I promise, and I can prove it

[@ZackarySmigel]

For the sake of science and the fact I don't have a sponsor on this video. I'm going to put one midroll on this video JUST ONE for the whole video. And please let me know in the comments if you got an ad or not. I'm generally curious what percentage of you do. If I had to guess, I'd say 70% but again. I don't have that data and no one except KZbin does.

[@tabbyx9926]

I got an ad for Google at the start off the video.

[@WatchThisSpace415]

I saw no ad.

[@ActualChrist]

Ublock origin works pretty wel for me

[@Mileke]

ad in the beginning

[@Dozeji]

Turned off the ad blocker to see how this would work, and didn't get an add. Perhaps it's because the cookie remembered to play the cached video without any ads pre-placed, but... It's just my guess

[@BenHeckHacks]

I love how KZbin puts their "warning context" labels on videos they deem misinformation, then shows you an ad for a "miracle cream that can regrow teeth"

[@sihamhamda47]

Or "get 1000% return in just a week" investment scam ads

[@furdiburd]

​@@sihamhamda47or "mr beast giveaway" just give us your email password, ID, and bank card :) no scam ofc

[@komiks42]

I remember geting add for "datting app" that had clip of girl geting screwed (all "naughty parts" were of screen) on a minecraft video once. They really put anything for add

[@POVwithRC]

Ben, as we know, Google is the pinnacle of opinionated prostitute. If you pay them, they'll do anything you want. If you do not pay them, they just get self righteous.

[@slick571]

​@@komiks42😂😂

[@niccalee]

I think it's ridiculous that KZbin lets scam and raunchy ads onto their platform but gets mad at a creator over the strangest things.

[@EmeraldEyesEsoteric]

Sorry, but youtube sucks. Nothing but censorship, shadow banning, ads, and now they are deleting inactive channels starting in December. I have a lot of playlists full of important videos whose creators are done. They made the videos, did their job, and now they are done. I have to go and hunt down their content. My own videos won't live on after I've perished either, now on his God Forsaken platform. It only ever gets worse, never better.

[@thetwistedone05]

I had an ad about an automatic banana cleaner... well atleast the caption said it was one.

[@NomastiAfricanWarlord]

The ads give them money, random KZbinrs do not.

[@TheAstroProblem]

have you seen the "magic sex gun" add? i did. look it up.@@thetwistedone05

[@ThatOneGuy_1.0]

I had 10 ads watching this...

[@bluepheonixsoul1553]

The most surprising part of this video was learning that nearly 10% of users have premium, that's honestly an order of magnitude more than I expected.

[@NerreraFightStories]

Premium is not for everyone but it's decent value in my opinion if KZbin is your main media entertainment source, as you get KZbin Music with Premium too so you don't need to pay for Spotify/Apple Music

[@shigekax]

Honestly youtube premium isn't bad, I had it for free for 3 months (thanks genshin impact) and it was nice I'd go back to it if I was able to budget better

[@dreadedTanker3173]

I run adblocks on my pc, and I just deal with it on my phone. Not like I ever buy anything from the invasive ads anyways. And I’d rather not give KZbin my money.

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

Not, _that_ surprising, KZbin nowadays is unwatchable with ads. So your options are 1. use an ad blocker, 2. pay for premium, or 3. just leave the platform, and watch something else. Also it's just US data, where people love to pay for anything.

[@calamorta]

It's cheap, allows a smoother experience all around, and it's a far better service than Netflix etc (you can always count on it for entertainment, unlike Netflix's catalogue)

[@Ertplays]

The biggest thing wrong with KZbin… medical videos (like how to do CPR) also have ads! Don’t know how to do CPR? Well, ad time! You don’t get to save someone’s life!

[@PancakeForg]

You can’t save their life, but you can save KZbin’s money!

[@stupit467]

"Well with KZbin Premium..."

[@Ertplays]

@@stupit467 “which I can’t afford”

[@d4c_chayan9100]

@@Ertplays "which i won''t even though i could ,womp womp"

[@TheOneAndOnlyMal]

"Sorry to hear that, . KZbin Premium is an ad free-" -KZbin, 2023

[@PuppetNerd]

If you don't post for 6 months, 100% of your ad revenue starts going to KZbin. You should make a video on that too. This terribly effects people who become ill, disabled, or even pass away hoping to leave the revenue generated by their library of content to their families.

[@ZackarySmigel]

I never realized that. Wow.

[@perhapsyes2493]

What. That is absolutely appalling... if not outright illegal? The uploader retains copyright, yes?

[@Muhluri]

So they actually follow that rule? That sucks

[@suedonym495]

Ok wow wtf. In that case my prediction for the future of KZbin is that creators that haven't posted in months will upload what amounts to a filler video of no true substance just to maintain revenue. Thus, by no true fault of their own, KZbin will just end up almost completely devoid of actual content. Becoming really, just a shitvideopost site

[@stevekullens4898]

Damn, and here I thought one of the benefits of being a youtuber is having flexibility.

[@anonymouspig992]

I hate the fact that if you miss the skip ads button you have to suffer through the second ad until you can skip that one

[@dimeweld]

What kind of scheme shit is that right?

[@hitsugatatsuro9978]

And when you don't miss it, you have a chance to get unskippable ads. Even for videos less than a minute long. Once got a 5 second ad for a 10 second video. I wish YT implemented a 1 minute minimum to video uploads cuz I keep getting shitposts recommended to me if I click even one for fun which they slap feckin ads to for some reason.

[@Noblesse_Sapphire]

I used to clicked on the ! sign near the countdown and "report" the add to skip it (not doing anything for the ads tho, they still give me the same frikken ads) When i updated my KZbin version i can't even do it anymore, you can still report it, but it doesn't skip the ads :""D

[@ketimmi8109]

I hate when you are nice enough to watch through the entire ad but then they give you a still picture with a timer

[@trevorwylie5882]

On my laptop if when an ad starts I just keep reloading the video using the chrome reload icon until there is no ad and it puts the viewing figures too if the ads still keep appearing I just move on to another video.

[@DFOwl]

It is extremely frustrating how KZbinrs get demonitized for the smallest infraction (even if it's nothing really) while advertisers can upload scams, cult recruitment ads, etc.

[@jackpijjin4088]

"Eek, you said the fuck word! Demonitized!" *the ad they put on next is for custom resin dildos. Yes that's a real ad I've gotten.*

[@Serendip98]

And porno bots act in total peace, with no response from KZbin.

[@chrisanderson7906]

and they never did fixed the spam bot problem in the commets of some popular youtuber's videos like penguinz0 there are still don't read my name bots and my farts smell better then blank's bot...

[@mortenlarsen8282]

​@@chrisanderson7906😊

[@ralphwarom2514]

:D Thank you. I really hate all these scam, sprots betting ads being thrown at me. Like OMFG. WTF. I dont mind ads. I really mind terrible low tier low morality ads.

[@mozzapple]

KZbin just added more ads. Every time I pause the video. EVERY TIME. It will take me out of fullscreen to show me a popup ad on the area where the comment section popup is

[@flitsertheo]

Each time you try to skip a part of the video too.

[@Chaso-1124]

The worst kind of ads are those on the app where the video will take over 75% of the screen and the other 25% is an ad banner wanting you to click on their link to buy their stuff. It is so jarring and frustrating when you are in the middle of the video and decide to go scrolling through the comments but immediately get interupted and can't look at anything until this unskippable ad finishes all the way through. It completely removes you from the video, comments, and the experience

[@pinobluevogel6458]

Any advertisement during the video is going to take away from the experience. Besides maybe in rare cases the creator places a point for an ad-roll, I would only understand a short ad at the beginning for longer videos. While watching DJ mix-sets, we used to be able to at least watch the whole video (about an hour or slightly over) with only an add at the beginning and at the end, but a few years ago the ad frequency and length both increased drastically. Now there is an ad about every 10 minutes, which basically defeats the whole point of watching the set. We've had to resort to adblockers on our pc and having to download the whole thing on USB and play it from there on our smart-tv. Imagine how bad this is for short form content. Having a 5 minute video with two 14-second ads in front of it, I've seen that already a few years ago. Its just not worth your time anymore, so I cannot understand people put up with it and google trying to force it.

[@Chaso-1124]

@pinobluevogel6458 True, any ad is a take away but these are especially bad since you can't even look at the original video description or comments It makes me not even want to watch short content. Why bother watching a 5 minute video if I get 2 or 3 ad rolls. It gets so bad sometimes with the ads and repetitive content that sometimes I just turn off KZbin and find something else entertaining. It's like the old feeling of watching TV, nothing is really on and you keep seeing ads for stuff you don't want. Eventually you just turn it off and find something else

[@pinobluevogel6458]

@@Chaso-1124 Understandable. Without ad-blocking, I wouldn't have been as invested in youtube at all. Just sticking to less horrible platforms, or simply resorting back to offline entertainment would probably not be too bad either.

