The Pyro Archon Is FINALLY Here | Mavuika Pre-Release Analysis

[@thanatoswing]

this is basically an archon quest

[@pyronado4320]

1/3 of act 1

[@Scott-yh3pq]

Certainly more engaging than an archon quest

[@ConfusedOwl92]

​@@Scott-yh3pqFacts

[@el7284]

Genshin quests if you removed all the filler dialogue. "I always wanted to be friends because I never had friends before so if you'd be my friend that would make me happy" Ffs

[@alissonandre]

They last 5 hours now if you let it autoplay the text

[@GoldLink364]

Isn't the Mondstadt Archon Quest shorter than this video?

[@WinterDulcet]

25:16 L-Lewd…

[@SteveZood]

i stand with Venti

[@UncleMerlin]

​@@WinterDulcet what does that have to do with anything

[@johnd7760]

@@UncleMerlin not like most comments here have to do with anything, anyway lol

[@Sacration]

lmaoo

[@Erkoriam]

actual full length movie

[@ooochoa]

The book was better.

[@felixmontanez4090]

Literal cinema

[@Kindi001]

tell me when they made comic addaptation

[@aelfgernon7729]

Not long enough to be called a feature film by SAG. (But its length would qualify it as a feature film as defined by several other organisations.)

[@Goodday639]

Feature Length 💀

[@eccehomo5122]

It's sad how she got so much mobility but ends up doing donuts in benett's circle

[@justacatwithasadface2692]

Tbf, not a lot of characters use mobility in conjunction with their combat anyway. It's a big flaw in Genshin's combat design.

[@melonbread4269]

Her NA animations are sick too

[@PsychoticLulu]

@@justacatwithasadface2692 Clorinde goes brrrr but yea, it's quite sad

[@mikakagehira5714]

Ifa will be the one TRUST

[@gintobitim1611]

Genshin combat design is like it's either simple yet boring.. or when they tried to make it fun, it ended up clunky and annoying.

[@FirstLast-qq9zh]

Feels like a lotta Mavuika support teams boil down to: it’s good buttttt you could just swap out the carry for a support, then stay on Mavuika and do more dmg

[@Azerad79]

as expected of a dps

[@agiant5715]

Ngl i would still use her as support for my mualani burn vape (cus i got EM issues without nahida cus codex domain wasnt kind to me), as Mavuika would need alot of my premium supports like furina/xilo/bennett if shes a main dps and I already got very lucky with a c1r1 arlecchino early before so probably not gonna see a significant dmg ceiling increase if I replace her. But i get it how bad it will feel to play such wasted potential teams

[@_Kura.]

Kind of wish this wasn't the explanation because if I want to play her as a support the likelihood is that I have a more highly invested main dps she isn't necessarily going to be better than (and I want to play more) *cough cough* kinich *cough*

[@niquitozzosullivan3377]

oh wow, a pyro main dps character, such a refreshment!

[@nek0nata]

You are, ofc, right but as someone who has been waiting for a pyro dps consider: Diluc 👎 Klee 👎 Dehya 👎lyney and Yoimiya: 🏹 HuTao and Arlecchino: weird health mechanics To this moment I haven’t pulled for any of them because I dont like their gameplay or damage. Mavuika is just what I was waiting for

[@lycerisrico8943]

​@@nek0natayou forgot that Mavuika also have weird mechanics like Hu Tao/Arle lol

[@nek0nata]

@@lycerisrico8943 mmm I don’t see it that way, at least I don’t need to pay attention to the health bar

[@infiniteaj8688]

​@@nek0nataNo offense but if you need to pay attention to Arle's health bar, you probably have major issues using her properly or dodging. I run mine with Furina almost always, meaning my Arlecchino basically only ever has half health, and even then she never dies. She deletes everything long before that. Her burst is just there for emergencies. Hu Tao is even less worrying. Their HP 'mechanics' aren't even noticeable in reality. Not to say you shouldn't pull Mavuika or anything, just that the reasoning for those two always irks me everytime I see it.

[@crome2021]

@@nek0nataDiluc is good if you have Xianyun

[@lazybvr9989]

43:15 Yet another archon that makes very niche characters - in this case Bennett, Xilonen and Furina - useful. Very cool indeed, can't wait to be forced to play dendro teams on the 2nd half anytime I pick Mauvika for the 1st.

[@lucifermorningstar8387]

I hate how genshin devs refuse to give us a 5 star bennett. It’ll let us play 2 atk scaling dps in the abyss. It’s like they are allergic to money

[@jiujiu-rb5gz]

but bennett is for chasca. can mihoyo create another bennet frreal we need two bennets

[@matthewsarson6934]

At least Furina buffed a lot of older characters like Noelle/Jean when she came out. Even if she is 'better' Mavuika is just another Pyro main DPS.

[@ladderlappen4585]

yep pretty boring kit indeed. but we do get 2 very interesting shielders at the same time so who cares.

[@JayDamaso78]

​@lucifermorningstar8387 you can still play 2 attack scaling dps in the Abyss, promise.

[@JFarenci]

DPR: Donuts Per Rotation

[@knicklichtjedi]

DPS = Damage per Spin

[@I.disagree]

Rotations per rotation

[@Apricot_418]

RPM: Rotations Per Mavuika

[@permastuned4066]

APM Abysses Per Mavuika

[@Benisbucker]

Hate the lack of F2P weapons for her if you missed out on event stuff

[@mickysaif]

claymore and polearm 4 stars usually suck ass for f2p

[@nguyentandung42]

@@mickysaifhey the catch exist, otherwise yeah it’s kinda bad.

[@s1imosha]

​@@nguyentandung42the catch came out three years ago...

[@nasipadang1da]

​​​@@s1imoshaand we can only get 1, for xl and noone else

[@nguyentandung42]

@@s1imosha ? Doesn’t mean you still can’t get it.

[@hal4683]

the first archon i’ve seen a lot of people say they will skip….

[@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn]

Lmao you are new to the internet then. Zhongli had a entire meltdown around his release wich led to him being the only buffed unit ever. Raiden had a entire meltdown around her not working with EMC and Beidou with players sending death threats to the devs and calling her trash for only giving 20% energy to the team. Nahida had a entire section of twitter, youtube and reddit have a meltdown over her being white and that you have a moral obligation to skip her otherwise you are racist. Furina had a bunch of haters and doomposters calling her a brat and saying she is trash because she forces you to use healers whichbat the time was seen as a downgrade of Shielders. Nothing has changed, everyone following the leaks will cry, rant and have a meltdown and then the silent Majority who is 90% of the playerbase who don't follow leaks religiously will pull and love the character.

