Yugioh products are killing the game.

[@ArvoreMecanica]

I always see the point of s:p being a super in the ocg but you can also get it a secret or a quarter century version of the card, they give you the opition of "Ok if you wanna play cheap fine, but if you want a extra glamour you can still have this 2 options", is miss this kinda oportuniy.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

For real, do they think we wouldn’t buy boxes if sp was super? I would argue more would sell

[@thekittenfreakify]

I think is the baronne situation they will make it affordable then ban it.

[@CyrusIsnt]

​@TheDuelingBeard they would not bro. Regards most of it is still fluff. If you only want a 20 dollar card why buy a 60 dollar product?

[@DM-zi2up]

@@TheDuelingBeard If SP was a super people would even buy packs, Konami are just plain dumb.

[@SorinCloud]

Same with Dragon Master Magia. In the OCG, it was both an Ultra and a QCR and that card is affordable there. In the TCG, with it being only QCR, it's currently 880 dollars and rising. It's not worth it, even though it's a card I need.

[@Chewbyy]

Labrynth is so good and it's not competitively viable is just nuts!

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Lab is bonkers, the fact that it’s not viable is mind blowing

[@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw]

Lab is plenty viable. Lab is still getting top cut rep at major events. Lab is one of those decks that takes a very exceptional pilot that can REALLY pull the best out of each card. Yugioh's skill floor has only gotten higher and a deck like Lab is a perfect example of that. Playing a good deck sub optimally and banking on its raw power isn't enough anymore. The game mechanically is geared for a super, maybe almost HYPER, competitive approach. It's not for everyone, absolutely. But playing older formats can largely alleviate that pressure because the communities surrounding formats like Edison are much easier to approach and the game itself is more beginner friendly and digestible.

[@Chewbyy]

Can confirm my locals has dropped YGO it's sad 😢

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Damn that’s sad

[@richiemello3447]

You gotta remember, there are several factors that could be contributing to this and not just a stagnating product line; first of all there is master duel now which we didn't have a decade ago, people are getting older and more busy with their personal life, and we are also in a technical recession.

[@Danlight1911]

I got back into YGO around the start of this year after not playing it since childhood and shortly after I started gaining an interest in going to locals YGO was dropped...

[@kazumakariama]

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[@TheDuelingBeard]

😂 thats a good one & appreciate the sub, welcome aboard 😎

[@DICEBOY22]

Let me put it this way The abridged series for Yu-Gi-Oh jokes about " children's card game " But as far as the TCG card game itself in America that is literally how Konami of America is treating it and its players it is to the point of insulting to wear that treatment feels like an absolute Dragon Ball hard gut punch of embarrassment to where don't blame people for quitting the game.

[@randommaster06]

It's funny how Konami structured the TCG to only be profitable from extorting the customer base. Konami didn't bother growing the TCG market, so now new sets are only profitable if the good cards are pushed to higher rarities. Then those same cards don't get banned if they ruin a format until they get reprinted.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Spot on

[@CyrusIsnt]

I agree, but how would they expand the tcg market? Geographics are not in favor of the tcg. Japan has way less expenses and a more Concentrated base. And better transportation to and from events. Yes the tcg can make adjustments, but we cant just keep saying the ocg is better without Recognizing the tcgs inhernt weaknesses.

[@randommaster06]

@@CyrusIsnt Finding ways to grow your customer base is literally the point of the advertising and marketing departments. Konami doesn't spend any money to market in the TCG territories, they make less money from them. It's not some unknowable mystery, Konami simply doesn't want to do more than the bare minimum for the TCG.

[@CyrusIsnt]

@@randommaster06 i am not sure what their budgets so i cant say what they want specifically. It does feel like the do not care much or just are lost. But if they do want it bigger the tcg will need more money and attention then the ocg.. it just has way more issues in and outside the game

[@randommaster06]

@@CyrusIsnt The fact that Konami didn't advertise Worlds when it was in Japan shows that they don't really care about advertising at all. Konami won't even do worldwide releases because IDFK something, something, supply chain. Other games (not even TCGs) know preview season is 2-3 weeks of easy engagement and word-of-mouth advertising, but Konami prioritizes status quo over making more money.