[@kevinm.n.5158]

I just close the video, go to history if I have to and open and close the video til the ads stop. Hopefully that prevents them from getting the money

[@FlyingTeaRex]

Yea, I really hate that too. The comment section gets reset to the top and you don’t know how far you’d read.

[@sativaburns6705]

As a former premium subscriber, I found a other issue is youtube aggressively demonetizing many of my favorite creators over content like video game violence, or erroneously calling them a clip repost channel...

[@numizumi5131]

This is actually why I stopped doing premium looks like I need a good ad block

[@decreer4567]

It’s so KZbin can keep the ad revenue to themselves

[@SLVYER1]

Remember when you just paid KZbin like five bucks and then I would show your video like 200,000 people, and it was up to them to click it or not. Now you're paying them that money monthly and you're not getting anything for it's crazy, no room for growth. It really makes youtube a one class platform

[@TheTraveler980]

​@@numizumi5131CleanTube. It's an app that is an ad-free version of KZbin.

[@MrQuequito]

A friend of mine gets his videos demonetized all the time, there isnt an explanation and the video itself isnt sexual related, its a child toy related, no bad language, no weird images, no copyright music. Nothing, then he appeals and youtube always reinstates the monetization, but well after the first wave of views, which is what makes the most profit

[@mikond]

not only that, increasing the number of ads actually hurts the creators because more people are downloading adblocks.

[@TheAnxiousOwl]

To me, it hurts creators because theres less watch time for the actual content and ads become so annoying that people give up halfway through the video

[@BT-ex7ko]

@@BruceOMalley I feel this. Currently using an adblock, but with adblocks constantly under fire-if they ever remove functionality for adblockers entirely, I'm out. I have better things to use my time on and honestly, I've never once in my life clicked on an ad or spent money on an advertised product on youtube in my entire life. Especially now since most are scams or blatant malware. Its kind of disgusting. I do feel bad for creators, I do, but I can't support this behavior at all from youtube.

[@thederpwad8282]

@@BT-ex7ko I'm in the same boat. Honestly, if they restrict adblockers, it will probably be good for me in the long run to be forced off this website.

[@Content_Deleted]

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[@AslgamingOffical]

I vividly remember when I first started using KZbin vanced, it felt like a breath of fresh air, no ads, I could see the dislikes, and all the neat features it originally had where back, but then just recently it just...... Stopped working out of nowhere, and now I have no other choice by to use regular KZbin, I remember just feeling defeated when that happened bc to me it felt almost like Google was responsible for shutting it down so I can go back to their crappy version shell of former youtube, All lot of the features on regular KZbin have sorts grown on me but the ads.... My god the ads, they will always give me migraines

[@jimsiggy3983]

Funny, this video is from a year ago and asks does KZbin feel different now? Holy crap, this year KZbin has jumped the shark with their ads. I’m getting like 10 times more ads, longer ads, ads on videos that never had ads before…it’s really ridiculous now!

[@suomingstar]

AND now they wanna roll ads when you PAUSE the DAMN VIDEO, like WTF???

[@theCodyReeder]

What I find infuriating is if I don't want to show ads and so turn off monetization KZbin starts showing ads anyway without paying me. So I have to enable monetization and set it to the bare minimum ads. This of course doesn't remove them entirely only reduces them.

[@EthanPerales.]

Seems accurate, as I don't see many ads on your vids, I just thought you were getting the short end of the stick, but apparently it was purposeful.

[@GhostKing6790]

Well you’re uploading on their site. You are using their hosting service which costs them resources to run and maintain. If you don’t want to pay someone else to host your videos, then make your own hosting service.

[@noelvalenzarro]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@GhostKing6790you mean the fraction of a fraction of a cent the video costs to host?

[@Sanji66]

W

[@pottsy.]

Oh hi Cody!

[@MyThirdUserAccount]

Really miss the days when you could create a music playlist and just listen to it uninterrupted. Same playlist now has innumerable ads between songs, some 5x longer than the videos they're playing on

[@xoxablade8345]

EXACTLY! I FIND IT SO ANNOYINGGGGGGGG Like can I PLEASE listen to ONE song without having to sit through THREE unskippable ads to hear it???

[@janky200]

Omfg not to mention ads in the middle of longer songs 😒

[@sharedgrave]

if you have ios theres an app called musi thats youtube based and only has visual ads that dont really disrupt anything :)

[@draketeeth8004]

The ads in the middle of long songs kills the vibe so hard.

[@sebastianestrada3697]

Or when you put on a video of rain sounds to fall asleep, cause apparently you need ads in your dreams.

[@trevorslinkard31]

KZbin did Armchair Historian dirty by demonetizing his educational, unbiased history videos claiming they weren’t ad friendly, then still rolls ads on them. It’s borderline criminal.

[@gandalf_thegrey]

They do that with everyone. Not one exception. They tell you, your videos arent suitable for ads - and put the very same amount of ads on this video. Just so they can pocket 100% instead of having to give out a few cents per 1000 views.

[@hitsugatatsuro9978]

​@@gandalf_thegreyKinda wonder about that. KZbin tends to play favorites, especially to their cash cow cash creators. Lower million channels just get left in the dust while the behemoths get their own YT rep who vouches for issues they bring up internally, as per what I've seen from Mark and Jack's channels during periods they'd get unlawfully stricken by the bot.

[@Hirohitorunguard]

calling armchair historian educational and unbiased is a stretch if i've ever seen one, but i don't think he makes anything that is demonetizable at least.

[@jeevacation]

​@gandalf_thegrey creators gets 55% not just a few cents for 1k views

[@Gliese710_]

@@jeevacation55% probably is still a few cents, you dont make shit if you aren’t massive.

[@wkt2506]

Also the ads are in the middle of the video and intrusively interrupting the actual content is hard to comprehend. I go to KZbin to relax but now it feels stressful!

[@RedGreen-Blue]

Well put! The youtube has become STRESSFUL to at least 4 billion users. That's a lot.

[@MrxD-cg5xs]

KZbin should be held responsible for what is shown in their ads. There is really no excuse for them not to monitor what they themselves are advertising on their platform- they collect money from the advertisers to show their stuff after all. It can not be that there are blatant scams being advertised or that there is literal pornography being shown on KZbin Kids like we had a few years ago.

[@kateajurors8640]

Yes and while I'll get some ads from legit companies like weibo or whatever I don't want to use weapon and then when I block the ad I get the ad except instead of from the weibo company it's from some other company based out of Hong Kong and a lot of spam companies are coming from Hong Kong for some reason or maybe it's a company that works with advertisement.

[@IanGilleson]

I once got a semi-threat from a scam add for gas masks

[@joshb6470]

sit at the home screen and watch the counter on it skyrocket, I am up to 20 already on this video alone, was close to 300 before I clicked this video

[@gandalf_thegrey]

The was never any "literal pornography" on YT Kids. Elsagate and Pronography are two entirely different things.

[@bok9596]

I try to say that i dont want period product ads like 5 times but it didnt stop so i gave up

[@jarethanson8775]

I refuse to pay KZbin to fix an ad problem that they created

[@johnberger55]

this makes snek happy

[@DragonloverWV]

The only reason I have Premium is that I am a minor and my dad pays for it

[@MrOsmodeus]

i refuse to pay youtube for doing nothing but host the videos. the users make the content youtube only helps if they're already popular. if youtube has a problem with income (they do not) maybe they could reign in the 4k video's and people livestreaming shower thoughts from potato's. maybe take the 6 year old "breaking news" videos off of the algorithm. at least netflix/disney/amazon etc make content. youtube is just a video search engine hosted by the most famous search engine. if alphabet keeps this up your google searches will be delayed by two video ads before you can see the results

[@zoeyfalconer85]

very well put, i agree

[@hydrogenbond7303]

@@MrOsmodeusmost of the money from premium goes to the monetized creators

[@rhettorical]

The first time I heard that KZbin will run ads on non-monetized videos, I was disgusted. I still am. I get why they do it, but it's still disgusting. I flat refuse to ever disable my adblocker. If I want to support someone, I will do it directly.

[@Alex-Defatte]

That happened to my channel and I am furious. Sound cloud is no better. I don't know where to take my music. I want a better platform.

[@o_o8203]

@Specious-Official Patreon? You'd still use KZbin and probably upload differently but I'd consider it.

[@Alex-Defatte]

Thank you so much. I never thought about it. I don't like asking for money for my music but if someone's already taking from my pocket I suppose I should really consider it. @@o_o8203

[@doomawsogaming]

Unfortunately, Google plans on blocking ad blockers

[@dimesonhiseyes9134]

​@@doomawsogamingthey have been trying for a long time.

[@DrumsOnToast]

3 ads, and I have premium. Because of this plethora of ads EVERYWHERE interrupting EVERYTHING, I've stopped being online as much and am actually going outside, hanging with my friends and pursuing creative projects. I WIN! ;D

[@speedodragon]

I find it super predatory that they take ad revenue from creators that aren't getting paid. If they aint getting paid neither should KZbin.

