Vaccine Passports: An Alt-Middle Perspective

[@chrissargent3136]

We went from “hey, it’s just two weeks to flatten the curve” to “SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS” in just a year... remember that next time someone calls you paranoid or a conspiracy theorist...

[@kathleengivant-taylor2277]

Disturbing too me

[@mjs28s]

"We went from “hey, it’s just two weeks to flatten the curve” to “SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS” in just a year." "we" aren't there, if you are in the USA. Now, a business (airlines, restaurant, cruise ship, resort, etc) can refuse service to anyone, including people who haven't had the vaccine, but there is no federal law saying that we need to thus we aren't there.

[@miket9563]

@@mjs28s how do HIPPA laws work in that situation? I see your point (no shoes, no shirt, no service) but those aren’t personal health issues. Can a private business even inquire about that sort of thing? I don’t know I’m just a simple caveman.

[@MichaelToddLindamood]

@@miket9563 HIPPA applies only to a healthcare providers, healthcare clearing houses and health plans. It says that a healthcare provider cannot provide private health information to a third party without the consent of the patient. It has nothing to do with asking someone about their health. That is perfectly legal, it is then up to the person being asked if they want to give out that information.

[@1165mac]

You're right, Chris! We have a vaccine, which may have been proven to work in the short term, but there is absolutely no evidence of its effectiveness or safety over the long-term. Yet, here we are with the great push for Vaccine Passports already! Red Flags!!!

[@TTony-tu6dm]

The goalposts continue to be moved. If the most vulnerable are vaccinated, why do the young people, who we know are generally unaffected by the virus, still have to be “controlled “? It’s time to let people manage their own risk. And vaccine passports are blatantly discriminatory

[@GramsJams]

There’s a huge difference between *would you like to* and *you MUST ,or else*.

[@marcosvazquez8964]

I know

[@iloveplasticbottles]

You can take this vaccine and be a functioning member of society, or you can choose not to and not be a functioning member of society. The choice is still there, you're just mad that there are consequences to stupidity.

[@terjeoseberg990]

I suppose that after everyone is vaccinated, they should just infect everyone who refuses with Covid so we can get this over with.

[@Hal-fz1em]

@@iloveplasticbottles I think people who take the vaccine should not be allowed to leave home until we understand the long term effects. like 10 years.

[@Hal-fz1em]

@@terjeoseberg990 Or we just open up education camps. Right?

[@davidfinney2612]

Agree 100%. Focus on getting everyone vaccinated that wants to be, then see where we’re at. Discussing vaccine passports prematurely is just creating division that will likely turn out to be 100% unnecessary. Then again...there is a group of people in this country that thrive when they pit Americans against their fellow citizens. It starts with ‘P’ and rhymes with -oliticians.

[@suras8984]

I dont think its premature in terms of its going to get established.There already incentives in schools for students to come together to create them months ago. They already implemented this passport in Israel and there have been huge protests over there. And don't forget who else benefits from pitting people against each other. Facebook, youtube, twitter etc.

[@jacc5844]

Also, the current Covid vaccines on the market (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, etc) are still only approved for emergency use by the FDA. These inoculation products haven’t passed a higher bar by the FDA, so it’s premature to assert the necessity of vaccine passports.

[@suras8984]

@@KM-zn3lx In Canada we they have already designated our first smart cities which will be run on the 5G network. Why didn't they just tell us their plans for wanting to install 5G. Our first smart city (Kelowna BC) is trialling the new technology to tackle transportation/traffic. It will use Lidar technology and Artificial Intelligence installed at traffic lights. Im sure they will eventually use this to track people.

[@mariajoannou9936]

Im getting what you’re saying, but unfortunately, the vaccine wasn’t made mandatory, not because the risk is not high enough, but because of human rights, and that if someone was to die or be ill from the vaccine, there would be law suits left right and centre. But what about the rights and freedom of those who’ve been vaccinated? We still have to take precautions regards the spread of infection, to those who are not vaccinated, because it’s yet to be proven that we can’t still pass it on, otherwise if we all had the jab (or majority of us did,) there wouldn’t be the need for the precautions, and only those who can’t be vaccinated, need be careful. So it’s a natural turn of events, that those choosing not to be vaccinated, will find it harder, feeling divided. I agree that the younger generation needed to be vaccinated alongside the vulnerable, but I also believe there may not be enough people to administer the vaccine fast enough. Masking up and social distancing will be here for quite some time, I fear. Regards travel and socializing in restaurants bars and cafes, I think the acceptance of a negative Covid test, is not unreasonable as rapid and PCR tests are readily available, so to ask this of people yet to be vaccinated or don’t want to be, should be the norm, alongside the social distancing, if only for some normality. It will be at least another 8 months to a year, before those wanting, have their jabs, and I believe that after that, it’s those who can’t, or won’t have the jab should be the ones to take the precautions. As for vaccine passports or documents, greece has already implemented these, carrying a barcode, to cross referencing with ID. If businesses are to pick up again then I don’t see why this can’t work. Negative testing, alongside ID, with some social distancing in bars cafes and Restaurants should be acceptable. Last year in Greece, this worked well, with no more than 4 to a table, or 6 of the same bubble of family. It’s become about compliance. Testing and vaccines, are essential and it won’t be about feeling divided, they just need to be done.

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@suras8984 Yikes. Where have I been? I'm in Vancouver and haven't heard about this...

[@carnivoreRon]

If a covid passport, then why not a flu passport???? Mumps, measles? Polio passport??? Why let a crisis go to waste? Very much a political position mandating a passport.

[@thor9563]

Yeah, then they'll want us to have a DRIVER'Z LICENSE!! A License to get married! To Teach!!! To sell Insurance! Real Estate! CDL!! What's this world coming to!!!

[@alantasbler4581]

We already have a passport of sorts for mumps and measles. I believe every single state requires vaccinations for these to attend public school.

[@15heartz]

After the passport it's chipping people 😈

[@manuelsilva1580]

@@thor9563 Yeah, those are some shit comparisons there god of thunder.

