@@ManMan-fk3cj exactly the cymbals need to be 18" crispy loud ear busting crashes
@ManMan-fk3cj4 жыл бұрын
@@Chain_Star_Productions no he needs a China
@eyeless98824 жыл бұрын
@@ManMan-fk3cj he has a custom stack and that’s just as good
@AustinAffleck4 жыл бұрын
There's just something about hearing deathcore on a kit that's tuned for tight, snappy jazz stuff.... Time to start a jazzcore band
@armourofcontempt4 жыл бұрын
Naked City. The Ultimate Jazzcore.
@AndyWarren4 жыл бұрын
Candiria covered that 2 decades ago
@albenmurcia47164 жыл бұрын
@@armourofcontempt was gonna say mr bungle but john zorn helped produce their albums (or at least their self titled) so it has a lot of his influence on it. Naked city is great
@86TDC4 жыл бұрын
A return to the early 2010s?
@vincentforest40744 жыл бұрын
That snare on City Of Evil Edit: Just before someone says it, I know a7x isn't deathcore, I was just pointing out an example.
@punkademic3 жыл бұрын
I love how you say "get ready to cringe" to at least a thousand people who would commit felonies in order get you as the drummer in their bands lol
@kaylons3 жыл бұрын
He's not wrong. I've found more comments about his kit sound than pedal technique.
@collinblatchford3 жыл бұрын
What would you know Misfit Joking
@AS-vq3ep3 жыл бұрын
smashed that 666th like B)
@Drescodeleo3 жыл бұрын
I know I would
@everest882 жыл бұрын
@ Even so, as simple as they may be... Fitment between the melody and the percussion is what makes something sound good. He definitely has skill, and is a really good drummer into the genre he fits in. My opinion.
@havinfunfallin94584 жыл бұрын
That kid taught you a gravity blast as your first blast beat. 1.That kid is a sadist 2.That’s like starting on expert mode.
@wolfumz4 жыл бұрын
You know you have to come out strong to impress your drum teacher
@HonkeyKongLive4 жыл бұрын
He also taught him wrong from the looks of things lol. The rim is the fulcrum you're not supposed to strike it as a hit itself.
@ivansnegireff91384 жыл бұрын
my brother kid loves song
@VanTastik4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfumz hahahaha yes 👏 !!!
@adrianmorales9224 жыл бұрын
💯
@Logstudent19882 жыл бұрын
I'm here to tell you that we (metal heads) consider jazz to be THE pinnacle of music difficulty no matter how hard we practice we always look up and FEAR jazz musicians. and I'm being completely honest. beautiful playing and extreme precise timing. sharp as a razor.. best of luck.
@jynxx_mynxx2 жыл бұрын
truth
@Heatwave90002 жыл бұрын
Jazz is lame, it makes me fall asleep.
@TimberWulfIsHere2 жыл бұрын
@@Heatwave9000 uhh, maybe that's what people who listen to jazz want?
@semicirclebandvidz2 жыл бұрын
@@Heatwave9000 I fall asleep to john coltrane's Accention album ngl
@ImSick02 жыл бұрын
All metal heads? Speak for yourself.. Classical is much harder than jazz.
@datllamadoh63434 жыл бұрын
I like how he's still using like high expression jazz cymbals for metal and it still sounds good
@staaails4 жыл бұрын
yeah, i think this definately give a new vibe to metal stuff
@professoralexburnerofstone4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t really consider those jazz cymbals with the exception of the main ride. Matt Garstka uses similar cymbals and does primarily prog metal.
@professoralexburnerofstone4 жыл бұрын
Especially the trash crash and the stack lol
@diegosillas10344 жыл бұрын
@@professoralexburnerofstone yea, thinner byzance cymbals don't last heavy hitting, but they sound soooo good
@SpiralstaticXX4 жыл бұрын
@@diegosillas1034 umm... the thinner the cymbal, the more equipped it is to handle being bashed on. Heavy cymbals don’t last beatings man. Where did you learn this?
@pacificdrumma4 жыл бұрын
Further proof that musicianship is not bound by genre
@cowskull15174 жыл бұрын
@Funt Case Your name says it all but slightly reversed
@jubankta16274 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment my man!!
@suryapanditi31614 жыл бұрын
@Funt Case Bro maybe he didn’t know if that’s a fake name or if you were really Mr. Case
@svenplysled16774 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is
@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze4 жыл бұрын
Metal is actually where the most technically proficient musicians in the world go to cut loose. Just look at Alex rudinger with Intronaut or paul Seidel with the ocean
@tommystratpaul2 жыл бұрын
As a metalhead and guitar player… we all still hold jazz as the highest level of musicianship, and nothing messes with our confidence more than a jazz musician showing up 😂🤘
@chrisgoblin4857 Жыл бұрын
I'm a metal guitarist and I have had Jazz players say the same thing to me. They found it crazy that I memorised a full set including solos etc as they all just sight read from notation. Also seen the blood run out of some of my jazz playing friends faces when they see the length of time and speed I can tremolo pick. Different music, different skills.
@jubnx2781 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgoblin4857 that’s totally right, different music, different skills.
@nicolasgabet4343 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgoblin4857 Where have you seen jazzmen sight-reading (lol) ? It is all about improvisation, being able to use your instrument to express any idea you may have, in any situation. It is not just "another style, another skill" + jazz (and blues) is the real source of all rock, including metal, therefore all this music is a permanent insult to jazz + metalheads can't fucking swing + fuck 'em all
@chrisgoblin4857 Жыл бұрын
@@nicolasgabet4343 Where? Professional session players. They don't practice as a band at all. Half of the time they don't even know the people they're playing with. Turn up at a corporate event or wedding and then play, get paid and say goodbye.
@nicolasgabet4343 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgoblin4857 Yes, but when they play live they aren't sight-reading as in how a classical player would. They just know the music. More than that, most of today's "jazz" isn't jazz anymore, just music inspired by jazz.