[@RamkrishanYT]

You guys are insane, servers cost money People are free to just not upload.. Don't insult by comparing it to slavery

[@captaincactus5247]

so you're on youtubes side with the whole ad thing?@@RamkrishanYT

[@Johnny_Silverhand1]

@@RamkrishanYT I don’t think you understand the point my guy either out of willful ignorance or malicious brown nosing. If YT/GOOG came out from the start and said ads on non monetized content would pay for servers, then no one would have an issue. The point is that YT became popular in the first place because the whole schema was ads would go on monetized content only under the pretense that creators get paid. Changing company policy years after the fact and without a formal announcement of any sort may be legal and well within their rights but its not ethical nor should creators take it sitting down. This hurts small creators with non monetized content the most. Stop brown nosing for multi billion dollar corpos when will you bozos learn

[@SonetLandman]

I feel that this is one possibility that KZbin does apply brakes to beginner channels. Logically it does not make sense that I got to 500 subscribers fairly easy and quickly in 5 months with bad quality videos as I had no idea what I was doing. Now, after the 500 mark I get 1 subscriber a week if I am lucky. This makes no logic sense to me. My subscriber speed should have picked up. But slowing me down means a lot longer period for KZbin to take 100% of the ad revenue off of my content. Also keep in mind with our complete broken down postal system in South Africa I can wait up to 6 months before I get the code KZbin sends to your physical postal address plus then there is the chance that it can get lost in the post completely.

[@KandyChoppe]

@@SonetLandman Making videos is making art, and if someone is going to profit off of that art by doing nothing except share it with the class, the least they could do is give some of the money back to the person who made it. If they can't do that, then don't profit off of it.

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

The only way to fight KZbin’s horrible ad system is to not pay for the overpriced premium and just block the ads

[@20s_Day]

Or use a free adblocker

[@dimesonhiseyes9134]

​@@20s_Dayman, ad blockers are super sketchy sometimes.

[@ian2183]

Yup

[@nettack]

@@dimesonhiseyes9134 If you cannot be arsed to research the legit ones you deserver everything coming your way.

[@toxicpony3381]

Same here - adblock installed. KZbin has problem with what?😎

[@GGmanlife]

In the past 1 or 2 weeks I’ve noticed that there have been far fewer skippable ads too

[@emmalee343]

If I see another Hello Fresh ad, I'll sign up with a competitor out of spite. Having said that, advertisers need to be made aware of this problem. They could potentially be losing customers.

[@magnolia972]

everyone is loosing because i don’t even buy from a competitor. YT ads are the best way to avoid companies, influencers, wise guys, etc.

[@Jeefane]

I actively avoid brands that advertise to me relentlessly or in an intrusive way, and I slander them if anyone brings them up in conversation. Unless I sought out the product/service, they can get bent.

[@bjornskivids]

Subscribe to KZbin and actually become a customer and you'll never deal with the "problem" again. Free-riders are not customers. Losing them costs KZbin exactly nothing. They're like kids that bring their own cups to Burger King and sit at the soda fountain all day lecturing the manager about how badly they'd be missed if they weren't there freeloading.

[@just1luckyguy229]

​@@bjornskivids except thats not true, is it? KZbin marketed itself as a free platform, getting money by showing you ads, and gathering data, and nobody raised an eyebrow. Problem is, they invented this "ad problem" niwadays, to grab as mutch money from everyone as they could. Just cancel premium and use the workarounds, saves you the money and time.

[@PineappleDealer37]

Imagine advertising a product, which is only available in the capitals and biggest cities of the biggest countries to, let's say, the entire internet. Usually people are aiming at 2% click rate on advertisements, but this is actually even worse. Even if the 2% do click on the adds, 90% of these people will see "Service unavailable in your region" What's the point

[@mrrowwmeoww]

it's hilarious they block adblockers, then give me an advertisement for a scam adblocker

[@lordTyrus9]

I know, i keep getting advertised for "privacy add blocker". Wile the add blocker being hypocritical for blocking adds wile advertising their product.

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

Opera GX ad block works great.

[@8bitminer]

@@lordTyrus9it both creates a problem and offers a solution

[@SW73thegrayWindows]

@@viperdemonz-jenkins Opera GX is 🗑️

[@asrr62]

​@@SW73thegrayWindowsbruh I can't get over how ugly the UI is on that browser it's so ugly never seen anything like it!!

[@primsine]

Finally, it makes sense why they keep advertising small KZbinrs now. It's literally free money if they blow up.

[@halinaqi2194]

You're right, get them views, make money while the smaller channel can't get monetized, and once they're big enough to be monetized but not large enough to be self sufficient on KZbin you stop pushing their content. A large majority, and I mean an overwhelming majority of KZbin users barely have any subs. And number of subs doesn't necessarily correlate with video quality, sometimes I find smaller channels with great content, that go a long while without "blowing up" Its a bit sad, but I guess that may be the price to pay for any average joe to be able to upload a video. I just wish that no matter how small you are, you'd get a cut of a revenue, cuz that would incentive some smaller youtubers to get more serious about it than just treat it as a hobby.

[@RosellaMae_]

Yea, on my old channel i got a 20 second ad on my own video and i didn't earn any money from it as my channel wasn't monetized. I had 200 subs at the time Edit: i forgot to mention the video was only 12 seconds

[@m.a.4500]

*An advertisement at the start and end of a video is reasonable.* But they are spamming it too often now. A complete deterrence. Even more annoying is its usually the same ad constantly repeated over and over at a louder volume. Not to mention the intrusive ‘next video’ popup at the end of videos that blocks the screen so you can’t see. The ‘recommended’ non-video ads and shorts can also be offensive and inappropriate, and you can not block them. And there should be a filter to block out all videos without audio or ‘captions subtitles’ translations in your own language. Its choresome scrolling through so many foreign language videos just to find something you can understand.

[@thepericlesof8449]

I am a business owner, and I would NEVER waste a cent on advertising on KZbin. If I myself actively AVOID brands which annoy me through YT ads, I cannot be the only one who generates a distaste for the brands that annoy me during my leisure time.

[@benjaminsmith3645]

i’ve been getting the same ad over and over for months and i will never buy from their service because their ads are so damn annoying

[@Bytheirfruitsshall]

Me too, and also this whole issue of getting targeted ads - After you buy a product, like furniture, that you may never buy again! Why would any advertiser use YT? Im not in 99% of their demographic. Then there are the scam products, scam "make money online", tmi hygiene products, and throughout lockdown l got funeral plan ads multiple times a day for over a year, and yes, now l keep a mental of note of ... Avoid these companies, they despise their customers.

[@monkeymonkeyman88]

What's your business called?

[@monkeymonkeyman88]

Also W business owner

[@thepericlesof8449]

@@monkeymonkeyman88 not on this platform dude

[@PsychosisPicksDeals]

If the ad system were to be implemented as you proposed, I would disable my adblock to support the creators I like.

[@rhidiandavies1991]

One of the little things that's really been annoying me lately is that, on the phone app, as well as the usual ads, KZbin will play an ad AFTER the video, that locks you out of the viewing window. So if you wanted to click through to a creator after watching their video you have to sit through the whole ad first.

[@ERRandDEL]

A 45% increase on pre rolls is an understatement in my experience. The yt app on my tv set will always throw me a pair of them over and over until I've backed out of the video enough to where they stop. Often, I'll get a pair of pre rolls that end and immediately get a second pair. Rewinding or fast forwarding gets a pair. Pausing the video for a few minutes gets a pair. The literal end of the video after the timer is up gets a pair before autoplay can begin counting down. Of course the next video gets a pair too. And this is all ignoring the sheer density of ads. every 4 minutes or so for me, and I tend to prefer having long videos on in the background. It's just too much work to babysit the mute button to not get blasted with the same dumb BK jingles, square space, invisiline and whey noise every four minutes.

[@MisterAzathoth]

I'm having the same exact experience. I get so many ads to the point it's unwatchable on TV, yet the same video on the phone app will have a fraction of those ads.

[@michaezell4607]

I just use adblock on my computer. Unfortunately not on my phone however. I will continue to use adblock until such time as google's CEOs get it through their thick skulls that we're NOT going to put up with incessant advertising on the platform and we're not going to pay Google money for the privilege of watching ad free content.

[@kevinwong_2016]

​@@michaezell4607KZbin vanced 💀 Don't support KZbin💀

[@Cats_N_Doodles2018]

Ik this isn’t the newest comment but when using YT on the TV recently, my dad noticed that when you pause a video and leave it paused long enough, it starts showing and ad plus a QR code for it, it’s really wild!! It’s weird how much this site wants to suffocate us with advertisements

[@RedGreen-Blue]

It's shocking how google and youtube are treating people now. We are tied up to the chair and force feed. That's abusing. Seems that their AI s are already attacking humanity. My advice is to remove those dollar signs from their eyes so that they can see reality.