[@angiescorner9549]

@@thor9563 I really don’t think you can equate it . And btw weird you need a ID for all those things but not to vote? Sus

[@TheAuntMar-USA]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this idea of passports ... A year ago, the original focus was “we don’t want to overwhelm our hospitals” ... We understood early on, from the data we already had, that the very elderly and those who were unhealthy with weakened immune systems were at most risk of serious illness and death. We knew, early on, who would be most likely to need hospital care, and because we all wanted to help protect the vulnerable, we agreed with the original “15 days to stop spread” - we agreed with our governments’ ordering businesses to be shutdown or severely restricted in their operations ... And then our governments told us 15 days wasn’t enough - we all were told to “stay home most of the time, don’t eat in restaurants, don’t go to theaters or sporting events, etc, etc - and wear a mask everywhere” ... They told us the goal was to not overwhelm our hospitals and I was 100% on board and for a year, I did my part to stay home most of the time and wear the mask when out and about. I agreed to the restrictions while I prayed for the quick development of vaccines - needed to protect the vulnerable. Now that we have vaccines “authorized for emergency use during a pandemic” the focus needs to stay on getting vaccines to the most vulnerable - not to little children and those who are younger and healthy who we know statistically are not going to suffer serious illness (as data shows) - they are NOT going to overwhelm our hospitals if and when exposed to this virus ... instead they will help create immunity. After a couple months of economically devastating shutdowns and restrictions I felt we should focus on encouraging the vulnerable to stay home most of the time and away from others, until there’s a vaccine, and let the rest of the population who were healthy engage in living life. I wanted to stay focused on not overwhelming hospitals and saving lives while also letting the strong and healthy freely live their lives ... I agreed with those states that were doing this and lifting restrictions and we see now they were right to do this as the states that remained more restricted did no better and in some cases worse in controlling the spread of the virus. So yes, let’s please now focus on getting vaccines to the elderly and unhealthy ♥️ Here we are, a year later, and we have a miracle in that we have these experimental vaccines that are working to prevent serious illness and death in the elderly and unhealthy - it makes sense for this high risk group to be the ones to get vaccinated first and also makes sense for them to stay home most of the time until they can be fully vaccinated. ... the vulnerable need to be advised and strongly encouraged to get a Covid shot as these are now being distributed. It seems to me there is no need for a “passport” Those who are unhealthy and fully vaccinated have greatly reduced their risk of a serious illness from this virus and the healthy who are not vaccinated, they are also not at risk of a serious illness or needing hospital care. Those who are healthy, and especially those of us who’ve already been exposed and did NOT suffer serious illness and now have natural antibodies, we should NOT need to “prove” we are “protected” - we already know we are unlikely to need hospital care and will not overwhelm our hospitals if we are exposed to the virus. The focus needs to stay on advising “the vulnerable” to get one of these vaccines authorized for “emergency use” and let the younger and the healthy live free. The idea that people want government to create a passport in order for people to engage freely in living life is disturbing for many reasons ... not least of all is the likelihood that it would be extremely costly and very likely to be unwieldy, but most disturbing is the very idea of government attempting to control the coming and going of 330 million people - this does go against my liberty loving psyche. Plus I’m hearing this virus is likely to remain with us for years to come, like the flus, and it’s likely annual shots will be needed for the vulnerable. So yes, let’s please stay focused on those most vulnerable - but anyone who wants to get these shots should have access to them if they want them. But most important, in the end, this decision to be vaccinated or not, must remain a personal choice. God bless you.

[@harryposner7584]

Well said. Totally agree. But too much common sense here for governments who are entranced by their ability to control us. No no no to vaxxports!

[@paddykiernanmusic]

Really well said.

[@Ablemaung]

The way you described how your attitude toward all of this changes overtime from compliance to questioning whether all of this is ethical is exactly how I went through. I followed the rules and the guidance but 1 year later, I feel like we are loosing site of what's really important.

[@ppppwned]

Excellent comment. Truth.

[@stephanied4863]

Aunt Mar i absolutely agree with every word you said!

[@estradamurcielgo175]

"two weeks to flatten the curve" sure became "show me your papers" pretty quick, no?

[@estradamurcielgo175]

@@flagmichael My money for illegals?

[@darthjarjarbinks8953]

@@belvis5135 That’s everyone’s first mistake is discrediting people as “conspiracy theorists”. If people even knew how the term came about, they would probably realize that it was practically designed to refer to real conspiracies that are not theoretical but factual as false so that the truth wouldn’t come out.

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@belvis5135 Welcome aboard. ;)

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@darthjarjarbinks8953 I believe it was a term created by the CIA (?) to cast doubt and hate towards people who were getting educated on diff matters - can't have that!

[@darthjarjarbinks8953]

@@thatswhatisaidCA You are correct. It started to really be used to discredit those questioning the JFK assassination.

[@thesuperdingos]

BillGates was talking about this a year ago that we’d need digital certs proving we have the shots to go anywhere. This has been in play for a while now. Technocrats get all of your information and data, and total control of your life.

[@billybobs1705]

@@maryfranklin7034 bill gates of hell

[@paddykiernanmusic]

He's also warned recently of the possibility of another pandemic in the future.

[@zephsmith3499]

Well, to be fair, the idea of having some sort of record of vaccination to show is pretty obvious (we have long done that for travel to other countries, and doing it digitally is hardly a new concept today), so for somebody who has worked a lot on conventional vaccination programs to discuss that a year ago is not very strong evidence of anything. That doesn't mean that technocrats are NOT trying to get all your data - they are. I'm only responding about what we can and cannot infer from that one specific issue.

[@flashgordon6238]

"Show me your papers" says it all.

[@detta1290]

Vaccine passports are a horrible idea.

[@vegetableautopsy3551]

Yeah, that's going to backfire.

[@hazelnut0127]

@@flagmichaelJust no.

[@davebrowning9290]

I have a friend whose wife is sick enough that she cannot be vaccinated. Should we force her to spend the rest of her life at home? When the real risk because of her being unvaccinated is that she will get Covid-19 rather than give it to someone who can be vaccinated. I think whether she goes out or stays home should be her decision.

[@davebrowning9290]

Let me add I'm planning on getting vaccinated to reduce the risk to her.

[@suras8984]

@@davebrowning9290 Im sure they will allow doctors to give some type of medical exemption. It is already a part of the mainstream provax argument that getting vaccinated protects the immunocompromised who cant get vaccinated.

[@suras8984]

@@HolisticLifeUnscripted wowwww I’m so sorry. I’m actually shocked. In Canada in the news they were telling people who had history of that and allergies to selfish or extreme allergies to not get the shot.

[@hazelnut0127]

@@davebrowning9290 you can still spread it

[@hazelnut0127]

@@flagmichael People have always been “at risk” . It’s part of life. You aren’t guaranteed not to catch something

[@gingerinthedesertcreations]

Most of my friends are in healthcare and we collectively won't stop bellyaching about being fully vaccinated and still having to wear masks around each other. It all just feels ridiculous a this point.

[@jacc5844]

It’s so odd isn’t it!

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@jacc5844 Odd? It shows what's coming for the rest of society. Common sense must rule!

[@buckcampbell4292]

Restaurants and Bars are full here already....without a vaccine passport.

