallop is likely never working on another season after vrains. And I have to wonder how many of you even gave an actual chance to the new seasons.

[@QuestLogFaker]

I genuinely wonder how many people have even ACTUALLY watched YGOTAS, and not just seen a handful of clips. I hope you ended up enjoying the vid.

[@datruthgt5609]

Man, could you imagine if Konami went the League of Legends route and released an anime based on the Yu-Gi-Oh monsters/lore like they showed in the chronicles animation? It would solve the problem of not enough newer players wanted to play Yu-Gi-Oh and at the same time make Yu-Gi-Oh mainstream and super popular in pop culture if the anime could even be half as good as Arcane and look as visually pleasing as it did in the chronicles animation. Personally, I'd prefer if they made it more mature and catered towards adults because the previous Yu-Gi-Oh shows were already catered towards a younger audience.

[@pableitor2009]

I'm one to think that YuGIOh card lore has unlimited potential to create anime. Even outside of the big stories there's a lot of small archetypes with interesting lore behind them. And not all of them would need to be serious in tone, imagine a humor/gag-focused mini animated series about skull servants and their missadventures, or upstart goblin's greed screwing him over again and again... I cope that the animated chronicles will result in a yugioh lore anime, but I know its just a promo video for their new anime studio and will likely focus on other konami's IPs like Metal Gear

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

It wouldnt make people play the game. You need an anime with actual characters who uses the decks and teach people how to play.

[@pinballpuppy]

so a perfect example of how a card game anime doesn't even have to push a product to exist or be good. SHADOWVERSE: FLAME It improved insanely from the original series, the characters are amazing and very well developed, it gets every issue I've ever had with card game anime and squashes them, like hell, the side characters actually matter! everyone has stories, hopes and dreams, their reason to duel. this is the sole reason as to why I'm really excited for shadowverse: worlds beyond coming in a couple months!! the anime does in fact breathe life into the card game. you're right. we absolutely do need a main series ygo anime!!

[@QuestLogFaker]

Pokemon showed us that multimedia franchise have the cultural staying power to make a long term impact, idk how many boxes of LEDE they're selling but it can't be worth as much lol

[@mr.crowley8750]

Vrains is probably the worst YGO series, good plot but terrible production even worse than ARC V.

[@StayFrostyEnt84]

Thats why i play Duel Links like a multiversal/time traveling anime. The characters engage with one another and still have some interesting lines.

[@QuestLogFaker]

Duel Links is so goated for that, it's what dragged me back to Yu-Gi-Oh after a break.

[@StayFrostyEnt84]

@QuestLogFaker brotherman ain't that the truth. I left around the GX Era and I came back durning XYZ, but it was the 5ds anime that pulled me right back in. For me it feels like a behind the scenes or this is what they do in their down time and when it's time for events and raids is where they have to come together with "The power of friendship!🤣" to defeat the boss and save the world. Then they get to have fun tag duel tournaments together. I'm 40 and I've been playing since 2002. I currently main a Red Dragon Archfiend deck in Duel Links and Master Duel. Still having fun.

[@QuestLogFaker]

@@StayFrostyEnt84 awesome man, well we're glad to have ya 🫡 5D's is lit, I'm more of a Zexal guy personally but I totally get it, I just watched Bonds Beyond Time again last night and it's peak. You must have gone wild at that new red dragon archfiend SD.

[@StayFrostyEnt84]

@QuestLogFaker most definitely loved the new structure. It was the first real-world deck I'd built in years to be competitive. I just got the rest of the cards in the mail today so I can completely build it in real life in the way I usually run it Master Duel. Just gotta find some local shops to play in. I used to crush my wife's nieces and nephews with my old school ritual deck against their new xyz decks hahaha. Good times.

[@angelsinthere]

I think having a reboot of the og yugioh would benefit the game especially if Konami made a new format that only focuses on gen 1 era yugioh. They would start out with season 0 to the egypt arc with the same animation team that the dark side of demensions did also include the manga only storyline of Yugioh R but give the characters slightly updated cards for the arc then they can reboot the rest of the franchise following the manga making more money and more attention to yugioh

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Nah. japanese animation is garbage nowadays. Any form of remake will look worse than what they used to do in the 2000s

[@idkdontask7142]