[@vilfs]

@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn well i skipped raiden and nahida both. i just don't go around screaming about it to everyone. you don't know who the majority or minority is because there's simply no data about it.

[@Applebomb8D]

People said they would skip raiden when they first saw her. Called her model ugly and like an npc etc. we all saw how that turned out.

[@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn]

@@vilfs LMAO the sales show who the majority are and who aren't. 90% of the playerbase do not follow leaks like we do and do not theorize before units release, the vast majority's first interaction with a new unit is when they do the character trials and reads the skills in there. The leak followers and doomposters are ALWAYS the minority, ALWAYS. They are loud, like most minorities are but it doesn't change the fact they are a minority. Its no different than the whole Genshin boycott that was all over youtube, Twitter and reddit where every CC and their mother talked about it and where it got 100K signatures. Then you remember Genshin has 64 million players so that 100K that was so loud wasn't even 1% of the playerbase, or even 0.2% of the playerbase.

[@vilfs]

@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn she's an archon she's going to sell regardless, how well she sells is the only matter up to debate. genshin's revenue has been dropping since natlan according to trends, that's just a fact. all the extra stuff we're getting with exploration primos, free pulls, better anniv awards is genshin trying to retain their playerbase. i'm sure she's gonna get her dues though despite how controversial natlan has been. my point was just to show there's still people who dislike characters (not just archons) and will skip them regardless of how meta they are and we can't know which characters are the most loved bc there's simply no data to corroborate it from multiple regions and platforms

[@Rodolfo872]

Skipped all Natlan characters saving for Mavuika, now she needs them...

[@aciooica4469]

If you skipped all of them you should have enough primo for Mavuika + Citlali, no?

[@Silver-Arm]

Now you get her + Citlali instead of constelations

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

No one fights alone hahaaa

[@johns783]

if you get c1 she doesnt need them nearly as much. though xilonen was clearly going to be bis for literally anything, and especially natlan teams. citlali will be almost as good, if not better for her. good luck with whatever you choose, you'll be fine.

[@_mako]

rip bozo 🤣🫵

[@fats2010]

i really hate to be so negative but it's honestly crazy how disappointing she is for SO much of the playerbase. I think the one thing people desperately wanted was a universal pyro support so that they could finally use someone other than xiangling or bennett, and instead we got our third top tier pyro dps and she relies heavily on Natlan units in the team. It's pretty rare that I see this little positivity about a character, let alone an archon. At least Citlali seems fun enough though, she's sort of had the opposite effect where I've started liking her more and more as things have progressed

[@jiffonbuffo]

"for SO much of the playerbase" Are you sure about this? Coz the negativity that Chasca got didn't translate to actual sales as she ended up the second most owned C6 character in CN's previous Abyss data after Chiori.

[@thelordhu3200]

@@jiffonbuffo Where can i see this data?

[@morasiregar1052]

​@@jiffonbuffobs, Neuv, Yelan, Arle, and Mualani tops her.

[@masajus1]

@@jiffonbuffo "for SO much" he means 1% of 1% of meta slaves while rest 99% of player base dont give dam or is indifferent

[@lotticello]

​@@jiffonbuffo this argument is ridiculous because you're comparing c6 ownership of the players that have that character, not in total. If only 10 people pull for a character and 5 have them c6 the 50% will have them c6, but if 1000 pull for a character and 100 have them c6 the percentage will only be 10%. Why did you bring this up. What does it add to the conversation except that the character is owned by very few people /nm /genq

[@satan9247]

I've legit not been this dissapointed over an Archon release ever

[@Chronos445]

And so Bennet is still the pyro archon!

[@beastwithin7772]

Bennett is the Pyro Sovereign 🎉

[@CM_684]

Yup, and will most likely continue being the pyro archon if even the current pyro archon can't compare

[@dleise]

Yep. Simply more useful.

[@Pavme]

bennet is secretly Xblanque

[@ludwigvanbeethoven5176]

And a more compelling character too🥱🤭

[@peterparker1262]

The fact that neither of the artifacts synergize with her perfectly makes me wonder if she was changed heavily pre beta or will we get a new artifact set for her.

[@lostblueboy]

funny you say that. we WERE supposed to get new sets in 5.3, but natlan broke a pattern ONCE again. If they really wanted to give her new artifact set, why do that?

[@hikaruichinose4476]

Possible, but then her weapon's CRIT tells you that obsidian is the one that we should use

[@AlwaysThirstys]

This is just telling em they are gonna release a new set for her in 6.x and she is then gonna improve even more.

[@silentrhymes7490]

I dont really see how even an artefact that synergizes with her can beat the 40% crit rate on her burst which is more than half her damage. Or the artefact would be broken as fuck

[@Bliss467]

It’s hilarious how going into Fontaine, everyone was saying Bennett fell off and is potentially no longer top tier 😅

[@JojoDigitalArtist]

It was true...for like 10 seconds then right back to Bennett T_T

[@RKNancy]

That's the most irritating part about Mavuika being a bike DPS. I THOUGHT MY BENNETT WILL FINALLY RETIRE!

[@singhoda]

only neuvi and clorinde didn't use Ben rest of the Fontaine dps still had him in their best team

[@marklawoi7981]

But only Leyney and Arrchilno use him was there another Dps that use him beside​s those two? @@singhoda

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@RKNancy I'm scared they are going to release a 5 star bennet and people are gonna be forced to pull them once every 6 months or struggle. It's like pulling for kazuha back in 1.6 even if you loved yoimiya and ended up missing her and later regretting it and quitting genshin due to hit and finally returning only to lose 50/50 again and then ended up needing to spend money. Seriously they don't need to release a massive powercrept to more supports and creating another situation where you need to pull a character with new flaws just fo ryou to ask for another improved version.

[@seunabe4612]

Actually shocked how many people are disappointed with this character as a whole, but can’t say I blame them either. Having Archons be universally applicable supports is what makes them beloved but they split it in half with dps/support where on one half she’s another Bennett bot that needs other Natlan characters because fuck you, and on the other half she’s at best a Xiangling sidegrade, just yikes all around

[@deedeesga34]

she’s an upgrade in many teams wdym sidegrade?