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Covid-19 told me to tell those restaurants and bars that he'll be stopping by

[@jf4814]

@@iloveplasticbottles COVID19 prefers private home gatherings

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

Where is "here"?

[@rachellelewis9389]

@@iloveplasticbottles it already has stopped by and it will continue to!

[@ktheredfrog]

@@thatswhatisaidCA I don't know where this person is, here in Texas everything can open to full, and the numbers are still dropping.

[@WesleyWalker007]

Florida Governor is going to sign a executives order not allowing public or private businesses from being able to ask for vaccine passports.

[@dystoniaify]

I lost my walking ability and I'm now crippled and mostly bedridden due to the gym shutdowns and not getting treatment for any brain damage induced movement disorders. I'm done with this life. Humanity will realize they hurt more people than they helped all for corporate profits. Bye

[@eliseloyacanoperl5032]

I am so sorry. I am hoping (but not hopeful) that there will be a Nurenberg-style trial against the monsters that did this to you and so many.

[@ussncc1701d]

This was a very thoughtful take. I would add that mandating vaccine passports to "open up" is only based on the premise that lockdowns *work.* More and more data is proving this is not the case. The way to open up is... to open up. Passports are not the key; willing politicians are.

[@LilCraftyNook]

Boom!!🙌🏻

[@ballboys607]

Imagine if local governments actually had infrastructure set up to roll vaccines out faster instead of imposing pointless mass lockdowns and/or doing nothing at all. Wouldn't that be a sight.

[@JoshDTech]

I wish they did nothing nothing works better.

[@schmim1]

@@JoshDTech you are dangerous.

[@lisawillis3]

I’ve said from the beginning that lockdowns do not work, I’m not an expert, just an average and educated person who thought this was causing more harm than good.

[@BeingMeRV]

Nope. I’m not complying. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. I guess I’ll never travel again. Oh well.

[@campion7038]

New technology created from aborted baby tissue. I don't need it.

[@BeingMeRV]

@Cole S I was in the military. I am well aware. I’ve had alllll kinds of immunizations and I’m done. I’m tired of being used as a guinea pig.

[@babettejennichan9228]

A vaccine passport sounds kind of crazy now

[@thor9563]

@@flagmichael 'NO SMOKING AT THIS LUNCH COUNTER!!!' - Jim Crow for smoking fools???

[@danielkelly8980]

@@flagmichael Exactly, also what about the vaccine certificates that are required to prove you have had vaccines to enter and leave some countires.

[@huachuca85616]

I'm in agreement with you. As a Healthcare provider we encourage everyone to get the Flu for much the same reasoning of decreased hospitalization and decrease death. People hear the facts and some receive the vaccine. We don’t discriminate against those who don't get the.vaccine and approx 80,000 people die each year from the flu or flu related problems. I think people need to think for themselves and decide. They first must be able to be vaccinated My Dad was military and we had to get a myriad of vaccines in order to travel. One was small pox which is not given anymore because the risk has dramatically reduced. Just do what's best for you and your family because in the end it should be a choice, not a mandate.

[@thor9563]

Sounds nice and everything, buttt...people who catch covid from spreaders (mostly non-vaccine types) don't CHOOSE to get the bug - especially if they have deadly health issues like diabetes, down syndrome, older age, obesity, heart/lung problems or imprisoned in a nursing home. Yes, these people are as smart as you are, and THINK FOR THEMSELVES and decide AGAINST getting Covid from others. And please don't say, 'Just make them get vaccinated', OK? I tend to think we have all become 'freedom freaks' (narcissists). We should consider becoming FREESPONSIBLE (my new word), or truly Free.

[@thor9563]

@Denise Skinner Wow. Denise you have communicated a mouth full here. You have so, so much educating to do to the entire world that is campaigning to save us all and get us back together safely. I have not seen any figures to support lethal side effects of the vaccines in more than a few out of tens of millions of injections. Consider the risk/benefits of each choice and you will find that vaccination wins tens of millions to one. Take care!

[@traceym9910]

It’s an awful idea! It’s a slippery slope to other things.

[@girlpharm]

If there are vaccine passports then there better be every vaccine on there that you are supposed to have from birth till now. There are many people today who haven't had any vaccines whatsoever because their parents were antivaxxers. There are people who cannot get vaccines because of underlying conditions or serious reactions. I believe it's a personal choice.

[@jamespalmer743]

When the pharmaceutical industry gives up their immunity from being sued for vaccine injuries, I might consider being vaccinated.

[@jamespalmer743]

@@flagmichael You do your homework. You have obviously drank the koolaid when it comes to mRNA gene therapy. This is not a vaccine by medical definition. Previous animal studies performed several years ago on mRNA gene therapy resulted in death to the majority of the study animals due to immune system cytokines storm. Maybe you shouldn’t take comments so seriously and assume someone knows little about gene manipulation and virology. My comment was only meant to show the pharmaceutical companies will never stand behind these so-called vaccines. Weather I get one of the mRNA jabs or not is my choice just as it is your choice. Maybe if you do some real research, you would like to have a discussion about the spike protein produced in human cells and the different tissue types this spike protein is able to enter. More research is forthcoming on the possible detrimental effects. Or, talk about the blood clots being caused byAstraZenicas current jab.

[@hazelnut0127]

@@jamespalmer743 Thank you. So many gullible people.

[@lunacharles7821]

@@jamespalmer743 what is research to you? Facebook posts? Alternative medicine websites? Anti-vaccine websites from the likes of Andrew Wakefield, RFK, etc.?

[@lunacharles7821]

@@jamespalmer743 you are seriously referring to a Facebook post by an individual named Andy Pears? LOL

[@jamespalmer743]

@@lunacharles7821 I don’t know what posts you are referring to on Facebook. Not that I need justification, but go to PubMed and take a look at mRNA Animal Safety Studies. I’m not on here to convince anybody of anything. You can form your beliefs any way you want. My beliefs are based on information I gleaned from actual clinical studies.

[@hembrel]

I really love looking at topics this way. Ever since I turned alt-middle or whatever you want to call it, much of my anger and frustration towards other people and things has gone away.

[@loraemerkle]

Dr.Z- I really appreciate how you are looking at this from multiple angles. When I see the term “passport,” it makes me think that one would be severely limited on what they can do if they are not vaccinated. There were a couple of things I hoped you would have addressed: 1. Since these are experimental vaccines, wouldn’t a passport go against the Nuremberg Code? How do we weigh the risk vs the benefit? 2. Is asking people for proof of vaccination or lack of a HIPAA violation? 3. What about people who can’t receive the vaccine due to medical contraindication or religious beliefs? This group of individuals would be subjected to constant testing, which is a huge waste of resources.