I think it would be cooler to adapt card lore like visas or even better branded into an anime instead of a standard card game anime. In the OCG yugioh already has new mascots which is why theyre releasing merch of ash blossom or sky strikers. These are the real mascots of yugioh which TCG is simply ignoring. The cosntant nostalgia bait and lack of contact and increase of rarities often feels like they are ignoring or even insulting the "competitive" audience which is most of the players. I dont think im alone when i say i would be way more likely to buy ash blossom or kashtira fenrir merch as cards i recognise over 500000000th dark magician/blue eyes pandering to collectors merch. When you see pokemon stuff you don't just see pikachu, squirtle, charmander and bulbasaur, every new gen you see pikachu and all the new pokemon. Yugioh especially in the TCG just doesn't respect new and more iconic cards and instead keeps cashing in on nostalgia. It would be nice if they showed some kind of attention to cards that matter to us instead of vanillas that havent been summoned in 25 years.

[@QuestLogFaker]

I would really really love something in the middle, and I think that's where Yu-Gi-Oh will hit its stride, when they find the balance between bringing to life the cards themselves, and supporting a traditionally yugioh anime. Like I said in the vid I actually like nostalgia bait, but it has gotten old, and we do need something else new to reinvigorate that pool of creative energy. The only thing I'd disagree with is your idea that the competitive audience is most of the players, I don't believe that's true at all, but again it's about how Konami threads that needle, which like you said, they aren't doing at all right now.

[@dudono1744]

@@QuestLogFaker You could have an anime similar to the dark signer arc in 5ds where there's the whole spirit world thing.

[@idkdontask7142]

@@QuestLogFaker I actually understand why they stopped making the regular yugioh anime because the format got pretty stale. I wish they properly did an anime or at least a manga to showcase the albaz and visas lore rather than the standard duel disc duels where characters progressively get more cyberpunkesque and character designs begin looking ridiculous. I didnt like the spirit world arcs or when they tried to make duel monsters alive in any anime I think it almost always ended pretty badly. There is also the fact that as I said konami overseas doesnt care much about the current anime. All the advertising for vrains was just OCG imports while most products we kept getting were things like pharaonic looking tins, seto kaiba mats and legendary collection kaiba.

[@QuestLogFaker]

@@idkdontask7142 I couldn't agree more about Konami not caring, that's the main reason I'm not optimistic and am more just sharing my thoughts on the subject. I do think Konami is mishandling their IP and I don't think anyone really agrees on how to fix it. I don't think Vrains got stale but I can see why some might think that.

[@ianbraun271]

So... Yugioh Sevens and Yugioh Go Rush are not Yugioh. ok. Wait. Is this what the kids call Gatekeeping?

[@slowggles]

he explains himself 2 seconds later with they're not yugioh animes with the normal rules

[@Void_Dragon]

Ive been saying this since I was a kid: I would love a prequil to Yu-Gi-Oh in ancient egyptian times to tie into season 1. Explore how it all came to be in the first place, how monsters were roaming around before being sealed into stone tablets, the events that lead up to the 3,000 year long duel in the making, the whole thing.

[@WolfDB]

I'd honestly love an anime based on the lore. One of the things I liked about Master Duel was how it gave lore to some of the archetypes that aren't really in the anime. I'd love to see that expanded out even further. Make full on seasons focused on different worlds and stuff that are connected, like all the Albaz-related stuff, or the Visas-related archetypes. It would work as both a hype machine for new additions to the TCG like the original, but would give fans of the already existing archetypes something that makes them feel recognized

[@Ganonmustdie2]

Having an anime is good not just because it helps us connect the card games to a greater context, but also because it helps draw in new players from outside of Yugioh's typical demographics. This game says it's for kids, but with how complex the game is that's just not true. You practically need a law degree to understand half the rulings in the game, and it's way out of the scope of most people. That's where the show comes in, showing a lower level of yugioh new players can latch and build from whether it's casual play or outright playground Yugioh. As people get older they tend to move on anyway, so Konami can't expect to keep their cash cow of a game alive if their core audience keeps getting older and they don't refresh it with new interested kids/teens. But you pictured Konami as a baby sucking on a building block for a reason. They probably aren't thinking that far ahead lol

[@jayr5277]

If they ever revisit the original card game format for the anime, I think it should be a reboot or alternate universe anime that resets the card game back to square 1 (You’ve got ritual, you got fusion, that’s it) for most of season 1 then gradually introduce the other summoning mechanics throughout it’s lore. I don’t think they’d do it but I think it may help nostalgia bait some people in and then maybe get them to stick around for the introduction of the mechanics where they jumped off of since they’d have some investment in the characters at that point.