[@agiant5715]

Its just as you said, archons are known tobe an account wide support buff for everyone like even zhongli whos now never the BiS option in any team is still a universal flex slot due to his all elemental res sherd and great sheilding + not interfering with the ongoing elemental reactions. Mavuika meanwhile only really as a support just buffs some natlan main dpses and a few other teams and even then not as big of a boost compared to like how furina or nahida did for their respective niches (atleast compared to XL whos free). As a pyro main dps shes already facing tough competition and while being a new dps ceiling in every lvl of investment comparison (if we include the characters having their BiS teams), the difference is quite marginal in lower investments and its more than likely if not another pyro dps, some other elemental one would powercrept her soon (think of how arlecchino on release was a MUCH higher potential ST dmg ceiling jump to the pervious dpses to her to only then get powercrept by most natlan ones less than half a patch later). TLDR: shes a good character at what she does but not a good archon considering what came before her

[@kenthin]

She's literally better than Xiangling in half the teams LOL this comment is even more hilarious though after footage came out

[@shrimpflavoredchips9122]

Until now ive felt like every archon had a nice f2p weapon or 3 star weapon thats usable. The other archons kind of opened up possibilities for weaker or less used characters. I feel like mavuika needs premium weapon, premium or high demand supports. Disappointing, but at least skipping her i can pull citlali comfortably.

[@johnd7760]

eh, not rly. what she needs most, is her bis team. having her sig but not the natlan core wont mean much.

[@JoeEver123]

Since when you need premium stuff in this game. To get that one bonus pull per month? Bruh

[@thelakes_s]

her damage is genuinely so good she will clear will relative ease with a f2p weapon and not the highest investment as zajef said, her sig is about the same increase as other sigs in recent memory. you guys grasp at straws to hate on mavuika its crazy

[@jsw973]

​@@JoeEver123People who thinks like you shouldn't be commenting on an hour long pre release of a character's kit. Yes, we know it's not worth the sanity loss for you. However, unlike you, we play the game, not just watch the story and go to the casino. We enjoy team building, defeating enemies, and maximising the hell out of characters.

[@Wagyube-ef]

@@jsw973 But they said Genshin was a story-focused exploration game and that adding more end-game would result in unnecessary stress to the players so yes, he is playing the game just like u are except he isn't worrying about that one extra pull per month because he skimped out of that premium weapon/team! Until they add another Benett and/or Xiangling into the game; teambuilding will be a snoozerfest

[@th2112]

ITS ALWAYS XIANGLING

[@maxwu4145]

Meme doesnt really apply anymore. ITS ALWAYS BENNET is more accurate

[@liangyu-u7f]

THEY COULD NEEVER MAKE ME HATE HER

[@snowragi]

time to watch yet another pre-release for a character i won't be pulling :D

[@Sacration]

Me right now

[@hal4683]

the first archon i will skip. genuinely more excited about xiangling’s skin

[@snowragi]

@@hal4683 can't switch xiangling, but at least we can switch what she looks like :D

[@user-i9z]

@@hal4683 same. Xiangling skin actually convinced me to go back, not Natlan release lol

[@aventurussy]

honestly very disappointed with her kit the only new thing she offers is a restriction for her own burst lol, im very tempted to skip and get citlali instead, pyro is just so saturated and if you have arlecchino I don't really see a reason to pull for mavuika

[@jyusatsu]

Yeah just do it. I'm going for Citlali instead. I already have Arlecchino and Lyney for my pyro dps so if Mavuika doesn't offer that much as an off-fielder, it's not practical and economical to pull her. I might just pick her up on her rerun if there aren't any future characters I would pull.

[@WasaboDuckBoy]

yeah i really didnt expect this tbh. im an archon collector so ig im getting her eventually, but its so funny how im legit just gonna skip her for citlali aka the more interesting unit and less likely to be rerun sooner ideally i would get mavuika too, but they decided to break the chronicled wish rules just so they could put shenhe on it. so that's 2 characters im skipping mavuika for

[@x1UnnameD1x]

Why did you need arleccino when you already had diluc, klee, hutao, yoimiya, xianling, gaming? Absolutely useless character, worst design.

[@cloudcomes4644]

Tbh pyro is kinda the dps role, i kinda expected pyro archon to be a dps and its kinda nice that she is kinda a better xl. Also bennet is the pyro god so mihoyo probably not gonna powercreep him with any unit

[@Sacration]

Indeed, im saturated in Pyro dps (Arlecchino, Lyney) so I dont need ANOTHER one while I play only one of the 2 I already have, she doesnt have enough supporting capabilities imo Id rather pull the support, they are always worth it. Also sick NA animations all that to just do DONUT ? Boring sorry Id rather bonk the shit out of Hilichurls with Arlecchino NA.

[@hydreigon2709]

I really hate that her playstyle is Charged attacks. It looks so dumb and is so unengaging to play.

[@FirlowXD]

"Where does that lead you?" Don't say it don't say it don't say it "Furina"

[@FirlowXD]

I have Furina and Xilonen it's just funny that we're at Bennet and Furina again

[@azix2915]

More like Bennett 😢 We're so tired of circle impact, what part of that the devs don't understand smh

[@moxigene]

coulda said Bennett and it's more accurate

[@nk30020]

Citlali replaces furina in mavuika teams & they are better than vape, unless you got c2 furina but then again c2 citlali is also insanely strong, it's Bennett that's irreplaceable.....

[@jamiedoesthings]

*leave, btw

[@ruby_roze0]

Bennett Bennett Bennett Bennett Bennett

[@KategariYami]

Seek help. Touch grass.

[@ooochoa]

@@ruby_roze0 Good evening and welcome.

[@mickysaif]

still the goat and the real pyro archon

[@The-hamster2471]

@@KategariYami I’m going to assume this is a bot because how do you get pressed over a name being said 5 times?!?

[@leka2095]

i read this to the tune of burnice i'm cooked aren't i

[@Icredivm]

As a 1.0 continues player, she feels pretty disappointing. Thinking about skipping her for Citlali, who enables more teams

[@nasipadang1da]

why not get both and get more team comp 😂

[@harshdhyani8721]

Use layla

[@ABC-yj6cy]

​@@nasipadang1dahe's probably low on primos

[@Kellexyz]

​@@nasipadang1dajust get all character am i right 😂

[@mayukhmondal5552]

I don't get the whole "citlali enables more" thing bcs she is only really a sizeable upgrade for Arlecchino Mavuika and gaming. Another major loophole i just don't get is, if people liked universal units so much why skip xilonen? From what I have seen a majority of pushback comes from people who skipped Xilonen

[@number-1-furina-fan]

hey I wanna thank you, zajef and editors, for recording and editing such a comprehensive video. I usually have trouble parsing out what exactly a kit means/what it does on a first read, so hearing someone explaining it is really helpful. I also appreciate the sections on team synergies and the weapon options. if you're planning on making citlali and lan yan analyses, I'm looking forward to them!