[@loraemerkle]

@@flagmichaelYes and no... per the FDA, “The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine, in that a vaccine available under an EUA is not approved.” Some insurance companies deem it experimental, probably based off of this info from the FDA site.

[@erickferret4238]

I’m not able to answer your 1st question but for your 2nd, no it doesn’t. HIPPA relates primarily to your DOCTOR putting out your information. There are exceptions in regard to public health such as schools asking for your vaccination record and there already are vaccination passport/records you need to go to certain foreign countries. So the vaccine passport wouldn’t be a novel thing. And for the 3rd, those who are immune compromised or don’t want to take the vaccine would likely have to show repeated testing results for travel/certain events; however, as time goes on, we may have to fear that you’ll have to start paying for cov tests. Nowadays, the govt does but there’s no telling where that bill may go in the next couple of months

[@campion7038]

There has been no ethical medical informed consent. People are participating in an uncontrolled (no control group) clinical trial without proper knowledge that this is a never before tried on humans gene therapy. Moderna stands for mRNA. RNA programs the cells to make specific proteins. How long will the cells make these proteins? Will booster vaccines be required every 6 months to a year? NO ONE KNOWS!

[@pennyshaw3976]

Don’t you think that if you keeled over somewhere and we’re rushed to the hospital it would be useful to know which vaccine you had had, how many shots and when? Or how about that you hadn’t been vaccinated and didn’t want to be?

[@Rickpa]

I love the way ZDoggMD promotes empathy and understanding for both sides of our political divide.

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

We all want the same thing; to be safe and healthy. There needs to be calm discussion, sharing, learning, research and compassion. If people yell at each other, call each other "idiots", the other party shuts down and won't listen. Food for thought, people.

[@hazelnut0127]

@@thatswhatisaidCA You never give up freedoms for false safety

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@hazelnut0127 Amen to that.

[@Vanessa-jy4ky]

He is an absolute tool. Why on earth do young, healthy people require an experimental vaccine when their risk of becoming seriously ill or dying from this virus is negligible? What are the long term health effects of this vaccine? Is it wise to jab billions of healthy, young people with vaccines still in their trial periods.

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@Vanessa-jy4ky Right on.

[@Superduper666]

Vaccine passport can have things added onto it. They won’t be happy with just vaccine info in the passport. It’ll be so much more.

[@devonmackify]

Well, we don't even know how long any vaccine will remain effective. Will the efficacy only last 6 months ? A year ? Basically, will we need booster shots ? Will future variants render the current ones ineffective ? It is much too early in the game to come up with vaccine passports. It is an issue in Europe because they have open borders within the EU. We need more data on the vaccines before we even go there.

[@AMarie_USA]

Thank you! We do not have enough data, nor any long term data to even consider making these mandatory. Let alone that fact that they are not even FDA-approved. Rational thought seems to fall by the wayside these days, caving in to public societal pressure and "what the tv box thing tells me to do." smh

[@purpledol8455]

Thank you!!! This is exactly what I’ve been thinking!

[@xXxSapphir3xXx]

I really dislike this idea. I'd describe my self in this scenario as a fully vaccinated, more liberal, than not human and this bothers me so much! Not taking equity, fairness, freedoms, etc into account, but rather my right to have my health information, which includes vaccines, protected. It's none of anyone else's business, especially not someone at a bar, restaurant or any other establishments business. Could I see this for things like cruise ships and entry into other countries, yes, just like we want those traveling here to be tested. We don't have a "right" to enter others countries and should we choose to, we live by their rules while there. With that said, there's no way I'll ever be okay being told to show papers to get into Florida or NYC, even after everyone who wants to be vaccinated is!

[@RandomGuy-ox1lo]

What is the point of even getting a vaccine if you are young and healthy? I'm in my 20s, had covid and was totally fine. Why do I need the vaccine? Wouldn't it be smarter for me to wait and see its efficacy, side effects, long term effects, etc.? Have you made a video on this? I'd love to hear your opinion on it.

[@patty-cf7jj]

He’s stated his opinion on this many times, and I don’t agree with him. He’s such a huge proponent of this vaccine for everyone, all ages, whether you the virus it or not, etc. He says there’s no safety issues, no reason to worry about long term effects, and side effects are rare and only would happen within 30 minutes. To be honest, I’m not sure why I still watch him. If someone is against the vaccine, he lumps them all into crazy, anti-vaxxers who are listening to wacky, conspiracy theorists.

[@PainterP]

It's tough as someone who doesn't care one way or the other about receiving the vaccine feeling coerced into getting it if I want life to go back to "normal".

[@PainterP]

8:00 Agree Agree Agree Thanks ZDogg for sharing across the spectrum.

[@PainterP]

@@flagmichael You seem to have good intentions with your comment. I really don't know how else to say that it's never that simple. It was 2 weeks at home, then a month, then no masks, then masks, then 2 masks, then vaccine, then vaccine and masks. See what I'm saying. It's hard to give an inch without them taking a mile.

[@johns8620]

If the benefits were self evident, there would be no need for this level of coercion. But with 7400 rushed to the ER and 1200 dead from These " safe and effective " shots, I'll wait.

[@tekknorat]

It's a good thing you put word "normal" into quotation marks.

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

If the vaccines work so well, why would people be afraid of people not vaxxed?

[@thatswhatisaidCA]

@@flagmichael Good food for thought and a respectful discussion for sure.

[@martynobs6970]

This WILL lead to tremendous cultural instability and desperation. It establishes an US vs THEM scenario. This is Apartheid all over again. This is how Rome crumbled...it rotted from the inside out.

[@jankelsey9738]

Zdog, I wish you would have some African American physicians on to help dispel this over simplistic myth regarding the reasons for blacks vaccine hesitancy. I've seen numerous interviews with AA physicians and researchers who indicated that this hesitancy is more about transportation, finance, health insurance access, communication/relatable abilities of the physician educator, as well as access. Excellent video overall. I'm a fan. Keep representing for super thoughtful, science loving, spiritually minded, healthcare providers!

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Unfortunately though, because of past unethical human trials on african populations, there really is a vaccine hesitancy in the african american community. Of course it's not as high as it is with Karens (because everyone that isn't a Karen has a brain).

[@jankelsey9738]

@@iloveplasticbottles absolutely this is a real historical trauma passed down through many generations of AAs, however this aspect of hesitancy, as well as other aspects, has been shown to be consistently overcome by AA healthcare workers, or other non-condecending essentializing healthcare workers. Personally I've talked many AAs & a few Hispanics-with my less then perfect medical Spanish, into accepting vaccinations.