[@kagitsune]

Also, youtube pushing so many ads is pushing viewers off the platform. Creators get more stressed at how their pay per ad has been halved, youtube is stressed because they can’t charge as much, advertisers are stressed because they know that no one wants to engage with their annoying interruptions. Everyone loses. It’s a terrible system.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Everyone loses except N😊ebula creators

[@dimesonhiseyes9134]

Never ever ever engage with an add on any platform.

[@gandalf_thegrey]

Adblock guys. Adblock.

[@joshhelton2007]

It legit benefits nobody. Except maybe KZbin until everybody bounces from their platform and they do start losing money. If that ever happens of course

[@glennartstuffs-freejazzfil4730]

Putting ads on videos without the permission of the creator was actually the thing that made me stop making KZbin videos. The only solution to these issues is for the big KZbinrs to start organising and forming content creator unions. KZbin won't listen to you unless you can get organised. KZbin is like any other business or institution in our society; if you're not costing them money, they don't care. It's up to you, though. I no longer have any skin in that game (live like you're free already).

[@hoej]

Isn't that what 'Standard' did a bit with Nebula?

[@user35678_tt]

Il gonna send this to yt

[@mobiusmind5573]

Unfortunately people don’t have the balls to try such a think. It’s like a revolution. Too many are benefiting but once the bottom class becomes larger that’s when people finally wake tf up

[@svampebob007]

" if you're not costing them money, they don't care" You mean the TB of data that get's uploaded to KZbin every hour for free? in that sense you're wrong on all levels. Creators and Consumers cost KZbin a ton of money every single second of watch time, that's why Google is trying to limit the money burning party that is KZbin. I get that ads suck, but honestly I'm amazed that KZbin has survived this long, the product that they deliver free unlimited upload at 1080p, 2160, 4k@60fps no matter how big or small you are.. Unlimited "download" speeds (with a 1Gbps line I get basically 600-700Mbps down from KZbin even when I'm not logged in) That's insane, the cost is that the consumers have to watch ads ever half second... Other then the ad problem that I solve by just using adblockers, KZbin is an insanely good product that is doing everything it can to give the "users" the best experience compared to the shit show of "free but limited" options out there, the tools that they give ANYBODY for free is why we have practically 0 competing product out there. "odysee, vevo, daylymotion"... nah brah consumers are all at KZbin, and frankly they don't even force the consumer to "upgrade or make a free acount" to enjoy KZbin. We are all out here complaining that KZbin should be free? more expensive to Google? what exactly are we complaining about "They put ads on a free product? that I can enjoy without any other limitations"? Basically we sound like spoiled brats... I mean You guys sound like spoiled brats because every time I mention that I just use adblock people try to bitch about "huurr durrr your leeching of others". but "I just want one add no two because I don't really like ads... I don't care how expensive your servers are I just want one add" that sounds even worst to me.

[@mobiusmind5573]

@@svampebob007 I feel like people like you give these companies leeway to do some shady ass business practices. ALL the costs you mentioned are a fraction of a fraction of what KZbin is gaining off of ads and creators. Actually do research for the numbers before making such a statement, no one said KZbin isn’t a good platform. But it’s mainly bc it’s so established and has a monopoly on the video industry ASLO bc of creators! only close contender is Spotify

[@hazelhazelton1346]

If I didn't have an adblocker that worked, I couldn't use KZbin at all. It's just too much.

[@egullSZ]

Sorry creators. Ads are repulsive. I was using ad blocker back when I only had to watch 1 skippable ad, now that I have to watch multiple I'm definitely not turning off my ad blocker.

[@johnberger55]

snek approved

[@maxschmidt666]

Underrated comment. Whoever watches ads is stupid, because its a waste of time.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

Agreed. I've been running an ad blocker since the late 2000s. I'm not giving corporations more access to me to use psychological and sociological manipulation tactics that they've sunk billions of dollars into research to perfect to brainwash me more than they have already. It's just like... stay the fuck outta my head.

[@kittenchristmas4194]

I only watch KZbin if I'm using an adblocker now because KZbin kept giving me the same, unskippable ad for some star wars branded soap or something every single time I clicked on a video. It didn't matter what the video was it showed the same thing. I miss the days when ads were just a small banner on the bottom of the screen you click to close.

[@apostrophe.t]

It's wild that you had 14 subs like two months ago and now you have over 61k. You're doing a great job, Zack!!

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thanks so much! It truly is wild.

[@Wafferuh]

@@ZackarySmigel you got anotha one from me, see you at 1 million bro

[@BlackMoga]

@@ZackarySmigel why do you use runescape music in every video?

[@GoldenOwlEvents]

2 months?? That's impressive as hell.

[@boegadi]

The algorithm went pretty wild here. The previous video showed up in my feed randomly and now this one too. Let me just add to the sub pile, it’s good stuff

[@--Paws--]

I literally changed my age to like 14, to just avoid some of the ads I keep telling Google or KZbin to not show. It seems some ads do not show up at all but there ones that you cannot escape. The political ads seem to appear no matter what age you set yourself. I changed my age back since it didn't matter, the ads will target you no matter what.

[@JP-ve7or]

Interesting strategy. I keep getting horrible transphobic ads I can't seem to block permanently. When I try to see why I'm being targeted, it's usually because of my age (late 40s) 🙄

[@williammashtalier479]

​@@JP-ve7orThe transphobic ads are really hurtful and I don't think KZbin should be accepting money for these people to spread hatred.

[@Bytheirfruitsshall]

​@@JP-ve7orWhat does a transphobic ads entail? No brain dead circular reasoning please, this is not a Fascist Dictatorship where your word is writ.

[@moonlit_ruffles]

​@@Bytheirfruitsshallim guessing transphobia, could be wrong tho

[@upvoter8798]

Sounds odds youtube would let such an ad show if it the truth. Given how many times has someone took issue with youtube, that lead to all content creators being effected due to less ad income? For this sound like it would easily lead to another ad apocalypse as the content creators called it. Then again this is youtube. That seems to let the most questionable ad play, at least if it for a mobile game.

[@brittlebirt]

I've noticed a huge change in the amount of ads I receive on long form content on KZbin, SPECIFICALLY while watching on my TV. It's not nearly as bad on my phone. But for an hour of content, I can sometimes receive up to 10 minutes of ads. It's awful!

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

As a KZbin Premium user in Washington, it was $17.99 and they bumped it up to $22.99, and if I hadn't checked my spam folder I wouldn't have known that they increased the price. There definitely should've been a warning in the KZbin app about this, but I didn't get one. Also I feel it's scummy that creators who aren't in the program get ads but no money from it, I think the piggy bank idea could work tho. Edit: I live in the USA in the NW. So please state your currency in the case that I'm getting triggered by wildly different pricing but it's only because of the world's many different forms of money Edit part 2: also I'm doing the family plan, but I've seen in this very comment chain or section or whatever that it's somehow cheaper. I have yet to see in USD it be as expensive or more expensive then the price I'm forced to pay, and idk how or why. Edit 3: is everyone saying that they get it cheaper getting a discount because of being a student or something? Just double checking

[@logical_evidence]

I pay $20 Australian a month.

[@alfonsoserramartinez1344]

I pay less than 2usd for a 6 person account Really is that expensive there?

[@logical_evidence]

@@alfonsoserramartinez1344 yep everything is Netflix is over $20 a month now too

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

@@JR-gh8lp and then bumped up to $22.99. I'm on the Autism Spectrum, and if I were to get ads anymore I'd actually really not be able to handle it. Also the original reason I got it was because I was doing a no wheat and no sugar diet, and for some reason youtube kept giving me Reese's ads.

[@lemondroid]

The only good deal for KZbin Premium account is the student one: 6.99pm,

[@xTheMLPGodx]

One more thing that I found out about that is completely ridiculous was a content creator who was really against putting midrolls in their videos, and youtube automatically added them to his older videos. He had to spend *days* manually removing all of them

[@CouncilofGeeks]

I’ve got another wrinkle for you: if creators allow KZbin to auto-place the mid-rolls (and there are surprisingly large channels that appear to not realize you don’t have to allow that) they can be placed more frequently than every 2 minutes. And I’ve found evidence on my own work that KZbin has added additional mid-rolls even on videos where I placed the ones I wanted manually.

[@jmurray1110]

Yeah I think KZbin has a note saying if you don’t allocate ads “appropriately” KZbin will do it for you and is why videos from long ago will get a fuck tonne of ads without the creator knowing

[@RedGreen-Blue]

I wonder if they have ads on my videos. I'm a super small channel. If you can watch just one video and there are ads on it, can you tell me in the comments section.

[@Wargthorne102]

I'm so sick of the constant ads on everything. I've even considered leaving the platform before bc now some of my favorite creators are borderline impossible to watch (looking at you JonTron, Game Grumps, Markiplier, GMM). I really hate when there are ads that ramp up the volume to a thousand on a quiet video (especially the horror movie ones in the middle of the night) or the random raunchy ads on the home page. Like I've straight up seen porn advertised as AI generators on here repeatedly. Overall the worst offenders to me are the short (less than 15 min) videos with 2 2-3 minute long unskippable ads at the beginning, 2-4 more in the middle (usually full music videos that are like 5 minutes long each), a sponsor ad by the creator that you CAN'T skip/takes up majority of video time, and then another 2-3 unskippable ads after the video is done.