[@x0xNateRiverx0x]

I think natlan characters have been very underwhelming so far. The expectations for Mavuika to replace Xiangling squarely was something everyone kind of wanted rather than reliance on natlan characters (though lorewise somewhat accurate). Its a very likely skip for me.

[@fgsfds__]

Mualani and xilonen isn't underwhelming for me

[@yuugael4010]

underwhelming for you probably, Mualani clear speedrun section no one come close to her speed at all investment level, Xilonen need I say more?, Chasca is the best exploration and the best c6 in the game.

[@KategariYami]

14:21 "Mualani does more Pyro Damage than C6 Ayato" TRUE!

[@butter5144]

😒

[@rottenorange5238]

He called her Mualani more than once during the video lol

[@azix2915]

oh godlani

[@Romashka_Sov]

False. They do equal amounts of pyro damage, which is 0

[@imjustaguycalledsano]

​@@Romashka_Sov Well C6 Bennett would like to have a word...

[@TheScavv]

Understanding the kits of new characters is more difficult than any of the actual gameplay content in Genshin.

[@KatrinaAmaxas]

Way too true.

[@nword6232]

The true endgame

[@MachigaMMO]

Hoyo systematically killed my interest in her: - Another on-field pyro - wants Bennett - Rides a motorcycle because reasons - Best damage by far involves using the bike - Reliant on regional characters rather than expand the regional flavor to other characters Can’t believe I don’t care about the Pyro Archon anymore.

[@zedo-vn]

reactions reliant pyro aswell

[@goseeex]

Honestly, same. I was so excited and I love Mavuikas character and I liked her design. But now im completely put off

[@soulstealer5625]

​@@goseeexwas worried they were gonna make choosing between ehr and Citlali hard. Not a hard choice after all

[@johnd7760]

get c1 so that u can use anyone, moment. amazing bait, lets see how many will bite.

[@Sacration]

Dont forget sick NA but needs to do DONUT to do dmg

[@themaladaptiveotter]

Why didn’t they design her kit with more off field incentives?? 😭 She could’ve been a bennet alternative too y’know. The devs could’ve designed her kit as a sidegrade for bennet by default, but also add an extra mechanic where the buffing encourages characters to move around the area instead of being stuck in one place like in bennet’s circle. The more the character moves around (as is the case for Natlan chars), the better the buffs get. So if you’re using Natlan chars, you get way more mileage, but still be equal to bennet for setups using characters who don’t move around that much (like Arle, Wrio, Navia etc). Honestly, I’m disappointed I couldn’t enjoy a more powerful off field version of her that feels like the support from an archon. It’s too early to say I know, and regardless I’ll be pulling, but I guess I just expected more from her? ☹️

[@AlwaysThirstys]

I wanted her to provide seomthing special as a buff/debuff like either using elemental reactions to generate stacks to buff characters such as their level. Ex each elemental reaction trigger gives 1 stack and each stack is extra 2 levels capping at 20 for both weapons and characters upon usage of burst this lasts for 35 seconds. While this might be difficult to code, not only is it a pseudo def shred but it's a sub stat, hp, and attack boost which is massive QOL. The concept stays true to the cinder city set of triggering reactions but it also buffs things such as burgeon/reaction teams, giving a massive boost the kinich chasca and other teams while not making mualani neuv and arlecchino that much stronger due to lack of reactions even if hp scales better with level due to weapons. Finally this buffs def scaling/geo characters the most due to the fact that they are often hydrid scaling meaning they benifit form both weapons and also levels more. I would keep the dps form the same except with some nerfs but this would massively change how genshin would be played and make muavika one of the msot unique characters ever.

[@sakutaro3musik486]

You can't complain and then say you pull her anyways. You should Skip her to show the devs your dissappointment

[@themaladaptiveotter]

@@sakutaro3musik486 i think you failed to consider I could also be pulling for her on-field capabilities 😂 I neither have hu tao nor arle, so she’d help my account significantly.

[@TheVermilliaFamily]

Yep. Solidifies that this is going to be my first Archon skipped. I'm very disappointed. No other archon is tied so heavily to premium, recently-released units like this. Literally every prior Archon is capable of off-field elemental application, so why are we putting the caveat that her teammates want to be Natlanese for the best outcome? It gives me Nilou vibes, and an archon shouldn't be so limited. (God I hate her motorcycle attacks... I wish it was only for movement)

[@jaffrry5120]

Seriously, did you all watch the video and came with this outcome? Literally the video is about explaining how good her teams are both on-field and off-field and how it is actually better than Xiangling's in most scenarios and all you people look at is "SHE IS ON FIELDER DUH DUH". I get not liking her design, or her donut playstyle, but literally the video explains how it can be better than Xiangling's both in damage and QoL.

[@miscellaneous7777]

YES BUT ONLY WITH NATLAN SUPPORTS how about you watch the video again. The people I talked to are mad disappointed about the motorcycle and natlan cast consisting of little girls and the fact that you need those lame looking units to get her full potential isn’t worth it.

[@jaffrry5120]

​​@@miscellaneous7777 Ah yes, just as how Furina need those healers making her SOO restrictive so she won't be meta just like last time amiright. Also having slower application than Xingqiu and Yelan makes her a sidegrade at best amiright. Cry me a river

[@_islande]

@@jaffrry5120 as someone who stopped playing natlan because most of the character roster does not call to me and was waiting for mauvika, having heard that she needs bennett and most natlan character to work was not what i expected. i should have given the natlan new artifact sets. i was expecting a support archon who could rival bennett and xiangling off field in most teams, but doesn't seem to be the case. half of the roster she supports off field i don't even have...

[@ruxbon]

​@@jaffrry5120Furina isn't even the worst comparison, but there are ppl comparing her to Neuvillette bc dmg dealer vs dmg dealer, right? the thing is, Neuvi without Furina is a terrible dps and they released very soon in their region after their appearance, as well as one patch apart from each other (4.1 first half for Neuv and 4.2 first half for Furi), so getting both asap wasn't as feasible meanwhile, ppl saving for Mavuika had more patches to do so since her first appearance, something players could deduce from devs explaining AQ would end (which is when archons release) in 5.3, so for those who saved, it's quite possible to get her AND Citlali, and even then, there are 2 or them separating Mav and Xilonen, also feasible to get both and not Citlali imo

[@bryghian]

so she supports the team by killing everything? got it!

[@cleod7439]

She supports teams by not needing the onfielder to be onfield :D

[@linhang1573]

So it's like running hyperbloom with Eula 😂

[@PaRaNiki_]

Man, the longer I watched, the less I want to pull her.