[@ssaygun598]

Yh I just got into yu gi oh again after like 13 years but I see no one is selling physical packs/tins in stores I'm in London there are only like 2 places to buy everything and they don't even have a big selection ,not like before where you could find this game everywhere

[@xfighters3913]

Stuff like this is the reason i quit yugioh for magic. Yugioh needs an equivalent of commander format. A casual format where people can play "bad decks" like Amazement, Witchcrafter, or Tindangel without just instantly getting curbstomped and without having to sit through 30 minute turns. They kind of had this with speed duel but didn't commit to it.

[@Wuunderboy]

Speed Duel was a pure glimmer of hope... swiftly crushed by both Konami and the long term mainline fanbase that loathes anything casual related.

[@SouthSideOdaiba]

I quit the TCG a few years ago after Covid killed my Local’s. The game feels like a huge waste of money, especially if you play competitively. I’m still surprised about Master of Magia. A single rarity bumped card is worth more than half my rent.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Yea that was an interesting move to say the least, greed wise they know what they’re doing

[@u.a.perfectace7786]

Anyone else moving on from Yugioh? I mean buy the occasional single here and there but overall just switch to a new game? Didn't really vibe with Magic but Pokemon is drawing me in (already a fan of the game) and the barrier to entry is low AF (I am not being pushed to drop a stack just to play). Absolute pain in the ass to keep everything to one-three sellers on tcgplayer for Pokemon TCG. Haven't quite found the "Core Tcg/Project CCG" sellers on the Pokemon side (shipping costs 1.27 under five bucks adds up bruh lol)

[@TheDuelingBeard]

That’s kind of what we did, we just made our own format and it’s pretty cool. I feel like I’m too old to switch, if I stopped playing Yugioh o would just drop card games all together

[@u.a.perfectace7786]

@TheDuelingBeard Shit I can see that. Hard to really leave behind Yugioh. I like that. Leave the advanced format and play under custom formats. Still play the game but more enjoyable.

[@DM-zi2up]

I just left the game already, started playing during the pandemic. Invested a lot of money but it's no longer worth the hassle, due to many reasons, the price, the rarity distribution, the organized play, their anticonsumer policies, etc etc etc. I still play MD but 100% F2P.

[@TotallySearch]

You should talk about TCG exclusive archetypes being bad for YEARS

[@TheDuelingBeard]

I did in an older video, when I talked about my immeasurable disappointment in the ashened deck

[@LordKishi]

I literally only play retro formats now. The last time I played modern was last year and I honestly can’t see myself coming back

[@TheDuelingBeard]

I feel that, Yugioh is sweet but gets crippled by Konami’s greed

[@StudioBadGuy]

This years tin takes cake. A 400 card set with production quality in the shitter.The chances of NOT pulling trash is so low. Ill probably buy one for fun and wait 2 weeks for singles.

[@nmr7203]

What's the fun of buying the first one

[@StudioBadGuy]

@nmr7203 it's like a lottery or slot machine. Its fun the first time, but most people don't have self discipline to leave it at that.

[@Chewbyy]

​@@StudioBadGuytrue

[@TheDuelingBeard]

I’m with you there, I think that’s why Konami puts Yugi and kaiba on the cover every year, they know we’ll at least buy one for the collectibility

[@deannguyen391]

Decks that work by using the graveyard, we got shifter for that Decks that work by searching and ss from hand, we got droll and mulcharmy purulia for that Decks that ss from deck and extra deck (literally every deck), we got mulcharmy fuwaross for that That leaves 2 spot powercreep can go to: banish pile and link 0 extra deck monsters

[@Wuunderboy]

Its being sabotaged on purpose by Konami to kill the yugioh market outside Japan. They want to keep it purely inside Japan and thats it.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

I hope you’re wrong but actions speak louder than words

[@musvijajuzagrilariocara8583]

Spot on vid

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Appreciate that 😎

[@teamnarrowspades9726]

Looking into opening a store as someone who's played for over a decade and its crossed my mind to not sell boxes and only hold tournaments

[@TheDuelingBeard]

That’s a good move, you get to be super flexible that way, don’t have to listen to Konami

[@teamnarrowspades9726]