[@TheNameIsFa11]

It’s happened on Spotify too. During 2021 I counted *seven* 10-30 second ads in a row before my next song played. I didn’t know that could even be feasible 😂

[@biguattipoptropica]

When COVID lockdowns first began and new KZbin videos slowed to a trickle, the ads were crazy. Dan Olson parodied them in his “contrapeneurs” video but on certain days ads were apparently so cheap there would be full scam movie ads (skippable, thankfully) at 90 minutes to two hours long. One day I saw a 3:39 unskippable ad and I gave up on KZbin and watched Netflix the rest of the day.

[@reflectingPastChoices]

@@biguattipoptropica I saw a screenshot of a 4h ad once. (Or was it 40? It might have been 40). They're skippable of course but the target audience is toddlers who won't skip anything.

[@ian2183]

Nagh, been using a cracked spotify since like 2-3 years. No ads and i don't pay.

[@AutoCannonSaysHi]

Spotify is aggravatingly bad with ads.

[@catburglar7116]

​@@reflectingPastChoicesone time I got an ad that was the entire first Lego movie! I thought it was actually kind of cool, I ended up watching some of it

[@missdenisebee]

I started paying for YT Premium a couple years ago, when I mostly used YT for asmr content…because there’s nothing quite like FINALLY feeling like you’re falling asleep, then having your ears violently assaulted by a DoorDash ad.

[@solgaleo3533]

Or turning the volume up to blast some awesome music and getting blasted by a doordash ad

[@joyhappiness]

good goy. pay for premium and take it!

[@toolbaggers]

You know a KZbinr vid about ads is crap when they can't even mention there are ways to not see any. AD BLOCKING extensions!! Block ads and support creators directly with memberships, donations etc.

[@neru1584]

​@@toolbaggersyeah that's the thing, KZbin is literally trying to like block users of ad extensions from even watching videos. So as if they aren't greedy enough they will try everything in your power to make you watch those ads lol

[@AikiraBeats]

It feels like I’m watching more ads than I am watching the actual creator. I tend to watch video essays on my favorite Tv shows. Every ten minutes I’m watching double ad features, and this has been increasing for a while.

[@stefanmadethen5359]

dont get me started on a midroll every 90 beginning seconds of a video

[@mohammadn5591]

If KZbin continues adding more ads, people will naturally leave, and then KZbin will be like: What have we done wrong?

[@dollzo]

Get an adblocker

[@RobinNicoagain]

I remember few years ago how aggressively youtube attacked creators who ran videos meant for kids (or content AI thinks are for kids) by removing the ads. It feels so laughable nowadays. Whenever me and my little girl are watching sign language videos online meant for children, we get bombarded with ads and especially improper ads for children. "Want to protect your kids? Buy premium!! "

[@Parzival1709]

One thing I'd like to add to the quality of ads. Recently I've gotten thousands of erotically implied ads whether it be for a dating site to "meet older women" or some furry asmr mobile game. The problem I have with these kinds of ads is 1. that they are scams just like the other ads and 2. KZbin is still largely a kids' platform. Are these sexually hinting ads being served to 10-year-old kids? If I had a kid, I wouldn't want them to see a full cleavage on a scam dating site ad on KZbin. Even though the economical state of the world is not optimal at the moment, we have to hold KZbin responsible for these things.

[@daanstrik4293]

KZbin needs to decide if it wants to be kid friendly or not. You can’t demonitise people for swearing and then show softcore porn & gambling on those very same video’s. I would prefer if they kept the kid stuff to youtube kids, but consistency with its own rules would be more important

[@pozhiloy_d-class5192]

As a furry, we have NOTHING to do with this. These ads are usually just ragebait so weirded out users would click on the ad.

[@Jinnyfir]

I remember when Planned Parenthood was doing ads. I was on mobile and on a retro cartoon kick and some videos were categorized as a TYKids video, so it paused while in the mini player mode. Here's the gross part: It was an "educational" ad about the pull out method and within the first 5 seconds they had a graphic depiction of lady bits and male bits and "release". You can find the full video on their channel, too. Educational or not, I was shocked. That kind of content should never be placed in an ad, especially on stuff for kids.

[@Gliese710_]

Yep. I get ads about ai porn while I’m scrolling shorts at school. Even the STUDENT accounts on our school laptops get ads like that.

[@silliest-astro]

i got those kinds of ads when i was 11. it's gross.

[@hhhhgaming458]

i love how youtube puts tons of ads on non-monetized content, not to mention that the ads have no relation to what you watch whatsoever even though they are "customized just for you"

[@pinobluevogel6458]

KZbin has the most irrelevant ads, its honestly worse than TV ads. (even though I haven't seen those in over 15 years, so it might be worse now)

[@michellelehky2374]

Facts. I have yet to see an ad for something I'd ever buy.

[@madlad635]

I keep getting Spanish ads even though don't know Spanish

[@pinobluevogel6458]

@@madlad635 Por favor, vamos a la playa. Dineros .. cervecas! No seriously, this is rather weird, might have to do something with your location being wrong.

[@Htw6048]

@@madlad635 personalised ads gone wrong

[@frag2]

I've probably lost over 3k to the ypp wait time, I completely agree that a piggy bank system needs to be implemented for new creators.

[@bagel1]

FRAG

[@frag2]

​@@bagel1 WSG BAGEL WHERE YOU BEEN

[@BrightElk]

I'm kind of angry recently because we got a horror ad, while watching a strawberry shortcake video mind you, it started FROM THE BEGGINING with a jump scare at 2:00pm so no time to navigate away and scared the snot out of myself and traumatized my 2 year old. Bloody gory and very scary. But my favourite KZbinr Girl with the dogs gets her video taken down because a cat scratched her and she bled ever so slightly. Double standard much? Now my kid isn't gonna sleep for a month. Sometimes I think they do it on purpose because they are secretly hoping parents will feel forced to buy premium!

[@nazwakanau1240]

Adblock

[@samuellourenco1050]

I've got a literal porn ad showing the underside of a woman while seeing a video about programming.

[@blackqweenmars]

Fr and don’t forget about the momo thing they really need to monitor what type of ads they’re allowing on the platform too. They took down a video of me holding my cat with her not even fighting or anything.

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Nah man I'm sorry for ur 2yo that shit is traumatizing now you gotta explain movie special effects & actors 😭

[@HappyGick]

I would refrain from showing my kids anything social media just because of how predatory they are. No social media until they're 13 and understand the risks, period.

[@Seed]

Yes. I am annoyed at the monetisation system. My channel's monetisation is still broken despite being in the partner program/Monetised.. It earns literally nothing, not even one penny.

[@MichaelExcitement]

first reply

[@latesleaves6759]

@@jeliam06your grammar styl 😅

[@drorbenuliel9280]

Wow you are an old account

[@zappyapp]

you have 1 video?

[@pinobluevogel6458]

I don't see how a channel with 1 video is ever going to get monetized, but you do you.

[@jenni.mov_]

I would get the same game ad called “Royal Match”, no matter what video I watch. So I’m grateful that you’re addressing KZbin’s ad issues.

[@Draggobuttboi]

Same here, no amount of endorsements from celebrities I don't care about will make me play their lame bejeweled rip off when I can probably find a better one without microtransactions on F-droid or something.

[@Thinginator]

There were a few months where half the ads I got were for O'Reiley's Auto Parts. I got so sick of those ads that for a long time I specifically avoided shopping there, lol. Their jingle still makes me reflexively cringe...

[@daftirishmarej1827]

Royal Match should be banned

[@jenni.mov_]

@@Draggobuttboi exactly! Plus if you do decide to download and play it, you’ll still get more ads when you’re playing the game. Ads from KZbin and ads from the game. We’re constantly have to keep watching ads, that aren’t even interesting anyways

[@walnzell9328]

Advertisers: We do not want our ads appearing on videos that are offensive. KZbin: Okay. We'll suppress the creators. Creators: We don't want our videos to have these offensive scam ads. KZbin: STFU. We own you.

[@rogerwilco2]

Yes. I would really like KZbin to get rid of all the scam adds. Show me adds for dtuff I am actually interested in, relevant to the content of the video, pr for events in my region.

[@LiquidSwords66]

this is such a good KZbin channel. As someone in their 30s I had a feeling things felt off but couldn’t put my finger on it. Thank you for these videos.

[@bjarnmundurbenelius9209]

I was mindblown when you said "let me explain" at 5:58 and KZbin immediately played me an ad and I genuinely thought you had somehow managed to time that perfectly.

[@forzacat154]

Same!

[@OneRingToRuleThemAll]

This

[@GreatWhiteCityBuilder]

i really like how your thumbnails and titles compliment eachother. congrats on your much deserved success!