[@surreabel]

Imma try for c1 to increase her uptime and lesser the reliance on other Natlan units

[@lafeechloe6998]

@@surreabel Same

[@Sable813]

I didn't realize how meh she is as a strictly off field pyro sub dps. Xiangling is still very competitive...I don't care for another pyro dps so I was going to just strictly use her as an E bot. Now I'm not sure, maybe I skip and go for Citlali?

[@Ranamon9132]

@@surreabelI want that too but I also wanna get Citlali. I’ll guarantee both of em but I’m hoping to get lucky then maybe c1 mavuika and c0 Citlali. Knowing my luck tho, that won’t happen. I’m just so happy they’re on the same banner

[@user-lz4gb2pf7j]

If anything she makes me want to pull for Citlali so my other pyro dpses don't get powercrept

[@Swekyde]

It really sucks how much every attack scaler needs Bennett. Want to play Chasca and Mavuika on both sides at the same time? Fuck you I guess. Feels like you have to play Neuv Hyper or Hyperbloom (or maybe Aggravate/Spread) on the other side because those teams can't really use Bennett.

[@ryan-tabar]

They do it to make it more annoying to build teams for abyss.

[@AlwaysThirstys]

You don't need bennet, chasca can just use deyha ororon and layla. For muavika she can instead run kachina rosaria/keaya/xinqiu due to rainswords and then sucrose/diona etc. You never need to use him except for achieving optimal damage.

[@marcusvinicius917]

​@AlwaysThirstyswhy even play with an mid team? I could use amber Barbara kaeya, would be fun? Strong? NO

[@johnd7760]

not always thew case lol. if u have high att statsticks like wgs, u can do dmg% amp units.

[@agiant5715]

I feel with mavuika's already high base atk + her atk% passive buff (and base attack of sig if you got lucky with it) she can afford to giveup bennett for someone who would need it more in abyss like a mono pyro arlecchino or chascs team. But yeah, the fact bennett is the BiS choice for many teams now by a wide margin too is starting to get old especially for having fun with variety team comps in abyss and other combat time limited events

[@misko2952]

Of all the things I could spend an hour watching, I guess I'm doing this now.

[@mickysaif]

it's 2:30 am and i can't afford to sleep because this video dropped

[@zaneaulner4333]

​@@mickysaifWe almost share the same timezone, may I ask where you live?

[@razvyz8067]

​@@mickysaif...u could just watch the next day?

[@mickysaif]

@@zaneaulner4333 south india

[@mickysaif]

@@razvyz8067 I can't wait that long unfortunately kekw

[@soldier_4th_class]

Spilled my coffee when I hear the BMX team name. I like it 😂

[@dandazed5846]

It’s so perfect 😭

[@ahmedmubarak751]

Did you really spill your coffee or is that just an expression ?

[@amelta2008]

Here before they fix "Muavika" Edit: I meant the typo in the title (it's fixed now), not the entire archon's kit lmao the replies are crazy

[@luminous3558]

She is very good with Maulani

[@leka2095]

(grabs ticket)

[@McNugge.]

Dangit, I'm too late!!😢😢

[@butter5144]

​@@luminous3558yup, im fucking fed up with xiangling ,, her c4 burst messes up my vv setup😡

[@saramegan2243]

it can't be fixed, because what disgusts me is the motorbike and the horrible animations, and this comes from someone who has a motorbike but the mere idea that I have to hit the enemies with the wheels... well, it disgusts me

[@Kicksrockskids]

When those combos of lectors or heralds return on abyss, xiangling will still be preferred.

[@nickb2478]

so basically what im hearing is that bennett is still the true pyro archon even after all these years

[@Mateo_8886]

I don't like to doompost but imo this is one of the worst designed kits we've had so far, and it is suach a shame it was given to an archon

[@SuperKevinho1]

And they waited my most wanted character to do this (I already have few characters I like in Genshin; made the few one mid or with wrong kit or terrible animations😭)

[@lusanao8489]

True, we didnt need another pyro on fielder, especially one you feel like ur missing out on half of their value unless u get her bis team. Natlan has been the region of scuffed set ups and racism (in the sense of forcing u to play them with other natlan chars to be functional).

[@laughingd4518]

Combat Design isn't bad. It's the idea that's bad. Like, she's good but who cares about a new on-field dps basically.

[@SuperKevinho1]

@laughingd4518 for me is bad. Was better give something like Fischl's Burst

[@febbbm2002]

I thought the worst kit (for archon) is Venti’s. And the worst kit overall for a 5* is Sigewinne…

[@matthewsarson6934]

With the amount of people dissapointed she wasn't a support/sub DPS and the people who just think the bike is dumb, i think we are going to see a suprising amount of people pull Citlali considering she is releasing with an Archon.

[@berenwelter8835]

I was gonna get Mavuika but now I’m gonna probably get Citlali instead

[@matthewsarson6934]

@@berenwelter8835 Yeah i was origionally saving on the assumption she would be a must pull support. Since she isn't, Citlali is cuter 😄

[@masajus1]

oh, you mean, insignificant portions of player base, cause rest of players don't care and want cool new characters. but be salty, yor Arle still usable, tho she droped in usage rates even below Hu Tao. RIP Bozo

[@Snowbell247]

I'm one of those players who don't like Mauvika and definitely not pulling her but I'm pretty sure when people see the showcase doing 1 trillion DMG they will pull and also Genshin whales pull anything blindly so that's that

[@tristanmanalo6252]

We all know Mavuika will still sell well. It is the same case with Zhongli, and when the Chinese community didn't like Zhongli -Hoyoverse buff him

[@azix2915]

Man I might as well save and pull for C2 Xilonen instead. Mavuika's so painfully underwhelming it's so sad.

[@marcusvinicius917]

I wanted her for my Mualani c1, but since she suks I planned to actually get Mualani c2 or Xilonen c2, WAAAAY better in my opinion, Sneznhaya is coming soon. Xilonen makes electro very fun, hydro, geo and cryo stronger and she enables so fkn much

[@Sacration]

Same

[@amouramarie]

Yup, I held off on cons for Xilonen to make sure I liked playing her enough for the investment, and I do. I'll save these primos for C1 and C2 Xilonen.

[@marcusvinicius917]

Just a little reminder tho, Skirk is also coming soon

[@sakutaro3musik486]

​@@marcusvinicius917 who cares about shirk she is just another random waifu that looks like she doesn't belong in genshin

[@MonkE1711]

At this point idk if i wanna collect every archon. Like cmon man im tired of pyro on fielders

[@aggil661]

Im thinking of breaking that rule of mine too. Shes hardly better than Xiangling and my Arlecchino is more than capable. Little to no reason for me to pull her. Citlali prob brings more value to an account that already has a good pyro dps.