[@paulo7200]

@@iloveplasticbottles African Americans are also more open to skeptical / alternative views of the vaccine. There is no dispute that these vaccines have skipped animal trials, and have been approved in 8 months vs the normal approval period of 5+ years. Also, Pharma companies are immune from product liability lawsuits for vaccines that are shown to have caused harm later. So, I think it's legitimate for younger people to question the risk vs reward of taking the vaccine.

[@suras8984]

@@jankelsey9738 I was actually just thinking about this. Im Canadian but the gov and healthcare here has done a number on the Indigenous population. They even stole babies from indigenous mothers up until the 80s and placed them up for adoption to white families. Poisoned the water by their reserves. In the 60s or 70s I believe the gov sent some on a mission to transport this toxic metal from one place to another but did not tell them it was toxic and they all got cancer. The things Ive read I don't trust the government myself. To know what they have been capable of people should be fighting the gov from obtaining this type of power over us.

[@sonur5080]

You think Gates funding sterilizing vax in Africa is not part of the *hesitancy*?...😅😅

[@jayhall1454]

Thank you, thank you, and THANK YOU. You are the first person I have heard to describe those who lean conservative in reasonable and sensible manner. Thank you for refraining from the "knuckle-dragging" "neanderthals" description for people who just see things differently than those on the left. Thank you for validating people's views on both sides while still getting your point across. We need more and more people who are towards the middle to do this -- to return to sane dialog about issues like this. Hating and "dog-piling" solve NOTHING. What a breath of fresh air. You earned my subscription today, Maybe - just maybe - there is hope.

[@winbri5]

Actually we need more people to take a stand for health freedom and health which doesn't come from Pharma. Our handlers have changed the situation so that people accept a passport instead of marking those who do not vaccinate. They know the dupes will accept it but it will have the same outcome Medical apartheid.

[@martynjukes482]

Handing over these medical documents might just be the beginning to a social credit score system. Once governments have power they struggle to let it go.

[@Barbara662-b4u]

So when is someone going to tell you what you can and cannot eat. Where you can live or not live. I support and I always will freedom to choice for yourselves.

[@espmonaco]

Will you debate Geert Vanden Bossche? Still waiting...

[@yellowsnowman9157]

Have your head of Roe v Wade? Perhaps you've heard of the supreme court ruling?! The supreme court ruled during that case that people have a right to privacy, specifically medical privacy. The medical passport is an absurd premise and violates your rights.

[@Jonesey1776]

What about those that have had the virus? Why are we left out? You have had doctors on your shows saying we are possibly even better off with natural immunity.

[@Jonesey1776]

BTW I love the work you are doing and enjoy your talks!!

[@patty-cf7jj]

It will take a hell of a lot to convince me that I still need a vaccine although I had the virus. All they say is that they don’t know how long immunity lasts. I don’t buy it. They don’t know how long immunity lasts with the vaccine as well.

[@angelahare9472]

I would imagine those shows were before the vaccine came out that everyone must have because it's safe and effective and we don't know if you will turn into a frog or drop dead in a year or two maybe 10.But we do know you must have the vaccine even if you have had Covid.

[@ajyyoung3263]

What about those of us who have had Covid? And test positive for antibodies??? Can we use our hospital bill as proof?!?!

[@suras8984]

You could probably use it for work when they start pressuring workers to get it.

[@asteelcup859]

The EU plans to do that - a green certificate on the basis of a vaccination, or a negative test, or after contracting covid 19 and showing antibodies. I don't know where you live though.

[@zaurakdigis]

Some of variants can reinfect and vaccination appears to give better protection. Everyone I know that has been infected are getting the vaccine.

[@dystoniaify]

No,that doesn't enrich big pharma

[@angelahare9472]

Medical records you can go to the hospital to get those they keep the records.I went to get the paperwork from the clinic I was tested at this passed week.As for the reinfection thing.Do some online research.The longer out we go the more they are finding better long lasting immunity after infections.

[@eirik9073]

I visited this restaurant in Bergen, Norway. I commented to my gf that i wouldn't sit in a cage, because the booths had walls around it of plexiglass. So we went to the window seats, but by that time two independent men came over to me and they were so angry at me for that comment and they forced me out of the restaurant. This is unheard of in my society. I call this fascism. Dont ask questions, have no opinions. Soldierant fascists is what I would call them if I wasn't a person who's able to remain calm.

[@ianhawthorne4609]

So is it also fascism for govt to make laws saying a restaurant owner can’t refuse customers to their own private business who don’t have proof of vaccination.

[@eirik9073]

@@ianhawthorne4609 Well, we don't have these laws...

[@ianhawthorne4609]

@E H actually in Florida the governor is planning these very laws, to prevent restaurant owners from restricting customers who have not been vaccinated. Is that fascism?

[@eirik9073]

@@ianhawthorne4609 Yes. Populism, corporatism, economics of fascism. It's all about population control. A lot which is happening now is resembling what happened in Weimar Republic in the 1920s.

[@ianhawthorne4609]

@E H so you neither know what fascism or Weimar Republic was.

[@GODolution]

The conspiracy theorists were talking about this a year ago.....you’re catching up.

[@TruckThisGarage]

Ya and they were laughed at. Now here we are over a year later and it’s in the MSM. 🤔 hmm

[@danielkelly8980]

@@TruckThisGarage Conspiracy theorist were saying that there are microchips in the vaccines. Vaccine passports already exist, so it was pretty obviously they were going to be used for an extremely contagious disease.

[@kacee6523]

And oops, they’re right again so everybody better go look at what they’re talking about now that’s coming so they know what their reality will be in a few more years...

[@Hgh38]

I never heard about vaccine certificates till last month

[@halledaniel3841]

It’s giving Big Brother vibes

[@krystalemerson3375]

It absolutely is

[@StephenTack]

Moral taste buds... The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion Book by Jonathan Haidt

[@peterheyn1036]

Absolutely. Good for him to have obviously read it. I wish more would.

[@alteredendeavor]

Also, are you going to mandate businesses to implement this? You're removing the choice again.

[@tomjohnson4747]

Well, the problem is rather would we outlaw vaccination passports for businesses...

[@ballboys607]

Let's imagine a world where businesses aren't forced to enforce mask mandates. Restaurants who voluntarily enforce mask restrictions in their own restaurants face harassment and threats from people in the community, so the restaurant owners are being punished despite the freedom they're presumed to have. That world is called Texas, by the way.

[@tomjohnson4747]

@@ballboys607 And many people would prefer Texas over California. You can still choose where to live, can't you?

[@iloveplasticbottles]

How is he mandating anything?