@Darylrb19834 жыл бұрын
The "jazz" tuning of the toms brings out another element. I cant explain it
@chickenbath4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of meshuggah toms especially from the "Nothing" album
@legionact4 жыл бұрын
bongos
@sultankosmitov62934 жыл бұрын
For me it starts to sound like grind. And I consider it as a good thing.
@EnderGaming504 жыл бұрын
@Caleb Eusebio *djazz
@VodkaSelekta4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking I actually like the sound of his kit for Metal. It's unusual, but good unusual. Especially the snare.
@welshmouse3 жыл бұрын
Jazz drummer attempts DeathCore on THE MOST JAZZ KIT YOU'VE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE
@ethfun3 жыл бұрын
i legit lost it to this
@EnclaviousFiraga3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the set wasn't the right type
@evangeloskostakis80713 жыл бұрын
lmao
@brown_salazar3 жыл бұрын
same type of drum kit kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqqvaoKErJp-pNE
@henry_g_s3 жыл бұрын
@@brown_salazar whaddaya mean? Different type of heads, and completely different cymbals. Bright and quick cymbals vs dry and dark cymbals
@lakejizzio77773 жыл бұрын
I swear jazz musicians are literal gods at this point.
@lithominium99552 жыл бұрын
theres a reason most music degrees are jazz
@ogloc63082 жыл бұрын
thats cringe bro
@DrMoe.Lester2 жыл бұрын
Yea but they're weird people
@userdeleted47232 жыл бұрын
@@DrMoe.Lester I agree uni jazz itself is full of socially awkward students, jazz clubs are where it’s at for meeting some cool people and even networking if chill enough
@stigmurder992 жыл бұрын
@@userdeleted4723 read the name of the person calling people weird. Dude should be on a list. This drummers skills are phenomenal btw.
@highpsi74633 жыл бұрын
More jazz snares in metal pls. Reminds of early korns snare. Tight and snappy
@tracermunk2 жыл бұрын
YES! That's EXACTLY what I was thinking as I listened to the track. So good.
@jacobsherry9412 жыл бұрын
That and Mike Portnoy's snare in A Change of Seasons
@thereallabow54912 жыл бұрын
Also reminds me of Joey Jordison’s snare on the first slipknot album
@RyoCanCan2 жыл бұрын
Entheos has really cranked snares.
@aaronszyszkoofficial47762 жыл бұрын
@@thereallabow5491 I hear it now. He was originally a jazz drummer as well lol
@headfog7344 жыл бұрын
6:27 ultimate death jazz chops unlocked.
@shawnmarko71313 жыл бұрын
Yes! total highlight
@mikaylaschawel18073 жыл бұрын
Truth!!
@FTheUTTP3 жыл бұрын
Noice
@theindoctrinated69364 жыл бұрын
You killed it, but it sounds HILARIOUS on that kit
@lolToasty4 жыл бұрын
i honestly think it sounds much better on this kit than on the super over-processed original recording
@luissilva52744 жыл бұрын
Yeah same ahah
@basildog0074 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the drums on the two first Korn albums, with the piccolo snare...
@AbtinX4 жыл бұрын
This is like The Haunted Made me Do it, also a jazz drummer lol.
@jaythecanuck49054 жыл бұрын
Ya.. those toms are pretty small for Metal.. Almost sounds like a childs drum set with the heavy background music.. lol! Still sounded good.. but definitely not the "Typical" deep heavy drum tone you hear on Metal albums.. What is that.. a 14" floor tom? lol... My "small" floor tom is 16"... haha
@joe415ful14 жыл бұрын
It's a jazz drummer, those guys can play anything by nature.
@Carlosconga3 жыл бұрын
@Hudson Donald lol you wish.
@monroebarzol61523 жыл бұрын
@Hudson Donald More like the beatles couldn't play jazz if their lives depended on it...
@monroebarzol61523 жыл бұрын
@Hudson Donald I play reggaeton
@chromaticfrog74073 жыл бұрын
who hurt you, donald?
@datboi35773 жыл бұрын
@Hudson Donald LMAOO
@Aerial21083 жыл бұрын
From a metal drummer, that fill at 4:06 was consistent and satisfying well done
@skrounst4 жыл бұрын
Yo, the music world NEEDS more crossovers like this. It exposes people to different content, and ideas they wouldnt naturally encounter. As a BIG metal/ hardcore fan, and fellow drummer I never would have had a ZackGrooves video in my recommended algorithm. Now; I binged about 10 of your videos, am a subscriber to your channel, and plan on practicing some Jazz to broaden my repertoire. Thank you for this!
@sugadelicsavagesoul86234 жыл бұрын
Yo man. Listen to some Elvin Jones or some Billy Cobham. Those legendary jazz kats rocked harder than most rock groups. Check out some of their stuff! They're insane.
@spookiedukey4 жыл бұрын
k
@erickzuniga31134 жыл бұрын
This is so true. So many people are stuck in one genre.
@kiwiangeldust69124 жыл бұрын
@@erickzuniga3113 Is that a problem?
@kiwiangeldust69124 жыл бұрын
@@sugadelicsavagesoul8623 There are some really good rock groups tho too.
@moser75364 жыл бұрын
"This is about to suck guys" *Plays actually super respectable metal grooves*
@smradztoiek4 жыл бұрын
I would like your comment, but that would amount to 667 likes...
@kaylons4 жыл бұрын
Zack is a really amazing drummer, so I had no doubt that it would be awesome. Its moreso the beginning that made me crack up, bc that Minecraft death sound... And the confused meme. And Zack's face
@xvldark15674 жыл бұрын
The best part is that you can still hear the jazz accents on this, and it sounds fresh af
@Mummra614 жыл бұрын
Yeah his fills don't have the punch to cut through all that bass but with the drums at the forefront like that it sounds so awesome.
@LucIndustries4 жыл бұрын
Jazz metal? Death jazz? Dig it either way
@malcopro5325 Жыл бұрын
This is more proof that jazz drummers can play any genre of music. They're simply the most talented considering the main genre they play is so musically technical.