@@TheDuelingBeard its probably unavoidable the games still big in my area locals normaly span 20-25 players at most stores so its looking like i just have to bite the bullet

[@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw]

Konami's problems with selling cards could actually be solved by literally just giving us the OCG product. It can literally be card for card including the banned shit like Maxx "C" and it would still fly off shelves while also supporting both the comp and casual ends of the game. It's insane how stupid our product is and how easy the solution is for Konami. And as far as your examples go, imo PHNI and LEDE are like... the worst examples you could have used. INFO isn't good value outside of the chase secrets, BLTR was awful value, MZMI was piss poor. At very least PHNI and LEDE had strong singles in low ENOUGH rarities that the boxes themselves were at least worth CONSIDERING. My buddy literally opened one box of LEDE and pulled a full Tenpai core ffs. An easy to pull Top 3 deck is crazy value. I'd argue that now Lacrima, Beatrice, and Apo are banned Fiendsmith actually improves the overall health of the game. Hell, Fiendsmith HARD CARRIES Memento as a viable deck. Without Lacrima and Beatrice specifically the engine is generic, but not in a way that's super unhealthy imo. The engine is VERY self isolating in being LIGHT fiends specifically, and still requires a decent amount of skill to use while playing around or using it to push THROUGH Nib. On top of that, it gives a bunch of rogue and low tier decks a VERY substantial power boost that simply isn't as pronounced in the higher end decks. In fact, I'd argue the only top deck that can genuinely utilize Fiendsmith in any significant capacity is Yubel by virtue of benefiting from things like Aerial Eater AND still getting a Rank 6 like Wave King or something that turns into material fodder for your main combos once its materials are used. Also, Fiendsmith dropping right before nats imo at least isn't the actual problem. The REAL issue with Fiendsmith dropping right before nats is both MD cards, and one ED card were secrets. If they were in say Secret AND Super, I don't think we'd have HALF the issues we do with Fiendsmith. Also Also, things like Beatrice have been broken since release lol they're just inherently poorly designed cards on their own and Fiendsmith happens to be able to summon those specifically. I don't think that AGOV was an EGGREGIOUSLY powerful set. SOME cards in it were pushing the meta yes, but needed their second wave of support to actually do anything with the exception of S:P and TY-PHON notably. But even then, I'd argue PHNI pushed the power level of the game further than POTE and AGOV combined. I personally like the current power level of the game, I like how it plays, so I can't say too much but I WILL say full power Snake-Eye is about as powerful as I think I'm willing to go unless EVERYTHING jumps up with whatever would be better than that deck.

[@FruitMonstersTCG]

You can try out Fruit Monsters if you are looking for a new TCG!

[@TheDuelingBeard]

This sounds like a meme

[@FruitMonstersTCG]

@@TheDuelingBeard Its on my shorts if you want to check it out.

[@richardstamm2144]

Price value of sets is carried almost entirely on the back of meta power. Long as that's true, power creep is more like power sprint and playing the relevant part of the game will cost way too much in a time when most people don't have hundreds of dollars to drop for that month's cardboard The longer we go without shifting some of that set value to collectors and magpies, the faster this problem is going to accelerate. I am convinced the best thing for this game is doing more alt arts, rarity chase, and introducing extended arts. Make value out of something that isn't just meta power.

[@andrewcovell9692]

Finally someone addressing the product issue the dueling tins are a garunteed knockout even if they are as garbage as rumored due to the fact of what the tins represent other than rarity collection 2 rn there isn't anything worth picking up but that set was priced too expensive so still haven't even touched it and it sounds like there won't be another good mainline set till December when the mĄ1îć3 archetype is released

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Yea Konami is the definition of insanity

[@Trustypatch43]

I used to go to locals once a week every week for years, then somewhere midway through tear format I left, played master duel here and there and haven’t seen a format since that made me go, yeah I want to jump into that. Power creep has been way too fast, and the formats are any combination of just not fun, way too dragged out and ridiculously expensive with every format being borderline if not tier zero. As far as product the only actual product I’ve bought since the 2019 mega tin was rarity collection because it was an actually decent product. Sad it seems it was a one and done type thing since collection 2 was kinda shit

[@KateHikes1933]