[@destroazuredx484]

going back to duel academy with all the new summoning mechanics and rulings/rules would be a neat way to teach new possible players and get nostalgia for old players

[@Milla4life2]

Man Yugioh was such a big part of my life. Born in 96 so I was there right when the craze started, I learned how to read just to read the cards. There’s been an empty hole in my life without any yugioh anime in the past 5 years.

[@Anotherbaka999]

I feel like sky striker is the most likely option because raye already has her own manga After that I can see one for ocg structures or magistus (since they're receiving a manga too)

[@averylr32]

very well made video!

[@BushidoRoad]

SEVENS and GO RUSH are Yu-Gi-Oh anime. Just because they focus on the Rush Duel format, it doesn’t mean they don’t count, so to say that there’s been a drought in Yu-Gi-Oh anime since VRAINS, which had a lot of behind the scenes issues to the point Studio Gallop had to end the series early and hand over the reins to Studio Bridge, is kinda ridiculous.

[@GG_Nowa]

Rush duel doesn't relate to the master rule that we play. The hype of vrains was seeing these decks become meta you could enjoy the decks but also crossover into playing the actual game easier

[@BushidoRoad]

@@GG_Nowa I was talking about the anime, not the card game. Plus, during the time VRAINS was out, the game became more complicated and confusing.

[@borgholable]

no man we need OG cast anime and more legacy support and to erata god cards and make them legit competitive

[@Monty2289]

The thing about a new YGO anime. Maybe marketing for stuff like this is way smarter than I am but this is the same fandom that got hype because they saw a random playing Zoodiacs for like 2 secs at the beginning of VRAINS or how Revolver played Mirror Force. Like we don't need to add more complexity. The YGO/Duel Monsters game is so large that the script writers should honestly never be bored and quite frankly it would be the best way to promote the actual game. Imagine you're checking out an episode and someone is playing like Harpies. You remember Harpies. Mai Valentine played them. But then she busts out Cyber Slash. You go nuts because here's this new powerful Harpie card. And lets say its a new viewer seeing for the first time Cyber Slash elevates the deck so not only is it just support for a nostalgic deck but something that looks cool that a a viewer may want to play irl. And then bang Cyber Slash is coming out in the next set. I'm not saying the anime would have that powerful of an effect but it worked enough on me to convert me from just a fan to a casual to an fan and intermediate player of both the anime and game.

[@Billy_Wyatt]

You really gave a very logical analysis and what the franchise needs to push forward the tv side of things. Konami has been digging deeper and deeper with nostalgia stuff which is not bad at all but Yu-Gi-Oh needs a new spin when it comes to the game and ofc the anime.

[@s.plissken_91]

I joined from watching the anime back in 2003. Crazy it's still popular now

[@badass6300]

If they made an anime based on the cards themselves as characters it would be amazing, but I don't trust Konami will ever do it properly.

[@LightMageMike]

So, not exactly on topic and definitely take with a grain of salt, but the little bit you mentioned about MTG and Commander is something I find critically important to any discussion of the ongoing health of a game. Because as someone who *used to* play MTG and Commander in particular (I cannot overstate the weight 'used to' carries in that sentence), I'll claim with the utmost conviction that the worst thing to happen to both Commander and MTG constructed formats is WotC paying attention to Commander. Because it was at its core the kitchen table-iest of kitchen table TCG. It was a format designed specifically around shifting how things are restricted to force players to find new ways to make things work. To find synergies between cards that were never meant to play together or find ways to make their favorite bad cards viable. But the instant that WotC started focusing on the format, all of that went out the window. When they started printing cards specifically designed for Commander, they were almost universally always better than any alternative; of course they were, they were designed for the format. so there was never a reason to not play those cards specifically meant for Commander. They were better than the alternatives and didn't require any jumping through hoops to make them work. So Commander started to lose what made it interesting as it started to fall into the same rut of powercreep the main game suffers from. A problem which then made the main game suffer because cards designed for constructed format were now being designed with Commander in mind and that threw off the entire design principal. On principal, newer cards are just better than the alternatives because they're trying to sell to two markets and need their moneymakers to hit both markets. To tie this back to your point, there's no way to focus on two things at once. Beyond splitting the market, the overall health of both formats will end up suffering since they're still inevitably tied to each other. The problems with one become problems in the other and the differences between the two end up forcing problems to come up no matter how much they try not to pay attention to each other.