[@vladdyru]

I will never understand people's obsession with the idea of collecting every archon. Pulling for a worthless lore title instead of character design and gameplay is insane.

[@annoyingperson]

@@vladdyruusually the archons are cool and unique so pulling them is something they’d do anyway, it’s a shame that Mavuika is so boring and limited compared to the others

[@ammarbaagu]

​@@vladdyru considering every archon we have so far have been pretty unique, universal and powerful, it make sense. Venti (the strongest CC we had until he was nerfed), Zhongli (tge strongest shielder), Raiden (strongest ER "buffer"), Nahida (strongest EM buffer and Dendro application) and Furina (one of the strongest General buffer). As of one of Archon collector, I'm kinda whatever with Mavuika. I already have a lot of Pyro Carry and I'm genuinely tired of playing vape or mono pyro (yes i have Klee, Diluc, Lyney and Arlechinno), so another Pyro carry is not what i wanted her to be. The bike definitely didn't help. Hopefully at least it isn't clunky

[@Sucriilhosforever]

@@vladdyru its not the title but what archons usually do, either being very strong at what they do, having great supportive capabilities and being overall strong mavuika is just strong, as every pyro dps limited we have, its boring (and don't get me started on the design and the bike/the bike being used on combat) and its another hold charged attack to do damage character

[@darksplash873]

I clicked on this but for some reason the chasca prerelease started playing and I scrolled through 10 comments before reading something about faruzan and realised I’m on the wrong video huh

[@Macepanda_]

52:08 Okay I'm now convinced that they just hate Kinich lmao

[@soulstealer5625]

Let down by the story, personality, basically everything

[@emptyvoid5272]

His sin is being a male character in post-Fontaine Genshin

[@Macepanda_]

@@soulstealer5625 I heard Ifa is going to be Pyro, let's hope he'll be the actually good support for Kinich and not a weird sidegrade like Mavuika is shaping up to be.

[@H2Ocup]

​@@Macepanda_Ifa will apparently be a 4star.

[@Macepanda_]

@@H2Ocup That's fine, a lot of supports are 4 stars, just means they'll probably need constellations

[@kokocute123]

Mavuika finally frees the real pyro archon for the other Abyss team.

[@nguyentandung42]

NOT

[@michapiasta3072]

@@kokocute123 she isnt Bennet replacment.

[@istr4wberry]

​@@michapiasta3072She's talking about Xiangling.

[@Guttins]

I can't take it anymore.

[@jyusatsu]

There are 2 pyro archon and she only can get rid of one not both lol

[@theneighborskid.]

pyro raiden that’s abit racist if you don’t have natlan 5* supports

[@AlwaysThirstys]

Makes sense due to her being so white that you can't even see the glowing markings on her body. (Just like back in the 1800s)

[@MASTER_AL]

Does it matter tho? As a DPS she will make Raiden look like a 4* with just pyro traveler

[@markusbrendon]

I guess we can say that bennet is the true archon

[@animatedamons470]

There's just too much to dislike. The ugly goofy bike combat. The need to pull other characters to use her efficiently. The fact that her sub dps and main dps roles use different artifacts. The fact that xilonen ended up being more of an archon than her. Her most efficient combat string is just donut spins(xiangling copycat). She doesn't bring anything new to existing teams. The only thing left is to just wait till her trail and see how it actually feels like. If she feels as clunky as Mulanie, at least I have skirk to look forward to. To add,she fills a saturated role while also being burst reliant(outdated design)

[@ahmedmubarak751]

I really hate the notion that all units must be skill reliant or else they are bad . Having everyone being skill reliant just because rhe burst is "outdated" is gonna kill the variety of kits in the game .

[@dongarippo7279]

Hoyo only really likes and cares for lolis and boyband chars, it was expected that mauvika would have issues for us not wanting to pull for her. I was planning on returning to Genshin for her but, as i feared, no need.

[@ahmedmubarak751]

@dongarippo7279 I'm sorry but your comment makes no sense .

[@studiesinflux1304]

56:26 it would be interesting to see if we can make more teams designed as dual carry that have characters use half the buff uptime rather than main + support. The game already had some of this like Tighnari + Yae Miko, so Mavuika could enable more of this type of team.

[@leiah6514]

The problem is most DPS have basically zero utility outside of being on field. Natlan kind of fixed this with cider city and on/off field modes, but most teams rely on consistent reactions and multipliers. Tighnari and Yae work because they are both front-loaded in damage with a reaction that continues without a lot of both auras, but the only 2 reactions like that are quicken and burning and virtually no other DPS front-loads without hydro or pyro.

[@lukee7442]

if the pyro archon isn’t a support, i doubt they will ever release a 5* pyro support

[@0dorox0]

14:18 ah yes, the good old Clorinde Chevreuse Mualani core

[@ffgj5urfh11]

Mualani 💦💦💦💦💦💦☺️

[@wideozludrawz]

editors putting in WORK love the editing at the start alrdy

[@PsychoticLulu]

honestly, i'm glad she isn't an off-field subdps, makes skipping her feel way better at this point - at least for my account - I am so fed up with on field damage dealers clears aren't remotely close enough for me for the extra MV's to matter so she's just another flavor of [insert onfield dps]

[@randomanimeartist]

Same here

[@PsychoticLulu]

@@randomanimeartist xiangling will get replaced one day, stay strong soldier

[@randomanimeartist]

@ oh god please not xiangling

[@trendmadegamer8725]

Honestly. If Mavuika kit was on someone that isn't pyro. I wouldn't feel as bad. Cause pyro way to saturated. I have no motivation to pull her when I already have Arle no matter if she does less DPS then the archon or not. They kinda Fumbled her tbh lol

[@randomanimeartist]

@ arlecchino is my favourite and I am going for c3 this banner

[@agrimes1151]

34:26 Somewhere Zyox screamed "VERMILLION!" as he heard this

[@thelobotomobile]

Fontaine characters = “reliant” on Furina Mavuika = “reliant” on Natlan characters

[@loki_shu]

Wrong, nobody is reliant on Furina. Those who use MH artifact that isn't Fontanian character is the one that need Furina.

[@thelobotomobile]

@loki_shu that's why I used quotation marks. I know no one is actually reliant on her.

[@VVNB-dr9pf]

@@thelobotomobile eh but mavuika really needs natlan characters so she is very reliant

[@thelobotomobile]

@@VVNB-dr9pf yeah I was talking about fontaine characters, not mavuika

[@Forakus]

A 1.0 character completely outshines the pyro archon. Make it make sense...