I travel for work, and sometimes find a local store to check out. Several are only doing Pokemong and MTG.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

I’ve noticed that too whenever I’ve traveled to other cities. It’s interesting to note

[@hyperdimensionbliss]

Literally the only upcoming product I have any interest in is the new Speedroids, which I know I won't be pulling for because why do that when buying singles a week later will be infinitely cheaper and actually get me what I want without 50 junk commons going in the bin.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

We need more structure decks

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Agreed, that’s actually an upcoming topic for a video

[@phenomgaming3245]

The game isnt played by new players, its 25+ year old males that is the main audience. Teens and kids wont play this game unless their family or friends get them into it. the meta is being artificially controlled by banning/limiting all previous archetypes that were decent. Konami then makes the newest cards so OP that you need them to compete in meta, you have to play their format. So we are forced to buy the new cards if we want to compete. But the new cards are being turned into high rarity prints that artificially boost the price. Since its mostly adult males, theyre willing to pay more with their discretionary income. This prices out the kids and the casual players. This loop isnt changing, its been happening for years, and is why we will see things keep getting more extreme unless konami changes their practices. As far as i can tell, konami has given up on growing the franchise from a media perspective. The anime carried the card game but theres no new media content. It’s mostly nostalgic people left and there is no engine to bring new players into the game. The company has no soul, its focus is on driving profits and exploiting its current base as much as possible without a real plan to get new people in

[@Brightside187]

There is only one store in town that kept Yu-Gi-Oh.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Yugioh is dying

[@MochaChocoTutorials]

They need to hire Mr.Dueling Wave to Konami to revive the game 👍🏼

[@TheDuelingBeard]

THIS

[@masterflamewing234]

My locals went from 46 players to 4. Anyways one piece and lorcana are popping.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

That’s wiiiild 😅

[@masterflamewing234]

@@TheDuelingBeard not really. With the way Konami TCG is handling the game locals left and right are dropping the game

[@TheDuelingBeard]

I know but 4 people?!? That’s crazy. I’ve seen locals go from 30 to 10-15 but a 10x decrease speaks volumes

[@Dr.AvenVon]

at least lorcana has the same problem with supply shortages. no matter where I look, I can't buy any lorcana cards. sad

[@TruVibezz]

How could shit product kill Yugioh when Tearelements already killed it?

[@7StarEst]

Obama Hamburger

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Thanks Obama

[@joshelderkin9592]

Why in the world is tenpai $200 if its all commons 😂 this game is so fucked

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Because Konami for some strange reason made it to support trident dragion a card that came out a decade ago and hasn’t seen a reprint since lol

[@easyygo3008]

I disagree. Played since 2003, and power creep has always been a thing. There is a bunch of casually competitive decks atm; stuff like infernoid, LS, kashtura, purrely, centurion, etc. Can realistically top a regional, this is an era with variety despite just coming from a short tier 0 format. Core set rarities are fine as is, if anything, the ratio of good cards hasn't improved despite the average card quality going up. The constant reprints is what is killing the game, you can't buy cards without your collection getting destroyed left and right; stuff like reprinting retro pack is the ultimate show of this. I left the game for a year anf a half to play pokemom and to see high rarities of good cards at dirt cheap signals that something went wrong with reprint sets as they saturated the market. This means they will start reprinting newer cards faster, and that means product will struggle to move from shelves.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Fair enough, I don’t mind differing opinions when they’re backed up by sound reasoning like yours was 👍

[@Cardlimits]

you can always not buy it. crying about it on the internet does literally nothing.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Bringing up criticism about deep flaws in a hobby you enjoy is not crying. It’s constructive feedback.

[@Cardlimits]

@@TheDuelingBeard to who? other strangers on the internet that have literally no power about it. Since the feedback isn't going to konami, it's just crying.

[@Kewaaaaa]

@@TheDuelingBeard we already know that the way Konami prints cards in the TCG is solely for the point of profit. They’re a business at the end of the day.

[@KropekKrakers]

This video is extremely dumb. Core sets always had 100 cards since Phantom Darkness back in 2008.

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Listening comprehension is at a -1000 I compared the ocg box structure with the tcg structure That combined with other factors is ruining this game. Qtips aren’t expensive