[@DuleAres9189]

RPG MMO GAME would launch YuGiOh unvierse into sky. Image, playing as mage, hunting other monster, killing bosses like DM or BEWD, then prociding to fight vs fusion , xyz, link monsters , while living in whole new open world filled already with spells , traps and everything one such amazing universe can have.

[@jerryknudsen7898]

Honestly, with all the little stories and plots they add to the archetypes, I think something more in line with a story revolving around the cards than protags might be a fresh new take. I don't know how long that run could be, but it would be lots of fun mini series that don't have any pressure to continue or stagnate since they could tell a proper story, end it in like 12-24 episodes, and have another ready soon. Or even small movies. Pokemon dabbled in this idea back before ending the Ash era and still kind of does it.

[@TheDivineResonance]

I think a new anime that focuses on the ritual summons could be super cool, they have always taken a back seat and i think it has the potential for a lot of really cool duels

[@Rain-fe2mm]

Yesss. I’m thinking the same thing. I may self only play anime decks coz those are the decks that I can relate to since I watched them in action. It’ll be really great to see a character who’s using all summoning mechanic all of his duels. Pls Konami make it happen

[@MrTubeStuck]

Duel Links got me back to loving the game. Not because of the card game itself but because DM got really good support that made DMs fun to play with. Now I just enjoy building decks that I think a character from the show would actually play. Tea playing a DMG deck, Joey playing warriors deck that would lead into Red Eyes and the likes. Personally, its the best part of playing the game role playing a character into a game

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

We’re still getting Duel Monsters stories. The next upcoming Yugioh Anime is based on Duel Terminal and the lore of EVERY Monster, Spell, and Trap Cards. We also have two entries into the franchise after VRains called Sevens and Go.

[@bigwave1713]

I do wonder if the possiblity of adding achtype based on the monster from sevens/go rush. Like a retrain of sevens magican to fit in with TCG

[@level3xfactor]

Another hurdle to a new anime is that Konami is no longer working with Studio Pierrot, the company behind the anime since DM. The new studio working on Sevens also worked on the Vanguard anime, hence the art style change. In order to make a new series more in line with the DM-VRAINS era, Konami would have to either negotiate with a new studio or have their current one do it. Neither of which I see happening.

[@cholodelrosari0543]

Wait, isn't Studio Gallop the one in charge of the YuGiOh anime from DM to VRAINS?

[@rob19ny]

Yuugi Ou means Game King. It is a horror series about many different games being played. The only Yugioh anime that needs to happen is a remake anime of the original series that accurately adapts the source manga created by Takahashi. The Series 1 Yugioh anime by Toei intentionally butchered the story and characters of the manga by changing the story and characters all because it was a multimedia project that had the Bandai card game release on the same day as it. It added more card game battles than the manga showed in the 1st 59 chapters it was adapting. It also aired at 6 PM meaning censorship. Scenes were altered and chapters weren't adapted. Yugioh is meant to air at midnight for the older audience. The Second series titled Duel Monsters starts at chapter 60, but its a reboot (NAS/Gallop and Konami card game) so it disconnects itself from the 1st series and has to reintroduce Kaiba, Bakura, and Shadi that Japanese viewers already saw in 1998. It also butchered the source manga. Scenes, especially important story scenes were altered or left out that has anime only watchers asking, for example, why does Yami Yugi stop using the powers of the Puzzle?, and anime watchers misinterpret Yami Yugi attacking Kaiba as him not caring about Kaiba. This series aired at 6:30 and 7:30 PM during its run meaning censorship. It needed to air at midnight like the 1st series for the older audience. If a remake anime happens, Transcend Game can be adapted as a bonus episode after the last episode. It's crazy how Yugioh doesn't have 1 accurate adaptation of its manga. The anime staff just spit in Takahashi's face and changed so much stuff. They think they know Yugioh more than the creator.

[@NRYGO]

Give me a Structures anime! Its whole point is characters and showcasing various modern-ish decks Its a little outdated now, but its still really cool

[@No1SumOneTV]

we need a new anime with yugi back. make it like "Different dimensions" add new characters, Different problems. and old and new cards!

[@TheConuresrule]

Last exciting anime was 5ds. That's what made me a completely novice in the game (I was 8 when DM came to the states and loved just having the cards and watching the show) want to actually compete and learn how to play the game. 5Ds has the best characters, story (seasons 1,2,5) and card mechanics. That's why I started playing edison format last year. I will never touch modern.

[@jjasuka]

Best characters I don’t think so everything else you said is pretty true tho