[@iloveplasticbottles]

@@tomjohnson4747 that's dotarded

[@kennethhodge7953]

I have two sisters-in-law who live in California and both seem not to realize that the bulk of the pandemic has come and gone already.

[@keisi1574]

@@flagmichael Why do you vaccine pushers VERY RARELY promote personal health? And the value and importance of personal health?

[@kennethhodge7953]

@@flagmichael "get a good grip." Yeah, that's Exactly the type of precision that the intelligent population who follow Dr Z want to hear.

[@keving9111]

My question is, does this in anyway violate HIPAA?

[@alexzabala2154]

Of course it does...

[@heatherbryson3776]

No. Because the patient is the one disclosing the information. HIPAA applies only to Covered Entities - hospitals, insurance companies, Healthcare providers, and their contractors ... the patients themselves are not covered entities under that Law.

[@nicolelakra]

Your health information is private information. It is not about HIPPA. It is about civil rights and privacy. Think of this in terms of HIV+ or AIDS patients entering a gym, swimming pool or nightclub. Think of restaurant owners not allowing people with celiacs disease into their restaurant because they don’t want to be held liable. Just because COVID is a modern threat to the lives of a particular group of human beings does not mean another group of human beings should have limited rights. To think so is backwards logic. Protect the people who need/want it. Move on people.

[@nickkoehn8037]

I’d like to table the covid vaccine passport idea for a few months. We should spend the next few months encouraging vaccination as much as possible to the hesitant and the resistant individuals. Once demand for vaccination dries up, we should then reassess the prevalence of COVID. I suspect if we did that, the passport idea might not even be necessary because we will have ~70% voluntarily vaccinated and more with prior infections, which might be adequate for herd immunity.

[@thor9563]

The 'NOT'ers - aren't they like welfare parasites? "I'm against vaccines...but...let EVERYONE ELSE get theirs, then it will be safe... for ME." (I realize welfare is for legitimate purposes - I only refer to the 'welfare parasites').

[@campion7038]

No one can force someone to be jabbed against their will. That is assault. Denying unvaccinated people their right to shop, eat, put gas in the car, and work--how is that not the same as killing them?

[@S27-y8e]

Personally I don’t think we need a passport. These vaccines are so effective at preventing any kind of serious illness and people are extremely unlikely to spread the virus once they have been vaccinated. For those reasons I think vaccinated people can go out in public without much fear even if they are around unvaccinated people

[@kevinhartwell3568]

My body my choice

[@alantasbler4581]

I think for my body I'll drink a fifth of gin and go for a spin on the road. My choice.

[@finalbyrnn1752]

I refuse to wear a yellow star!!!

[@SabarKoA]

It is always amazing, to hear someone speak from the center. Someone who rationally looks at both sides of a debate with compassion and thoughtfulness, then forms a reasonable opinion.

[@frankdayton731]

Just because someone is speaking from the center, doesn't mean that they're being "rational." What's the rational centrist position regarding the holocaust, or deporting Jews from Nazi Germany?

[@racheli2598]

@@frankdayton731 I agree. It seems as those speaking from the “center” are afraid to take a position and ruffle anyone’s feathers for fear of being criticized.

[@harryposner7584]

He likes to come across like he's speaking from the rational centre, but in fact he's much more on the side of the mainstream narrative, that comes through in his statements about the efficacy of vaccination. We're already seeing the disconnect between Big Pharma's messaging re: these 'vaccines' (and he makes no distinction between an actual vaccine like AstraZeneca and the experimental genome therapy treatments represented by Moderna an Pfizer), and the actual on the ground side effects and other issues. His solution? Get vaccinated. There will be at least 30% of the population that will not be taking the 'vaccines'. What happens to these people? Shut out of society, out of their lives? To me, it's a no-brainer. Vaxxports are a crime against freedom and humanity and must be fought against with everything we have.

[@racheli2598]

@@harryposner7584 I’m with you! These vaccines are determined “ safe and effective” from the same companies profiting from them and yet have no liability 🤔so that doesn’t lend itself to trust, they are an extremely biased party who’s not even held accountable.

[@andreastarks2780]

I heard his alt center perspective and thought it leaned fairly conservative and I appreciate that he was fairly describing the conservative point of view That is rare

[@1234bbruce]

I am a coronavirus survivor. I feel that my antibodies will probably provide me with immunity for a long time. I'm 74 years old and take all the necessary steps to keep my immune system strong. Zinc, D,C, B12 etc. I watch many KZbin experts that say antibodies stay for a long time. Mine are still good after 15 months. I should not have to have a vaccine passport. No one talks about my situation.

[@RawberryKitchen]

We should ALWAYS have a choice. If we want to develop our immune system without poison, that should be a choice.

[@lindaerickson545]

Let's not talk this to death. There should be no forced conformity ever. We are a free people and must never forget the sacrifices made to obtain this freedom. Of course, educate, encourage, and conjole others to get vaccinated . A meal at a restaurant or a sports event is not worth handing over your liberty. Not to me, anyway.

[@albertsview8855]

Ivermectin does not carry any risk. Vaccines the long term risk is not determinated

[@kazparzyxzpenualt8111]

Well said. I'm with you, brother!

[@sarahwright6400]

I’m an FNP student. I had COVID a few months ago and I have not yet gotten the vaccine because I was under the impression that natural immunity is usually stronger than immunity gained through vaccinations. I definitely don’t mind getting the vaccine, I’m just not sure if it is going to be beneficial at all. Do you have any insight on this topic?

[@yowayde]

You have to speak with your doctor. I had corona in November and I spoke with my doc and she said that there's a lot of debate as to *when* to give the shot after having corona (3 months after being sick? Maybe more depending on the immune response) and what dosage. I personally know a man who who had corona last year and got the first shot recently and had such a severe reaction that his doctors forbade him from getting the second dose. Personally, I want to see more research in child bearing age/pregnant/lactating women before getting it (since I am all 3). My midwives assured me that it's safe, but also said that people are being monitored until '22. I think I'll wait for now.

[@alantasbler4581]

I'm not giving out medical advice, other than that you should talk to a doctor about it. My understanding is that vaccine immunity is considerably stronger than natural immunity from having it. But again, please don't take medical advice from a random stranger on the internet.