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thank you so much!!

[@MrSmokey247]

@@ZackarySmigel Bit of feedback on that though. Thumbnail colour scheme and graphic is suggestive. Thought the video was going to be about ads being NSFW or something like that. Good video nonetheless but does create a false expectation going in.

[@Bwalston910]

​@@MrSmokey247I think that was the point, it intrigued you into watching the video then subverted your expectations.

[@MrSmokey247]

@@Bwalston910 That's clickbait

[@Bwalston910]

@@MrSmokey247 Welcome to KZbin, enjoy your stay.

[@Mileke]

i dont use ad block cuz of you guys, legit youtubers, but i freaking hate the repeated ads, i wish i was able to dislike ads like it was in the past

[@JamesCook76131]

This is why I pay for KZbin premium, can’t stand the ads, but want to support the creators I like still.

[@elmog9101]

Guys quick hack. If you are on the online desktop version. When you click on a video from the homepage and it gives you an ad, quickly click the go back button then the go forward button and the ad will be gone.

[@munromackay8078]

this is the same thing as getting an ad blocker@@elmog9101

[@dutchsburlychest6793]

Some ads you can still manually remove but i'll literally get softcore pron and actual like phishing links as ads and i go click the three dots to click the 'stop seeing this ad' button and they REMOVED IT 💀actual cancer

[@AlannaStarcrossed]

Use ad block for your own safety, just whitelist the pages you're willing to see ads for

[@GoblinVolume]

I used to actually let ads play in full for the creators I liked because I was a marketing student interested in the monetisation, and supporting them however I could, even faking a CTR sometimes because I heard it paid more. I was broke and couldn’t pay Patreon benefits or anything, so I wanted to help. Now I’d be luckily to be able to get even remotely the same length of VIDEO that I do ads, I’ll get a 30 second ad on a seven second video posted 13 years ago, and not a cent of that goes to the creator.

[@birdmanip]

I really love it when I'm trying to watch cute bird videos with my mum and I get an un-skippable horror movie ad 🙃 It's really scummy as well because with the increase in ads they're clearly trying to push/ force everyone to get premium By the way guys I mostly use mobile so if you know about any ad blockers that work on either android or iOS feel free to share with the class

[@scpatl4now]

or use an ad blocker

[@birdmanip]

@@scpatl4now can't really get that in the app/ on mobile (or if you can pls let me know I guess) and I can't be bothered to watch stuff on desktop all the time

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

Yeah, noticing this more and more lately - I thought they had addressed that after people complained years ago. 0_o

[@birdmanip]

@@DanknDerpyGamer I guess not 😭 they're probably hoping to annoy everyone into subscribing to premium

[@A-Clear_View]

Just using that blocker they’re literally free

[@ZenobiaSE]

I relate so heavily to this. Like lord that MrBeast scam you showed for a quick second in the beginning; I have gotten it like at least 40 times while using youtube. I turn off all tracking possible so I get a lot of just weird ads, but the scam ones and the random mobile games truly drive me insane. Excellent video, hoping it will be a successful one for you just like your last one! :)

[@GaleneIanthe]

The MrBeast scam ads are especially insidious given that he regularly does charity work. The first time I saw one, I wondered if it might have actually been legit. I'm not a viewer of his channel, but the ad didn't exactly fit with what I know about how he does money give-aways, and that style of ad always sends up red flags for me. I can definitely see people getting fooled by that one.

[@dan_asd]

Yeah i get lots of weird ads because of that too, and if i were to say what i saw my comment would be auto-deleted

[@ZenobiaSE]

@@GaleneIanthe yes exactly! I also don’t watch MrBeast but aren’t like most his viewers children as well? So it’s so especially disgusting with those ads being everywhere on the platform, makes me so sad to think that these kids get fooled by a scam like that

[@Zadaplug]

IM NOT PAYING 19 DOLLARS FOR 1 MONTH 😤 but im also tired of ads, it’s a loose loose.

[@Beardqt]

It's a nice feeling for some of the audience to see a potentially very popular video creator come up so quickly, glad to be here

[@Xiporah]

KZbin has a horrible ad experience. It completely ignores all of my sensitive topic categories. Ads are tossed in the most random categories. Weight loss ads are hidden as "fun tests and silly surveys." I've had mail order bride ads from Cyprus, lots of religious ads, lots of politics, and the worst offender of all; Temu. Mobile Game ads can be really gross as well, with Mafia style games where the first seconds of the ad is a "hottie in jail", or a tower defense game with a little guy pooping on a toilet (???? Most confusing ad ever) I report and block so many ads. Sometimes I have to block an ad several times before I stop seeing it, so I am pretty sure they are paying to upload identical ads multiple times. The ads are often offensive and completely out of control. EDIT: OMG, I commented before I watched the video and sure enough, there is that tower defense game that I was talking about at 1:52. At least the one you showed wasn't the little blue haired fighter guy taking a dump.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

Consider watching youtube on a machine that allows an adblocker, instead of only on a phone. At least you get to enjoy all the content instead of it being a highly frustrating experience. Let the content creators use their own product placement and ads in the video and let google make money of their data instead. (which they are already doing and is way more profitable than any ad revenue will ever be)

[@deejayshaun]

In July about half my ads were for Temu. Ridiculous. I wasn't interested in them before, and being inundated in their ads didn't help their case.

[@Xiporah]

@@pinobluevogel6458 This is what I usually do. However when I am on mobile, I am at the mercy of the KZbin app. My husband downloaded and installed NewPipe for me, but, it never worked right. I probably need to search for another one.

[@freidrichnietzsche7851]

i have even received an ad for "childrens bathing suits" that came across as EXTREMELY suspicious and that the algorithm has no business showing me which is why i run three adblockers. im already burning my life away watching youtube im not gonna waste more of it watching text to speech chinese weight loss scam or malware ads, or actually any ad in general

[@theMyRadiowasTaken]

youtube keeps showing me really transphobic and racist ads and when i tried to tell them to stop they told me i couldnt because im underaged which means they are _knowingly showing racist and transphobic ads to children_

[@KK-xu2yj]

I cannot stress the importance of using a adblock. It's not just about "I don't want to see ads" anymore. Ad companies like google have grown too bold over their get rich free scheme. It's not about selling you a product, it's about information now. Get an adblock. Lear more on the subject. Don't let these companies make money off of you without you even agreeing to it.

[@TheDixieDerg]

The same ad over and over is better than mobile game ads, nsfw ads, or scam ads.

[@Ducreuxs]

We predominantly watch KZbin through our roku device on our tv, and we ended up getting premium due to the absolutely insane amount of ads playing during videos and the extremely inappropriate ads running on our restricted children's profile. On a 30 minute video, ads would run every 5 minutes, then drop to every 60 seconds! Many of these ads would be unskippable as well. Our breaking point was an ad for a hentai video game playing while our toddler was trying to watch Blippi. The fact that creators get demonized for silly reasons while KZbin shows sexually explicit content to my children is infuriating.

[@rogerwilco2]

Indeed. And also the ton of “get rich quick” and health scam adds.

[@ladripper47874]

If KZbin only did one change, I'd like it to be able to see titles of deletet/removed/"unavailable" Videos in playlists. I hate having a 1000 Video Song playlist and about 100 of them not being available and have no clue which ones they are so that I can replace them

[@SunsetEnvy]

Ever since KZbin started blocking adblockers I've been getting ads about desperate moms in my area on my main page 💀💀💀 like imagine if a child saw that.

[@mandythegrimadventures8964]

for me i get "gacha heat" ads. *S E R I O U S L Y.*

[@GDhatenal]

i get those ads and im a minor, like im a teen but thats still insane edit: and my account has the correct setup for

[@chezburger-i4t]

I get ads about underwear for girls (im a guy)

[@dollzo]

​@@chezburger-i4tyou tube's tryna turn you into a femboy lol

[@conorjohn490]

PSA: don't tell people who's opinion matter to you that you get ads for girls underwear or lonely MILFs. Erroneously or not, it may paint your browsing habits poorly.

[@bloxysucksatroblox]

i literally got a 30 second KZbin ad without skips😭🙏

[@2001trash]

I cannot stand ads on KZbin, I understand the need for them of course but they are so aggravating its infuriating. If there was a KZbin premium option that solely removed ads for a much smaller fee than the current KZbin premium I would happily pay for it.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

There is no need for them, you are paying with your data. They make far more with that than any ad revenue can ever generate.

[@MarcelVos]

There is in the Netherlands, and it's called Premium Lite. I have no idea why it's not available in every country.

[@wallysullivan9315]

​@@pinobluevogel6458the only reason the data is worth anything/makes money is because the ads become more likely to lead to an actual purchase the more personalized they get. Not that that makes it any less creepy, but Im pretty sure thats the main reason.