[@shrimp9618]

OPPA iTS ALWAYS BENNET

[@Apricot_418]

Even the Mavuika pre-release feels longer than the 5.2 interlude quest frfr

[@citlalisthighpaint]

truly the archon of all time

[@Floppyturtle-rt1jw]

You forgot add *worst

[@ace_syo]

I like that this is so detailed. Thanks for the great video :)

[@Zeke1460]

The gigantic disparity between her signature and other options is very annoying. Par for the course in natlan, but it’s really dumb. Newer players who hadn’t even started the game when the mailed flower event happened are just sort of screwed. Yeah they can get tidal shadow, but then she needs constant healing for its effect to activate, which limits team options somewhat. And low refinement 4 stars aren’t great.

[@agiant5715]

Even I as a BP user with spine r5 feel the significant difference but as you have said, natlan dpses have the same difference between their signatures and 2nd 5* options now as older dpses signatures to their 4* ones. I miss the days inwhich i could do same damage to similar build navia on her sig just via other options.

[@azix2915]

BMX is so creative lmfao. You always cook the best terms in Genshin meta 😅

[@Bliss467]

Kinich and xiangling feel made for one another. It feels so fucking good to spin around an enemy counterclockwise on him while her burst is spinning the other direction.

[@SoilworkWT]

Edit whole 1h video Misstype title Gj editor

[@felixstep2066]

Welp, i dont have Xilonen, so, she is gonna be Way worst than normal. I get it, she is so good even without Citlali and Xilonen, but not getting pretty much her highest potential at all its something i dont like. I guess the 50/50 loss is not gonna feel as bad and will save it until i get Xilonen

[@matthewsarson6934]

Xilonen will probably get a rerun during the later Natlan patches since she is so strong/had decent sales. And she isn't Cryo lol

[@meikkuikamuzu5869]

Citlali will prob go in cryo basement after the banner, so I’d grab her

[@GustavoSilvaBM666]

If this helps you, you can user Pyro Traveler with Mavuika DPS Team, as he spends 80 Nightsoul Points to be Mavuika's Battery and can hold the Scroll Set

[@chawzza9766]

She is not “so good” without Citlali and xilonen..

[@maxwellstylez]

great video thank you

[@Dabeast1911Que]

42:15 Really big miss here is that you can literally just use the pryo mc who is going to be pretty dang good as a support and is free for literally everyone. So literally every single player will have a free Natlan unit when they get far enough in the story. This is full stop, going to eliminate the notion that she can't be used in a regular rotation. This can't be under stated.

[@cleod7439]

The pyro mc is extremely bad. He is literally a scroll set bot in mavuika teams (the team would work, but it would be like when we use to run sucrose to give energy to xiao)

[@Dabeast1911Que]

@cleod7439 they are not bad. They would be a solid support option if someone doesn't have natlan units and even give some good support outside of the set with C1. If you are a ftp player with no natlan units they will be great. Not everything has to be top tier limited five star level. They will be better than any of the other 4 stars we've gotten so far and a great battery for Mavuika. Mono pryo with them and kazuha will work wonders and clear abyss no problem and make sure Mavuika can burst every rotation.

[@nigradia]

@@cleod7439 And what's difference from kachina LOL Like putting kachina in a team vs pyro mc. Just think about it. He mentioned kachina but not even pyro mc. This is laughable.

[@josebaltoomarnilson4762]

​@@cleod7439pmc gives 15% buff and decent pyro app, he can actually make mualani vape by himself, for example. He's also the best burgeon trigger in the game, zajef just kinda doesnt like the mc so he wont review them, unfortunately.

[@Dabeast1911Que]

@@nigradia literally all I was saying. Even vs the other natlan 4 stars, pryo MC is still very good to battery Mavikua. Literally my whole point. So by that alone, he has good value for anyone without othe Natlan units.

[@OrochiHdGaming]

Bro mihoyo actually sold us out speaking for every kinich main

[@fivefourtwo4498]

It's so annoying

[@Beard789]

AAAAAND ANOTHER PYRO DPS 🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@hellonyancat666]

I’m just disappointed in her kit.

[@astyutechick7980]

I've gotta say, Zajef's guides are quite smart and excellent. I highly respect the amount of different things he considers and talks through. I really felt this in particular for this pre-release but I think this about basically every one of his vids. Keep it up man! You're doing an insane job! I've been subbed to you for literal years now, and I've watched basically all of your vids even about characters I don't give a fuk about and I'm NEVER pulling. I do wish you'd collab with other cc's more tho. I still remember having a lot of fun watching you and Xlice's collab lol

[@TheStrongestBaka]

I've been having trouble with falling asleep lately and this video helped me with that.

[@Grizzley639]

My only Natlan characters are Ororon and Kachina, so I'm not pulling for Mavuika. Idk but Natlan characters doesn't really pique my interest. The only time I pulled for a Natlan character was Xilonen but i unfortunately lost, but if she reran she's gonna be my only limited 5 star from Natlan

[@amouramarie]

Xilonen's my only Natlan 5-star. :/ Maybe I'll like Ifa.

[@actually_curious4773]

it looks like this will be the case for me as well. Xilonen is the only one I liked both in terms of kit and story. Well I quite like Iansan, her design is older so it looks more coherent and Genshiny that the entire Natlan cast combined, but she's going to have that goofy run so probably nope

[@WomboChombo]

Of course Mavuika’s best team core BMR uses the pyro archon Bennett.

[@ravissary79]

So shes cool... but unlike the last 3 archons, is highly niche and isn't very compatible with very much.

[@saadalrs2337]

I just wanted to say I rly love your content and all the effort you put into these pre release analysis. Thank you Zajef for all your efforts.

[@darktenki5893]

So, this character is worhtless and fodder without Xilonen? Why not just save for Xilonen or Arle or a future unit that is stronger on it's own then?

[@radorei]

The A1 passive uptime is dependent on how many Natlan characters you have in the team. Only Mavuika gives 55%, 2 characters give 83%, and 3 characters give 100%

[@spark9_]

I really don't feel like pulling her.

[@amouramarie]

So, either: a) another onfield pyro dps --- and you must love staring at the motorcycle b) off-field pyro dps and application --- spend primos for a sidegrade to a 4-star I guess I'll just use Pyro traveler, then.