[@andreafalconiero9089]

​@@alantasbler4581 It seems unlikely to me that vaccine immunity would be better than natural immunity. The vaccines that have been developed are designed to cause the body to create antibodies matched to particular parts of the "spike protein" unique to the strain(s) of SARS-CoV2 that were widespread when those vaccines were developed. As the virus mutates and new strains emerge (something that has already happened several times), if those RNA mutations affect the structure of the spike protein sufficiently then immunity against those new strains will be lost. Vaccination will in that way drive evolution of the virus towards vaccine escape, since the mutations that affect the spike protein specifically will be the ones that succeed in finding large numbers of new hosts (vaccinated individuals without prior infection). On the other hand, with natural occurring infection, the body will train itself to build antibodies, T-cells, etc. that recognize/match the virus in a much more general way, with probably each human host creating unique antibodies matched against random parts of the surface the virus, rather than merely one particular protein on the "spike". If that's the case, it makes it much more difficult for the virus to escape detection and destruction by an immune system that's adapted to it by prior infection, since each human host with a prior infection is effectively a unique target, with its own specific antibody response that will key to different parts of the whole virus. In that situation, not only can the host potentially create several different antibodies matching different parts of the virus (rather than just one), but there will be no favourable selection _within_ the virus population for a specific mutation that affects the spike protein, since that sort of mutation is unlikely to be any more or less effective in finding susceptible hosts than mutations anywhere else. Therefore, from both an individual and population-wide (herd immunity) perspective, natural immunity should be superior to vaccine-derived immunity.

[@alantasbler4581]

@@andreafalconiero9089 It could be. Some natural immunities are better than the vaccine - the mumps I believe. Though the vaccine does have the advantage of not making you gravely ill and possibly killing you. So there's that. There's not really enough known at this point. I'd definitely take the vaccine even if I had prior Covid.

[@mcarleton]

One more pitfall for vaccine passports - data errors. I was scheduled to get my first dose on 3/2 but I was not on the list when I reached the site. They gave me my first dose anyway but they encouraged me to make a backup appointment for my second dose. When they dump the data from this site into the vaccine passport database, will my name be on the list? If it is not, will there be a way for me to prove I was vaccinated? Will I have to seek out another vaccination appointment and get the jab just to get my name added to the passport list?

[@TB-pu9kq]

Most likely if your one of the first wave people to get them.

[@mcarleton]

@@flagmichael I got my second shot today at the same site, and my name was not on the list again! I had called earlier in the day to check their list. They penciled me in on the bottom of the list and said there had been other errors like mine. They said I was not on the list for my backup appointment 1 hour later either.

[@archangeldo913]

Are they just borrowing the screenplay of “Contagion?”

[@christonks7147]

As a conservative I really appreciate the way you approach this topic. You don't disrespect any point of view. Thank you for what you do.

[@Nelle4ever]

I have two friends who have very serious long term illnesses who Can't take the vaccine because there immune system isn't up for it. (Obviously that's my understanding in layman's terms.) Also, in my state many chronic illnesses are included in the general public stage of vaccination and it could still be a couple of months before those people are fully vaccinated here. We've already treated them badly without adding a vaccine passport to the whole thing.

[@susandangelo3798]

I was with you (kind of) until you said all our energy should be spent on getting as many people vaccinated (WHO WANT IT) as possible. There are some of us (me) who just want to wait until there’s more data re the longer term possible health implications of a vaccine that is just approved for EUA and hasn’t undergone long-term trials. We are starting to learn about long Covid, but how can we be sure there is no “long” mRNA vax effect?

[@LenaFerrari]

Although the vaccines are doing a great job preventing the infection and especially severe cases, they are not 100%. I don't know if this is related to the new variants, but I know of quite a few people who ended up critical and even dying after getting both doses of the vaccine

[@stealcian74]

There is just no world where a vaccine passport is ok. The vaccine will be available to everyone at some point and for free. Why then at that point should vaccinated people care if people choose to not get it.

[@kidfunko4959]

I don't mind, if it is required I will save my money and not use locations requiring a vaccine passport.

[@bryangobonkers]

Soon their gonna be required to go anywhere. Especially with these new variants, there gonna try to make people take it out of fear.

[@jeffc6832]

What are your thoughts on how some states (MN for example) are opening up vaccinations to all adults 16 and over regardless of health conditions? I know some people in the priority groups who have been trying to get a vaccine appointment but have not been able to. Now starting tomorrow they are going to have to compete with the general public for vaccine. As a 40 year old obese man, I was due to be included in the next priority group...but now I will have to compete as well.

[@ambercuevas3643]

Good question. I live in MN and have wondered the same thing. My hope is that we have such an influx that you will get yours asap. Vaccine connector contacted one of my family members in her 40’s. Also, while I despise Facebook, check out mn vaccine hunters. That should help you. Good luck. Ignore the previous reply as this person is an anti vaxxer and trolled a ton of people on here. Hope they can block her somehow from future replies. Take care and maybe we’ll unknowingly pass each other at the great mn get together! Lol

[@ambercuevas3643]

Sorry jeff! It’s Minneapolis vaccine hunters (helping MN). Even if you don’t have Facebook, hop on just so you can get connected. I should add I got two family members vaccines this way. I’m a nurse so mine was provided earlier but I do think this is one of the best ways... especially if you are willing to drive.

[@nadogrl]

How about putting all of this “money and energy” into educating people to lose weight and fortify their immune systems? Dr. Faux-chi barely mentioned vitamin D.

[@TheHarmonicaBarge]

does anyone have good data on how much vaccine reduces transmission?? or i guess it's too early to know

[@Sylencer1982]

Note: You don't get in trouble for yelling, "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. That's a perfectly OK and legal thing to do...If you think there's a fire. What gets 'ya is performing an action with the intent to cause harm.

[@sue6164]

My concern is, what are the long term effects from the vaccine? It’s too new to even know. There not even FDA approved yet.

[@jamescole322]

And what about children, who have sacrificed a year of schooling and socialising for the vulnerable elderly, and can't be vaccinated!

[@sadiebodes]

so have you figured out how EVERYTHING has been politicized????

[@paulsmith1552]

2 weeks to slow the spread!

[@robertfoster347]

Very reasonable and understanding view point . What book or author do you recommend for digging more into the perspectives you talk about here?

[@gratefulone5317]

It’s amazing how someone speaking from the “center “ would not encourage people to take personal accountability for strengthening their immune system by eating healthy, exercising and getting some sun for Vitamin D. Many blessings to you all🙏❤️🙏❤️

[@johnscott8290]

Great discussion - very refreshing in these hyperpolarised times. You’re right, showing a bit of compassion for those whose view point you don’t necessarily agree with is the way forward. Excellent job ZDogg!

[@deeceepnw]

I have shared this with my attorney bro for his input (he loves you too and worked in Radiology before law school). My thoughts, (I’m fiscally conservative and socially more liberal so I usually fall in the middle somewhere) are reminiscent of Gattaca and being deemed invalid by governmental intrusion. I have enough intrusion in my life thank you. Proud introvert, soon to be Libertarian.