@freddied54464 жыл бұрын
1. That was not cringe, that was sick asf 2. You would make a great deathcore/djent drummer 3. Snare 👌🏼 chef kiss 👌🏼 sounds amazing. Good job man
@freddied54464 жыл бұрын
@Minecraft Platinum Fireworks yes yes the chops as well
@commandershepard93124 жыл бұрын
that snare really is crisp man
@N4DWIN4 жыл бұрын
Metal is derivative of jazz, just goes to show man, pretty f'n sick 🤘
@Smurfkilla484 жыл бұрын
Jazz Drummer attempts Death Core, sounds a lot like Silent Planet with all that finesse !
@maximeb1904 жыл бұрын
Duuuuuude. Silent Planet is the fking best!! :D
@joanbighorn97784 жыл бұрын
Alex Camarena is such a tight drummer.
@drkstrnd4 жыл бұрын
This being one of the top comments makes me happy
@samwilliamson46144 жыл бұрын
Yessir!
@LeLuizFelippe4 жыл бұрын
Silent Planet is fucking awesome, been listening to them all the time for the past weeks
@Sterlings_End4 жыл бұрын
Honestly that was better than what most core drummers could do so don't even worry about it haha
@charityhoax4 жыл бұрын
because deathcore is comically easy compared to jazz chops. nice of him to be humble about it though.
@Mystninja4 жыл бұрын
That 15 year old meth head was right.
@krioni86sa4 жыл бұрын
Sterling Peterson Drums, How?
@9-seven4 жыл бұрын
@@charityhoax Depends heavily on the band
@Sterlings_End4 жыл бұрын
@@9-seven totally. One of the more outstanding ones like Chris Turner come to mind in more of the metal/death core stuff!
@RinnovaRaine2 жыл бұрын
Cringe?! This was clean as hell dude! I think that cross-genre playing should be required in music schools. As a metal musician I am completely open to learning jazz, blues, etc. stuff. It only makes it better. Seeing you play a metal song like this with a jazz sensibility gives it a whole other dimension. Really opens it up!
@crypticutopia7228 Жыл бұрын
Same here dude. I'm mostly a rock/metal/punk/hardcore drummer but over the last year or so I've been learning a lot of jazz, funk and fusion techniques to expand my drumming vernacular and just generally broaden my horizons. It's made my playing a lot more interesting for sure.
@hellothere91674 жыл бұрын
And because metal drumming content is so rare these days, the community gathered and watched the video together. Making it his 2nd most view in a matter of 2 months
@junkyardwillie83203 жыл бұрын
Hello there!
@magemega42623 жыл бұрын
@@junkyardwillie8320 goddamn needherders....
@junkyardwillie83203 жыл бұрын
@@magemega4262 i have no clue what that means
@magemega42623 жыл бұрын
@@junkyardwillie8320 damnit I meant to say nerfherders... It's an OT starwars reference lol...
@FoodieFindings4 жыл бұрын
This guy does better at double bass in his first few days than I can after having practiced for years. SMH
@david_od3rsowas5844 жыл бұрын
I can relate
@tuckertotter76524 жыл бұрын
Its because hes a jazz drummer and you also need to grow up🤣
@gamevault45804 жыл бұрын
Last half of that was completely unnecessary my guy
@camturp21974 жыл бұрын
Foodie findings- I would imagine this guy has probably practiced double bass before
@SamuTheFrog4 жыл бұрын
It's cause Jazz drummers have hella solid techniques, jazz drumming is pretty insane sometimes man. I mean, some jazz drummers do tricks with 1 single foot that a lot o metal drummers can't even do with two. I've been a drummer for like 16 years or so now, mainly metal but jazz was always my 2nd go to. I can say from experience, metal is harder in terms of endurance/stamina, but jazz is way harder in terms of control and discipline. But if you have control and discipline, then speed and power comes easy
@koovshiki4 жыл бұрын
He says "get ready to cringe" but then proceeds to absolutely kill it
@rjones68014 жыл бұрын
For real. I'm both disappointed and extremely impressed. Literally no cringe...at all.
@houtarooreki57514 жыл бұрын
@@rjones6801 please elaborate
@rjones68014 жыл бұрын
@@houtarooreki5751 because I expected cringe. There was none to be had.
@StudioNicktendo3 жыл бұрын
I’m watching this again after a few months... AND... this is still better than most metal drummers in my local scene 😂😂
@hecs89384 жыл бұрын
"Attempts" to play death core *plays better than most death core drummers*
@sahamal_savu4 жыл бұрын
@Funt Case I'm just going to toss Emmure out there, they're awful.
@popcorn91554 жыл бұрын
@@sahamal_savu I wouldn't really consider Emmure deathcore look up The Hopewell Furnace that's deathcore
@MrKo-jl3nw4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@eyeless98824 жыл бұрын
He’s definitely good but like that’s a funny joke
@JordanRainey4 жыл бұрын
I feel like knowing Jazz just makes everything else easier
@nickbueno_4 жыл бұрын
no one: zack: *plays chops over deathcore riff*
@blinkasto1824 жыл бұрын
C H O P S
@AlecWindmiller4 жыл бұрын
uh chops?
@Talkboxeffectistrash4 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be no one, that would be mathcore, bands like the number twelve looks like you and lye by mistake and such
@AlecWindmiller4 жыл бұрын
I hope you know that “chops” mean musical skill, not a form of drumming.
@Talkboxeffectistrash4 жыл бұрын
@@AlecWindmiller He meant jazz chops obv
@alexanderjhannon4 жыл бұрын
I THINK WE’RE READY FOR THE BLEED COVER
@Granalfsson4 жыл бұрын
Will we ever be ready for that? Or clockworks?
@habibiehafidz4 жыл бұрын
do not look down, maybe?