[@jonathandpg6115]

@@pinobluevogel6458they don’t sell data. they use your data for ads. that’s how your data brings revenue

[@KallTech]

Honestly at this point I don't understand the need for them. I don't think Ads actually get watched by the majority of people these days, so it's effectively targeting 1% of the population while wasting 99% of other people's time, money and wear and tear on your devices. This may seem insignificant but in the long run advertisements cause machines to perform more tasks and in return, cost all of humanity more money and materials. It's a cancer to society.

[@datboi6415]

5.2k views, 2.6k likes, 651 comments. What a ratio, what a channel. Thanks for the engaging content. Exactly what youtube connoisseurs been looking for

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thanks so much for the kind words! That's the goal. I love making this as much as a conversation as possible!

[@TheOriginalDuckley]

@@ZackarySmigelhave you happened to notice a discrepancy in the audio volumes in the ads as well? Sometimes I have to turn my volume so high just to hear something in a video and right after I turn up the volume an ad will play and it’s extremely loud. Much louder than the actual video on full volume. It’s super annoying. Just wondering if was just me lol.

[@chiefnewo]

@@TheOriginalDuckley It's not just you and it's not just KZbin, we've been experiencing that one since the dawn of ads on television. Nothing like watching a nice quiet movie and then getting blasted by ads because you didn't manage to lower the volume in time for the ad break!

[@uberlord983]

I think the worst of the worst part about KZbin's ad situation is that its basically holding the content creators hostage. Because they know damn well that if they have to revise their ad situation, they aren't taking shit for damage, the creators on their platform are.

[@wkt2506]

The ads are providing revenue more for KZbin itself than creators Its impossible for creators to go ad free now - thats been that way for a while. But now the volume has increased considerably 🤦

[@L4JP]

Yes, the number of ads increased dramatically awhile back (about a year ago maybe). Most frustrating was how many showed up while watching KZbin on Roku, trying to relax together with my hubby watching our favorite creators during meals. We ended up reluctantly joining Premium, which felt like giving in to coercion - KZbin seemed (to us) to be intentionally driving people crazy with ads in order to get more Premium subscribers. [Note that we are not part of that US statistics - we live in Japan.]

[@benjaminsmith3645]

they definitely increased ads on things like consoles and smart TV. i don’t like watching youtube on my tv anymore

[@honza970]

​@@benjaminsmith3645On tv, I get 2 ads every two minutes. It's unwatchable.

[@dimesonhiseyes9134]

Ok KZbin on Roku is something else entirely. I've legit had ads interupt videos every 60 seconds. That's not even counting the before and after ads. However when I watch KZbin on my other Roku TV I get half the ads at most.

[@ERRandDEL]

I'm on a Roku as well and agree it's beyond excessive

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

@@benjaminsmith3645 The KZbin app on Xbox One is horrendous now. Adverts cutting in mid-syllable with no warning and sometimes the video doesn't even come back afterwards, just lags out or buffers forever.

[@johanvandersandt8904]

The two worst things that has ever hit KZbin was the algorithm and ads.

[@gandalf_thegrey]

You dont understand IT when you think "the algorithm" is 1. something they added on top of the original plattform 2. and wasnt here since literal day 1. 3. isnt a fundamental bulding block for a video website that suggest videos to users And ads arent really the problem, the amount and the consistency in which they increase them is. Ads are the reason i use this plattform for close to 15 years - and not 2. Because you go broke when you dont make any money. If you go broke your service goes offline.

[@launchbase4944]

you don't like the algorithm?

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

​@@gandalf_thegreytypical um ackshually nerd

[@ProteinFromTheSea]

"the algorithm"? brother, no matter fucking what they're doing, if you're getting shown videos, it's an algorithm.

[@it_is_charisma]

You made an interesting point I hadn't thought about before, specifically about how some creators may save their best ideas for when they are monetized rather than use them to get monetized. I think it's a strange dilemma that might be the bottleneck for a lot of aspiring channels and it's something I think has never been discussed before!

[@anomaloustapes]

Great point indeed. Dealing with this dilemma sucks.

[@calamorta]

I had thought about it before as a very active user. Back then it was uncommon to see smaller channels blowing up with one random video, and it felt like the algorithm wasn't a fan of showing old videos of creators who posted very often. Now it's common to see small channels with one video far surpassing its subs count and most importantly, the algorithm will recommend you old videos of a creator (and a bit too much imo, you can't watch a creator now without getting their whole library recommended). But I honestly had no idea creators didn't make any money from their views before becoming partners. Still, I'd still suggest creators to release their best job because 1) imagine if someone does it first and 2) it will bring exposure and speed up the partner process, not to mention that the algorithm will start to recommend your older videos. At least as I see it, if you're not a one hit wonder, releasing your best ideas soon might be a better approach.

[@KingNooblit]

I am literally sitting 1200 hours away from monetization or 200 away from members, needing the editing help to get some of my best ideas out, but can't afford the time or money until I get monitized to get those videos finished. It's crazy sitting in this spot where I'm so close yet so far cause of these exact restrictions.

[@Electrostarboi207]

I watch KZbin on my phone and bellow the video title and comment, theres an advert template under it and its framed like a notmal video but whenever you accidentally tap on it, it sends you to their advertised website. I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally tapped on it

[@DiamondMaster115]

As a small creator under monetization requirements, I find it SUPER annoying that KZbin is putting ads on my videos and are getting away with it scotch free, without paying me a dime. I know that they can do that since its their program, but it sucks regardless...

[@krakengaming3420]

I mean tbf you do only get a few hundred views per video so you’d get like maybe a dollar per. It wouldn’t be much

[@QueerCatEssays]

Hit the ball out of the park twice in a row. Obviously the content is spot on, but more than that, you present it in such a fun and genuine way. Whatever you make next, I can't wait to see it!!

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thank you so much! You are very kind. More on the way soon!

[@CZsWorld]

I would much rather pay $13/mo to get all channels ad free, then pay $5 a month for a single channel. I'm subbed about 400 channels and much of my viewing comes from channels that I am not subscribed to. Premium views also contribute to a larger percentage of my revenue than the percentage of my viewership. So as a creator I make more from people who are subscribed to premium, per capita.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

I would rather pay for a vpn, connect to à server in a country where I won't have ad, for the same price as KZbin prenium, and usable for as many account as I want. But I'm not a youtuber. I've a normal job. So I do what's better for me. Also, there's many shady, borderline fraudulent advertisements on KZbin, but they de demonetise people because they don't like certain opinions or facts. It's very shady. So I don't feel guilty to use the means I need to get around the system. Most youtuber have parteon anyway, so at least the money goes directly to them when I choose to pay.

[@Raffaele222]

You are dumb.

[@ShadowOfThePit]

Very interesting insight!

[@Reg_The_Galah]

I agree, ever since I got premium it’s been way better experience. It’s so quiet and peaceful. Though if they ever change premium to start letting ads through I’m going to leave KZbin for good.

[@kavonhaon]

This has been a pretty big issue, especially since KZbin made it so TV users see like 5-6 ads (even though they are short, that's beside the point) and they are annoyingly not allowed to be skipped. When it comes to scam ads (mentioned at 1:09), it is possible to report it to Google by clicking the 3 dots (or info) button on the ad then reporting it. Everyone reading this comment should also check out the Google Ad Center located in the Privacy section of the Google Account settings page. Hope this helped, remember to stay safe! ❤

[@floof_hair3857]

I used to like listening to video essays while doing "boring" tasks (e.g. cleaning, repetitive lab work) on KZbin, but the ads every 10 minutes make it so inconvenient that I've largely switched over to Apple Podcasts. I come back to KZbin at the beginning/ end of every month since that's when most of my favourite creators post, but otherwise I don't use KZbin. I get four categories of ads: -Very loud/ annoying mobile game ads -Beauty/ skincare -Crypto and stock investment (probably thanks to binge watching a lot of Coffezilla's stuff recently) -Very specific local ads in my second language (I assume that Google is picking up on my location data, which is weird considering I've disabled a lot the ad tracking stuff).

[@mrkrabs4743]

They need to fix their problem of inappropriate ads.

[@3imrontom1415]

Yes bro,their moderation look sucks than roblox moderation.

[@dylanatorification]

Something that I feel like people don't talk about enough is the inherently cannibalistic nature of advertising. Especially advertising of this level. I've basically come to the point where if I see a product through a youtube pre-roll ad, I legitimately feel less inclined to buy that ptoduct. It's equivalent of walking down the street, minding your own business, then out of nowhere, some random person comes up to you and starts shoving a brochure in your face going "lookie lookie! Isn't cool? You should give me money!"

[@brandonatherton]

At this point, it pretty much feels like if a company needs to advertise their product, it's garbage or a scam. If I need something, I'm just gonna compare options and reviews (which can be sketchy in itself anymore, unfortunately). Just bought a new vacuum a few months ago, but can't tell you the last time I even saw an ad for one. I just went off of reviews and my needs. vOv

[@vogeline_]

​@@brandonatherton It's very rare for people to click on a product after they see an ad. Companies know that. So they take a different approach that has to do with human psychology. When you're at the store and you have to pick between 2 items you are much more likely to buy said item from a brand that's familiar(you heard their name in ads) than from a brand you never heard of. Although I feel like this trick is used a lot more in TV since you can't have personalized ads there.