[@dalimelki2971]

for me i was not planning to pull cause i already have neuvillette and arlecchino and let be real mavuika is a selfish character cause she will take Bennett and furina from both my main teams which is BAD.. on top of that with the new info that skirk will be playable aint no way im pulling for anything

[@silverplayer7502]

Just like how you can play neuv hyperbloom and be good, I doubt that she would NEED bennett AND furina to be strong, maybe one of the two will suffice. Also there's only a need for two teams so you have furina+ neuv, then bennettt for mav or xilonen for mav

[@DiamondCityLights]

she doesnt need them…lol

[@Floppyturtle-rt1jw]

Players: we want Bennett/xiangling replacement. Hoyo: J. Jonah Jameson laugh

[@luizaugustorosa1141]

Tbh, I could easily spend another hour listening to Zajef xD

[@AdamB_29]

An interesting thing to now consider: Imaginarium means you might want more good characters over a character's con. Like yes, an arlecchino con may be better, but having 1 more good pyro character option in Imaginarium is just nice to have

[@agiant5715]

Good point but coincidently here funny enough because how IT rng likes to put you in situations inwhich you run the worse possible team comps (i still dread when I had to beat a boss using emilie chevreuse once), so mavuika's c1 making her actually work in a non natlan having team maybe actually be a good choice for future theatre. Fully agree though a 2nd arlecchino pull would be a worse choice for IT than mavuika or citlali even if its a significant dmg and qol buff to her

[@yourfriendly_alien]

it's sad how disappointing is the pyro archon and honestly natlan for me in general. the break they are taking for 6.0 should have been taken before natlan, filling the map in and taking their time to actually make natlan good. instead we got this fiery mess that has greatly disappointed their online fanbase. my interest in genshin has reached an all time low with these patches, staying hopeful that the 6.0 break will be prosperous for the game.

[@galerinha]

My low was at the beginning of sumeru, I even stopped playing Genshin and came back during Fontaine. Natlan is fine, it’s good Mavuika isn’t Bennet-xiangling replacement, I can easily skip her and save primos for furina rerun and skirk debut

[@GlobalFreezeSeries]

I would like to suggest showing off Mavuika's skills visually based on the livestream footage please. Thanks for the great analysis as always

[@Eeveetrix0908]

The problem with the Mavuika - Codex combo is her on-field and off-field flexibility... Ideally, you'd only build her up to 60% crit rate before the 4-pc set effect... That's when you use her as an on-field dps... However, if you want to use her off-field, you're left with 60% crit rate which as q sub-dps, that's low... Yeah ofc you have the option to change her artifacts for that... I only wish they could have added a feature on her claymore that if the wearer is off-field, the crit damage buff becomes crit rate with halved value... In that way, while off-field, she could have 77.5% crit rate without worrying it will overcap when she goes on-field... Or maybe gave her a passive that converts excessive crit rate to crit damage with a ratio of 1:2... That's more simple and effective cause you can freely use all your codex artifacts that rolled into crit rate...

[@rayas09]

You're certainly mistaking Genshin for HSR. Genshin doesn't have that kind of complexity 🙃

[@shwedoo-6035]

Mavuika only stops spending nightsoul points after she uses her ult and stays on field. If you use her as a support, use her ult occasionally and immediately switch off it's not going to be an issue as long as you switch into her every 6 seconds or so. If the team doesn't allow that then yeah, I would agree.

[@heavenlyfebruary]

me, watching this even though im skipping to pull citlali: uh huh i see its like that now i get it i understand

[@keteousubu8167]

Not sure if i agree about mavuika not being a sizeable buff to kinich, when his dps almost reach 100k with mavuika with a half uptime cinder

[@morasiregar1052]

Idk if I even need Mavuika, my Kinnich hits 130k-ish in a team consisting of Dehya, Emilie, Kinnich, and Thoma. With Bennett it can go much more.

[@cleod7439]

Cause already his best team already use xiangling + furina. Mavuika is just an straight increase to the teams that use Emilie and bennet, with mavuika instead of xiangling as the last slot .

[@keteousubu8167]

@@cleod7439 xiangling+furina is only better if the Emilie variant only do 4 skills, but if you do 5 skills which is really easy to do with burning it's just straight up better than the furina version

[@vladdyru]

You can just use PMC for pretty much the same gain unless you want to play a double-carry team with Mavuika, which is basically an insult to Kinich.

[@lycerisrico8943]

Pyro MC is enough, unless your Mavuika dmg from skill are ridiculously high, or you play dual carry comps

[@sirram_e]

basically freeze melt mauv wont work for the same reason that freezemelt hutao doesn't work.. the attack triggers shatter first instead kf melt

[@dndjdsksksn]

Does that happen to Hu Tao CAs? I thought that only happened to claymore characters

[@dellmix16]

words cannot express how much I hate this gameplay... how do they give us this after the capitano cutscene fight?! this is ubertrash... worst archon

[@zeckrincuff3159]

Got hyped just for some goofy Hot Wheels. Immeasurably disappointed.

[@liangyu-u7f]

TEHY COULD NEVER MAKE ME HATE YOU XIANGLING

[@buechertz]

Inferno Rider

[@lam9235]

53:44 now this is just sad I never think of this problem before You're saying that we can only have 20 seconds up time of Cinder City buff on Kinnich if we can't change the enemy? Most of Kinnich strength is on fighting single target bosses For someone who pull Mavuika mostly for this team i'm actually disappointed

[@itsKevix]

so basically, Xiangling still on top true pyro archon

[@mickysaif]

more like it's bennett because xiangling can atleast be replaced by mavuika in many teams but bennett is the goat atk buffer

[@Rey_3293]

XL is probably goat for old players, who have her with broken emblem, c4+ and understand ER funneling. I have been playing for a year. even have the catch but still can't understand the hype of XL. mine is c2 also so maybe that.

[@butter5144]

At least xiangling is bettet than that fucking circle impact

[@ly.radiata]

​@@Rey_3293She can apply pyro every second in AoE , also she can deal really good dmg in AoE which always follows you. Especially in the past there were not many options for off field dmg dealer. However nowadays we have a lot of options for dmg for it so it is normal for you to not realise her hype. But still she is the best pyro applier.

[@Ranamon9132]

@@Rey_3293I mean she does real good damage but her main selling point is her unbelievably quick pyro application and no icd.

[@mikrikbe]

59:06 mono pyro as a support - Wouldn't Lyney be fine staying on-field with her being off-field?

[@alanparmar2797]

You need to be close enough for your off field ring(tap e) to apply def shred and deal dmg, which is harder for bow users

[@nickh4354]

Most of the hour is just reading her skill descriptions

[@chanchaiken5522]

I mean it's us reading it ourselves versus Zajeff doing it for us like a lullaby

[@loyalfan99]

TL;DR MORE CIRCLE IMPACT! yayyyyy