@jain0nil4 жыл бұрын
@@Granalfsson it has to be bleed, i need the comparison with bill burr’s cover
@dalton-at-work4 жыл бұрын
@@Granalfsson bro NO ONE is ready for the clockworks cover
@zeusolympus16644 жыл бұрын
I think his feet will bleed by playing bleed.
@jimismacho3 жыл бұрын
I love his grooves. More interesting that average metal drummers.
@joeyuzwa8912 жыл бұрын
Check out Defeated Sanity. Their drummer, Lille Gruber, is a trained jazz drummer so his fills and grooves are fucking NUTTY
@muhammadawad96282 жыл бұрын
Oh bro if u say so u r not listening to metal,this track is not even real metal and the drums is not that good either,but the guy is doing great
@reeree4882 жыл бұрын
Defeated sanity’s Lille gruber, Archspires Spencer’s prewett , TOOL’s danny Carey, within destruction, and east west blast test
@ChaseThePinballWizard Жыл бұрын
dude the one at 3:20 is so soul enlighteningly groovy.
@migustaturtles1801 Жыл бұрын
@@joeyuzwa891 dude I saw them live about 2 weeks ago they're so good !
@Alexleight4 жыл бұрын
Your double bass syncopation is really impressive for not playing this genre
@senditkevin4 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing the term syncopation and dont know what it means. I'll Google it.
@senditkevin4 жыл бұрын
Just googled. Kinda what I thought it was.
@AngrySkipperGC4 жыл бұрын
@@senditkevin Syncopation literally means off beat. think of 4 beats - 1,2,3,4.... Now break that up into smaller versions - 1 AND 2 AND 3 AND 4 AND. and = off -beat. Syncopation = off-beat. :)
@senditkevin4 жыл бұрын
@@AngrySkipperGC thanks!
@budaroddy4 жыл бұрын
Thats what make jazz unique
@Opuskrokus4 жыл бұрын
The masculine way of shopping: - I need a double pedal - Here's one - I'll take it
@TheGoodDrEvil4 жыл бұрын
I chuckled at this longer and harder than I should've, in this day and age. I'm willing to admit that.
@KingCharlesVI4 жыл бұрын
thats so true
@AlphaLionOfLight4 жыл бұрын
That's how I shop. It saves time.
@darylvargas59404 жыл бұрын
That's the only way of doing it ..
@Dracula_sb4 жыл бұрын
Speedrun shopping
@Jaymo8604 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, deathcore/ death metal needs more jazz drummers in the industry
@AlexH47743 жыл бұрын
Lille Grüber
@mosley34853 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, genres are bullshit and knowing theory will make you a better player irrespective of genre.
@BatteryAcidEater3 жыл бұрын
@@mosley3485 stfu
@mpk66643 жыл бұрын
Most of the top metal drummers have jazz backgrounds. Aaron Stechauner, for example.
@BLkDEATHBlaDe283 жыл бұрын
Sean Reinert =DEATH
@8BitJustice2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I've just listened to too many same-y sounding deathcore and death metal drummers, but your jazzy fills are actually unbelievably refreshing in this kind of music. 10/10, you should start a metal band 😂
@darkaquatus4 жыл бұрын
I actually think that having a jazz background is a huge plus for anyone trying to learn a new genre of music.
@ryxarkhalyx4 жыл бұрын
and actually jazz is tough genre too! check out buddy rich solo drum!👍
@parat754 жыл бұрын
Yep look at Chris Adler
@darkaquatus4 жыл бұрын
@@parat75 Chris Adler doesn't have a jazz background, does he?
@parat754 жыл бұрын
@@darkaquatus I remember watching an interview of him sometime ago and it was mentioned that he either had a jazz background or just knew how to play jazz, can't remember which.
@chlum62954 жыл бұрын
yeah check our george hurley
@unlokexe4 жыл бұрын
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how good his snare sounds?
@i-killezzz-i45374 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ghfjfghjasdfasdf4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Snare
@dontfallyoumighthurtyourse46944 жыл бұрын
It’s way too ringy
@unlokexe4 жыл бұрын
@@ghfjfghjasdfasdf *INFINITE IQ*
@ghfjfghjasdfasdf4 жыл бұрын
It’s cuz I know stuff, bow down.
@isaiahmcnabb52504 жыл бұрын
Title - "Attemps.." Me - Why is he better than most if he is just attempting?
@isaiahmcnabb52504 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Feliciano would make sense
@chumchumselasticballoonhea52444 жыл бұрын
he is actually a very well-practiced drummer, he has a lot more dedication than i do. I am the 15-year-old he was talking about in the vid.
@isaiahmcnabb52504 жыл бұрын
@@chumchumselasticballoonhea5244 nice nice well you must be talented from what i heard lol
@eddiecrownshaw1994 жыл бұрын
imma go out on a limb and say he dis better than the original drummer, the way he mixed the jazz into the deathcore was impressive.
@Spenjira4 жыл бұрын
@@chumchumselasticballoonhea5244 something tells me it took him longer than an hour
@Teemaino2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays everyrhing is so highly produced and clean. Its really refreshing to hear such a snappy and raw kit. No quatizing, no post eq, just the bing bongs
@BurnTheNuance4 жыл бұрын
Dude, love this video. As a metal drummer myself I loved seeing this. Its refreshing to see someone with your CHOPS "struggle" on anything. The gravity was a neat little added bit. Bro. A few months of practice and you'd kill it. Guaranteed. I can CRUSH most core songs, but I am a fucking fish out of water playing jazz. For not playing this type of music you did great. Cheers brother!
@ZackGrooves4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for checking it out bro :’) kiss
@BurnTheNuance4 жыл бұрын
@@ZackGrooves Was my pleasure... 😘
@alexluvzfire35674 жыл бұрын
4:51 this face told me something good was gonna happen. The next few seconds take you for a ride. This was sick.
@alexluvzfire35674 жыл бұрын
Chops 6:28
@festeringcarm96014 жыл бұрын
Agreed completely, holy shit you nailed it like 90%. I've played in hardcore bands for years and still could maybe touch about 75% of this. Fuck yeah dude.