[@cherrymountains72]

I once thought the same but now I’ve come to the realisation that even if you hate a certain brand or product, you *will* think about it if you’re ever in need of something related to that brand or product and that is what’s advertising is all about. Don’t underestimate the power of repetition and how it affects the population at large. We are all trained from a young age to prefer certain things and brands. If you want to know more about how this came about and how it works, read Edward Bernay’s book “Propaganda”.

[@KingOskar4]

You feel the same, do you? 😟 The Lookie Lookie part... I get advertisements for mobile games, and while I am a mobile game researcher since 2015, heck, even I pay Microtransactions for sake of "research", I don't need to see Royal Match a thousand times when I already investigated it and found out "it is the same game as candy crush, but prettier graphically!". I already investigated 50 mobile games out of... 10,000 and let me tell you that Lords Mobile, and Evony: The King's Return are just ... The most predatory Money Farms I have ever seen, pretty, but predatory 😮‍💨

[@schwambibambi6492]

I agree!!! Stuff I see ads for immediately lose their credibility to me. Not that I have ever bought something from an ad, but now I actively avoid it

[@IzuAurora]

I exclusively watch youtube on iphone/ipad with a browser installed that has major security covers and adblocks and all that. I can't watch youtube on my tv bc then i have to watch the 4 20 second ads before, in the midlle and after a video. The ad problem is so promenant i'm no longer enjoying the platform at all unless i can use an adblocker. I know what it used to be, I've been on youtube for like 12 years or longer but it is crazy how much everything has changed. The platform is so anti-viewer and anti-creator that it's gonna be really interesting to see what happens in the next few years. It's ridiculous at this point but honestly, if adblocks stop working, i'm no longer watching anything. Watching stuff with ads is so intrucive and tedious and doesn't feel fun or positive at all. I can just hear my blood boiling in my ears after clicking off an add for the seventh time in 10 minutes.

[@DragonBallG69]

Every time I get an ad, it comes with an additional one. One is always skippable after 5 seconds if the combined runtime of the two ads exceeds 20 seconds. It’s always at the very start of the video, and at least 2 more pairs of ads will play before the video is over. It’s like this for every single video I watch. KZbins plan is to bombard us with so much shit that we are forced to suffer or buy their ridiculously overpriced monthly subscription to remove the ads.

[@SarahSnow99]

I have a friend who's an indie musician. One of her music videos blew up and got 500k views in a week, but she wasn't signed up for the ad program and so she didn't make any money off of it... It sucks but hopefully she'll get another hit and get her deserved revenue. It definitely sucks that it's so difficult and confusing for creators to monetize their accounts and make more of a living off of the platform

[@mx.winterwolf]

What song/video is it called?

[@scpatl4now]

I've noticed that some channels reupload stuff like 6 months later. I wonder if that is why

[@whorlingwisteria]

would you mind sharing the song?

[@ArcNeoMasato]

I know what drives me nuts is how ads work on TV apps now. The little yellow "must watch this much" timer will show up at MUCH higher times than I've ever seen on my phone/tablet/computer, 10 seconds max vs 45 seconds some times. And not only that, I've had COUNTLESS times where an ad ends on the moment the skip button becomes active, and it starts a new ad with yet ANOTHER count down before I can skip.

[@sailorenthusiast]

Something I noticed since I watch KZbin on multiple devices is that there tends to be a lot more ads all grouped together when watching on TV or gaming consoles like the Switch. I was trying to watch a video my brother made on the TV, but it kept getting interrupted by ad segments that would span 5 ads each. If I pause the video for any reason, as soon as I unpause the video, another long ad segment will play. It’s ridiculous. It feels like KZbin is only bearable to watch on mobile and PC. Especially given it’s easier to find ways to block ads on those devices.

[@Kpracn0va]

1:51 So happy you’re talking about this. I hope you don’t mind me ranting, but I’ve gotten so many repetitive, unskippable ads of ‘new look glasses’ or ‘flex foam pads’ despite me needing neither. KZbin used to let us skip ads and ask to not have it shown to us again, but now I don’t have the liberty to do that anymore (it’s not giving me any options except ‘report ad’ which I don’t want to do since, you know, showing pads ain’t a good reason to report).

[@holymeto9981]

The report is going nowhere, I bet.

[@thesagapov]

I’ve been watching YT since 2007: KZbin has always been quietly ramping up the ads from my perspective. From the small banners at the bottom of the video, to the one skippable ad, to the sometimes unskippable ad, to the added midrolls, to putting ads on videos from creators who aren’t monetized, to the two ads in a row, and, in the last month, having to manually skip both ads. It has felt especially different since the adpocalypse and since the rise of AI (and, as a result, scam ads) in 2023. Honestly though, this is good for me. I want to cut back on my YT usage (as a consumer, not as a content creator) and this is the perfect catalyst for that.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

By that logic, I should wish for an ad, everytime I want to make a comment on a video.

[@BlackOreoCookie]

Or back when you could see ads coming in advance by the yellow bar in the timeline 😭

[@ODSTGeneralYT]

Don't forget the infomercial multi-hour ads that seem to pop up late at night sometimes. I assume they do this when they expect people fell asleep watching youtube and will not skip the ad.

[@MatthewCornish]

@@ODSTGeneralYTdude yes why aren’t more people up in arms over those?! I’m a “listen as I go to sleep” user and it’s a real pain when you wake up realising you’re an hour in to AN ADVERT like what gives?!

[@ODSTGeneralYT]

@@MatthewCornish Probably because they forget to after they got to sleep and wake back up.

[@Atais_UKBM]

I find it way more annoying that when I’m talking about something with a friend I go on KZbin a few days later to find a video exactly about that topic without ever having searched it, it’s becoming more frequent and it’s scary

[@McIntyreStudios]

That has actually been happening to me too.

[@kuilu]

I was speaking aloud to a friend when we were watching music videos "Man i wish these videos had subtitles of the lyrics on so i could read the meaning (Foreign language songs for example.) Instantly, after next video, every single video had lyrics pasted on them.. Holy fuck that was creepy.

[@Doggo_is_sus]

I get that they need ad money to keep servers. But they literally have no reason to bombard me with 100 useless ads for some ivory kingdom.

[@TradingFeline]

I’ve been using the “report ad” method to skip ads, but some ads don’t allow that for some reason and I noticed it’s usually on big channels like talk shows or music videos. They also changed the reporting feature to its more cumbersome and takes more time.

[@Maggie66112]

FR i can't use that technique anymore. It even worse

[@travis7638]

Yeah blocking ads isn’t as fast as before, you have to go through that terrible “My Ad Center” menu and it feels like they purposely made it obtuse so that it takes more than 5 seconds to navigate, or slower depending on your internet connection.

[@skeletonbeats6483]

I’ve found that clicking on shorts momentarily and clicking off will skip ads

[@Secretgeek2012]

I used to do the same but it literally didn't change a single thing. Worse, it continues to play the advert to the end/skip even when i reported it!

[@CalicoCrow]

The new ad center reporting is so annoying for me on mobile! Sometimes I'd go into that menu and I'd have to completely close the yt app and then go back in because I literally could not leave the ad menu since the back button gets weirdly merged in with the top portion and stops responding

[@Stromoto]

From what you've said in this video and your previous one, I think it kinda makes a lot more sense now. KZbin recommends smaller channels so that if the one video they made goes viral when they're not monetized, they can take all 100% of the ad revenue while the creator loses it all. Just a hunch not saying its true.

[@TAREEBITHETERRIBLE]

*Zackary Smigel, a man who fights for equality and appropriate justice.*

[@the_expidition427]

Equity not so much equality. It fair to have someone get paid instead of everyone being paid equally zero

[@ogonbio8145]

Am I witnessing a Astro turf

[@panosmosproductions3230]

❤

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

he kinda reminds me of soyjak 😅

[@40088922]

I think I wouldn't mind the barrage of ads quite as much if all of them were at least skippable. some are over a minute long and don't give the option to skip, heck, there those times with 2 ads in a row and NEITHER can be skipped

[@ethianhuynh4901]

I hate ads before videos so much that I will repeatedly close and open the video until the ads disappear

[@Matt-jc2ml]

Just use adblock

[@ethianhuynh4901]

@@Matt-jc2ml i have an adblocker on my pc but when i’m on mobile i use the app

[@Matt-jc2ml]

@@ethianhuynh4901 you can use the browser for adblock. Lots of mobile browsers have adblock. Theres even an official browser from adblock

[@aiodensghost8645]

​@@ethianhuynh4901ReVanced

[@aiodensghost8645]

​@@ethianhuynh4901revance on Android (*Chefs kiss)

[@Ghostly_scarf]

You already didn’t have to prove it, cause we’ve all already experience this first hand but this is honestly a good insight and a good solution to this problem