[@sep31489]

Can you provide evidence backed research that the vaccines are effective against covid 19? Another concern/hesitation for many in getting the vaccination is the adverse reactions such as neurological issues, clotting and bleeding issues. Can you speak to this and provide evidence on this?

[@GregDinAZ]

If everyone who wants the shot receives it, and as you say it seems effective, wouldn’t that pretty much negate the moral obligation of those who choose not to receive it? If one still feels vulnerable then they could continue to self-isolate. I don’t travel much or go to large events or even restaurants, so this isn’t a big deal, but I do go grocery shopping. Will there ever become a time when that won’t be allowed?

[@mcdee1313]

I guess another question should be, could a business require if they want to if they feel it would help them do more business? Example: I am an avid Cruiser. Most Cruise Lines are saying they will require this. It makes sense for a cruise line to want to do this as an infected person on a ship means lockdowns for all. Even Cruise lovers like myself would not go if I thought that were a possibility. So if a business wanted to, could they require a vaccine to enter their business? If they do, then how do we handle proof as the pieces of paper given out are hardly appropriate for such a task

[@AMarie_USA]

Don't worry because they will start with a card or paper, and then graduate to a chip for convenience and 'cleanliness'. They have it all planned out. mmhm.

[@timmytimay602]

Guarantee no politician will need a "passport" RULES FOR THEE AND NOT FOR ME

[@deathfrog3359]

So if most are vaccinated the "hold outs" are no risk to them only to themselves. If most are vaccinated why would you need a passport why not individual liberty and responsibility?

[@cathychastain-shepherd3939]

We're open in Georgia, have been for quite a while. Enough all ready.

[@patriciagarrett4243]

I am in my mid 70s, my friend has just turned 60. I was tested and am negative. My friend was tested and was positive (asymptomatic) and lives with a young adult child who is negative. My neighbor and I have been in close contact. I am still walking around, so is my neighbor and so is her adult child. I only wear a mask when ordering food or entering a business...I have chronic sinus so am often nasally congested. This makes me short of breath...masking compromises my breathing. I have "uncontrolled" hypertension...I take alot of meds daily. My life is in more danger from my hypertension than Covid19. I just want to be able to meet a friend for lunch and sit in a restaurant...indoors, not freezing my butt off trying to eat and talk and having my food get cold or the waiter/waitress hiding in the kitchen because they're freezing. That's my last experience eating at a local restaurant here in California. But most of all, I am really tired of people giving me a wide berth as though I was "Typhoid Mary." I don't mask up outside. Walking to my car is difficult. I live in a 2nd story walk up and after lockdown and the stairs outside my door being closed off since the lockdown a year ago due to deterioration and it not be fixed due to Covid19...a lie because the street and area I live on is undergoing massive renovation...at least half a dozen old apartment buildings have been demolished and rebuilt. Replacing a stairway is child's play by comparison and could have been done in less than a month. I AM TIRED OF THE LIES! That's a worse pandemic than Covid19.

[@robertschrader]

The main problem with vaccine passports, when it comes to international travel, is that very few countries have indicated they would even accept one as a waiver for their entry bans. I wish people talked more about the halt of mobility and the crisis it’s soon going to cause.

[@campion7038]

Soon? It's here. A bonfire of the paper money vanities. Housing prices up 30% around the world in six months. The lying liars can't cover up reality forever, although they will absolutely give it everything they've got. You can't get wood to build a house in my country.

[@kevink6265]

Its good to hear different povs. My biggest concern is the slippery slope. Once you start requiring people to expose their healthcare choices or conditions where does it stop? Good luck getting a job if you aren't vaccinated, have diabetes, or heart disease, etc...There is a reason we have HIPPA.

[@sophieoshaughnessy9469]

Since you have been one of the few that makes mention of the importance of volume of innoculate causing infection, could you confirm that even IF someone who is vaccinated infects another, severity of disease would be much reduced, if any. I think we need to think more about getting sick from CoVid VERSUS simply covid seroconversion or mild illness. That would help with Alt-middle thinking about masks and protecting others.

[@suras8984]

The numbers in Canada are that 98% are getting it mild and 2% are in critical condition according to worldometers. So most people get it mild anyway without being vaccinated.

[@anthonycunningham4598]

What about those of us who have survived the Covid infection? Are we required to receive the vaccine anyway?

[@kkitzhaber]

LOL. "That's OK. I'll just block ya, give me a little rush of dopamine." That's hilarious, but true.

[@goatsandmagicandmaybe3peop355]

What about people who can't be vaccinated? Is it right to ban them from life events?

[@jerseytony1]

Crazy world need some humor - One Mouse asked the other Mouse " Are you taking the Covid Vaccine ? "....The Mouse responded and said " Do you think i'm Stupid, they're still testing them out on Humans "

[@DiegoAbranReyes]

If the passport is only accessible by cellphone, my dad is going to be pissed. He hasn't owned a cellphone. Ever

[@DiegoAbranReyes]

Good cause he hates technology lol

[@philhoskins6107]

A slippery slope

[@SuperSimpleComedy]

What a gift ZDogg is! Calmness, and patience, such a refreshing perspective 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@agusteschmidt9686]

I live in Canada, our cases, hospitalizations are going up, but not at the rate they were in December, our ICUs are all coping, and death rate is remaining steady. So there is a third wave, but it's much smaller than in December and January when we had to open whole covid units in our hospital. Hopefully we can all breathe a sigh of relief about that and hug our loved ones and now move on with our lives because the crisis (the worst of it) is over. We have hospitals and if you're sick, our healthcare system is available to help you. We even have new treatments IN the hospitals for covid patients. Where is the problem if people do or don't get vaccinated anymore?? Whether people get vaccinated should be up to them without the coercion of the benefits of a vaccine passport weighing on their mind.

[@paulo7200]

How would a vax passport interface with HIPPA? People are generally not required to disclose medical information to private third parties. Could I start a nightclub only open to patrons who tested negative for HIV at my lab?

[@thor9563]

A 'Nuovo' virus requires 'Nuovo' approaches to protecting the public. Laws are (really) not etched in stone. We have compooters now that can change laws in a snap. Hippa schmippa.

[@mindyzimmerman6455]

What about people who survived their covid illness ( and have a positive test results) and are not wanting at this time to get the vaccine, maybe later after it truly has been approved

[@richardmoss5934]

For something that has no long-term data as to its safety it amazes me that there are those who want to make it mandatory.

[@kevinhartwell3568]

Guess it's not a conspiracy theory after all

[@robertogarcia5282]

Hey Have you ever done a video on Novavax vaccine. I want to know about your thoughts about it