@timmyweeps2184 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player and someone who can’t play the drums, this was sick af.
@steinarst90844 жыл бұрын
As a guitarist who can do metal drumming; This right there was a masterpiece. Every metal band in the fucking world would want this.
@frnndgrm62684 жыл бұрын
As a drummer who can't play that technical, that was sick
@danielrowell91824 жыл бұрын
imagine the spin he would throw on a metal track as a jazz drummer!!!
@aaronmarchett73464 жыл бұрын
Same.. makes me wanna pick up playing the kit
@emmanuelmorales21664 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this dude is sick af! Guitar player here too, lol
@MegaYoyo9113 жыл бұрын
The irony of him learning a blast beat, is that blast beats originated in jazz music 😂🙌🏽
@magemega42623 жыл бұрын
As did the brutal constant double kick... Looking at you Billy Cobham.
@Blindashitmetalasfuck3 жыл бұрын
The thing he did in the beginning was a gravity blast. Thats not a normal blast beat. He needs to look into this shit before making a video.
@powbobs3 жыл бұрын
@@Blindashitmetalasfuck Nobody cares other than cretinous metal heads. And no one cares about metal heads.
@Blindashitmetalasfuck3 жыл бұрын
@@powbobs Isn't he supposed to be, like, a professional or something? I don't expect him to know the difference. But I do expext him to do even the slightest bit of research. And you'd be surprised how many people in the drumming community expect the people they watch to speak from a place of authority. Even if all you did was ask someone who played in a Death Metal band, OH, LIKE NIK, THE GUY WHO FUCKING ASKED HIM TO COVER THE FUCKING SONG IN THE FIRST PLACE, Or spend 30 seconds checking Wikipedia. Anything is better than saying "I guess this is a blast beat, although I could easily be full of shit, because I didn't bother to do any research". But yeah, im guessing the JAZZ DRUMMER who invented the blast beat probably cares too. Anyway, your dumb. Did you honestly think that shit would work? If your going to try to troll somebody, at least put some fucking effort into it. Jesus...
@powbobs3 жыл бұрын
@@Blindashitmetalasfuck This is such a typical metal head response. That’s not a compliment by the way.
@angelbaitgames54273 жыл бұрын
As a metal head that grew up on jazz kinda stuff; both forms appreciate the same thing, controlled chaos. Sick vid buds 🤘
@thess89pnthrs3 жыл бұрын
the snappy jazz snare lowkey sounds so good for this lol
@DruNature3 жыл бұрын
I know!! but, not even Low Key though, Lamb of God's drummers signature snare is a piccolo and remember the early 2000s, every band had this snare sound.
@milesmorra59102 жыл бұрын
@@DruNature slipknot in the early days when Joey was still in tbe band.
@devinaschenbrenner26832 жыл бұрын
Snappy snares sound good with alot of stuff honestly. I'm surprised it doesn't get used more
@aeoteroa8182 жыл бұрын
its nice and tight.
@gregtheflyingwhale3 жыл бұрын
Jazz ghost notes + metal drumming = Mario Duplantier
@xXspark365Xx3 жыл бұрын
This guy is awesome!
@HeavyRaiden3 жыл бұрын
Can you teach me how to fly?
@jeremybabin74353 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyRaiden I'd love to move slowly in the air.
@ktakk13 жыл бұрын
matt halpern 100
@hachis_4303 жыл бұрын
France represent !
@indus32703 жыл бұрын
I see you've mastered the single most important aspect of deathcore musicianship: stank face! Flare those nostrils bruh!
@Ew4ya3 жыл бұрын
if you vibe it, it's instinct
@GeorgeTsiros3 жыл бұрын
@@Ew4ya you're not playing metal until you look like suffering from chronic incontinence
@jsihavealotofplaylists3 жыл бұрын
its to smell the music better
@carsonatkinson99472 жыл бұрын
Imo one of the best and most diverse drummers in deathcore is Brandon Zackey from Enterprise Earth. Dude writes some extremely complex pieces and sounds incredible live. He’s got a pretty extensive background in drum line and even was a part of the blue devils at some point amongst many other word class drum corps groups.
@ZackGrooves2 жыл бұрын
Brandon is the homie!!!
@tim.noonan Жыл бұрын
Brandon’s a freak. Q5 are the best quad drummers in drum corps every year and it’s not close.
@guibox34 жыл бұрын
Many may dislike this type of metal but they cannot deny that you have to be unbelievably talented to play it. Kudos to you for going out of your comfort zone and nailing it as well as you did. I think you gained the respect of the members of Termina and all other metal heads.
@deathkorpsofkrieg76394 жыл бұрын
As a long time metal drummer i can very much confirm this, especially when working on double bass.
@Just_Sara4 жыл бұрын
I don't usually listen to metal and I don't play drums at all, and upon listening to this, I was sort of just stunned into silence. This genre's percussion is just built totally different than any sounds I've ever heard before, and it both looks and sounds WICKED difficult.
3 жыл бұрын
@@Just_Sara If you want to ease in to the world of Metal I cannot recommend Opeth enough. Start with their latest albums and work backwards - you'll get a journey from very melodic, ballad-like progressive rock, through progressive metal and all the way to melodic death (?) metal. If that doesn't "scare" you away, try "Black Crown Initiate" and "Ne Obliviscaris", then maybe "Lamb of God" and throw in some "Slugdge" (sic) in to the mix. Pretty varied sounds between these but drums-wise - all absolutely amazing.
@quintaviousjaquintamarion80223 жыл бұрын
Yeah I dislike metal for the most part I tried blast beating because I thought it looked easy and my feet couldn't keep up
@andryuu_20003 жыл бұрын
@@Just_Sara jazz can be just as hard
@TheRealPabloAlbelda4 жыл бұрын
The lesson here is: "Kids, don't ever ever skip leg day. Legs will carry you to most utterly heavy sixteenth triplet-y of places" Very nice Zack, luv u
@vincent-ow8ss4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have been play double bass for like almost 5 months and I still can’t go as fast or as clean as he did in a day
@WayoftheFerret4 жыл бұрын
fuckin same
@TheJzai4 жыл бұрын
Secret title: Jazz drummer nails death core in a matter of hours 😂
@raccoon.guitar4 жыл бұрын
Jazz drummers are in a way better position when it comes to learning another genres.
@dersaegefisch4 жыл бұрын
Already beeing a good / very good drummer definetly helps. But how fast he got the double bass down was still very impressive.
@lowenbad2 жыл бұрын
I REALLY like your approach to this style. Like… a lot. It kicked massive amounts of ass. Your jazz background gave you so much advantage in the pocket department. Fuck yeah, bro. 🤘
@telle-sensei3 жыл бұрын
It's not the first time I've heard jazz drumming in metal but everytime I heard it, it's always damn refreshing.
@pollosasadosalcarbon3 жыл бұрын
im a jazzist and the first time i listened to metal i thought they were using gunshot samples for drums and this just sounds way nicer on the ear tbh
@kaylons2 жыл бұрын
@@pollosasadosalcarbon From what it sounds like, some metal songs use samples. The programming used is v cut and dry, no dynamics and whatnot.
@jaysleezy54642 жыл бұрын
*ahem* Bill Ward
@lastnameawesome89824 жыл бұрын
“The famous band termina” that was either a jab or compliment
@ZackGrooves4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a compliment. Love those dudes
@calebengland774 жыл бұрын
I mean they should be famous
@gabrielfestini4 жыл бұрын
Nik is everywhere 🤣🤣
@cjvifisif4 жыл бұрын
they're pretty famous by death core standards lol
@mpk66644 жыл бұрын
@@cjvifisif They're actually pretty underground for Deathcore standards lol
@seanwatson76804 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite metal drumming I've ever heard. A lot less clutter and noise, very unique breakdowns and transitions and beat patterns constantly changing hardly ever repeating anything twice exactly the same. So awesome
@mtdnelson4 жыл бұрын
On a vaguely related note... have you heard the album Stanton Moore did with Corrosion of Conformity?
@davidmedeiros89983 жыл бұрын
This is the awesomeness of blending styles. Kind of an extreme example BUT, if he had a few weeks to really get a feel for this style, I bet you’d end up with an awesome, super original sub-genre (that’s what this is but it could be even better given more time).
@timothydraper66263 жыл бұрын
@@davidmedeiros8998 He reminds me of Calton Carly Barret .
@DocJones182 жыл бұрын
That was insane! Also Zack just became much more relatable as he went back to the learning phase where you suck until you practice forever. LOOOL
@samgai67054 жыл бұрын
"prepare to cringe" *proceeds to cover the track like a boss* For reals, though. This is so good!
@RizzyTizzyLando4 жыл бұрын
“Mistakes and all” Spoken like a true musician: the only one to know where they even are haha
@commandercaptain46643 жыл бұрын
"Mistakes were made. Lives were lost."
@masonbrownlow38894 жыл бұрын
“I was just chillin out, watching some Lana Rhoades” We really not gon talk about that, huh?
@lassi3724 жыл бұрын
Yup😂😂😂😂
@macknuggz48434 жыл бұрын
I SPRINTED to the comments to see if anyone else was gonna talk about that
@maxalaintwo35784 жыл бұрын
It took me a little bit to figure that out In NNN too nonetheless
@aryaksatrya38984 жыл бұрын
I was gonna point that out
@ivanmondragon27354 жыл бұрын
lmao my mind assumed he said lana del rey and didnt flinch
@jayreloaded2580 Жыл бұрын
That was fire my dude! Love seeing drummers step out of their comfort zone especially when they kill it like you did💯
@smccool4524 жыл бұрын
Your versions of “bad” is still better than Mosts “good”. I give you an 11/10.
@ИгорьБушмелев-ш8б4 жыл бұрын
His drums still sounds jazzy. How cool is that fusion
@MBEG894 жыл бұрын
Right? What an interesting sound. Though today the whole kit would be sampled and compressed out of existence on the album.
@Volucrum4 жыл бұрын
I think the drums he has are inherently also more jazzy in their sound. Drums have their own feel along with their look. And it's minute but they do be different.
@cockpitdrummer4 жыл бұрын
'It's chain action rather than, like, a trigger pad' Hold tight everyone, that's an expert right there 😳
@2confrontational4 жыл бұрын
underrated comment :D
@jsk8drummer4 жыл бұрын
Typical GC employees lol. Every now and then there’s someone in the guitar or recording department that knows their stuff but I’ve yet to meet anyone in the drum section that has a clue about anything.
@RanDieBam4 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm a guitarist who doesn't know everything about drums, why is this wrong? 😅
@danielschafhautle16914 жыл бұрын
@@RanDieBam Trigger pad, sounds like some sort of button to me
@cockpitdrummer4 жыл бұрын
@@RanDieBam Main types of pedal are Direct drive, chain drive, or belt drive. Same as motorcycles. To mention trigger pads whilst looking at a set of manual pedals is a disgrace for an employee
@xanderdavis51862 жыл бұрын
the jazz fills and chops made this sound SOO good
@Sheepleton4 жыл бұрын
Gar Samuelson was a jazz fusion drummer who wound up playing for Megadeth in the 80's. His playing was groundbreaking and helped put thrash metal on the map. You did fantastic.
@jocphotography3 жыл бұрын
I love this. Death/Jazz fusion is the next wave.
@xlayzerx96583 жыл бұрын
check out chris turner !!
@sushio42473 жыл бұрын
Atheist be like
@ProtusMose3 жыл бұрын
I still like Jared Dines fake genre of Djazz
@halfalligator65183 жыл бұрын
Calculating Infinity says hello...
@justsomeyetiwithinternetac67873 жыл бұрын
Its called Djent my friend
@mattreevesdev4 жыл бұрын
The technique you showed at the beginning is actually much trickier to play than a normal blast beat, and it's called the "gravity blast". If you want to get it smoother and faster, the trick is to position your hand more like you're doing a side-stick hit so that the top of your hand is facing straight up, with the stick at roughly a 30-45 degree angle. Then, rather than bending your wrist (which would seem like the thing to do), lock your wrist, and just do a fluid down-up motion. Keep your fingers relaxed enough to allow the stick to bounce, and just dial in the feel until it comes through as an even, clean sound. When you find it, the stick does all the bounce work for you, and you just have to practice to be able to move your wrist that way at higher speeds. Some drummers may use more wrist for that blast, but it's whatever feels right to you. It's definitely a more advanced level blast though. I personally have the most fun with the "traditional" or "euro" blast, which is just alternating single stroke 16ths with the hands and 8th notes with the feet, with the left hand doing something between a ghost note and a normal hit. Feels really nice to play.
@aaronklein14902 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'd like to hear this level of snare finesse and articulation more often. The jazz influence is very clear but it doesn't make it not heavy only more unique which is genuinly great. If this guy played with a metal band his sound would set them aside from lots of bands. And also have to point out that usage of muting the Tom's after the fill was top notch and shows an understanding of dynamics even in a genre he's not used to. Jazz musicians really are gods.
@meILM4 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying anything, but 3:21
@juanpaez33824 жыл бұрын
your words speak volumes to the community
@1106vinnie4 жыл бұрын
Yesses kkkj
@williamzhang9704 жыл бұрын
I dont get it
@meILM4 жыл бұрын
@@williamzhang970 You lucky bastard
@williamzhang9704 жыл бұрын
I think I get it now, is it the PH theme? The double kicks confused me
@TheGreasemonkey2204 жыл бұрын
This was actually extremely satisfying to say not bad at all.
@atthecore45604 жыл бұрын
YT Winning comment right here!
@ΑλέξηςΣτάμος4 жыл бұрын
Next video: jazz drummer covers "Bleed" by meshuggah
@fabiorenatomeditacao4 жыл бұрын
Clockworks....
@agustinbustos37994 жыл бұрын
His legs: guess i'll die
@pingpongpung4 жыл бұрын
Jazz drummer bleeds while covering Meshuggah.
@mrsbeard52254 жыл бұрын
PLLLLLEASE!!
@biroadamfrigyes3344 жыл бұрын
Right in the deep water baby 🤘🏿
@eddybouh20793 жыл бұрын
I love how that snare sound. I'm a metalhead and I think it's better than the overproduced stuff we hear in modern metal.
@FinnGamble3 жыл бұрын
💯 so sick of hearing the same effing samples in every metal song nowadays
@fizzysh4rk3 жыл бұрын
as a dude with no knowledge about drumming, can you point out a song as an example? i keep seeing these comments about overproduced stuff but just have no idea about any of it. and maybe an example of a song that isn’t overproduced? thanks to anyone who answers!
@eddybouh20793 жыл бұрын
@@fizzysh4rk Hi! you have both exemple here. listen to the original track with the link in the description, then come back listen to the drums in this video. I'm pretty sure this is programmed drum machine using samples in the original (the over quantized machine gun effect with every hit at max velocity), compared to Zach playing a real drum kit with a single microphone to record it. this is a good exemple of "overproduced" VS "next to no production at all".
@tpags73983 жыл бұрын
His snare sounds like old Snapcase, super high pitched and super aggressive
@eddybouh20793 жыл бұрын
@@tpags7398 yes exactly, do you like it too? it's a matter of taste, but I prefer an organic sound and the human "feel" of a real drummer with a single mic rather than a drum software playing midi, full force, 100% quantized to the grid with 10 layers of plugins to process it. those tasty fills with the ghost notes and all... you can't program that. and I'm just a random metal "bedroom producer" using superior drummer for my drums. man I spend HOURS trying to humanize my midi and I mainly use unprocessed kits. when I hear stuff with drums like that deathcore track, I'm like "GTFO"..... it's more electro than metal to me. I think it's lazy.
@oscaralegria67464 жыл бұрын
"its too hard", "i never play deathcore" he plays the shit like a god...
@milestrotter68444 жыл бұрын
Now it should be: "death core drummer attempts: JAZZ" Thanks for the likes :*) I appreciate it ya'll
@MrLowery974 жыл бұрын
Look up Voice of trespass by a band called between the buried and me. I think that's pretty much what you're asking for :)
@akunin4174 жыл бұрын
@@MrLowery97 aye, fucking love between the buried and me
@Fragments_Ov_Shattered_Malice_4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Kitcher would like to know your location
@ricksterdrummer21704 жыл бұрын
@@Fragments_Ov_Shattered_Malice_ Ain’t that the guy who has zero dynamics in his drumming?
@Fragments_Ov_Shattered_Malice_4 жыл бұрын
@@ricksterdrummer2170 hes the drummer in infant annihilator kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXrQeZxna8iqp8U
@jeremy76802 жыл бұрын
Hes right about jazz drummers. Your guys sheer precision and holy crap the dynamics I've seen jazz drummers displaying, nothing short of outfucking standing.
@skux.13954 жыл бұрын
You should try and learn a periphery song. The drummer is insane and it’ll be fun to see you try and attempt it
@ludwigborgkvist56924 жыл бұрын
I second this!
@charliewhelan94884 жыл бұрын
Good shout
@stringsofgrace55914 жыл бұрын
waiting
@Dracula_sb4 жыл бұрын
He should learn 22 Faces
@hailhummus4 жыл бұрын
And they are unabashedly influenced by jazz musicians too
@chasefredricks51404 жыл бұрын
As you said “with mistakes and all”.There might have been some slight hiccups, but for someone that is a jazz player going into one of the most ridiculous play styles in metal ( while being taught some technique from someone younger than you) you absolutely shredded those jazz cymbals with your new found double bass. You were simply made to play the drums. Mad respect and SUBSCRIBED Edit: I listened again with headphones bc the first listen I was listening through my phone speaker which made it sounds you went off beat sometimes, but really that was beyond exceptional, pls forgive me
@KaneTaliaferro4 жыл бұрын
Dude honestly you killed it. Seriously jazz drummers make death metal and death core so much cooler. I’d love to see more of this!!
@drummerjoey Жыл бұрын
Wow was not expecting that out of you amazing simply amazing bro
@JeromeThrumurgan4 жыл бұрын
I love how nice and open he is to metal, some other jazz drummers are very hostile, not to say some metal drummers aren’t like that
@drumjoedrum3 жыл бұрын
So true! Go to pretty much any drum group and you hear nothing but animosity from jazz drummers towards metal. Very closed minded. This was very refreshing to see and hear. Well done my dude! 🤘🤘
@greendog16604 жыл бұрын
You’ve captured an actual performance. This is already much better than most of deathcore bands and drummers using Superior Drummer on their records. Well done my man!
@MrNycdre233 жыл бұрын
This has been done before it’s called “Candiria”, this NY hardcore band had a huge jazz influence and their drummer Kenneth Schalk really let his jazz drumming shine in every track.
@Ayralis3 жыл бұрын
06:01 and 06:23 was fire! Letting the jazz shine trough :D nice
@Kylink4 жыл бұрын
6:24 The jazziest fill in the song is literally the best part lol This is why, as a mostly metal drummer, I really want more jazz in my vocab, great job!
@Struud4 жыл бұрын
Bro you absolutely killed it! Ive been a metal drummer for 15 years and I can say without a doubt this is the best I've ever heard a Jazz drummer play Metal
@crawbag4 жыл бұрын
Jazz drummer or not, you can’t ignore how tight your play through was.
@YungBeezy512 жыл бұрын
That's was awesome bro!!! No complaints from this metal head 🤘🏾
@Jack_Rivet4 жыл бұрын
I love that he goes from never playing double kick to pretty much expert level in just over an hour.
@brycekr1sp1es674 жыл бұрын
He’s like “yeah im gonna stink” then proceeds to play better than I could if i tried😂
@twolvy90234 жыл бұрын
This was actually soothing to watch. As a metal drummer your fluidity is actually refreshing
@boredom98042 жыл бұрын
I love how you had someone come for lessons, and they ended up giving you tips and teaching you stuff too, great stuff bro!
@satyrosphilbrucato91404 жыл бұрын
People Who Don't Like Metal: "That just sounds like noise! LOL - those dudes can't play!" Actual Jazz Drummer: "Holy shit, that's hard!"
@NotDingse4 жыл бұрын
As a guy who doesn’t like most metal: I know it’s hard. A lot of is is really fucking hard. But ultimately all music is noise and some people just don’t like if that noise is hard on the ears. I’ve been to like one or two metal concerts and jammed with metal musicians and I honestly can say I probably won’t ever be a fan, even if I respect their talent. I do love Sabbath and Deep Purple though.
@proudtobeanamerican19974 жыл бұрын
I'm a tech death metal guy. Metal core makes me want to take a poop. I hate death core. Say metal drummers can't play jazz to; Mike Portnoy, Charlie Benante, Gene Hoglan, Derek Roddy, Samus Paulicelli, Jason Bittner, George Kollias, and more and more.
@ZachoLibre4 жыл бұрын
@@proudtobeanamerican1997 define tech death metal. Is that like the crazy shit that Rings of Saturn plays or is it something I'm less familiar with? I'm pretty inexperienced with cores other than groove metal and generic heavy metal, so I just don't know.
@proudtobeanamerican19974 жыл бұрын
@@ZachoLibre Rings of saturn is but if they had generic death metal guitars they wouldn't because there drumming is more like metal core drumming and easy to play for these tech death drummers. Hear are some bands aka also my favorites. Decapitated maybe would count, I'm not sure, Nile, Hate Eternal, and Decrepit Birth
@JerehmiaBoaz4 жыл бұрын
Metal head: "It's hard to play so it must be good!"
@littlenepotiz11734 жыл бұрын
Cringe? I think this guy needs a Xanax because it looked and sounded fine.
@TREE5ON4 жыл бұрын
Sucks? He gd
@prodevus4 жыл бұрын
You got baited bruv
@proudtobeanamerican19974 жыл бұрын
Metal core is cringe. Death Metal on top.
@joshlynch56764 жыл бұрын
@@proudtobeanamerican1997 Death anything is cringe lol. You literally delete all melody and insert chugs and blast beats for 2 minutes straight. Reeeee.
@proudtobeanamerican19974 жыл бұрын
@@joshlynch5676 imagine saying that but you are cringe yourself by putting, "Reeeee." Or is this like a whoosh type thing?
@christxpher07593 жыл бұрын
"Get ready to cringe" but dude is casually gravity blasting like it's nothing
@aplus10803 жыл бұрын
And doing insane double bass 😂
@fransringo3232 жыл бұрын
I love when somebody so humble killin the stage. Much appreciated.
@lim_jaheylol7783 жыл бұрын
That was actually pretty legit. When you're musically inclined you can pick up any style quickly
@eliorcutt48333 жыл бұрын
"i was just chilling watching some lana rhoads" this man lmao
@bboy_nliten3 жыл бұрын
I wish I wasn't drinking something when he said dat, cuz I deadass spit it out😂
@beatfromjetsetradio82393 жыл бұрын
Me, a devout metalhead: “Fuckin’ WHO?”
@wanjanechtangroeger3 жыл бұрын
This is actually very good! I think what most jazz drummers tend to get wrong about any metal stuff is the aggression and attitude but you nailed that!
@TheFencingFox Жыл бұрын
Seriously we need more Jazz-Deathcore crossovers. This was so amazing💚
@marcellotresoldi60234 жыл бұрын
Using Ghost notes in a deathcore fill Is the funniest thing i've ever seen Great job man 💪
@AtanoKSi4 жыл бұрын
Ghost notes in deathcore becomes one of those very gnarly djent bands